Why England Lost AGAIN
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That moment in the game just after Palmer equalised where Walker took an age to take a throw-in and we ended up just playing it all the way back to Pickford who then hoofed it up field only to give it away to a Spanish player pretty much summed up what was wrong about us this tournament. There's no killer instinct. Spain WERE there for the taking after Palmer equalised and since Watkins came on. I truly think if we'd been braver and pushed them hard during that period it could well have been us getting that winning goal. That said I think Spain were fully deserved winners and the best team in the tournament from start to finish so fair play to them.
It's not lacking killer instinct, it is credit to Spain, that we couldn't play out of the press.
However we were on top, I think we needed Toney as opposed to Watkins if we were going to hoof.
spot on, that moment showed everything wrong with this England team
Couldn’t agree more mate. I knew after that happened we’d lose. I fear England will never change that cowardly approach, and we’ll never win anything. The fact that anyone defends Harry Kanes performance during this euros, the fact anyone defends Southgate and says he should stay on (before he retired) just goes to show me that the British mentality will never change. Unless we get a truly attacking manager who doesn’t care about being loyal, who is brave, willing to drop players based on current form instead of reputation, we will never ever win.
Because England play from fear of losing, Spain play to win from a confident play style
You can’t play a low block unless you also play counter attack. There were no runners in the starting lineup. Obvious.
Kane needed Sterling or Rashford who have real pace and force defenders to drop dèep so when kane drops deep he has space to operate. Bellingham, foden, sake all want ball to feet and don't make enough off the ball runs
Not just that, I'd go one further. There is no forward movement when England have the ball anywhere,from anyone. Bellingham got criticised for getting caught on the ball and there were a number of these instances where you looked across the field and there were no outlets in attack, everyone stood still
England overachieved to get to the final, Spain played brilliant the whole tournament. England were lucky to not lose by 5 goals....
England didn't overachieve. They are very hard to beat. They lost 1 match on the pitch in 2 euro tournaments and they were an inch away from 2-2 in 90 mins
The reason we lost is because we sat back after equalising.
I couldn't believe my eyes the way you completely squandered the momentum swing after scoring and had the whole stadium behind you. Embarrassing tactics from the manager.
I will absolutely never understand why they did that... WHY would you kill a massive momentum push by doing that?!?!? what were they thinking.. bottling is in our dna ffs.
The game briefly was in their hands, push on, keep position, break their lines and they might have won in 90 minutes. Nope, just gave them the ball for ten minutes and they got their winner thanks to that.
...no it's because you just aren't good enough. Once again you had an easy draw and then got outclassed at the end by a superior team. Better tactics don't entitle England to a victory
Exactly
Kane was the main issue throughout the Tournament - the striker is the initiator of the press (he doesn’t press). He hardly ever got on the ball to make passes even though he played deep, he made no runs in the box, he made no good shots. They carried him, and they were so much better when he was subbed off. His touch was off as well, and he never held up the ball or acted as an affective target. He offered nothing . Was he injured? Lacking in fitness? Either way, he should not have played
Kane is useless if a team he plays for sets the center of gravity of the game in their own half. But if you are a team that sets center of gravity in opponents final third then he will do magic for you, both with his thru ball passing, or finishing. And if my striker thrives in attacking system, and I dont play that style of football, then Im failing my team
Exactly. Yet some assholes like hamza talks football blame bellingham. Yet hes the reason england continued on in the tournament
@@ashalonchiq Bellingham was pretty rubbish too.
3 times he came off. England scored within 5 mins.
Not English. So sort of impartial. I don't actually see a style of play that tells me how you want to score. Goals seem to come from individual brilliance rather than well worked tactics or targeted areas. I suppose ultimately it comes down to 'who's team is this?'.
Ultimately England didnt deserve to win. Southgate's tactics do not take advantage of his player's skill set AND it is boring to watch!
Starting a slow and aged striker is a BIG reason. Watkins deserved to start. He's fast and knows where to run when passes come to him
Which was entirely apparent from the first game. It's like we're told not to believe what our eyes are seeing. Southgate has no plan B and has no idea how to coach elite players, that much has always been obvious. His stubborn refusal to ditch Kane is also a big reason. Kane always comes into summer tournaments knackered. Toney or Watkins would have done infinitely better. Spain playing a high line? Have a snail like Kane was never going to trouble them.
@@ashalonchiq Spain completely shutdown Englands midfield. Watkins or Toney wouldn’t have made a big difference. Luis de la Fuente won the tactical aspect of the match and completely outclassed Southgate.
I've been saying the same thing that man wasn't fit all tournament @StephenC1908
How about the fact that Spain are simply better?
@StephenC1908 ha ha! too true!
We stunk our way through to the final then expected a different performance 😂
Southgate is tactically inept and refuses to play players in form over the big-name players. With the wealth of talent and pace we had on the bench, we should be going at teams. However, this is against his mantra as a defensive-minded manager. Kane was useless in every game and should have never been in the team today, or any game after the group stages. Had we gone with Gordon on the left and Palmer up top, we could and should have won many of these games easily. Southgate has to go, he's too scared to lose games than he is confident to win them.
Did Gordon fall out with him or something because him and Bowen vanished from that team and never got a fair chance
@@robillustrates6949totally agree
Totally agree
Trent and gorden should have came on
Best team won. That's good for football.
as someone living in germany, its been a dead tournament tbh besides some cool stories like Georgia, Turkey and a few very good games.
Euros were generally rubbish. Southgate insisted on persisting with Foden, Kane and a few others who really did not contribute much. Gordon, Toney, Palmer, Watkins all made this team substantially better when they played.
England over achieved, and Spain had one of the greatest tournament performances of all time, facing down Germany, France, and more before reaching the final. England should be happy with how far they got and build a new plan for the team ahead of the World Cup.
We scored and then went back to no press and sat back... so negative.
England should be chasing Jurgen for the world cup, let him have a break then pay him what he wants! Southgate is just not on the level we need
We can dream.
@StephenC1908 he doesn't have to be English at all, we've already had a manager that was not from England and the women won the euros with a Dutch manager
@StephenC1908 Sven was Swedish champ, its been done before. Jurgen is one of the very best, simple.
S'gate plays a low block & counter with players who come from teams that dominate the ball and press high. Also, Watkins and Palmer should be starting. He brings them on late and then gets to claim to be a tactical genius when the team scores - imagine if that balanced team had started!
Biggest difference was that Spain started dominating after half time because one coach knows football and the other doesn't have a clue.
And I'm not even an England fan
A reason for that Low Block is England have no midfielders able to dictate the Game like Kroos rodri. Without this type of Player or a Centerback pairing which is very good on the Ball England will never be Ball dominant
@@zirbto5749 Rice did that job really well with Arsenal. He's a beast if he focuses only on defending. Then you can have an 8 in Bellingham (yes, move him to b2b) and a more creative 10 in Palmer. Or even Foden at 10 and definitely play Gordon at LW.
As for the 2 ball-playing CBs, you have them. Stones is one. The other could have been White or Tomori. I wonder who is to blame for them not being in the team?
Pickford
Trent, Guehi, Stones, Shaw
Rice, Mainoo
Saka, Bellingham, Gordon
Toney/Watkins
It’s that simple lmao. England need a manager like Nagelsmann, someone that wants to have the ball and play offensively.
Someone that implements a system and builds his lineup around that system.
Foden was the poty, but he has to play Cam or RW and move to the middle. Palmer is very similar. If you rather would have one of them instead of Bellingham or Saka, then I’m 100% fine with that, but DONT force them to play on the left side. A left winger/midfielder needs to play on the left side, I don’t care that much if it’s Gordon, Grealish or whoever
I completely agree.
To be able to give such a level headed non explosive analysis of your team only a few hours after, fair play loz. Refreshing to say the least
The midfield of Spain is so good and so strong, while England didnt even know who their midfield was till game 3! Foden is useless, Kane was poor, Southgate trying to fit them all is not how a team functions, Spain everyone fits well, everyone is pumped and strong on and off the ball, and a squad full of talent all over that know their role!!
There is alot of problem with England and Southgate. But this playing Foden and Bellingham is so frustrating. Its clear both hated to play left side but Southgate keep forcing one of them to play wide just because he want to accommodate both. This is the Gerard and Lampard thing all over again.
Alot of issues stem from southgate.
One example is playing the name instead of effectiveness.
- Foden is the name, Palmer is effective
- Kane is the name, Watkins/Toney are effective.
Etc etc…
Simple, England only looks good on paper. Player's quality as usual is not there. In this Euro it showed again in every game it played. 58 years without a trophy!
You look normal again after the haircut Loz, nice to have you back.
Main problem is that realities are not recognized correctly. Some of the older players are , at least ,out of form if not too old already. Some of the younger players are overhyped because some club paid 100 million for them and they are pretty good as long they are in the context of their strong teams but not good enough to carry a team at this level . Palmer showed at Chelsea that he could be a leader to build a team on.
England lost because Pickford was told to boot the ball to a different universe. Also, Kane is a bad luck charm.
Jarrell Quansah and Trent Alexander Arnold should have played every minute. That would have done it man!!!!
Jarrell Quansah wasn't even in the squad
@@karlmaddox1209 i am just saying that it's the kind of thing Laurence can say. His solution to everything is to put Liverpool players in the team at the expense of City players. I wonder why
@@nikolas8203 aah OK i understand now. my apologies. My bad.
It's been a while since I've been here. Lauro's haircut is sharp.
Great to see u back doing top content mate
Thank you mate!
If you're going to insist on playing Kane, then you HAVE to put players around him with pace, who will run beyond him, or play wide and get crosses in... Like Gordon. A lot of the players we had playing weren't in a system, or style of play that gets the best out of them. Having either Bellingham or Foden play on the left being another prime example. Most of the time, all three of them were trying to play in basically the same position.
We had the players/squad to win this tournament... That's what's so frustrating. We just needed a manager who was braver, and more willing to implement a system and style of play that gets the best out of our star players. The fact that Gordon basically got no game time, despite arguably making one of the best plays we had, in the couple of minutes he did actually get to play. There were examples of this throughout the tournament. The fact that Palmer and Watkins didn't start in the final was ridiculous. We looked so much better when they played. They helped to stretch the play and allow us to play further up the pitch. Also, while we're on the subject of Palmer... Why did he come on for Mainoo and not Foden? So, we had three number 10's on the pitch then... It's no wonder we conceded a second goal.
It’s obvious and simple, Southgate is totally out of his depth. Pickford needlessly gives the ball away, Kane refuses to play in his position and clearly isn’t fit. How can you not play Trent in his position? We need a manger who understands progressive offensive tactics and is ruthless with team selection, and a team fit for purpose. We have the players, there is no excuse, we were terrible from the first game.
The coach is an absolute limiting factor . The importance of coach quality to importance of player quality ratio is sooo underestimated . OImagine Big Sam managing Spain or Southgate managing ManCity . They would not win anything because an excellent team needs at least a very good manager in order to convert the player potential into game plans and mechanics that work .
I love you and miss you from Geordie's show. You should do stand up! Like a show during a show where you have a large audience watching a game together and you giving commentary.
I'm 34 years old and grew up with the golden generation always hoping and expecting to go far into tournaments, we never got past a quarter final :(
Southgate has given me two finals and two penalty shootout wins. The mentality and unity he's installed in my opinion is priceless.
For that reason I'm not a "Southgate out" screamer, but more of shaking hands, thank you Gareth for all you've done but it's time for the reigns to be handed over.
We are building, the future is bright, imagine what happens when we actually play well, it is coming home one day, just not today 😔
Maddie will come home before any trophy lad.
Reminds of champions league final where Kane started over Lucas even though he wasn’t fit. Except here England did it for an entire tournament
You lost because just like other aspects of the UK, bureaucracy is the name of the game. Unfortunately football is no exception. Though it has been clear as day for the longest time that Southgate is not the elite manager you need to win you things, but he has been kept on the job as he ‘fulfils’ other obligations to his contract. If you’re hired to win as a manager, then winning is the singular reason and nothing else.
Wow!!! We are witnessing the birth of a new England manager. Keep it up.
Pickford has the ability to kick it wherever he wants. Can only assume Southgate wanted it longer or the team were getting successfully pressed and he needed to be safe.
Results were better than my expectations.
Performances were way below my expectations.
Southgate did exactly as I expected. Defensive tournament football, with no clear tactics.
If there was no quotas there would be zero English players in the Premier league.
Not far from the truth. Their emerging players are too relaxed because they know they are protected by quota system.
@StephenC1908😂😂😂😂 yeah no way in hell
@StephenC1908 why did arsenal beat Sevilla over 2 games in the champions league then ??? Sevilla would be lucky to finish top 5 in the prem
@@ikw2828because of a majority non English players and a Spanish coach, lol.
No one claims to be a great tactician . It’s just obvious that unless and until England starts producing good coaches no amount of talent will suffice. If you have the best players and your coach is anywhere near the quality of the opposition coach , then you outplay them and win . It is only because the difference in coaching quality is so large that this difference in player quality does not show on the pitch .
Spaim deserved winners. The best balance across the team, most progressive football, direct technical wingers, dominant and physical midfield, playing to everyones strengths.
Southgate barely ticked any of these boxes. Got it all wrong. We won 2 games out of 7 in 90 minutes. We scraped through the knockout rounds through the elite mentality of some of our players.
I really really hope the next manager is able to realise this and just set us up in the most balanced way.
Apart from Germany, Spain beat big teams that were past their best and they only beat the defending champions Italy by an own goal.
I think we all bought into some “it’s fate we’re going to win - England are inevitable” narrative which papered over the cracks. Reminded me of the women’s World Cup final last year; just blown off the park and had no answer.
The Spanish player could have scored third goal after going closer goal net. No one was behind him. He was him english goalkeeper and the last minutes of the game. No idea what he was doing.
Last Euros you had a Sterling who constantly ran into the space when Kane dropped. Foden and seemed to eager to receive the ball facing defender, instead of making runs behind that gives the defenders something to worry about.
England looked/played best when Kane was off the pitch; Palmer and Watkins created problems. But Kane always started and this held them back. Grealish and Rashford would have stretched opposition by threatening in behind.
Pickford’s distribution was horrendous in the final.
We gave the ball away far too much. Whether that's misplaced passes, Pickford launching it long or not playing out of the press properly. We need a proper 6 who wants the ball and is positionally aware to show for the GK or defenders against these top teams. Rice seems to have reverted to his 6 role in a West Ham team that didn't play possession based football. He plays better for Arsenal in the 8 role from what I've seen.
Our press from the front line and the midfield was disjointed in the 4 at the back. Could've been the manager but I don't think Southgate would've told them to not press as a team, it's just backwards. I could be wrong but he's a qualified football manager and it's just not logical, and he keeps bringing up the press on what went wrong. Then again, he could've told them to play deep which would open spaces.
I would've liked to see Wharton and Gordon experimented more in the group stages to see what they provided the team in different circumstances, and definitely Trent at right back. Of course, poor performance from the 3 Laurence mentioned and Kane offered almost nothing in the tournament which is very concerning.
On the other hand, players like Guehi and Palmer have shown just how important they will be in future tournaments.
11:04 the hype that people get sucked into is that England are always hot favourites because the Premier League is the self proclaimed best league in the world and the players have huge social media accounts. And yeah, football is always coming home, year after year 😂😂😂
England played exactly the same in the final as they had all tourney by which i mean when pressed they do not have the technical players in pivotal positions, support play from team mates and game plan to keep hold of the ball which would relieve the pressure we were under. Obviously Kane's lack of mobility meant our long ball was coming straight back at us, Walker and Rice not being comfortable on the ball under the pressure of a press means playing out from the back under pressure was unsuccessful. So Spain sent us packing, Southgate should have seen these problems ahead of time as they are not new issues and most people knew Spain would press high, hard and fast as they have done all tourney. Playing Toney from the start could have helped the long ball be more productive and playing Trent right back with his passing and composure might have helped playing out from the back. i said after the first 20 mins of our opening game to play Bellingham next to Rice and get on a left winger on to stretch the oppo's back 4-5 out to open the space between their defenders. Our manager was not brave nor did he show a capacity to learn and adapt, he should walk. I am not even going to mention Trippier at Lb LOL!!
Its simpler than that,spain are the better team,both in this tournament and in europe.The vast majority of england fans and there comments are very complimentary to a great spanish win and performance we were gobsmacked to get to the final again while supposed better teams are wishing they were in it and so are there fans enjoyed the Euros again well done Germany.🇪🇸⚽🏴👍
Laurence scapegoating Pickford as normal😭😭
Southgate is and has been a terrible manager for this team. His legacy is trash. Being able to charm and manage people isn’t hard. Nothing to applaud. Team management otherwise, tactically, in game subs, squad management etc, have been HORRIBLE. Has gotten bailed out many many times by great players. You’re in a cultural moment my dude, this is a English thing. Y’all are insecure about a lot rn. You need to believe Southgate is great and this team is great. But it’s not going to happen unless you get real.
I'm entering middle age, and I'm not sure I have it in me to be passionate about England going forward; it's just not fun, I feel overwhelming stress the whole time only to have no reward at the end of it, bar the moments in the middle of the tournament.
England in this tournament were described as a team that can find a way to win. Liverpool were many times described in the same way. Teams usually get described this way when they are not playing well. Liverpool did end becoming a second half at end of klopps reign. First halves became pointless to watch because they were conserving energy for the second half. And liverpool seemed to win too many games and finals on penalties . Southgate gave too much of an impression his team was playing for penalties. The standard of football was woeful and they were a terrible watch not just in this competition but previous ones as well. Only wanting to play attacking football when you are chasing a game is not a recipe for producing a good football team. You've got to have a higher standard of playing than the occasional ten minutes here and there. All teams need a bit of luck but eventually it will run out. Evidence those three headers in a row. If one of those had gone in and england drew level it would have hidden England's faults in the whole game.
If you think England are going to win against Spain with constant long balls from a goalkeeper, then you’re smiling something. Kane needs crosses into the box, he isn’t the issue. Total sham tactics and a complete lack of awareness as to how to correctly utilise players correctly is the issue.
Morata did eveything Kane should’ve done/been doing for this England side. Kane offered nothing in terms of goals, assists, off the ball.
Southgate said he was struggling with fitness - so why did he force it and persist with playing him. His mobility and effect on the pitch was shocking.
That’ll be his, and Southgate’s, last tournament imo.
He even played him in the last group game, when they had already qualified
Congratulations Spain, commiserations England. Fair play to De La Fuente. Was bashed by the Luis Enrique crowd but got Spain over the line first try balancing that possession dominant style with a more direct approach suited for cup teams 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
The margins were very close. That Dani Olmo clearance off the line is worth a goal in of itself. Looking forward to the Argentina Colombia game now to close out the day of finals.
Thanks for the coverage as always Loz 👊🏿💜
Harry Kane is SELFISH for playing through injury. FFS we were essentially playing with 10 men all tournament. He also kept a player in Ollie Watkins who can run in behind and who had 32 goal contributions in the EPL on the bench. I also don't give a damn about Kane's 40+ goals with Bayern, considering the amount of quality service he has on his team and he is also playing in a weaker league than the premier league. He is the most overrated player of all time and has no silverware to show for it. Oftentimes, teams he has played for look better when he isn't playing. Ie. Spurs 2019 UCL campaign. If Southgate and Kane are out, England will be Champions in 2026.
Also the fact that Jude Bellingham spent the majority of the match on the left handside does my absolute head in. Anthony Gordon was rotting on the bench all TOURNAMENT. Why was Southgate so reluctant to play Gordon. WHY did Phil Foden play a full 90 minutes when he was offering NOTHING ALL TOURNAMENT. How did Cole Palmer not get a single start in this tournament. Serious questions need to be asked and for the obvious favoritsm shown to certain players and the absolute waste of brilliant talents like Palmer, Gordon and Watkins who spent the majority of this tournament sitting on the sidelines when we were playing CRAP football.
England lost to Iceland 8 years ago and were within a minute of losing to Slovakia in this tournament- progress? In a group table, I think they would have placed behind France Germany and portugal. Maybe even Croatia.
WHY? LOL
Sorry to the English fans arrogant and blind with your "is coming home" BUT when we think that English team will still be seen by some as the second team of this Euro...
So actually the only talents so far of the English team “lucky losers”:
1- The chance to always be in recent years and tournaments (incredible at this point) in the weak part of the table with the strongest teams on the other side.
And when the English finally meet a big team coming from the other strong side of the table, they lose...
2- Be very helped by the UEFA organization.
See for example the previous Euro which took place for all the teams throughout Europe EXCEPT for the English who played ALL their matches except 1 at home, while favorite teams like France had to travel several hundred kilometers or even thousands between each match!
After all, English Football is very rich and powerful in Europe and everything can be bought eh...
3- Being very helped by the refereeing, like the very generous penalty given to the English in the semi-final vs the Netherlands, when the referee could and even should have called a foul from Kane or a good hand visible (except for the referees and even the VAR) of an English player before.
After all, English Football is very rich and powerful in Europe and everything can be bought, I say that again but I say nothing...
The second team of this Euro (low level this year, all the players are exhausted by too long a season!), is not England but on the other stronger side of the table, Germany, or France despite being in this Euro at 70% of its usual strength, or Portugal or even Belgium, the Belgians did not dare to play vs France in 1/8 but I would have liked to see them vs England before the final...
CONCLUSIONS FOR ME:
- First as often, not always but often, the team that manages to eliminate the French Team Les Bleus, wins the tournament! ^^
- In this Euro it's the teams which dare their youngest talents which will have produced the best game and which with Spain will have won in the end!
Incidentally the player who scores for the English in the final is also a young player.
Their young, even very young, talents, in full possession of their health vs great veterans but burnt out and exhausted by too long and hard a season.
The typical example was the French team at 70% maximum of its strenght with all these great veterans and main players (Mbappé, Griezmann, Giroud, etc...) exhausted and burnt out even before the start of the Euro or recently returning from a serious injury (Tchouaméni for example), and who did nothing during the Euro. Well until the semi-final lost vs Spain, future winner despite everything, many teams would already be very happy with that, but not us given how well below their level Les Bleus are in this Euro...
Spain is the team that played the best game in this Euro, helped by its young talents in full physical health. Spain deserved to win.
Rams would make more sense then Pickford considering the way football is played today
Watkins should of started
they would have still lost, and then you would have asked why Southgate didn't start Kane. Hindsight merchant
8:59 i figured with with a three back against wingers, Kyle was too central and ends up pulling away from Williams. Thats could have naturally closed that door with a back 4m it was annoying seeing kyle have to retreat so often before they're too close and kane needed winger's
Hi Laurance, just found your channel. I've been watching a lot of different videos on the final. I am sixty-six and I live in Ireland. I have been watching English football for close on sixty years. I remember watching the 1966 World Cup Final and I was delighted that England won. After all I was and still am a United fan. And a fan of the English Premier league and the lower leagues. I haven't been to OT since before covid and I doubt I will see it again. We are all armchair football pundits with our own opinions. Do you think that England would have done better with two fast players up front? I'm thinking of Watkins and Toney. I can't blame Harry Kane or anyone else either. But Kane is what I consider to be an "old fashioned " striker. It's not rocket science but a player like Kane needs crosses from wingers and/ or attacking wing backs. Unfortunately this didn't happen so that's why I asked about Watkins and Toney. Southgate is a genuinely nice guy and his contribution to English football shouldn't be forgotten. He took England to two Euro finals and a World Cup semi final. That's no mean feat. I firmly believe that another huge burden on the players is the media driven hype. A lot of the fans and even some of the players fall for it. The expectation that England are going to win every tournament is not helpful. I saw a few post match interviews and the hype is still there. People saying that England will definitely win the next World Cup! There's only one definite in life and that's death. I totally get the national pride and the hope. Of course you want your country to win. The Premier league is the best watch by a mile. Thank you for your uploads, I am going to binge watch your other videos.
Welcome Jerry
Led by losers is why.
Kane as captain, Southgate as manager
My positive is that Trent was not on the field and the goals came from the right back slot and he's therefore not to blame at all. Plus, he's been training, but has not really played for a few weeks, so he should be back and in good form for Slot's first few months at Liverpool.
I was 12 in 1990 and was happily cheering for England to win that WC semi, similarly in 1996. But England have always flattered to deceive and no manager has been fantastic (not always their fault) since Bobby Robson's 1990 team, although to be fair GS has been alright, however he's not used any Liverpool players to their best abilities, or has sent them back injured (Joe Gomez at least twice).
I'm not too keen on England, it's the previous fan behaviour and arrogance, which is not there with the Welsh. I'm English born to English born parents, but my Grandmother was Welsh and with my name I've had so much stick growing up I've preferred to support the team I was getting stick for, rather than England.
Last night England played well for about 15-20 minutes, Spain played well for about 50-100% longer and they cheated and fouled to an annoying level too, but they ultimately deserved to win significantly more than England.
The problem is... potentially, at least, who would GS be replaced by? GP has not managed for some while, so who else could replace GS?
You are right, HK is not the answer. GS should change his regular CF - IT is good, but probably too old for England. They need someone who will be the 1st choice for up to another decade.
I notice a lot of Liverpool and man utd fans with similar opinions. Most blame the treatment of their players by fans and media(scapegoats). The fan behaviour seems to only add to the resentment. Not being English I find this interesting.
They commanded the game especially in midfield the entire first half.
Kane was deep, out of position and actually slowed played down when we needed to be slick and move with pace. He was playing in the Foden and Bellingham role playing passes to no one because he should have been upfront and on the end of the plays he was attempting to make.
When we scored they were briefly lost, we had momentum and our only genuine chance.
What did we do, sit back, let them dominate possession, regain composure and ultimately hand back the control to them. It led to their goal.
Walker went missing in the second half, they got through constantly on his watch.
Our defense was knackered by the end. Why because Gareth’s tactics lead them to have to do a lot to overwork. They had very little left in the tank by 80 minutes.
Gareth expects miracles of our midfield and attack when they are often marked in numbers and isolated due to our desire to have 7 players behind the ball at all times.
The subs were good but desperate. The long ball tactic was desperate, Gareth has one tactic for six years and still has no plan B, never has, never will it seems. The quality of the players was bailing him out. Today it wasn’t remotely enough.
I hate how we play like underdogs when we have a team full of domestic winners and actual quality. Time for Southgate to go but bring in someone with a history of winning trophies and add that into this talent pool and maybe we can get over the line with these generational talents
The Harry Kane curse 😭
Speaking of Harry Kane, did he lose all but 1 of his Aeriel battles this match? I swear that guy couldn't get a good header to save his life
There’s a typo. Aerial is how you spell it. Not trying to be a dick. But maybe your phone auto corrected to that name.
Kane won nothing up front the entire tournament. The fault lies with his arrogance to insist he's fit enough to play and Southgates for not having the balls to make the call for him.
@@BiggestChungus21 yeah it did. Good catch 👍
people always try and justify their criticism but it's not really necessarily. Reviewing is way easier than doing, I can rightly realise that a book is bad, or a meal at a restaurant, that doesn't mean that I could be a professional author or chef. The problems with Southgate's england were plain for all to see, gotta go now.
The fact that Southgate had Bowen, Gordon, Palmer, Watkins and Toney on the bench and he still uses them sparingly shows you just how much he loves to pick (his) favorites. If he's still not sacked after this then the FA really are a bunch of clowns and England as a footballing nation is cooked. But it's more entertainment for me, because I always love me some sweet English tears whenever they crash out of a tournament!
*IT WILL NEVER EVER COME HOME!* 😂
The Harry Kane curse
SACK SOUTHGATE FFFFFFFFSSSSSSS
Easy run-in. Lucky to go through against Netherlands. Found out by a proper team.
As usual, manager to afraid to remove kane and under performing established players.
A deserved loss. The best team won. Aaasrrgh
yes we need a Manager who can take us to the next & final level, but until we find a 6 and a keeper that can take care of the ball and release our other players we won't win anything. Pickford's distribution is championship level and Rice is no 6.
Why can Spanish players very effectively play a system outside their clubs but England can't? I just don't buy it.
Just maybe there were better teams that England managed to avoid or overcame. Just maybe the players are not as good as the pundits build them up to be. Just maybe England are better on paper than grass. Just maybe the manager does not play on the field. Just maybe
PIckford long balls not good enough, should be TAA quarterbacking. Kane in molasses, no press. The ingredients are nearly there. Foden an off tournament, should have been dropped already Start Palmer, and give Bowen a chance! WOuld have liked ot see Joe Gomes on the left as he progresses really well standing in for Robertson for LFC. OVerall Not as bad as it seems, beter than many times before. Onwards upwards! (More LFC play style required)
Everyone wants to be a hero in this England team. No one wants to sit back and do the do the dirty work. Clearly they’re chasing personal glory rather than overall team success
The only reason was the trophyless curse on Kane.
Southgate is just terrible no need for excuses and the players clearly don't have the ambition to WIN or else they would've sack him themselves. This set systems that Kloop plays well is a nice excuse but then there's Luis Diaz and Mac Allister that both had an amazing Copa America. Spain shouldnt've have won if you compare the teams 11. England is too good to play this bad and this negative.
Too many excuses, Southgate should have gone after the loss to Croatia. How many times does he have to fail before enough is enough?
Wake up!!! Rice is not that good!!!
For me it's obvious Southgate is far to negative with this group of players he has. We allways hear kyle walker is the best right back but clearly after this tournament we can clearly see he isn't he made so many mistakes through the hole tournament and offered very little going forward. Pickfords distribution is poor. Kane can't run and is far to deep foden isn't a winger definitely played better in the hole but again to close to kane who is basically playing as central midfielders, so like playing 4 6 0. He isn't a manager that goes for the game even I could see shaw was shattered and the midfield wasn't working he should have changed them 10 mins be4 he went to. Then they scored there 2nd, and he reacted with tony. Gordon couldn't get on the field yet would have offered different things to foden, trent couldn't get in at right back even when walker was defending as poor as any right back I've seen but trent would have offered more going forward. He just has no bottle to change away from the starting 11 we have 5 subs and he don't like to use them might aswell have taken 11 players
Southgate should have gone after euro 2021. If he is still the manager at the next world cup I'm not watching. I love England but not under this prat. Kane should have been dropped.
Calling your manager a prat is why so many people have issues with English fans. He is not a great manager. Very true. Insulting him probably won't make a difference 😂
Southgate picked the wrong starting line up from the start. End of
Just play the young kids that play so good at there clubs as soon as you took off the olds they equalized imagine if they had the whole game to play
Would u like klopp as england manager i think he be best for job
Trent would be a liability in defense... as he is for liverpool
Trent hasn't played traditional right back in quite some time for LFC so I'd take that, especially with Walker looking how he did tbh
@laurencemckenna Loz. This is correct, but Trent can't defend like Walker is able to (or thought he was able to). Walker can't attack like Trent can.
Trent excels when he has cover at the back. Trent has no pace. They'd run rings round him. I don't think Southgate has the time or the ability to manage this risk at this stage of the Tourney.
Love the content as always Mckenna!
Every single England kick off was an NFL kick off. I'm not joking, every kick off England had, no exceptions. The highest paid manager at the tournament had his team (pre-tournament betting favourites) doing NFL kick offs. He is not a competent manager. He should start a business hosting team-bonding/team-building retreats and forget about football management. It's not for him. I would urge anybody to go and look at the kick offs (all full replays are available on iPlayer) and tell me this is the product of a competent manager. Embarrassing.
I thought rice had a bad tournament he kept giving ball away shame as he been great for arsenal
8 years of S&M football , Mourinho has delivered ,Southgate has not. If a team is unwilling to create chances , prepared to play rondos and hope for some late inspiration sub ,then you enjoy S&M without the release of last minute ,Roy of the Rovers finish ,it is mental Torture for the majority. Sick and salt into a growing wound of despair, 58 years . We are told we have good footballers, they get wages and live lifestyles well beyond the reach of the majority. The best we have ,we are told . Yet always this disjointed ,knackered style of play, rinse and repeat ,over and over. Occasionally promising better ,but mostly low possession, backward and static compared to the opponents . The last time looked like a team for 90 minutes faded to just moments of individual effort. Long distance endurance and nick it players ,tight ,low block favoured by the teams least able to play football in the leagues.
We should of been kicked out at quarter finals. I want the FA to be blamed. How the F can they look at the last 4 matches where we were awful and only just won by lucky say "Southgate the best! Let's give home for 2 more years!".
did spain have a better player in any position other than perhaps rodri who didn't play in the second half. englands problem is big names pick themsself regardless of how they fit in to the TEAM. england are a brilliant squad but an average team.
Southgate is not a "top" manager. I feel sorry for the players.
Englands best midflieder is a 19 year old.
Thank God english football is finally going home!
I think hardcore football fans knows a lot more about football than the majority of ex players they are not as snobby or arrogant about playing the game as much as these ex players and and the fans watch more football so their knowledge of the game improves all the time. Ex Players are incapable of learning new things stubborn incompetent people.
It's a solid theory. I think most people on TV are just trying to keep their position and so they take less risks tbh.
You didn't offer up Ben White as a possible candidate for ENG's rb?
He refused to work under this managerial team, but surely they're gone tonight.
He's been the best RB in the PL for 2 seasons now & would bring a ready made right flank link up duo, with his clubmate, Saka.
Yeah, I was thinking more what this team had available. White would be great!