SEGA CANCELED this console in 1995, so I made one TODAY | SEGA Neptune
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Back in 1995 Sega announced Project Neptune which was slated to be released that same year. Neptune was a new console that combined a Genesis and 32X into a single sleek package. But due to the impending release of the company’s next generation console, the Saturn, Sega decided to cancel Neptune. So 27 years later, due to a lot of hard work from the retro modding community, we now have a way to make our very own Sega Neptune!
Hey everyone! One thing I failed to mention in the video was that the “modular” Neptune build that I did was largely developed by PCBAssembly99. He pioneered the use of a 3BP in conjunction with the Neptune mod and also the unique method of flipping over the 32X board while using the longer ribbon cables so that it can be used with the 90 degree cartridge connector. He also made a bill of material that you can reference which has all the items I used in my tutorial for the Neptune build, which is linked here: www.mediafire.com/file/tupgzr...
He also posted a build guide on GBATEMP linked here: gbatemp.net/blogs/blog/sega-n...
Again, a huge thank you to everyone who contributed to this project!
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Hey everyone! One thing I failed to mention in the video was that the “modular” Neptune build that I did was largely developed by PCBAssembly99. He pioneered the use of a 3BP in conjunction with the Neptune mod and also the unique method of flipping over the 32X board while using the longer ribbon cables so that it can be used with the 90 degree cartridge connector. He also made a bill of material that you can reference which has all the items I used in my tutorial for the Neptune build, which is linked here: www.mediafire.com/file/tupgzrchjqbmw0l/BOM.zip/file
He also posted a build guide on GBATEMP linked here: gbatemp.net/blogs/blog/sega-neptune-building-a-sega-neptune.4931/details
Again, a huge thank you to everyone who contributed to this project!
Please don't use bad sound model 2 Genesis like 2009 diy neptunes
3:10 oh no 😢
8:18 I think it's cool motherboard says MARS
Can it hook up to an actual sega cd?
@@randyhayden3159 Yes. It works. That's why I included one in the build pictures.
@@legendsflashback Most Sega Projects were named after planets in the Solar System.
You guys should get together and make a combo Genesis, CD, 32X all-in-one. That'd be so sick.
That'd be great, a Sega Jupiter of some sorts
I agree with this. I'd buy one in a heartbeat!
dude i have all those, even the suitcase pc engine cd add-on
@@retrocatalog
A custom motherboard PCB with the components from the 32X, CD and MegaDrive would be neat. Making it fit the SEGA Saturn shell would also remove the need for completely custom shell designs, given brand new SEGA Saturn shells are being made. Any necessary cuts like the cartridge slot wouldn't need to be done to original shells. And I'm sure the Sega (Mega)CD II's disc mechanism could be made to work in there too.
@@Dan-TechAndMusic This is actually what I was thinking. Repurposing the Saturn's cartridge slot (which was rumored to initially be a backwards compatibility Genesis/Mega Drive slot, no idea if that was ever proven legit or false) would be brilliant. I think it would only be a difficult build in GETTING a spare Saturn shell for most people.
Making the Sega Saturn backwards compatible with Genesis, Sega CD and 32X games should’ve been a no-brainer, especially when for years I thought the cartridge slot on top of the console was for inserting Genesis and 32X games.
I was today years old when I found out why Neptune was named Neptune in Hyperdimension Neptunia.......
The mad man did it! Neptunia would be proud.
Nep/10 work
Ah, I see you're person culture as well
Nep Nep.
This is definitely a TOP NEP mod
THE DEMON OF BABYLON DISGUISES HERSELF WITH THE COAT OF THE RIGHTEOUS
I've had 0 interest in the neptune mod with it in a standard shell.. but now that there's a neptune shell. The project is actually interesting again! Very cool
4:43
MiSter FPGA hardware emulator can be used in casing
People like to take sides on original hardware or FPGA or Software emulation. I say.. why not all three! @@sanctuskerah
Great build. One small tip......When applying waterslide decals, always apply to a gloss surface, then clear coat back to matte. You will avoid that weird silvering look from the decal film AND the clear coat will protect the decals from being scratched off. Or use rub transfers.
Great job, Tito and Dan! I‘m absolutely blown away with the results of this Neptune build.
Thank you!
Tito's video is mostly all my modular build, using infidelity_nes direct 9DIN breakout method.
See PCBASSEMBLY99 where I have posted the BOM needed for the project.
Please let me know if you need any help.
So glad to see this mod is getting more attention. It’s not exactly cheap, but its definitely really impressive. What would be epic is to see somebody like RetroGameRestore injection mould these and sell it as a mod kit. And or use this design to create an FPGA clone console like the Mega SG but with 32X support.
As a practicing physician I have time for simple mods only- which this certainly isn’t! But as I still have a childhood 32x/genesis in a box somewhere, a mod service sounds great and I’m sure someone would profit by it 😮
@@drphilxr Yes but that’s a lot to pay for a case. Unless you provide all of those parts.
With a large enough community to buy the mod shells, injection can become viable, but you do need quite a lot of people to fork out the tooling (think quite a few thousands of dollars in molds).
I imagine silicone mold vacuum injection might be a good middle ground (or rather, for low volume, the perfect solution).
3D Printing it would cost thousands less than injection molding. I used to work in an injection molding plant. The molds are like 10,000 a piece, not to mention the cost of the machine they need to be installed in.
@@gueropalma6649 3D printing is also going to look like 3D printing, unfortunately.
We had the CDX (MD/CD), successfully recreated the Neptune (MD/32X), now it’s hopefully only a matter of time until the ultimate Sega Genesis is created:
A MD/CD/32X all-in-one!!!
Why stop there? How about a Saturn, backward compatible with the Sega CD, with the Neptune taking up the cartridge slot? Nah, that's just crazy talk...
@@mrpink99That would be quite the pull from Uranus. 😉
Buy a Laser Active.
you have done a lot of interesting console mods over the years, but this is definitely one of my top 3 favorites of your channel.
Yep! From all the console mods he made, I would like to build THIS one myself.
Tito's video is mostly all my modular build, using infidelity_nes direct 9DIN breakout method.
See PCBASSEMBLY99 where I have posted the BOM needed for the project.
Please let me know if you need any help.
Tito, you just apply a little molykote grease around the edges of the button. If the button has tight tolerances to it's surround, a little grease will prevent the edges grounding into each other. Nice video, great work as ever. I love that this exists. Cool console.
Macho Nacho does what Sega Can't 😂
I can’t help but wonder how much further the Genesis hardware can be pushed as we learn more about it. I’d really love to see if you could mod this with HDMI out, and it’d also be cool to see what the whole package looks like with the Sega CD as well.
Feels like a beta Sega Saturn.
Missed opportunity to call it the "Beta Saturn".
Technically it was, SOA realized the Saturn's design was really complicated to code for so they made the 32X with the same dual SH2 processors to get devs used to it.
Saturn comes before Neptune, makes you wonder if Saturn project started before Neptune
Another project will be Sega Mars Micro or Mini
It's a shame the Saturn doesn't play 32x, but they would have had to emulate the genesis somewhere and probably pretty flawlessly
Been a sub for some time now and I just wanna say how much I love your format. The build process, the pros and cons..and on top of that, you seem to make a video EVERY WEEK?! Keep up the hard work Tito!!
Its so crazy that even a decade ago, if you told me that you could build your very own Sega Neptune, i would think youre crazy.
Wonder when/if we will see Tito Tackle the Xbox One X and that unpopulated M.2 slot.
Ooooooh. Now we’re DEFINITELY at the NEXTLEVEL.
This feels like playing against the rules of what we could do, even if your channel has done this many times in the past. I kinda want to do this for historical purposes 😅.
Awesome Job Tito!
Tip for the spacers, I always keep the ones that come with TV wall mounting kits. Ready made with no trimming👍🏻
Smart!
Always? How often do you mount a TV to a wall? 😅
@@mickeymaus1 fair enough🤣 I've purchased 4 mounting kits over the course of around 6 years... So I've got a decent collection of spacers🤷🏻♂️
@@damonwalden5699 I did it one time in 12 years and moved it 2 times at the same wall… next time I will order a new one instead to keep the spacers for never build my own Neptune just for the option to… 🤣
@@mickeymaus1😂
I'm not going to lie. Your tutorial is the best one I've seen. I have actually destroyed 4 model 2 Sega Genesis and 32X trying to make this over the years. This has given me hope that I can create one for myself. Thank you!
That's cool! Aside from the cost, this is up my alley. I have seen the mod inside of a Genesis shell, and wasn't crazy about all the loose wires, but I figured it was only a matter of time before someone came up with this type of project.
Would love to see Melissa Fahn's reaction to this knowing that her character specifically named after the SEGA Neptune and namesake for the Neptunia franchise of JRPGs is finally real
the one thing i would have added would have been a clear mat finish that would protect the paintwork and seal in the water decals.fantastic build Tito!
Absolutely beautiful. As a Sega fan, this takes the cake of all Sega mods. Kudos to EVERYONE for making this a reality!
Only 2 cables on the back, that alone is a win! A very clean build!
Amazing build as always! One tip for tapping bosses "screw posts" is to take a Dremel with a cutoff wheel and very carefully cut a small slot in the screw threads. This creates a way for the plastic shavings to not jam up inside the boss which can crack it. Given that the shell is SLA resin you have to be even more careful when doing this as I have exploded many SLA bosses and had to epoxy the ever loving hell out of them and re-tap them.
Can relate with how annoying tapping SLA prints can be... I've used an actual tap 1st time I did it, and did a few test pieces before to check the hole clearance.
Even with a tap (in fact what you did with slotting a screw, just like those PC fan screws that do exactly that), when the hole was just 0.1mm too small I cracked the damn test part, and increasing that 0.1mm made it a bit lose...
I wonder what kind of techniques would be effective to add threaded inserts to resin prints, maybe just epoxy gluing them and that's it?
Awesome build! Thank you for this video. Never had Sega Genesis or Saturn, but i love how looks games of that age and consoles design.
This is beautiful. Great work to everyone involved. It's really cool you have the option of restoring it, if desired, too.
I wish Sega would have delayed the Saturn to make it a better 3D machine as the PSX destroyed it and for the time being released the Neptune. I would actually have loved it if Sega had a Neptune that also integrated the Sega CD. A Genesis/32X/CD in one would have been awesome. And it would have been nice if there was more time for more 32X games to be developed.
This could have been a console to take on the Super Nintendo for a while longer. What Sega could have done is ensure that the Neptune's software was compatible with the Saturn.
When the Saturn eventually was released, you also released a compatible CD player for the Neptune bringing both in line (any extra grunt the new Saturn came with was enclosed in the CD attachment).
Maybe it happened in a parallel universe.
It looks 100% like an off the shelf product. Fantastic work on the video and the community!
Bro you're soldering skills are getting outrageous even growing a lot since I want you from the beginning lots of love I hope to get that way someday to my friend
I like watching your videos. Console modding has come a long way since I first saw Ben Heck in Wired Magazine almost 20 years ago. Very cool.
I’ve been watching your videos for years and never commented. “First time, long time”.
In a genre with a lot of creators, yours stand out as especially good. You take on such interesting projects, give helpful tips along the way, have excellent pacing, and make all the builds feel approachable.
They’ve inspired me to take on a few fun build projects and served as guides along the way.
Cheers to retro gaming and your videos!
I love watching these modding videos because there’s absolutely a limit to my modding capabilities, but it sure is fun to see the process and end result of the vastly more difficult ones.
I bet you could do this if you really gave it your all:) the real trick is finding a 32x and getting the right genesis haha
Really, the only modding I've done were IPS screens on two GBAs and one GBA SP, and a Picoboot.
This is a work of art! There are two things I love most about this; as far as the boards inside go, it still kind of has that behemoth/frankenstein's monster vibe going on. Secondly, the addition of two DMG screws is adorable.
This is incredible! Now I can imagine a cheeky upgrade that ALSO incorporates the Mega CD into the mix. Would it be called the Sega Solar? Sega Galaxy?
That would be an impressive mod to see
Users might want to do the 32x audio fix mod while doing all this work.
Maybe a capacitor replacement too…. But what would really be neat is to integrate the Master System player too!
what about the 32X audio needs fixing?
@@RWL2012 I should have said video noise. You have to google it as UA-cam keeps deleting my posts with a link
Yeah if you're going to do all this work, you might as well replace the electrolytic capacitors too, they're 25+ years old at this point.
this ain't no emulated build, audio can't be fixed.
audio by any means is hard to make better even with emulation. only thing you can do is run it trough a filter and upscale treble via emulation, but this is a original build, anolog and therefor you can't use HDMI either.
otherwise he would have made a raspberry pi build
This is fantastic! The shell looks gorgeous, nicely done.
Hi! I'm new in your channel. But a just love in your projects. Just Amazing!
I just want to say that this channel is still so underrated , thank you for th awesome content
I like how I learned about this console from Hyperdimension Neptunia.
Quite an incredible project, to bring to existence something that never hit the market, and not even having in hand the museum prototypes to base the shell on, is sure a work of passion.
About injection molding the shells: the models themselves are there already, but the cost of the tooling is astronomic. You'll want to gather at least 1000 buyers to fork out the tooling for it to be worth it, since it can go into several thousands of dollars, specially at the size of the device. I work with that kinda stuff so I don't get shocked anymore when I see a small product tooling cost go upwards of 40 thousand dollars (rather, I'm glad it's that CHEAP. It can get insane with big parts).
One option for reducing the tooling cost for lower production batches/final prototypes is silicone molds with vacuum injection, you don't get near as many parts of the same molds, but the cost is far lower (albeit I haven't used this service yet to know the difference in costs). Still, you'll be forking quite a bit of cash so it takes a community to join up and pre-purchase it.
Spot on!
The mockup made by Sega for the only existing photos of the Neptune is sitting in a museum somewhere in the US. There's a video on UA-cam showcasing it from all angles. I wonder if the design of this fan-build took it into consideration, or if there's room for slight changes in the future because of it.
Absolutely LOVE this build and the fantastic shell! Turned out fantastic! Has anyone figured out a good solution (if possible) for integrating a Sega CD, too? Just curious!
Can’t wait for the Black Belt build 🥋
That is really cool. Appreciate all the work you and everyone put into this.
How have I not seen this channel before? Subbed! All I need is a 32x :p
Happy Thanksgiving! This is an absolutely awesome mod. I see that the expansion connector is still available but does the shell mod allow it to be able to connect to an actual Sega CD?
yes it is
@@gawlikcreations6956 Oh that's sweet. 🔥 Thank you.
You can play sega cd games off certain flash carts
@@JarlBarbossa Oh I know. But I want to connect it to the thing and play the actual discs. As dumb as that sounds. Lol. But he did say in the video that it made it so Sega CD games don't work on the Everdrive.
I brought 3 Neptunes back from Japan 20 years ago. Don't ask how I got them from Sega, someone will get in big trouble ;)
Great video! I would LOVE to see something on mobile modifications! My dream has always been to build a great-looking mobile Dreamcast with plugins to allow for a second controller and output to a TV (basically, it can connect to TV and you can play with friends). I saw a few Dreamcast builds that had beautiful screens, wonderful looking ergonomics to the progenitor controllers and even usable VMU insert. That was years ago, but it showed it could be done. What I have NEVER seen done was the external plugin ability for a TV connection. You pull this off, count on my monthly subscription for life. The Dreamcast community is still very much alive (and heartbroken when the Dreamcast 2 was vaguely announced). Stay amazing!
Beautiful solder work. I see you've found the proper combo of solder and flux.
If Sega would release this in 2023 I would instantly buy it. 😍 Love this console and big thanks to the developers of this.
Cara, seu conteúdo é de altíssima qualidade, interessante e feito com classe e com um profissionalismo invejável! Parabéns! Saudações do Brasil!
"The power and reset buttons sometimes get stuck and take some jiggling to get unstuck."
Just like the original models 1 and 2! Awesome and super authentic re-creation!
Amazing job! Congrats!
Awesome tutorial! If only Sega had released this instead of the separate 32X & focused on this only (due to backward compatibility being readily available on it) instead of dividing their forces between it & the Saturn, they could've thrived a few more years & maybe would've been in a much better position with 3rd party developers going into the Dreamcast. I was jacked for the Neptune & when it didn't come to be, I focused on the SNES & eventually the N64 until I got the Dreamcast in late 2000. I was hoping Sega would do a Neptune Mini to make up for not releasing it then & have 20-25 Genesis games, 10-15 32X games & a handful of Sega CD games built in, with the ability to add more ROMs to it thru download. Would be cool & I'll bet hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of people would be willing to shell out plenty of $ for it
Someone told him to go nepping and he did
One thing to consider: Before assembly of the unit, apply the water slide decals first (making sure there are no bubbles), then go over the entire thing with 2-part clear gloss automotive urethane to blend the water slides into the finish, making them appear to have been silkscreened. After fully curing, go over it once more with a light, even coat of matte clearcoat. It will look even more like factory, and will be very well protected to boot.
Of course, Ideally, it would be even better to have the logos painted during the mfg process :) Still an AWESOME build and product, and I would have absolutely loved to have one of these back in the day paired up with model 2 sega CD I had. Hell, I'd still love to have one. Now someone just needs to do the same for the Pluto!
Well done, I love the attention to detail. This thing looks a monster 🎉
Ngl, seeing Tito sitting in a different spot from where he usually records caught me off guard 😂 Great video as always!
Nice video, why was the original bottom shielding left out? Also are there many games released for the 32x that makes it worthwhile for this mod?
THAT LOOKS SO GOOD! Makes me want to go thrifting for sega classic consoles
now waiting for some madman to come with a neptune + sega cd mod
Hey Tito. One thing I am curious about is the AV cable used for this build: is this a genesis 1 or genesis 2 cable that should be connected afterwards? What about sound? Is it refined?
Man.... This channel. You do some awesome work sir. Kudos.
That is rad. Never heard about this console before. Production quality on your videos is spot on as always and you keep introducing me to these crazy mods that make me want to attempt to emulate. Good stuff mate.
Great Video! did you get a chance to try it out with real Model 2 SCD hardware? would the MegaSD have the same hardware conflict?
This is cool! I bet it would look even better with actual nice paint job! That thing is screaming for some 2k satin clear at the very least.
When you wire the rgb wires to the 3BP, it shows you removed R48 (as it says to do in zaxour's guide) but when you wire sync, it is back in place. 11:38 So do you need R48 in this use case?
That's really cool! I wonder how well that thing will handle heat build up.
Where did you grab the waterslide decals? I'd love to grab one of the Sega logo for my Dreamcast's replacement shell but haven't been able to find anything like that.
Excellent build!! Really tempting to make one myself. Ha, the Neptune is basically a Sega Supergrafx
I have heard about the Sega Neptune when I first heard about it in the late 2000s early 2010s upon looking at cancelled video game consoles back in the day. And now seeing you make one, incredible, never thought we would see one nearly 28/30 years later after it's cancellation and such.
Great video as always. About the SEGA CD "error", maybe is possible to "fix it" using a power switch on the CD port (would increase the cable length, but is doable)
estos videos me generan tanta paz aunque se que en algunas ocacions puede ser frustrante hacer retro moding y lo digo por experiencia propia gracias por darme inspiracion a segir con esto :]
There is 1 working actual prototype of neptune out there, no one knows where it is though. No ones seen it, so its hard to say what happened to it. It was confirmed that they had gotten the prototype working, but by then the saturn was ready for mass production, finding the original neptune would be a huge gaming find.
Amazing Mod!!...and you improved it compared to those I had already seen: so much cleaner and with triple bypass, 90° cartridge slot, plus new ribbon cables.
And it’s so well filmed: a perfect tutorial!
I think I'll do it.
Could you provide the links to buy the 90° cartridge slot and the ribbon cable?
Thank you so much
Awesome video.
Building a SEGA Neptune is kind of like a long lost holy grail of consoles.
The World never got to see the finalised console in action, but thanks to the stellar modding community this is now a reality.
Good stuff.
Cheers.
I am in the process of doing this. Just to be clear Sega CD games from MegaSD cartridge wont work with this? Does the original sega CD attachment still work?
dude, falling sleep listening to your voice is so relaxing. I'm literally using your videos for it. It's like drugs for me, my mind starts to get numb and every word you say has a different meaning in the scenario my head creates all around. It all started on the couch watching TV, and now I'm taking you to bed with me every night. Love ya
Great video. Been looking into the longhorn mod for years. This looks amazing.
One question though, where are the decals from?
I am BLOWN AWAY!!!!!! It is GORGEOUS!!!! And WELL WORTH the $320 price tag for the shell alone!!!! (okay, it's REALLY EXPENSIVE just for a plastic shell, but that is THE BEST 3D Print quality I have EVER seen!!!! So paying that price is a matter of passion and dedication to the project) It looks EXACTLY how I have always imagined it to be.
The soldiering work is a bit advanced, but not as hard as some of the projects you've shown here before.....
- EXCELLENT JOB TITO, DVIZIX, and EVERYONE ELSE responsible for making the WORK OF ART POSSIBLE!!!! Thank you Tito for sharing the build too!! YOU ROCK!!!!
This is a badass project got to love the modding community there doing some very awesome things surpassing my expectations of what's possible awesome video macho 👍
Really amazing that the Neptune was brought to life, and executed by you flawlessly as usual. What I would love to see is the MD cartridge slot on the back of the saturn given some functionality, even if it's just an emulator that dumps the cartridge it'd be really neat!
This is crazy cool! I had seen these floating around on Twitter but seeing it in video is a whole other thing.
So I'm curious, when you built the shell was it based on the one official prototype that exists? or are there differences?
20:46 Because "Triad Power Supply" is incredibly vague and unhelpful: A 9V / 1.3A power brick, center positive. Don't go below this amperage, but any amperage higher is safe.
Sega's default brick is 10V at 0.85A (8.5W), and while the voltages aren't exact, you need those additional 3.5W to keep the 32X happy. You'll need to adapt the 5.5mm/1.2mm barrel plug to a EIAJ-03 4.75mm/1.7mm barrel plug used on the Model 2.
And be careful not to mix it up with the Sega CD power supply, as it has a negative center polarity and will make either part very unhappy.
You have the best intro of any gaming channel I've seen.
I actually have a model 2 genesis motherboard bare. How can I tell if it's the shorter one? I don't have a case or rf shielding to go by. Thanks!
Cool, always thinking of doing some rebuilding for my old sega gamegear.
Nice. I made one after I made my Jaguar PlayOne console just over 10 years ago as part of my What if series. Did not post that video live yet, but will be fun when I do. :-)
Where can I buy the full console? Also, didn't the Neptune had a black Model 2 SEGA Saturn controller when it was shown in the 1995 announcement?
Now make the fictional Neptune console from Hyperdimension Neptunia!!!! With four working disc drives.
Are the water slide decals available anywhere? The only option i found is custom ordering them or using a Ghost white toner...
Nice tutorial Tito! I will build my Neptune too! Did you test Mega Sd? There is the same 32x conflict problem?
I have been terrified to try this for years. Great job!!
That is very cool. The 32X has a special place with me as a gamer. I got one back in 1995 and thought I had something great. I played MK2, NBA Jam, Knuckles Chaotix and Virtua Fighter to death lol. I’d love to have this in my collection. Great job.
Spetacular! Loved it!
Is sega CD works with this build?
Is it compatible with the Mega CD and Master System Converter?
How hot does it get? the 32x and the genesis both had multiple processors i could see heat being an issue during extended play
Gorgeous! So glad you used Doom Resurrection. Where did the repro with 32x cartridge shell come from? Nice touch! I was going to make a joke about not using the original inferior doom on that beautiful Neptune :) Great work/showcase and hats off to the creator/contributors.