The amount of time you play the game gives you the practice and insight that 90 percent of people will never have. We can try as much as we want but with limited time normal people will never be that fast. I can explain to you how to sweep pick or do triplets on the drums but without the time investment you won't be able to get close
To stay at your analogy: The difference is that he (and other people who don't have the problem) is not wanting to be a good guitarist/drummer without investing some time. Thats the whole point. People are just like "i dont want to read, i dont want to learn mechanics etc. BUT i want to have the same expirience like people who actually invest time." Which would be like "i want shred like Kiko Loureiro, but i only practive once a week".
that's true, even though I don't think this loot sorting takes the amount or type of skill required to be a competent drummer, but imagine the people who are both doing it inefficiently and also aren't getting the repetition he is. Him giving the tips on how he does it can still help improve the experience for a lot of people, even if they'll never be as fast as him
This is a massively underrated video I play on the pc with a controller and didn’t know this was a thing. You’ve just saved me some serious time thanks mate!!!!!
Thanks, this was really helpful. I used to look for stats I wanted, but looking for what I don't want is a lot faster. I only have to read the item power and first couple stats to know if it's gonna get trashed.
I'll tell you the secret to sorting your loot! Step 1: Download and install a game like Path of Exile Step 2: It has all kinds of auto-loot sortings, search etc already built-in since it's launch. Step 3: Enjoy an actually amazing game made with love, instead of pressure for corporate profits.
I think the main thing Wud didnt explicitly mention here is that he's able to so quickly assess if a specific item is good or not is because he has memorised which stats are good for every slot for his current build. The thing that slows me down is having to cross-reference the item I'm looking at against the gear section of maxroll hehe
yes these things take time lol. He probably remembers pretty much exactly what's on each slot he's wearing without looking too. Either way this is probably still useful to people who aren't doing it efficiently already
The compare feature is pretty useful too but I use it sort of backwards. Once I have an item with some of the correct rolls, I look for red stats on new items. Since the equipped item is upgraded it almost always has higher rolls than something you pick up. If an item has several red stats on it that means it has the same attributes but could be more powerful once upgraded, so I stop to read it. This is mostly for later in the game when you are only looking at ancestral items. For example If a weapons has 2 or 3 red stats, I look at it, but if all the roll are green I can almost certainly trash it with only a glance. It doesn't work for all item slots but it's great for others. I don't know if I did a good job explaining but it works well for me.
I do the same, but first use the sort, so it orders them by item power and item type. If it is not higher item power than eqeuipped, I do not even look at it and mark it as junk, unless I need something for an alt. I only salvage legos and uniques, unless gold needed because it disappears very fast.
same. i click the organize button on ps5 (L3) and the strongest item power is always first of each item type so once u check the strongest normally safe to trash rest
I look at item power first, then how much green I'm seeing, then stats as a whole trying to find stats i need, then if I can't decide, I look at how much it's worth and look back at stats to try to see if I missed something lol!
Really enjoy your content Wudiijo. I've gotten pretty quick with my sorting but you said something I felt, but needed to hear. I've been keeping all of these weapons in the 760-780 range because of their 3 out of 4 positive stats but I don't need em. Next time I log on I get to remove at least an entire row from my inventory. Will be such a relief. :D
Mark everything as trash and only occasionally check if it might be worth keeping is the way to go. But it`s so tiring to do. Unlike Diablo 3 where I had distinct visuals and clear readability for really good items. As I´m not expecting any good items at all it doesn`t feel good when I get one and there are very few breakpoints where better gear really impacts the gameplay at all. I went back to D3 and might try PoE until people like you say D4 had it Reaper of Souls moment.
New patch today should help a lot. It's supposed to display stats in same order on all items. Will make comparing or reading items much easier since it will be consistent.
Have you tried it yet? That was ridiculous to have this all stats not sorted by any means. There's too much things to think about. After long day the last thing you wanna do is more brain puzzles. Loot filter would be great 😢
My method for a long time was just to sell everything, because it was all shit. Then I stopped picking up anything at all, which also works. Then I just stopped playing altogether which has been the most effective method so far
The main issue that people are not talking about, is how the stats are layed out in the item window, they're just random everytime, if they were layed out with some sort of priority list we could build muscle memory to scan items faster, this flaw was the first thing I noticed upon release fo the game, its just plain awkward
Nice, thanks dude. BTW when are you gonna do a build video on your Necro? I started a Sever-based Necro awhile back as well and unless I get a great Ring of Mandeln soon, it looks like I'm keeping course.
This is basically exactly what I do, but you're still way faster lol. I'm sure the repetition helps a lot with that, but I'm old too, not as quick anymore Good tips, this will help people with what I consider the most tedious part of the game right now
For new players confused about why you would look for more than 1 bad stat: you can reroll a single stat at the enchanter, but if you have 2 bad stats you are permanently stuck with the second bad stat.
@@Olixer109Eh, plenty of people that don't look at current events for their videogames and just pick it up on a blind purchase. No matter how bad a games rep gets there's always people that don't know or don't care.
i doubt any new players will reach the stage where they have to sort their inventory lol! they prob gonna quit after like 2-3 days of playing this shit game
It's pretty hectic to me that people find the inventory management 'confusing' when it's clearly lazily designed to keep us wasting our time. What if chest peices were larger than gems? What if 2h swords were larger than daggers? Absurd idea, make them all the same sized orange or yellow shaded square. Please go back to D3 or even D2. D4 is so bad man and its making me worry for you bro. How are you still playing?!
I would like to have an automatic system That marks items as junk automatically when I pick them up, following certain rules that I have previously set.
I found a better way to lvl up in NM dungeon when you reach lvl 85+ and has good roll on most items, just not pickup any loot unless it is Unique or Ancestral Legendary. This will save you lot of time from checking the item and TP town to sell them. You can always get a lot of good loot when reach lvl 100 by spam some normal dungeon with high elite count and keep reset it. Normal Dungeon with high elite count like Mercy Reach is better than NM dungeon as you can finish it fast due to lower lvl mob and no annoying Dungeon Affix to slow you down.
Devs need to remove some of the worthless affixes. Some are just ridiculous like lucky hit chance vs lucky hit chance when barrier up. The latter is unnecessary.
Yeah, all nice until you hear the Blacksmith say "Plenty worth keeping!" or "You could have still used this thing!", and you wonder which nice item you have just "salvaged" :-)
i still dont understand why u accually mark it as junk... u can just check the items in the vendor and sell them just the same as u do without doing it at the vendor
he usually sorts his inventory while waiting for ingame for events to play out so he doesn't waste downtime, for example after killing nm dungeon boss and waiting for the bubble to spawn.
Simple solution to D4 inventory management is to go and play Path Of Exile, which has an amazing inventory system. I know PoE inventory comes at a cost for all the cool stuff,, but it is so worth it. Maybe in 10 years D4 will be good,,,, maybe ..
I just hope they realize that it is really boring to pick stuff up from the floor and waste time (even if only a few minutes) every run to check all the junk. In NMDs give us loot (less but better) and gold at the end.
The player shouldn't be forced to sift through this flood of trash in the first place - the game has no meaningful crafting nor optimized itemization where I can make a reasonable guess what is worth picking up and vice versa.
great, now I can mark 'm as don't want them... now getting in my head which stats I don't want.... why are there way more stats that I don't want vs those I do want? sure... remember then which stats, I looked at the overview on maxroll... and then find over 40 different stats I want per item to be different.... great
I have followed you and like your videos since D4 dropped, maybe you or your fans could help me. Can anyone show me how to have fun in end game? I'm a casual but at mid 80s Im just so bored with the grind.
MaKe an alt…. That’s what I do. I have multiple characters around 70-89 and switch off to keep things fresh. I do still enjoy pursuing paragon but it does get old doing the same thing over and over on the same toon. If you switch you will eventually miss the original character.
Take me 2 days from 90 to 100, I switched from helltides to worldboss to NMD's 50, 2 days long 1 saisonal rogue and just stopped the game now it's over no motivation to do something else. D3 had some better mechanics and loot to research. Here 6 rare uniques that they must show to proof they exist the game is no balanced yet, same boss again and again saisonal is chorter than main campaign. I go to poe and will see. I wait saison 2 to see but now battle pass will be need to pay for. 666 platinum's don't give the access to battle pass for season 2 so devs from blizzard are clowns.
I have an even faster way to sort thru all the S that this game will throw at you. Don't play it, it's not a game, it's a time waste, meant to drain your pockets and waste your time. PoE blows this game out of the water.
The amount of time you play the game gives you the practice and insight that 90 percent of people will never have. We can try as much as we want but with limited time normal people will never be that fast. I can explain to you how to sweep pick or do triplets on the drums but without the time investment you won't be able to get close
To stay at your analogy:
The difference is that he (and other people who don't have the problem) is not wanting to be a good guitarist/drummer without investing some time. Thats the whole point. People are just like "i dont want to read, i dont want to learn mechanics etc. BUT i want to have the same expirience like people who actually invest time." Which would be like "i want shred like Kiko Loureiro, but i only practive once a week".
I do t get paid and still be fast looting. It’s more important to us since we are limited.
that's true, even though I don't think this loot sorting takes the amount or type of skill required to be a competent drummer, but imagine the people who are both doing it inefficiently and also aren't getting the repetition he is. Him giving the tips on how he does it can still help improve the experience for a lot of people, even if they'll never be as fast as him
This is a massively underrated video I play on the pc with a controller and didn’t know this was a thing. You’ve just saved me some serious time thanks mate!!!!!
Thanks, this was really helpful. I used to look for stats I wanted, but looking for what I don't want is a lot faster. I only have to read the item power and first couple stats to know if it's gonna get trashed.
I'll tell you the secret to sorting your loot!
Step 1: Download and install a game like Path of Exile
Step 2: It has all kinds of auto-loot sortings, search etc already built-in since it's launch.
Step 3: Enjoy an actually amazing game made with love, instead of pressure for corporate profits.
I think the main thing Wud didnt explicitly mention here is that he's able to so quickly assess if a specific item is good or not is because he has memorised which stats are good for every slot for his current build.
The thing that slows me down is having to cross-reference the item I'm looking at against the gear section of maxroll hehe
yes these things take time lol. He probably remembers pretty much exactly what's on each slot he's wearing without looking too. Either way this is probably still useful to people who aren't doing it efficiently already
I don't want a secret. I want a loot filter.
Soon...
Yup haha
Eh I’m good on that in this game. PoE has way too much loot so it makes sense. Just salvage more.
And mark as "favorite" I've never seen a modern loot game without one
Sound like a child lmao
The compare feature is pretty useful too but I use it sort of backwards. Once I have an item with some of the correct rolls, I look for red stats on new items. Since the equipped item is upgraded it almost always has higher rolls than something you pick up. If an item has several red stats on it that means it has the same attributes but could be more powerful once upgraded, so I stop to read it. This is mostly for later in the game when you are only looking at ancestral items.
For example If a weapons has 2 or 3 red stats, I look at it, but if all the roll are green I can almost certainly trash it with only a glance. It doesn't work for all item slots but it's great for others.
I don't know if I did a good job explaining but it works well for me.
Yes I do the same once I am fairly well geared.
I do the same, but first use the sort, so it orders them by item power and item type. If it is not higher item power than eqeuipped, I do not even look at it and mark it as junk, unless I need something for an alt. I only salvage legos and uniques, unless gold needed because it disappears very fast.
Love you wudijo but the secret for me is not play it till they sort it out 🙈
same. i click the organize button on ps5 (L3) and the strongest item power is always first of each item type so once u check the strongest normally safe to trash rest
The trick is to memorize all the affixes you need especially when 99% of the loot that drops for your build is junk.
99,99% sadly
I look at item power first, then how much green I'm seeing, then stats as a whole trying to find stats i need, then if I can't decide, I look at how much it's worth and look back at stats to try to see if I missed something lol!
Really enjoy your content Wudiijo. I've gotten pretty quick with my sorting but you said something I felt, but needed to hear. I've been keeping all of these weapons in the 760-780 range because of their 3 out of 4 positive stats but I don't need em. Next time I log on I get to remove at least an entire row from my inventory. Will be such a relief. :D
Have off topic question. How you have the yellow circle by clicking with your mouse? What program you use? Cheers.
Mark everything as trash and only occasionally check if it might be worth keeping is the way to go. But it`s so tiring to do. Unlike Diablo 3 where I had distinct visuals and clear readability for really good items. As I´m not expecting any good items at all it doesn`t feel good when I get one and there are very few breakpoints where better gear really impacts the gameplay at all.
I went back to D3 and might try PoE until people like you say D4 had it Reaper of Souls moment.
New patch today should help a lot. It's supposed to display stats in same order on all items. Will make comparing or reading items much easier since it will be consistent.
Hopefully it puts them in an order that helps lol. What if crit damage and crit chance aren't side by side?
Have you tried it yet? That was ridiculous to have this all stats not sorted by any means. There's too much things to think about. After long day the last thing you wanna do is more brain puzzles. Loot filter would be great 😢
Update. The stat priority is completely fucked. It's worse than it was before lmao
My method for a long time was just to sell everything, because it was all shit. Then I stopped picking up anything at all, which also works. Then I just stopped playing altogether which has been the most effective method so far
The main issue that people are not talking about, is how the stats are layed out in the item window, they're just random everytime, if they were layed out with some sort of priority list we could build muscle memory to scan items faster, this flaw was the first thing I noticed upon release fo the game, its just plain awkward
Nice, thanks dude.
BTW when are you gonna do a build video on your Necro? I started a Sever-based Necro awhile back as well and unless I get a great Ring of Mandeln soon, it looks like I'm keeping course.
I actually really like this feature. Marking as junk and being able to instantly sort them is something I wish PoE had. Makes farming so much faster.
This is basically exactly what I do, but you're still way faster lol. I'm sure the repetition helps a lot with that, but I'm old too, not as quick anymore
Good tips, this will help people with what I consider the most tedious part of the game right now
For new players confused about why you would look for more than 1 bad stat: you can reroll a single stat at the enchanter, but if you have 2 bad stats you are permanently stuck with the second bad stat.
New players? You think anyone is picking this trainwreck up?
@@Olixer109Eh, plenty of people that don't look at current events for their videogames and just pick it up on a blind purchase. No matter how bad a games rep gets there's always people that don't know or don't care.
i doubt any new players will reach the stage where they have to sort their inventory lol! they prob gonna quit after like 2-3 days of playing this shit game
@@turtleking9393 stay mad
@@graog123 nt mad. Just sad for you
It's pretty hectic to me that people find the inventory management 'confusing' when it's clearly lazily designed to keep us wasting our time.
What if chest peices were larger than gems?
What if 2h swords were larger than daggers?
Absurd idea, make them all the same sized orange or yellow shaded square.
Please go back to D3 or even D2. D4 is so bad man and its making me worry for you bro. How are you still playing?!
This is what I do as well, I guess I just need to get faster at it.
Play for another 500 hours and you'll be able to. It's because he has the time to do it all day
I would like to have an automatic system That marks items as junk automatically when I pick them up, following certain rules that I have previously set.
I found a better way to lvl up in NM dungeon when you reach lvl 85+ and has good roll on most items, just not pickup any loot unless it is Unique or Ancestral Legendary. This will save you lot of time from checking the item and TP town to sell them. You can always get a lot of good loot when reach lvl 100 by spam some normal dungeon with high elite count and keep reset it. Normal Dungeon with high elite count like Mercy Reach is better than NM dungeon as you can finish it fast due to lower lvl mob and no annoying Dungeon Affix to slow you down.
At the end you choose a system to check the stuff and practice it
the more you play the faster you become
you will also sell your nightmare sigilis if marked as junk! also just make it favourite item instead that I cannot sell or trash
salvage that mate
Wish there was an auction house type feature to sell gear to players
The patch is out. The stat priority is completely broken. They missed the mark again
How is your UI showing 2 active elixers?
I believe one is to escape death or something like that (hardcore only)
Hardcore, cheat death elixir can be used at the same time as standard elixirs.
Devs need to remove some of the worthless affixes. Some are just ridiculous like lucky hit chance vs lucky hit chance when barrier up. The latter is unnecessary.
Yeah, all nice until you hear the Blacksmith say "Plenty worth keeping!" or "You could have still used this thing!", and you wonder which nice item you have just "salvaged" :-)
i still dont understand why u accually mark it as junk... u can just check the items in the vendor and sell them just the same as u do without doing it at the vendor
he usually sorts his inventory while waiting for ingame for events to play out so he doesn't waste downtime, for example after killing nm dungeon boss and waiting for the bubble to spawn.
@@onceuponatimeonearththat much efficiency would stress. E out. But it isn’t a job for me.
Mark as junk teleport to town hit the vendor and back out again. That's why.
@@ThatDawg21 that dont change the fact that the time u use on marking it takes the same amount of time as it would to just sell it
fastest way is to wait till s5 when game comes out of beta
I wait on picking up anything every 25-30 lvls then I search for new gear I like.
Simple solution to D4 inventory management is to go and play Path Of Exile, which has an amazing inventory system. I know PoE inventory comes at a cost for all the cool stuff,, but it is so worth it. Maybe in 10 years D4 will be good,,,, maybe ..
Secret is just salv or sell it all until a filter comes out
Dont pick up anything if you do only look at items you really need.
I just hope they realize that it is really boring to pick stuff up from the floor and waste time (even if only a few minutes) every run to check all the junk.
In NMDs give us loot (less but better) and gold at the end.
The player shouldn't be forced to sift through this flood of trash in the first place - the game has no meaningful crafting nor optimized itemization where I can make a reasonable guess what is worth picking up and vice versa.
great, now I can mark 'm as don't want them... now getting in my head which stats I don't want.... why are there way more stats that I don't want vs those I do want? sure... remember then which stats, I looked at the overview on maxroll... and then find over 40 different stats I want per item to be different.... great
5 more stash tabs please.......
Oh, text you exactly how are you doing? It’s funny. Everyone always thinks stupid for marking them first.
We'll get more stash space in season 6. Don't worry guys
It will all be fixed... in the first paid expansion.
Sell all... Stop playing... Done!
My loot has been under control for WEEKS!
The secret: Just don't loot anything.
my secret is uninstall the game
why even creating content for a dying game
Its dead, move on.
Once you hit L100 there is nothing to do.
Not sure why people just want too rush i take time the game is going nowhere
just sell ur loot cuz there is a 99.9% chance it sucks.
My secret is playing POE
I have followed you and like your videos since D4 dropped, maybe you or your fans could help me. Can anyone show me how to have fun in end game? I'm a casual but at mid 80s Im just so bored with the grind.
MaKe an alt…. That’s what I do. I have multiple characters around 70-89 and switch off to keep things fresh. I do still enjoy pursuing paragon but it does get old doing the same thing over and over on the same toon. If you switch you will eventually miss the original character.
Everyone gets bored around 70 to 80. World tier 4 needs an XP buff so you can get to 100 on more classes and try killing Lilith and do 100 NM dungeons
Take me 2 days from 90 to 100, I switched from helltides to worldboss to NMD's 50, 2 days long 1 saisonal rogue and just stopped the game now it's over no motivation to do something else. D3 had some better mechanics and loot to research. Here 6 rare uniques that they must show to proof they exist the game is no balanced yet, same boss again and again saisonal is chorter than main campaign. I go to poe and will see. I wait saison 2 to see but now battle pass will be need to pay for. 666 platinum's don't give the access to battle pass for season 2 so devs from blizzard are clowns.
I have an even faster way to sort thru all the S that this game will throw at you.
Don't play it, it's not a game, it's a time waste, meant to drain your pockets and waste your time. PoE blows this game out of the water.
Secret? I use this since das 1...its pretty obvious.
But why? I dont get it, why explain manual sorting lol -- Automation is your friend it sucks that it is not in this game.
Don't play the game then you don't have to sort it
game is so shallow that i dont see a point of this video i mean do casuals realy need this much help - even for that?
bwahaha the first comment on the video is the same comment i was going to make = D4 TRASH!
D4 trash
I quit playing this teriible game. All problems solved!! Last epoch keeps me enjoyed atm and d4 is just a disappointment!
I know a better secret, its called uinstall button