Proposed rail customer to reopen abandoned rail line - East Longmeadow, MA - 5/2023
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- A new planned rail customer will locate at the end of the currently out of use Armory Branch line in East Longmeadow, MA and reactivate the line for their shipments. The line is intact but needs rehabilitation right up the the CT/MA state line where this customer plans to locate on the MA side. The customer will be a transfer station and will ship out construction and demolition debris material for disposal out of state. Central New England Railroad will serve the facility once both the line and transfer station are complete. This video focuses on the customer and facility itself as far as its location as well as some examples of what the building will look like. For more information about the line restoration itself click below:
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East Longmeadow, MA
5/2023
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Great update.🛤
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More positive news , thanks for the update 😀 👍
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That would be excellent!!! Thanks for the heads up!
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Awesome!!!!!! Great to see.
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It is awesome to see the old railroad lines coming back to life in the future.
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Good luck
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Great news. I grew up a few miles from here and saw a lot of business come and go since the 1950s. Much of it didn't go to trucks - it shut down or moved away.
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Right on, Bill. I know that we know the owner of the new CNE, and if he thinks he can make a go of it, he can. O'd love to see the entire back in and active....
It’s always good to see abandoned, or about to be abandoned, rail lines being restored.
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Is this complete today?
So nice to see re-activations. Down here in FL not so much.
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I hope everything works out. It is always great to see a railroad get back business. Thanks for sharing.
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I support bringing back the railroads for various reasons. A major one is because in my lifetime, gasoline and diesel prices have exceeded $4.00 and $5.00 per gallon three times. Freight trains have a higher hauling capacity than automobiles and trucks.
I believe for the long haul transports railroads have their application and places to go just that. I also support retaining the truck industry for medium and short distance transports. The key is to have a balance of the two.
If the line is extending all the way into East Longmeadow, why not just connect the line to the CSOR line to the west? It's only a few miles away.
That is completely unnecessary and cost prohibitive. The line could be reconnected to the B&A in the future though.
As someone who still lives in Connecticut, I can see freight customers using this line. The state is making the effort to bring businesses in.
However, any support to reactivate this line may face opposition from truckers who don't want to see their jobs or businesses in jeopardy.
The truckers are needed, however, when they rebuild 84, the railroads will need to help out. I'd love to see commuter rail from Waterbury to Hartford, east to Vernon and Willimantic.The state owns the right of way, so P&W, NEC and CSO could use it for freight (Hartford -Willimantic).
I hope Longmeadow will restore rail to the junction on the B&A.
@@AidenSexsmith I agree. Trucks are needed too. The key is having the right balance of the two. I'd like to see open properties nextdoor to these rail lines be converted to mini intermodal processing yards where commerce and freight can be off loaded to trucks. This way truckers don't have to be far from home and have more labor rights via contracts or unions, and that highways will be relieved of some congestion.
I'd also like to see Hartford union station be rebuilt or finished to accommodate two tracks. The general infrastructure is already there. This will eliminate the bottle neck there.
I am not sure that either the railroad or 84 should be put underground (as some plans call for). The reason is because both the NYC subway east side expansion and Boston's Big Dig prove that putting anything underground takes too much time and money. It will be an inconvenience and traffic jam when the highway above Hartford union station is rebuilt, but the alternative is to go through another Big Dig like Boston did.
@@grommit700 - I think the whole underground rebuild idea is a boondoggle. As you say, restore the second track through Hartford and allow the area around the station to redevelop. Re: Waterbury Hartford commuting, great idea but the shortest line through Newington has been usurped by the busway, and while I can see commuter rail going to Mancherster (I rode a demonstration special on that line 45 years ago), to get it to Vernon would involve removing a popular rail trail. You can hear the Rails-to-Trails lobby (because that's what they really are) howling from here.
@@countrypaul yeah rails to trails is very popular in Connecticut. I know part of the line from Hartford to Vernon is legitimately used by freight. I don't see a passenger train going back that route.
I'm surprised they are fixing up the like that goes off of that up to East Long Meadow, Massachusetts. Maybe there is incoming business that can reuse those rails again. I almost wonder if having a trolley would be a good idea because to put a full locomotive into service requires a lot of work (I presume). Trolleys would be a fraction of the price to operate, but the main question remains. Is there enough demand to put any passenger or freight service back on to those lines?
Maybe they can get some more new customers along this route once the track is finished
I hope so. There was talk about a bio diesel company interested.
How fitting, showing the benefits of inside loading while raining. Thank you.
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I sure hope this happens!!
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Open some jobs up hopefully and bring some revenue too.
In general though, a railroad can be used by both freight and passenger service. If that's how this nation was created and operated by 100 years ago, then I don't see why there so much resistance to bring this back.
Connecticut also has become sketchy with winter weather. It's become very inconsistent. Freezing rain and troublesome snow are disaster recipes for all road vehicles. That's what I like about trains. A little ice and little snow won't necessarily derail a multi ton locomotive.
I believe once residents try out passenger service on CT rail, they will appreciate railroads more. I know I do.
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The line is officially out of service, not abandoned, and the upper end, operated by the Central New England, is in very good shape, having recently been rebuilt.
Thanks for watching. The north end is still being rebuilt and isn’t anywhere near finished.
Cool video. I wonder if the line could be restored further if any more new customers come in?
I suppose it could be but it would be expensive.
They are restoration the track For CSX OR mass Coastal? WE ARE soooo Jealous....In Washington state They never Do this ....They truck things in and tear tracks up for Bike trails...Instead a $3100 a mile Grants for a Railway/bike paths...very sad....How cities thick ...Taxes....When cities should get income from production of a product??$$$$%
@@bradfordthompson8326 Read the description
@@bradfordthompson8326 It is for the Central New England Railroad, a short line.
Will this go all the way to Hfd Ct
It already does. This line runs south through So. Windsor. It runs parallel to Rte 5 into East Hartford, and crosses the Connecticut River into Hartford north of Rte 84.
@@stevenallen9613 Thanks so it go all the way north? That will be nice.
@@theodorejones6549 At one time the line went all the way through East Longmeadow and Springfield and connected with the old Boston and Albany line, east of the Springfield train station. The old B&A line is now operated by CSX. As for the former Armory Line, it won't gu o much further than where they discussed in the video. The remainder of the line has been totally ripped up and a portion of that line on East Longmeadow is a walking/bike trail. It's going to be nice to see the line extending passed Scitco to East Longmeadow.
I've been watching this track for about 3 years now and noticed that there are stockpiles of concrete ties further south and a short section about 3 miles to the south where they have been installed. It appears that there has been other minor rehabs along this line. I'm in Albuquerque, NM and live remotely through satellite views and, now your video.
Abandoned railroad line being restored - CNZR Armory Branch - May 2023 Update
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IIRC the concrete ties were purchased at a deep discount from Amtrak or their supplier when batches of concrete ties for the Shoreline electrification and Acela project, failed quality tests. Good for low speed freight, but not for high speed passenger trains.
@@steves2694 Thanks, Steve. It is good to know that sometimes leftovers can contribute to a decent goulash. Beautiful countryside - quite unlike here.
Nice! I always enjoy and glad to see old lines come back to life!
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Instead of the subtitles, you could actually do a voiceover. Not everyone can read that fast, and just listening to your voice would be much more pleasant.
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No groundbreaking one year later? No rail rehab either-not a good sign…
Some more work was done on the track, see my update from a couple weeks ago.
@@SouthCoastRailVideos I did and respectfully nothing has been added or rehabbed in at least two years. Now I read that the Armory is basically on the auction block from the State of Ct.
While it is on the auction block now there has been some (minimal) work over the past 2 years. It’s too bad it hasn’t been anything more substantial.
The scantic or armory line has been rebuilding for, it seems, 10 plus years, maybe more. It was one of the five rail lines built to serve the armory in springfield. Hartford was/is the end of the navigable river, so the rest of the journey for guns or parts was by land. (Geo Washington's idea, brit navy couldnt be used to take our guns) After the Armory was closed in 68 the death knell for the armory line rang. But industries are returning and rail usage is way higher than in last few decades.
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I live in enfield and i jist dont see this line ever coming back to life. Especially for 1 customer. The rehab has been going on for years
As long as the customer gets permitted it will happen
@South Coast Rail Videos do you live in Enfield?? Have you been a witness as to how long this line has been inactive?? Regardless of what's been going on for like the past 15-20 years of rehab I highly doubt freight trains will roll on it again
@@Prostyle0079 I don't have to live there to understand what is going on.
@South Coast Rail Videos then you should know from someone that lives in Enfield and has seen no progress in the 20 years since this rehab project has been going on. One customer in Longmeadow won't justify trains returning. The tracks are also in extremely poor conditions. I'm a rail fan as well as a modeler and I'm being very realistic
@@Prostyle0079 Cool
Yeah I think it all needs to be replaced.
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New rail, ties, ballast, bridge repair, crossing gates. A lot of work for low priority, one way haulage. Will CNZR interchange with CSOR in Hartford? If so, why not build along the Springfield line and have CSOR handle it first?
Wow...maybe the Armory will be rebuilt since Amtrak would love freight off their line. I hope more business for the CNEZ will come!
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CSOR freight on Amtrak's Springfield Line benefits from an interchange with CSX in West Springfield. This proposal doesn't include the CSX connection.