I have a TTRS and it’s a blast to drive. I also have a first gen R8 and a 2021 Supra. The TT is the most capable car I own. I live in Pennsylvania and we get snow pretty bad. The Supra is terrible but the TT with winter tires is a champ. I have an unitronic stage 2 ECU/TCU on the TT and it’s a MONSTER. Understeer is sooo underrated. To the people who say they’d chose the RS3 over the TTRS, it only means you want a sedan and not a sports car.
One word: Aesthetic design. Okay 2 words. My TTS turns more heads than Scarlett Johansson. BMW has sadly lost its way in design. But the TT is future proof - inside and out. Every time I park it I have to stop and look back.
Aw mate ive recently been lucky enough to buy the mk3 audi tts, I can honestly say its like driving a lottery car gives you such a good feeling. I can only dream of the TTRS.....Jeremy Clarkson described the TTRS as a happy hippopotamus 😄😄😄
Nothing wrong with the sloppy DSG box, it’s all down to your mapped bmw boxes and superior shifting your used to 😛. Always like the TTRS, wouldn’t have one tho, especially at £60k. Think it’s more the image I couldn’t live with. Sounds immense, great engine and superior interior!! If it had to be an Audi, I’d go RS3, otherwise it’d be an M2 comp that trumps it for me. Great vid 👍🏻
😆 Who said my ZF8 is mapped? 😝 I’d have an RS3 if it was available in 2 door tbh, not sure why they’ll do it..M2 Comp is probably a better comparison for it deffo, wet weather you’ll not see which way the Audi went but it the dry, I’m keen to see how well the Audi turns in when say pushed on track…
@@TimWilliamsHD I just sold my comp for the TTRS I would say in every scenario below 70 the TTRS would leave the comp standing on public roads however I do feel the comp was faster on straights above 65ish kick down wise
The DQ-500 isn’t the greatest DSG when downshifting, all of them I’ve owned have had a slight hesitation when stock. The DQ-250 is quicker and will let you do flat throttle down shifts. In this day and age the majority of people who talk about Audi and massive understeer have likely never driven one in the last 5 years if at all. Even then If the fancy takes you fitting a stiffer rear ARB would help things further.
@@TimWilliamsHD for sure, I think it’s the thing people try to bash them about as it’s an easy argument. Still they are never going to compare to an M car in regards to handling. I’ve only recently came over to the BMW side, stock engine and exhaust on my OG M2 and I do miss that 5 cylinder sound.
@@TimWilliamsHD I came from an S3 to the M235i and whilst I know the TTRS gives you that 5 cylinder 2.5l engine, which sounds beautiful, I got bored very quickly. Like you say in the video, you can point and drive, whereas I feel like a much better driver since buying the M235i and it just feels like a machine that demands a lot of respect driving wise and once mastered it puts a smile on my face every time. Plus, can't beat the torque the straight 6 gives, 600Nm after a stage 1
Valid points, since jumping back into the 240i it has felt horrible compared to the TTRS in terms of chassis though…it’s weird, I’m not sure if the TTRS probably should only be compared to an m car and not an mlite? 🤷♂️
Great fun, best content again Tim. U.K. salutes you. Are times a bit hard as your jeans were torn!!! I have a spare new pair if you want em!? SuperBowl Sunday. Wish you did a mega video on it. Who’s your team? LA Ram’s or Cincinnati Bengals.
Only person I'd ever consider a ttrs is for that 5 cylinder,quattro and if I wanted big power that I could put down without any problems,but the 240i handles much better even without LSD.With lsd and stage 1/2 you've basically got a car that drives like a full blown m car,but is also faster.It's a f'in shame the mlites don't have the same individual configuration as the m cars,but even still not a lot beats the 240 at its price point
Dnt get me wrong ttrs is a great car, but after 6month of having it you will be bored with it and wnt a change. 60k for one hell no, jst cant be value for money with 140 or 240 and the fun you can have will always put a smile on your face. My gran could boot it in a ttrs cos it does it all for you no dramas, jst too boring for me 30L 6cylinder RWD b58 the fun and smile will always be there. Good vid bro👍
Chris Harris pushed it hard in a head to head against the 718 (S, I think) and M2C and, yes, it does understeer when pushed hard. It's damn quick, second fastest of the lot after the Porsche, but it is apparently a handful to keep it charging through because it fights you on the limit.
@@vomErsten I'm not surprised at all, because even the guys from Throttle House reviews said it understeered even when being pushed on the road never mind on a track! There's reviews everywhere about how they've always had understeer since they have been out!
@@germanengineering204 To be fair, though, you have to be driving at 9/10 to feel it and, even then, you can tune it out with some suspension and tire upgrades. It's not a design flaw, it's an intentional behavior put in place by Audi because it makes your average driver feel safe. That said, it will never be a fun-handling car; it's all about technical performance and efficiency. It will go fast around a track, but with zero flare.
Eeeeeh, this is a strained comparison. The TTRS costs $75,000 to $80,000 new and even the M2C only topped out around $65,000. The new M240i almost matches both in a straight line and definitely has better handling characteristics than the front-biased TTRS. Maxed out it's still under $60,000; absolute bargain among the three. P.S. Use TTRSes in the US cost as much as or more than new right now.
@@TimWilliamsHD Yeah. Audi is killing off the model due to slow sales, but the reason they've been struggling to break low triple digit sales in one of their key markets is that they priced it too close to both a 718 GTS and an RS5 and way too high to compete with the dynamically superior BMW options. I would love to have one, but not at almost $80k with all the options that make it worth having.
@@TimWilliamsHD New 240i, fully optioned = £52,000. New TTRS, spec'ed to match the 240i = £65,000. A closer comparison would be the TTS, similar spec. to the 240i = £55,000.
I have a TTRS and it’s a blast to drive. I also have a first gen R8 and a 2021 Supra. The TT is the most capable car I own. I live in Pennsylvania and we get snow pretty bad. The Supra is terrible but the TT with winter tires is a champ. I have an unitronic stage 2 ECU/TCU on the TT and it’s a MONSTER. Understeer is sooo underrated. To the people who say they’d chose the RS3 over the TTRS, it only means you want a sedan and not a sports car.
Rs3 hatchback I’d have on the TTRS for practicality id say but for looks…I think
TTRS for the win!
One word: Aesthetic design. Okay 2 words. My TTS turns more heads than Scarlett Johansson. BMW has sadly lost its way in design. But the TT is future proof - inside and out. Every time I park it I have to stop and look back.
Looks wise can’t be beaten!
Aw mate ive recently been lucky enough to buy the mk3 audi tts, I can honestly say its like driving a lottery car gives you such a good feeling. I can only dream of the TTRS.....Jeremy Clarkson described the TTRS as a happy hippopotamus 😄😄😄
😆 I called it the howling hoover 😂
Nothing wrong with the sloppy DSG box, it’s all down to your mapped bmw boxes and superior shifting your used to 😛. Always like the TTRS, wouldn’t have one tho, especially at £60k. Think it’s more the image I couldn’t live with. Sounds immense, great engine and superior interior!! If it had to be an Audi, I’d go RS3, otherwise it’d be an M2 comp that trumps it for me. Great vid 👍🏻
😆 Who said my ZF8 is mapped? 😝 I’d have an RS3 if it was available in 2 door tbh, not sure why they’ll do it..M2 Comp is probably a better comparison for it deffo, wet weather you’ll not see which way the Audi went but it the dry, I’m keen to see how well the Audi turns in when say pushed on track…
@@TimWilliamsHD I just sold my comp for the TTRS I would say in every scenario below 70 the TTRS would leave the comp standing on public roads however I do feel the comp was faster on straights above 65ish kick down wise
@@sonneyanthony6926 what’s more fun to drive ?
The DQ-500 isn’t the greatest DSG when downshifting, all of them I’ve owned have had a slight hesitation when stock. The DQ-250 is quicker and will let you do flat throttle down shifts. In this day and age the majority of people who talk about Audi and massive understeer have likely never driven one in the last 5 years if at all. Even then If the fancy takes you fitting a stiffer rear ARB would help things further.
100% mate, the stigma attached definitely doesn’t apply imo..especially on S and RS Range ✅
@@TimWilliamsHD for sure, I think it’s the thing people try to bash them about as it’s an easy argument. Still they are never going to compare to an M car in regards to handling. I’ve only recently came over to the BMW side, stock engine and exhaust on my OG M2 and I do miss that 5 cylinder sound.
Nice video Tim 👍
Thanks guys!
Bro got a bit flustered when he was feeling the Alcantara on the knob 😂😂😂
I’ve got a 140i but the use ability and capability is insane on these👀
Yeh mate all year round, grip and go!! 🤤
i'd rather the M240i for sure
Fair enough, have you driven the TTRS? What’s your reasons?
@@TimWilliamsHD get more for your money with the m240i
@@TimWilliamsHD I came from an S3 to the M235i and whilst I know the TTRS gives you that 5 cylinder 2.5l engine, which sounds beautiful, I got bored very quickly. Like you say in the video, you can point and drive, whereas I feel like a much better driver since buying the M235i and it just feels like a machine that demands a lot of respect driving wise and once mastered it puts a smile on my face every time. Plus, can't beat the torque the straight 6 gives, 600Nm after a stage 1
Valid points, since jumping back into the 240i it has felt horrible compared to the TTRS in terms of chassis though…it’s weird, I’m not sure if the TTRS probably should only be compared to an m car and not an mlite? 🤷♂️
@@TimWilliamsHD try jumping in a TTS and see how that feels? Maybe that’s more comparable?
Not much touches the TTRS on road honestly
100% can see why 😆
Always appreciate a 5 pot 🔥🚀
Have to! The first scary hatchback was the rs3 imo
Great vid man. Thought you was going to slow down for the tipped car and shout “you can’t park there mate!”
I know instead I just screamed out in laughter loooool
Great fun, best content again Tim. U.K. salutes you. Are times a bit hard as your jeans were torn!!! I have a spare new pair if you want em!? SuperBowl Sunday. Wish you did a mega video on it. Who’s your team? LA Ram’s or Cincinnati Bengals.
😂 jeans are stylish 😆
Great video buddy! But the 4wd is just a bit too safe for me. I love a bit of rear wheel drive squeaky squeaky bum bum time
Haha oh yes I know you do! I’ll be counting the time down till you need new discs again 😆
@@TimWilliamsHD loooooool
How you comparing this to an M Lite ? TTRS destroys any M3/4 of its generation (f80 series). And it does it in any weather
Nice vid, cheapest TTRS in here cost 95k euro and thats wrong as hell but keep up good work lad
95k?! That’s insane!! 💰
@@TimWilliamsHD welcome to Finland 😀 Gasoline cost 2e per Litre
Christ I thought uk was bad 😂
TTRS 100% better than an m240, but a very different price bracket. Stage 3 in these will bully anything on the road.
100% tbf I think it’s more of a direct competitor to the full fat m2
M240i is a better bang for your buck imo! Can't beat what your getting at the bimmer price it's a bargain!👍
We’ll see what the new m240i x drive can do 😏 stage 3 by Tom wrigley 700+ bhp will be insane my lad
Only person I'd ever consider a ttrs is for that 5 cylinder,quattro and if I wanted big power that I could put down without any problems,but the 240i handles much better even without LSD.With lsd and stage 1/2 you've basically got a car that drives like a full blown m car,but is also faster.It's a f'in shame the mlites don't have the same individual configuration as the m cars,but even still not a lot beats the 240 at its price point
Yes 5 pot sound is soooo unique! Real gooood!
Dnt get me wrong ttrs is a great car, but after 6month of having it you will be bored with it and wnt a change. 60k for one hell no, jst cant be value for money with 140 or 240 and the fun you can have will always put a smile on your face. My gran could boot it in a ttrs cos it does it all for you no dramas, jst too boring for me
30L 6cylinder RWD b58 the fun and smile will always be there. Good vid bro👍
Yes 60k is a lot but if my life was such that I could afford a 60k car, it would deffo be on the list next to a M2C and Porsche Cayman…
@@TimWilliamsHD if a had 60k a would go for a Nissan GTR, second hand of course lol.
First time I hear it doesn't understeer! I bet it would if it was getting pushed harder on a track day !
I think the camber and toe settings are adequate for the road, might need an adjustment before track I think!
Even the M2 understeers when being pushed on track…
Understeer on track is a bit of a mute point, how much of it’s life would be on track?
Chris Harris pushed it hard in a head to head against the 718 (S, I think) and M2C and, yes, it does understeer when pushed hard. It's damn quick, second fastest of the lot after the Porsche, but it is apparently a handful to keep it charging through because it fights you on the limit.
@@vomErsten I'm not surprised at all, because even the guys from Throttle House reviews said it understeered even when being pushed on the road never mind on a track! There's reviews everywhere about how they've always had understeer since they have been out!
@@germanengineering204 To be fair, though, you have to be driving at 9/10 to feel it and, even then, you can tune it out with some suspension and tire upgrades. It's not a design flaw, it's an intentional behavior put in place by Audi because it makes your average driver feel safe.
That said, it will never be a fun-handling car; it's all about technical performance and efficiency. It will go fast around a track, but with zero flare.
Buy both 🤣. 240 summer time tt winter. Easy man maths
If only wallet would allow 😂 it would be the dream!
Did you buy one, or had a test drive?
15-20k needed to make it an 8 second car
Haha what did I say? I’m sure I was meant to say 5-10k depending on deals 🤷♂️💰
@@TimWilliamsHD 8-10 k just on engine build alone mate
Eeeeeh, this is a strained comparison. The TTRS costs $75,000 to $80,000 new and even the M2C only topped out around $65,000. The new M240i almost matches both in a straight line and definitely has better handling characteristics than the front-biased TTRS. Maxed out it's still under $60,000; absolute bargain among the three.
P.S. Use TTRSes in the US cost as much as or more than new right now.
Jesus! That’s nuts money, ours are evenly priced in the UK
@@TimWilliamsHD Yeah. Audi is killing off the model due to slow sales, but the reason they've been struggling to break low triple digit sales in one of their key markets is that they priced it too close to both a 718 GTS and an RS5 and way too high to compete with the dynamically superior BMW options. I would love to have one, but not at almost $80k with all the options that make it worth having.
@@TimWilliamsHD New 240i, fully optioned = £52,000. New TTRS, spec'ed to match the 240i = £65,000. A closer comparison would be the TTS, similar spec. to the 240i = £55,000.
from 30...... to 40.. yeah right, more like 60 ;)
Easy now!! 😂
Not a go only for straight line. BMW better
Can't compare the two. Compare the 2023 m2 then you can see bmw beat the audi twice haha
That thing just looks so ugly
Each to their own. What makes it ugly?
@@TimWilliamsHD ahh imo it looks like a turtle doesnt look complete if that makes sense the r8 would be the complete look i guess