*Dear Netflix:* *Please pay me a part-time salary to write comedies for you.* *I don't suppose you can do any worse than choosing a citizen of Earth at random.* *Sincerely, some guy on the internet*
My conspiracy theory is that these kind of shows actually ARE for children, they are advertised as being for adults because kids like to watch stuff they're not supposed to
@@henrynelson9301 ...I love Criticism-Videos like this here. Hope Jay makes longer ones again. But until then, i have Madvocate, Hbomberguy and (if we stretch the Defintion beyond just Film-Criticism) the whole Channel of Some-More-News.
Tell you what, I've been going through all of Frasier and hoo boy does it sometimes get lazy with what I used to call Hypocrite Jokes. I remember Will & Grace suffered a lot from it too. So many jokes like Character 1: "I hate McDonalds. Awful food, terrible atmosphere, miserable staff." Character 2: "Yeah, they're the absolute worst!" *Pause for dramatic effect* Character 1: "So, do you fancy a Big Mac?" Character 2: "OMG yes, I'm starving" *Canned laughter for 30 straight seconds* And that just shows how old that form of joke already is. And it hasn't changed in execution, just the words leading up to it. It was tired 30 years ago.
I still find it hilarious for shit like playing league with the bois again. *lost game, everyone angery af* "Yall ready to run it back?" "Of course." Gets me everytime
Its like one of those slow moving conveyer belts with kinda dry sushi on it. Like, the only possible subversion is to perhaps view only one single scene in a vacuum. For some reason, these shows demo well to those that greenlight projects but goodness theyre vile, joyless wastelands. Arrested Development was considered to be “too smart” for audiences and had production troubles. But apparently “safe” bets like an endless roast of cardboard cutouts shows what execs thinks we find funny, and what is needed to keep the “jokes” apparent (remember laugh tracks?).
I will say, the first time I played DND I was trapped in a room because I didn't think to open the door. I tried to break the door down with an axe before I tried to use the doorknob
I ran a dungeon with a locked stone door that, whenever you tried to open it said "hehehe that tickles!" And would only open it if you tickled it The first time I ran it the party immediately ticked the door, the 2nd time I ran it it took 45 mins 🤦🏻♂️
To be fair, that's like most DND excursions from my experience. I guess we're all wired to think the DM has set up some kind of trap so instead of going for the doorknob, you've got one guy trying to check around the room for a secret passage, and another trying to bust the door down.
@@soulsearcher9620 Don't forget the first-timer who rolls nat 20s out the ASS, then does the wackiest things they can think of and starts giggling about how fun the game is while everyone else is just sighing or face-palming.
me & a few buddies were stuck in cages - tabaxi party member tried to pick his lock w/ a claw, heard a click, but couldn't get out. i tried my door after several minutes and it opened b/c it was never locked, but we then had to get the tabaxi out who had managed to lock the door when he failed to pick it. good times.
42:39 what kills me is that, especially compared to the rest of the montage, the line 'I would never apologise to a woman, and if that bothers you Ethel, well I apologise' actually is a tiny bit more cleverly written, but then they couldn't possibly have an almost functional joke so they have to then immediately have another character go bUt YoU jUsT dId
Or even if he hadn’t said “apologize” twice, just “I would never apologize to a woman, and if that bothers you Ethel, well I’m sorry!” Still not a good joke, but more competent by a micrometer if nothing else lol
I don't think I've loathe an artstyle more than this one. Everything's looks so lazily drawn and janky yet the show has like random very well animated segments. It bothers me to no end
Maybe instead of just making another human, and if they wanted a talking bear character, they could have put a giant bear in a park ranger outfit and had it try and pretend to be human? Or make it think it was human and have the whole world treat it as a regular human? Which honestly, picturing these scenes with a giant bear in place of connie is actually pretty funny.
That's a good point; it's like these "adult animated comedies" are using a middle-schooler's or teenager's conceptualization of "adult" humour/language/themes.
That means that if you haven't already, you should watch Archer. The vast majority of the humor is based on its snappy dialog, not just "it's funny because they said something and then the opposite happened"
Archer, Bob's Burgers, Bojack Horseman, Tuca and Bertie, maybe two others. I also stan SUPERJAIL! and Xavier Renegade Angel, because while they do lean into gross-out humor at times it's done by burying the audience in a cavalcade of insane animation, lightning fast wordplay, and characters you just won't see anywhere else: The Warden alone is the answer to the question "What if Willy Wonka could shapeshift and had even less than zero regard for human life?" It's not just the same human-shaped tropes from Family Guy or South Park standing around shouting obscenities.
@@tjenadonn6158 XRA is dope, I like that the hideous visuals make it memorable af, haven't seen anything else that is so deranged yet brilliantly made either in animation or other media.
What gets me isn't that the three shows are all bad, it's that the team somehow did the same crap three times in a row and barely learn anything new. They feel so proud of something that clearly didn't go beyond a first draft.
That would be like if Craig McCracken made Wander over Yonder but it wasn't much different from Powerpuff Girls or if Genndy Tartakovsky made Sym-Bionic Titan but it wasn't much different from Dexter's Laboratory.
Honestly insane to me how Chris Parnell voiced both of them, man really just became a character actor for animated punching bags. Also only the real ones remember him as Geoffrey Hoytzman
Fun fact about Maloy - he's voiced by Daniel Tosh, of Tosh.0 fame. He's gone on record to say that Comedy Central would only buy the show if he did the voice for Maloy. Thinking about that, it kinda explains why the character's lines are so awful and why he feels like an afterthought.
Ironically, this was the very thing that made me interested in the show to begin with. I enjoyed the Tosh.0 format, and when I heard the description of Malloy, I thought it had promise. I was so, so wrong.
That makes sense. Daniel tosh is peak American comedy. Pointlessly Cruel, unfunny, targets the vulnerable and steals the hardworking of others while acting smug and hard working
Yup. IMO the only major punching bag charecter that actually works is Klaus from American Dad. Specifically because they characterize him as a genuine POS who deserves it.
Plus Klaus is a well rounded character whos genuinely funny and has character beats outside of punching bag. It isn't the only thing they do with him. Which helps it work better when they do.
I haven’t watched the show so I have to ask… is she actually written as predatory? Or is she written as showing interest in women who aren’t interested in her? Cuz that’s a way straight men are written all the time and no one bats an eyelash
I knew an animator who worked on Brickleberry. She said talking with her supervisor on how to improve the "comedic" r*pe scene she was working on as one of the most awkward situations she'd ever been put in. She happily fled after just a few episodes to work on a braindead but non-r*pey kid's show at another studio. (As did her supervisor)
@@TazKoltin I don't disagree on that, but I don't think censoring a single letter from the word is going to mitigate that when it's still incredibly obvious what word it is...
I don't know how they did it, but somebody somewhere created an entire animation style that immediately tells me a show isn't worth even considering, let alone watching.
They're both stroke-inducingly awful, and have near identical art styles (they even have some of the same voice actors, playing the same roles). I don't blame you.
Fun fact: In Germany during those specific times of the 1900's, homosexuals were often forced to wear a large upside-down pink triangle on their clothing, particularly on their left side and around where the breast pocket would be. Now if you look very closely at Connie's character design, you'll notice something around that area that doesn't really need to be on her official park ranger uniform...
@@cogahanNo, they had to wear it everywhere, it meant they could easily discriminated against in shops and the like. Same with Jews and disabled and Roma and the like iirc.
It's honestly a shame that shows like these constantly get greenlit while actual competent storytellers and animators get thrown out the window without second thought. An entire network to animation has been pretty much killed this year.
My theory is that executives are going "Oh, yeah we've seen a few shows like that all get greenlit, sure go right ahead." And never bother looking at how they did.
I had that Archer moment where the guy asked if checking his six meant drawing a six-shooter. It was a lifetime ago when I was all of like 15 and my buddy was explaining a few driving tips that some guy he knew had taught him. One of the tips was, as he said, "So, a good thing to remember is to grab the wheel at 10 and 2." Well, I didn't know what the fuck he was talking about at the time, he might as well have been speaking in tongues. But, I didn't let that stop me because I wanted to sound like I was 'in the know', so I responded as if I immediately understood by nodding and said, "Right, 10 fingers, 2 hands, makes sense." He had a hearty laugh and I learned what 10 and 2 actually meant.
i think why pam isn't insufferably punchbag-ified is because she's so extremely confident in herself and is never really put down by the jokes and has her other traits such as being involved in criminal undergrounds and a complete badass
it also helps that pretty much every character in Archer has their moments of both ends of that particular spectrum, makes them feel very human and enhances the traits too- Pam's confidence and triumphant moments stick out more because shes on first impression an easy target for ridicule, Archer's missups have a bigger impact because he's on first impression the one to dish em out Gintama is another example of hitting that rare balance
It feels like the characters are always on a pretty level playing field in Archer. Brickleberry feels like certain characters always have the upper hand, and if they need things to work differently, they just reverse roles. The "funny" person is always in the dominant role.
I love seeing her go on a full-on Pampage. Archer has a variety of complex and interesting characters. The jokes made are not just one note. Even the ones that are, can be hysterical. My favorite involves a great one liner: He died doing what he loved, getting shot." RIP Brett.
@@xerxBreak With Archer you know if there was an episode where they had to get normal jobs and weren't allowed to do illegal stuff, eg losing their firearms permits, you'd know that Cyril would just do tax accountancy, probably with Pam as his assistant, Ray would go back to interior decoration, and Archer would be the punchline, being forced into sex-work on the street. Sure its predictable after watching however many seasons of Archer, but thats the difference between Sterling and Malloy, Sterling is allowed to suck at something.
I find they illustrate how far the nepotism goes because neither of us are likely to be offered the job of writing them despite the bar for talent being as low as it is.
@jochen jockel I take it that if I told you I would gesture this entire show and say 'this is how so', that wouldn't be a satisfying response to you? Seriously though-I watched this months ago, so I can't remember too clearly-but I'm pretty sure the explanations in this video cover why I arrived at this conclusion.
I think this is partly true, but I think there's a deeper question that it raises. If this is what it looks like when a bully peaks in high school and still thinks he was funny, how does a guy like that get rewarded with his own TV/Streaming show?
@@mjacton Because when it comes to adult animated comedies, corporate dunderheads will greenlight ANYTHING for a chance to be the ones airing the next big adult animated comedy.
@@jochenjockel This show seems to have been made by creators who carry that highschool mean girl mindset of "OMG, that guy's *[undesirable trait]* ! Everybody point and laugh at how *[undesirable trait] *that guy is!" since they don't seem to have any other kind of joke in their pocket. I remember when someone being "nerdy" or "slutty" or "ugly" or "fat" was peak humour for my highschool classmates, but now we're adults, we've grown out of it. Most adults don't care how "fat" or "ugly" or "nerdy" someone is, and the ones who do generally are the immature ones stuck with that same mindset as highschoolers, which are often the ones people consider as peaking in highschool because they always seem mentally stuck there in development.
The thing that gets me is that if you go into the comments of Brickleberry clips, you'll see loads of comments saying how Brickleberry couldn't be made today, despite having two other copies made exactly the same way, because everything is too PC and woke. The core audience does not care about a good joke or anything clever, they just want crude offensive humor to laugh at because they get off on the idea that shows like these piss people off for being crude and offensive.
It's not because other people find it offensive. It's because that's what I find funny. It mimics the type of crude humor that my friends and I make at each others expense over beer. Comedy is a low art, and highbrow satire is normally just as shallow but gets praised for going only after approved targets.
You know what would have been actually funny? If in the scene where Meloy shoots Steve, they reversed the roles. Steve shoots Meloy into the disintegration lake, and it's played off as a "Steve is stupid gag" right until the subversion that Steve knows, and just wanted some payback from earlier
@@ammagon4519 lmao yeah. I actually had the idea of approaching people with Malloy tattoos and acting like idk what Brickleberry is and being like “oh cool tattoo I’m a furry too!” to see their reaction
If I were able to try and fix Malloy as a character with one change, I would stop having him be a terrible person to literally everyone all the time and give him a specific vendetta against Steve because he’s the one who killed his parents. That would make the backstory actually make some sense and instead of being a vain attempt at making him likable.
Would also help explain why he's tolerated by the others. It doesn't make much sense when the character is hateful towards everyone but somehow still gets invited to hang out with the group.
I think an example of Malloy's type of character actually being done well is Pigeon in Mike Tyson Mysteries. Pigeon is basically the same character but he constantly gets shit on in various ways and is acknowledged to be awful by other characters besides Mike. In fact the main joke with Mike and Pigeon is that Mike is just completely oblivious to how shitty of a person (or bird I guess?) Pigeon is. Mike being oblivious to Pigeon's behavior is funny because it's contrasted with other characters constantly recognizing his behavior for what it is. Sun Yee and Marcus insult back Pigeon constantly and judge him for his shitty behavior. It helps he's also voiced by Norm Macdonald who is alot more talented and charismatic then Daniel Tosh. But mainly I think the fact the show recognizes and punishes Pigeon repeatedly for being an asshole character is what makes him work. As well as just having better written dialogue and jokes in general.
The "joke" with Malloy walking in on the wheelchair bound kid would be considerably funnier if, right after going "this is going to be so easy" it cuts to him being the one being thrown out the window. Or maybe I'm saying that because despite how little I've seen of the little bastard, I just really need him to eat proper crow.
The funny thing is that the joke at 23:30 isn't impossible to work with. I figured out a setup that I think might work better. When Steve says they have to figure out how to fake a natural disaster, Ethel then says she has an idea. Malloy then says "What, an idea on how to fake it? I believe you." Although the joke is still a jab at Ethel's promiscuity, it's a lot more subtle so it isn't immediately obviously relying on one of the "funny words" the show loves. Maybe a show like this could actually work with better writing, who knows?
i always have this kind of attitude when i hear a terrible joke from brickleberry (or cop brickleberry, or space brickleberry pick your poison). i just think, i could come up with a better joke than that in 5 seconds. it's unbelievable
One thing I hate is how lazily written most adult animated shows are. They saw how successful Family Guy was and just decided: "haha swearing and violence and sex jokes = funny."
Even Seth MacFarlane said that he's sick of Family Guy, but they pay him an ungodly amount of money, so he keeps making it. He also hasn't written the show in years. Last time I watched it was a few years ago to give it one last chance. Six first-run episodes and all of them had a rape joke in them and none of them gave me a single laugh, so I was done. I gave it a chance, but there was nothing creative about any of the episodes. Just the characters doing the same thing they'd been doing for the previous ten years.
I love how Jimmy Jr. Pesto, an incredibly minor side character in bob's burgers, has more character than the most deep characters in all 3 of these shows.
@@bailoutexistsYeah but by minor I think they mean that without jimmy jr the show is still mostly complete and could still go on, he'd be missed but it wouldn't really effect the show yet they still give him depth and respect the characters character traita
@@bailoutexists Forgot about this but what I meant is that if Jimmy Jr never existed and was just replaced with some other boy there wouldn't be much lost and it wouldn't really effect Tina's character. While a more important side character like Teddy would actually leave a hole in the show that pretty much no other character could fill if he was never added. Jimmy Jr is important to Tinas character but he's not really important because of him, he's important because of what he means to Tina.
I think the reason the clown stuff is funnier is because the "jokes" are improvised. He had to come up with those insults on the fly about people he just met instead of transparently manufacturing characters for that purpose.
That seems to be implying that Brickleberry scripts went through more than one draft before being animated. It's already depressing enough to imagine them putting put no effort into these shows and still getting aired. I don't want to have to imagine that any of their jokes actually went through a review process and the writers actually stand behind their material.
*see overweight unattractive chick* "what is this, fat ugly chick day?" Yeah... "improvised jokes on the fly" Probably too him a lot of brain power to come-up with such intricate and mind-pleasing zingers...
your critiques on 'adult' western animated comedies are just like... cathartic? we've all been lamenting it for ages, but somebody is finally putting it all into words. looking forward to part 2 :+)
You know, Jay, you don't always have to torture yourself with awful shows. You can just make a video on how good Archer is, and we'll watch it. I promise.
Ngl I’d watch that. Never really minded Archer before. Heard about it in passing, but I never really had the idea to watch it. But now I do thanks to Jay’s recommendations. I’d totally watch a video by him going over the characters and how good the show is.
@@Cheetahgirl_Studios Sealab 2021, Frisky Dingo, everything from the studio that does Archer has been great. 70/30 was their original name but it might have changed
I just want to take the time to appreciate that you set up Kevin from the beginning of the video by calling Steve "Kevin" and acting like you didn't know why you said that, only to suddenly bring Kevin up at the very end of the video. It genuinely made that transition so much smoother than it had any right to be.
That transition into paradise PD was so smooth it genuinely had me double taking and rewinding the video several times to catch the exact moment it happened.
20:17 Jay casually mentioning the fact that Brickleberry has at least 3 seasons felt like swimming, looking down and seeing a shark speeding towards me.
Seeing the worst cartoons in existence have a bunch of seasons while masterpieces of cartoons like final space, infinity train, and the owl house all getting cut makes my fucking blood boil
The delayed timing is the joke, it's what makes it funny for me too. You expect Peter to hit Meg, then poorly pretend it was an accident because he's a jerk. Instead, he intentionally waits long enough to show it wasn't an accident, but then sounds genuinely concerned. It pays off on your knowledge of the character while still subverting your expectations.
Yeah not gonna cap, I hate the Meg bashing in family guy. But that baseball bat scene was genuinely pretty good. I think it's the fact that Peter waited for Meg to finish speaking before hitting her, then apologizing. I feel like that joke alone by itself is a good subvert of expectations.
Probably being overly sensitive here but the “jokes” involving Connie make my skin crawl. Her characterization of being a predatory, ugly “she-beast” is *exactly* what my middle school bullies would constantly use to make my life a living hell. This show literally feels like what would happen if a bully got a writing job, and that alone should be a sign that it won’t hold up as a comedy at all.
@@Evil_Incorporate didn't realize there was an exact equation/definition to comedy....I thought it was subjective.....an art form....but I guess one shouldn't dare color outside the lines, right?
@@Cazz8203 shitting on stuff isnt comedy. Your definition of comedy isnt artistic or whatever woke bullshit you think it is. White trash people thinking theyre Rick sanchez because they speak their minds is infuriating. Its not 1984 you can say whatever you want. But dont expect everyone to aplaud with praise or get surprised by others shitting back at you.
@@Cazz8203comedy being subjective doesn't mean that it has no definition or that aspects of it aren't objective. like, flavour is also subjective but some things objectively taste like sh*t. "cOmEdY iS sUbJeCtIvE" is such a tired excuse made by lazy people who have no actual response to valid criticism. it's the "tHaT's JuSt My OpInIoN" of comedic discussion. you're just admitting that you're being willfully ignorant. also you sure love using ellipsis huh? lmao
The thing about that 'unless he buys you two drinks' joke is that, if that's where the joke *ended*, it would actually be half-decent, but they have to drag it out into something utterly obnoxious.
Similarly the joke at 20:30 would've been better if the line was something like "The one who gets around a lot knows about faking something. Go figure" instead of being like "LoL gOnOrRhEa"
*Brickleberry has its own wiki.* *Either someone got paid to make it, OR SOMEONE WASTED HOURS OF THEIR LIFE TO MAKE IT.* Honestly, I don't know which would be more depressing.
I think its generally fine for someone to wanna make a wiki about whatever it is that they like, i've contributed to wikis based on media i like so why not? The problem is though that the Brickleberry wiki isn't just a wiki about Brickleberry, it's also racist for some fucking reason
The worst part about this show being mean spirited is not that mean spirited humor is bad. It's that it is mean spirited without leading to anything funny.
the issue with meanspirited comedy in adult animation imo is mainly 1. it's freaking EVERYWHERE nowadays to the point smiling friends having its characters actually be friends is surprising and 2. it's SUPER easy to screw up. there's a reason an episode being meanspirited is a common complaint in the cartoon community, even if you think it's overused.
The reason it doesn't lead to anything funny is because none of the characters it's used against particularly deserve it. It's the same with Family Guy honestly, the concept of punching bag characters aren't funny. It only works if you actively dislike the character for some reason, and being ugly isn't enough for someone with even two braincells to rub together.
That bit with the clown made me realize why I love something like Eric Andre's street gags. Whenever he does something in public, he's usually the butt of the joke. He is usually doing something embarrassing in public, he is doing something stupid to get the public's reactions. And the joke not only is how the public reacts to it, but whatever stupid thing he has up his sleeve to propel the bit. It isn't just "Hi random person, you have mockable attribute deemed so by me, receive ridicule. Also I'm a clown I guess."
If it was actual random, unprompted people that clown was insulting, I'm surprised he never accidentally fucked with the wrong person and got thumbs jammed in his eye sockets or something.
Most of the comments in defense of Brickleberry are like, “Wow, what a snowflake”. Not once is he offended by a joke. I mean, he's offended by how unfunny they are, but that's not what they meant. Not liking repetitive and predictable jokes by 2d characters doesn't make you a snowflake, it makes you a reasonable human being.
The jokes in Brickleberry are funny, not burdened by the weight of the apparent “high style”, which, in fact, has the same structure, but closed by a bunch of taboo walls. Well, you just have bad humor.
@@Николай-ж8щ1у When I can predict a joke before it happens damn near every goddamn time, a joke that has been told a million times in funnier shows, I'm sorry if I just don't find the humor in it anymore. They don't defy expectation, they don't make jokes that push the envelope, and they don't bother with a story structure that is any way compelling. They don't even bother writing characters that are likeable or likably despicable. The only reason I would ever put this on is to fill dead air, and even then, I would pick a show that wasn't so offensively mediocre. It's a by the numbers, soulless, corporate nightmare that was produced by looking at the adult animation industry and picking all the safest and 'meh' examples to base their show off of. South Park, Family Guy, The Cleveland Show, Smiling Friends, American Dad, Futurama, The Boondocks, Bob's Burgers, these shows range from decent to terrible, to incredible at times, but they all have one thing in common. I have actually laughed while watching them. Something that brickleberry has never accomplished. TL;DR: Brickleberry bad and boring and stupid and dumb and boring.
I fucking love her she becomes such a sweet teddy bear of a character in the later seasons lol (+ I like that she's the only person without combat training who can still kick the shit out of people)
@@thechosenjuan8776 the kidnapping arc is my favorite behind Krieger shenanigans, the twist that Pam is a total badass while still keeping her negative traits was a real twist but loyal to the character. Example: Kills a man bare knuckle boxing "Sorry about your homie, homies"
Another joke with that same premise is from a mini web series called Zach and make made by piemations. It’s also funny especially since the landlord was genuinely like “you paid 8 months ago, you’re all set sorry about that”
The most frustrating thing about the lake bit is that they’re not actually a continent away from a decent joke. ‘I wonder if it cures b___h’ and shoving someone in could be kind of funny if two things happened: 1) Ethel was actually being nasty in that scene. But as it is the first thing she does is express concern for Connie and, from these clips, seems to be the only character who ever does so. She’s not acting in a way, and I don’t think it’s established in her character that she’s especially, deserving of that insult. 2) Coming out of the lake prompted her to act more nicely, implying that it might ACTUALLY have caused a personality shift, only to have it be subverted. You could even incorporate the shotgun cut-off by having her shoot Malloy into the lake, making a kind of hard cut from ‘oh is she different’ to ‘nope, still Ethel’ by her taking lethal vengeance, while also acting as Malloy receiving his comeuppance. Is that a good joke? No, it’s something that your friends would pull at a D&D table in total improv, not professional writer or writers with weeks to prepare their material. But it’s at least conceptually _a joke._
Watching this video I literally came up with a better joke than the writers did. At 23:33, when Ethel says "I've got it" in response to another character asking whether they could fake a tornado, Malloy could've just said something along the lines of "I bet you've got a lot of experience with faking it". Simple, still pokes fun at Ethel's promiscuity, but it's a lot less lazy and actually ties into the scene. Of course, it still has the problem of not being a particularly good joke, but that's not something I can fix.
Genuinely I thought that was where the joke was going, and yes, it would be a bit predictable, but I actually laughed in anticipation because at least it was a joke. What they wrote instead was just a non sequitur, which I suppose can be funny, but Malloy's delivery really doesn't carry it
I love "punching bag" characters when a show has more than one and when they do more than just get hurt. It's even better when a point is being made about the punching, like Dib Membrane being bullied because humanity is resistant to new ideas. We're on _his_ side. But it's still funny because he's fictional.
Jerry/ Gary/ Terry from Parks and Rec is on of my favourite examples of a punching bag character because 1, the characters are barely ever justified in their treatment of him and 2, outside of his job he has the most perfect possible life anyone could ask for
I think Zoidberg was a pretty good punching bag character because he had actual depth and it was established in canon that he doesn't entirely deserve it (source: he's literally the only being on earth that makes it onto robot Santa's nice list)
being an ugly fatass myself, and someone who had been called "this thing" for the majority of my life, i genuinely appreciate how much time and energy you've put into tearing this one "joke" type down. it's heartwarming, and also you are hilarious. almost makes me want to watch archer, too.
Hope you'd get "used to it" bro, what I mean by that is that these "jokes" they call you would immediately just become boring and repetitive rather than insulting. Not really a good advice, but hope it helps. Sincerely, some guy who's a bit ugly fatgss as well
@@ammagon4519 shit advice bro, 1. i am 27 so this had been going on for years, 2. expecting people to just get used to being berated non stop is just plain wrong, and 3. i actually have more than one suicide attempt under my belt due to always being "that thing", "that ugly one lol" in school and hearing people talk shit about me behind my back as i am simply walking down the street. plus i did not go to therapy for years just to "get used to it". that's like telling a gay person (which also applies to me) to just "get used to" all the hate they experience. plus regularly being discriminated against at the doctor's office due to being fat is also not something one should "get used to". ever. i am now dead inside enough to not be afraid to be verbally, or even physically, abusive in return, but "getting used to it" literally is the worst advice possible in this scenario.
I know you've probably heard it a million times, and I'm sorry if I sound like a broken record, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I'm sure you are a handsome dude. I'm sure, if you'd ever want to or want to, that you'll find someone out there for you one day too that thinks the same. I also am of the mindset that everyone has a style, that if they find it, makes the look good. Sorry bout that I just don't like it when people put themselves down. TL;DR I bet you are gorgeous in your own way
the thing I liked about smiling friends was just how nice everyone was to each other. Sure they had disagreements and could be a little rude sometimes but the main cast were genuinely friends with each other I'm so sick of shows where the characters are constantly being peices of shit to each other
@@henrynelson9301 The Christmas episode you can even sympathize with both Pim and Charlie when they've already built up to their personalities. Their fight seemed like a genuine problem between friends, being overtly pessimistic and being overtly optimistic.
Yeah same, honestly. It was a breath of fresh air and made for comedy I haven't seen a million times before in other shows, so I could actually be surprised by stuff and find it funny The joke at the end of frowning friends is one of the best in the series for me They're so good at writing small meaningless but funny arguments between characters Also the "get out of me head" guy will never not be funny to me
Somes jokes does the "everyone is a jerk" thing well, like Bojack-Horseman But that only work because beside Bojack no-one is a jerk and mostly find each-others unpleasant for no-reasons, every characters is complexe and has layers of personnalities Princess-Caroline isn't a jerk to peoples because that's "funny, she's mostly a jerk to others because she's a workaholic who doesn't have time to be nice to peoples, she has to be assertive and immediately get what she want from peoples that are irrelevant to her work. Diana isn't just a boring goody-two-shoes who constantly bring down anyone she's judging not to her standards as a human-being, she's a deeply insecure woman who doesn't even know what she want from life in the first place, and is projecting the idealized standards she has on everyone and everything else in her life. And above theses very human traits that mostly explain why characters are unpleasants, They're not ALWAYS in total botch-mode. Even Bojack, the king of assholes himself, can show empathy and decency once in a while. Writing unjustified assholes being assholes to each-others isn't funny, Writing characters who's flaws clashes for understandable reasons is.
Oh please dude ASDF movie is fine, but you are so fucking full of shit here. You’re actually acting like it’s this genius thing where it’s minimal “by design” and it couldn’t possibly work any other way. He has a mustache Bc that’s all you need to know huh? Then the kid doesn’t have anything to distinguish him for some reason, probably bc the designs are simple for two reasons. It’s appealing, and it’s EASY. Easier to draw and easier to animate. It’s what most animated videos online were at the time, stick figures doing random shit. It is so god damn corny and pseudo intellectual to look at one of the COUNTLESS stick figure movie type things that has a blank background with the occasional clouds or something (again because it’s EASY) and act like it’s some minimal masterpiece. They didn’t draw clouds Bc that “perspective shot” Is all that mattered it’s because it’s easier to draw some clouds then an entire outside background.
@@chee.rah.monurB I mean he's an unfunny, uncreative hack who seems to think he's much funnier and much more creative than he actually is. The fact that he was also an executive producer on the show is just a real 'oh, well, of course he is' moment.
I think the lake joke would have been funnier if Malloy did the joke FIRST. As in before anyone other than the boss knew the lake could heal. "Malloy! How did you know the lake heals people?!" "The lake what?!"
I really hate the fact that random UA-cam comments can make a funnier more complete joke than the professional writers who were paid to have this crap air on TV
Here's another joke that was right in their faces "What is your name?" "Uh...Mario?" "Mario what?" "...Mario?" The Mario Brothers don't have a canonical last name, but it's been a joke for a long time that their last name is Mario (why are they called the Mario Brothers if their last name isn't Mario?) Ffs the first Mario movie, which is AWFUL on so many levels, nailed this joke. EVEN IF no one got the Nintendo reference, there's still the joke of "he can't think on his feet".
Maybe I'm sleep deprived but the First Name 'Mario' Last Name 'Brothers' joke actually popped me. The delivery was good, but unfortunately much like delivering a pizza to a trailer currently being thrown about the air by a tornado, it doesn't make the surrounding circumstances much better even if by some miracle you manage to pull it off every once in a while
To me, here’s how I’d fix the joke: Setup: Make the mobsters italian, and include a scene earlier where Steve is playing on a Gameboy or something earlier in the episode. Buildup: When the mafia confronts Steve, we see him struggling to give them a fake name, before suddenly blurting out “MY NAME IS MARIO!”. Then i’d Follow it up with him realizing how stupid his mistake was, and desperately trying to fix it by adding “BROTHER…son…” as a last name. The mafia then lean in, and say “No kidding… my COUSIN is named Mario Brotherson! Ah, you are going to fit in perfectly around here my friend!” Cut to Steve being relieved, as Denzel exclaims “say WHAT now!?” and Steve responds more confidently with “Oh don’t mind my brother Luigi… he’s just jealous of being second banana, you know how brothers are…” And the mafia ends with “I certainly do my friend, that’s just how it rolls in the family business am I right?”
A rare example of an actually funny and subversive implementation of the "says a thing but the opposite thing happens" trope can be found in The Last Airbender, when Toph is taken prisoner. Katara expresses genuine concern for Toph, which is completely in line with her character, allowing the scene to transition to Toph, who has been introduced recently enough that her outburst takes you by surprise and is genuinely entertaining.
I think that was Toph's mom, Mrs. Beifong. When she says how Toph must be so scared, then it transitions to Toph saying to let her out of the cage so she can smack the grin off of the wrestling owner's face, and then he says he's not smiling.
Honestly that’s one thing I’ve noticed about these bad animated “comedies” is that they tend to over explain or over do the joke even when it was already obvious. A similar example I can think of was in paradise PD when a mafia boss was pointed out as sounding like the count on Sesame Street and he reply’s with how that’s ridiculous while sounding like the count which honestly would’ve been funny but then they double down by making him count with thunder in the background as if we didn’t already get it and they preside to make him do that in every other scene he’s in and it just becomes annoying and stupid.
What's funny is that The Simpsons had an almost identical line back in the late 90's where Homer went "I never apologise.. I'm sorry, but that's just the way I am".
Jay's setup for part two was genuinely brilliant. It caught me off guard. I was listening to it in the background as I tend to with video essays, and I heard him say Kevin and not correct himself, and ending the segment with "wait who tf are any of these characters" is just so well timed and written.
He just keeps going on with the gag, dissecting the scene as if nothing's wrong until suddenly he calls attention to it and ends the video lmao. Now _that's_ comedy.
20:20 jesus christ as a woman who feels like a Connie that's mortifying. The thought that I could be opening myself up to that kind of intimate interaction and then for a curtain to be lifted and a group of people with cameras telling me I'm ugly is absolutely gut wrenching. That is a fear that I know many other people have. The fear that everything in your life is fake and the people around you are waiting for you to believe them so they can rip that rug out from under you and call you stupid for ever believing someone could ever love you like that.
That scene struck me as particularly vile as well. I've experienced bullying for most of my childhood so fear of intimacy has become kind of engrained into me. I guess the argument for the show is ""well its shock comedy its supposed 2 have horrible things happening"" but like, I feel like I need to know what mental processes were involved into thinking this was a remotely good idea.
@@charmandyorton006 I wouldn’t be surprised if they were really pathetic bullies in their childhood, or that their moms let them watch rated r movies when they were kids
I relate. Im neurodivergent and Ive had so many instances were i genuinely thought someone wanted to talk and be friends with me, but then i look back and see their friends watching and they all start giggling.
A character like Malloy makes so Littles sense because he's so obviously an attempt at a stewie from family guy... While ALSO making him a Brian. Like that makes no sense because Bryan is supposed to be more rational to point out stupid stuff, while stewie is malicious in his actions despite being a baby. Combining them just makes an asshole that the show pretends is the rational one just because he dunks on the stupid annoying characters. Stewie rarely receives consequences because he's a baby, and Malloy has the same thing going for him because he's Woody's pet. It makes me believe that Malloy is some sort of self insert for insults they want to tell people in their real lives but they can't because they're too cowardly to go back to the clown shenanigans.
They take the absurdity away from making him a talking animal character by making him look so fucking ugly to the point that until this video, I couldn't tell what animal he was. He also doesn't even act like an animal, he has a phone and eats human food and walks on two legs. Everyone talks to him and he's mean to all of them for no reason (besides Steve). He just seems like a real damn jerk, not a fun reasonable character like Bryan or a funny absurd character like Stewie. Also, Bryan's role of voice of reason is usually filled by Denzel anyways. So Malloy does nothing funny or absurd, is mean to everyone, and is a bear cub I guess. I really don't like this thing
I feel like an example of a good character who does what Maloy is trying to do is Bender from Futurama. I can totally see him shooting someone because he knows they'll be healed or being happy that someone just got shot in front of him but then at the same time he's a complex character who does way more than just be an asshole to everyone all the time
I agree! I think Bender is the gold standard for writing a comic relief character. While he’s a total jerk that constantly dunks on the other characters, they also do a great job exploring what makes him tick. There’s more to the joke than just ‘haha he’s a robot that drinks and swears’, they also like to explore how he’s a robot that also struggled immensely with existentialism. And the fact that he’s a robot actually is integral to his character and how he’s written. Malloy could literally be ANYTHING and there would be no change in how he’s written. But with Bender, they explain that he drinks so much because it’s basically fuel to him as a robot, or will make jokes about him being attracted to appliances or other machines because of the fact he’s also a machine.
I think Roger from American Dad! Is another good example. While he has done shitty things to people before (and even his family) he doesn't go out of his way to hurt them if he genuinely likes them. For example while he loves his family the only times he's ever gone out of his way to do something mean to them is if they did something to him first (even if it's really petty). He once tried to kill Steve for making him look like a fool in a children's book but once he actually thought he succeeded he immediately regrets it and tries to save him with nothing but a spoon. (Though he did end up getting his revenge at the end of the episode as a last minute gag). Plus it's revealed in one episode that the reason he's such a jerk is because it's sort of like his life force, if he isn't a jerk he'll slowly die a horrible death but it doesn't stop him from being nice when he genuinely wants to.
I'll give you another one: Church from Red vs. Blue. He's the straight man throughout the show, and while arguably the least skilled in many fields, he is the most competent of not only his team but most of the larger ensemble. He's rude, impatient, and most defined by his irritability, sometimes will overreact to otherwise inoffensive behavior and/or minor inconveniences. However, like I said, he's otherwise very responsible, often the only one getting anything done, despite how ill-equipped he is and the lack of his colleagues' willingness (if not ability) to help him is a sympathetic justification for his endless frustrations. He might be the only character grounded enough in his specific character traits for the audience to find relatable. We've all been this guy at least once in our lives. Church is mean because of the context of the setting. Malloy is mean because the writers just decided for to him to be that.
Also Malloy just seems to hate everyone for no reason. From what I've seen in the video he just straight up slut shames Ethal even though she never did anything to him? If anything she's the nicest (and probably the most competent) out of all of them so why does he just seem to target her? Then there's the fact he shoots Steve when he's pissed at Woody for killing a ton of people?! He's meant to be a Stewie Griffin Clone but not even he was a heartless psychopath!!
The worst part is that it would be so easy to turn the wheelchair kid into an actual joke, like... Just have the kid pull up an assault rifle after Malloy says it'll be easy.
Or his chair unfolds into a giant robot for some reason; Then you could follow with the sounds of a fistfight, and the wheelchair kid flying out the window, with malloy smugly saying “Yep... easy!” A double twist of sorts
43:15 I laughed at this scene, not because the joke was funny, but actually because of how you clipped it together, Kevin blowing up and then it going to the next scene gave me a good chuckle
22:40 I feel like this joke could've worked if Mallow was more confused than cocky. Like "Wait, I thought you were a lesbian" "I was rammed in a car wreck, Mallow" "Ah shit, my B."
I think they are trying to make Malloy into a Cartman-like villain character, but the thing with Cartman is that he usually gets his comeuppance in the episode. So in the miracle lake episode Cartman would try to sell it but once the lake goes bad and he would end up naked and humiliated. If every episode ended like Scott Tenorman must die and Cartman won (and even then he gets humiliated in that episode) the character would be obnoxious and unlikable.
The Scott Tenorman episode would also lose some of its power, since it subverted expectations about Cartman's plan failing. The writing in these other shows isn't nearly as well-crafted as early South Park for this reason imo
and at least with Cartman there is crazy character development coupled with backstory that explains why he is the way he is, and how he's become the psycho he is. Malloy is just a dickhead
@@joemancini9969 You mean Farzar? In the very first minute you might think it’s the cooles sh1t ever, until you begin to recognize the art style and the first dick „joke“ comes up and the sudden realization hits you that it‘s ONE OF *THOSE* ☠️ oh my god please TURN IT OFF aarrgh
I remember seeing the previews for Brickleberry and thinking, "oh, a group of wacky park rangers at a third-rate national park. That's a great set-up for a lot of different jokes." I made it one and a quarter episodes. And I only watched a quarter of the second one because sometimes the first episode of a show isn't very good because it's needed to set up the characters and premise. But by about eight minutes into the second episode, I knew it wasn't getting any better.
I read Malloy as Mallory at first and thought you were talking about Archer's mom. She's an asshole but a legitimately funny one. I think the thing that makes _Archer_ work is that despite the characters saying mean stuff to each other constantly they're all the butt of the joke at least sometimes. That helps the show seems more like friends joking with one another than people who are just mean assholes.
@@BiggieTrismegistus Also a good amount of the jokes are, out of universe, double edged swords. Half of the jokes that come out of Archer's mouth are from the writers at his expense.
*Dear Netflix:*
*Please pay me a part-time salary to write comedies for you.*
*I don't suppose you can do any worse than choosing a citizen of Earth at random.*
*Sincerely, some guy on the internet*
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Yeah uh actually ur a bad writer (omg what a burn I'm so funny see Netflix you should actually hire me)
@@TheGreatsagegoku Writer? More like Wrong-er! (if you aren't hiring me after this Netflix, you are missing out on one of the writers that are here)
brickleberry was funny
@@petervansan1054 Weak trolling, dude.
I love that the two punching bag characters that you show are both voiced by Chris Parnell.
It's a funny little coincidence
Isn't that the majority of Parnell roles?
@@cdubsb3831 Not Dr Spaceman.
Maybe the true FarBrickle PD was the friends we made along the way.
Except for Wordgirl
My conspiracy theory is that these kind of shows actually ARE for children, they are advertised as being for adults because kids like to watch stuff they're not supposed to
The only reason Epic Movie and Disaster Movie made any money
That’s true for every type of media tbh
@@henrynelson9301 ...I love Criticism-Videos like this here. Hope Jay makes longer ones again.
But until then, i have Madvocate, Hbomberguy and (if we stretch the Defintion beyond just Film-Criticism)
the whole Channel of Some-More-News.
Actually makes sense
Super mario logan really fits that conspiracy theory. They literally sell school supplies and lunch boxes
'What is this, bullshit day?' is such a stupid, lazy line that it makes me laugh ironically everytime
I love when a joke is: *opposite thing happens*
Bonus points for a character stating that the opposite thing just happened
Tell you what, I've been going through all of Frasier and hoo boy does it sometimes get lazy with what I used to call Hypocrite Jokes. I remember Will & Grace suffered a lot from it too.
So many jokes like
Character 1: "I hate McDonalds. Awful food, terrible atmosphere, miserable staff."
Character 2: "Yeah, they're the absolute worst!"
*Pause for dramatic effect*
Character 1: "So, do you fancy a Big Mac?"
Character 2: "OMG yes, I'm starving"
*Canned laughter for 30 straight seconds*
And that just shows how old that form of joke already is. And it hasn't changed in execution, just the words leading up to it. It was tired 30 years ago.
"Wow, I did not see that coming." WE GET IT, THAT'S THE J-
I still find it hilarious for shit like playing league with the bois again.
*lost game, everyone angery af*
"Yall ready to run it back?"
"Of course."
Gets me everytime
I love when the joke is that someone says a naughty word, bonus points if it's someone who isn't supposed to say naughty words.
Its like one of those slow moving conveyer belts with kinda dry sushi on it. Like, the only possible subversion is to perhaps view only one single scene in a vacuum.
For some reason, these shows demo well to those that greenlight projects but goodness theyre vile, joyless wastelands.
Arrested Development was considered to be “too smart” for audiences and had production troubles. But apparently “safe” bets like an endless roast of cardboard cutouts shows what execs thinks we find funny, and what is needed to keep the “jokes” apparent (remember laugh tracks?).
I will say, the first time I played DND I was trapped in a room because I didn't think to open the door. I tried to break the door down with an axe before I tried to use the doorknob
I ran a dungeon with a locked stone door that, whenever you tried to open it said "hehehe that tickles!" And would only open it if you tickled it
The first time I ran it the party immediately ticked the door, the 2nd time I ran it it took 45 mins 🤦🏻♂️
@@asaturner4097 dnd, where the party is either really inept and it hurts or way too competent for what you had planned
To be fair, that's like most DND excursions from my experience. I guess we're all wired to think the DM has set up some kind of trap so instead of going for the doorknob, you've got one guy trying to check around the room for a secret passage, and another trying to bust the door down.
@@soulsearcher9620 Don't forget the first-timer who rolls nat 20s out the ASS, then does the wackiest things they can think of and starts giggling about how fun the game is while everyone else is just sighing or face-palming.
me & a few buddies were stuck in cages - tabaxi party member tried to pick his lock w/ a claw, heard a click, but couldn't get out. i tried my door after several minutes and it opened b/c it was never locked, but we then had to get the tabaxi out who had managed to lock the door when he failed to pick it.
good times.
“I’ve got it!” ‘Gonorrhea, we know’ that was so not-set-up and terrible it made me laugh, like it was an accidental anti-joke.
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My sympathies
Maybe you just thought it was funny
@@All4Randomness1 It's really not that difficult to distinguish between laughing-with and laughing-at
Maybe that’s the point?
@@All4Randomness1 I had to process it before I laughed, so I don’t think so.
42:39 what kills me is that, especially compared to the rest of the montage, the line 'I would never apologise to a woman, and if that bothers you Ethel, well I apologise' actually is a tiny bit more cleverly written, but then they couldn't possibly have an almost functional joke so they have to then immediately have another character go bUt YoU jUsT dId
Or even if he hadn’t said “apologize” twice, just “I would never apologize to a woman, and if that bothers you Ethel, well I’m sorry!”
Still not a good joke, but more competent by a micrometer if nothing else lol
The UA-camr is cutting jokes short to push his hate narrative
@@cyanide1322 go back to making fun of rape victims, tosh
Yeah cause my stupid dumb baby brain would have missed the extremely complex joke
@@cyanide1322found one of the writers lmao
i had no idea that, with this art style, connie was SUPPOSED to be "the ugly one"
I don't think I've loathe an artstyle more than this one. Everything's looks so lazily drawn and janky yet the show has like random very well animated segments. It bothers me to no end
You know, you're actually really right.
"Connie so ugly" Yeah, so is everyone else in this show.
it looks like those calliou puppet app things that were popular in like 2017
Maybe instead of just making another human, and if they wanted a talking bear character, they could have put a giant bear in a park ranger outfit and had it try and pretend to be human? Or make it think it was human and have the whole world treat it as a regular human?
Which honestly, picturing these scenes with a giant bear in place of connie is actually pretty funny.
My biggest takeaway from Jay's comedy analyses is that Archer is one of the few adult cartoons that was made by adults and not teenage boys.
That's a good point; it's like these "adult animated comedies" are using a middle-schooler's or teenager's conceptualization of "adult" humour/language/themes.
That means that if you haven't already, you should watch Archer. The vast majority of the humor is based on its snappy dialog, not just "it's funny because they said something and then the opposite happened"
Archer, Bob's Burgers, Bojack Horseman, Tuca and Bertie, maybe two others. I also stan SUPERJAIL! and Xavier Renegade Angel, because while they do lean into gross-out humor at times it's done by burying the audience in a cavalcade of insane animation, lightning fast wordplay, and characters you just won't see anywhere else: The Warden alone is the answer to the question "What if Willy Wonka could shapeshift and had even less than zero regard for human life?" It's not just the same human-shaped tropes from Family Guy or South Park standing around shouting obscenities.
Alot of "adult" cartoons are actually made for teenage boys.
@@tjenadonn6158 XRA is dope, I like that the hideous visuals make it memorable af, haven't seen anything else that is so deranged yet brilliantly made either in animation or other media.
Its kinda poetic that the clips Jay chose are funnier *because* they lack the context we would've had otherwise
yeah, i'll admit i kind of laughed at the "you're carrying their luggage, dumbass" joke and i really wish it came from _literally anything else_
That's the thing is that there are jokes here that if they were delivered by characters that didn't totally suck, they would be kind of funny.
What gets me isn't that the three shows are all bad, it's that the team somehow did the same crap three times in a row and barely learn anything new. They feel so proud of something that clearly didn't go beyond a first draft.
@Lex Bright Raven I'd be proud of myself if I got paid to make the same low-effort show 3 times
Or how they found a way to print easy money and are just using it
That would be like if Craig McCracken made Wander over Yonder but it wasn't much different from Powerpuff Girls or if Genndy Tartakovsky made Sym-Bionic Titan but it wasn't much different from Dexter's Laboratory.
@@genericname2747 you say that as if making something shit would be a choice for you.
@hosaepalvin9795 what prompted that 😭
I object to Cyril being referred to as "Spy Jerry" and not Jerry being referred to as "Suburban Cyril." He did come first, after all.
He is still hearten comments that’s shocking
Thank you Patrick Bateman
Don’t forget they are both voiced by Chris Parnell
@@HunterPowell-su7kp oh neat
Honestly insane to me how Chris Parnell voiced both of them, man really just became a character actor for animated punching bags.
Also only the real ones remember him as Geoffrey Hoytzman
Fun fact about Maloy - he's voiced by Daniel Tosh, of Tosh.0 fame. He's gone on record to say that Comedy Central would only buy the show if he did the voice for Maloy. Thinking about that, it kinda explains why the character's lines are so awful and why he feels like an afterthought.
Ironically, this was the very thing that made me interested in the show to begin with. I enjoyed the Tosh.0 format, and when I heard the description of Malloy, I thought it had promise.
I was so, so wrong.
That makes sense. Daniel tosh is peak American comedy. Pointlessly Cruel, unfunny, targets the vulnerable and steals the hardworking of others while acting smug and hard working
@@Jane-oz7pp that was exactly the goal of casting him
I was wondering why I was hearing Daniel Tosh say jokes that completely aren't funny.
No way! Just like Dick Cavett who you might not know it was made famous by the Dick Cavett show
The problem with punching bags is that it's not funny if they don't deserve it. I feel nothing but sympathy for Connie.
I mean, she is written as a predator. But that's also a homophobic stereotype, so that's less a reflection on her, and more so on the writers.
@@dreye3215 Yup. Hard to hate a chara cter that only serves as an outlet...
Yup. IMO the only major punching bag charecter that actually works is Klaus from American Dad. Specifically because they characterize him as a genuine POS who deserves it.
Plus Klaus is a well rounded character whos genuinely funny and has character beats outside of punching bag. It isn't the only thing they do with him. Which helps it work better when they do.
I haven’t watched the show so I have to ask… is she actually written as predatory? Or is she written as showing interest in women who aren’t interested in her? Cuz that’s a way straight men are written all the time and no one bats an eyelash
Ha, the character said one thing and then they did another thing of an opposing nature.
Now THAT’S what I call an inner conflict!
That’s gonna be the “somehow...Palpatine returned” of the Chibnall era
Thanks, King Edward I
Keep this in mind when you're out there hammering the scots next time
Hail to the King, baby.
@@trygveplaustrum4634 isn't this the voice line for the dwarven artillery in Kingdom Rush?
I knew an animator who worked on Brickleberry. She said talking with her supervisor on how to improve the "comedic" r*pe scene she was working on as one of the most awkward situations she'd ever been put in. She happily fled after just a few episodes to work on a braindead but non-r*pey kid's show at another studio. (As did her supervisor)
What was the braindead kids' show?
it's funny because...I got nothing.
You can say rape on youtube.
@@TazKoltin I don't disagree on that, but I don't think censoring a single letter from the word is going to mitigate that when it's still incredibly obvious what word it is...
@@TazKoltin lol as if replacing one latter with a star is making it not triggering... F*ck that is so r*etarded, I wanna c*mmit sui*ide.
I don't know how they did it, but somebody somewhere created an entire animation style that immediately tells me a show isn't worth even considering, let alone watching.
It's called flash animation with the terrible and low denominator artstyle you could ever pull up.
@@ammagon4519 classic flash animation is a different story though
They did it years ago with Big Mouth.
Archer and rick and morty are goof
@@chuggaa100 Neither of those shows have this artstyle.
Archers backgrounds alone are a pure work of art.
14 mins into this video and I just realized Brickleberry and Paradise PD aren't the same show.
but their in the same universe which is cursed enough knowledge as it is
They're basically the same show
They might as well be
They're both stroke-inducingly awful, and have near identical art styles (they even have some of the same voice actors, playing the same roles). I don't blame you.
I mean they had a huge cross over arc
Fun fact: In Germany during those specific times of the 1900's, homosexuals were often forced to wear a large upside-down pink triangle on their clothing, particularly on their left side and around where the breast pocket would be. Now if you look very closely at Connie's character design, you'll notice something around that area that doesn't really need to be on her official park ranger uniform...
JFC ://///
no fucking way....
oh my fucking god
Well, only in prison camps and not on their normal clothing, but true
@@cogahanNo, they had to wear it everywhere, it meant they could easily discriminated against in shops and the like. Same with Jews and disabled and Roma and the like iirc.
oh i get it, because shes a l..
(fuck this show)
It's honestly a shame that shows like these constantly get greenlit while actual competent storytellers and animators get thrown out the window without second thought. An entire network to animation has been pretty much killed this year.
The competent animators be like: 38:05
@@keyboardguru4212 That was funnier than the actual entirety of the show.
My theory is that executives are going "Oh, yeah we've seen a few shows like that all get greenlit, sure go right ahead." And never bother looking at how they did.
I hope Love & Anarchy gets a 3rd season..
#RenewFinalSpace
I had that Archer moment where the guy asked if checking his six meant drawing a six-shooter. It was a lifetime ago when I was all of like 15 and my buddy was explaining a few driving tips that some guy he knew had taught him. One of the tips was, as he said, "So, a good thing to remember is to grab the wheel at 10 and 2." Well, I didn't know what the fuck he was talking about at the time, he might as well have been speaking in tongues. But, I didn't let that stop me because I wanted to sound like I was 'in the know', so I responded as if I immediately understood by nodding and said, "Right, 10 fingers, 2 hands, makes sense." He had a hearty laugh and I learned what 10 and 2 actually meant.
That was actually a really good assumption! Since before you can actually hold the wheel AT 10 and 2 you need to hold the wheel WITH 10 and 2. 😅
Okay but that's actually a smart deduction.
Also, I read that last part with Kronks voice for some reason
I think we've all had those moments, where we try to act smarter than we are only for it to quickly backfire on us lol
I seriously spit coffee over my keyboard. Thanks for sharing mate, that's awesome
it definitely doesn't mean to grab the ten inches and two balls lol
I have a feeling that Bear is a mouthpiece for the writers and director’s very Real opinions.
Well he's voiced by Daniel Tosh, who is an executive producer.
@@hannahmonroe3094I hate Daniel tosh.
Kind of like Brian griffin and Seth McFarlane
@@Captain_greybeardatleast brian has some redeming qualities
@@plasma2125 yeah, back in the early seasons, but now he's just a mouthpiece
They wanted Malloy to be Stewie so badly
i think why pam isn't insufferably punchbag-ified is because she's so extremely confident in herself and is never really put down by the jokes and has her other traits such as being involved in criminal undergrounds and a complete badass
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it also helps that pretty much every character in Archer has their moments of both ends of that particular spectrum, makes them feel very human and enhances the traits too- Pam's confidence and triumphant moments stick out more because shes on first impression an easy target for ridicule, Archer's missups have a bigger impact because he's on first impression the one to dish em out
Gintama is another example of hitting that rare balance
It feels like the characters are always on a pretty level playing field in Archer. Brickleberry feels like certain characters always have the upper hand, and if they need things to work differently, they just reverse roles. The "funny" person is always in the dominant role.
I love seeing her go on a full-on Pampage. Archer has a variety of complex and interesting characters. The jokes made are not just one note. Even the ones that are, can be hysterical. My favorite involves a great one liner: He died doing what he loved, getting shot." RIP Brett.
@@xerxBreak With Archer you know if there was an episode where they had to get normal jobs and weren't allowed to do illegal stuff, eg losing their firearms permits, you'd know that Cyril would just do tax accountancy, probably with Pam as his assistant, Ray would go back to interior decoration, and Archer would be the punchline, being forced into sex-work on the street. Sure its predictable after watching however many seasons of Archer, but thats the difference between Sterling and Malloy, Sterling is allowed to suck at something.
These shows are oddly comforting to me. They remind me how low the bar is
I find they illustrate how far the nepotism goes because neither of us are likely to be offered the job of writing them despite the bar for talent being as low as it is.
We need James Cameron right now!
@@FatWalterWhite69 Everyone knows his own youtube?
@@FelixErikson that was auto correct I meant everyone knows you’re on UA-cam
yeah, the fact that they still have any viewership really gives you confidence that anyone can if you just actually make something
I think this is what it looks like when bullies who peaked in high school think they were actually funny when they were bullying people.
@jochen jockel I take it that if I told you I would gesture this entire show and say 'this is how so', that wouldn't be a satisfying response to you? Seriously though-I watched this months ago, so I can't remember too clearly-but I'm pretty sure the explanations in this video cover why I arrived at this conclusion.
I think this is partly true, but I think there's a deeper question that it raises. If this is what it looks like when a bully peaks in high school and still thinks he was funny, how does a guy like that get rewarded with his own TV/Streaming show?
@@mjacton Because when it comes to adult animated comedies, corporate dunderheads will greenlight ANYTHING for a chance to be the ones airing the next big adult animated comedy.
@@jochenjockel This show seems to have been made by creators who carry that highschool mean girl mindset of "OMG, that guy's *[undesirable trait]* ! Everybody point and laugh at how *[undesirable trait] *that guy is!" since they don't seem to have any other kind of joke in their pocket.
I remember when someone being "nerdy" or "slutty" or "ugly" or "fat" was peak humour for my highschool classmates, but now we're adults, we've grown out of it. Most adults don't care how "fat" or "ugly" or "nerdy" someone is, and the ones who do generally are the immature ones stuck with that same mindset as highschoolers, which are often the ones people consider as peaking in highschool because they always seem mentally stuck there in development.
@cristiansirbu1686 I was bullied for being gay. Your point?
The thing that gets me is that if you go into the comments of Brickleberry clips, you'll see loads of comments saying how Brickleberry couldn't be made today, despite having two other copies made exactly the same way, because everything is too PC and woke. The core audience does not care about a good joke or anything clever, they just want crude offensive humor to laugh at because they get off on the idea that shows like these piss people off for being crude and offensive.
Lmfao the irony of them saying that
It's not because other people find it offensive. It's because that's what I find funny. It mimics the type of crude humor that my friends and I make at each others expense over beer.
Comedy is a low art, and highbrow satire is normally just as shallow but gets praised for going only after approved targets.
@@TheRealMarneusCalgar Brickleberry is the Daemonculaba of comedy, and this is why Uriel Ventris is Guilliman's favorite son, Calgar.
@@Midnight-Starfish Guilliman loves all of his sons equally except for Cato Sicarius. Not even the Emperor could love Cato Sicarius.
@@TheRealMarneusCalgar
“the fact it’s crude isn’t what makes it funny. It’s funny because I find crudeness funny”
is what you just said
You know what would have been actually funny?
If in the scene where Meloy shoots Steve, they reversed the roles. Steve shoots Meloy into the disintegration lake, and it's played off as a "Steve is stupid gag" right until the subversion that Steve knows, and just wanted some payback from earlier
Yeah, but that implies they'd have to hurt the creator's -fursona- animal self insert.
@@ammagon4519 lmao yeah. I actually had the idea of approaching people with Malloy tattoos and acting like idk what Brickleberry is and being like “oh cool tattoo I’m a furry too!” to see their reaction
@@funnyvideoguy3216 did you ever see someone with a brickleberry tattoo???
Like seriously
See, _that's_ how you do subversion!
If I were able to try and fix Malloy as a character with one change, I would stop having him be a terrible person to literally everyone all the time and give him a specific vendetta against Steve because he’s the one who killed his parents. That would make the backstory actually make some sense and instead of being a vain attempt at making him likable.
Would also help explain why he's tolerated by the others.
It doesn't make much sense when the character is hateful towards everyone but somehow still gets invited to hang out with the group.
I think an example of Malloy's type of character actually being done well is Pigeon in Mike Tyson Mysteries. Pigeon is basically the same character but he constantly gets shit on in various ways and is acknowledged to be awful by other characters besides Mike. In fact the main joke with Mike and Pigeon is that Mike is just completely oblivious to how shitty of a person (or bird I guess?) Pigeon is. Mike being oblivious to Pigeon's behavior is funny because it's contrasted with other characters constantly recognizing his behavior for what it is.
Sun Yee and Marcus insult back Pigeon constantly and judge him for his shitty behavior. It helps he's also voiced by Norm Macdonald who is alot more talented and charismatic then Daniel Tosh. But mainly I think the fact the show recognizes and punishes Pigeon repeatedly for being an asshole character is what makes him work. As well as just having better written dialogue and jokes in general.
That or make him act more like a kid that's just lashing out because one of the people he's living with killed his parents.
Also recast him with someone who isn’t Daniel Tosh
thought you were talking about Malfoy and was very confused for a minute
The "joke" with Malloy walking in on the wheelchair bound kid would be considerably funnier if, right after going "this is going to be so easy" it cuts to him being the one being thrown out the window.
Or maybe I'm saying that because despite how little I've seen of the little bastard, I just really need him to eat proper crow.
That would've a decent comedy, especially the stereotypes about Asians being better at anything, that even a wheel bound kid could kick someone lmao.
in ep 1 he gets raped by bobby and in another ep he gets raped by a dog
@@JustChains they said crow not cock. But yeah those were not good day's for him.
@@JustChains why am I not surprised that these writers decided rape was the perfect punishment for a character who is an asshole 100% of the time.
@@Xaveze because assault funny to them
The funny thing is that the joke at 23:30 isn't impossible to work with. I figured out a setup that I think might work better. When Steve says they have to figure out how to fake a natural disaster, Ethel then says she has an idea. Malloy then says "What, an idea on how to fake it? I believe you." Although the joke is still a jab at Ethel's promiscuity, it's a lot more subtle so it isn't immediately obviously relying on one of the "funny words" the show loves. Maybe a show like this could actually work with better writing, who knows?
My idea was "not that kind of faking". Pretty much the same, it isnt impossible to work with they just didnt
i always have this kind of attitude when i hear a terrible joke from brickleberry (or cop brickleberry, or space brickleberry pick your poison). i just think, i could come up with a better joke than that in 5 seconds. it's unbelievable
One thing I hate is how lazily written most adult animated shows are. They saw how successful Family Guy was and just decided: "haha swearing and violence and sex jokes = funny."
While Seth is low key a genius
but where ARE those good old fashioned values on which we used to rely?
family guy is not even funny family guy is the worst show i have ever seen right after one piece
@@tekken.universal2343 your statement about family guy would mean more if you hadn't immediately compromised it with your awful taste
Even Seth MacFarlane said that he's sick of Family Guy, but they pay him an ungodly amount of money, so he keeps making it. He also hasn't written the show in years. Last time I watched it was a few years ago to give it one last chance. Six first-run episodes and all of them had a rape joke in them and none of them gave me a single laugh, so I was done. I gave it a chance, but there was nothing creative about any of the episodes. Just the characters doing the same thing they'd been doing for the previous ten years.
I love how Jimmy Jr. Pesto, an incredibly minor side character in bob's burgers, has more character than the most deep characters in all 3 of these shows.
Both those rednecks do, I think thats why they ended up being MC's in the spin-off
i mean incredibly minor is a bit of an overstatement, he's very important to tina's whole character
@@bailoutexistsYeah but by minor I think they mean that without jimmy jr the show is still mostly complete and could still go on, he'd be missed but it wouldn't really effect the show yet they still give him depth and respect the characters character traita
@@bailoutexists Forgot about this but what I meant is that if Jimmy Jr never existed and was just replaced with some other boy there wouldn't be much lost and it wouldn't really effect Tina's character. While a more important side character like Teddy would actually leave a hole in the show that pretty much no other character could fill if he was never added. Jimmy Jr is important to Tinas character but he's not really important because of him, he's important because of what he means to Tina.
I think the reason the clown stuff is funnier is because the "jokes" are improvised. He had to come up with those insults on the fly about people he just met instead of transparently manufacturing characters for that purpose.
That seems to be implying that Brickleberry scripts went through more than one draft before being animated.
It's already depressing enough to imagine them putting put no effort into these shows and still getting aired. I don't want to have to imagine that any of their jokes actually went through a review process and the writers actually stand behind their material.
*see overweight unattractive chick*
"what is this, fat ugly chick day?"
Yeah... "improvised jokes on the fly"
Probably too him a lot of brain power to come-up with such intricate and mind-pleasing zingers...
Man, if he's just said 'Mario Mario', it would've been a reference AND a jab at his stupidity. Missed opportunity.
your critiques on 'adult' western animated comedies are just like... cathartic? we've all been lamenting it for ages, but somebody is finally putting it all into words. looking forward to part 2 :+)
Cathartic indeed! Knowing this will be a 3 parter makes me excited.
Not one thing he said hasn’t been said by another UA-camr please calm tf down
@@VampiricBard the realistic response? It wasn’t 🗿 imo
I thought this kind of thing was funny at like 13 but by 16 I was already pretty over it
American writers have the mentality of 5 year olds
You know, Jay, you don't always have to torture yourself with awful shows. You can just make a video on how good Archer is, and we'll watch it. I promise.
Seconded, I'd love a video of Jay going over what makes Archer good.
Ngl I’d watch that. Never really minded Archer before. Heard about it in passing, but I never really had the idea to watch it. But now I do thanks to Jay’s recommendations. I’d totally watch a video by him going over the characters and how good the show is.
@@Cheetahgirl_Studios Sealab 2021, Frisky Dingo, everything from the studio that does Archer has been great. 70/30 was their original name but it might have changed
Yeah this channel has actually made me want to watch Archer
Don't watch the last seasons.
I just want to take the time to appreciate that you set up Kevin from the beginning of the video by calling Steve "Kevin" and acting like you didn't know why you said that, only to suddenly bring Kevin up at the very end of the video. It genuinely made that transition so much smoother than it had any right to be.
I loved that too tbh
Set-up and payoff. A better attempt at comedy than either of the shows.
That transition into paradise PD was so smooth it genuinely had me double taking and rewinding the video several times to catch the exact moment it happened.
The changes between the art style of Archer and Brickleberry is giving me whiplash
20:17
Jay casually mentioning the fact that Brickleberry has at least 3 seasons felt like swimming, looking down and seeing a shark speeding towards me.
Paradise P.D. is going to have a season 4
@@rootfish2671 Why must you turn this day to one of mourning?
@@sapheiron At least it's going to be the last season
Seeing the worst cartoons in existence have a bunch of seasons while masterpieces of cartoons like final space, infinity train, and the owl house all getting cut makes my fucking blood boil
@@rootfish2671 Why would you express gratitude that a specific thing isn't going to happen?
Do you not understand how these shows work?
I genuinely found that family joke about Meg being hit with a baseball bat funny. The timing is good.
The delayed timing is the joke, it's what makes it funny for me too. You expect Peter to hit Meg, then poorly pretend it was an accident because he's a jerk. Instead, he intentionally waits long enough to show it wasn't an accident, but then sounds genuinely concerned. It pays off on your knowledge of the character while still subverting your expectations.
I agree I bust out laughing at that joke.
Yeah i fuckin hate family guy but some of the jokes like one in every 5000 make me laugh ngl
Yeah not gonna cap, I hate the Meg bashing in family guy. But that baseball bat scene was genuinely pretty good. I think it's the fact that Peter waited for Meg to finish speaking before hitting her, then apologizing. I feel like that joke alone by itself is a good subvert of expectations.
@@bobtheball5384 exactly
Oh my god, getting 20 mins into the video and then hearing the phrase season 3 was such a sucker punch
Probably being overly sensitive here but the “jokes” involving Connie make my skin crawl. Her characterization of being a predatory, ugly “she-beast” is *exactly* what my middle school bullies would constantly use to make my life a living hell. This show literally feels like what would happen if a bully got a writing job, and that alone should be a sign that it won’t hold up as a comedy at all.
It's comedy.......they sh** on everyone...welcome to planet earth
@@Cazz8203thats not the deffinition of comedy
@@Evil_Incorporate didn't realize there was an exact equation/definition to comedy....I thought it was subjective.....an art form....but I guess one shouldn't dare color outside the lines, right?
@@Cazz8203 shitting on stuff isnt comedy. Your definition of comedy isnt artistic or whatever woke bullshit you think it is.
White trash people thinking theyre Rick sanchez because they speak their minds is infuriating. Its not 1984 you can say whatever you want. But dont expect everyone to aplaud with praise or get surprised by others shitting back at you.
@@Cazz8203comedy being subjective doesn't mean that it has no definition or that aspects of it aren't objective. like, flavour is also subjective but some things objectively taste like sh*t.
"cOmEdY iS sUbJeCtIvE" is such a tired excuse made by lazy people who have no actual response to valid criticism. it's the "tHaT's JuSt My OpInIoN" of comedic discussion. you're just admitting that you're being willfully ignorant.
also you sure love using ellipsis huh? lmao
I can't wait for parts 2 and 3 to come out perfectly fine with absolutely zero problems
What do you know? Tell us your secrets
Deep cut. Wonder how many even saw the OG upload.
@@audiosurfarchive I saw it, clicked on it and it must have been the moment he made it private.
@@audiosurfarchive I watched it in full, then I shared it and the link was invalid.
@@8Dataman8 was it at all different other than the one obviously different segment
Each one of these videos makes it painfully obvious how much Jay wants to make a 5 hour long video about Archer
Clearly they do, and we'll watch it
He should, I used to love that show and woud dig in to a vid like that like there was no tomorrow
@@IronFreakV frisky dingo is better than Archer
The thing about that 'unless he buys you two drinks' joke is that, if that's where the joke *ended*, it would actually be half-decent, but they have to drag it out into something utterly obnoxious.
Similarly the joke at 20:30 would've been better if the line was something like "The one who gets around a lot knows about faking something. Go figure" instead of being like "LoL gOnOrRhEa"
There is a key difference between shows for adults and shows that are merely inappropriate for children. These shows highlight it.
*Brickleberry has its own wiki.*
*Either someone got paid to make it, OR SOMEONE WASTED HOURS OF THEIR LIFE TO MAKE IT.*
Honestly, I don't know which would be more depressing.
Cataloguing existence is something I respect.
Even if I don'trespect the thing that gets catalogued
@@soulsearcher9620 "Yeah, you know me! I'm a sucker for existence!"
@@charmandyorton006 Both of these are beautiful comments, but I think I might use yours on a weekly basis now!
There are wiki pages for some much weird things that it’s insane
I think its generally fine for someone to wanna make a wiki about whatever it is that they like, i've contributed to wikis based on media i like so why not?
The problem is though that the Brickleberry wiki isn't just a wiki about Brickleberry, it's also racist for some fucking reason
The worst part about this show being mean spirited is not that mean spirited humor is bad. It's that it is mean spirited without leading to anything funny.
None of the lines really lead to anything funny. I find their funniness entirely in the moment. :)
Family Guy has toilet humor mixed with intelgent humor and satire Brickleberry is just toilet humor.
the issue with meanspirited comedy in adult animation imo is mainly
1. it's freaking EVERYWHERE nowadays to the point smiling friends having its characters actually be friends is surprising
and 2. it's SUPER easy to screw up. there's a reason an episode being meanspirited is a common complaint in the cartoon community, even if you think it's overused.
The reason it doesn't lead to anything funny is because none of the characters it's used against particularly deserve it. It's the same with Family Guy honestly, the concept of punching bag characters aren't funny. It only works if you actively dislike the character for some reason, and being ugly isn't enough for someone with even two braincells to rub together.
@@Doc_Fun I strongly disagree with that. Sometimes life is unfair. Characters don't need to deserve suffering for it to be funny.
That bit with the clown made me realize why I love something like Eric Andre's street gags. Whenever he does something in public, he's usually the butt of the joke. He is usually doing something embarrassing in public, he is doing something stupid to get the public's reactions. And the joke not only is how the public reacts to it, but whatever stupid thing he has up his sleeve to propel the bit. It isn't just "Hi random person, you have mockable attribute deemed so by me, receive ridicule. Also I'm a clown I guess."
Not to mention his gags are genuinely creative. I can't see these guys dressing up in a Froot Loops outfit and saying "my body is now your communion"
If it was actual random, unprompted people that clown was insulting, I'm surprised he never accidentally fucked with the wrong person and got thumbs jammed in his eye sockets or something.
I am the octopus. I am the octopus.
@@YEs69th420 The octopus gag is possibly one of the funniest fucking things I’ve ever witnessed. I will never get over those midgets lmao
@@GetTheFO god ikr? all of the costume gags are great, but if i saw the octopus in person I'd probably fucking collapse
Most of the comments in defense of Brickleberry are like, “Wow, what a snowflake”. Not once is he offended by a joke. I mean, he's offended by how unfunny they are, but that's not what they meant. Not liking repetitive and predictable jokes by 2d characters doesn't make you a snowflake, it makes you a reasonable human being.
Consider the following, Brickleberry actually is funny and you’re just ignorant and picky
The jokes in Brickleberry are funny, not burdened by the weight of the apparent “high style”, which, in fact, has the same structure, but closed by a bunch of taboo walls. Well, you just have bad humor.
@@Николай-ж8щ1у When I can predict a joke before it happens damn near every goddamn time, a joke that has been told a million times in funnier shows, I'm sorry if I just don't find the humor in it anymore.
They don't defy expectation, they don't make jokes that push the envelope, and they don't bother with a story structure that is any way compelling. They don't even bother writing characters that are likeable or likably despicable.
The only reason I would ever put this on is to fill dead air, and even then, I would pick a show that wasn't so offensively mediocre.
It's a by the numbers, soulless, corporate nightmare that was produced by looking at the adult animation industry and picking all the safest and 'meh' examples to base their show off of.
South Park, Family Guy, The Cleveland Show, Smiling Friends, American Dad, Futurama, The Boondocks, Bob's Burgers, these shows range from decent to terrible, to incredible at times, but they all have one thing in common. I have actually laughed while watching them. Something that brickleberry has never accomplished.
TL;DR: Brickleberry bad and boring and stupid and dumb and boring.
@@Николай-ж8щ1у what
Pam is my favorite character on Archer. I especially like how she's legitimately become Sterling's best and honestly only real friend.
Mine, too, especially the early seasons. Malory, too.
I fucking love her she becomes such a sweet teddy bear of a character in the later seasons lol
(+ I like that she's the only person without combat training who can still kick the shit out of people)
@@thechosenjuan8776 the kidnapping arc is my favorite behind Krieger shenanigans, the twist that Pam is a total badass while still keeping her negative traits was a real twist but loyal to the character.
Example:
Kills a man bare knuckle boxing
"Sorry about your homie, homies"
honestly that joke of the bear shooting Steve would have been really funny to me if he shot them and the episode instantly ended with no more dialogue
I swear these shows look more and more like they were made in GoAnimate every time💀
lol.
Even that‘s an insult to goanimators.
Hell, IT-Saac Studios can make better goanimate videos than this pile of trash show.
For real 💀 they use the ugliest rigging possible
To call Brickleberry garbage would be offensive to garbage
To refer to brickleberry as anything would be offensive towards the concept of references
I think there’s something to be said for the fact that the ASDF French dog joke still made me laugh in the context of THIS VIDEO.
And the "ball man" joke
Weuf
wief
Ouef
That two second Simpsons joke about the taxes make me laugh more than anything I saw in BB
Another joke with that same premise is from a mini web series called Zach and make made by piemations. It’s also funny especially since the landlord was genuinely like “you paid 8 months ago, you’re all set sorry about that”
The most frustrating thing about the lake bit is that they’re not actually a continent away from a decent joke.
‘I wonder if it cures b___h’ and shoving someone in could be kind of funny if two things happened:
1) Ethel was actually being nasty in that scene. But as it is the first thing she does is express concern for Connie and, from these clips, seems to be the only character who ever does so. She’s not acting in a way, and I don’t think it’s established in her character that she’s especially, deserving of that insult.
2) Coming out of the lake prompted her to act more nicely, implying that it might ACTUALLY have caused a personality shift, only to have it be subverted. You could even incorporate the shotgun cut-off by having her shoot Malloy into the lake, making a kind of hard cut from ‘oh is she different’ to ‘nope, still Ethel’ by her taking lethal vengeance, while also acting as Malloy receiving his comeuppance.
Is that a good joke? No, it’s something that your friends would pull at a D&D table in total improv, not professional writer or writers with weeks to prepare their material. But it’s at least conceptually _a joke._
Watching this video I literally came up with a better joke than the writers did. At 23:33, when Ethel says "I've got it" in response to another character asking whether they could fake a tornado, Malloy could've just said something along the lines of "I bet you've got a lot of experience with faking it". Simple, still pokes fun at Ethel's promiscuity, but it's a lot less lazy and actually ties into the scene. Of course, it still has the problem of not being a particularly good joke, but that's not something I can fix.
Genuinely I thought that was where the joke was going, and yes, it would be a bit predictable, but I actually laughed in anticipation because at least it was a joke. What they wrote instead was just a non sequitur, which I suppose can be funny, but Malloy's delivery really doesn't carry it
I love "punching bag" characters when a show has more than one and when they do more than just get hurt. It's even better when a point is being made about the punching, like Dib Membrane being bullied because humanity is resistant to new ideas. We're on _his_ side. But it's still funny because he's fictional.
Jerry/ Gary/ Terry from Parks and Rec is on of my favourite examples of a punching bag character because 1, the characters are barely ever justified in their treatment of him and 2, outside of his job he has the most perfect possible life anyone could ask for
I think Zoidberg was a pretty good punching bag character because he had actual depth and it was established in canon that he doesn't entirely deserve it (source: he's literally the only being on earth that makes it onto robot Santa's nice list)
I love how you talked about your profile pic's character.
I remember a show where the punching bag character straight up killed himself, I forget the show though
@@AlliedX Can you describe the character?
being an ugly fatass myself, and someone who had been called "this thing" for the majority of my life, i genuinely appreciate how much time and energy you've put into tearing this one "joke" type down. it's heartwarming, and also you are hilarious. almost makes me want to watch archer, too.
Hope you'd get "used to it" bro, what I mean by that is that these "jokes" they call you would immediately just become boring and repetitive rather than insulting. Not really a good advice, but hope it helps.
Sincerely, some guy who's a bit ugly fatgss as well
@@ammagon4519 shit advice bro, 1. i am 27 so this had been going on for years, 2. expecting people to just get used to being berated non stop is just plain wrong, and 3. i actually have more than one suicide attempt under my belt due to always being "that thing", "that ugly one lol" in school and hearing people talk shit about me behind my back as i am simply walking down the street. plus i did not go to therapy for years just to "get used to it". that's like telling a gay person (which also applies to me) to just "get used to" all the hate they experience.
plus regularly being discriminated against at the doctor's office due to being fat is also not something one should "get used to". ever. i am now dead inside enough to not be afraid to be verbally, or even physically, abusive in return, but "getting used to it" literally is the worst advice possible in this scenario.
@@birdmaskguy sorry man
I know you've probably heard it a million times, and I'm sorry if I sound like a broken record, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I'm sure you are a handsome dude. I'm sure, if you'd ever want to or want to, that you'll find someone out there for you one day too that thinks the same. I also am of the mindset that everyone has a style, that if they find it, makes the look good. Sorry bout that I just don't like it when people put themselves down. TL;DR I bet you are gorgeous in your own way
Growing up being teased and mocked for my body (fat), I feel that. Being gay as well also hit different watching this show. 😑
the thing I liked about smiling friends was just how nice everyone was to each other. Sure they had disagreements and could be a little rude sometimes but the main cast were genuinely friends with each other
I'm so sick of shows where the characters are constantly being peices of shit to each other
Even when they argue, like in the Christmas episode, or the Brazil special, it’s still grounded and hilariously realistic
@@henrynelson9301
The Christmas episode you can even sympathize with both Pim and Charlie when they've already built up to their personalities. Their fight seemed like a genuine problem between friends, being overtly pessimistic and being overtly optimistic.
Yeah same, honestly. It was a breath of fresh air and made for comedy I haven't seen a million times before in other shows, so I could actually be surprised by stuff and find it funny
The joke at the end of frowning friends is one of the best in the series for me
They're so good at writing small meaningless but funny arguments between characters
Also the "get out of me head" guy will never not be funny to me
Somes jokes does the "everyone is a jerk" thing well, like Bojack-Horseman
But that only work because beside Bojack no-one is a jerk and mostly find each-others unpleasant for no-reasons, every characters is complexe and has layers of personnalities
Princess-Caroline isn't a jerk to peoples because that's "funny, she's mostly a jerk to others because she's a workaholic who doesn't have time to be nice to peoples, she has to be assertive and immediately get what she want from peoples that are irrelevant to her work.
Diana isn't just a boring goody-two-shoes who constantly bring down anyone she's judging not to her standards as a human-being, she's a deeply insecure woman who doesn't even know what she want from life in the first place, and is projecting the idealized standards she has on everyone and everything else in her life.
And above theses very human traits that mostly explain why characters are unpleasants,
They're not ALWAYS in total botch-mode.
Even Bojack, the king of assholes himself, can show empathy and decency once in a while.
Writing unjustified assholes being assholes to each-others isn't funny,
Writing characters who's flaws clashes for understandable reasons is.
Oh please dude ASDF movie is fine, but you are so fucking full of shit here. You’re actually acting like it’s this genius thing where it’s minimal “by design” and it couldn’t possibly work any other way. He has a mustache Bc that’s all you need to know huh? Then the kid doesn’t have anything to distinguish him for some reason, probably bc the designs are simple for two reasons. It’s appealing, and it’s EASY. Easier to draw and easier to animate. It’s what most animated videos online were at the time, stick figures doing random shit. It is so god damn corny and pseudo intellectual to look at one of the COUNTLESS stick figure movie type things that has a blank background with the occasional clouds or something (again because it’s EASY) and act like it’s some minimal masterpiece. They didn’t draw clouds Bc that “perspective shot” Is all that mattered it’s because it’s easier to draw some clouds then an entire outside background.
Mark "too good for Lego Batman 2 & 3" Hamill was in Brickleberry?
Seeing Daniel Tosh's name attached to this as the show's obvious attempt at a mascot/breakout character makes everything fall into place.
What do you mean by that?
@@chee.rah.monurB I mean he's an unfunny, uncreative hack who seems to think he's much funnier and much more creative than he actually is. The fact that he was also an executive producer on the show is just a real 'oh, well, of course he is' moment.
@@Bi0mega100% correct. Tosh is not funny
I think the lake joke would have been funnier if Malloy did the joke FIRST. As in before anyone other than the boss knew the lake could heal.
"Malloy! How did you know the lake heals people?!"
"The lake what?!"
Holy fuck ur right, that would have been funny
I really hate the fact that random UA-cam comments can make a funnier more complete joke than the professional writers who were paid to have this crap air on TV
Yeah, joke was right there and they were too incompetent to make it. Kind of sums up all their shows
Here's another joke that was right in their faces
"What is your name?"
"Uh...Mario?"
"Mario what?"
"...Mario?"
The Mario Brothers don't have a canonical last name, but it's been a joke for a long time that their last name is Mario (why are they called the Mario Brothers if their last name isn't Mario?) Ffs the first Mario movie, which is AWFUL on so many levels, nailed this joke. EVEN IF no one got the Nintendo reference, there's still the joke of "he can't think on his feet".
I hate the fact that Ethel is genuinely a likable character because of how much they slut shame her
As someone who saw the show, nah, the only person you really feel bad for is Connie
@@jikkybytt Because you endured all her hardships yourself.
Maybe I'm sleep deprived but the First Name 'Mario' Last Name 'Brothers' joke actually popped me. The delivery was good, but unfortunately much like delivering a pizza to a trailer currently being thrown about the air by a tornado, it doesn't make the surrounding circumstances much better even if by some miracle you manage to pull it off every once in a while
To me, here’s how I’d fix the joke:
Setup: Make the mobsters italian, and include a scene earlier where Steve is playing on a Gameboy or something earlier in the episode.
Buildup: When the mafia confronts Steve, we see him struggling to give them a fake name, before suddenly blurting out “MY NAME IS MARIO!”.
Then i’d Follow it up with him realizing how stupid his mistake was, and desperately trying to fix it by adding “BROTHER…son…” as a last name.
The mafia then lean in, and say “No kidding… my COUSIN is named Mario Brotherson! Ah, you are going to fit in perfectly around here my friend!”
Cut to Steve being relieved, as Denzel exclaims “say WHAT now!?” and Steve responds more confidently with “Oh don’t mind my brother Luigi… he’s just jealous of being second banana, you know how brothers are…”
And the mafia ends with “I certainly do my friend, that’s just how it rolls in the family business am I right?”
@@sirGuy1995 that sounds very funny dude.
🤖
i feel like that joke could really land in a better show. i can picture a character like troy from community delivering it
you actually made that joke work lmao good job @@sirGuy1995
The fact that they had Tom Kenny say “time for dingaling tug-tug” in a stereotypical accent is astounding
it's genuinely baffling to me that there exist professional writers who would put that line in a product meant for public consumption
I will not understand how Tom Kenny willingly sign up for these series by these idiots
The way you cut off the jokes actually made them more funny
It physically pains me to know that both Tom Kenny AND Mark Hamill voiced in this show
:(
I think I even heard John DiMaggio too as one of the FDA guys.
Mark Hamill???
tom kenny doesnt say 'no' to anything. tom kenny start saying 'no' to roles challenge you're better than this. 😂
Well sometimes a paycheck is a paycheck.
The pink impact font “something bad happened” running joke is funny every fucking time
A rare example of an actually funny and subversive implementation of the "says a thing but the opposite thing happens" trope can be found in The Last Airbender, when Toph is taken prisoner. Katara expresses genuine concern for Toph, which is completely in line with her character, allowing the scene to transition to Toph, who has been introduced recently enough that her outburst takes you by surprise and is genuinely entertaining.
Are you talking about the joke that was followed up with “but I wasn’t smiling”?
I think that was Toph's mom, Mrs. Beifong. When she says how Toph must be so scared, then it transitions to Toph saying to let her out of the cage so she can smack the grin off of the wrestling owner's face, and then he says he's not smiling.
42:06 I don't even care about the context, but cutting to Connie with a bag on her head unexplained is funnier than the rest of the scene.
The joke at 42:43 got a pretty good chuckle out of me, the delivery and the pacing was great. But having Connie reply killed the joke
Like when anime characters explain their moves?
@@funnyvideoguy3216 hmm yeah that's a rather good comparison
Honestly that’s one thing I’ve noticed about these bad animated “comedies” is that they tend to over explain or over do the joke even when it was already obvious. A similar example I can think of was in paradise PD when a mafia boss was pointed out as sounding like the count on Sesame Street and he reply’s with how that’s ridiculous while sounding like the count which honestly would’ve been funny
but then they double down by making him count with thunder in the background as if we didn’t already get it and they preside to make him do that in every other scene he’s in and it just becomes annoying and stupid.
@@Alexander-hi8bo YES EXACTLY!!!
What's funny is that The Simpsons had an almost identical line back in the late 90's where Homer went "I never apologise.. I'm sorry, but that's just the way I am".
Jay's setup for part two was genuinely brilliant. It caught me off guard. I was listening to it in the background as I tend to with video essays, and I heard him say Kevin and not correct himself, and ending the segment with "wait who tf are any of these characters" is just so well timed and written.
He just keeps going on with the gag, dissecting the scene as if nothing's wrong until suddenly he calls attention to it and ends the video lmao. Now _that's_ comedy.
(Caption) Alzheimers
You know, I'm terrible at this. Every time Jay said, guess what this punchline is going to be, my answer was way funnier than what actually happened.
Same
Same, man.
Peter's delay in hitting Meg with that baseball bat will always have me. 💀
Really? I don't find it very funny at all.
-underage
It's not a good joke, but it's at least recognizable as a joke
@@WobblesandBean Good for you.
Meg, you startled me!😢
I love how these shows try their best to be offensive without ever even risking anything
The South Park effect
@@godknows8670 how dumb are you lmao? South Park is probably the worst example you could’ve chosen.
Part One? Oh shit strap in fellas, we're in for the LONG haul.
Better be 3 or more, for some good long
@@soulsearcher9620 There's one part for each show
20:20 jesus christ as a woman who feels like a Connie that's mortifying. The thought that I could be opening myself up to that kind of intimate interaction and then for a curtain to be lifted and a group of people with cameras telling me I'm ugly is absolutely gut wrenching. That is a fear that I know many other people have. The fear that everything in your life is fake and the people around you are waiting for you to believe them so they can rip that rug out from under you and call you stupid for ever believing someone could ever love you like that.
That scene struck me as particularly vile as well. I've experienced bullying for most of my childhood so fear of intimacy has become kind of engrained into me.
I guess the argument for the show is ""well its shock comedy its supposed 2 have horrible things happening"" but like, I feel like I need to know what mental processes were involved into thinking this was a remotely good idea.
I'm not even unhappy with my physical appearance, and this is a huge fear for me
Having this happen to the punching bag character tells me everything I need to know about the integrity of the creators.
@@charmandyorton006 I wouldn’t be surprised if they were really pathetic bullies in their childhood, or that their moms let them watch rated r movies when they were kids
I relate. Im neurodivergent and Ive had so many instances were i genuinely thought someone wanted to talk and be friends with me, but then i look back and see their friends watching and they all start giggling.
A character like Malloy makes so Littles sense because he's so obviously an attempt at a stewie from family guy... While ALSO making him a Brian.
Like that makes no sense because Bryan is supposed to be more rational to point out stupid stuff, while stewie is malicious in his actions despite being a baby.
Combining them just makes an asshole that the show pretends is the rational one just because he dunks on the stupid annoying characters. Stewie rarely receives consequences because he's a baby, and Malloy has the same thing going for him because he's Woody's pet.
It makes me believe that Malloy is some sort of self insert for insults they want to tell people in their real lives but they can't because they're too cowardly to go back to the clown shenanigans.
They take the absurdity away from making him a talking animal character by making him look so fucking ugly to the point that until this video, I couldn't tell what animal he was. He also doesn't even act like an animal, he has a phone and eats human food and walks on two legs. Everyone talks to him and he's mean to all of them for no reason (besides Steve). He just seems like a real damn jerk, not a fun reasonable character like Bryan or a funny absurd character like Stewie. Also, Bryan's role of voice of reason is usually filled by Denzel anyways. So Malloy does nothing funny or absurd, is mean to everyone, and is a bear cub I guess. I really don't like this thing
I love the part where he says "brickleberry" and brickled all over the place
I liked that part, but imo the best scene was when he said "It's Brickleberry time"
its bricklin time
Truly the show of all time
This joke was never funny
@@jabbahaus3352 just like the show!
Part one? Jay is clearly trying to avoid being called a longman by breaking it up into parts
I thought they were still in progress?
Like double-check and such?
It's learning
Would you sign my petition to help end hate against longman content?
COWARD.
LET THEM BE LOOOONG
@@StoutShako um
DOCTOR WHO?
XD
I feel like an example of a good character who does what Maloy is trying to do is Bender from Futurama. I can totally see him shooting someone because he knows they'll be healed or being happy that someone just got shot in front of him but then at the same time he's a complex character who does way more than just be an asshole to everyone all the time
I agree! I think Bender is the gold standard for writing a comic relief character. While he’s a total jerk that constantly dunks on the other characters, they also do a great job exploring what makes him tick. There’s more to the joke than just ‘haha he’s a robot that drinks and swears’, they also like to explore how he’s a robot that also struggled immensely with existentialism. And the fact that he’s a robot actually is integral to his character and how he’s written. Malloy could literally be ANYTHING and there would be no change in how he’s written. But with Bender, they explain that he drinks so much because it’s basically fuel to him as a robot, or will make jokes about him being attracted to appliances or other machines because of the fact he’s also a machine.
Not to mention, Bender actually cares for his friends even if he's a jerk
I think Roger from American Dad! Is another good example. While he has done shitty things to people before (and even his family) he doesn't go out of his way to hurt them if he genuinely likes them. For example while he loves his family the only times he's ever gone out of his way to do something mean to them is if they did something to him first (even if it's really petty). He once tried to kill Steve for making him look like a fool in a children's book but once he actually thought he succeeded he immediately regrets it and tries to save him with nothing but a spoon. (Though he did end up getting his revenge at the end of the episode as a last minute gag). Plus it's revealed in one episode that the reason he's such a jerk is because it's sort of like his life force, if he isn't a jerk he'll slowly die a horrible death but it doesn't stop him from being nice when he genuinely wants to.
I'll give you another one: Church from Red vs. Blue.
He's the straight man throughout the show, and while arguably the least skilled in many fields, he is the most competent of not only his team but most of the larger ensemble. He's rude, impatient, and most defined by his irritability, sometimes will overreact to otherwise inoffensive behavior and/or minor inconveniences. However, like I said, he's otherwise very responsible, often the only one getting anything done, despite how ill-equipped he is and the lack of his colleagues' willingness (if not ability) to help him is a sympathetic justification for his endless frustrations. He might be the only character grounded enough in his specific character traits for the audience to find relatable. We've all been this guy at least once in our lives.
Church is mean because of the context of the setting.
Malloy is mean because the writers just decided for to him to be that.
Also Malloy just seems to hate everyone for no reason. From what I've seen in the video he just straight up slut shames Ethal even though she never did anything to him? If anything she's the nicest (and probably the most competent) out of all of them so why does he just seem to target her? Then there's the fact he shoots Steve when he's pissed at Woody for killing a ton of people?! He's meant to be a Stewie Griffin Clone but not even he was a heartless psychopath!!
I thought I was bad at writing comedy but I'm glad to learn that I've got hope if stuff like this exists lol
No you're still bad at writing comedy
Brickleberry is hilarious, piss off
My condolences. get well soon.@@fgggg4337
@@fgggg4337 stop dickriding ✋️
It's amazing that shows can make family guy animation look highly meticulous
The worst part is that it would be so easy to turn the wheelchair kid into an actual joke, like...
Just have the kid pull up an assault rifle after Malloy says it'll be easy.
Or his chair unfolds into a giant robot for some reason;
Then you could follow with the sounds of a fistfight, and the wheelchair kid flying out the window, with malloy smugly saying “Yep... easy!”
A double twist of sorts
ikr, the joke was RIGHT THERE and they still managed to fuck it up
43:15 I laughed at this scene, not because the joke was funny, but actually because of how you clipped it together, Kevin blowing up and then it going to the next scene gave me a good chuckle
Yeah, apparently things are significantly funnier when perfectly cut.
* honestly
@@bloodood406 That goes the same for a lot of the jokes and cutaway gags in Family Guy.
@@bloodood406you know the most important part of comedy?
timing
(this joke works better when said out loud oops)
W glaze
22:40 I feel like this joke could've worked if Mallow was more confused than cocky. Like "Wait, I thought you were a lesbian" "I was rammed in a car wreck, Mallow" "Ah shit, my B."
I think they are trying to make Malloy into a Cartman-like villain character, but the thing with Cartman is that he usually gets his comeuppance in the episode. So in the miracle lake episode Cartman would try to sell it but once the lake goes bad and he would end up naked and humiliated. If every episode ended like Scott Tenorman must die and Cartman won (and even then he gets humiliated in that episode) the character would be obnoxious and unlikable.
The Scott Tenorman episode would also lose some of its power, since it subverted expectations about Cartman's plan failing. The writing in these other shows isn't nearly as well-crafted as early South Park for this reason imo
and at least with Cartman there is crazy character development coupled with backstory that explains why he is the way he is, and how he's become the psycho he is. Malloy is just a dickhead
@@akabaneolivia9550Yup, that was the first time Cartman ever actually ended up on top.
Yeah, it’s literally the Stem Cells episode.
It's crazy how they made the same show three times, and they're each just as equally bad as each other.
the creators are idiots
Each clone is a bit worse though.
@@KäptnKrückschwank I haven’t seen the new one but I’m gonna assume it’s the worst
@@joemancini9969 You mean Farzar? In the very first minute you might think it’s the cooles sh1t ever, until you begin to recognize the art style and the first dick „joke“ comes up and the sudden realization hits you that it‘s ONE OF *THOSE* ☠️ oh my god please TURN IT OFF aarrgh
Do you know how crazy that is, making 3 shows that are this bad.
I suppose that in a way, Netflix is the punching bag character to Jay Exci.
There's no way netflix will make any more bad content for jay to criticize though!
the difference between sorting by top comments and sorting by newest first is STAGGERING
You know what's really sad. They got a director and voice actor from Futurama to do this show.
They got MARK HAMILL
@@manjackson2772 He loves doing shit shows nowadays.
@@mbob4337 don't insult What we do in the Shadows like that you monster
@@kin-3877 Tan tell me who you are.
@@manjackson2772 to be fair he also showed up in Rhapsody Street Kids...
As a shorthand, if a punching-bag character is voiced by Chris Parnell, odds are they're well executed
I remember seeing the previews for Brickleberry and thinking, "oh, a group of wacky park rangers at a third-rate national park. That's a great set-up for a lot of different jokes." I made it one and a quarter episodes. And I only watched a quarter of the second one because sometimes the first episode of a show isn't very good because it's needed to set up the characters and premise. But by about eight minutes into the second episode, I knew it wasn't getting any better.
Connie is unironically my favorite character (from what I have seen) and I feel really bad for her but that's what the creators want.
shes slightly lovable! if she wasnt predatory
Deadass Connie was my favorite
Youll be relieved to learn shes not real
"some offense" "some taken" that line is genius
Malloy’s lines give me war-like flashbacks to being bullied in middle school.
This entire show gives me flashbacks to highschool lmao
I read Malloy as Mallory at first and thought you were talking about Archer's mom. She's an asshole but a legitimately funny one.
I think the thing that makes _Archer_ work is that despite the characters saying mean stuff to each other constantly they're all the butt of the joke at least sometimes. That helps the show seems more like friends joking with one another than people who are just mean assholes.
@@BiggieTrismegistus Also a good amount of the jokes are, out of universe, double edged swords. Half of the jokes that come out of Archer's mouth are from the writers at his expense.