The Dynamics of Lelouch and Suzaku (Code Geass)
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Music used:
Song 1 - Hyuga and Kyoshi (Kuroko no Basket)
Song 2 - Bran Bal, The Soulless Village (Final Fantasy IX)
Song 3 - Galahad Fortress (Xenoblade Chronicles)
Song 4 - Not Alone (Final Fantasy IX)
Song 5 - Longfall (Final Fantasy XI)
Song 6 - You Bastards.. Don't You Dare Speak My Sister's Words! (Fire Emblem Awakening)
Song 7 - Bonds of Sea and Fire (Xenogears)
Song 8 - In Memories (Rurouni Kenshin: Tsuiokuhen/Trust and Betrayal)
Sam Lasky’s piece: thestuffstoreofstuff.blogspot....
7TeenWriters’ piece: / spoilers_code_geass_th... - Розваги
Introduction: 0:00 (Lol obviously)
Lelouch’s narrative role, motivations, development and psychology: 4:14
Suzaku’s narrative role, motivations, development and psychology: 18:24
Thematic & Ideological Comparison: 29:48
An Analysis of the Zero Requiem: 31:57
I thought for months that I would never make a Code Geass video, but changed my mind on it recently. And I’m quite happy I did, because I had a lot of fun doing this one. Hopefully you enjoy it too, it was an interesting challenge for a bunch of reasons.
Now, I just need to give proper credit where it’s due, because I definitely had help in making this. Firstly, thanks to UA-camr ShintaiReviews for helping out a little bit with editing the script for this. Also, I should definitely reiterate credit for Sam Lasky and Reddit user 7TeenWriters for their respective analyses on the series, because their ideas definitely influenced this video. In particular, 7TeenWriters’ post on Lelouch and Suzaku was the original source for my conclusion on the Zero Requiem. So yeah, I appreciate the contributions from all of the above.
Shintai’s channel: ua-cam.com/users/ShintaiReviews
Sam Lasky’s piece: thestuffstoreofstuff.blogspot.ca/2016/06/character-analysis-lelouch-vi-britannia.html
7TeenWriters’ piece: www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/2mu5p2/spoilers_code_geass_the_psychology_of_lelouch_and/
Aleczandxr Respect for the links!
Aleczandxr As a psychology major I'm thrive on these types of videos.
You should do these timestamps for your other long videos! Although that would probably be a pain..
Aleczandxr you should do mob psycho 100
Amir Williams Eh, there are enough videos out on it already, I think.
>says he isn't a huge fan of the show
>does a 36 minute analysis on it
Timmers Dude he was joking.
Simmer down Timmers
Timmers- shimmer me timbers
Ya'll just had to go there didn't you? 🤣
Its the same concept as the people that do 1 hour long videos on why Sword Art Online is a rolling dumpster fire of a show. Their interest in the show isn't so much for the show as a whole, but rather certain aspects of it. Like again with SAO, how the premise couldve been done so much better and the terrible writing and uninteresting characters brought down the show. In the case of Code Geass, one can analyze the concepts and philosophy behind the show without having a great love for the show itself.
Personally, I love the hell out of Code Geass (Mostly because of Lelouch being amazing and filling a very unique narrative role) but I can easily see why some people don't like the show as a whole (Bit too much fanservice for my tastes and sometimes the plot stutters for a bit with things that dont really make sense.)
It actually makes the series end horrifyingly tragic if Lelouch lives. He made his world a reality, went past the point of no return, redeemed Suzaku, and succeeded... now his entire legacy depends on him fading from the world into a quiet life, what he described as a slow death when the series started. Suzaku, on the other hand, is now required to live in the spotlight, and to be a pragmatic hero to the world, protecting the peace and crushing any rebellions. The both went through hell to end up in their own versions of hell. Lelouch will never be freed of the purposelessness he felt at the beginning, just as Suzaku will never be freed from the terrible murders he had to do to save lives. Yet, in that, their shifts in character mean those situations which would have been hells to them before because salvation. I guess in this show at least, salvation and damnation really are the same.
The Mad Mystic
“Shifts in character” as in, they change how they think ? They change their personality ? Or is it just the circumstances changing, which makes, like you said, “their individual hells their salvations” (which I understood) ?
And how come Lelouch still thinks of himself as purposeless at the end of the series ? Didn’t he make a purpose for himself *by ensuring a better, peaceful world ?* Or is that, now that his plan is completed, he has no more reason to live ?
And you started your paragraph by implying you’d explain why Lelouch surviving at the end of the series’d be tragic, but I don’t see it; was it that Lelouch’d still be purposeless, but living a pointless, quiet life in the shadows ?
Fuck Suzuku he’s a dick and a traitor
And yet, since he fulfilled C2's purpose he's immortal and doomed to live forever.
The Mad Mystic so would you say that lelouch is a tragic hero
If the implication at the end is to be believed, at least Lelouch's purgatory after his "death" is spent with CC, the only person who truly knew him and who herself only ever sought an end to her lonliness
Another interesting fact about Suzaku is that he can survive entirely off of crayons and lighter fluid.
It’s time to get my Big Mac on
Suzaku in the abridged series is the best. XD
"Come ON! How do you close this thing!?"
:D
spinzakkkkkkuuuuu
“BITE ME BANANA MAN”
Zero is Lelouch’s perception of his father. Ruthlessly charismatic, and willing to do anything necessary to forge a world that they desire, even if it means tyranny. His school persona is his perception of his mother, selflessly caring and always positive. However once he discovers his mother was in league with his father, his perception of his mother changes, and we never see his school persona again.
dude holy shit you just blew my mind
@@zachrubin5044 I literally don’t remember writing this. Wtf is this garbage. Fleya go brr.
Don’t delete, man. It’s a good analysis.
I would add that just as the illusion of his mother is destroyed, so too is the illusion of his father.
Lelouch becomes more sympathetic and understanding to his father’s goals, though he rejects Charles’s methods. This allows Lelouch to eventually conquer his father’s throne and to run the empire better than him.
Not only this but he is finally able to do away with his masks which is why we never see either him in his school mask or his zero mask again. He has finally made a synthesis of the two after breaking free of his idealized image of his mother and his bastardized image of his father. He has overcome his parents which allows him to move into adulthood, and then to defeat Schnizel who he was never able to overcome as a child, and into ruler of the world. He then finally gives up his rule of the world for the sake of his dream. He gains the world but gives it up so that he isn’t conquered by the same concerns as his mother, father, and Schnizel.
By the story’s end, Lelouch conquers all which is what allows his dream to be enacted. Only Lelouch was powerful enough to overcome any obstacle the world threw at him and enact his dream but also generous enough to share his dream with the rest of the world.
Ironically, Lelouch’s dream kills him physically but not spiritually like the other characters. Only Lelouch gains the whole world without losing his soul, because he sacrifices everything, including himself, in order to fulfill his dream. The only reason that the dream doesn’t die with him, as so many dreams do, is because he shared his dream with Suzaku and everyone else.
PS. Sigmund Freud called and complained that you used his theories without citing him
😢
Thank you for addressing the fact that Suzaku turning to Zero was the "death" he wanted. It was a brilliant moment for the show and made me respect the writers a bit more.
Lelouche is a dark hero. A man who forced himself to become capable of doing the difficult reprehensible things required to preform change. Lelouche is batman.
C_Force I think the word your looking for is a revolutionary.
I thought the same thing xD
He's the hero Japan deserves, but not the one it needs right now, so they'll hunt him. Because he can take it, because he's not a hero. He's a silent guardian, a watchful protector, a Dark Knight. lel
Dan Nguyen Yeahhhh sure
Dan Nguyen Dude no one fucking cares its a joke. Just fuck off
Dan Nguyen I don't know anything about batman. I just made a damn meme and your fucking spamming my notifications about it.
Lelouch is one of my favorite fictional characters. He’s just so.... human. He has his faults, his strengths, and he’s so self aware to what he lacks and to what he can do. He forms a mask for his friends and family and uses a different mask for the Black Knights. It’s thrilling to see him and watch his story. He’s not some all knowing being that has no faults. He isn’t jacked up with plot armor that makes him untouchable. His intelligence has limits and he works to overcome them. While his Geass did make him able to do more and do it quicker, I still feel he’d be able to enact his plan with just himself because of his charisma and dedication. He’s a caring human being at his core, shown in scenes with Nunnally and scenes with Suzaku.
A scene that’s always stuck out to me was when Lelouch and Suzaku were in battle together. Suzaku was ordered to hold Zero there and he would be killed in order to kill Zero. And Lelouch, while he says it was because he wanted to live, we know and we see the desperation in him to protect Suzaku regardless of how his truest friend felt against his actions. Lelouch’s pain and sorrow when he thought Nunnally to be dead was so very heart wrenching. It’s obvious he loves his sister and he truly believes he lost his will to carry out his plan until CC talked sense into him. He has real relationships that you become invested in and you root for him and his side regardless of how much you disagree with it.
Suzaku is also one of my favorite characters. He wants to be good. He wants to rectify his wrong doing of killing his father. He wants to change things with the least amount of violence possible. He wants to believe in his friend who he sees so much hate in. He, as well as Lelouch, lose themselves as their intentions and ideals start coming to fruition. Suzaku wants to do things peacefully, he wants as little people to die as possible, why he could not agree with Zero’s plan. When Euphemia was taken control of and died (although their relationship wasn’t given much focus so I don’t see why he was affected so much by her death that he completely changed his ideals) he completely transformed to become the perfect Britannian soldier. He didn’t care who he fought for if they died, he wanted to gain more power so he could help Area 11.
Together the two are perfect main characters. Despite their differences they compliment each other so well. They work together perfectly (as seen during the fight against Schneizel and the Damocles, destroying the Fleija). They are a perfect team and I think they both know this, but because their plans are antithesis of each other but with the same end. For them to put aside their differences and carry out the Zero Requiem is so inspirational. At the time of the Zero Requiem, I feel Suzaku and Lelouch have both come to terms that they aren’t the best of people, that what they are doing is selfish in a way, even thought they are taking the blame for every evil thing in the world, they want to make the world see that anything that could happen, can never be worse than world domination that results in complete dictatorship.
While at the beginning we know that their plans are different and they have different pathways, at the end, their ideas coalesce and become the same, that the only way for them to achieve peace, is to first destroy the faith humanity has left over. To show them.... how much worse things could be.
he is the second most human and real character I know of right behind gutts
The way I see it, neither of them were innocent. Both Lulu/Suzu did a lot of questionable and reprehensible things throughout the story that they deemed were for the greater good and it took many personal tragedies before they learned actual humility. That being said, I believe that deep down, they were also both good people who wanted to make a better world for those they cared about but had different ways of going about it that brought them into conflict with one another. I also see Lelouch and Suzaku as tragic victims of circumstances that were beyond their control who tried to make the best of the hand that they were dealt as well.
I love guts alot. But if you can, can you convince me that he is better written than Lelouch. No hate just wanting to see your points. Because Guts is my fav character ever so i want to have some strong points to my claim
For me I understand why people like him but I but I just can't stand his hypocrisy. That and he ordered the deaths of children because he was feeling emotional. And there is what happened to euphy ( I know it was an accident, But like his best friend I find it hard to forgive him).
The ending to Code Geass is my all time favorite within the anime art form. It ties everything up, and is insanely cathartic.
Untill the he became alive again 🙄tht messes up all
@@Yashpal-wr2pf that non cannon or alternate universe and it is good fan service too
@@Yashpal-wr2pf that was made in an alternative timeline. Along with the three movies.
@@zethroodwood9572 I believe that it was implied that he somehow survived in the original series and secretly lived on with CC. At least the fans who ship them like to think so.
@@Elly3981 It's mostly because people believe he got Code from killing Charles because he was able to show Nunnally his memories right before dying.
I absolutely loved how you built up to the conclusion about the Requiem all throughout the video. The little bits of foreshadowing and evidence for Lelouch’s intention, awareness and sacrificial nature along with Suzaku’s deathwish, guilt and need for atonement all gathered in momentum to make your point about the Requiem extremely powerful, great job.
Contempt Man that was his zero requiem.
@@h1ko393 *does chuunibyou pose
Someday we’ll realize that we are like Suzaku, at some points of our life, primary when at our deepest point, we could be so confused, so frustrated, so full of anguish on ourselves, constantly self-loathing, because our past mistakes. We seek help, guidance, mentor- everything to free ourselves from those pains inside our chests.
For some reason I absolutely HATE the fact that Ohgi of all people got a happy ending......
Just my silly opinion...
Yeah he betrayed lelouch for good sex pretty much.
@@classicslayer456 I mean, can you blame him?
I mean in SRW Z, Ougi would betray Lulu in the normal end and Wufei, the buttmonkey of justice, of all people calls him out on it. It's weirdly satisfying to have Wufei call out Ougi on that.
I’m so with you! And be became Prime Minister, of all things! I was so mad about that.
Really? I didn’t dislike ohgi. He was just kinda there. And it made sense why he betrayed zero in the end. It’s cus who wouldn’t be mad that they’d been manipulated and played and used like a mere chess piece at the end
This video was great, thanks for this
I never hated Suzaku, so I loved this analysis. Didn't relate both their narratives, and it was a great point to see. I loved the series so much for the requiem, one of the best endings I ever saw, and now I love it so much more.
Glad you like the video, and that I enhanced your enjoyment of the ending!
Vinícius Chaves That Ending was Great not gonna lie
And then came Lelouch of resurrection.
My favorite anime of all time discussed by my favorite anime analyst? My god I’ve never clicked a notification so fast.
Great Video yet again! (I hate to hear that Code Geass isn’t a great show in your eyes, but while it’s my favorite, I’m fully willing to admit that it’s far from perfect, and nostalgia likely helps it to maintain its place at the top of my list. Regardless, excellent analysis my good sir!)
Thanks! I love the concepts and ideas it tackles and I love Lelouch and Suzaku, it's just that the presentation and execution falls short for me. Like I said though, I still think it's a good show. Just not a favourite.
Aleczandxr I sort of agree with you I think the show is great in Season 1 but at Season 2 I think that’s were it disappointed me there were really good moments I just wish there was more development for the Side Characters and the beginning of season 2 was so confusing it took until episode 2 of season 2 for them to focus on that cliffhanger for the season 1 finale. I thought the cliffhanger was good but the execution didn’t really lead up to anything Lelouch Sister got replaced by a Character That was working for Lelouch dad I forgot his name he’s the asshole that killed Shirley and what Bothers me the most is Kalleen was there at the Cliffhanger scene for season 1 I might be wrong I haven’t watched Code Geass in awhile but after the cliffhanger the only reason Kalleen was there was so she can find out Lelouch was Zero if you remove her Character from that Scene completely it would of made no difference whatsoever.
Aleczandxr I was also Disappointed for the lack of Development Shirley Got after she lost her Memories she Barely gets any screen until a episode or 2 before her Death which was really well done it actually made me cry I just hate when Anime Shows make Characters lose their memories for another and it doesn’t really progress the plot whatsoever.
The Anime Dude I’m Excited for Season 3 But I honestly would of been fine if they ended it at Season 2 let’s be honest the Ending was pretty similar to Death Notes ending except Lelouch plan actually was successful unlike Light Yagamis.
I just finished the fucking show two days ago LOL.
What a perfect fucking timing.
I appreciate the disclaimer, and I'm glad that you were find something you were passionate enough to talk about in this show even if you didn't love it overall. It's a favourite of mine but it's definitely FULL of flaws.
Bobby Zamora there's quite some flaw.Not really full of flaws.
Bobby Zamora Every Show Has Flaws nothings Perfect
I never said shows don't have flaws. But this one has a notable amount relative to how well it's done critically.
Bobby Zamora When I First Started to Notice The Flaws was at the Beginning of Season 2 After Season 1 Cliffhanger Before that I would say the Show Was Pretty Great.
Bobby Zamora It's weird how it's evident that there's so much thought put into this show and yet there are moments that are completely fucking stupid
Another quality video! Frankly, I was hurt by the bit in the introduction where you go out of your way to explain how you actually hate Code Geass and think Zero's a stupid name, but I almost forgot about it thanks to the near-40 minutes of nonstop Code Geass analysis.
Almost.
Seriously though, glad to see one of my favorite anitubers tackling one of my favorite shows.
-Zero
Kato Zero is a great name!
not to mention its a brilliant one.
*and think Zero's a stupid name*
LOL.
Glad you enjoyed it pal.
He didn't say he hated it. He said it had some flaws that made him enjoy it less than he might have. Maybe I'm speculating, but I doubt he'd have done a nearly 40 minute video on a show he hated.
You're right.
-Zero
Isnt Zero an implocation to the numbers system of Britannia and Zorro?
I'm so glad to see someone acknowledge Suzaku has a character with depth instead of just "a raging cock of contradictions" (that's a real quote). He's such a huge focal point of the story, and the perfect foil.
I'm gonna go check out 7TeenWriter's piece now! :D
Suzaku's got definite depth, and even MORE if my theory about his reaction formation was correct. Who knows about that, though..
Aleczandxr masking a video about code geass?!
2018 is starting off right!
funny enough since it is the year Suzaku "died"
David Crespo It is also the year Lelouch "died"
I'm watching this in 2020 A.D.
@@JapanFreak2595 wait, Suzaku died, when , where and how.?
Ramon Bennett-Ryuuken the date of death on his grave stone. Presumed dead, but taking up the identity of Zero was symbolic of Suzaku being dead to the world.
Thank you for the captions and the timestamps.
You really make it easier for your fans.
You deserve the best from us.
No worries whatsoever!
I feel like this fits very well: As the great Logarius once said, "Acts of goodness are not always wise, and acts of evil are not always foolish, but regardless, we shall always strive to be good." - Bloodborne 2015
am I the only one who loved Suzaku? his development is insanely good.
Definitely not lol, I wouldn’t have made a monster video like this if I didn’t love Suzaku.
25:15 and on in the Suzaku part is a brilliant theory, I’ve never thought of him that way. Probably because I don’t know anything about psychology, lol.
I thought so too, it's a genius idea. Not sure if it's true, but it would make sense.
Zero Requiem was a perfect Concept. Creating the Symbol of Piece and destroying the Symbol of Hate in one Action.
Zero kill Lelouch. Great.
When you finally mentioned that Zero Requiem was the redemption Lelouch placed on Suzaku, I cried. Lelouch really was a selfless person, and anything he would do for both Suzaku and Nunnally.
EXTREMELY appropriate use of the track "Don't Speak Her Name" from Fire Emblem Awakening.
My personal FAVORITE song of the ENTIRE Fire Emblem series and maybe all of gaming.
AND you used it on a video about my number one ranked Anime.
Nigga, I love You.
I remember sometime last year when you asked if I'd use it in one of my videos! The day has come.
Aleczandxr worth the wait.
Couldn't have done it any better
*All Hail Lelouch INTENSIFIES*
Absolutely nailed it and gave voice to a lot of the reasons why I still love this anime years later, flaws and all. I am one of those who definitely feels Code Geass' successes far outweigh it's flaws.
Thank you!
I enjoyed the differences between Lelouch and Suzaku mainly because Lelouch was willing to do questionable or even "evil" ones from outside means to change the world whereas Suzaku tried doing it from the system inside before realizing how many problems it has. This even makes me think of Suzaku's mech, Lancelot, named after a knight of the Round Table. Suzaku tried being honest and idealistic in his endeavors in the beginning whereas Lelouch had distrusted using legal, more safe means to achieve his goal.
I also have problems with Code Geass and one of those happens to be the school antics, but what this video is talking about and the character of Lelouch and Suzaku may have well been the best thing Code Geass could offer outside of its mere concept.
*I also have problems with Code Geass and one of those happens to be the school antics, but what this video is talking about and the character of Lelouch and Suzaku may have well been the best thing Code Geass could offer outside of its mere concept.*
I agree that their dynamic is by far the most well-executed and interesting thing about the story. The school stuff is something I might have enjoy in isolation, without the context of the rest of the story. Not sure. Who knows.
How does he think he can chance the system from within, (without killing anyone),in a dictatorship?
It was really just wishful thinking, something he tried to cling to to escape the pain of murdering his father, and trying to hold a moral high ground above Zero. In truth, if he had been honest with himself, he probably would've seen the naivete in this sooner and may have even defected to Zero's rebellion, but as Aleczandxr noted, he doesn't, well, not until far later on.
No, Suzaku wanted to become the knight of one. The knight of one get to rule over a state of their choosing. Suzaku says this in R2 to Lelouch.
The school antics are there to show lelouchs human side and his struggle. Later in season 2 its a bit weird but in season 1 it makes sense for his character.
This might be the best suzaku analysis I've ran across. I keep referring to it because it's so good!
Thank you!
>need something to do for an hour
>40 min video by alec
today is my day I guess
They should show these videos in my high school
Great video it’s so hard nowadays to find a code geass analysis video that doesn’t go out of its way to both suck off lelouch and hate on suzaku, don’t get me wrong I love lelouch, but analysis videos, especially those that talk about a character’s ideals, should be non-biased.
I know this is a year old and I’m going off onto an entire other franchise, but I have felt that way whenever people discuss characters who want peace. One of the biggest for me is Duchess Satine from the Clone Wars. She always wanted peace and that is what makes her strong, unlike Anikain who always wanted to win.
Lelouch is my all time fav but Suzaku is very close to him in terms of writing. It's just very hard to get behind him because Lelouch is so easy to root for
I have always loved Code geass for raising interesting questions like"do the ends justify the means?", "which is the correct approach to change the world? ", themes like "Armed rebellion vs Non-violent protest/accepting the system" and others like racism, class conflict and corruption. That was a great analysis video. Now u have to analyze the shit out of the other iconic CG character. The best anime girl- NINA EINSTEIN.
I really appreciate your analysis of suzaku. I knew he is hypocritical and is hated for his flaw but I never understood why I couldn't fault him for it. This puts into word exactly why he should be celebrated for his flaws, not hated for it.
Honestly I don't see why he is hated for his hypocrisy when Lelouch is Celebrated and called a hero for his hypocrisy.
This is why I don't get fans of Code Geass.
It's not a show about awesome robot fights and dramatic schemes. It's not a fun escapist series. It's one about conflict and ideals.
And Suzaku, especially in the first season, was the PERFECT antagonist to Lelouch and gave the narrative complexity. There is no Code Geass without the Lelouch-Suzaku dynamic.
Yeah that's exactly it. I mean Code Geass has some awesome Robot Fights (we're talking about studio sunrise so..) but that takes a backseat to this grand portrayal of ideals and conflict
Gosh, I could listen to your voice for hours! Besides the great content of all of your videos I´ve seen so far, I think you have such a great narrator voice and the way you phrases your sentences is a real pleasure :D Sorry if this sounds weird, but for real, one of the reasons you´re one of my favourite youtubers is, because I enjoy the way you talk so much!
Lol, that's not weird! That's a great compliment, thanks so much for saying so!
Aleczandxr Listening to your videos at night is so relaxing. I did it recently and fell asleep halfway through
Leaky Peach not sure if that's supposed to be a compliment
Constantin Klose I swear it is😅
I tried falling asleep to this, but I couldn't because it was too interesting
That ending clip showing Suzaku lending a hand to Lelouch in their childhood. At the end of the series, Lelouch symbolically lent his to Suzaku. That's nice.
How in the world did he lent his hand to suzaku. He condemned him to a life of loneliness and self hatred. That's not exactly lending someone a hand.
Great analysis! I never expected Code Geass analysis from you .So it was a gift nonetheless.Thanks for doing it.And you just made me more hungry for more videos like this.
Btw Code Geass is one of my favorite anime and
Best characters of Code Geass:
1)Lelouch
2)CC
3)Suzaku
And those who never understood Suzaku's characterization will only hate him.
Amin Rosli Its not what girl you or me prefer.
Its about a whole "character "
He had great HxH vids and im so glad he touched on code geass
CC?
I would love to see a video on Nunnally and Euphemia detailing their respective effects on both Lelouch and Suzaku.
“The only ones who should kill, are those who are prepared to be killed.” Suzaku and Lelouch both take that philosophy and branch off so beautifully.
A new Aleczandxr video??? BOOYAH!
And it's of my favorite anime!
Son of Tiamat Oh is it? Good choice; I was wondering awhile ago why you asked me my thoughts on Code Geass and funny enough Alex summed up my feelings on it rather well.
Yeah, it's a good analysis. I'm half convinced the writers of this show were also channeling Nietzsche. Lelouch is an Overman by the show's end.
Son of Tiamat Pretty much, the writers knew there stuff. By the way, what's your thoughts on Berserk? That's my favourite anime and manga.
Never saw it, and I don't read manga
>code geass
>aleczandxr
ye boi
Back when I was thirteen the first time I watched it I was so blown away, I really couldn't understand and till this day I can't get why this anime is not as praised as Death Note or Evangelion,. On the other side, aside from the character design, I hardly find any criticism either. What are your thoughts on this, Alecz?
En5vy Nothing is perfect nor Death Note or Evangelion.
They have some fatal flaws tbh.
So does code geass have some flaws.But its a great anime nonetheless.
I’d say it’s on a comparable level of praise. It’s rated better than Death Note and Evangelion on MAL, for example. But I think that it’s more flawed than either of those two.
En5vy It is as praised as that. It's one of the most praised and popular anime ever.
What's so bad about the character designs I thought every character was distinct and they're design told you something about their character.
The movies
*WHY ARE YOU BUYING CLOTHES AT THE SOUP STORE?*
well, I just checked out your entire channel, you got beautiful content, man i really cant believe how i actually found myself binging on ur playlist. Keep em coming, u earned urself a follower mate
Cheers dude, much appreciated.
you just made code geass better for me
Awesome.
All hail Lelouch
Dude, it's crazy. the way you break down these characters is helping me putting into words how I feel in my own life. I could never fully explain what or how i was feeling but you have nailed it for me. Thank you!! Keep it up!!
You're very welcome!
That was absolutely brilliant and an amazing review of these great characters
Thanks very much!
Ok, 2018, so far so good! Yet another absolutely wicked analysis, bruv, this channel is honestly one of the best out here, not to mention Code Geass is one of my favourite anime series. Keep up the good stuff, bruv
Before i watch this video i just want to say Thank you for all the effort and thought you put into all of your video for someone like me who doesn't know who they are and what my place in this world these kinds of videos lets me keep calm and change my view on things especially myself and for that i just want to thank you from the bottom of my heart. I hope you have a fantastic 2018 and may the best fo luck be with you
Thank you so much, I'm very glad that the videos do that for you. All the best for you in 2018 as well!
Yeeeeeeessss 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 I needed a Code Geass video from you. I didn't realize I did until you did it. I clicked sooo fast. Goodness, how I have missed your videos! I definitely need to watch your most recent vids.
This was BRILLIANT. Code Geass was one of the shows I got into that held deeper themes back when I was just beginning to be a critical viewer. Even then, the dynamic of Suzaku and Lelouch stuck out to me. I thoroughly enjoyed your take on it and Im so grateful that you decided to spend time and effort on a series that you didn't love. Your supposition of Suzaku's character was eye opening. I never thought of it like that, but now I do. Excellent insight into his character. Also, thank you for reiterating the point that Zero Requiem wasn't about Lelouch 's redemption. From the very beginning, Lelouch planned to die. He, like any great revolutionary seeking change in the world, never expected to see that change in his life time. His revolution was for the country, its people, and its future. Goodness, I could go on about Lelouch, and Suzaku. I love them dearly.
Thank you, so much for this video!! It was good hearing your voice again! Time to look through your other works!
P.S. I couldn't help but compare the journey of Suzaku and Lelouch to that of Griffith 's. All three had similar aspirations, and had a utilitarian viewpoint which drove them to commit unspeakable evils. Just some food for thought.
Wonderful analysis, again!
Haha, well I'm glad that it reminded you to watch my recent stuff! People have been asking me for a while to do something on CG and I didn't really have the drive to do anything about it, but I spontaneously decided to go for it and I'm glad I did.
*Your supposition of Suzaku's character was eye opening. I never thought of it like that, but now I do. Excellent insight into his character.*
Thank you! The theory struck me during my rewatch in preparation for the video. It's just a theory from a psychology nerd but it definitely fits him and reocntextualizes a lot of his actions and behaviours, especially some of his stuff in late R2. Good point about Griffith as well, I hadn't thought about that, funnily enough.
Sorry for late reply, but...
"Kallen, when this is over, will you then return with me to Ashford?"
Great video. At the time I watched it code geass was one of my favourites of all time. I have watched a lot more since then but I still have a soft spot for the series and Lulouch is still one of my top protagonists. Thanks for the great work, I look forward to more.
Thanks very much!
Great and in-depth analysis, can’t believe I’ve only watched it now. Definitely subscribed and liked!
Coming back to Code Geass since so many years. I loved this video. Thank you for taking the time to make it.
You’re very welcome!
I just wanted to say I love the soundtrack you used. When the fire emblem track played I nearly jumped out of my seat from excitement
I think one of my good friends phrased it best. it’s an epic tragedy. even when things seem like the might go right, it normally falls apart. and the only way Lelouch could accomplish is goal is making himself a villain and then having himself be killed to unite everyone. it’s a beautiful show.
I love the clip you chose to end the video with. Seeing the symbolism behind Suzaku needing to help Lelouch reach the top of the hill blew my mind!
Yessss, Code Geass is my favorite anime and Ive been waiting forever for a video on it
Alright , you have now become officially one of my favourite youtubers! Almost 40 minute analysis about Code Geass? What else should we ask for? Your videos are exceptional!
10 years later, and this anime and Lelouch are still my #1 favorites. Love them above all others.
Your final words are well chosen and basically summed up the whole show. Furthermore I really like how you give them the necessary time to sink in and by that give the audiece to fully comprehand them.
Damn, this is a really good video analysis, one of the better ones I've seen in a while. Subscribed
Thanks.
You have a ridiculously deep understanding (or opinion) of the show. For this, I am a little surprised you haven't done a video of Parasyte. You must have heard of it surely? I absolutely recommend it.
Thank you! And I’ve seen Parasyte but I’m not interested in doing a video on it.
i don't think i'll ever get over the ending, losing half of a whole, all of those loved watching on but knowing what needed to be done. but at the same time i feel like that's why it's so damn good, so effective, why i can't be mad at it. even if it makes me sad to no end code geass was just a masterpiece istg, if any other show tried to do an ending like that it'd be a dumpster fire
Been waiting for a code geass video for a while! Fantastic analyses as usual and keep up the great work!
Thanks a lot!
Yesssssss! I have been waiting for a long time for this, thanks my 2nd favourite UA-camr
I really liked this deep dive into these 2 very prominent characters. People never gave Suzaku the credit he deserved, in the end he himself learned the most out of the course of the whole show, he became Zero in both mentality and goal by the end. I sort of viewed Suzaku the same way as Eren from AoT, they're both shounen protagonists inside seinen shows.
If the setting was in a shounen show, Suzaku's ideals would have probably worked, but CG is seinen and it shows. It took Suzaku a long time to realize this, and his characterization showed his development from highest to their absolute lowest. He's just as complex, if not more complex than most characters, his story was mired in self-hating tendencies, hypocrisy and self aggrandizement which to me, made him the most flawed person in the show, but also the most human.
When lelouch said obey me world, but requested god to stop the march of time. Hes the most humblest character.
He requested god to keep the march of time running, though. His father wanted to stop the march of time.
JoniWan77 yeah
Man, I wanna cry. I missed your analysis of my number two anime...I’m so happy. There’s so much depth to this series
Really impressive video. You made a lot of points I had never even considered. Thanks!
Thanks for the subtitles :)
when Lelouch and Suzaku work together, those 2 truly are unstoppable
Perfect timing, I had just rewatched the series. Glad to know that the lingering realizations I had were more fleshed out and articulated.
Excellent video, as always. Thank you
once again a great analysis! as the series progressed i felt that both lelouch and suzaku both learned from the other. lelouch learned that to truly change the world you have to focus beyond ones own desires, which lelouch did but not at the expense of them but found a way to achieve both. suzaku learned that achieve true change you must be willing to make decisions that are necessary and accept the consequences of those actions without becoming indifferent to those consequences
Thanks! Like I said in the video, I don't entirely think that Lelouch taught Suzaku that - I think it was something that he believed but had repressed - but I could easily be wrong of course.
the beauty of this anime is that some things are left just vague enough so that the viewers can come to their own conclusions
Wow! What a milestone! 69,000 subs!!!
The characterization you made of Suzaku here is one if the better ones I've seen, very nice.
Haven’t watched the video yet, but I love your videos and I’m sure this one will be great. SO HAPPY you made one for one of my favorite anime
Well, I'm glad I was able to finally cover your favourite then!
You may not be a fan of the show but I am, I watched it in my middle school days and had crushes on Lelouch and Suzaku but I just love their dynamics. Thanks, the video was intriguing. I miss this show to pieces! Loved it to my heart's content~!
MUAHAHAHAHA CALLED IT 😂
I asked you some weeks ago if you were planning doing a code geass video and you said no. Turns out you actually covered one of my favourite animes. Thank you. Keep up the good work, love your vids.
I lied, hahahaha.
Aleczandxr Ahahaahahah thanks 😂👍
Loved that one mate :) Keep it going. Its nice to see how other people see things :)
Cheers.
And with this you just became one of my favorite UA-camrs ever because Code Geass is my favorite anime and I am so happy you wanted to do an analysis on Lelouch and Suzaku because their dynamic is extremely pivotal for making the show what it is. I particularly appreciate the study on Suzaku. Even though Lelouch is best guy and my favorite anime character of all time, I always felt that Suzaku had just as much depth and complexity as Lelouch. It's nice to see an analysis intricately stating Suzaku's hypocrisy while at the same time explaining why he is the way he is without completely bashing him. This video was a real treat for me to watch. I appreciate you taking the time to make a 36 minute video on these two characters. I hope when the third season comes out you might be willing to take a look at these two again to see whether what occurs adds more to their established character arcs or tears it down to build something new. Best wishes to you! Happy 2018!!! :D
Well thank you so much! I agree that the Suzaku section is the best part of the video - he is as good of a character as Lelouch for me, and has a lot more nuance than people give him credit for. I'm really happy that you enjoyed the video so much. I can't say that I expect to make any videos on R3, but no one knows at this point so anything's possible. Cheers!
You're welcome. :D His section is really thought provoking, especially your statements about how Suzaku actively wanted to appear better than Zero/Lelouch and his obsession with looking honorable. I had never really thought much on that aspect of him before. And whether you decide to do anything with R3 or not, I look forward to watching more of your videos. Thank you for your hard work. :D
The way you characterized Lelouch as an anti-hero prepared to do anything it takes for the sake of his utilitarian goals greatly reminds of me of Kiritsugu and I was very much surprised at how scarily similar those 2 really are.
Great video dude. It was very fun listening to ur in depth analysis of the 2 characters. I feel like u understood Suzaku's character very well and gave him the credit he deserves instead of riding his hate bandwagon. I kinda knew what u would possibly say about Lelouch but u made some interesting points I didn't think about earlier. Like when u said he didn't want forgiveness or redemption. In my viewing I thought he sought both redemption and just get the job done some way or the other before he kicked the bucket. Ur points about Suzaku were great tho. I had thought of him similarly myself but never could properly put it into words or express it myself.
Thanks! Glad it was valuable.
You touch on everything I’m thinking about in anime crazy keep it up man great great content
Thanks dude!
8:20 I did not think u would cover this, bro ur videos are amazing
I've never watched code geass in my life, but the first 60 seconds are such facts that I feel like it changed my life 😂
When I read the title of the video I thought this was going to be an analysis of their relationship as both friends and enemies of each other, but this was about their individual motivations and ideals and the contrasts between them. It was great though I was hoping to hear more about the evolution of their relationship with each other rather than their differences as individual characters. Because I find it really interesting how despite trying to kill each other and betraying each other, Lelouch still thought that Suzaku was the only person he could turn to when it came to saving/protecting Nunnally, and Lelouch also thought that when they were together, they could accomplish anything. The push and pull between them is imo one of the best things about Code Geass.
The evolution of their relationship is pretty self-evident, I think. Not worth stating what’s readily apparent, IMO.
Aleczandxr Woah, I didn't think you would read or reply to my comment so this is a pleasant surprise.
To me it wasn't that self-evident and I kind of felt that it was overlooked because of the hate for Suzaku but that's okay, your video is still great.
@@Aleczandxr true, but it wouldve been nice to hear u touch on it a little for the people who didn't see it so apparent ! Great vid otherwise
@@exosslayagemakesantiscrysa1629 hahahha i was literally shook too, i came to his channel from his great HxH vids and then i saw he covered my favorite anime😭
The Power of Kings nice to hear it's your favorite anime too 😭
The background is VERY appropriate! Cudos to you sir.
Always wanted a nice long analysis of Code Geass, nice to see you doing it! Maybe some more will come, if nothing else then from hopefully inspiring other creators.
Well you won’t see any more from me unless R3 ends up being phenomenal. But I imagine there will be more CG content popping up as we get closer to the third season.
You make me feel intelligent by liking anime cause you point out the deep meanings inside of the plot lines and character development it’s amazing thank you for making me feel good 😂
Lol, well no problem! Thanks for watching.
I believe your attitude toward this anime actually helped to laser-focus your critique of it instead of succumbing to skewed perspectives due to rose-colored lenses. I respect that, and enjoyed your video all the more for it. Keep up the good work. :3
Thanks!
awesome vid dude!
Thanks!
Holy shit! Just stumbled on this video and I'm probably going to love it.
Code Geass is my favorite anime and this video is a whopping 36 minutes!! I'm going to enjoy this, thanks for uploading!
Hope you enjoyed!
While it's pretty clear in the story that Suzaku becomes the antithesis to what he hated Zero for, Lelouch also flipflops when it becomes convenient for him at least once in a very crucial part of the story. At the final confrontation with his father, it is finally revealed to Lelouch what the truth of his father's actions were by sending him and Nunally to Japan. He comes to find out that his father sent them away out of necessity to keep them safe from V.V.. His father's intentions were good as he wanted to save his children from death by V.V., however he did it in a way that traumatized Lelouch and drove him to hate his father. As someone who was a believer that the ends justified the means, he was very quick to decide that that sort of logic wasn't something he was okay with when he was the victim of it. He rejected his father for what he did, exclaiming that "You abandoned us!" even if his intentions were for the better.
This isn't to say that what Charles did was excusable but only to point out something I don't think I've seen anyone ever notice. Lelouch stays steadfast in his way of thinking only up until he is a victim of his very own belief.
@@trulymrword yup, thank u for saying this. Charles could care less about others let alone japan so him sending him and nunnally away did prove ay good intentions his father had. Literally gave me chills Lelouch countering his dad talking about nunnallys blindness or her smile.
As Lelouch points out, that intention was not followed with conviction, and Charles was perfectly content to forsake them just like he did the world if it got in the way of his goals
Of course, Charles also believes that none of it matters because they'll all be together in the end anyway, but then that just makes the initial act of 'kindness' towards them the contradiction instead
I litrally can't stop crying whenever I think about the Zero Requiem. For some reason, whenever I meet self-sacrificial characters part of me just can't accept that and simply wants to know if they could have lived. It is blinding naivete in its purest of forms. And then, there is the more mature part of me that smiles and cheers for them while they die, because I also know what they are doing is ultimately good. And the way this comes out is me babbling like a baby with a dumb smile on my face. This was an excellent review. Glad I found this channel.
Yet another fantastic video my good man
Thank you!
Just earned a sub for Don't Speak her name (And the Death note analysis's. And the analysis videos in general.)