Have been using this for years now and the cutter is the slow part replacing the cutter head helps but because the trimmer speed is the same on all four stations, this operation takes the longest. It’s accurate to less than .001 from your first to last case though and I’m quite pleased with mine.
Fortuitous timing. Mine showed up yesterday and this video alert popped up on my feed today. I blinked and 2022 left me with 400+ 6creed cases to prep to continue coyote season in 2023. I turned my first half dozen on my old forster and immediately went to Midway to look for a better time saver and ended up getting the Frankford Arsenal. I set it up in about 20 minutes (the reverse thread kept getting me as I dialed in trim length) and had to cleanup the mess from trimming 250 cases less than 30 minutes later. Very solid and consistent product. It makes things far less daunting when I stare at a bucket of brass that needs prepped.
I’m very meticulous & I am extremely pleased with mine & I would recommend this trimmer to anyone. Switching to the RCBS, cutter head was a worthwhile improvement.
I just bought one and so far love it. I used to prep by hand. Also use the bottom section of the lyman hand trimmer to hold the brass. Helps with fatigue when doing numbers.
Bought mine a month or so ago. If anyone wants to know this WILL do .338 Lapua cases. Also, you may see a disparity in case length since this unit does trim off the shoulder of the case. If anything, should be awesome for uniform bearing surface between the neck and the bullet. Love this thing.
When I started reloading almost 20 years ago, I bought a Lee Zip Trim. It still works well, but seems to be discontinued. I would probably give the trim centre in this video a go when my zip trim wears out. Oh well, progress I guess. Stay safe and happy reloading.
I bought one years ago, and used it for a while. And now it is gathering dust. Not that it doesn't work. But for a low volume reloader, it is not needed. It is probably more suitable for high volume reloaders.
I agree that case prep is the most tedious part of reloading. Right now I'm doing all these steps manually. If I'm looking to shoot sub-MOA groups with my 6.5 Creedmoor, is this case prep tool an option? I seat my 140 ELD-M bullets for a specific COAL that produces the tightest groups for that particular powder load.
Great video Sir. I have a question off subject though if I may. When annealing bottle neck cases, should I let the cases relax for a couple of hours before full length resizing. Thank you for all of your informative videos. Andrew Thatcher.
Fine for what some people call "plinking ammo". In my world the over all case length is from the base to the mouth. Won't use anything that cuts the case while registering off the shoulder. JMO.
If all your cases have the same base to shoulder dimension I don't see why trimming registered off the shoulder would matter. It may be even better because neck length may be more uniform. My concern would be if it's an even cut.
After fire forming If you are sizing correctly and consistently I don't see how it would matter in a negative way. My small mind says if it's done right then now neck length is exactly the same which means more consistent neck tension.
I wonder if FA changed the US models to have a metal drive gear instead of a plastic one. I had one from 2017ish and the main gear for the cutter was plastic with VERY fine gear teeth, and some stripped, rendering the cutter useless. I order an EU unit that I got extremely cheap to swap out the whole front assembly (the chord on the motors are different and no converter was working with it), and it was then that I found that the only thing that really needed swapping was that gear, and the EU one had a friggin' STEEL gear. So basically it seems they use to put better parts in the EU models because they don't want to warranty them as often, I'm guessing because of cost of shipping. the gear swap basically makes it bullet proof (even feels better cutting), but I bought an RCBS powered trim pro2 to spare my hands the pain of doing more than 100 casings with the FA unit.
I have a review on one in progress, but they are in a different price class. For the $ this is really a good unit. Anything specific on the Henderson that you think needs covered by my video?
One difference is that the Henderson trimmer indexes from the base of the case, not the shoulder. It would be interesting to examine the implications of each technique!
I agree with your statement, the henderson makes trimming rather enjoyable. Price is up there but it’s so worth it especially coming from a manual lathe style trimmer
Have been using this for years now and the cutter is the slow part replacing the cutter head helps but because the trimmer speed is the same on all four stations, this operation takes the longest.
It’s accurate to less than .001 from your first to last case though and I’m quite pleased with mine.
Fortuitous timing. Mine showed up yesterday and this video alert popped up on my feed today. I blinked and 2022 left me with 400+ 6creed cases to prep to continue coyote season in 2023. I turned my first half dozen on my old forster and immediately went to Midway to look for a better time saver and ended up getting the Frankford Arsenal. I set it up in about 20 minutes (the reverse thread kept getting me as I dialed in trim length) and had to cleanup the mess from trimming 250 cases less than 30 minutes later. Very solid and consistent product. It makes things far less daunting when I stare at a bucket of brass that needs prepped.
The directions say rotate it something like 1/2 turn to help keep the trim even. I do 1 full turn. Love this thing!!
I’m very meticulous & I am extremely pleased with mine & I would recommend this trimmer to anyone.
Switching to the RCBS, cutter head was a worthwhile improvement.
I just bought one and so far love it. I used to prep by hand. Also use the bottom section of the lyman hand trimmer to hold the brass. Helps with fatigue when doing numbers.
Definitely a huge time saver. Had mine for a few years now and works just as well as the day I bought it.
I'm up to about 5000 cases on this device but getting the RCBS carbide cutter is an absolute must.
Good stuff. Mine has worked well on all my brass.
I bought one a few months ago. It sure beats the snot out of doing all the prep work by hand.
My wife bought me one for Christmas. I love mine.
That was very thoughtful of her.
I've always used fa trim cnt. Great tool for case prep. Highly recommend.
Bought mine a month or so ago. If anyone wants to know this WILL do .338 Lapua cases. Also, you may see a disparity in case length since this unit does trim off the shoulder of the case. If anything, should be awesome for uniform bearing surface between the neck and the bullet. Love this thing.
I was wondering about that
I've had mine for well over a year now. Money well spent.
When I started reloading almost 20 years ago, I bought a Lee Zip Trim. It still works well, but seems to be discontinued. I would probably give the trim centre in this video a go when my zip trim wears out. Oh well, progress I guess. Stay safe and happy reloading.
This thing looks like a chunk of Star Wars hardware, I like it!
I bought one years ago, and used it for a while. And now it is gathering dust. Not that it doesn't work. But for a low volume reloader, it is not needed. It is probably more suitable for high volume reloaders.
It works great, works best setting it straight up, working from the top.
Now if they'd just make a compatible triway head...score!
Excellent.
I like the lyman version because it is oriented upwards.
I agree that case prep is the most tedious part of reloading. Right now I'm doing all these steps manually. If I'm looking to shoot sub-MOA groups with my 6.5 Creedmoor, is this case prep tool an option? I seat my 140 ELD-M bullets for a specific COAL that produces the tightest groups for that particular powder load.
Great video Sir. I have a question off subject though if I may. When annealing bottle neck cases, should I let the cases relax for a couple of hours before full length resizing. Thank you for all of your informative videos.
Andrew Thatcher.
Fine for what some people call "plinking ammo". In my world the over all case length is from the base to the mouth. Won't use anything that cuts the case while registering off the shoulder. JMO.
If all your cases have the same base to shoulder dimension I don't see why trimming registered off the shoulder would matter. It may be even better because neck length may be more uniform. My concern would be if it's an even cut.
After fire forming If you are sizing correctly and consistently I don't see how it would matter in a negative way. My small mind says if it's done right then now neck length is exactly the same which means more consistent neck tension.
I wonder if FA changed the US models to have a metal drive gear instead of a plastic one. I had one from 2017ish and the main gear for the cutter was plastic with VERY fine gear teeth, and some stripped, rendering the cutter useless. I order an EU unit that I got extremely cheap to swap out the whole front assembly (the chord on the motors are different and no converter was working with it), and it was then that I found that the only thing that really needed swapping was that gear, and the EU one had a friggin' STEEL gear.
So basically it seems they use to put better parts in the EU models because they don't want to warranty them as often, I'm guessing because of cost of shipping. the gear swap basically makes it bullet proof (even feels better cutting), but I bought an RCBS powered trim pro2 to spare my hands the pain of doing more than 100 casings with the FA unit.
I seen someone made a 3d printed straight wall case adapter wonder how well those work.
What type of of consistency did you find? (+/- .001”?)
Can you trim .300 Blackout, and 5.7x28 cases with this?
You need to check out the Henderson case trimmer. Single biggest time saving reloading device I own. Blows the Frankfurt away.
I have a review on one in progress, but they are in a different price class. For the $ this is really a good unit. Anything specific on the Henderson that you think needs covered by my video?
@@BoltActionReloading Just that it's awesome. Seriously saves me more time than anything else. Cheers dude! Love your videos.
One difference is that the Henderson trimmer indexes from the base of the case, not the shoulder. It would be interesting to examine the implications of each technique!
I agree with your statement, the henderson makes trimming rather enjoyable. Price is up there but it’s so worth it especially coming from a manual lathe style trimmer
that is a $800 tool, vs a $180 tool.....i would certainly hope its significantly better tool given the cavernous price difference.
Do you have to trim every time? And do nickel casings need to be reloaded different than brass casings?
Does the pocket uniformer do the same thing as a swager?
No. A swager removes a crimp from a case where a uniformer cuts the pockets to a consistent depth.
BAR
can you swap out one of the 3 prep tools for a nylon brush for polishing the inside of the case neck?
@forcerecon-yes u can
I have had mine, for many years now works very well. It's for the guy who is gonna shoot between half inch groups and quarter inch groups.
How do you control your COAL if the brass is trimmed using a shoulder index instead of the length of case?
@@tc6818 by FL sizing before trimming.
I love mine
Mine is ok. But the shaft of the chamfer tool wobbles.
Anyone tried .303brit?
This vs Lyman?