I bought this for my electro-acoustic bass ukulele. Unfortunately it is not compatible with an instrument with a pre-amp... I am so disappointed! I spent a lot of money and now I am left with nothing. At the shop where I bought the set, they could exchange it for the WL20 L, but that didn't work either. Now I will have to drag my 3 meter long heavy wire. I couldn't find any support on the Boss website and it took the guys at the shop to find out this is not compatible with an instrument with a pre-amp. Please Boss, warn buyers about this!
I have been researching guitar wireless units in the up-to- US $350 range for a while, and have decided to go for the Boss WL-20. I did not want to go for the Relay because it is too bulky for me. I had originally thought that I would go with the U2 Xvive, but by almost all accounts, there are horrendous problems with those cutting out, being susceptible to interference, and so on, when in 'real world' use. Interesting how they are both 2.4GHz, and yet Boss seems to have made a unit which works well. One criticism I have read is that the jack itself is not quite long enough to depress the little steel 'button' when plugged into some guitars. If you look in the photos (or this video), you will see this button just above the shaft of the jack (this 'button' comes out of the hilt of the plug). People have solved this problem by sliding a washer over the shaft of the jack plug, so that the washer abuts the button, and pushes it in fully when the jack is pushed into a guitar jack socket.
I have no doubt this will be a market leading project as when Boss does it, they do it so damn well (pedal board friendly receiver...brilliant!) But my issue with all these wireless units coming out is the bulky transmitter. I still prefer something attached to my strap at the back with a lead to the guitar where its out of sight and and not impacting on the aesthetic of the guitar or getting in the way if the jack input is on the front of the guitar. They look terrible on a 335 :( Come on Matt, have a word with the designers and make this another option then you will have all bases covered.
Paul Hart add to those relevant issues add in the complications of similar wireless devices operating on the same or nearby frequencies. Too many wireless devices in a given space requires an AES engineer to de emphasize the crosstalk by cabling at the end of the gig. I'd love to try it that said, Boss makes some great products
Couldn't you get a really short lead into the guitar with a female plug on the end and plug the transmitter into that? You could double-sides tape it to the guitar somewhere less obtrusive then.
I came here searching for the reason the jacks are TRS. I guess that's the "charge two units with one wire" feature that uses that ring. I was hoping at first it supported stereo guitar outputs (Parker Fly, Rick-o-sound) but no.
less than 3years, and it holds a charge for 20mins if lucky. Can't find anywhere in the UK that sell battery to fit. In the BIN it goes. back to AKG that use AAA battery.
This looks great - If I was to rig an extension onto it so I could attach the transmitter to my strap and then have a right-angled, lower profile jack plugging into the guitar, would this work? Wondering why the transmitter is TRS - charging? I worry about damaging the transmitter having it sticking out too far from a Tele or LP....
How would these wireless boxes compare to gold soldered patch cables from brands like Mogami? I am concerned that these wireless units may provide too much tone suck for recording purposes.
I currently have the WL50 model, Basically pleased with it - HOWEVER.. one point i do need to make, is if you change guitars during your set, yr sound will cut out if you dont allow enough time for it to connect/find signal to the next guitar. If anyone has found the answer to this.. please let me know as its a pain right now!
So, instead of simply providing an ON/OFF switch for the "cable emulation" they make you buy another unit for your acoustics and portable keys??? Or you have to buy the 50 model???
I use guitars and basses with passive and active pickups; the WL-20 should have an active/passive switch instead of two different models. While I'm at it, how about a smaller GK pickup too? c'mon Boss.
Whether the transmitter can be charged when it is plugged into the receiver, but the receiver is not connected to the mains? For example, while I play a concert, the receiver is charging, then I played back put my boss in my bag and he charges the transmitter for the next concert. Sorry for my terrible english.
@@anttt___ I never did get an answer. What I did was purchase a generic version of the 5Ghz WG5 units that Carvin came out with (half the price of what Carvin was asking), and they have worked fine with both passive and active pickups.
Where does the end of your whammy bar sit in relation to the transmitter if you are using guitar with strat style and position input plug. I notice he hasn't got his bar connected in this demo?
No, you will need to purchase the WL-20L. The great part of the model with the L suffix is it works with both passive and active pickups. Boss claims that this version DOES NOT allow for the subtle roll off tone that a cable provides. Don’t ask me, I can’t hear any difference. This awesome accessory works flawlessly with both my Jim Root Signature Telecasters, the Squire with passive humbuckers and the Fender with active EMGs. This will change your life.
Why are the plugs/connectors stereo/TRS? Do I need to use a stereo/TRS adapter or an extender if I was to need one? I want to place the WL20 on my pedal board because of it's a small footprint, but I don't want it hanging off my volume pedal, so I want to safely place it somewhere else on my pedal board and run an extender cable to my volume pedal. Will the adapter and extender cable need to be stereo/TRS?
so when i dock the two and charge then, only the transmitter is blinking green' so does this mean thatbonly the reciever is fully charged or both? or is the reciever supposed to blink green too? i see there is two light indicators on that one but my tranmitter light is blinking green and the receiver is like a yellowish greenish color.
You can not buy the Boss WL-xx stuff (in Germany). Does Boss have technical problems? I was waiting half a year, reserved it, next delivery date on thomann.de is Feb 2019...Now I ordered the Line6 Relay G10.
Can you turn the cable simulation off on the WL-20? Or is it on with no way to disable it? Just curious as I have multiple guitars, and I don't want to have to buy the L model just to use with my active pup guitars.
Thanks for making this. Am I right in guessing my Journey Instruments OF660's under-saddle passive transducer pickup system would work best with the WL-20, (or have I misunderstood the differences between the WL-20 & the WL20L)?
i think it is possible having the micro USB port in it. I charge my Xvive wireless with a powerbank in my pocket while playing when I played with it for too long.
Does the WL-50 work with Active pickups? I have two guitars with active (one Seymour Duncan heavy metal live wire and EMG both 18volt). I've tried other brands that were supposed to work however they worked fine with my two guitars with passive pickups, but neither active worked with them? I would really like the WL-50 on my set up ,but only if it works with all my guitars. Looks like a great system.
Anyone used the WL20L with passive pickups? Most of my guitars have passive pickups bit one has active, should I go for the WL20L for that reason or would the WL20 be just as good on the active pickups? How much would I notice it?
I don't know exactly what a passive and active pickup are, but I know that my Bass Ukelele with built-in pre-amp (with batteries) is not compatible with the WL 20 or with the WL20L. We tried both and it doesn't work.
Boss WL-50 Guitar Wireless System. Why didn't You think of How the receiver would (Wouldn't) Fit in a BCB-60/BCB30 Pedal Case? So weird. The patch cable ports are NOT in the right places.
I wondering for same thing. But i think it will not work as great as guitar cable itself. Because you know; fuzzes likes "see guitar first" and obviously this units have buffers in it.
MicroUSB is kind of a crappy connector. Should've done USB type-C. Type-C only costs a few cents more per connector for manufacturers, but will last MUCH longer, also it's a double sided connector, meaning there's no wrong way to plug it in.
So this post was in june 2018. Do these devices ship to Holland on a rowing boat from China? Or are there other serious problems with the availability?
Wireless is detrimental to all aspects of human and animal life. Stay cabled, whether in making music or using your computer, telephone, and other appliances. Do your research and due-diligence on the much-hyped so-called "internet of things."
- Did you reach the guitar signal of this guy? + Yes sir! - So, what we got? + Sir, our high valuable target is playing vintage stratocaster with some awesome tube amp. - OK. Now sound him like out of tune and send the SWAT teams while he tunes his guitar
Embrio well said and you expertly detected my sarcasm! I agree with the professor too. I'm sure all of the signals bouncing around are already problematic. The IoT thing needs to go away to some degree, the "smarter" our gadgets become the dumber the population gets. I don't see any need for a refrigerator having internet access any more than my wife sees my need for more equipment.
I'm completely agree on that too. Especially 2.4GHZ frequency band is became a garbage frequency band because of all this wireless IoT, routers etc. things. It should be a problem in "high density wireless areas". But of course it's not very big problem to deal with. It's very handy dandy tool for live-gig players. The only thing i do not know about this; fuzz pedals. Most of fuzz pedals are "wants to see guitar directly" and doesn't like buffers front of it. and probably this wireless unit has a buffer in it. So i'm not sure if it's works well with "fuzz pedal first" scenario or not.. I would appreciate it if someone could explain to me :)
Thanks for including information about active Pickups and preamps.
I'll get this next! I was waiting for something like this for so long!
So, first impressions? Do you like it?
Well this is going straight to my board. I've been really hesitant to go wireless for so long and man has boss nailed it
Received the WL-50 yesterday and works as advertised. It provides clear signal and no cable.
I bought this for my electro-acoustic bass ukulele. Unfortunately it is not compatible with an instrument with a pre-amp... I am so disappointed! I spent a lot of money and now I am left with nothing. At the shop where I bought the set, they could exchange it for the WL20 L, but that didn't work either. Now I will have to drag my 3 meter long heavy wire. I couldn't find any support on the Boss website and it took the guys at the shop to find out this is not compatible with an instrument with a pre-amp. Please Boss, warn buyers about this!
I have been researching guitar wireless units in the up-to- US $350 range for a while, and have decided to go for the Boss WL-20.
I did not want to go for the Relay because it is too bulky for me.
I had originally thought that I would go with the U2 Xvive, but by almost all accounts, there are horrendous problems with those cutting out, being susceptible to interference, and so on, when in 'real world' use. Interesting how they are both 2.4GHz, and yet Boss seems to have made a unit which works well. One criticism I have read is that the jack itself is not quite long enough to depress the little steel 'button' when plugged into some guitars.
If you look in the photos (or this video), you will see this button just above the shaft of the jack (this 'button' comes out of the hilt of the plug). People have solved this problem by sliding a washer over the shaft of the jack plug, so that the washer abuts the button, and pushes it in fully when the jack is pushed into a guitar jack socket.
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I have no doubt this will be a market leading project as when Boss does it, they do it so damn well (pedal board friendly receiver...brilliant!) But my issue with all these wireless units coming out is the bulky transmitter. I still prefer something attached to my strap at the back with a lead to the guitar where its out of sight and and not impacting on the aesthetic of the guitar or getting in the way if the jack input is on the front of the guitar. They look terrible on a 335 :( Come on Matt, have a word with the designers and make this another option then you will have all bases covered.
Paul Hart add to those relevant issues add in the complications of similar wireless devices operating on the same or nearby frequencies. Too many wireless devices in a given space requires an AES engineer to de emphasize the crosstalk by cabling at the end of the gig. I'd love to try it that said, Boss makes some great products
Couldn't you get a really short lead into the guitar with a female plug on the end and plug the transmitter into that? You could double-sides tape it to the guitar somewhere less obtrusive then.
Greg Rickard this is what I'm thinking as well. I'd rather have the little transmitter in my back pocket or something than sticking out of my guitar.
tylerangle1990 Yeah to me it looks like its asking to be snapped.
I agree. That’s why I’m leaning more toward the shure wireless because it also doubles as a tuner to put on your pedalboard which is nice.
I came here searching for the reason the jacks are TRS. I guess that's the "charge two units with one wire" feature that uses that ring.
I was hoping at first it supported stereo guitar outputs (Parker Fly, Rick-o-sound) but no.
nice demo
thanks
Please make a Boss GT-1000 with a built in WL. I've been asking for a wireless multi effect unit for ages.
less than 3years, and it holds a charge for 20mins if lucky. Can't find anywhere in the UK that sell battery to fit. In the BIN it goes.
back to AKG that use AAA battery.
This looks great - If I was to rig an extension onto it so I could attach the transmitter to my strap and then have a right-angled, lower profile jack plugging into the guitar, would this work? Wondering why the transmitter is TRS - charging? I worry about damaging the transmitter having it sticking out too far from a Tele or LP....
Just a male to female 1/4" extension would work.
How would these wireless boxes compare to gold soldered patch cables from brands like Mogami? I am concerned that these wireless units may provide too much tone suck for recording purposes.
I currently have the WL50 model, Basically pleased with it - HOWEVER.. one point i do need to make, is if you change guitars during your set, yr sound will cut out if you dont allow enough time for it to connect/find signal to the next guitar. If anyone has found the answer to this.. please let me know as its a pain right now!
So what do I need if I want wireless from guitar to board to amp?
you'll need two sets obviously. one set guitar to pedalboard, another set pedalboard to amp. but it doubles the latency I'm guessing.
So, instead of simply providing an ON/OFF switch for the "cable emulation" they make you buy another unit for your acoustics and portable keys??? Or you have to buy the 50 model???
am lovin it!
No mention of range?
Austin Lindsay 15 metres (50 feet).
Check the website for full details. 50ft for WL-20 and 65ft for WL-50
60 feet
I use guitars and basses with passive and active pickups; the WL-20 should have an active/passive switch instead of two different models.
While I'm at it, how about a smaller GK pickup too?
c'mon Boss.
Will this work on a the recessed plug of a telecaster? I have something similar by another brand and it won't fully go in a telecaster plug.
So being a user of both active and passive basses, I have to buy 2 systems?!
can a person leave the usb cable plugged into unit always?
Whether the transmitter can be charged when it is plugged into the receiver, but the receiver is not connected to the mains? For example, while I play a concert, the receiver is charging, then I played back put my boss in my bag and he charges the transmitter for the next concert. Sorry for my terrible english.
Great!
I dare you to do 4CM with this.
That is just silly, even if fonly or economic reasons.
It is compatible for the bass ...
I use two guitars, one with a passive K&K Pure Western Mini and one with an active Baggs Anthem pickup. Would I really have to get one of each type?
hey did you ever get an answer to this? or try it yourself? im in the same position...
@@anttt___ I never did get an answer. What I did was purchase a generic version of the 5Ghz WG5 units that Carvin came out with (half the price of what Carvin was asking), and they have worked fine with both passive and active pickups.
And if you use two boss transmitter the cut out on stage
can I use any of these to go from the end of my pedalboard wirelessly to the amp?
I contacted Boss Techs. and found out (you can use the WL20 in the front of your pedalboard cord out to the amp and the transmitter in the the guitar
Can you get a WL50 base with a 20L transmitter ?
Could I did this?
Guitar -> wl20 -> wl20 receiver -> footswich -> TRS cable -> katana 50 amp?
so, wl-20l is the one for bass guitar /amp?
What ability do i need to be such a wireless audio system engineer in company like BOSS?
Can I use two couples of those for input and output of my pedal board? Like guitar > pedal board > Amp.
Yup! You can pair several together for wireless guitar to pedal board and boards to amp if you want.
Surely you don't have to pair it every time you use it?
Where does the end of your whammy bar sit in relation to the transmitter if you are using guitar with strat style and position input plug. I notice he hasn't got his bar connected in this demo?
ネットのクチコミでストラト以外の
ギターに使ったら動かなかったと
聞いて買おうと思ってたんですけど…。
テレキャスターシンラインとかやと動かないんですかね…
Most or all guitars have a TS socket....these have a TRS?? Why?
I bought a WL-50. Can I buy another WL-20, and do ampwl20pedalboardwl50guitar? I assume the latency will double (to around 5ms)
will the WL-20 work with active pickups ??
No, you will need to purchase the WL-20L. The great part of the model with the L suffix is it works with both passive and active pickups. Boss claims that this version DOES NOT allow for the subtle roll off tone that a cable provides. Don’t ask me, I can’t hear any difference. This awesome accessory works flawlessly with both my Jim Root Signature Telecasters, the Squire with passive humbuckers and the Fender with active EMGs. This will change your life.
Why are the plugs/connectors stereo/TRS? Do I need to use a stereo/TRS adapter or an extender if I was to need one? I want to place the WL20 on my pedal board because of it's a small footprint, but I don't want it hanging off my volume pedal, so I want to safely place it somewhere else on my pedal board and run an extender cable to my volume pedal. Will the adapter and extender cable need to be stereo/TRS?
Can I use the Boss WL20L on a Fender Strat guitar with passive pickups?
So if I have active pick ups in one guitar and passive in the other guitars Do I have to buy the WL20 and the WL20L?
Say my battery does not charge after 4 years of continuous use do I get a battery replacement
? Does it rquire line of sight or is it just good to have it?
Is it stereo?
so when i dock the two and charge then, only the transmitter is blinking green' so does this mean thatbonly the reciever is fully charged or both? or is the reciever supposed to blink green too? i see there is two light indicators on that one but my tranmitter light is blinking green and the receiver is like a yellowish greenish color.
can I plug the WL-20L into my pedal board ??
You can not buy the Boss WL-xx stuff (in Germany). Does Boss have technical problems? I was waiting half a year, reserved it, next delivery date on thomann.de is Feb 2019...Now I ordered the Line6 Relay G10.
How much distance for WL50 ?
Can you turn the cable simulation off on the WL-20? Or is it on with no way to disable it? Just curious as I have multiple guitars, and I don't want to have to buy the L model just to use with my active pup guitars.
Thanks for making this. Am I right in guessing my Journey Instruments OF660's under-saddle passive transducer pickup system would work best with the WL-20, (or have I misunderstood the differences between the WL-20 & the WL20L)?
If it's a passive pickup then WL-20 will be better.
@@Knightsiewhat if its a passive pickup with active preamp?
can it be used while charging?
Juan Miguel Tee fantastic question that's always ignored with rechargable devices!
i think it is possible having the micro USB port in it. I charge my Xvive wireless with a powerbank in my pocket while playing when I played with it for too long.
Can i use boss wl-20L for passive pickups?
Danya Revutskii I asked this question about my bass a few days ago. They said yes it would work.
would the WL-20L be best for key bass??
Does the WL-50 work with any daisy chain and power adapter?
It's allow to use on stage WL20 and WL20L in the same time?
How is it for live recording ?
Does the WL-50 work with Active pickups? I have two guitars with active (one Seymour Duncan heavy metal live wire and EMG both 18volt). I've tried other brands that were supposed to work however they worked fine with my two guitars with passive pickups, but neither active worked with them?
I would really like the WL-50 on my set up ,but only if it works with all my guitars.
Looks like a great system.
What happened?
@donaldswan1587 what happened with....? Sorry if I'm missing something lol
When are these released
They already are: www.sweetwater.com/store/search.php?s=boss+wl
What model do I need to connect to my Line6 HD 500x?
Why should there always be music in the background? For people who are not so good in the English language it is already difficult without the music.
Can I go from guitar to pedalboard wireless, than a standard cable from the pedalboard to amp? Just using the wl-20 and not the wl-50?
Yes
Anyone used the WL20L with passive pickups? Most of my guitars have passive pickups bit one has active, should I go for the WL20L for that reason or would the WL20 be just as good on the active pickups? How much would I notice it?
I don't know exactly what a passive and active pickup are, but I know that my Bass Ukelele with built-in pre-amp (with batteries) is not compatible with the WL 20 or with the WL20L. We tried both and it doesn't work.
Boss WL-50 Guitar Wireless System. Why didn't You think of How the receiver would (Wouldn't) Fit in a BCB-60/BCB30 Pedal Case? So weird. The patch cable ports are NOT in the right places.
Hi, i have an ibanez Az Series, the Boss WL20 wont fit in the guitar jack. How do i solve this problem?
I'd buy a small cable of the length used to connect stomp boxes together. Job done
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what if my spector bass has passive aguilar pickups with active preamp? wL20? or wL20L?
Ive been trying to find the same answer. Yet to find anyone who knows for certain
Will this work if im using my strat with a germanium fuzzface?
I wondering for same thing. But i think it will not work as great as guitar cable itself. Because you know; fuzzes likes "see guitar first" and obviously this units have buffers in it.
Seriously? No tone lag or loss?
Couldn't hear him over the guitar playing
Which model would I use with my acoustic which has a K&K Pure passive under the saddle pickup?
I'd use the WL-20L :)
Although if it's a passive pickup you could use the standard WL-20. The WL-20L gives you a brighter tone overall.
Thanks Matt, much appreciated. Are they available now? and what's the price?
They are going live on dealer websites as we speak. Should be available August. 179 and 199 Euro as of today
Thanks for your help
MicroUSB is kind of a crappy connector. Should've done USB type-C. Type-C only costs a few cents more per connector for manufacturers, but will last MUCH longer, also it's a double sided connector, meaning there's no wrong way to plug it in.
So this post was in june 2018. Do these devices ship to Holland on a rowing boat from China? Or are there other serious problems with the availability?
Can you use this to turn a looper pedal on and off? I'd Like to activate my looper directly from a guitar.
The only issue for me is, when stick it in my guitar it just looks like a sore thumb it's like me guitar has an extra leg
Shut up and take my money!!!
Nobody uses micro usb anymore lol
Today I had a ruined gig with BOSS WL-50. It used to work and is a device with little use.
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Alguém aqui no Brasil já ultiliza
Except....you have a brick sticking out risking it being smashed in any number of ways. So dumb.
In this instance the playing in the background is very distracting & totally unnecessary.
Bad design on boss wireless at least on wl 20 ....
Wireless is detrimental to all aspects of human and animal life. Stay cabled, whether in making music or using your computer, telephone, and other appliances. Do your research and due-diligence on the much-hyped so-called "internet of things."
Professor Hamamoto I keep hoping someone will hack my equipment and I will wind up with some fantastic tone lol
Triggered
- Did you reach the guitar signal of this guy?
+ Yes sir!
- So, what we got?
+ Sir, our high valuable target is playing vintage stratocaster with some awesome tube amp.
- OK. Now sound him like out of tune and send the SWAT teams while he tunes his guitar
Embrio well said and you expertly detected my sarcasm! I agree with the professor too. I'm sure all of the signals bouncing around are already problematic. The IoT thing needs to go away to some degree, the "smarter" our gadgets become the dumber the population gets. I don't see any need for a refrigerator having internet access any more than my wife sees my need for more equipment.
I'm completely agree on that too. Especially 2.4GHZ frequency band is became a garbage frequency band because of all this wireless IoT, routers etc. things. It should be a problem in "high density wireless areas".
But of course it's not very big problem to deal with. It's very handy dandy tool for live-gig players. The only thing i do not know about this; fuzz pedals. Most of fuzz pedals are "wants to see guitar directly" and doesn't like buffers front of it. and probably this wireless unit has a buffer in it. So i'm not sure if it's works well with "fuzz pedal first" scenario or not.. I would appreciate it if someone could explain to me :)
Why can I not just use a WL-20 from my guitar to the First Pedal in my Signal Chain ?
Why would I need a WL-50 instead of a WL-20 ?
Phil Wilson at 1:05 he says it can go into an amp, pedal or interface.
OK !
I must have missed that.
I will watch it again !
Thanks, Mark !
If that works, then why do they offer a WL-50? I don't understand, it seems like a redundant product.