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excellent... I remember my time at Berklee and the teacher explained how we "needed" to know this stuff, specifically going up the full major and minor scales in chords and triads. You've totally made that lesson stick even better, thanks! But I miss the blue Strat!
@@beneunson You have a gift for teaching .. much better than lots of online instructors.. you make complex theory(at least it sounds complex) instantly understandable.. Thanks.. !
Ben you covered so much in such a simple way! It takes other instructors years and many lessons to cover the same material. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us. You’re a natural teacher!
About I, IV and V containing all the notes of the scale, that's always true. Assuming that I and V are always included, the only other option for major is I, ii and V. But that's just I, IV and v in mixolydian mode.
Very interesting. One thing I also picked up on was your picking hand at 4:00 is incorporating 3-4 fingers, simultaneously, much like a fingerstyle acoustic guitar player. I'm always amazed at how guitar teachers tend to focus squarely on the fret hand and other things, but rarely ever discuss what they are doing with their other hand. Thanks for the lesson!
I just learned all the triads in E minor and their 3 inversions and the first thing I was able to do with that info was writing a classical piece. I don't play fingerstyle. I know very little about composing classical music. So yeah, this stuff is super useful. I feel like many genres use this kind of thing. I know my scales but this is infinitely more useful to me. I had written all this stuff out which had taken an hour. But it's worth it. 3 ways to play 7 chords in a key.. that's 21 possibilities. Plus the traditional bar and open chords you already know. It's so freaking cool.
I avoided learning the triads for years. About twenty to be exact. Idk why but i had made it up in my mind it was too hard even tho i knew all 5 scale positions in my sleep. Finally decided to learn about two months ago....was a game changer for soloing. I finally sound like i know what I'm doing instead of just noodling.
This is,, what I always tried to say my guitar-students. The thing is, if you try to keep your thumb under the neck, you need less strength to press the fingers on the fretboard. Personally I play mostly Bach on the guitar. Apparently It is an unbelievable phenomenon, that guitarists without classical education mostly play the guitar without the thumb under the guitar neck and play like god's. (English is not my mother tongue). Kind regards Albert
its refreshing to see a good guy playing clean after all badass metal faces :D, i am a kind into all styles so open for experiments with all sounds and styles even :D
Hey, just found this channel. Love it! Great lessons. I was curious to know the model/make of the guitar? I love the tone and look of it. Cheers again 👍
A silly question: the primary triads contain all diatonic notes (Cmaj=CEG, Fmaj=FAC, Gmaj=GBD), so what is the difference between restricting to playing the primary triads and restricting to playing the C major scale?
Thanks for your question Tom. The difference is that you're playing Arpeggio/Chord Tone-based ideas derived from the C Major Scale, as opposed to just playing the C Major Scale up and down. If you're focusing on any of the 7 diatonic triadic arpeggios that can be found in the C Major Scale (including primary triads I, IV & V), you'd be taking an arpeggio-based approach, as opposed to a standard scale-based approach. Hope that helps!
@@wesleyAlan9179 Ha, sometimes these instructors get a bit carried away. I started playing acoustic guitar at 7 y/o, then electric at 12 y/o, and boy O boy the skill involved in learning this instrument... I see why people tried to sell their souls for a shortcut.
Yep, great ideas to break peeps away from scalar business. It's funny whenever I hear certain combinations of spread triads I always think of Eric Johnson. Was he an influence on you? (I suspect he was)
Hello Ben love ur picking techniqus you don't really talk about you right and left hand technique can you enlighten us on you build speed and precision in your playing
Wow! Ive never seen a Diatonic Triads. Its so helpful being that I've been learning about triads recently. What level lesson would you consider this? Some of this stuff is a little over my head at the moment.
When I listen to lessons like this one, which I think was quite good, I sometimes try to work out in my head what you're playing. When you covered the chromatic approach note a half step below the fifth of the chord, it occurred to me that with the IV chord, this note actually is not a chromatic note. That is to say, it is a note that resides in the major scale of the key signature.
@@christopherlees1134 Without wishing to belabor the point, the common definition of a chromatic note is that it lie outside the scale of the key prevailing at the time it is played. Thus, in a major key, the note a half step below the fifth of the IV chord would not be a chromatic note. Not a startlingly relevant observation, I realize. Just mentioned conversationally and because you appeared to be identifying it as a chromatic note. No offense intended.
@@grinpick All notes that are included in a chromatic line are chromatic notes, including the diatonic notes. Chromatic can describe the function of the notes, not just their relationship to the diatonic.
Thanks for watching! 😃 If a note is classified as a 'chromatic passing note', it does not mean that the note must be non-diatonic. A chromatic passing note is simply one note leading to the very next note chromatically, in this case up a half-step. Additionally, there are only 5 non-diatonic notes in a given major key (Eb, Gb, Ab, Bb & Db in C). A chromatic scale beginning from C will contain these 5 non-diatonic notes in combination with the 7 consonant notes of the C Major Scale. Thus, the example you mentioned - B to C over the IV chord, as well as E to F over the vii chord are both perfectly valid examples of notes occurring diatonically in C Major functioning as chromatic passing notes.
@@beneunson grinpick 1 second ago @Ben Eunson Thanks for your reply. Just a quick question: If I solo over a IV chord using only Lydian notes and happen to include instances of the seventh degree of the major scale being adjacent to a tonic, or similarly, if I solo over a half-diminished chord using only Locrian notes and include instances of the third and fourth major scale degrees being adjacent, are those chromatic runs? Your example of starting an otherwise exclusively chord-tone run over IV with the note a half step below the fifth includes ONLY Lydian (i.e., diatonic) notes. Are you saying that the fact that it begins with a half step makes it a chromatic run? My quibbling is more than just semantic. To me, an improvised run that includes only chord tones has a certain "feel." Some would call it "square," to use an expression from my youth. Throw in non-chord tone notes from the mode that corresponds to that chord and the feel becomes a little more adventurous. Finally, include some non-diatonic notes and the improvisation begins to be a little subversive. To my ear, your examples of opening a run with a half step falls into the third category only with chords I and V. With IV, it lacks the subversive element. This is less obvious when you're just playing exercises. It would be more readily apparent if you were to insert it into an improvisation played over a jazz chord progression. This thread has turned into much more than I intended when I opened it with a simple observation that your chromatic line examples seemed to me to be arbitrarily and inaccurately placing the IV chord in the same category as I and V. Maybe the difference of opinion hinges on the dual meaning of "chromatic" that is introduced when you refer to a "chromatic passing note." I've never considered this term to be applicable to two notes if they're both diatonic. Maybe that's not common usage. But again, to my ear, the effect, the "feel," is different. I'm a little uneasy that the distinction I'm making appears to be relevant only to me, especially considering that I'm probably exchanging views with people who have a deeper mastery of theory than I have.
Great stuff…Subscribed! I may never play this in a club…getting kinda old for that.. But I really appreciate what you bring to UA-cam. It’s like re-learning the ABC’s at 60+!
Thanks for asking, I no longer use Patreon. The material discussed in this video is now expanded as part of my triad course at www.bensguitarclub.com/p/how-to-solo-with-triads - and I also have a membership as part of my youtube channel. Thank you for watching!
i love what you're doing. thank you feedback: the video was a bit dry and slow . keep it going though , i'll continue to watch ! your face is suprisingly expressive and hilarious btw, thank you !
Lovely. Unfortunately I don't want to solo like a jazz player and I don't like too much chord-tone solos (neither in jazz nor in metal or other genres). I studied jazz for years and I loved it, untill I realised I didn't and I just wanted to impress others and feel intellectually superior. However, practicing triads and arpeggios (especially analysing solos) was extremely useful.
I get the point...and I agree. But the wonderful thing about studying triads (closed, open, arpeggios, etc), from my point of view, is that later you have to forget them so as not to sound so "classical music" or robotic. Improvise by singing over a chord progression. A huge percentage of them will be part of each chord!
@danhope77 this is really interesting. so what was the next step, after you relized that you don’t want to solo like a jazz player? what would you say you solo like today? and what in particular did you find off putting in jazz soloing?
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excellent... I remember my time at Berklee and the teacher explained how we "needed" to know this stuff, specifically going up the full major and minor scales in chords and triads. You've totally made that lesson stick even better, thanks! But I miss the blue Strat!
Thanks Wick! I really appreciate you checking it out
@@beneunson You have a gift for teaching .. much better than lots of online instructors.. you make complex theory(at least it sounds complex) instantly understandable.. Thanks.. !
@@g-love6507 Thank you so much! So glad you enjoyed it
Ben you covered so much in such a simple way! It takes other instructors years and many lessons to cover the same material. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us. You’re a natural teacher!
Helps to have the same info explained by different teachers in different ways. Helps it get imbedded into the mind
Ben Eunson... The Mr. Rodgers of guitar instruction, in the best way possible.
About I, IV and V containing all the notes of the scale, that's always true. Assuming that I and V are always included, the only other option for major is I, ii and V. But that's just I, IV and v in mixolydian mode.
That guitar is a beauty! ❤
It is! Thanks for watching!
Thanks for sharing this... You have opened new horizons to my way of playing guitar. God bless!
So glad to hear it! Thanks for watching!
Some of the most musical ideas lie in simplicity. This is a great example of great ideas hiding in plain sight! Thanks for your eloquence Ben!
Thanks for checking it out, Ralph! I really appreciate it!
Love the smoothness
David Becker's book Getting Your Improvising Into Shape is a great example of triads🎵
Very interesting. One thing I also picked up on was your picking hand at 4:00 is incorporating 3-4 fingers, simultaneously, much like a fingerstyle acoustic guitar player. I'm always amazed at how guitar teachers tend to focus squarely on the fret hand and other things, but rarely ever discuss what they are doing with their other hand. Thanks for the lesson!
i.e. hybrid picking
Thanks Ben, this sounds like the major foundation that Trey Anastasio uses in his improv
Thanks Cornelius - and yes, I think you're right!
I had that exact same thought, pleasantly surprised to see this first thing in the comments!
I just learned all the triads in E minor and their 3 inversions and the first thing I was able to do with that info was writing a classical piece. I don't play fingerstyle. I know very little about composing classical music. So yeah, this stuff is super useful. I feel like many genres use this kind of thing. I know my scales but this is infinitely more useful to me. I had written all this stuff out which had taken an hour. But it's worth it. 3 ways to play 7 chords in a key.. that's 21 possibilities. Plus the traditional bar and open chords you already know. It's so freaking cool.
Very important concept that is so often overlooked.
You are playing from the heart
I avoided learning the triads for years. About twenty to be exact. Idk why but i had made it up in my mind it was too hard even tho i knew all 5 scale positions in my sleep. Finally decided to learn about two months ago....was a game changer for soloing. I finally sound like i know what I'm doing instead of just noodling.
That's great to hear you discovered triads! Always an incredible useful material on guitar, thanks for watching!
Great sound and professionally
Beautiful playing and tone!
Wonderful video, thanks! I would love to hear about your approach to picking. The technique you use is wonderful smooth and articulate. Cheers!
Great lesson! 🙏
Thank Rod!
Excellent master!👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Hello Ben..really quick way to explore...fantastic idea/ concept..Best wishes.
Am amazed at your approach..
This is,, what I always tried to say my guitar-students. The thing is, if you try to keep your thumb under the neck, you need less strength to press the fingers on the fretboard. Personally I play mostly Bach on the guitar. Apparently It is an unbelievable phenomenon, that guitarists without classical education mostly play the guitar without the thumb under the guitar neck and play like god's.
(English is not my mother tongue).
Kind regards Albert
Sounded nice. Theory flew by top of my head...
Sir, Mighty Useful Guitar. Thanks!
Thanks for watching!
its refreshing to see a good guy playing clean after all badass metal faces :D, i am a kind into all styles so open for experiments with all sounds and styles even :D
Unique helpful thank you so much
That clean tone in the beginning was tasty!
I have a similar Ibanez semi hollow and a tube amp. My cleans don't ring like that tho...
Thanks so much for checking it out!
Wonderful lesson powerful... I accidentally created a triad song, people really seem to like. your lesson will really help. thanks
Thanks for watching!
Great lesson thank you!!
Great lesson.
So glad you liked it! Thanks
Nice arpeggios bro.
Great Stuff!
Triads make me feeel like I can play jazz now it’s so fun !
excellent lesson. Going to join you on patreon for the full thing
Fantastic! Looking forward to seeing you there
Thanks for the awesome lesson man.
Wow.. awesome lesson...
Great lesson! Very useful even for me as a keyboard player 👍
You just taught me that I hardly know anything, thanks!
tq, it's a new lesson
Awesome my new guitar teacher!
Thanks so much for checking it out!
I've been subconsciously looking for this as a soloing technique for ages. Watching your video made the connection I have been seeking..... thanks bro
I found it usefull for me
This is fantastic!
Fabulous lesson!!!!
Thank you so much for checking it out!!
wonderful lesson, and so melodically pleasant! thank you
Great lesson. Very useful. I've been studying Wes Montgomery and this fits in well. I've got an Ibanez AG 95 which is a great guitar.
Hi
Do you know what model is the guitar above?
thx for this channel ,...wow help me a lot
Hey, just found this channel. Love it! Great lessons. I was curious to know the model/make of the guitar? I love the tone and look of it.
Cheers again 👍
Inspiring, thank you.
Thanks Pascal!
Thanks Ben very helpful I'll try this on my guitar 😊
Thanks for checking it out, John!
With this Guitar have you the best Tone!
Thanks Helmut!
The begining sounds like a kids show opening i love it
Great lesson Ben ! Super useful
Thanks for checking it out!
Thanks that’s what I been trying to learn but kept getting mixed up lol great course
A silly question: the primary triads contain all diatonic notes (Cmaj=CEG, Fmaj=FAC, Gmaj=GBD), so what is the difference between restricting to playing the primary triads and restricting to playing the C major scale?
Thanks for your question Tom. The difference is that you're playing Arpeggio/Chord Tone-based ideas derived from the C Major Scale, as opposed to just playing the C Major Scale up and down. If you're focusing on any of the 7 diatonic triadic arpeggios that can be found in the C Major Scale (including primary triads I, IV & V), you'd be taking an arpeggio-based approach, as opposed to a standard scale-based approach. Hope that helps!
@@beneunson Yes, that makes sense. Many thanks for the answer!
Great stuff!
Thanks for checking it out!
great stuff mate
I can hear Eric Johnson in your play, nice lesson btw.
Totally awesome, no scales, and soon enough no chords either I would guess, just kick ass guitar playing and not knowing nothing. Great!
@@wesleyAlan9179 Ha, sometimes these instructors get a bit carried away. I started playing acoustic guitar at 7 y/o, then electric at 12 y/o, and boy O boy the skill involved in learning this instrument... I see why people tried to sell their souls for a shortcut.
Super òtimo Professor
Thanks for watching!
I loved it, a lot of very melodic notes, not like these dreaded shredders, a thousand notes a second and not one musical, well played.
Yep, great ideas to break peeps away from scalar business. It's funny whenever I hear certain combinations of spread triads I always think of Eric Johnson. Was he an influence on you? (I suspect he was)
Great stuff Ben! Love it. So much you can do with triads
Hello Ben love ur picking techniqus you don't really talk about you right and left hand technique can you enlighten us on you build speed and precision in your playing
Wow! Ive never seen a Diatonic Triads. Its so helpful being that I've been learning about triads recently. What level lesson would you consider this? Some of this stuff is a little over my head at the moment.
Great video. Subbed.
Thanks for watching!
Is something going on with the Patreon? I’d love to access the sheets and longer video.
Hi Ben!!
Great video Ben! Are you offering private lessons at this time?
Ben it's great, do you have tabs
When I listen to lessons like this one, which I think was quite good, I sometimes try to work out in my head what you're playing. When you covered the chromatic approach note a half step below the fifth of the chord, it occurred to me that with the IV chord, this note actually is not a chromatic note. That is to say, it is a note that resides in the major scale of the key signature.
Chromatic lines always include some diatonic notes. It is not a requirement that a chromatic note be non-diatonic.
@@christopherlees1134 Without wishing to belabor the point, the common definition of a chromatic note is that it lie outside the scale of the key prevailing at the time it is played. Thus, in a major key, the note a half step below the fifth of the IV chord would not be a chromatic note. Not a startlingly relevant observation, I realize. Just mentioned conversationally and because you appeared to be identifying it as a chromatic note. No offense intended.
@@grinpick All notes that are included in a chromatic line are chromatic notes, including the diatonic notes. Chromatic can describe the function of the notes, not just their relationship to the diatonic.
Thanks for watching! 😃 If a note is classified as a 'chromatic passing note', it does not mean that the note must be non-diatonic. A chromatic passing note is simply one note leading to the very next note chromatically, in this case up a half-step. Additionally, there are only 5 non-diatonic notes in a given major key (Eb, Gb, Ab, Bb & Db in C). A chromatic scale beginning from C will contain these 5 non-diatonic notes in combination with the 7 consonant notes of the C Major Scale. Thus, the example you mentioned - B to C over the IV chord, as well as E to F over the vii chord are both perfectly valid examples of notes occurring diatonically in C Major functioning as chromatic passing notes.
@@beneunson
grinpick
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@Ben Eunson Thanks for your reply. Just a quick question: If I solo over a IV chord using only Lydian notes and happen to include instances of the seventh degree of the major scale being adjacent to a tonic, or similarly, if I solo over a half-diminished chord using only Locrian notes and include instances of the third and fourth major scale degrees being adjacent, are those chromatic runs? Your example of starting an otherwise exclusively chord-tone run over IV with the note a half step below the fifth includes ONLY Lydian (i.e., diatonic) notes. Are you saying that the fact that it begins with a half step makes it a chromatic run? My quibbling is more than just semantic. To me, an improvised run that includes only chord tones has a certain "feel." Some would call it "square," to use an expression from my youth. Throw in non-chord tone notes from the mode that corresponds to that chord and the feel becomes a little more adventurous. Finally, include some non-diatonic notes and the improvisation begins to be a little subversive. To my ear, your examples of opening a run with a half step falls into the third category only with chords I and V. With IV, it lacks the subversive element. This is less obvious when you're just playing exercises. It would be more readily apparent if you were to insert it into an improvisation played over a jazz chord progression.
This thread has turned into much more than I intended when I opened it with a simple observation that your chromatic line examples seemed to me to be arbitrarily and inaccurately placing the IV chord in the same category as I and V. Maybe the difference of opinion hinges on the dual meaning of "chromatic" that is introduced when you refer to a "chromatic passing note." I've never considered this term to be applicable to two notes if they're both diatonic. Maybe that's not common usage. But again, to my ear, the effect, the "feel," is different. I'm a little uneasy that the distinction I'm making appears to be relevant only to me, especially considering that I'm probably exchanging views with people who have a deeper mastery of theory than I have.
Fantastic eye opener Ben. That's a lovely sounding Ibanez there. Which model are you playing?
Glad you liked it! This is an Ibanez AM153QA
Great lesson 👌 what chord progression are you playing these triads over? Is it the corresponding triad to the chord?
stp plait je peux avoir la version ralenti de tout ses exercices pratique a la guitare
I don’t have one of those rubber pinkies that you have. Any hints on how to rubberized it?
Mantab 👍..
Thank you teacher but I ask you to show chords diagrams for the clarification I don't understand how to play those chords.please!
Thanks for watching! Chordal notation is included in the full lesson on my Patreon. Link is in the description of the video.
Great stuff…Subscribed!
I may never play this in a club…getting kinda old for that.. But I really appreciate what you bring to UA-cam. It’s like re-learning the ABC’s at 60+!
Thanks Frank! So glad you enjoyed it
He just doooeesssnnnttt blink!!
He must be a lizard
Explained in a great concise packaged fashion. Always learning something more about the guitar neck.
I can't find you on Patreon? What is the link?
Thanks for asking, I no longer use Patreon. The material discussed in this video is now expanded as part of my triad course at www.bensguitarclub.com/p/how-to-solo-with-triads - and I also have a membership as part of my youtube channel. Thank you for watching!
Okay I think I get the concept, but how do you physically do this?
What kind of Ibanez is that?
Ibanez AM153QA
What model is the guitar
This lesson not available at the store?
This particular lesson is only available on Patreon 😀
Ben, where can I get this transcription? Is it in a bundle? Thanks
You can get this one on my Patreon: patreon.com/beneunson
The haircut is nice. Keep that.
Can you do minors also?
Now I see where Steve Morse is coming from. Boy, do I suck at guitar!!!
"its fascinating to meet triads" :D, as long os u dont meet them in person in a dark street, its fine :D
A1
🤯
i love what you're doing. thank you
feedback: the video was a bit dry and slow . keep it going though , i'll continue to watch ! your face is suprisingly expressive and hilarious btw, thank you !
Congrats on the haircut
This dude is like the bob ross of guitar
Ben means well (good ) need to contact you
Lovely. Unfortunately I don't want to solo like a jazz player and I don't like too much chord-tone solos (neither in jazz nor in metal or other genres). I studied jazz for years and I loved it, untill I realised I didn't and I just wanted to impress others and feel intellectually superior. However, practicing triads and arpeggios (especially analysing solos) was extremely useful.
I get the point...and I agree. But the wonderful thing about studying triads (closed, open, arpeggios, etc), from my point of view, is that later you have to forget them so as not to sound so "classical music" or robotic. Improvise by singing over a chord progression. A huge percentage of them will be part of each chord!
@danhope77 this is really interesting. so what was the next step, after you relized that you don’t want to solo like a jazz player? what would you say you solo like today? and what in particular did you find off putting in jazz soloing?
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yee hee
We're going to play triads in
*raises eyebrows*
C Major
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