The Racetrack wouldn't let us Race! Made up rules & bad luck in week two at Hickory Motor Speedway
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- Опубліковано 11 бер 2023
- They wouldn't let us race! Hickory Motor Speedway fabricates a rule not in the rulebook to prevent us from racing during week two of competition.
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At a time when short tracks have a light shining on them, and a resurgence in popularity, this is something you never want to see. All I can say is you showed a great deal of control, and handled it like a true professional, your sponsors should be very proud to support you. Keep digging, and know the fans will be supporting you wherever you decide to run next weekend!
I am so proud of you for showing Championship Caliber decorum while getting ran over on and especially off the track. Take that High Rock Chevy back to Hickory and burn the track up next race!!!💁🏻🤨😤🤬
When outside funds are injected into a local community track a guaranteed clown show will ensue. Without these funds said track would be forced to dissolve.. This is the classic humiliation ritual before prosperity.. The sheep now become emotionally invested and perhaps will even throw their own money at the cause.. Real Eyes Realize Real Lies.. Wake Up
Nobody cares about oval asphalt racing lol
@@brentmead3131 all of those head injuries have clearly caught up with you.
@@justlucky8254 statistics bud, maybe you should look at them.
I’m so proud of you son! You can only do so much! Keep your head up.. keep your spirit up. And one day… he will get what HE deserves! If he can lay his head down at night and feel good about what he does… then that’s on him!
So good to see you and Robert raise a son that is great. Be proud of that. I would love to see you and Robert one more time. If you don't realize by my name on here, Steve Walker's son. Love what Landon said, Hickory has always been crooked.
Oh wow. Yes . I do. Your dad was get man.
I Agree Mrs. Huffman! Started watching Landon last year. Great talent and great guy. Landons future is bright and the way he handled himself is professional and none of that should have happened if the track was run better.
It was a bad call on there part , if no one came down to tell them then they should have been able to run .
Mrs. Huffman,you are why choosy mothers choose Jif.
This is the kind of thing that kills short tracks. I've seen this kind of thing happen at both Pavement and dirt tracks. There is nothing more frustrating as a Racer, crew member, or fan. Promoters, operators, and sanctioning bodies have to do better at communicating and clarifying. Keep your head up brother. We're all behind you and we'll keep rooting for your success.
This is why drivers stop showing up to tracks and then tracks shut down. If they have been doing this for a long time then they are lucky they are a legendary track and hasn’t shut down years ago.
Communication has to improve
@@LandonHuffmanRacing yes definitely our local track had one of the biggest and fastest sprint car series come and they got promised a certain payout and when it was time to pay the promoter didn’t pay what they where supposed to and that series has never come back. It was always a sell out crowd when they came to
My short track is going to die like this. They let cheaters. Never follow their own rules half the time. And blame the drivers for not showing a tech meeting when they forget to announce it. Yes, we do have a paper saying it, but we are not always right by our phones to check the time. Most times, they are helping someone get their car ready and do final fixes before the race. Sometimes, we are getting food. Sad that this happens.
Keep diggin man! Every track has that one guy in charge that can’t tell his behind from his elbow.
This happened me in 2013. I lost the track championship because they made a rule In drivers meeting in 2012 that someone can have a sub in their car for one race and I protested because it wasn’t in the rule book and I got the same explanation. These tracks runned by guys like this is killing their tracks.
Trying to get family a championship most likely
I think the car looks better with the black wheels! Looks sharp!
Wasn't it just last year that they tried to tell you that you couldn't race another car in a different division or something like that? Its crazy how they are treating one of the most popular drivers they have and the defending track champion. You really showed alot of maturity on how you handled this whole situation
They tried the same thing on us at a 1/5 scale rc race with spoiler side size problem is the guy that owned the car is one the top body builders in the country (he builds as many bodies a year as all the others combined)and he explained to them if a rule isn’t posted in writing it’s not a rule ( him and his dad legitimately have around 20 championships between them in full size cars in modifieds and latemodels)
Gotta love when tracks make up rules on the fly!!!
These tracks think they have the golden ticket to F' with Drivers and Teams! For myself, last year, I had to accept that my home track was no longer going to be an option for me and my team! It hurt really bad, considering the track was 3 miles from my shop and my dad raced there in the '80's and all my crew had raced/crewed cars their most of their adult lives! I hate it for you and your crew Landon! Also, like the great Saturday Night Live skit that had Will Ferrell and Chirstopher Walken saying, "I want more cowbell"... I Want more Robert!!!! Thanks for trying to make LMSC racing great again!!!! Thank You!!!
Hey Landon, I am 47 and have enjoyed Hickory Speedway my whole life. It's great having a historical local short track to see stars and young dreamers...BUT...I / We long for the day of experienced ownership and promotion. Your sponsor pays for advertising, your family is a well-known racing name, and your guys need to be able to take pride in their hard work on track. For you and your dad to be told " You're not racing because WE SAID SO " is unacceptable. Hickory Motor Speedway unfortunately has a long history of being poorly run. Talk with your sponsorship about going CARS Tour racing. Their new owners should know what they are doing. Give them hell bud 🏁
Prayers and Beers for R.J. on the first "Black Wheels" video. Hmmm.... the luck o' black wheels
Been in similar situation before at Montgomery, all you can do is live and learn, easy to get mad and say you'll never go back but we always do. It was cool of you to still give the promoter props for his efforts at the track where most others would pitch a temper tantrum, you handled it about as good as possible. Just go out and bust their ass next race and win both races.
Almost this same thing happened to us. There was a rule about tires we were completely unaware of and almost got into trouble for. Had to bargain with the owners to be able to run. We got lucky enough to go race and still wreck the car 😅 it’s frustrating getting caught off guard like that, if I were you I’d be upset too
Should be a lawsuit against the track.
Sorry that you got bit by that “unwritten rule” we still really enjoy watching you compete, and the channel. Please thank all your crew for us, those guys are awesome!
So for the record, How many "unwritten rules " does the promoter/track owner have stored up his *** ?.
Tough start, but it'll turn around! Awesome video as always, Landon.
Sorry all this happened, I will say the camera view in the car was good. You could see you work the brake and back in the throttle very clear. I understand the advantages of tires with less laps but there has to be options when you’re involved in a crash of you not making. They’ve got to figure out a option to keep cars in the second race when this happens.
glad the view worked out! I will leave it be for the next one!
Looks like you need to go to Tri-County, Always enjoy racing there. You’ll make their season opener.
Enjoy the videos, keep it up!
The amount of exposure the track is receiving in the last year or two as a sanctioning body in Nascar should receive a call from Nascar. We hate it do you an we hope to see you at Caraway this year!
Might have to make the trip!
I was watching this on Flo & was SO confused about what was going on. Thanks for clarifying this. That's craziness.
no problem. thank you for the support
I was in my shop going WTH why is he not racing! And where is Barnes? Such BS. This is how a promoter loses car counts and fans! You work your ass off for this, but at least it wasn’t just you and there were other cars involved, burns your ass just a little less. Go out and show em next week!!
I think you have the right attitude about this. If it was a written rule you would have been fine with it. But the circumstance where you found out on the grid that you were unable to race would have set me off too.
Screw that place, crooked is crooked no matter how you frame it, there are plenty of honest tracks out there that would love to have you guys.
mannn perfect points in this video, couldve literally gave you tires or let you run the limited. don’t understand why they gotta really just screw you over in the end, i was just there for the first time last weekend, i think imma stick to my hometracks 😂 love the content landon keep it up and show him even the made up rules can’t stop the 75
Unreal. Bummed for ya'll and AirDoug. I keep up with ya'll on the ol'UA-cams .... keep diggin' boys.
Thank you brother
And that my friends is how race tracks lose racers.. 3 teams because of an already shitty night are now ultimately wanting to change up and race somewhere else because of a “ghost rule” those ghost rules come and go as they please.. here in PA we had a track like that, I got a suspension for ultimately speaking my mind about these said rules and it was the best thing they could’ve done! I got a lot of praise for saying what needed to be said! Well done Landon, speak up for yourself and say what needs to be said! Onto the next one.. keep the sponsors happy but also for future reference, keep the track state open on next seasons deals.. cause it’s weeks like these where you take a break there and make them realize what they are really losing! Good luck buddy!
Thanks Tyler I appreciate the support!
It'll turn around man. Y'all keep working hard it will turn around.👍🏁🏁🤙
Thanks Kevin
With rules like that, entry fees need to be paid right before the mains. I know that sounds silly, but so does enforcing a non existent rule that was verbally declared at a totally different event on a different date. I don't know if I could have kept my cool, I was getting mad watching the video! Lol!
As an old former racer that was B.S. Good job sticking up for yourself and your crew!
I can't add anything more here personally than I've already done on Twitter and FB, but I think the fans' voices are loud and clear. HMS would be wise to tread lightly and get their shit together.
They need to work on communication most importantly
gather up the others that got shafted and go to another track, sooner or later they will get the message
The only way to go is up now, can’t get any further down than that. We’re all behind you bud!
Thank you dude!
I'm new to your channel (but I damned sure subbed after seeing this!!!) but I am, unfortunately, familiar with promoters pulling BS moves like this. I grew up in NW Louisiana, watching my dad race at tracks like Boot Hill Speedway, Minden Speedway and other dirt venues. I cannot tell you how many times promoters/track officials decided to DQ some poor dude for a rule that was NEVER vocally or textually mentioned prior to that evenings races...and this was in the 70's and 80's. All you can do really is store that info in your brain, and Charlie Mike (that is an old Army thing, mean Continue Mission) I will be tuning in, Landon, because I LOVE what I see in your racing endeavors!!
P.S. if you ever need a paint scheme, hmu!
thanks man I really appreciate it!
I won't ever set foot at hickory because they made a rule "you guys need to be 200lbs heavier" after we were fast in open practice Friday
Corrupt as hell
I have been to many races at Hickory but after this I will not be back!
I haven't been to that track. Was gonna give it a chance. Will not now!
Keep digging Landon!! One reason I quit going to Hickory was the BS
Sounds like Nascar, making up rules as they go. Keep fighting guys!! Don't give up! And way to stand up for yourselves!
Complete bullshit. If it's a rule, it needs to be in the rule-book and mentioned in the driver's meeting every single time. No exceptions.
100%
Tuff brake landon. Always drama at the short tracks and it's the track causing it most of the time and they wander why people stop going. Better days coming bro we all know it. Don't let these 2 weeks rattle you it's just part of it. Some times when it rains it really pours but after that the flowers come out.
We will rebound! I have full confidence
Time to find a new track that loves the positive light you shed on the sport.
Sponsors want to see their advertisement out on the track so its def a BS call not to let you race. Hurts everyone involved.
It wasn’t ideal that’s for sure
Get well soon rj! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🦅🦅🦅💪🏽
Damn man, I winced inside when I saw the crash happening "not again!!" went off in my head. Then that BS call?? You kept it as cool as you could after that call, not sure I could have been as cool. Id say more but I'm trying to get my cussing under control.
And another black eye for the racing community! Hickory is a no go track now! That's too bad, Kevin needs to grow a pair n man up!
I saw Hickory's facebook post about this. Seems to be made up on the drop of a dime. No idea why that rule would ever exist unless they're assuming new tires would be too much of an advantage. Why not just start a lap down? Sorry my man. Shady behavior from Hickory.
Yeah I'm reading the fb post right now. Very shitty deal imo.
"This tire situation which occurred on Saturday has been addressed in these drivers meetings and prior drivers meetings for YEARS. The competitors in Late Models(Twin events) are told if they do not complete all 20 laps their tires will not be eligible for the second event. This would apply for a flat or cut tire before 20 laps are complete. The solution for this issue is the competitor is expected to purchase 1 or more tires(based on how many tires did not make it 20 laps) which would help to equal the tire situation with all the other competitors. Although Hickory Motor Speedway officials could have re-iterated the rule to these (3)teams, it does not take away the responsibility of the teams to know and understand the rules, whether
conveyed in the rule book or at the drivers meeting.
Since the (3) teams outside of the 20 lap minimum tire rule were not in compliance, our decision
Saturday Night was to allow all (3) teams to start and receive last place points and monies, however they
would not be able to advance their positions with the tire advantage. One team elected to take
advantage and start while the other two teams ELECTED to park without starting. All Cars were given
the opportunity to start."
While fresher tires would definitely yield an advantage, it would appear that they made no such mention of this rule during the drivers meeting for the day of this event. Nor did they present him the opportunity to buy scuffed tires before the second feature. There was a tire shortage the last couple years and plenty of tracks have enforced rules similar to this to help the little guy so to speak(my local dirt track did the same thing for their twin feature night a year or two ago for example), but this all needs to be spelled out for everyone to be on the same page. Florence speedway has a similar tire rule for twin features, except they're smart enough to spell it out clearly in the rulebook. "For twin races, you must start race one of the twins on the 4 new tires you qualified on. If you run 25 or fewer laps in race one, then you must start race two on the same four tires, one lap down at the back of the pack."
Sorry to hear that man. I feel your pain having dealt with unwritten rules in the past, and it's complete BS. Take it to 'em next week.
We will rebound as we always do🤘🏻
That’s crazy brother, you and the other drivers involved in that wreck were totally screwed. I understand completely if you don’t want to come back. Maybe you guys should go to another track and when they lose half there crowd in the grandstands maybe they will realize they messed up. Cause honestly if they were to lose you guys and say the 88 left as well. I really think they would wake up and realize they were wrong. Either way I’ll support you no matter what you do. Keep your head up brother, I know you’re going to kick ass no matter where you’re at. We love you guys here in the Bluegrass State…
Kevin Pearcy will never ever say he is wrong! He is to dig headed and has never been able to keep from screwing over the Racers and teams!
At least the new camera position looks great ;-)
That was not mentioned in the Driver's Meeting this is what kills race tracks right here
You should've let moonhead loose with some "BEEF" on them
Moonhead was set on kill
would love to see ya a tri county , great track , great officials great facility
Found some high rock at the NH liquor store, never seen it before but had to buy it!
F that place they wouldn’t see me anymore
I agree with yall,this happens in go kart racing with us
Hey Landon I’m a huge fan of your channel, I was wondering what do you use to record your radio communication and put it into your videos?
Man that's bad luck for you and Doug all that hard work and money spent to get to the track. Maybe you should run at other tracks Folrence, Southern National , Dillon, Orange County, anywhere but Hickory.
This shit has happened to me before during a race i lined up for the heat race and they said that i needed to go through inspection again and they said the kart was to light then we weighed it after we added some weight luckily it started to ran so all races were postponed giving me and my buddies to get the right amount of weight took it back to inspection and they said we had ran to fast in practice and that they needed to look at the motor and the shit that pissed me off was that they called my buddy that was racing he was starting 5th in the heat and i was 3rd for inspection and the karts were complete copies of each other setup wise and they told us we couldn't race they gave him the same bullshit excuse and then they call my 10 year old cousin who was doing his first race saying his was illegally modified and so we had to pack it up but we could stay and watch i talked to the manager of the track and the official reason we couldn't race was because the week before i had gotten into a altercation with one of the older drivers for putting his hands on my buddy because he supposedly caused him to spin out and hit the tire barrier and i ended up whooping his ass and his dad completely agree with what i did well his mom sees that I'm racing at this race and causes a seen and threatened to call the cops on me and the funny thing is he got to the main race and he won and they inspected his engine and found that it had been modified because he had made a massive lead and was running at least 10 miles an hour faster than everyone else and he was pissed and he started rasing hell and his dad walked over to the official and said thank you for the racing it was fun but his son wouldn't be coming back and sold his shit right their to the kid in second gear tires part and kart for 500 bucks and the guy hasn't showed up since but it is sad that this shit happened to you Landon
What the hell Landon that sucks man. Get Well soon RJ
RJ is still on the mend
Dam bro that’s shitty.Caraway and tri county would love to have you guys.Fans would be excited at tri county to see you run there .Sorry about what happened just stay true to yourself and it will all workout
That was a complete cluster- fuck at Hickory last night.
Will North Wilkesboro run a weekly series after the renovation is done, might want to head up there if they do
Just use this as motivation and go win the next race and the race after that and so forth
This is terrible. As a resident of Hickory for over 20 years, you are my official short track hero. It's things like this that I have heard of from several locals are the reason I don't show up for the races. The FACT this track turned down $50k when Iracing first attempted to scan the place for the simulator told me everything I needed to know about the leadership there. I even worked with a lady who's son TRIED to come up with awesome ideas and she would give me updates. He finally got fed up and left because of their resistance to change. I guess I'll try to watch some more dirt racing HMS....their purses are bigger and shows more entertaining. The only thing HMS seems to have going for it is those STUPID tour of destruction events.
That’s some bull, keep your head up it’ll get better!!!
Live to race another day!
Being on the rev limiter, doesn't that hurt the valve train. How often you change valve springs?
Sounds like you need to find a new place to race on Saturday nights. They screwed you last year in the limited car as well. They make up rules on race night…..total bullshit
As if getting knocked out of the first 40 wasn’t punishment enough, they take you out of any chance of getting any purse money for the second 40 to salvage the night. They sealed the deal for me , I won’t be going back to that skanky track, other than the history that facility has nothing else going for it
That’s not right ! Way to treat your track champion !
That’s total bs how they just randomly do that to you I hope you win the championship again this year.
Hate that happened man, I swear that 75 looks better with black wheels. Hope RJ feels better. Do you know what race yall are going to visit wake county speedway? Thanks.
Man. What owners, drivers, or combination of are politicking and pulling this sht? Someone's gotta be runnin to the officials and getting in their ear to get these calls made. Someone that could never beat your dad probably.
That’s plenty of other race tracks that would love you’re notoriety and that’s for sure!!
I wish it was that easy to up and change plans! We will see what happens
@@LandonHuffmanRacing I guess he still has it against you from when you should have won over his son
Come to Nashville in May when the Arca East series races
Sounds like Charlie Powell of Summerville Speedway SC. Made up rules for his son Robert. Had favoritism for family members.
this makes me wonder how many more unwritten rules will be enforced in the future
WOW! Unbelievable...
A rule like that is only as good as the paper it is written on
That’s why short track racing is fucked because they do what they feel at the moment
WOW,,, Should have Known? Are there examples of this from before? Something doesn't smell right. You handled it a lot better than I would of. I doubt I would race there again.
Last year I think it was AirDoug got fucked over by Hickory. Think it was they qualified he qualified top 5 then the track decided they where gonna run by points. Then the track forced him to give back tires he already paid for or be banned.
Yeah we were there, that's total bull shit! I don't think even when I was going and helping on a team that was a rule. Hopefully they will get their heads straight and make changes in the correct way. Of all people with Kevin running the tire shed in the early 2000's you would think he would have made that a known rule if it was a thing. I honestly kind of felt like there was someone they wanted to take the win. I know that probably sounds pretty lame but well, I said what I said.
I've also never seen them move a car to the back when they are in a wreck but aren't fully involved but it happened Saturday.
I'm sure there's a need for a rule in a situation like that, but to not allow you to race is a piss poor solution The promoter should get that resolved ASAP
That's bull crap man. Never been to Hickory and nor will I come now. Good luck Landon. If you race somewhere else, I'll try to come. I was at the Hickory metro center for my son's wrestling tournament. Whoever did that wasn't prepared either. Was way over fire code for all the people in the building and rude as well. Was gonna come to the speedway after it was done. But after all that bs we decided to go home. Guess that was a good call. Wouldn't have seen you race if we showed up. Would've been even more upset.
We have got to improve communication. Simple as that.
I think that would be it for me. Tri county is 15 mins further down the road
Tough luck on that wood Hickory I wouldn't suggest and find another track that's about an hour or two away from your shop
If it’s not written rule, and they haven’t mentioned it in a drivers meeting this season, that is flat out wrong.
I’ve had planned on going to Hickory for a race this season, but I doubt I will now.
I just passed a kidney stone Saturday I feel for RJ. Those things are no joke!
never had one and hope like hell I dont ever get one lol
You should come run Kingsport TN the season hasn't started yet and probably don't pay as much as hickory though
Do y'all come too Motor Mile?
come to sobo this weekend man 🤷♂️
Tracks are having a hard enough time
I can tell by the way the car drives that's. A big bar soft spring conventional set up maybe like a 600 left front and 650 right front and a 850 right rear packed full of rubbers
This is crazy.
If you qualified, they have to let you race unless stipulated in the RULES.
You may have to start scratch, but you should have been able to run the second race.
If they are running NASCAR rules (points), track requires they follow points races the same.
It seems the track can do as they please
Come race at Anderson on Friday nights.
And this is why I stopped going to hickory and drive out to tri county speedway it’s so much better there
We raced there back in the nineties, and never again. Thru don't like winners if you're an outsider. F' those guys.
all good LH, its drama that ads to the video and car has no damage. all it cost was gas and a little rubber but was a test session.
Come to dominion haha we’d love to see you here
Man if it wasn’t a 6 hour drive I’d consider!
damn man it sucks that this happened to you. the very first time you ever raced there and they forgot to mention a rule in the driver’s meeting
So what there saying is you could ride around in the back real easy for twenty laps and pull off and keep your tires like new . Then run your next heat race or feature race.
Come up the mountain a couple hours to Motor Mile Speedway if you’re done with Hickory
This is the kind of crap that destroys short tracks! Way to keep your cool and not come over the top rope!
A promoter being dishonest? I'm shocked ! "Not in the rule book but..." wouldn't hold up in court . Time to find a new track .
I'm also shocked that anything connected to NASCAR would change the rules as they go. If they had brought this up something in the past and intended to keep it a rule, the rule book should be amended