Cape Town ETC dissects the water crisis
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- Опубліковано 23 лип 2024
- We look beyond the screaming headlines and cocoa conspiracy theories and asked Cape Town's water experts to unpack the causes of the drought in the Western Cape, how we got here and how we can survive it. It turns out the situation is really dire, but there's no reason to panic.
Brilliant work - documentary standard video - we need more of these - thanks
This is all you need to see. ua-cam.com/video/d605rM0U3x0/v-deo.html
Desalination is too costly?!?!?! How much will it cost when Day Zero arrives and people start complaining of thirst? What's going to be the economic impact when businesses have to close early to comply with water restrictions? What about the medical and hygiene ramifications when water becomes scarce? A desalination plant takes years to build and certify, not including the environmental studies and permitting process to get through the legislative and judicial systems. If planners and experts are serious about addressing the water shortage, cost will not enter into their lexicon.
Agree, This issue is not today's issue but a past issue... Today, This is a crisis.
The main issue with Desalination is that most companies want to make a quick buck on this. So i think the city want to pilot a few of the project. I believe it's from different vendors and then chose the most economical ones from there.
We have to insert the Cost of things unfortunately because this will open-up the gate-way for Corruption. We all know how that goes.
desalination is an expensive process to do in large scale. It's very energy intensive, as a result, your options are to do it by burning coal, gas, or oil (all bad for obvious reasons), or nuclear (clean and capable, but massively expensive). Renewables won't work, because even if you generate enough power with them to do it, you need water every day, and you won't get the same consistent power output out of those to do it.
The politicians were aware of this problem but did not have the political courage to tackle the issue in a big way, now there's no time left. I mean, it's a hard sell on a complex system of a price tag in the many hundreds of millions of dollars, not something to get elected on, so no one deals with the problem.
Nice video, I hope you guys get rainy days soon...
I've seen a photo of newspaper article from the Cape Times, Thursday, April 26 1990, that warns that Cape Town will run our of water in 15 years if something isn't done. Anthony Turton explains in a UA-cam video that he's been pleading for the problem to be addressed for years, but they did NOTHING. When he tried to get the facts to the public so they can put pressure on the government, they SACKED him. Capetonians, get your facts together, get out in the streets and fight for your rights. There's no reason you should be living in substandard conditions. Name and shame your Incompetent Government. The world needs to know how Pathetic they are. Haven't you learnt from all those electricity black-outs?
This is interesting - can you post it the article - please - 1990??? We have been wasting our water so much since then - Some Capetonians have been really bad at overuse - even now - but there has been radical denial amongst the groups talking in this video - I think we can all pull together to meet the crisis - and perhaps this is what it takes to get enough people to trigger
You have the right to be able to use water, for heaven's sake, it's normal all over the world! People are blaming themselves and each other when only the government is to blame for not planning and not providing the infrastructure necessary for water supply. Look up the interview on UA-cam: Western Cape water crisis is man made - Prof. Anthony Turton, by SABC Digital News. Unfortunately I can't post the newspaper article here. I saw it on Twitter.
Indorm I was 10 days old when that article was written! You mean Cape Town has faced this problem 28 years?!
Those were the first warnings that went out after a study by the university of Cape Town. South Africa's water policies and water infrastructure are way behind time and insufficient, because nobody cared when experts pleaded for solutions. The rest of the country is about to follow. Prof Turton said we are about to crash and we have to brace ourselves. I'm not in the country, but I'm desperately worried about my children who are in CPT.
Indorm Wow. :C I just informed my mom about this issue. I live in Phoenix, Arizona (a REAL Desert), and we have lots of water for all 7,000,000 people. In Cape Town, SA, Day 0 comes on my 28th birthday. When that happens, what will people there do? There's plenty of other things to drink, but all other services will be gone. Even power plants will not function anymore! Power plants need water to function.
City of Cape Town should take advantage of the current global liquidity in financial markets and issue emergency bonds to fund the desalination plant.
You could probably use the shade netting although not sure of the efficiency
Why don't they just use sea water for washing, hygiene, and toilets, and then use the fresh water only for drinking?
The salt and brine generated will destroy our pipelines
In Hong Kong in the 1950s seawater was introduced for flushing toilets. Since 2015, 85% of toilets in Hong Kong flush with seawater
Yes this is possible but the system was unpopular due to the need to build a separate plumbing network in each house. Similar to Solar costs, who will pay the bills ,; the Government or resident directly? Mind you, In Hong Kong the Seawater initially was sold to resident and then 20 yrs later got subsidized. THAT'S 20 YEARS !!!
Leonard Carr in the plain my bru
Great city government, fine example of how unity in the community works and S.A. as a country is gold standard for the world of there style of political system.
This will be very interesting experiment ,technicaly ,socialy ,economicaly.
This will benefit many other places in the world like for example L.A. Water is wasted everywhere in the world .It is insane that people need 100 gal.a day.
I lived on a yacht for 15 years and very comfortably lived on 100 gal a week and "wasted" water. But the agriculture wastes most of the water.I can not understand why the farmers do not just copy how the jews manage the fields in Israel. No problems there . That is why we have a head on our shoulders.But some people only have a head without brain.
Well the rant , sorry the rand is plunging as well. The Caribben , not everywhere , but where governments are doing the job in managing the natural resources it is mandatory to build a c cistern or to have tanks to collect rain water. I also think people tend to always blame someone but themselves. I have my water supply coveted for one year and my crops on drip irrigation .It does not cost much and was easy to do.If a nation is just waiting for a disaster to happen and not doing anything then let them eat the fruits of their ignorance packed into one rant.
Why don't you ask the people realy in charge for this chaos all these questions???
Graham-Tec systems in Somerset West is a world wide leader in desalination. Last week the Grabouw farmers donated 50% of the water in their huge private dam to Cape Town.
I am praying for rain
I hope the next cold front will flush the Cape in shape .
Wait until water crisis gives way to health crisis.
Cholera outbreak on the way to hit my already burned state hospital. Yeah - the big one in Cape Town. We don't have the beds and we don't have the mortuary space.
Could cloud seeding help our cause?
Permaculture needs to be used asap. If not, this problem will only spread to other places across the planet.
The government was warned in 2007 that this may happen. They knew and did nothing. This is what happens if you leave fools in charge of a coutry.
Gideon De Jongh dude,the DA had a to make a plan 2007 already .
Of course fcking hell and now 4 million people are paying the price for this fckup and among them are children and old people. This is beyond stupid. How much more incompetent can the DA and the ANC get. They are the 2 leading parties. Come next year i don't know who to fcking vote for neither can be trusted to do their fcking job.
Gideon De Jongh to tell you the truth I too don't know who I'm going to vote for.I think I'll rather vote for EFF😂
No fcking way they want to take land of farmers that produce our food. Don't trust them either. I asked my dad and he said this has nothing to do with the DA, he said the central government are in charge of providing funds for the build of dams ect. All the local government do is distrubution. So this all comes down on the head of the ANC fcking hell. They had 10+ years to come up with a plan and to work with the DA. So the ANC in their arogance are putting 4 million people at risk.
Gideon De Jongh DA wanted the western cape and got it,from there onwards they had to do their utmost best and be the party that doesn't always complain about the negatives of the ANC but to focus on governing a province .the DA is good for looking faults in the crappy ANC party ,that they forget to make the lives of the people of W.C a life worth living
DESAL. Emergency and long term. Step it up, please.
Let's deal with problems 'when' they arise hur dur
Why does desalination work in the desert country of Israel, but it’s seemingly impractical in South Africa?
We don't have huge supplies of oil and fuel, one can't power a desal plant with coal or solar, it's highly impractical and not possible, not forgetting to mention the environmental impact is disastrous, they actually worsen drought long term.
Taariq M-Star 616 Saudi Arabia has a solar desalination plant. I understand that power production my be problematic but the country can use wind or hydroelectric as well.
I was speaking about solar powered desal in South Africa is impractical, since the space required is ridiculous, it's practically impossible considering the infrastructure requirements. Saudi Arabia is a desert country with vast amounts of space and sunlight.
Solar energy generators are as well not very efficient, due to vast amounts of waste materials generated in the industry and large amounts of land required, while wind generators have terrible effects on wildlife and the eco-system. Desalination as a whole is a terrible idea, it poisons the environment and worsens the very droughts meant to be alleviated, the scientific evidence is available online. Why allow a natural resource meant to be available for all to be centralized, privatized and incorporated, causing our citizens to pay 100 times more for water than they do already? This in our economy is not possible. Especially for the lower and middle class.
Saudi Arabians are a rich country and its citizens do not pay taxe hence they do not have to fork out a cent for this technology, whereas it will be completely unsustainable on our economy in South Africa or Western Cape for that matter. The impact on their ecosystem is another story since their agriculture is being destroyed by desal plants. Many do not realize this.
Why imploy such inefficient methods when there's such vasts amounts of ground water, highly efficient eco-friendly methods to treat the millions of tons of sewage being dumped in our beautiful ocean's and especially when nature itself, organically desalinates our water for us?
ua-cam.com/video/AQis6QlWDaQ/v-deo.html
Saudi Arabia also sits a lot closer to the equator (higher solar panel efficiency). It also takes a long time to setup a plant that can produce for a whole city. Tapping into aquifers in the immediate vicinity to the dams probably means that they will use the infrastructure of the dam to pipe water into the cities. It makes sense, but it can cause long term problems. In California, the ground is sinking about two feet a year. Honestly, working a good grey water usage system would be a very idea.
German company called cloud Fisher is windproof to 120 kmh
If 35% of the people are abiding by the rule, according to the stats in this video, what's happening to the other 65%.( have they just go t( Carte Blanche ) I find this ludicrous. I suppose it's a case of certain rules for certain people.
A water use audit of senior municipal / government staff should be done and brought to light.. also their personal expenditure on water saving techniques and devices for their own homes..
Cape town must come together as a country and pray for rain .If not they will not surfive
If you have a blue gum tree see how much it drips water at night
Real life "walking dead". Imagine 4 days without water and 4 million people exhausted and thirsty. Shits about to get crazy.
Mankind has there plans.GOD has his!!!
Giant ocean! you are surrounded by a limitless supply of water. Desalination is not to costly you just need to chard people for what they use!
Its simple, when you have a country where 9% of the population pays the bills, and a marxist government only intent on putting blame and regulating the 9% instead of creating jobs and expanding the private sector, where believe it or not money actually comes from, this is the natural consequence. Imagine if our important services where privatised and there was competition within the market, do you think for a second we would be running out of water?
Theewaterskloof has excessive amounts of silt, decreasing its volume and raising the evaporation levels. Desalination brings a host of health problems due to the lack of minerals, one only needs to research what's now happening in Israel.
No trees no water
I have an article on my waiting area from 1990 that this was going to happen. New government never reacted. We have wasted mountain water for decades. This smacks of political agenda.
Worse than the inhumane killing of over 6 million people... Really...
3:00 This is the world: options are limited from an economic point, global inhabitants should have used less, solutions are so expensive now.
For sure CT will run out of water. No one is talking about fog capture...on table mountain. ALL Global Warming projections for SA == drier hotter years. So, I agree with JamminLV702. The only question is whether or not civil unrest will result...saying "do not panic we will get through this"...in this video, given the actions taken is utter folly.
Kiters Refuge ua-cam.com/video/AQis6QlWDaQ/v-deo.html
Cloud harvesting super efficient to harvest table cloth on table Mountain
Capetown is f%cked. City management are responsible and the residents of Cape Town are accountable. Complacency and corruption is a bitch.
I would suggest the following solution: ua-cam.com/video/utan3QT3IkE/v-deo.html. Water consumption can be reduced by up to 40%
need to recycle water, in other places sewage water is drank?
eww!
I have an RV which can hold about three days of water, a week if we're careful. Even 100% purity achieved through distillation doesn't overcome the eww factor of recycling the holding tank contents.
Some advocate gray water recycling, which often smells worse than the holding tank when pumping out.
Everyone ignores refrigeration condensate, which is just dumped on top of fridge compressor motors, or RV roofs from air conditioning units, several litres a day of fairly clean water which could easily be pumped through a ceramic filter and into the freshwater tank.
Maybe fractional distillation is the answer, maybe water from shit will be more palatable if we get a little biofuel too...
Are you telling me CT is dumping its raw sewage into the ocean? What a waste of (potential) wealth. ua-cam.com/video/Z2w2vvI3Nnc/v-deo.html
Have a look at the link below and see how it harvest clouds 100 of thousands of litres a day
Can't countries with limitless fresh water like Canada, Ice Land, Greenland and Russia not load it on super tankers and sell it by the barrel like the middle east sells oil? If countries buy oil for $70 a barrel is not $35 for water a steal?
Peter Flower a great deceiver he is someone not to be believed. Cape municipality knew long enough about this problem. The escalation of cost is something cape municipality should be blamed for. They incompetent a total disappointment
California has a very similar climate to the Western Cape. We've had five years of serious drought since 2011. We've had one wet year (last year) and are now back in a very dry pattern with high pressure parked over us during what should be the wettest part of the year. We know that this isn't a "1 in a 1,000" occurrence because we can look at tree rings of the large conifers that live 1,000 years or more to see that droughts like this are actually very common. I would wager that the Mediterranean climate zone of South Africa would be similar if you had means to look back in time (so to speak) to see it. Also, if you can't survive three years of serious drought you're obviously not planning as well as your experts in the video claim you are. San Francisco gets almost the same annual rainfall as Cape Town and its no where near close to running out of water. Los Angeles gets even less. This could go on for another five years and they still wouldn't run out. That's with using way more water per person. No, this sounds like public policy failure more than anything.
This guy is an establishment shill.. Why is no-one talking about the 'Reclaim Camissa' research that has been done!? There are millions of litres fresh water running in tunneled rivers and springs in CT! ua-cam.com/video/9LjU42_eqc4/v-deo.html
"Caron thus started an initiative 8 years ago to Reclaim Camissa but at every turn in attempting to move forward with an innovative non-profit public benefit initiative blockages have been put in her way. It would seem that the City of Cape Town local government officials are the stumbling block and it would seem that some people somewhere in the council have smelt a business opportunity and wish to now rob this non-profit initiative of their years of work." - Article link below:
camissapeople.wordpress.com/2013/06/16/reclaim-camissa-the-struggle-to-save-our-water-heritage-beware-of-the-greedy-tjommie-brigade/
I quote a reply by the CoCT on a Facebook comment regarding the Reclaim Camissa research:
"The City has explored in detail whether 69 identified springs on Table Mountain could be incorporated into the drinking water system, and has found that this water would only be able to service a tiny fraction of the City’s water requirements.
The City does currently produce 2,8 million litres of drinking water per day from the Albion Spring in Newlands, and has recently commissioned a new project to produce approximately 2 million litres drinking water per day from the Oranjezicht Main Springs Chamber. This has been done under existing water licences.
However in the case of other springs it has been found that flow is too small to justify the cost of staff and infrastructure required to treat the water to drinking standards. In the interests of ratepayers the City must ensure that augmentation schemes offer value for money. Procuring greater volumes of water could be done more economically, for instance via aquifer abstraction or the treatment of wastewater, and the City is rather pursuing these options.
In terms of the unused spring water , the City is exploring whether this water could be used for non-potable purposes such as irrigation, as this does not carry the same associated infrastructure costs, and would also take pressure off potable water reserves. The City has applied to the National Dept of Water and Sanitation to authorize the City to use the water in this way. Thank you."
Cape Town must rise up against its government oppressors or suffer the fate of these people. ua-cam.com/video/d605rM0U3x0/v-deo.html
They have an agenda to use Israeli Desalination technology. That is why they are discrediting local desalination technology companies. It is about narrow party political agendas and not about the people of Cape Town.
When this water-crisis ravels out the Jacob Zuma era will be like a small glitch in a computer programme corrected by the coming Cyril Ramaphosa Era.
Blame citizens? That is your default stance?
You dont have bargaining power for desal when you are in crisis. Too late. Too little.
Cape Town is screwed
White Master Mariner Screwed since the Boers and Brits arrived!
The result of new chemicle's introduced from 2012 and geoengineering and the spraying these high flying planes have done all over the world.
I noticed the back ground; your water has been stolen by the clouds in the sky, and with the help of HAARP, more chemicles and some satalites and look out below; somewhere will be receiving 3 feet of rain.
Cost to global weather modification currently $60 million a day, under the NASA contract; chemicles made by USA ; causing the death toall plants, animals, insects, fish, waterways, an oceans.
USA has brought death from all different fronts; including your food packaging; GOD BLESS us ALL.
At some point it doesnt matter who did what because that doesn't fix the current problem,Capetown people think the bucket way of life is beneath them whislt 90% of the country have been living in that way of life for centuries.When people are told to save water ,all you hear is we pay for it so we will use it as needed.Blame yourselves if you still have pools running and bathing baths,watering gardens using sprinkler etc .
Nomahlubi Mkhwanazi I understand your message and your point is taken, but there is a valid reason to worry about why this has occurred, why people should demand what they pay for, why 90% still do not have improved services, why we don’t have a bigger middle class contributing to services. Yes current abusers of water should be called out, but blaming those who bath or other uses of water is a socialist tactic, same way Chairman Moa use to publicly shame people instead of taking responsibility for his politically ideology and failure. No one I know refuses to use a bucket but they absolutely have the right to wonder where a big percentage of their hard earned money has gone, and how for example our president gets to build a R280 million home where we can’t properly educate a child. We need to demand more from our government or reduce governments role altogether and privatise everything for everyone’s sake. Never be ashamed to demand what you’ve paid for and certainly don’t accept second best. If we cannot even secure basic services for our nation, what’s our future.
John Armstrong your statement is 100% true but you know things won't change because the people at the top are in denial no matter how much we demand .The water crisis was seen coming for more the 20 years but funds for it are all of a sudden unavailable,it's a messed up country in that even if you demand what is yours all it does is disadvantage another ,the is no winning.Solution the sooner we start voting for educated people instead of who sings the loudest maybe then things will change but then again i highly doubt that will even be a possibility any time soon.
Agreed, thanks for the comment. Heres hoping, so much potential in our land.
Sad really , since hope is all thats left when faith is lost .
Cape town doesn't have a water problem. It has a Government problem. The government is creating this crisis to gain total control. Kind of like what happened here. ua-cam.com/video/d605rM0U3x0/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/AQis6QlWDaQ/v-deo.html
Itll be fake or man made WE LIVE ON IN GODS EARTH SURROUNDED BY WATER.THIS IS MAN MADE.
Abrupt climate change y'all...live it up!!
During the Sydney, Australia water shortages in the 2000's we were on strict restrictions, but my bloody next door neighbor would go out after midnight EVERY night and wash their three cars with the hose despite being dobbed in to the water patrols by everyone around her.
People are F@#$ selfish!
I do not want to ofend anybody , but Cape Town which is certainly not rated a third world country will run out of water.(Unless it rains) The public was aware of the looming shortage.What was done ? Have any laws been past to limit the use of water in the agriculture sector ? Any law to
make water tanks of 3000 gallons obligatory tp install ? with tax break. What is more important ? Exporting South African wine or the supply of drinking water to the 4 million people ? Perhaps a big contract to a South African desal Company will be signed soon. In any case I personaly like to be indepenant with my cistern and solar arrays.You should never rely on your basic needs from outside sources only
South Africa is a Shithole. It is clearly 3rd world.
so global warming kicks into the western cape first before any other country on the planet.
Before 6000 years ago the Sahara desert was green , do we blame the few primitive people around back then on that? You can't beat mother nation when it makes a direction change.
FFFFFFFucking DA not limiting the farms to keep their rightwing votes !
planetaryobjectives.wordpress.com/2018/02/02/cape-town-is-drying-and-indian-cities-will-be-next/
You never saw anything like this under apartheid.
I heard they turned down Israels offer to voluntarily help them.
israel has its own problem.
What does that have to do with anything?
israel gets welfare check off 5.3 billion from the us + UN aid.
Again what does that have to do with them turning down offered aid from Israel?
Take your pills
You could get on your knees and beg the Israelis to help you. They know a little something about lack of water.
easy to solve
just cut of the water for the 60% that does not pay
problem solved
Peter Flower is an idiot. He is talking all bullshit. They have been exploring stuff as per his limited understanding and the city is suffering. The problem is huge, it has just begun from Cape Town. Asia and Africa are going to suffer.
Wow blacks have done an amazing job have they not?!
And still the city won't own up to their wishful thinking, the experts predicted, yes they did, the city didn't want to listen, they were way to comfortable with their perceived abilities, now own up so we can actually face this. Stop trying to put this on the population not saving, I can just as easily say it's the city not providing, does the city really want to play the game of pointing fingers? They really don't have enough fingers to play this game.
This video is bullsh1t
agreed!
Thanks for wasting my time I smell bullshit 🖕
Wow, another white people are being killed on farms conspiracy theorist.