The Face? - Poor Christmas? (Unknown song from 1987 - first time original recording in full length)

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  • Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
  • One of my most searched songs, which I have been looking for, among other things, via my homepage www.dedinidevil.de for many years. The band could be called The Face/ The Faith or The Race. The title "Poor Christmas" or "Your Christmas". On the homepage I had provided only an excerpt. Here you can hear the song in full length for the first time.
    I recorded it in October 1987 in Germany - either on Radio ffn (Lower Saxony) or HR 3 (Hesse). The direct songs before and after on my cassette were the following:
    1. Stepping Razor - Latin Tears (Uncle Sam Is Coming) (must have been ffn, because the song got a lot of airplay there)
    2. the Loft - Why Does The Rain?
    3. The Sound - Iron Years (must have been ffn as well, because it was also played a lot)
    4. The Cure - Just Like Heaven
    5. Momus - Flame Into Being
    6. The Leather Nun - I Can Smell Your Thoughts (Remix)
    7. Cetu Javu - Help Me Now
    8. Boytronic - I Will Survive
    9. Mr. Mister - Something Real (Inside Me/ Inside You)
    10. Ryūichi Sakamoto & Iggy Pop - Risky
    11. Bryan Ferry - The Right Stuff
    12. David Sylvian (from the LP "Secrets From The Beehive", released as a single only in 1988)
    13. Kate Bush With David Gilmour - Running Up That Hill (Live The Amnesty International Concert)
    Also at the same time I recorded another unknown song: Base Bazaar or Bates Bazaar with "Trip To Rio." Here I have also re-digitized the original recording ( • Base Bazaar - Trip To ... ).
    Maybe this information will help to identify the two titles.

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  • @lostwavefinder587
    @lostwavefinder587 Рік тому +143

    how on earth are there no leads at all for this glorious piece of music

    • @mistaegg2639
      @mistaegg2639 Рік тому +12

      it dont ):

    • @lostwavefinder587
      @lostwavefinder587 2 місяці тому +1

      @@thekaraokekitty0 it's not fucking OMD 😭

    • @misifuparapresidente8777
      @misifuparapresidente8777 2 місяці тому +2

      There is a song registered on BMI called Poor Christmas Tree, could it be related to the song we are looking for?
      Sorry for my bad English, I'm using Google translate.

  • @cheeselamps5662
    @cheeselamps5662 Рік тому +100

    I don't think the original title has the word "Christmas" on it, but if "Poor Christmas" is actually it's name, it could perfectly be a charity record. The Face (or Faith) could have been a religious band that wished to raise awareness about poverty on Christmas Eve. "They need your eyes of love" and "they need your hands, your healing hand only to survive" sound kinda persuasive if you think about it.

    • @ishkazetori4645
      @ishkazetori4645 Рік тому +24

      I absolutely agree with you. It does does sound like a charity record.

    • @VisualConfusion
      @VisualConfusion Рік тому +18

      This is what I had in mind. A local christian band that tried to raise awareness of poverty on Christmas Eve. I wonder if the band ever made another song with a similar topic.

    • @fridamartins9834
      @fridamartins9834 10 місяців тому +10

      I totally second the idea of this being a regional Christian charity record. I googled "Eyes of love" just for fun and that is a known idiom for deep compassion. Auntie Google adds pictures of Jesus to that:) The whole thing makes me remember my own youth with regional radio stations, bands which received only regional publicity and (maybe a viable lead) mainstream radio stations in Germany lending their frequencies to small religious stations for very few hours a week. These small stations often presented bands that would otherwise not get too much air play and were more or less connected to a social cause.

    • @SuspenseComix-nx1tf
      @SuspenseComix-nx1tf 9 місяців тому +8

      Reminds me of “Do They Know It’s Christmas Time At All”.

  • @goajra
    @goajra 23 дні тому +8

    On 1:39 the vocalist say "That's *your* christmas faith" the song name could be "Your Christmas" because when you spell "Poor" without the "P" it sounds like "Our" or "Your"

  • @JumpOnMoba
    @JumpOnMoba 3 місяці тому +20

    that intro is absolutely beautiful

  • @t6667778
    @t6667778 2 роки тому +45

    The more I listen to this song, the more beautiful it sounds.

  • @DeadBrian
    @DeadBrian 8 місяців тому +30

    Putting this in my Christmas Playlist next year because this a masterpiece.

    • @s0uthqark
      @s0uthqark 4 місяці тому +3

      Just made a subreddit about this song if you are interested:) r/poorchistmas

    • @Adrianmc_2
      @Adrianmc_2 Місяць тому +1

      Cool :D ​@@s0uthqark

  • @jcorsen
    @jcorsen Місяць тому +11

    Come on, come on, come on, need to find this soong! 🔥

  • @BMN_Prime
    @BMN_Prime 2 роки тому +27

    I’m glad someone has a better memory of the 80s and can recall the songs beforehand!

    • @sefrite9119
      @sefrite9119 2 роки тому +7

      Ah yes, Billy Knight...

    • @BMN_Prime
      @BMN_Prime 2 роки тому +1

      @@sefrite9119 hmmm

    • @lostwavefinder587
      @lostwavefinder587 2 роки тому +5

      @@sefrite9119 statues standing perfectly still - like the wind

  • @porksandwichstolennft8822
    @porksandwichstolennft8822 2 роки тому +141

    Just played this at Christmas dinner, family loved it 👍

    • @potato1907
      @potato1907 2 роки тому +60

      "hey what's this song"
      ".."
      "yo i gotta go to the restroom"

    • @spazzofreak
      @spazzofreak 11 місяців тому +3

      @@potato1907😂

    • @drizright4021
      @drizright4021 6 місяців тому +5

      This Song appears on a Kuschelrock CD!!!!!! My Mother - where's my Mother???? She has the CD!!!!!!!

    • @LostwavePerson
      @LostwavePerson 3 місяці тому +2

      @@drizright4021updates?

    • @real_plague
      @real_plague 2 місяці тому +5

      @@LostwavePersonprolly fake

  • @Adrianmc_2
    @Adrianmc_2 Місяць тому +6

    1:13 that change of music was wonderful

  • @TrulyySarah
    @TrulyySarah Рік тому +27

    I like this song. I hope it gets found one day

  • @MaxisMaximal
    @MaxisMaximal Місяць тому +11

    At the Official German Musikarchiv there is no published Song exist with the Title Poor Christmas. The Song must have a different Title! I also serached for "Christmas" or C`mon C´mon" (1986-1988 )and listened to some samples nothing´s matched. So i would rule out the Titles Poor Christmas, Christmas, C`mon.
    The show could be Sounds From Synthesizer HR3

  • @sefrite9119
    @sefrite9119 2 роки тому +27

    Now my Christmas will be a little happier. Thank you, René.

    • @iamabearofficial7904
      @iamabearofficial7904 2 роки тому +1

      @SinkHollywood that’s a confirmed troll

    • @Sir_Gom_bOach
      @Sir_Gom_bOach 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@iamabearofficial7904 Christmas ain't be happier with him

  • @mystery_pond
    @mystery_pond 2 роки тому +45

    This is an interesting track... It sounds a lot like it's a replay of a live recording, maybe even a karaoke session. There are two vocalists, they occasionally trail off sentences (especially near the end) as if they've forgotten them, a couple of words are mispronounced by accident (like they did no retake since it was live) and the volume/clarity of the main singer seems to vary quite a lot between lines, as if he's singing into a microphone at varying distances. The first time the chorus is sung it sounds like there's a slight echo to the words, the same kind of thing you get at concerts or on stage.
    My lyrics interpretation after using demucs to isolate the vocals:
    Hear the world, boy, whisper
    By wishes we don't grow
    And see this little sister
    Just trembling in the snow
    They need your hands, your healing and
    Only to survive
    They're sat by lights in endless nights
    It's you to let their lives
    Come on, come on, come on
    They need your rise of love
    Come on, come on, come on
    Come on, come on, come on
    They need your rise of love
    Come on, come on, come on
    No, there's no illusion
    Just fighting for a say
    They're living in confusion
    Each small against one way
    I mean to help by preaching hope
    It's working in the rain
    Forgotten faith is endless pain
    But that's just Christmas Day
    Come on, come on, come on
    They need your rise of love
    Come on, come on, come on
    Come on, come on, come on
    They need your rise of love
    Come on, come on, come on
    Mmm, see their glooming eyes
    The day food feels so nice
    Please go home
    And love will reach your own
    See, there will be nights
    The day food feels so nice
    Please go home
    And love will reach your own
    Come on, come on, come on
    They need your rise of love
    Come on, come on, come on
    Come on, come on, come on
    They need your rise of love
    Come on, come on, come on

    • @jeffcoons
      @jeffcoons Рік тому +7

      I like this theory a lot. It definitely sounds like a live recording and if you look at the lyrics all together (I hear them slightly differently than the interpretation offered here but still), it really starts to paint a picture: A religious organization does a telethon to raise money for children in poverty during the holiday season. A band is found or assembled to provide some musical entertainment for the program. The Faith sounds like a perfect 'on the nose but still coolish sounding' band name for this religious program ("Forgotten faith is endless pain"). The musical backing track is either studio recorded or played live, with the 2 singers definitely singing live (listen to how rough the singing is starting around 1:40, for example). The lyrics are an appeal for people to donate: "Come on, come on, they need your eyes of love." The song could very well also be bluntly titled Poor Christmas since it's just a throwaway for the program anyway.
      If the story went something along these lines, then it could very well be that the song was played once live on the radio and never again. I personally doubt this one is solveable unless someone who was involved in the production somehow finds out about the mystery and/or radio playlist logs start getting dug through à la TMS (assuming they even still exist in the first place).

    • @VisualConfusion
      @VisualConfusion Рік тому +4

      @@jeffcoons I wonder. Could this whole Christmas charity thing have been featured in the newspapers of the city? Maybe that could’ve had the people responsible for this track mentioned as well as its name.

  • @lostwavefinder587
    @lostwavefinder587 2 роки тому +48

    It's in such good quality! I love this song even more now!!!!

    • @audiodood
      @audiodood 2 роки тому +7

      ben

    • @user-rx2ur5el9p
      @user-rx2ur5el9p 2 роки тому +3

      @@audiodood r/youngpeopleyoutube

    • @audiodood
      @audiodood 2 роки тому +4

      @@user-rx2ur5el9p r/itscalledafuckinginsidejoke

    • @user-rx2ur5el9p
      @user-rx2ur5el9p 2 роки тому

      @@audiodood ben

    • @audiodood
      @audiodood 2 роки тому +3

      @@user-rx2ur5el9p its only funny because I, a personal friend of a certain ben, said it

  • @mattrodriguez7933
    @mattrodriguez7933 8 місяців тому +12

    Merry Christmas guys, really do hope this one is found soon

  • @whoismegmanic
    @whoismegmanic Рік тому +21

    3 days before christmas and we still don’t know anything about the author(s) of this masterpiece :(

  • @MellieTerry
    @MellieTerry  2 роки тому +14

    Here's my try to decode the lyrics. So the title could be "Your Christmas" and maybe there's a pun on Christmas Carol. It's possible that the singer use three different words that sound very similar ("Come on", "Come home", "Carol"). Let me know what you think.
    Keep your aim clear this time
    Like wishes we don't blame
    And see his little sister
    She's trampling in this room
    I need your hands, your healing hands
    Only to survive
    That support lights in endless nights
    It's you to wrap their lives
    Come on, come home
    Carol
    I need your eyes of love
    Come on, come home
    Carol
    Come on, come home
    Carol
    I need your eyes of love
    Come on, come home
    Carol
    Now there's no illusion
    Just fightin' for a thing
    They're living in confusion
    It's more all against one ring
    I mean to hope, our wish is hope
    It's vacuum in the wave
    Forgot we'd take this, endless faint
    If that's your Christmas day
    Come on, come home
    Carol
    I need your eyes of love
    Come on, come home
    Carol
    Come on, come home
    Carol
    I need your eyes of love
    Come on, come home
    Carol
    You see through gloomy nights
    The day through it feels so nice
    Please come home
    Love will reach you
    See through gloomy nights
    The day through it feels so nice
    Please come home
    Love will reach you
    Come on, come home
    Carol
    I need your eyes of love
    Come on, come home
    Carol
    I need your eyes of love
    Come on, come home
    Carol
    I need your eyes of love
    Come on, come home
    Carol
    I need your eyes of love
    Come on, come home

  • @RealLeFishe
    @RealLeFishe 2 місяці тому +8

    I think I found my new favorite Christmas song.

  • @_Joshua11PK
    @_Joshua11PK 9 місяців тому +5

    I only remember this song because when I was listening to it, my kitten died, I only listen to it to remember it.

  • @LostwaveObsession
    @LostwaveObsession 2 роки тому +8

    2:17 I'm like wait what! Thank you so much for this. I feel a new optimism!

  • @rybalan
    @rybalan 2 роки тому +15

    Wow

  • @Elissabat13
    @Elissabat13 6 місяців тому +6

    I someday heard this while driving my car. Weird. I wish radiostations would announce songs properly

    • @gjelbrim
      @gjelbrim 5 місяців тому +1

      do you know which station on which day? most stations have an archive

  • @EpicMickey2AintBad
    @EpicMickey2AintBad 2 місяці тому +7

    i strongly believe that both songs (trip to rio & poor christmas) are from radio ffn along with most songs on the tape as 3 of the artists were included on radio ffn compilations in the early 90s
    Stepping Razor - Latin Tears (Uncle Sam Is Coming) - FFN powestation 1 (1990)
    The Sound - Hands of love - FFN Powerstation 2 (1990) (Diffrent song but from the same album as the iron years)
    David Sylvian- Orpheus - FFN Nightline (1992)

    • @crackhallands
      @crackhallands 2 місяці тому +1

      so the band of trip to río can be Paradise Bazaar? and Poor Christmas- Face of grace?¿. i dont know bro.

    • @EpicMickey2AintBad
      @EpicMickey2AintBad 2 місяці тому +1

      @@crackhallands face of grace is very unlikely as the track lengths don't match up

    • @EpicMickey2AintBad
      @EpicMickey2AintBad 2 місяці тому +1

      However paradise bazaar is quite likely

    • @crackhallands
      @crackhallands 2 місяці тому +1

      @@EpicMickey2AintBad and Paradise Bazaar?¿

    • @crackhallands
      @crackhallands 2 місяці тому +1

      @@EpicMickey2AintBad What are the clues bro? Please I need to know them. I love the song Trip to río.

  • @blackhawksnbullsncubsnbear4615
    @blackhawksnbullsncubsnbear4615 Рік тому +11

    Lyrics (my interpretation):
    Hear the poor boy whisper
    He wishes without pain/with a way
    And see his little sister
    She's trembling in the street
    Beneath your hands, your healing and own need to survive
    They set flood lights in empty nights it's you, to help their lives
    Come on, come one, come on
    I need your eyes of love
    Come on, come on, come on
    Now there's no illusion
    Just fighting for a sin
    They're living in confusion
    Mother/Tomorrow gets one win
    I need to hope for rich and hope
    It's like you knew the way
    Forgotten pain/faith this/is endless pain
    It's just your Christmas Day/Mistranslate
    Come on, come on, come on
    I Need your eyes of love
    Come on, come on, come on

    • @justin_5631
      @justin_5631 Рік тому +1

      I hear 'forgotten pain, this endless rain' which would make sense and actually.. instead of christmas I hear something like 'that's just business'

    • @justin_5631
      @justin_5631 Рік тому +2

      it's also possible he's saying 'need your rays of love'
      i'm not saying this is the case, just that it's someone with a heavy accent and different readings of the lyrics might find the original.

  • @iamabearofficial7904
    @iamabearofficial7904 2 роки тому +11

    OMG IM EXCITED! IM LISTENING RN

  • @selenashaver2931
    @selenashaver2931 2 роки тому +12

    Awesome! So glad the full version was finally found.

  • @splashykoy11
    @splashykoy11 8 місяців тому +8

    My cat loves this song ❤️

  • @BaroneseBon
    @BaroneseBon 2 роки тому +20

    Thank you so much! This is absolutely beautiful!

  • @DefyJoe
    @DefyJoe 2 роки тому +11

    Nice!

  • @t6667778
    @t6667778 2 роки тому +8

    Iam obsessed with this mystery.

  • @the_cursor
    @the_cursor 4 місяці тому +6

    I'm convinced this is some Christian song. I hear lines like "they need your hands, your healing hands" and "please Go-ahah-od." There is an American family show theme song quality to it. The guitar player is almost certainly American or just a fan of the California rock sound of the '80s.

  • @fireflakesss
    @fireflakesss Рік тому +8

    Merry Christmas guys!

  • @Zinkquer
    @Zinkquer 8 місяців тому +8

    this is such a lovely song

  • @dani488_
    @dani488_ Рік тому +12

    The Vaze - Your Christmas (1987)?
    If the band's name it's not The Face, The Faith, The Race, The Rays, could be just The Vaze, The Vase, The Waze or The Wase
    I think this would help to identify.
    The fact this music played in Clube FM 103.5 could be a lostwave fan asking to play the song.

    • @BubblegumBlitz
      @BubblegumBlitz Рік тому

      Wait, It was played again on another radio? Is there any recording of that?

    • @dani488_
      @dani488_ Рік тому +3

      @@BubblegumBlitz no :(, and also was a lostwave fan asking for play it, he confirmed that.

  • @miojo157._.
    @miojo157._. 8 місяців тому +6

    merry christmas, lostwave community!

    • @s0uthqark
      @s0uthqark 4 місяці тому

      Just made a subreddit about this song if you are interested:) r/poorchistmas

  • @Fedespinoza2007
    @Fedespinoza2007 3 місяці тому +7

    The frame/the fame - Pure/Your Christmas

  • @t6667778
    @t6667778 2 роки тому +4

    Aahh ha. He says forgotten faith is endless faith right before he mentions Christmas day.

  • @tonystpierre2006
    @tonystpierre2006 2 роки тому +8

    I don't know if you were informed but the vinyl on discogs we thought could be the song called " face 2 face - steal her away this Christmas" was purchased and sadly wasn't the song.

  • @lostwavefinder587
    @lostwavefinder587 Рік тому +6

    I can't believe it's not solved 😮‍💨

  • @vnvmode
    @vnvmode 2 роки тому +6

    Possible interpretation
    Even with the wisdom
    of wishes we don't get
    And see his little sister
    Just trembling in the ?street?
    Beneath your hands, your healing hands
    Only to survive
    The Salzburg lights and endless nights
    It's you to let them ?light?
    Come on, come on, come on
    Need your eyes of love
    Know there's no illusion
    Just fighting for a say
    They're living in confusion
    There's more than just one way
    I need your hope
    I wish it's hope is working in their way
    Forgotten faith, this endless faith
    that's just your Christmas day
    See the blooming ice
    the day through is so nice
    please go home
    and now we're in heaven
    see the blooming ice
    the day through is so nice
    please go home
    and now we're in heaven

  • @s41v14
    @s41v14 8 місяців тому +5

    This sounds like something you can hear playing in the background of a John Hughes movie

  • @tranqlity
    @tranqlity 2 роки тому +8

    WOOOOOOW

  • @thisbambibites
    @thisbambibites 2 роки тому +8

    Nice to hear the full thing!

  • @t6667778
    @t6667778 2 роки тому +9

    I want this solved so bad!!

  • @rooth4487
    @rooth4487 2 роки тому +6

    Woo!

  • @mattrodriguez7933
    @mattrodriguez7933 2 роки тому +8

    Merry Chrimbo everybody!
    Hopefully by Christmas 2022 will have this song identified!

    • @MellieTerry
      @MellieTerry  2 роки тому +7

      And Merry Christmas to you. I gladly join this wish. Hopefully the band or individual members will soon find out that we are looking for them.

  • @lostwavefinder587
    @lostwavefinder587 Рік тому +27

    SOMEONE....ANYONE....we NEED the identity of this track!

  • @t6667778
    @t6667778 2 роки тому +6

    Such a nice song.

  • @t6667778
    @t6667778 2 роки тому +16

    Its sounds like such a popular well known song...i just dont see how no one knows the name of it.

  • @peynet8860
    @peynet8860 2 роки тому +8

    LETS GOOOOO

  • @breachtones
    @breachtones 2 роки тому +20

    new lyric interpretation after hearing this rip, thank you for uploading it! it sounds so good.
    hear the people whisper
    our wishes mean nothing
    and see his little sister
    just trembling in this rain
    beneath your hands, your healing hand
    only to survive
    the set-back lights, and endless nights
    it's you, to let them lie
    come on, come on, come on
    need your eyes of love
    come on, come on, come on [x2]
    though there's no illusion
    just fighting for a sin
    they're living in confusion
    it's more against one win
    i need your hope
    i wish it hope
    it's working in their way
    but i got this faith, this endless faith
    that's just your christmas day
    you, see the blooming lights
    the day through is so nice
    please go home
    and now we ??
    see the blooming lights
    the day through is so nice
    please go home
    and now we ??
    come on, come on, come on
    need your eyes of love
    come on, come on, come on [x4]

  • @Thomas-ry8xq
    @Thomas-ry8xq 8 місяців тому +4

    Merry Christmas

  • @fridamartins9834
    @fridamartins9834 8 місяців тому +4

    Merry Christmas everyone!

  • @the_cipriani7510
    @the_cipriani7510 2 роки тому +16

    In an alternate universe this could be a chrismas hit instead of Last Chrismas and it would be a lost media xD

  • @cxgx9054
    @cxgx9054 Рік тому +6

    The Race - Christmas for you

  • @vnvmode
    @vnvmode 2 роки тому +5

    Just revisiting.... Come on Carol has been said as a possibility
    Come on Cara?
    Cara = Face
    Possibly a connection somewhere?

  • @vnvmode
    @vnvmode 2 роки тому +5

    I am following up with a lead for a song recorded in 1986.
    Perhaps, perhaps, perhaps....

  • @micp89
    @micp89 3 місяці тому +4

    hear the people whisper like "THY wishes we don't weigh"
    "and see his little sister, she's trembling in the snow"
    "I need YOUR hands, YOUR healing hand only to survive"
    "they suffer flights in endless nights since YOU do let they have"
    come on, come on, come on, need YOUR eyes of love
    come on, come on, come on
    come on, come on, come on, need YOUR eyes of love
    come on, come on, come on
    no, that's no illusion, god's fighting for his men
    they're living in confusion, small against one win
    I mean to hope their rich is hope, it's vacuum in the rave
    forgotten faith, this endless shame, that's, that's your Christmas day
    come on, come on, come on, need YOUR eyes of love
    come on, come on, come on
    come on, come on, come on, need YOUR eyes of love
    come on, come on, come on
    you, see their ruling eyes, the day through it feels so nice
    "please go home", but now they're in my heart
    see their ruling eyes, the day through it feels so nice
    "please go home", but now they're written word
    come on, come on, come on, need YOUR eyes of love
    come on, come on, come on, they need YOUR eyes of love
    come on, come on, come on, need YOUR eyes of love
    come on, come on, come on, need YOUR eyes of love
    come on, come on, come ...

  • @tonystpierre2006
    @tonystpierre2006 2 роки тому +13

    Hey Rène. This may be a weird question but are you able to send a picture of the paper you wrote this songs possible title on? Some members from the discord are curious to what you wrote down exactly. If you're not able to send a picture it's okay and I appreciate that you're still trying to find this song with the community searching for it.

    • @MellieTerry
      @MellieTerry  2 роки тому +10

      I haven't had my original labels for years, as I had already written small labelling programmes for myself on the computer in the early 1990s. Sorry.

  • @BaroneseBon
    @BaroneseBon 2 роки тому +10

    René, to keep you up to date, and remember to take this with a grain of salt as it is mainly speculation on our part; based on the radio schedules, Pop-Fit was supposedly cancelled on the last day of December 1986. The spectrograph of PC did not contain the 10khz line, which is otherwise present on the spectrum of the majority of NDR recordings, though this could be regional. Based on the Hamburg newspaper radio schedules, we've also found out that Powerstation seemingly started on October 24th, 1988 (unless it changed stations), leaving only Grenzwellen on FFN.
    Do you happen to remember if Ecki Stieg played similar music on Grenzwellen, or was it mainly just obscure and uncommon electronic music?
    Again, take this with a grain of salt as it may or may not be accurate. Hopefully, this information does jog up your memory a bit.

    • @MellieTerry
      @MellieTerry  2 роки тому +5

      I would say that your investigation should fit Pop-Fit.
      But I wouldn't be so sure about Radio ffn. I've definitely been listening to the station since at least mid-1987, because the great "This House is a House of Trouble" by Sally Timms & The Drifting Cowgirls Feat. Marc Almond was playing on continuous loop. I can't imagine that ffn started out without Powerstation and then only launched it a year later. So Radio ffn is definitely possible.
      Likewise HR 3, since I had regularly heard "Der Ball ist rund" with Klaus Walter (the German John Peel) every week on this station. I owe my favorite band The Go-Betweens to this DJ, who always had them on the program. The rest of HR 3 I have rather not heard.
      Likewise not (anymore) NDR 1 and NDR 2.
      My overall assessment of ffn or HR 3: I probably recorded the song back in October of 1987. At that time, they didn't actually play Christmas songs yet. This non-conformity would fit Klaus Walter, though.

    • @BaroneseBon
      @BaroneseBon 2 роки тому +9

      ​@@MellieTerry Thanks for the clarification! I genuinely don't think we're far off from solving this one, or at least I'm hoping it won't take another year. If we're even lucky to find a copy of the song for sale, we'll notify you right away; we want you to be the one to have it.

    • @MellieTerry
      @MellieTerry  2 роки тому +5

      Many thanks. A vinyl copy would be a dream. It worked with Quango Mouse - Dreamtime Lover, so why not with "Poor Christmas"?

    • @TheFallenGuitaritst
      @TheFallenGuitaritst 8 днів тому +1

      Unrelated but what about the cassette stock footage? And who made it? And where can I find it?

  • @Robert-dc2pe
    @Robert-dc2pe 6 місяців тому +10

    New information but still waiting for confirmation! This is Michael Kloss (of They Fade in Silence (Germany)) and the song is "A Christmas Funeral" from 1987 or 1988. UNCONFIRMED Information if it turns out false I will delete this comment. I am investigating but I hope it's correct and the mystery is soon solved!

    • @lexal3480
      @lexal3480 6 місяців тому +1

      Hello,
      How did you get in touch with Martin Jürgensmann? What was the exact message he left you? Did you also ask him about Trip To Rio and Eastern Wind?
      Thank you.

    • @Thomas-ry8xq
      @Thomas-ry8xq 6 місяців тому +2

      I contacted him on FB. He replied. It's not him.

    • @lexal3480
      @lexal3480 6 місяців тому +1

      Did you contact Michael Floss? @@Thomas-ry8xq

    • @s0uthqark
      @s0uthqark 4 місяці тому +1

      Just made a subreddit about this song if you are interested:) r/poorchistmas

  • @tonystpierre2006
    @tonystpierre2006 2 роки тому +6

    I have a question. You say you remember the band as "the face" . Did you write it down or are you going off your memory? I believe you that it's called the face or something similar since you almost got quango mouse artist and title correct.

    • @MellieTerry
      @MellieTerry  2 роки тому +5

      Yes, it is the same situation. I had written down the title the moment I recorded the track. So it's not such a bad tip, but of course I could have misheard it at the time.

    • @tonystpierre2006
      @tonystpierre2006 2 роки тому +4

      @@MellieTerry Thanks. that means there is a good chance the song is called the face poor christmas or something very similar.

  • @aiman9365
    @aiman9365 Рік тому +8

    Search UA-cam for another restored version of this song:
    "Restored! Full Poor Christmas Version - Stereo - [Unknown Song]"
    Listen closely.
    It really sounds like:
    "Come on, Carol, Carol!"..."Come on, Come on, Carol!"

  • @micp89
    @micp89 3 місяці тому +5

    Interessant: Ich kenne den Song aus dem Radio oder Fernsehen. Er hat es also damals bis in die Schweiz geschafft!
    Mein erster Gedanke war direkt: Band aus Berlin -- Mauerfall -- Wendezeit
    Habe dann erst gesehen, dass er 1987 in Deutschland aufgenommen wurde.
    Könnte das eine der Bands sein, die in der Musikszene um Berlin (oder allenfalls um Hamburg [wie komm ich da drauf?]) damals angesagt waren?
    Könnte der Song in einer TV-Doku über Berlin, die DDR, die Mauer o.ä. eingespielt worden sein?

    • @MellieTerry
      @MellieTerry  3 місяці тому +4

      Nein, ich habe ihn definitiv im Radio aufgenommen. Einige Jahre davor - so 1982 - habe ich auch einmal ein Mikro vor den Fernseher gehalten und z. B. Kim Wilde und Musical Youth auf diesem Weg aufgenommen. Die Aufnahmen klingen scheußlich ;-). Und erst irgendwann Anfang der 1990er habe ich mir dann vernünftige Anschlüsse zugelegt, so dass ich tatsächlich hörbare Audioaufnahmen aus dem TV machen konnte.

  • @t6667778
    @t6667778 2 роки тому +8

    First time listening to full version. Awsome!!

  • @Thomas-ry8xq
    @Thomas-ry8xq Рік тому +6

    Any updates on the search?

  • @MellieTerry
    @MellieTerry  2 роки тому +7

    And another title is possible: "Pure Christmas". But nothing available on Discogs.

    • @lostwavefinder587
      @lostwavefinder587 2 роки тому +8

      It is, unfortunately, entirely possible that this song just plain isn't on Discogs, or anywhere on the internet besides your radio recording and only exists in physical format currently. This has happened before, with a song called "Someone" by Miller & DeLong (ua-cam.com/video/4mePGY4QFFA/v-deo.html) that had no record of it existing online until someone listed the single on EBay and it was finally digitized.

    • @thisbambibites
      @thisbambibites 2 роки тому +2

      René I was going to suggest that as an alternative placeholder title, but you took it right out of my mouth!

  • @4rtsyval
    @4rtsyval 6 місяців тому +3

    so good 😔

    • @s0uthqark
      @s0uthqark 4 місяці тому +2

      Just made a subreddit about this song if you are interested:) r/poorchistmas

    • @4rtsyval
      @4rtsyval 4 місяці тому +1

      @@s0uthqark thank you! will check it out

  • @gabimcclurkin6074
    @gabimcclurkin6074 2 місяці тому +4

    Just listened again, and I'm starting to think Camouflage could be a candidate for our band.
    Just a suggestion, tho. I'm trying to think of specifically german bands.

  • @Thomas-ry8xq
    @Thomas-ry8xq 9 місяців тому +6

    They just Solved The Kenya Dance.

    • @asterlofts1565
      @asterlofts1565 9 місяців тому +3

      Yeah; and "How Long Will It Takes?", "Swahili Dance" and "Fond my Mind".

  • @mehjibray
    @mehjibray 8 місяців тому +6

    THSI JS SO GOOD

  • @t6667778
    @t6667778 2 роки тому +6

    He says forgotten faith at one point. Could that be the name of the group?

  • @lostwavefinder587
    @lostwavefinder587 2 роки тому +11

    Hey René, do you happen to remember what area you lived in Germany at the time you recorded Poor and Rio? this could help in determining which station they were played on, as FFN and HR3 reached different areas during different times.

    • @MellieTerry
      @MellieTerry  2 роки тому +10

      Hi, I lived in Göttingen (southern lower saxony) at that time, so i could receive both ffn and HR 3 well and had heard them accordingly.

    • @lostwavefinder587
      @lostwavefinder587 2 роки тому +6

      @@MellieTerry thanks, this information helps. We are speculating that both songs may have been played on a show called "Der Ball Ist Rund" on HR3

    • @MellieTerry
      @MellieTerry  2 роки тому +9

      @@lostwavefinder587 that's possible because I heard this show very often.

  • @milesium-487
    @milesium-487 2 роки тому +11

    I WAS JUST TALKING TO A FRIEND ABOUT THIS SONG BEFORE THIS WAS UPLOADED TODAY

  • @is_ley
    @is_ley 2 роки тому +4

    I guess I should post my lyric interpretation?
    _
    Here, the withered vista,
    our wishes be the way.
    And see this little sister,
    she's trembling in this street.
    Beneath your hands,
    your healing hands,
    only to survive.
    Those Stratford lights
    and endless nights.
    It's you, to wrap their lives.
    Come on, come on.
    Come on.
    I need your eyes of love.
    Come on, come on.
    Come on.
    Come on, come on.
    Come on.
    Need your eyes of love.
    Come on, come on.
    Come on.
    Know there's no illusion;
    just fighting for a sin;
    they're living in confusion.
    A smile against one win.
    I mean to hope.
    Our wish is hope.
    It's working in their way.
    Forgot me faith,
    this endless strength.
    That's just your Christmas day.
    Come on, come on.
    Come on.
    Need your eyes of love.
    Come on, come on.
    Come on.
    Come on, come on.
    Come on.
    I need your eyes of love.
    Come on, come on.
    Come on.
    You see the blooming ice?
    The day through is so nice.
    Please go home.
    And love will return.
    You see the blooming ice?
    The day through is so nice.
    Please go home.
    And love will return.
    Ooh.
    Come on, come on.
    Come on.
    Need your eyes of love.
    Come on, come on.
    Come on.
    I need your eyes of love.
    Come on, come on.
    Come on.
    Need your eyes of love.
    Come on, come on.
    Come on.
    I need your eyes of love.
    Come on, come on.

    • @greenockscatman
      @greenockscatman Рік тому +1

      Blooming ice makes perfect sense to me. Used to live in a place where we'd get beautiful frost ferns on the patio window when the weather was right.

  • @modifidious
    @modifidious 4 місяці тому +3

    This reminds me so much of "in between days" by the cure for some reason

    • @s0uthqark
      @s0uthqark 4 місяці тому +1

      Just made a subreddit about this song if you are interested:) r/poorchistmas

  • @Traivlin
    @Traivlin 2 роки тому +10

    Hi! Zwischen welchen Liedern befinden sich jeweils Poor Christmas und Trip To Rio chronologisch in den Songs die du aufgelistet hast? Und sind die Lieder dieser Liste auch in chronologischer Reihenfolge, also so wie sie dann auch auf deiner Kassette abgespielt werden?

    • @MellieTerry
      @MellieTerry  2 роки тому +8

      Die Reihenfolge entspricht meiner Kassette und die beiden Tracks waren zwischen Nr. 6 The Leather Nun und Nr. 7 Cetu Javu. Es kommt zunächst "Trip To Rio" und dann "Poor Christmas".

  • @aeonicbutterfly9662
    @aeonicbutterfly9662 2 роки тому +4

    Got a new set of audio kit, though I'd try transcribing this song.
    For the lyrics, I kept it as "Rise of love" because I personally hear the R closer to the -ize than the "you-," but after transcribing my version of the lyrics, it sounds like a plea to a higher power to find a missing person.
    So in that sense, they could be pleading to God to find the missing, and then it could easily be God's Eyes, or Eyes of Love.
    Really makes me think of a charity single.
    Hear the woeful whisper
    "Of wishes, we don't break,"
    And see his little sister
    She's trembling in this rain
    Beneath your hands-
    Your healing hands-
    Only to survive
    They've suffered lights
    And endless nights
    It's you
    To let them live (strong i needed to rhyme with survive)
    Come on come on
    Come on
    Need you, rise of love
    Come on come on
    Come on
    Come on come on
    Come on
    Need you, rise of love
    Come on come on
    Come on
    Know there's no illusion
    Just fighting for her sake
    They're living in confusion
    ?This moment gets one way?
    I'll meet you, help
    I'll reach you, help
    It's working in the way
    Forgotten, make this
    Endless, blame this
    That's just Christmas Day
    Come on come on
    Come on
    Need you, rise of love
    Come on come on
    Come on
    Come on come on
    Come on
    Need you, rise of love
    Come on come on
    Come on
    You
    See the blue-green ice
    The day through proves so nice
    Please go home
    A lovely written poem
    See the blue-green ice
    The day through proves so nice
    Please go home
    A lovely written poem
    Come on come on
    Come on
    Need you, rise of love
    Come on come on
    Come on
    Need you, rise of love
    Come on come on
    Come on
    Need you, rise of love
    Come on come on...

    • @TheNifitss
      @TheNifitss 2 роки тому

      Its trembling in the snow

    • @aeonicbutterfly9662
      @aeonicbutterfly9662 2 роки тому

      @@TheNifitss Yeah, I've heard this after my sibling uploaded a WIP remaster. I'll give it another listen later.

    • @blackhawksnbullsncubsnbear4615
      @blackhawksnbullsncubsnbear4615 Рік тому +1

      I think it's "Beneath your hands, your healing and, own need to survive"

  • @BubblegumBlitz
    @BubblegumBlitz 10 місяців тому +5

    Do you have this on FLAC ow WAV? Really want this on the highest quality possible

  • @Traivlin
    @Traivlin 2 роки тому +12

    Hi René.
    Klaus Walter was contacted and he unfortunately doesn't remember having played either Poor Christmas or Trip To Rio.
    His exact words were (in German):
    "hallo, leider kann ich da nicht weiterhelfen. die beiden songs kenne ich nicht und ich kann mir auch gar nicht vorstellen, dass ich die mal in meiner sendung gespielt habe - strange. tut mir leid, best, Klaus"
    It could still be possibly him, but his wording sounded like he wouldn't have had played such songs on his show.
    Do you remember what kind of songs Klaus played and if Poor Christmas or Trip To Rio would actually fit his show genre-wise?
    Other than that, here are the programs from every day of Radio FFN in October 1987 (according to the newspaper Hamburger Abendblatt, but a copy of a 1987 Hörzu magazine had the same information):
    09:00 Verbraucherservice, Gesundheit, Kulturelles
    09:00 Flaps, Flops und Nonsense (on Sundays)
    12:00 Spielhölle zum Mitmachen (on Sundays)
    13:00 Siesta, Musik
    14:00 Boulevard, Freizeit, Umwelt
    14:00 Sport-Tops
    18:00 Jugend, Pop-News On-Stage, Sport
    18:00 Die hot 100 (on Saturdays)
    18:00 Der Druidenkessel, Übersinnliches (on Sundays)
    22:00 Sport
    21:00 Liebesgrüsse, Lyrik, Musik und Hörerwünsche (on Sundays)
    22:00 Musikspecial: Tania Maria aus Brasilien (Special, once)
    20:00 Special: Dagobert Lindlau und sein neues Buch "Der Mob" (Special, once)
    22:05 Chicano Rock (Special, once)
    22:05 Musikspecials
    23:00 The Style Council (Special, once)
    00:00 Kirche
    00:01 Party
    00:01 Nachtschicht
    ----------------------------------------------------
    One thing that jumps to mind is that Powerstation and Grenzwellen wasn't listed.
    Powerstation should be on weekdays at 6pm, but instead it's a show called Jugend, Popnews On-Stage.
    Grenzwellen should be on Sundays at 9pm, but instead it's a show called Liebesgrüsse.
    We're still trying to get copies of the October 1987 newspapers from Göttingen, so we can see if the radio schedule differs in any way.
    Do any of those other radio programs I listed seem familiar to you at all?

    • @MellieTerry
      @MellieTerry  2 роки тому +4

      Regarding Klaus Walter ("Der Ball ist rund"): I would have said that he could have played the songs on his show, since, like John Peel, he had an open ear for all kinds of musical genres. Of course, the focus was on alternative music, which at that time was still called independent, but not only. Who he had on his program, for example: The Go-Betweens (who became my favorite band through him), Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds, The Triffids or Phillip Boa & The Voodooclub. However, if he himself says that he can't imagine having played these titles, of course we should believe him.
      To Radio ffn: None of the given broadcasts actually says anything to me. If it was indeed the program from October 1987, then this definitely applied to my hometown Göttingen, since there were no regional "windows". According to Wikipedia, the "Grenzwellen" were already running in 1987, but may of course have been from November or December 1987. The presenter Ecki Stieg, however, is said to have been there from the beginning as music editor. So "Powerstation" music could already have been played in 1987, even if under a different title. In this respect, Ecki Stieg and other ffn editors might be a possibility. According to the first "Powerstation" sampler (CD/LP), these were Uli Kniep, Gerd Kespohl, Lutz Hanker and Frank Eichner. Maybe someone of them can help?

  • @MellieTerry
    @MellieTerry  2 роки тому +8

    Two songs I searched for years. One is solved, the other is still unknown. Both here on UA-cam for the first time in better audio and in full length or at least a little bit longer. Join the premiere.
    Steven Café - Say (Full Length Original Version) (Fanmade Video) (1986)
    Premiere 04.12.2021, 20 h GMT+1, see ua-cam.com/video/jBJ61CZAxTw/v-deo.html
    Eastern Wind (Unknown song from 1986 - first time slightly longer original recording)
    Premiere 04.12.2021, 21 h GMT+1, see ua-cam.com/video/ctMHNAkSqlU/v-deo.html

  • @TheNifitss
    @TheNifitss 2 роки тому +4

    What did you hear what the dj said in german? Also did the dj say the artist english or german?

  • @sonicelerizogamer1988
    @sonicelerizogamer1988 2 роки тому +6

    Can be "Love on Christmas"

  • @t6667778
    @t6667778 2 роки тому +7

    I just thought of something...he says carol carol....like Christmas carol. Hehe.

    • @SJursa-ey4tt
      @SJursa-ey4tt Місяць тому

      hm i hear *candle* there lol

  • @tonystpierre2006
    @tonystpierre2006 2 роки тому +4

    Hey, do you think the song was called , Steal her away(this Christmas) by face 2 face?
    sorry if you've been asked this already

    • @MellieTerry
      @MellieTerry  2 роки тому +4

      I don't think so because I already recorded this track in November 1987. Face 2 Face vinyl was from 1988. As a Christmas single it was probably published at the end of this year. - I wasn't asked this already but I came across it myself while searching the internet.

  • @theflintacechannel5144
    @theflintacechannel5144 2 роки тому +4

    Has anyone tried contacting the Filipino station wxb102? I found the station randomly and heard many obscure new wave songs that I had never heard before.

    • @lostwavefinder587
      @lostwavefinder587 2 роки тому +3

      this song was played in Germany and is most likely a local obscure band. highly unlikely it made it to the Philippines.

  • @user-nm1ui9vt5c
    @user-nm1ui9vt5c 6 місяців тому +3

    Background beginning music like Take my breath away

  • @InactiveFormOfLife98
    @InactiveFormOfLife98 Місяць тому +2

    Könnten Sie mir eine FLAC-Datei des Songs schicken? Ich möchte es unbedingt in höchster Qualität hören. Danke schön.

  • @theoriginalbluey
    @theoriginalbluey 2 роки тому +6

    Looking for They Need To Be Free by The Last Four (Face Records, Germany, 1987) to rule it out, but hopefully not!

  • @akoznasovajusername
    @akoznasovajusername Місяць тому +10

    Unfortunately, at 2:44 the bitter truth firmly reveals that it is a demo song.

  • @anonheart
    @anonheart 2 роки тому +5

    a bit irrelevent of a question but, when will you update the links on your site? they lead to dead urls

    • @MellieTerry
      @MellieTerry  2 роки тому +2

      Thanks for your info. I will see that I update them soon.

    • @anonheart
      @anonheart 2 роки тому +5

      @@MellieTerry also 3 of the songs that didn't have UA-cam uploads have been uploaded now ^_^

  • @t6667778
    @t6667778 2 роки тому +13

    I wonder why the full version wasnt posted years earlier?

    • @thisbambibites
      @thisbambibites 2 роки тому +3

      Yeah, me too?

    • @t6667778
      @t6667778 2 роки тому +1

      I meant to type WASNT***

    • @hawktalon7890
      @hawktalon7890 2 роки тому +4

      Sometimes people plan on uploading things but temporarily misplace them, or other things in life take priority.

  • @t6667778
    @t6667778 2 роки тому +5

    This is the most mysterious song on the internet!

  • @therestaurant823
    @therestaurant823 8 місяців тому +2

    love this song, still haven't found anything concrete but still looking.
    can anyone tell if this is using any real instruments besides the electric guitar tracks?

  • @sonicelerizogamer1988
    @sonicelerizogamer1988 2 роки тому +5

    Maybe is just "christmas"

  • @edithmiiura2805
    @edithmiiura2805 Рік тому +5

    Face of Grace - why/Hear Me (1986) ??

  • @dani488_
    @dani488_ Рік тому +14

    NO WAY!!!!!
    It played last night at Clube FM 103.5!
    I'm not joking man
    But, sadly, the name of the artist and the music wasn't pronounced.

    • @iamabearofficial7904
      @iamabearofficial7904 Рік тому +2

      in Brazil?

    • @dani488_
      @dani488_ Рік тому +2

      @@iamabearofficial7904 yes

    • @dani488_
      @dani488_ Рік тому +7

      @@iamabearofficial7904 could be just a lostwave lover asking to play the song

    • @dani488_
      @dani488_ Рік тому +3

      @Jay Kay Yes, I can

    • @dani488_
      @dani488_ Рік тому +2

      @Jay Kay I have some good friends working for the radio.

  • @tonystpierre2006
    @tonystpierre2006 2 роки тому +6

    do you think the title could be different from your Christmas or poor christmas? could it be something like come on?

    • @MellieTerry
      @MellieTerry  2 роки тому +7

      I don't think so. I've noticed it in 1987 so I assume that the radio presenter called it "Poor Christmas" / "Pure Christmas" / "True Christmas" or something like that.

    • @tonystpierre2006
      @tonystpierre2006 2 роки тому +4

      What about the band name? what do you think it most likely was? Also one more question. since you recorded it in germany is it possible the title or artist was spelled in german? thanks

    • @MellieTerry
      @MellieTerry  2 роки тому +7

      I noticed "The Face" but it also could be "The Faith" / "The Race" and maybe "True Faith". I'm sure that title and artist were spelled in English. Radio ffn and HR 3 had presenters who could speak fluent English.

    • @tonystpierre2006
      @tonystpierre2006 2 роки тому +3

      @@MellieTerry Thank you bro Ill see if I can find a band with the name true faith

    • @NL-nw8tn
      @NL-nw8tn 2 роки тому +3

      @@MellieTerry There Is a band called The Face that plays obscure themes. One of them calls "Bodies". The vocalist sound similar like the song "The most mystirious song of Internet". If You're thinking in this band, the voice is so different than "Poor Christmas".

  • @Pedro-be7tc
    @Pedro-be7tc 2 роки тому +4

    If someone knows more information of this song please tell me