Thank YOU! To his defense, and to others' caught in the same paradigm, he's going with what he knows and what he's been trained and licensed to do. I'd rather fire the whole system, frankly!! Thanks so much for watching and commenting. 🧡
OMG I am a triple negative breast cancer patient currently 3 years since conventional treatment. I am genetically tested every 6 months to detect any reoccurrence in 20+ categories. Your statement about your providers being your employees was A viewpoint I have had now for several years after advocating for my Dads care, who has since past. Your thoughts about alternative care are the road I would next take if a reoccurrence should occur. THANk YOU for posting this video.
Such a powerful differentiation! I'm so glad my story resonated in some way with you, and absolutely encourage seeking the panoramic view at any stage... cancer or none. Wishing you continued health! 🧡
Hi! Maggie Jones here. Speaking for myself, I was diagnosed with uncurable, inoperable, terminal stage 4 lung cancer in 2018 and was given a prognosis of 6-8 months WITH palliative chemo and radiation. Like Bree, these traditional treatments were never meant to cure me, only to ease my pain and extend my life for a few months. Similarly, no diet can cure cancer, but therapeutic ketosis has been shown to increase the efficacy of conventional treatments like chemo and radiation. In my case, it's been over 5 years and, while I'll never be "cured", I'm so grateful for every extra day.
Great question... and the answer, I don't! What I do know is that the combination of all the protocols I follow (plant-based/vegan/organic, high-density nutrition, committed exercise, stress reduction, environmental toxin awareness/mitigation, mindset/spiritual practice, fasting, var. other metabolic therapies) IS working. I don't find it necessary to understand at a micro level what's effective, as the integrative approach of as many modalities as possible is, I and many believe and see in the research, crucial in attending to cancer's many metabolic pathways. I hope my answer helps!
I don't understand one part - if she went full Vegan, it is very unlikely she was in Ketosis, her GKI must have been pretty high. Am I getting this wrong? In any case - great inspiration! I wish her health and happiness.
Hi Neal! It's very much possible to achieve a low GKI and deep state for ketosis using a plant-based diet. It's actually the way of eating I (Maggie) used during my year of healing. You can learn more from my blog cancerv.me/2020/04/16/what-to-eat-on-a-functional-therapeutic-ketogenic-diet/ - I even have a meal plan for others' whose doctors recommend this diet. More resources include meatfreeketo.com/about-me/ from my friend Liz who wrote the book on Vegan Keto and www.reddit.com/r/veganketo/ Best of luck!
Great question! (my apologies for not responding sooner) I've found thus far that reaching ketosis isn't crucial for my particular presentation of MBC, instead focusing on insulin sensitivity as one the many markers I follow. It's a little like low-carb vegan, and I continue to have great success with it. A great opportunity to speak to the necessity for finding what works for your particular cancer, your body... all and each are different. Also crucial to remain open and resilient to change; if regrowth happens, try a different direction. I may need to utilize ketosis at some point, and remain informed and open to do so. Thanks for the great comment!
@@sabrinacapelletti6755 Hi Sabrina! Sorry for the late reply!! I work with both an integrative oncologist and nutritionist who have customized my nutritional protocols with me and in consideration of my particular cancer markers. As mentioned elsewhere in these threads, cancer is a HIGHLY personal disease, necessitating a completely unique approach for each and every patient. It's one of the biggest shortcomings of conventional therapies, the one-size-fits-all approach. The more one can know about their own biology, the more targeted the treatment can be.
Thank you, Arlene - I appreciate your watching! My goal here is to share what's possible, as well as to encourage anyone watching to plot their own course. Yours in health and healing 🧡
Hi thank you for your testimony. After your first diagnosis HER2 - ER + did you undergo standard of care radiation Chemo or endocrine therapy hormone blockers ? Did you have a masectomy or lumpectomy. Thanks !
I had a bi-lateral mastectomy after my first diagnosis. I was stage 1 at that point, neither chemo nor radiation were necessary. I was put on a five year course of Tamoxifen, which I took for 2 years. Because I had the lowest oncotype scoring, I was ok'd by my oncologist at the time to cease endocrine therapy so I could start a family. I hope this helps... please don't hesitate to ask more questions, I'm always happy to answer!
So your first bout with BC was stage 1 and then it came back as stage 4??? Had you changed your diet after the stage 1 and gone keto no low sugar ? Just curious. Do you know if your hormones were balanced after the stage 1 diagnosis. I would have. Thought after becoming pregnant that would have helped you.
@@mmppa1213 Correct, with seven years in between diagnoses. I was never counseled to check hormone levels post-mastectomy, as it wasn’t within conventional medical protocols. I did not follow any metabolic therapies until after my stage iv diagnosis, knowing absolutely nothing about it until beginning my own research. I listened exclusively to my conventional oncologists up until that point. I had my son in 2018, two years before my 2nd diagnosis. My metastases were already present at that point, though obviously unknown to me at the time. Important to clarify here, I have removed all sugar, but also alcohol, processed foods and most meat from my diet (specific fish only and occasionally), and do not follow a keto protocol. I’ve found a combination nutrient rich/low glycemic diet works best for me, my body and my healing, along with several other metabolic therapeutics I’ve incorporated.
I fully understand and share your fury! It is unethical that pharmaceutical industries focus on money making and not on healing. Society needs to improve and limit what these companies do.
Thanks so much for your comment here--our for-profit health care system complicates every potential and current treatment option. Just in this last year, Pfizer has changed drastically their financial assistance program because of the inflation reduction act, making it impossible for innumerable women to go on, and stay on, a potentially effective treatment. It's truly tragic.
I have the same breast cancer ER/PR positive stage 2.. I was diagnosed 2022.. I am terrified of recurrence. Thank you for sharing. I am learning so much from what we eat to the dishes, laundry soap, face products, etc.. we have so many toxins out here. 💖
It's true that we only find when we look! True also though, that it also means that there are so many paths, adjustments, opportunities for change. There are nearly infinite ways to promote continued healing, wishing you all the best as you make your own discoveries. 🧡
When I brought up some of the concerns I had with treatment and quality of life my oncologist basically said her only concern was to treat the cancer. I also mentioned some of the "alternative" things I was do as well and she didn't really care. I found it so incredibly annoying that the only things they want to do is cut it out, poison it and burn it. Then put you on a drug for 5-10 years. I don't understand why there can't be more integrative approaches to cancer.
So sorry to hear. Many oncologists seem to be treating people like a factory conveyor belt method these days, with little personalized care. Quality of life is clearly a top priority.
So much of the reluctance to consider integrative and complementary therapies is due to the extreme limitations of medical liability for conventional physicians here in the US. It's not entirely their fault, but it sends all the wrong messages to their patients. There are options, but also, R&D on those options is incredibly time consuming and prohibitively expensive. It's sadly up to the patient to do their own research.
As I'm not a clinician, I don't make recommendations on any particular supplements or other protocols. What I can encourage however, is finding an integrative physician to assist in making those recommendations based specifically on your (or for whom you're inquiring) biological markers. I've undergone extensive testing to assess supplementation needs, and my protocol is different than would be anyone else's. Every body is different, every cancer is different, every integrative treatment approach is different. Also, supplements aren't well regulated, as we all know, so getting clinical guidance is super crucial. Helpful I hope!
Thank you so much Bree for having tbt courage and the confidence to share you story so generously 😊 This was inspiring, optimistic and encouraging Wishing you every future happiness and optimal health ☺️
@@breestilwell7371I’ve just recently been diagnosed with HPV+ throat cancer and really am concerned about the radiation treatment. How can I find out more about your regimen? Not to follow it exactly but to learn about options.
And thank you for your kind comment! I appreciate your taking the time to watch and listen... the more we can talk about these things in broader contexts, the more possibilities we can find together. 🧡
Salmon, healthy fruits and vegetables. I have Cancer too. I stopped eating fried foods, sugary drinks. Instead of Canola oil I use coconut oil. I use an air fryer now instead of frying in lots of oil. I drink Vegetable juices and protein shakes instead of soda. May not cure Cancer but hope that it helps since I stopped the fattening unhealthy things. If this doesn't work then know idea what to do.
Cancer is a deeply complex disease, with so many influencing factors to consider---diet and nutrition play a huge role! Sounds like you're making some wonderful and helpful changes... don't stop learning! WIshing you health and healing. 🧡
40 seems to be the age when everything goes wrong in the body. Kind of makes sense I guess since back in the stone age humans rarely lived longer than that.
My sister always said. When you turn 40, for the most part we finally get things straight in our lives just in time for our bodies to fall apart... so true lol
Thanks for your comment and perspective, Amanda. I've mentioned elsewhere in the discussions here, but will do so here also. I do not follow a strict vegan diet, nor have I spoken about following a keto protocol. Because of the markers and mechanics of my particular cancer, as well as those presenting on regular metabolic and terrain panels, I follow a nutrient-dense, plant-based diet, occasionally including organic eggs and oil-rich fish. I monitor my insulin reactivity twice per year to assure my levels remain stable. It works for me, as would something entirely different for someone else. The point here is always to find what works for YOUR body, YOUR health and healing, and in partnership with a comprehensive team of medical professionals.
The problem with "vegan" is that it doesn't instruct the quality or nutrients of what you are eating. I.e. Organic sugar is vegan, but not very healthy. As long as people understand there is more to putting a diet together than plant vs. animal. We like solid fat sources like avocados, and olive oil.
I heard from several sources that around 85% of vegans quit in 5 years or less most because of health issues. Very few last to 10 or 15 years. If you are doing well, then great, more power to you, but please don't advise others to follow in your foot steps, because vegan will hurt most people.
Well, there's not clinical research showing vegan diets are harmful. So, emphasis of caution regarding that. I think the idea is to show that some people can eat this way. Maggie Jones became cancer free on a mostly vegan diet (eggs, some butter). Patients need to look at what works for them. And there are so many ways to be ketogenic nothing should be off limits.
For many cancer thrivers they try and enjoy eating some less keto friendly foods in moderation after being strict for so long. It is a choice for sure. I see my wife Maggie Jones eat apples or cantaloupe every once in a while, but at this point the goal isn't strict ketosis. I think it just depends on where individuals are in their journey and how strict they want to be. For some patients still dealing with cancer, moving along the track to keto could be keto-like. It can be a very hard diet for some. We certainly don't encourage (or believe) that people who've used keto to help with their cancer just stop keto. And a glass of champagne at a birthday party or a little fruit is simply living. And close enough to keto a Thriver can jump right back in quickly if necessary.
Hi Katie - I'm not sure how I missed your comment. My apologies for the late reply! An important clarification: I was following a 'keto-like' diet in-between cancer diagnoses, primarily for post-pregnancy weight loss. I was unaware at the time that my cancer had metastasized, and so wasn't in any way attempting to treat my cancer via keto protocols. You're right about the euphemism though--I was completely ignorant to the damage I was doing at the time, particularly with my alcohol intake. With the assistance my integrative oncologist and team, we've determined a nutrient-dense, plant-based diet (including occasional eggs and fish) is the right combination for both my metabolic terrain and my cancer. I know most folks equate metabolic therapies exclusively with keto, but there are myriad ways to maximize your metabolic health, and we're learning more all the time. It's truly and deeply exciting.
OMG the gaslighting! I would have fired that bastard on the spot. You are SO brave. Thank You!
Thank YOU! To his defense, and to others' caught in the same paradigm, he's going with what he knows and what he's been trained and licensed to do. I'd rather fire the whole system, frankly!! Thanks so much for watching and commenting. 🧡
OMG I am a triple negative breast cancer patient currently 3 years since conventional treatment. I am genetically tested every 6 months to detect any reoccurrence in 20+ categories.
Your statement about your providers being your employees was A viewpoint I have had now for several years after advocating for my Dads care, who has since past.
Your thoughts about alternative care are the road I would next take if a reoccurrence should occur. THANk YOU for posting this video.
Such a powerful differentiation! I'm so glad my story resonated in some way with you, and absolutely encourage seeking the panoramic view at any stage... cancer or none. Wishing you continued health! 🧡
Thank you for sharing, powerful testimony.
It's my honor and pleasure. Thank you for watching!
nice calm presentation- Appreciated
Thank you, Nicole! 🧡
If you are on cancer medications how do you know its your diet that is helping? And not just the pills?
Serious question.
Hi! Maggie Jones here. Speaking for myself, I was diagnosed with uncurable, inoperable, terminal stage 4 lung cancer in 2018 and was given a prognosis of 6-8 months WITH palliative chemo and radiation. Like Bree, these traditional treatments were never meant to cure me, only to ease my pain and extend my life for a few months. Similarly, no diet can cure cancer, but therapeutic ketosis has been shown to increase the efficacy of conventional treatments like chemo and radiation. In my case, it's been over 5 years and, while I'll never be "cured", I'm so grateful for every extra day.
@@CANCEREVOLUTIONdoc ty for your reply
Great question... and the answer, I don't! What I do know is that the combination of all the protocols I follow (plant-based/vegan/organic, high-density nutrition, committed exercise, stress reduction, environmental toxin awareness/mitigation, mindset/spiritual practice, fasting, var. other metabolic therapies) IS working. I don't find it necessary to understand at a micro level what's effective, as the integrative approach of as many modalities as possible is, I and many believe and see in the research, crucial in attending to cancer's many metabolic pathways. I hope my answer helps!
I don't understand one part - if she went full Vegan, it is very unlikely she was in Ketosis, her GKI must have been pretty high. Am I getting this wrong?
In any case - great inspiration! I wish her health and happiness.
Hi Neal! It's very much possible to achieve a low GKI and deep state for ketosis using a plant-based diet. It's actually the way of eating I (Maggie) used during my year of healing. You can learn more from my blog cancerv.me/2020/04/16/what-to-eat-on-a-functional-therapeutic-ketogenic-diet/ - I even have a meal plan for others' whose doctors recommend this diet. More resources include meatfreeketo.com/about-me/ from my friend Liz who wrote the book on Vegan Keto and www.reddit.com/r/veganketo/ Best of luck!
Great question! (my apologies for not responding sooner) I've found thus far that reaching ketosis isn't crucial for my particular presentation of MBC, instead focusing on insulin sensitivity as one the many markers I follow. It's a little like low-carb vegan, and I continue to have great success with it. A great opportunity to speak to the necessity for finding what works for your particular cancer, your body... all and each are different. Also crucial to remain open and resilient to change; if regrowth happens, try a different direction. I may need to utilize ketosis at some point, and remain informed and open to do so.
Thanks for the great comment!
Dear Bree how did you know that focusing on insuline was Better?
@@sabrinacapelletti6755 Hi Sabrina! Sorry for the late reply!! I work with both an integrative oncologist and nutritionist who have customized my nutritional protocols with me and in consideration of my particular cancer markers. As mentioned elsewhere in these threads, cancer is a HIGHLY personal disease, necessitating a completely unique approach for each and every patient. It's one of the biggest shortcomings of conventional therapies, the one-size-fits-all approach. The more one can know about their own biology, the more targeted the treatment can be.
Bree your attitude, perspective and actions are inspiring and amazing. Thank you for yout wisdom and strength.
Thank you, Arlene - I appreciate your watching! My goal here is to share what's possible, as well as to encourage anyone watching to plot their own course. Yours in health and healing 🧡
Hi thank you for your testimony. After your first diagnosis HER2 - ER + did you undergo standard of care radiation Chemo or endocrine therapy hormone blockers ? Did you have a masectomy or lumpectomy. Thanks !
I had a bi-lateral mastectomy after my first diagnosis. I was stage 1 at that point, neither chemo nor radiation were necessary. I was put on a five year course of Tamoxifen, which I took for 2 years. Because I had the lowest oncotype scoring, I was ok'd by my oncologist at the time to cease endocrine therapy so I could start a family. I hope this helps... please don't hesitate to ask more questions, I'm always happy to answer!
So your first bout with BC was stage 1 and then it came back as stage 4??? Had you changed your diet after the stage 1 and gone keto no low sugar ? Just curious. Do you know if your hormones were balanced after the stage 1 diagnosis. I would have. Thought after becoming pregnant that would have helped you.
@@mmppa1213 Correct, with seven years in between diagnoses. I was never counseled to check hormone levels post-mastectomy, as it wasn’t within conventional medical protocols. I did not follow any metabolic therapies until after my stage iv diagnosis, knowing absolutely nothing about it until beginning my own research. I listened exclusively to my conventional oncologists up until that point.
I had my son in 2018, two years before my 2nd diagnosis. My metastases were already present at that point, though obviously unknown to me at the time.
Important to clarify here, I have removed all sugar, but also alcohol, processed foods and most meat from my diet (specific fish only and occasionally), and do not follow a keto protocol. I’ve found a combination nutrient rich/low glycemic diet works best for me, my body and my healing, along with several other metabolic therapeutics I’ve incorporated.
I fully understand and share your fury! It is unethical that pharmaceutical industries focus on money making and not on healing. Society needs to improve and limit what these companies do.
Thanks so much for your comment here--our for-profit health care system complicates every potential and current treatment option. Just in this last year, Pfizer has changed drastically their financial assistance program because of the inflation reduction act, making it impossible for innumerable women to go on, and stay on, a potentially effective treatment. It's truly tragic.
I have the same breast cancer ER/PR positive stage 2.. I was diagnosed 2022.. I am terrified of recurrence. Thank you for sharing. I am learning so much from what we eat to the dishes, laundry soap, face products, etc.. we have so many toxins out here. 💖
It's true that we only find when we look! True also though, that it also means that there are so many paths, adjustments, opportunities for change. There are nearly infinite ways to promote continued healing, wishing you all the best as you make your own discoveries. 🧡
Same!! It's almost like a full time job just trying to get rid of harmful chemicals and toxins in your life.
When I brought up some of the concerns I had with treatment and quality of life my oncologist basically said her only concern was to treat the cancer. I also mentioned some of the "alternative" things I was do as well and she didn't really care. I found it so incredibly annoying that the only things they want to do is cut it out, poison it and burn it. Then put you on a drug for 5-10 years. I don't understand why there can't be more integrative approaches to cancer.
So sorry to hear. Many oncologists seem to be treating people like a factory conveyor belt method these days, with little personalized care. Quality of life is clearly a top priority.
So much of the reluctance to consider integrative and complementary therapies is due to the extreme limitations of medical liability for conventional physicians here in the US. It's not entirely their fault, but it sends all the wrong messages to their patients. There are options, but also, R&D on those options is incredibly time consuming and prohibitively expensive. It's sadly up to the patient to do their own research.
Can you say any supplements that you think helped you?
I will ask her. Here is Bree's contact page. www.breestilwellcoaching.com/contact
As I'm not a clinician, I don't make recommendations on any particular supplements or other protocols. What I can encourage however, is finding an integrative physician to assist in making those recommendations based specifically on your (or for whom you're inquiring) biological markers. I've undergone extensive testing to assess supplementation needs, and my protocol is different than would be anyone else's. Every body is different, every cancer is different, every integrative treatment approach is different. Also, supplements aren't well regulated, as we all know, so getting clinical guidance is super crucial. Helpful I hope!
Thank you so much Bree for having tbt courage and the confidence to share you story so generously 😊
This was inspiring, optimistic and encouraging
Wishing you every future happiness and optimal health ☺️
Thank you so much, and so glad you found my story helpful in any way. Wishing you the very same! 🧡
@@breestilwell7371I’ve just recently been diagnosed with HPV+ throat cancer and really am concerned about the radiation treatment. How can I find out more about your regimen? Not to follow it exactly but to learn about options.
POWERFUL THANK YOU
Thank you, Gloria! 🧡
Thank you Bree for your powerful and insightful message that so many people need to hear.
And thank you for your kind comment! I appreciate your taking the time to watch and listen... the more we can talk about these things in broader contexts, the more possibilities we can find together. 🧡
How are you now Bree??
Love this testimony! So encouraging! ❤
I'm so glad, Sonia - thank you for spending the time to watch!
Salmon, healthy fruits and vegetables. I have Cancer too. I stopped eating fried foods, sugary drinks. Instead of Canola oil I use coconut oil. I use an air fryer now instead of frying in lots of oil. I drink Vegetable juices and protein shakes instead of soda. May not cure Cancer but hope that it helps since I stopped the fattening unhealthy things. If this doesn't work then know idea what to do.
Cancer is a deeply complex disease, with so many influencing factors to consider---diet and nutrition play a huge role! Sounds like you're making some wonderful and helpful changes... don't stop learning! WIshing you health and healing. 🧡
Air fryers are toxictoo.
Curious what you’re doing to heal on the emotional (“energetic”) level?
Wow, that's amazing
2:50 all my doctors told diet won't help... I immediately knew they were lying or stupid..
They just don't know. The role of diet in cancer and how helpful it could be is still emerging. And diet is really undervalued in medicine.
They're simply not trained in nutrition. As in, not a single course in a decade of education and training. It's changing, but too slowly!
She was not on a keto diet before if she was taking sugar and alcohol. There are more carbs in a plant based diet.
She looks really well now. Well done, whatever works for you!!
@@amandamann2946 Thank you! Clean scans again just months ago, so will be continuing on my current protocols for sure. :)
40 seems to be the age when everything goes wrong in the body. Kind of makes sense I guess since back in the stone age humans rarely lived longer than that.
My sister always said. When you turn 40, for the most part we finally get things straight in our lives just in time for our bodies to fall apart... so true lol
Just turned 50! Scans clear, going strong, healthier than at 40 honestly.
I favour keto, but a reasonable proportion of folks do well with the vegan. It does remove processed food and reduce weight.
Thanks for your comment and perspective, Amanda. I've mentioned elsewhere in the discussions here, but will do so here also. I do not follow a strict vegan diet, nor have I spoken about following a keto protocol. Because of the markers and mechanics of my particular cancer, as well as those presenting on regular metabolic and terrain panels, I follow a nutrient-dense, plant-based diet, occasionally including organic eggs and oil-rich fish. I monitor my insulin reactivity twice per year to assure my levels remain stable. It works for me, as would something entirely different for someone else.
The point here is always to find what works for YOUR body, YOUR health and healing, and in partnership with a comprehensive team of medical professionals.
This sounds a lot like Maggie's diet.
The problem with "vegan" is that it doesn't instruct the quality or nutrients of what you are eating. I.e. Organic sugar is vegan, but not very healthy. As long as people understand there is more to putting a diet together than plant vs. animal. We like solid fat sources like avocados, and olive oil.
RESPECT
I heard from several sources that around 85% of vegans quit in 5 years or less most because of health issues. Very few last to 10 or 15 years. If you are doing well, then great, more power to you, but please don't advise others to follow in your foot steps, because vegan will hurt most people.
I was vegan for 25 years and got cancer.. organic etc .now I'm doing vegan keto with fish and eggs and some meat...
@@mariejones7136 Good for you. Wishing you the best.
Well, there's not clinical research showing vegan diets are harmful. So, emphasis of caution regarding that. I think the idea is to show that some people can eat this way. Maggie Jones became cancer free on a mostly vegan diet (eggs, some butter). Patients need to look at what works for them. And there are so many ways to be ketogenic nothing should be off limits.
@@CANCEREVOLUTIONdoc I said as much in my reply.
lol… you heard? I think I’ll just listen to her and ignore your supposed non existent, non- factual sources… thanks.
Diet is keto if you're actually in ketosis. What on earth is "keto like"? A euphemism for "unlimited meat and alcohol"? Oh well...
For many cancer thrivers they try and enjoy eating some less keto friendly foods in moderation after being strict for so long. It is a choice for sure. I see my wife Maggie Jones eat apples or cantaloupe every once in a while, but at this point the goal isn't strict ketosis. I think it just depends on where individuals are in their journey and how strict they want to be. For some patients still dealing with cancer, moving along the track to keto could be keto-like. It can be a very hard diet for some. We certainly don't encourage (or believe) that people who've used keto to help with their cancer just stop keto. And a glass of champagne at a birthday party or a little fruit is simply living. And close enough to keto a Thriver can jump right back in quickly if necessary.
Keto is certainly not unlimited alcohol. High quality fat and protein from meat, is easily available nutrients and very low sugar.
Hi Katie - I'm not sure how I missed your comment. My apologies for the late reply!
An important clarification: I was following a 'keto-like' diet in-between cancer diagnoses, primarily for post-pregnancy weight loss. I was unaware at the time that my cancer had metastasized, and so wasn't in any way attempting to treat my cancer via keto protocols. You're right about the euphemism though--I was completely ignorant to the damage I was doing at the time, particularly with my alcohol intake.
With the assistance my integrative oncologist and team, we've determined a nutrient-dense, plant-based diet (including occasional eggs and fish) is the right combination for both my metabolic terrain and my cancer. I know most folks equate metabolic therapies exclusively with keto, but there are myriad ways to maximize your metabolic health, and we're learning more all the time. It's truly and deeply exciting.