A few years ago I saw a story on UA-cam about a guy who had his engine stolen in this manner. He was eventually able to get a police report and took the sheriff to the guys house and was able to get his engine back.
I watched his video. A 30 year seller here. As soon as he asked to return it. I would have accepted it with no questions asked. Better to take the return than have a upset buyer. Once you accept the return. It's on him to return in time and in the same condition it was sent to him in. Take the return. Relist the item. And live to fight another day.
@peterdangelo5882 You don't know that for sure. But if you approve the return, eBay will cover you with the seller protection policy. That's why you always accept the return!
Agreed: "As soon as I receive the cards back in the exact condition as when I sent them, I'll get your refund right out to you." If I'm not mistaken, taken that path, the seller might have a way to issue a partial refund if something is amiss with the return, BUT - that might all depend on the return policy of the store.
@@wilson9999100unfortunately eBay tends to side with the seller anyways. I have been scammed with a $1k laptop before. I accepted the return request, got something different and eBay still sided with seller
I love watching every episode and I am glad you are getting the clutter out of the aisles. Have you considered cleaning under your packing tables? It looked like there is a bunch of debris under them. Your inventory shelves even have wheels and you could pull them out once a year and clean behind them. You may find a missing item that fell off the back of a shelf. I just happened to notice the stuff under the tables, etc from a quick scene that was down by the ground.
I never list anything that I can't afford to lose that amount of money, $1000 seems to be the max I feel comfortable with and even that depends on what it is. If I had an iPhone I would be selling local for cash just too many scammers in electronics but I have sold multiple vintage collectibles for around $1000. They are just different sets of buyers. If this had happened to me though, I would be filing charges.
I did sell some things in the thousand dollar price range, but it was back 10-20 years ago and the buyers were honorable. I don't even sell on eBay any more. Anything that big I'd do through a local auction house. They take a bigger percentage, but thievery is someone else's problem.
That’s really not true. There’s a lot wrong with this whole story. I’ve had similar things happen as a seller, but eBay has always had my back. The seller in this situation should have taken great care to communicate with the buyer, especially given the dollar amount. Before sending cards at all. The seller reserves the right to cancel an order if they suspect something fishy. And if the seller did ask all the right questions they would’ve noticed that either the buyer was not responding or answered the questions weird or that he flat out. Wanted to cancel before they were shipped. It’s a rotten situation altogether if the seller is indeed not getting that money back, but there just has to be more to the story than that . This is all just really good talk and education on the importance of asking a lot of questions and not pulling the trigger until you have your answers whether you’re a seller or a buyer .
All I know is that I'd have the name, Address and the free time. If the loss is big enough they better run and hide if they try scamming me and the law doesn't rectify it.
Showing up at a buyer's job will 100% get you a restraining order. Judge won't care how good of a reason you have. Safest thing to do is hire a licensed P.I. to get details on the scammer.
I've had at least three chargebacks, each over $1000. Ebay's had my back each time. The "secret"? Signature Confirmation. Ship to the address provided. Not sure if this other seller followed policy to the T---but this is covered by Seller Protection if you do it properly. That being said, I'd be uncomfortable selling anything for anywhere near $7700 on Ebay! It's a lot less stressful selling mostly sub-$20 items these days.
@@flipistics4270 the bank was just keeping a customer. They lost nothing. eBay had to pay so they charged the seller. Why wouldn't eBay eat it? We do have seller protections right? We do, but not if you don't follow the rules. Like requiring a signature for anything over $750. $7,700 is enough money for a lawsuit or forced arbitration with eBay if all the rules were followed.
I have sold many many cards over 2k on ebay should have went through the verification process? All mine have, then your covered. But I also own a card shop, and would have done things different!
I recently had an item that was reported delivered back to me from fedex. I was at my office at the time and no packaged got delivered. Ebay told me that I was protected but since the tracking showed delivered I would have to go to fedex to get paperwork showing it was delivered elsewhere. So realistically ebay reps can tell you one thing but realistically we aren't protected as sellers. On another order I had to fill out an affidavit to be protected as a seller. Its disgusting and it's a huge part of why i can't wait to be off of ebay. Praying by end of this year.
I saw the video too. Very scary and odd. Ebay is getting bad these days for private buyers too. They hold your money until the end of month unless you withdraw it yourself. Now there are no fees but they will add a percentage on top for buyers. And in February they won't pay unless the item is delivered. So a usual postage stamp won't suffice anymore.
We saw that original video also from the Seller (Black Vault Market) who got scammed . What such internet thieves don't realize is, that act is a federal crime as it involves State to State transfer of goods, cybercrime, money exchange theft and whole slew of other things. The police and authorities will visit that person, after a police report is filed by the victim. If that seller hasn't done already, file a claim with the IC3 - cybercrime federal team, Postmaster, Police. Ebay should have made that Seller whole; shame on them. That seller is out of money, shipping, the products and fees.
The most expensive item I’ve sold online was around $1,100. My general rule for myself is to not sell anything over $749.99 because $750 or more requires a signature upon delivery (or that used to be the case; I haven’t checked the signature requirements in a while).
I had a Virgin Island return where ebay said they could not create a return label because it was an international return, however when I shipped it was considered domestic. So the return was automatically approved without a label, thoughts?
This happened to me over a year ago when a buyer opened a return for headphones (2 weeks after the 30 day window) claiming they didnt work. I declined the return and then they opened a chargeback with their bank. Ebay stole my money to give to them when im supposed to be 100% protected in that case. Buyer wasnt forced to return the item. At the time, i was going through a lot of stuff so didnt have the time to fight with ebay. Thankfully it was $30. What sucks is that as a seller, youre forced to go through ebay for everything. It's not like you have a way of contacting the financial institution with evidence or anything. Ebay doesn't even follow their own policies and are pretty much useless unless you get the right customer service agent. And in a case like this, the police will not help. You can't even sue because you dont have the buyer's legal information (likely fake address and name).
Denying a return is a death sentence for chargeback cases. Even if you have "no returns" on, the bank nor ebay will side with you. If the guy sends you back an empty box, you can a sign an affidavit and ebay will consider refunding you. You can also try to intercept the package but I havent heard of that working in quite a long time.
Whats scary is 5" of snow for you thus week. (I've got over a foot on the ground now with sub zero temps coming overnight) perhaps you need to leave your water dripping?
Yeah, I get nervous when I sell an expensive CD. I sold a couple of CDs last year for over $300 and they make me extremely nervous that some sort of scam is going to happen. Luckily, everything was fine.
I’ve seen eBay sellers sell something very expensive. And fly ✈️ to the buyers home to personally hand deliver the purchase. When there is high enough margin profit margin.
eBay did the same thing to me. I sold electronic for parts repair only. eBay denied the return but buyer did a cc charge back. eBay took the money back and they kept my item. eBay did nothing. Luckily I was only out $200 item. I will never sell anything high dollar on eBay.
I only had one experience like this one. It was a necklace and the person claimed to not recognize the charge with their credit card company. eBay handled it. The credit card company sided with the client, but eBay didn’t take the money back. 🤷🏻♀️
The sad part is if he goes to law enforcement they will probably tell him it's a civil dispute, even though this should be multiple felonies including federal mail fraud.
Also, if you’re selling something that’s so valuable and a special collection you should be going through the authentication process through eBay before it gets to the buyer. That’s just my thought. I’m not 100% sure if that was possible but I would damn sure make sure that I communicate to eBay and any potential buyers and cover all possibilities before I put those things in the mail. This seems like things just weren’t completely understood before processing such a valuable transaction. Maybe the guys a new seller I don’t know. I haven’t watched his video yet but it’s real easy to make mistakes and sometimes you have to pay to learnunfortunately. I hope that the guy figures out how to get his money back or his cards. I think denying a return is just overall a bad idea setting yourself up for some problems !
Not sure if this approach would scare away sellers - BUT... My eBay recommended policy change = Any item above $250, ,the seller must offer free returns. Perhaps that would have prevented this. Thoughts??
I’ve had a couple chargeback cases filed. I always get an email from eBay saying the case has been filed, you don’t need to do anything. Then I receive an email saying the case was closed and I keep my money. Maybe because it was fairly small amounts.
Always worries me because some credit cards dont even look at disputes. Also I believe ebay wont step in if the buyer claims "not as described"... His best case is just do small claims court.
Was that the RIFA cap that went bad on the Apple? The little yellow square one? You don't need it much, it's just to absorb power surges, but if you're running through a surge protector it'll be fine. If the computer won't come back on now, it may have shorted something when it popped. If it's not that capacitor, then yeah it definitely needs to be replaced. If you want to play around with it, you can get a little disk drive emulator now, you just plug it in and load up disks from a MicroSD card. Even has a little screen to pick your disks. It's cool.
@@shedflips Same here! Seems that's pretty common. I ordered a new one years ago but I've been using it ever since with no issues and still haven't gotten around to putting in that new one lol. The "BMOW Floppy Emu" is what I use to play games. You can also just hook up your phone to the headphone jack and there's a website where you can play old Apple software data tapes straight into your apple and load tape-based games. Works great and it's free! lol
Saw this poor guy's video after he posted it. Would using PayPal be better protection? Notice a lot of sellers insist on Paypal only rather than charging the card. PayPal also does not settle immediately but request for ebay correspondence before settling dispute.
That’s almost exactly what happened to another UA-camr a while back. They sold a bunch of really expensive cards then the buyer did what the person you’re talking about did, but eBay forced them to refund the buyer thousands of dollars while the buyer got to keep the cards. The buyer either changed their username or eBay banned them because nothing comes up.
As Candice said, I would be sick to my stomach. If I were the seller, I would peruse every avenue possible with that buyer. Yes, it may cost him/her but he/she is out over seven grand. Thinking this probably isn’t the first time that buyer has pulled something like this. Hope he/she gets caught and has to make every “buy” right. This person, like so many others in today’s world have sold their soul for the almighty buck.☹️☹️
eBay seller for over 25 years. Perfect feedback. I lost money on ebay because buyer contested transaction with his bank. eBay says bank decision overides their decision. I asked Csut Service , how do I know eBay sent all the proof to bank, including proof of return label I sent to buyer, that refused to return. They said they do not disclose that information...
That video popped up in my feed today as well. I havnt watched it yet, I’m always skeptical when I only hear one side of the story from a UA-camr , their maybe factors that he is leaving out.
Unsure what your laws are like in the USA but shouldn't this seller take this case to his local police station? Online Fraud and this buyer has literally robbed him at this point?
I sold a airplane part on eBay to a person in Europe and he put in for refund after it was shipped he made multiple false claims he got my part and eBay charged me 1400 dollars and refunded him as well i fought for months and still had to pay the 1400 after multiple eBay employees told me i would be in the clear,
Many years ago, I bought a painting that was in an auction on eBay. But what happened after I won the item, I get sent a note from the seller that they can't sell the painting for the amount i bid! I had been so excited to get the painting for $150! It was really beautiful. It was of a crane flying and the background was all gold leaf. Anyway, I didn't celebrate long. I wrote back to the Seller that I won the auction fair and square and if they had a price that they wouldn't sell the painting for and why didn't they put a reserve on it. They told me they were new at selling on eBay and they just could not sell the painting for $150. I didn't fight it. I let them keep the painting and told them they were idiots and that they better learn how the auctions work before they start posting items. It left a really bad taste in my mouth, so I don't do auctions anymore. Stuff happens on eBay.
I sold a football card for $1200.00 before the eBay authentication process started. The guy filed a return without even contacting me. I accepted the return. He shipped me back a box with a card that was maybe $3.00 and I lost the case. I lost the card and the refund. I thought about making a trip and it was 2500 miles. $7700.00 I fly there. I am not trying to sound tough, but my mind and who I am would not let me sit at home and not go to handle it in some way.
I think the reason eBay isn't doing anything is because they told the seller to decline the return and because of that, the seller lost out. Whether or not the seller had a no return policy, I probably would have had the buyer return them. He still should get the police involved.
He should have excepted the return. The guy probably realized he couldn’t afford it and in that situation, you know he’s gonna do a chargeback if he can’t get a refund. Denying it you’re just setting yourself up for problems. It also would be an act of kindness to save the guy who made a bad financial decision. We’ve all done it.
@@dereknankivell1604I don’t automatically assume the guy is a scammer. I think he bought it on impulse had buyers remorse. Realized he could not afford it or his spouse got mad. He wanted the money back. All the excuses were to justify getting get the return.
not for anything but if that happened to me, I'm going taking a trip to the shipping address provided and seeing what's going on. I hate to say it but there's some bad people out there, luckily they don't have TOTAL control. I'd bring the police out there with me and if they couldn't do anything for me then I'd sue him to high hell. THEN I'm taking eBay to court as well for letting a person like that scam their seller out of so much money, when WE as sellers pay them to protect us
eBay does a terrible job contesting against chargebacks. Sellers should be allowed to contest chargebacks against buyers banks themselves. Or there should be a class action lawsuit to force eBay to make chargeback process transaparent to buyers.
Haven't watched Lonnie's opinion yet, but here's my reaction: Bad seller. 1. Didn't address the buyer's problem in his first message. Most customer service problems can be headed off at this stage before they become problems. 2. Refused a presumably genuine change-of-mind return. Regardless the eBay reps' advice, treating customers decently stops good buyers from turning into bad buyers. 3. Got upset and called the buyer a liar. Even though he was lying at that stage, saying so does nothing to resolve the situation in the seller's favour, but further entrenches the buyer. 4. Wasted his time arguing with the buyer and with eBay CS instead of putting in an official challenge to the chargeback. The professional way to deal with it is to go over the heads of buyer and CS monkeys and talk to the financial institution, acting like a lawyer, showing clear evidence of where the buyer broke the law and the Ts&Cs, without any emotional nonsense.
It never should have happened because with all that feedback you know it's not the scammer's first rodeo. His account's gone now (I went to block it, immediately), but I for one will never accept offers from people who are so proud of being evil they show you who they are in their account handles. My policy is only to do business with honest, respectable people. That guy's handle is proof enough to me that he's Trouble. I received an offer one time from someone in China who called himself Erwin Rommel. Nope, besides the fact that I only sell stateside, lol.
I watched that Video -- scary as Ebay don't even say anything to help Ebay sellers..The thief got his money back and also the cards and Ebay does nothing to get the cards back for the seller..Unbelievable
Stop shipment (insert shipper here). If they haven't received the item yet and they're complaining about some stupid thing. Pay for it to be intercepted.
Im super paranoid right now! I just made my first ever sale at a 1000 dollars and i know i will end up on UA-cam if i get screwed over im making the front page
That man should go jail! I can't imagine moron! Thanks for sharing!😢 hope ebay wakes up!😢 I hope your day is awsome ! Huggicates and love Candance and Lonnie! ❤😊❤
ebay - reps have been backpetal alot. sometimes when you speak to a rep and say, didn't you see in the "notes"/previous rep... all they say is sorry that happened to you/that wasn't correct information. WILD.
The mistake the seller made was declining return request. If the customer requests a return and opens a return request, 99% I will agree, even though I might know in some circumstances it's not my fault. Its good business and it leaves a paper trail for Ebay to step in later on if needed.
@@chrisfriday7666 We still don't know if it had signature required. It's required for seller protection but that doesn't mean the seller added it. It's not automatic. Sellers still have to add it when buying the label.
Hey guys, I would bet that some of your viewers would buy "Lonnie's Losers Donate Box" if you sold them on eBay after you had collected enough to fill a 8"x8" Cubed box. What do you think?
I would never sell anything that expensive on eBay. If the collection is that valuable you would be better to do research to find an appropriate auction house and try that instead.
Why would you sell something that expensive on eBay? You should not & for that much money I would hand deliver it to the buyer on video. They need an escrow service for high value items.
A few years ago I saw a story on UA-cam about a guy who had his engine stolen in this manner. He was eventually able to get a police report and took the sheriff to the guys house and was able to get his engine back.
I watched his video. A 30 year seller here. As soon as he asked to return it. I would have accepted it with no questions asked. Better to take the return than have a upset buyer. Once you accept the return. It's on him to return in time and in the same condition it was sent to him in. Take the return. Relist the item. And live to fight another day.
The buyer was never going to return it is the point. It was a scam.
@peterdangelo5882 You don't know that for sure. But if you approve the return, eBay will cover you with the seller protection policy. That's why you always accept the return!
Agreed: "As soon as I receive the cards back in the exact condition as when I sent them, I'll get your refund right out to you." If I'm not mistaken, taken that path, the seller might have a way to issue a partial refund if something is amiss with the return, BUT - that might all depend on the return policy of the store.
@@wilson9999100unfortunately eBay tends to side with the seller anyways. I have been scammed with a $1k laptop before. I accepted the return request, got something different and eBay still sided with seller
It’s felony theft and involves the postal service. He needs to see a lawyer NOW!
I’m wondering if the seller has the PSA certification numbers saved somewhere. These cards can all be tracked if they’re being sold.
Your videos are by far my favorites on UA-cam so never stop please❤
I love watching every episode and I am glad you are getting the clutter out of the aisles. Have you considered cleaning under your packing tables? It looked like there is a bunch of debris under them. Your inventory shelves even have wheels and you could pull them out once a year and clean behind them. You may find a missing item that fell off the back of a shelf. I just happened to notice the stuff under the tables, etc from a quick scene that was down by the ground.
I never list anything that I can't afford to lose that amount of money, $1000 seems to be the max I feel comfortable with and even that depends on what it is. If I had an iPhone I would be selling local for cash just too many scammers in electronics but I have sold multiple vintage collectibles for around $1000. They are just different sets of buyers. If this had happened to me though, I would be filing charges.
I did sell some things in the thousand dollar price range, but it was back 10-20 years ago and the buyers were honorable. I don't even sell on eBay any more. Anything that big I'd do through a local auction house. They take a bigger percentage, but thievery is someone else's problem.
We hope that ya'll are safe and warm during the winter storm. Our prayers are with you and your family. ThePauls Texas
Ebay does not care about their buyers or sellers. They care only about making as much money as possible and the path of least resistance
Then don't buy or sell on ebay.
@paularndt1 Whether or not I buy or sell on Ebay has nothing at all to do with my comment.
That’s really not true.
There’s a lot wrong with this whole story.
I’ve had similar things happen as a seller, but eBay has always had my back.
The seller in this situation should have taken great care to communicate with the buyer, especially given the dollar amount. Before sending cards at all. The seller reserves the right to cancel an order if they suspect something fishy. And if the seller did ask all the right questions they would’ve noticed that either the buyer was not responding or answered the questions weird or that he flat out. Wanted to cancel before they were shipped.
It’s a rotten situation altogether if the seller is indeed not getting that money back, but there just has to be more to the story than that .
This is all just really good talk and education on the importance of asking a lot of questions and not pulling the trigger until you have your answers whether you’re a seller or a buyer .
They are a business to make money so that makes sense
wrong the buyer does not wrong
All I know is that I'd have the name, Address and the free time. If the loss is big enough they better run and hide if they try scamming me and the law doesn't rectify it.
Amen brother. Id be at his front door testing how psycho he is compared to me
I thought Lonnie meant he would hire a hit man 😮 😂 My mind ran away with "taking a drive to see this guy"
Showing up at a buyer's job will 100% get you a restraining order. Judge won't care how good of a reason you have. Safest thing to do is hire a licensed P.I. to get details on the scammer.
Would contacting the police first be better?
I've had at least three chargebacks, each over $1000. Ebay's had my back each time. The "secret"? Signature Confirmation. Ship to the address provided. Not sure if this other seller followed policy to the T---but this is covered by Seller Protection if you do it properly. That being said, I'd be uncomfortable selling anything for anywhere near $7700 on Ebay! It's a lot less stressful selling mostly sub-$20 items these days.
GREAT POINT! I wonder if he had signature required. 🤔
I suspect not accepting the return request might be what tipped the scale with the bank.
@@flipistics4270 the bank was just keeping a customer. They lost nothing. eBay had to pay so they charged the seller. Why wouldn't eBay eat it? We do have seller protections right? We do, but not if you don't follow the rules. Like requiring a signature for anything over $750. $7,700 is enough money for a lawsuit or forced arbitration with eBay if all the rules were followed.
Signature confirmation does nothing for INAD chargebacks.
I have sold many many cards over 2k on ebay should have went through the verification process? All mine have, then your covered. But I also own a card shop, and would have done things different!
FBI case. He's done this before and it's interstate commerce. I'd file a case.
Unfortunately this case would be too small for FBI.
Give it one more day, they might not even exist soon! LOL
I recently had an item that was reported delivered back to me from fedex. I was at my office at the time and no packaged got delivered. Ebay told me that I was protected but since the tracking showed delivered I would have to go to fedex to get paperwork showing it was delivered elsewhere. So realistically ebay reps can tell you one thing but realistically we aren't protected as sellers. On another order I had to fill out an affidavit to be protected as a seller. Its disgusting and it's a huge part of why i can't wait to be off of ebay. Praying by end of this year.
I saw the video too. Very scary and odd. Ebay is getting bad these days for private buyers too. They hold your money until the end of month unless you withdraw it yourself. Now there are no fees but they will add a percentage on top for buyers. And in February they won't pay unless the item is delivered. So a usual postage stamp won't suffice anymore.
Yes, that is true for UK buyers and sellers. The change isn't coming to the US eBay store.... yet.
@@redpiano1that's right I'm a brit
We saw that original video also from the Seller (Black Vault Market) who got scammed . What such internet thieves don't realize is, that act is a federal crime as it involves State to State transfer of goods, cybercrime, money exchange theft and whole slew of other things. The police and authorities will visit that person, after a police report is filed by the victim. If that seller hasn't done already, file a claim with the IC3 - cybercrime federal team, Postmaster, Police. Ebay should have made that Seller whole; shame on them. That seller is out of money, shipping, the products and fees.
I watched his video. That guy needs to call the police. He’s a victim of fraud.
The most expensive item I’ve sold online was around $1,100. My general rule for myself is to not sell anything over $749.99 because $750 or more requires a signature upon delivery (or that used to be the case; I haven’t checked the signature requirements in a while).
There is the EBay Vault ?
I had a Virgin Island return where ebay said they could not create a return label because it was an international return, however when I shipped it was considered domestic. So the return was automatically approved without a label, thoughts?
This happened to me over a year ago when a buyer opened a return for headphones (2 weeks after the 30 day window) claiming they didnt work. I declined the return and then they opened a chargeback with their bank. Ebay stole my money to give to them when im supposed to be 100% protected in that case. Buyer wasnt forced to return the item. At the time, i was going through a lot of stuff so didnt have the time to fight with ebay. Thankfully it was $30.
What sucks is that as a seller, youre forced to go through ebay for everything. It's not like you have a way of contacting the financial institution with evidence or anything.
Ebay doesn't even follow their own policies and are pretty much useless unless you get the right customer service agent.
And in a case like this, the police will not help. You can't even sue because you dont have the buyer's legal information (likely fake address and name).
This happened to me but I was only out $28. It still hurts, though. By the way, where did you get your photo box? Thanks.
Invisible marker. For electronic returns
Denying a return is a death sentence for chargeback cases. Even if you have "no returns" on, the bank nor ebay will side with you. If the guy sends you back an empty box, you can a sign an affidavit and ebay will consider refunding you. You can also try to intercept the package but I havent heard of that working in quite a long time.
Whats scary is 5" of snow for you thus week. (I've got over a foot on the ground now with sub zero temps coming overnight) perhaps you need to leave your water dripping?
Can't believe I've been watching your videos for so long. I remember the pre-Candice videos.
Yeah, I get nervous when I sell an expensive CD. I sold a couple of CDs last year for over $300 and they make me extremely nervous that some sort of scam is going to happen. Luckily, everything was fine.
If a chargeback is successful who is in charge of paying it? eBay or the seller?
I’ve seen eBay sellers sell something very expensive. And fly ✈️ to the buyers home to personally hand deliver the purchase. When there is high enough margin profit margin.
eBay did the same thing to me. I sold electronic for parts repair only. eBay denied the return but buyer did a cc charge back. eBay took the money back and they kept my item. eBay did nothing. Luckily I was only out $200 item. I will never sell anything high dollar on eBay.
I only had one experience like this one. It was a necklace and the person claimed to not recognize the charge with their credit card company. eBay handled it. The credit card company sided with the client, but eBay didn’t take the money back. 🤷🏻♀️
Hire a PI to get eyes on the set
But probably better off to consult an attorney
The sad part is if he goes to law enforcement they will probably tell him it's a civil dispute, even though this should be multiple felonies including federal mail fraud.
Also, if you’re selling something that’s so valuable and a special collection you should be going through the authentication process through eBay before it gets to the buyer. That’s just my thought. I’m not 100% sure if that was possible but I would damn sure make sure that I communicate to eBay and any potential buyers and cover all possibilities before I put those things in the mail.
This seems like things just weren’t completely understood before processing such a valuable transaction.
Maybe the guys a new seller I don’t know. I haven’t watched his video yet but it’s real easy to make mistakes and sometimes you have to pay to learnunfortunately.
I hope that the guy figures out how to get his money back or his cards.
I think denying a return is just overall a bad idea setting yourself up for some problems !
Not sure if this approach would scare away sellers - BUT... My eBay recommended policy change = Any item above $250, ,the seller must offer free returns. Perhaps that would have prevented this. Thoughts??
How would free returns have prevented that?
I know that some sellers video record their packing table in order to provide further evidence as to what is shipped in each box.
A can of green paint forces a 4-1/2 minute digression on laying carpet. I'm 63 and do the same thing. Lonnie, you could do a whole video on your shed.
They’re on this channel. Cool to watch.
I’ve had a couple chargeback cases filed. I always get an email from eBay saying the case has been filed, you don’t need to do anything. Then I receive an email saying the case was closed and I keep my money. Maybe because it was fairly small amounts.
Always worries me because some credit cards dont even look at disputes. Also I believe ebay wont step in if the buyer claims "not as described"...
His best case is just do small claims court.
There’s a thread on the ebay UK Community forums. £10k fraud, orders Apple Macs, receives cereal boxes. Hoping eBay steps in to save the situation.
Was that the RIFA cap that went bad on the Apple? The little yellow square one? You don't need it much, it's just to absorb power surges, but if you're running through a surge protector it'll be fine. If the computer won't come back on now, it may have shorted something when it popped. If it's not that capacitor, then yeah it definitely needs to be replaced. If you want to play around with it, you can get a little disk drive emulator now, you just plug it in and load up disks from a MicroSD card. Even has a little screen to pick your disks. It's cool.
Yeh the rifa cap went bad, started smoking after the computer was running for about 5 minutes
@@shedflips Same here! Seems that's pretty common. I ordered a new one years ago but I've been using it ever since with no issues and still haven't gotten around to putting in that new one lol. The "BMOW Floppy Emu" is what I use to play games. You can also just hook up your phone to the headphone jack and there's a website where you can play old Apple software data tapes straight into your apple and load tape-based games. Works great and it's free! lol
Saw this poor guy's video after he posted it. Would using PayPal be better protection? Notice a lot of sellers insist on Paypal only rather than charging the card. PayPal also does not settle immediately but request for ebay correspondence before settling dispute.
As soon as scammers sense a weakness they will be all over it. That's why ebay has to crack down hard.
"Shed Green" should be an official Behr color name! 😄
That’s almost exactly what happened to another UA-camr a while back. They sold a bunch of really expensive cards then the buyer did what the person you’re talking about did, but eBay forced them to refund the buyer thousands of dollars while the buyer got to keep the cards. The buyer either changed their username or eBay banned them because nothing comes up.
Yeah I happen to see that video also. He should probably take that to a lawyer.
Can you explain the “it’s been a while” singing? You do it mostly every video but I don’t get the reference?
It's from a song of the same name by the band Staind from 2001.
As Candice said, I would be sick to my stomach. If I were the seller, I would peruse every avenue possible with that buyer. Yes, it may cost him/her but he/she is out over seven grand. Thinking this probably isn’t the first time that buyer has pulled something like this. Hope he/she gets caught and has to make every “buy” right. This person, like so many others in today’s world have sold their soul for the almighty buck.☹️☹️
eBay seller for over 25 years. Perfect feedback. I lost money on ebay because buyer contested transaction with his bank. eBay says bank decision overides their decision. I asked Csut Service , how do I know eBay sent all the proof to bank, including proof of return label I sent to buyer, that refused to return. They said they do not disclose that information...
Now you know why some refuse to sell valuable items on eBay. I started selling on eBay in 2004 and stopped in December 2022.
Just had a chargeback for $150. The financial service backed the buyer but EBay covered it with seller protection.
That video popped up in my feed today as well. I havnt watched it yet, I’m always skeptical when I only hear one side of the story from a UA-camr , their maybe factors that he is leaving out.
As far as I can see the buyer has been removed from eBay or closed their account. The seller should have tried to recall the package.
Wow. Thanks for sharing this. Wow
I’ve had bank charge backs on eBay and won all of them because the tracking shows delivered to the address on file for the buyer
Unsure what your laws are like in the USA but shouldn't this seller take this case to his local police station? Online Fraud and this buyer has literally robbed him at this point?
For that price I think a sports auction would have been a better option.
I remember the old peel and stick flooring not fun for Lonnie 🙈
I sold a airplane part on eBay to a person in Europe and he put in for refund after it was shipped he made multiple false claims he got my part and eBay charged me 1400 dollars and refunded him as well i fought for months and still had to pay the 1400 after multiple eBay employees told me i would be in the clear,
Great 😊
Many years ago, I bought a painting that was in an auction on eBay. But what happened after I won the item, I get sent a note from the seller that they can't sell the painting for the amount i bid! I had been so excited to get the painting for $150! It was really beautiful. It was of a crane flying and the background was all gold leaf. Anyway, I didn't celebrate long. I wrote back to the Seller that I won the auction fair and square and if they had a price that they wouldn't sell the painting for and why didn't they put a reserve on it. They told me they were new at selling on eBay and they just could not sell the painting for $150. I didn't fight it. I let them keep the painting and told them they were idiots and that they better learn how the auctions work before they start posting items. It left a really bad taste in my mouth, so I don't do auctions anymore. Stuff happens on eBay.
For that price, I'd have took it myself to his door 😂
I sold a football card for $1200.00 before the eBay authentication process started. The guy filed a return without even contacting me. I accepted the return. He shipped me back a box with a card that was maybe $3.00 and I lost the case. I lost the card and the refund. I thought about making a trip and it was 2500 miles. $7700.00 I fly there. I am not trying to sound tough, but my mind and who I am would not let me sit at home and not go to handle it in some way.
I think the reason eBay isn't doing anything is because they told the seller to decline the return and because of that, the seller lost out. Whether or not the seller had a no return policy, I probably would have had the buyer return them. He still should get the police involved.
I just seen you are forecasted 7” of snow. Go get stuff from storage and hunker down. Stay safe.
For Lego sets that are valuable get pieces off brickseek to complete them and get extra value out of it.
He should have excepted the return. The guy probably realized he couldn’t afford it and in that situation, you know he’s gonna do a chargeback if he can’t get a refund. Denying it you’re just setting yourself up for problems. It also would be an act of kindness to save the guy who made a bad financial decision. We’ve all done it.
Return scam would have probably happened then
@@dereknankivell1604I don’t automatically assume the guy is a scammer. I think he bought it on impulse had buyers remorse. Realized he could not afford it or his spouse got mad. He wanted the money back. All the excuses were to justify getting get the return.
I will never sell on ebay again. They screwed me from a buyer and I had all the proof they received item... Ebay is a history lesson for me
This might get resolved in small claims court in my opinion
not for anything but if that happened to me, I'm going taking a trip to the shipping address provided and seeing what's going on. I hate to say it but there's some bad people out there, luckily they don't have TOTAL control. I'd bring the police out there with me and if they couldn't do anything for me then I'd sue him to high hell. THEN I'm taking eBay to court as well for letting a person like that scam their seller out of so much money, when WE as sellers pay them to protect us
eBay does a terrible job contesting against chargebacks. Sellers should be allowed to contest chargebacks against buyers banks themselves. Or there should be a class action lawsuit to force eBay to make chargeback process transaparent to buyers.
Haven't watched Lonnie's opinion yet, but here's my reaction:
Bad seller.
1. Didn't address the buyer's problem in his first message. Most customer service problems can be headed off at this stage before they become problems.
2. Refused a presumably genuine change-of-mind return. Regardless the eBay reps' advice, treating customers decently stops good buyers from turning into bad buyers.
3. Got upset and called the buyer a liar. Even though he was lying at that stage, saying so does nothing to resolve the situation in the seller's favour, but further entrenches the buyer.
4. Wasted his time arguing with the buyer and with eBay CS instead of putting in an official challenge to the chargeback. The professional way to deal with it is to go over the heads of buyer and CS monkeys and talk to the financial institution, acting like a lawyer, showing clear evidence of where the buyer broke the law and the Ts&Cs, without any emotional nonsense.
It never should have happened because with all that feedback you know it's not the scammer's first rodeo. His account's gone now (I went to block it, immediately), but I for one will never accept offers from people who are so proud of being evil they show you who they are in their account handles. My policy is only to do business with honest, respectable people. That guy's handle is proof enough to me that he's Trouble. I received an offer one time from someone in China who called himself Erwin Rommel. Nope, besides the fact that I only sell stateside, lol.
I watched that Video -- scary as Ebay don't even say anything to help Ebay sellers..The thief got his money back and also the cards and Ebay does nothing to get the cards back for the seller..Unbelievable
Stop shipment (insert shipper here).
If they haven't received the item yet and they're complaining about some stupid thing. Pay for it to be intercepted.
If I am not mistaken I fo not believe police get involved in civil matters. Lawsuit perhaps
I haven’t watched the other video yet, but denying a return is a mistake in most cases.
I'd for sure show up at the guys house with either a police escort or 5 of my largest friends escort.
Im super paranoid right now! I just made my first ever sale at a 1000 dollars and i know i will end up on UA-cam if i get screwed over im making the front page
6:39 good point
Four lost disputes at $25 a piece for $125?! Math doesn’t math
That man should go jail! I can't imagine moron! Thanks for sharing!😢 hope ebay wakes up!😢 I hope your day is awsome ! Huggicates and love Candance and Lonnie! ❤😊❤
ebay - reps have been backpetal alot. sometimes when you speak to a rep and say, didn't you see in the "notes"/previous rep... all they say is sorry that happened to you/that wasn't correct information. WILD.
The mistake the seller made was declining return request. If the customer requests a return and opens a return request, 99% I will agree, even though I might know in some circumstances it's not my fault. Its good business and it leaves a paper trail for Ebay to step in later on if needed.
I have watched it I would have reported him to the police or as you said the FBI or go to his house and find out what is going on.
Just realizing I’ve been here a VERY long time. Maybe 1-2 years before Candace joined the shed. Wow.
eBay over $750 signature required.
That doesn't stop what's being referred to here
@attackbuttongaming I am stating fact. He said he didn't know if the other person had signature required or not.
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We still don't know if it had signature required.
It's required for seller protection but that doesn't mean the seller added it. It's not automatic. Sellers still have to add it when buying the label.
"A buck a whack"...lol You are saying that all the time now. :)
Hey guys, I would bet that some of your viewers would buy "Lonnie's Losers Donate Box" if you sold them on eBay after you had collected enough to fill a 8"x8" Cubed box. What do you think?
Don't go to the buyers police go to yours because you don't want to go to court far away, make him drive or fly for court dates.
that will not work as you would have to serve him in his state.
When it's that much money, he needs to go to the police. Sometimes these people are part of a network.
I would never sell anything that expensive on eBay. If the collection is that valuable you would be better to do research to find an appropriate auction house and try that instead.
The buyer username is no longer valid. The buyer apparently changed his username after this incident.
The seller made alot of mistakes. He should get a lawyer. If you have no returns on this is much more likely to happen
Small claims Ebay and settle
I have some jewelry worth thousands that I want to sell but not on eBay.
just watched the story, what a jerk to do this to that seller.
Why would you sell something that expensive on eBay? You should not & for that much money I would hand deliver it to the buyer on video.
They need an escrow service for high value items.
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