Short Dart Magazines Compared (ft. New Angled Worker Talon Mags)
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- Опубліковано 11 лип 2024
- We've gotten many emails asking about comparing the differences and compatibilities between different short (or half-length) dart magazines and magwell adapters. Here I go through all major mag types: from Jet Katanas to Worker Talon mags. And I give a brief overview of mag compatibility: from Dart Zone -- and their Walmart-exclusive Adventure Force Pro line, to custom 3D-printed engineering marvels like the Talon Claw.
Stay tuned, because there's a future video in the works solely on short dart types and much, much more content in the coming weeks!
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-Though the Talon Mags have become the community favorite, the Adventure Force Nexus Pro is also compatible with Jet Katana Magazines (thanks to the comments for pointing it out!).
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0:00 Opening & Introduction
1:00 A Brief Overview of Short Dart types
2:42 Jet Katana Mags
3:58 Worker Straight Talon Mags
4:37 Worker Curved Talon Mags
5:16 Worker Angled Talon Mags
6:05 Extra-Edge Straight Talon Extenders
6:31 Dart Zone Pro & Adventure Force Pro Mag Compatibility
7:54 Short Dart Mag Adapters
12:24 Community 3D-Printed Blasters & Compatibility
15:01 Closing Remarks
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Edited by J Perry Heun, Out of Darts Video Editor - Розваги
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Short darts have dominated as the hobby standard, with Talons coming out on top as the community's favorite half-length magazine. What do you think we should compare next? Or do you see another ammo type coming out on top in the future?
I’m kinda hyped for Hyper. But being made by hasbro I kinda don’t know what to expect
Neither do we. Like Luke said on the stream, we're hoping for smaller Rival-esque ammo. But we've also heard rumors about gel? The repeated launch delays are kinda irritating though. - Perry
If Hyper is just smaller rival ammo, will there be a Hyper adapted Jupiter? Or maybe an adapter
Jus ordered 5 +6rds ExtraEdge Mag Ext. Look out for another order for roughly 15 more
You kind of touched on it, but a short dart comparison and compatibility run through might be nice for us newbies to short darts. I thought about buying the Worker cutter device for cutting down full length darts, but I heard the dimensions are slightly off. I also heard that waffle tips don’t feed as well in some of the higher powered blasters.
I wish dart zone actually sold their products internationally so that I can get myself some good blasters, we can barely find any rival blasters in England!
We agree! It's about time for our friends over the waters to enjoy the last few years great offerings from Dart Zone. - Perry
Hello there obiwan Shrekobi
General Kenobi...
@@obi-wanshrekobi8767 one thing is they don’t sell to Canada but a Walmart near me sold a nexus pro
@@obiwankenobi9547 Ironic
Going back way back, "stefan darts" referred specifically to homemade darts made out of foam backer rod with a hot glue tip and not even the length aspect. I remember lots of stefans back in the day being pretty much full length, but people found that they flew better when made shorter and eventually the definition kind of evolved to describe short darts in general.
I'm sure this has been commented a bunch, but Katana mags also fit in the adventure force pro adapter, just like talons do.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that AF Pro mags (but NOT DZ Pro mags) are the same geometry as Katanas except for not being reversible like Katanas.
My first talons are coming today
Cool! if you don’t like having to pull hard on the mag, get the adapter with a mag release, definitely my preference.
The AF Nexus/Aeon Pro mags are essentially Katana profile. They will fit in a Jet Katana adapter (and most community designs made for Katana) and the AF Pro adapter can take Katana mags.
Yes when my son and I bought our FDL3’s from Jesse and Jackie for ADL a couple years ago, I went with a short dart nose and he still wanted the full nose. Now that we have so many other things that use short darts of one flavor or the other he sometimes regrets that decision. I think we will be building a short nose for him once we’re able to resume playing again. We will see. We love the shop Luke!
Considering I never bothered with half darts until Adventure Force brought it into the retail space, I appreciate this video. I have a ton of blasters and the amount of money/work I would have to put into converting to a half dart economy was super prohibitive.
What’s up Luke Stryfewalker?
Sounds like an alter ego, lol - Perry
🤣 for the nickname
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Awesome video! So much great information summarised and collected in one place.
Excellent, you gave me enough info to decide which mags to buy to mod to fit my HC Diana. Appreciate ya!
Wow this video saved me some future headaches, got my order fixed right on time. This was really helpful thanks Luke!
recently getting into this hobby and got a nexus pro today, just ordered 5 purple magazines as they're my favorite color, thanks for the video!
I didn't know I needed this video until I watched it. Thank you!!
I always love your style of videos
OoD
Wow what a well thought out and informative video. Keep up the great work.
very nice review ... Luke! thanks...
Awesome video, thanks very helpful.
I’ve got to say, my current favorite mags are the 18 round Bananalons. I quite like them!
Same
They question is the red or orange macths more to the nexus pro
@@xqromm9963 black for nexus pro
@@abel4lt523 i got a full body kit for nexus pro and its black with good stock.
@@xqromm9963 nice
I love the short darts and talon mags that I got from you last year.
Love the profile pic man! Rematches the winter soldier on Disney plus the night before last, such a good movie!
With the recent announcement of the Pro Mk3, I was gonna finally buy some talons, however. I'm so glad I saw this video. Because now, I'm just going to wait. I'm going to get the full-length 22's just for now.
Was thinking about all of this for the past few days.
you love to see it! i love lukes videos.
Please make your own compact short dart pistol blaster! I would love to see your take on a short dart Jupiter with all the tactics!
Thanks Luke.
As many others have said, I wish we could get Adventure force / dartzone blasrlters off the shelf in the UK
Great video- thanks for doing these! I like the straight mags - I’m going to be a little disappointed if everything shifts to the angled mags now...
my first short darts was cutting the mushed ends off a bunch of elites
That helps so much with my anxiety!
It’s weird seeing half lengths or how I like to call them stefans being a thing we see in HvZ and being a normal thing now even though I haven’t been to a single game mostly cause I’m broke I’ve been in this hobby for about 12 years see it grow from homemades to worker to 3d printed blasters to seeing stefans on store shelves with many amazing coming into hobby just like yourself
Love this hobby
Great video. I have recently started to use shortdarts more and have great luck with talons, straight and curved. I hope the angled ones don't gain traction just cause I have so many of the others and want new blasters but have no interest in buying magazines for just 1 or 2 blasters.
Thank you for doing this. And also yeah dart zone when you gonna make it worldwide .
Tip: if your planning to make a kriss vector mod on a syrfe used the angled talon adapter for flywheels
Great video sir. I know mags are the bees knees and all but I just really like drums, I would love to see a drum blaster with a sealed breach, super pumped about that foamknights blaster with interchangeable breaches and mag wells and I think a drum blaster would be easier but I’m not an engineer so I guess we’ll never know 😢. Keep up the great work over there.
i love the shop, because im in England and they are hard to get!!
Finally there here!
Thanks for the dart 🎯 “tips”
The short dart mag adapters would be cool with a button release right where you put your thumb to level the mag out 👍
I’m looking forward to the Phoenix I love it’s older brother the dominator
What adapter can I use for a Nerf Demolisher? I tried the adapter for the stryfe but it doesn't seem to fit right. Thank you for your support to the community! I have bought most of my products at Out of Darts. Love your services and quick delivery!
I use ECC gen 3 stefans for my modded Strongarm (rear loading mod) and they are glorious
A few pistol blasters you missed, the SPAMF (Falconfire mod) can take both Talon and Katana mags, the Dessert Pigeon can be ordered either as Talon or Katana mags, and the Falcon is Talon only.
I have all 3 of these and several Talon mags to use on them, plus a drop-leg holster to carry the extra ammo.
Thanks for the list! We just grabbed examples of ones we had on hand at the time. Now that we have the blaster wall up, it will be a lot easier in the future! - Perry
Great video guys! I really like the custom talon colours you sell, especially the purple. Will you do a video on 2D printed mags such as Than's Thanhos mags? That would interesting as I have recently been printing some of my own. Also, I have a dessert pigeon which can use the custom angled "pecker" mags and also regular talons, do the new angled ones work with it too or is the catch in a different place?
That sounds like a great video on its own! As for the dessert pigeon, I (Perry) personally don't know. Shoot us an e-mail to orders@outofdarts.com regarding any modding or product questions. We are on e-mail much more consistently than social media and will respond to you much more promptly there! - Perry
Hey mate. love the channel. really helped me out in the hobby. can you use the angled mags in a nexus pro?
Yes, you can use angled talon mags with the appropriate adapter.
After seeing your Tachi video, I'm really wanting an injection molded version of the Talon 15s with the top-load feed lips. Maybe even make it longer but still really ergonomic for rigs. I'd convert everything over to that in a heartbeat. They'd easily be the gold standard
You'll love our upcoming product...🤫
@@outofdarts I'll watch for it!
As a newbie i thought that these talons and their adapters were plug and play.U should also mention that an extended pusher different for each model (e.g different for stryfe and different for rapidstrike) is necessary for short darts.
Love short darts. My 2s Stryfe shooting long darts can out distance a stock Nexus Pro. But I love my Nexus Pro and DZP MKII.
does the worker m4 style shot dart mag work in the nexus pro
I’m working on a drum mag for short darts
do you guys make a mag adapter that has a pusher rod extension built in so one could potentially on-the-fly switch between regular length dart magazines and a short length dart adapter 'W' short dart mag?? =/
Thanks in advance. =)
what is the reason we can't use DZ pro mags in a nexus? does it just not fit in the nexus/aeon mag well adapter? is there a mod that will allow it?
I kept wondering which ones I should get. I guess this settles it! (Talons, right?)
Will the nexus pro use the curved talon mags?
Acc darts?? Also there is a katana compatible mag-grip for the lepus 😉..... Oh and the worker flywheel magadapers only work on a few flywheelers. For the rayven for example you have to cut a bit off the bottom front bit of the adapter for it to fit in the rayven magwell
imma gonna use this to make an mp5
Are there any injection molded mag converters for Katana Mags that I could buy? I notice Jet Blaster is out of stock and I need some converters. I use Game Face mags (essentially Jet Katanas) but the follower doesn’t go to the top of the mag when using AF converters. Thanks!
Unfortunately, unless you want to purchase (another) Game Face Prime, Jet Ceda, Ceda-S, etc, there really are no adapters sold by themselves.
Didn't see anything covering katanas being compatible with other adapters so I wanted to make sure but will they be compatible with the nexus pro one?
The Nexus Pro and Aeon Pro are Katana compatible with the included adapter. - Perry
Quick question, are the slanted mags compatible with the snake v2 or should i just go with a straight talon magazine?
It appears that the Snake V2 only takes regular Talon geometry, so only the straight 15s, curved 18s, or our 29-round Tachis would work.
I would, however, double-check with the designer and see if a V3 is in the works to accept angled mags.
Just out of curiosity can you use the angle mags and angle mag adapters in the Nexus Pro? And where can I get more short darts?
Yes you can. All adapters will fit in full-length "N-Strike" style magwells, with the standard, centered adapter being designed for springers.
We sell worker short darts on the shop, but Adventure Force Pro half-lengths are a Walmart Exclusive.
We’d be happy to answer any more of your product questions! Shoot us an e-mail to orders@outofdarts.com regarding any product questions or information regarding your order. We are on e-mail much more consistently than social media and will respond to you much more promptly there!
Now that I know when, I must know why
Hi I have a question. Does the cage type matter in a flywheel blaster when trying to feed short darts? I have heard that high crush motors are necessary for proper feeding, but I would like a second opinion.
We’d be happy to answer any more of your modding questions! Shoot us an e-mail to orders@outofdarts.com. We are on e-mail much more consistently than social media and will respond to you much more promptly there!
are there short darts with suction?
Do you know if the 10 round Angled Talon that comes with the Phoenix will be available separately?
I’d like to be able to make a semi auto solenoid powered version of the Phoenix as a sidearm for HvZ and I’d prefer to run 10 round mags in a sidearm rather than 18s as that’ll make it awkward to holster.
We’d be happy to answer any of your product questions! Shoot us an e-mail to orders@outofdarts.com regarding any product questions. We are on e-mail much more consistently than social media and will respond to you much more promptly there!
@@outofdarts Thank you very much! I’ll send that off right away!
Wonder if it’s somehow possible to make a reverse angled talon mag and adapter to get that UMP45 look
If you could modify the adapter, you could totally just load darts backwards
12:13 “worker will probably *release* this eventually”
Release like mag release
What about CoatDuck mags and the original mags that look like full length ones but hold half length darts?
Fascinating seeing you here, Silicone.
@@fmpairsoft9039 Haha yeah, I try to keep a close eye on these nerfing fellows
@@SiliconeSword My church hosts a big event every year and I always get an itch around summer time. Especially because the price tag is much lower and the accessibility much higher than airsoft.
I can’t find the flywheel angled mag adapter
do you need to modify the bolt assembly to run short darts in a long dart original system?
For springers, you usually don't need to modify the blaster apart from inserting the mag adapter. Flywheelers usually need an extended pusher for it to function with short darts.
do any of these mags work with the Adventure Force conquest pro?
The Conquest Pro is confirmed to take Adventure Force Pro Mags, Dart Zone Max Mags, and Worker straight-15 Talon mags. Talons do have a tendency to dislodge themselves during slam-fire, but otherwise work fine.
P.S. Curved-18 Talons, and our own OOD Tachi mags can work with a bit of shell cutting. We have even seen some people make a stock out of a Tachi setup, but try this at your own risk.
Can we use the flywheel adapter on the rayven instead of a stryfe?
Yes, the Stryfe was just an example.
I have a question about using short darts in a flywheel blaster. Do I need to modify my strife to use short darts and if I do need to mod my strife can I still use full length darts in my strife?
Yes. In order to use short darts, you need an extended pusher, which would make it incompatible with full-lengths.
Please come to Malaysia Dart Zone
can the angled mag adaptor fit in the nexus pro?
Yes.
So... since nobody mentioned it, what was the front rail section of your Talon Claw printed with? I think it would be a great filament for my Super SPAMF!
Unfortunately, it appears Silverfox industries' supplier is no longer making that amazing iridescent filament. - Perry
@@outofdarts Bummer for us, lucky for Luke! Uber Special Edition. LOL
Power
I use rival
Heard rumors that a toy company in korea is working their way to bring in dart zone to korea
could i uses the adapter on like a rapidstrike and use short darts or do i need a different pusher?
You would need an extended pusher. The adapter alone does not allow the darts to make contact with the flywheels.
@@outofdarts okay thanks and hi
I'd rather still buy the dzp darts from you just to support you and the hobby
I prefer the curved mag over the angled one. The angled one looks wrong in more blasters than it it looks good in. Each to their own of course.
Angled mag brings one really nice thing to the table - mag-in-grip pistols. Sure you can do them in straight mags, but the angled grip is generally more comfortable.
wouldn't you be reloading more with the short darts? not to mention capacity-wise of each mag? [Do correct me since the 29-Round mag is out.]
Since short darts are more accurate than full-lengths, you actually would statistically reload the same or less often than if you had full-length mags. That along with the added capacity, make short darts the premiere ammo type of the hobby.
@@outofdarts ah okay, thanks for replying
What’s up Luke I am Chase I am the one that emailed you
can i get a link for the second channel he mentioned?
Here it is: ua-cam.com/channels/ySl2V6QacovH68KUwcSJYQ.html
We haven't yet updated it to a custom URL. - Perry
@@outofdarts thank you
nice, personally I use a curved banana mag and a nexus pro
Same
@@mozartpizza8287 do you have a secondary
Im looking for suggestions
@OUT OF DARTS thanks!
@@tanoshi4300 If you have a little experience and depending on how you play on using I would recommend modding and compacting a stryfe
@@breqd thanks, but I will probably do this to a spectrum instead
Is the slanted adapter for the stryfe on the shop?
It should be... Shoot us an e-mail to orders@outofdarts.com regarding any product questions. We are on e-mail much more consistently than social media and will respond to you much more promptly there!
@@outofdarts i just checked the shop and the forward placed flywheel adapter for the angled mags wasnt up
We'll look into it. Thanks! - Perry
Since the first Nerf mod I started is the Vector Stryfe with v6 select fire kit, I am very interested in the angled mag/adapter combo. Although, I may get the Stryfle MK2 with Magnus Masterkey done first... the last of the 3D printed bits are running on my CR-6 SE right now...
I legit just bought a mag and some darts
Thanks for supporting!
PURPLE BANANAS
Someone should take the Cary handle of the nerf rayven
Unrelated but goddamn I want a jupiter
What is the most accurate short darts?
That depends on the type of blaster, but we've had good experiences with Dart Zone Pro "Bamboo" darts and Adventure Force Pro Darts.
Stay tuned though. We'll do another whole video on dart comparisons. - Perry
Would this work in a rapidstrike with an adapter? (Unmodded)
Yes. with the appropriate adapter, half-length mags like the Talons should work in the Rapidstrike.
@@outofdarts ok thanks for letting me know I appreciate it
@@outofdarts which adapter does it need?
The front-facing flywheeler adapter (standard or Angled Talon) allows the dart to make contact with the flywheels. The regular talon adapters can't push a dart that far. - Perry
@@outofdarts thanks
my guy was talking about tips
So what if you sell the dart zone pro dart a little bit expensive. Its only $4.00 more lol. That's not that expensive
Those Jet darts totally fall apart easy.
Luke mentions "Nerf modding" a few times towards the end of the video. With barely anything directly Nerf related in the video, has it maybe come time for us all in the hobby to evolve with it's terminology / nomenclature too?
Secondary channel?
3:13, notice anything, anything at all?
Lol. I forgot to put a title that mentioned Katanas are bidirectional. One of the other reasons Talons have become a fav. - Perry
I just can’t imagine unjamming a blaster after doing that...
I feel like hyper balls would be better for pro guns, but I don’t know if darts preform better
Do gen 3 worker work with nexus pro
Yes, most all pre-made half-length darts with tapered heads work in the Nexus Pro.
However, do not expect hand-cut Adventure Force waffle heads to work well. Too much barrel drag. - Perry
@@outofdarts thanks Perry, and wow you have quick response time
@@obiwankenobi9547 Thanks. I pride myself on it. - Perry
@@outofdarts well, that’s good to anyone that asks question like me
You forgot about 3D printed mags (Equalizers, Thanlons, Etc.)
Edit: Is 6 12 round mags (Thanlons) enough for a war?
Wow 3:12