Doctor Who: Season 19 (1982). The Celery Quartet.
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Stam Fine Reviews looks at the 19th Season of Doctor Who, Peter Davison's first year as The Fifth Doctor. Along with companions Tegan (Janet Fielding), Nyssa (Sarah Sutton), and Adric (Matthew Waterhouse), this season was going to have to deal with an army of younger viewers who'd only known Tom Baker's Doctor.
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0:00 Intro
0:30 New Doctor
2:27 The Fifth Doctor
4:25 Adric, Nyssa, and Tegan
8:11 Castrovalva
12:10 Four to Doomsday
14:17 Kinda
18:20 The Visitation
22:00 Black Orchid
23:58 Earthshock
31:20 Timeflight
34:25 Daleks - Розваги
I was a humble visual effects assistant on some of this series. Abiding memories: it's true Peter Davidson was an easy going bloke, and spectacularly popular with the make up department! And drove a red Audi Quattro, which to my shame I envied. The vegetation in the Kinda studio absolutely stank! Poor Janet Fielding thought she had legs like bottles. In reality she was very attractive. Also, what punters don't appreciate is that Dr Who was used as a punishment for recalcitrant staff, or as practice for newbies, like me. Happy memories, though.
>Also, what punters don't appreciate is that Dr Who was used as a punishment for recalcitrant staff, or as practice for newbies, like me.
It kinda shows...
The most unbelievable part of this comment is the utterly laughable statement that Janet Fielding is attractive!!! I met her in 1985, 1995 and picked her up in my cab in 2003 and on every occasion she was a midget crone - as grotesque in reality as her wannabe Germaine Greer bile she spat out when she left the show..... but has quickly denounced since it came back and is even reprising her role... the totally hypocritical old bag fraud!
Janet Fielding was incredibly attractive.
@@Shazam999 Agreed. I wasa teenage back in the 80s but I had a huge crush on Tegan.
@@Shazam999Was, yes.
‘Adric Tales’ is quite possibly the best use of that character ever. Well done.
I can't wait to order my volumes of "Adric Tales" on extended play VHS!
That was crazy he had me so worried for him each episode
It's was ashamed everyone hated Adric, but really it was the scriptwriters fault. He got virtually no dialogue or character development his entire time on series.
@@galactic_socialistSeem lot of young male child actors fall into this trap... Producers only put them a series attract youth audience. But give them no character development.
@@paulhunter6742 Reminds me of a similar character in one of the Kamen Rider series, by far my least liked character too. A shame that people will write a character made to appeal to kids but makes no effort to make it actually likeable even to a kid.
Although my age suggests Baker the first should be my Doctor, it was Davidsons run that I really grew to love the show. Also Nyssa was my teenage crush. And whilst we all hated Adric even then, that silent credits roll is a piece of TV history that has stuck with me till today, you simply didn't expect it.
Dying saved his character. Agreed, that was powerful and, for memory, the first time as a child a character was killed. Still moves me.
in a highly misspspent youth i was in a local fan group which just happened to be the Brighton one so we once got JN-T along for a chat. One of our members turned up with a 'I wish I'd killed Adric' t-shirt on which John didn't understand. Seemed he was labouring under the misapprehension that Adric had been a much loved character and was now much mourned.
I remember the first time I saw the credits after Adric's death... quite memorable.
Nyssa is definitelly one of the cutest companions. So beautiful.
Excellent as always. Being from Australia originally, my viewing after school was made up of Grange Hill, Danger Mouse, the Goodies, and Doctor Who.
I remember those good times. Goodies followed by Dr Who on ABC tv. Those were the nice times of analog tv, and the nice ABC etc test patterns during after-hours times hahaha. I also remember 'the beachcombers'. That was before the Davidson times ----- more toward the Tom Baker times. But I watched the Davidson ones, and the rest that followed. All very good.
What? Bananaman and Inspector Gadget were also the Doctor Who Curtain Raisers! Pssst. I am The Meddling Monk.
In the UK the Goodies was in later on around 8 or 9 o’clock.
Grange Hill was massive with us school kids in the late 70s and 80s as it was one of the few kids shows that took a serious look at school in the UK with bullying and drug use being in the plots and kids who were realistic.
@@musicalneptunian True! And Worzel Gummidge too I think!
@@nigeh5326 Love grange hill ..... we had that in Australia too. Love the funky tune of it as well.
As I understand it, Adric's hologram in "Time-Flight" was included so that the listing in Radio Times would include Waterhouse in the cast, keeping the twist of Adric's death in "Earthshock" a secret.
Yesterday I was stuck at home I’ll so put on UA-cam and clicked on one of your Doctor Who series review.
10 hours later and I went to bed having thoroughly enjoyed your videos.
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The Goodies followed by Doctor Who, around 6pm. My childhood in the 70's.
Both were part of my childhood in the 70s too,though the Goodies was on a midweek evening and Dr Who on at Saturday teatime (after the sports results and either before or after the early evening news) on saturday here in the UK.
Late 4th doctor early 5th doctor has 1 of the best Tardis crews in the show _ I love Tegan so much ❤
Well I suppose someone has too...
Am I the only one finding the little synth horn stab when Adric falls down at 14:13 really funny?
You're definitely not the only one. They make so much fun out of it on The Visitation DVD commentary, it's hilarious :D
Let's be honest, if he hadn't landed on that accordion he might have been seriously hurt! 🤔
I'm somewhat in disagreement in that I think Davison's Doctor showed more strength of character and fortitude here than he would in the seasons after. Infact I'd probably regard him far better as a Doctor if this were Classic Who's last season.
Castrovalva managing to wrap up Logopolis as well as it did gave the impression the makers knew what they were doing here. Most of the rest of the season did too, until Time-Flight sadly happened.
The following seasons definitely showed how JNT & Saward had shaky ideas about where to go with 5th, particularly in stories like Resurrection of the Daleks where he ends up feeling rather out of place vs. what the story's going for. I think Androzani shows how an actually great writer could pull off that kind of story while better defining this type of Doctor without making them like another for convenience's sake, but that's the outlier. Frontios stands out as a favorite serial of mine for starting off like mid-era Saward before Bidmead swerves back into a more pre-JNT story archetype, much to everyone's benefit.
Man, I love your takes on classic Who. Yes, it's ripping the piss a bit, but with love. More of this!
If you aren't ripping the piss, are you really a classic Who fan?
Behind the scenes info, snarky comments about Adric, and singing Daleks.... another winner! Thanks.
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I think Adric suffered the same problem as Wesley Crusher: the writers didn't know how to write supersmart teenagers. Or any teenager. Or adults in season one TNG. Someone had a good idea and the ball got dropped.
He should've seen a doctor about that
But Adric was an underground rebel, an independent will, a stowaway who got himself places. All totally unlike + opposite to Wesley. That should make an appreciated good teenage character, and indeed I like him and think the hate is prejudice from self-consciousness about teens, and writers' prejudice putting him into a lot more morally conflicted positions than the older companions.
Wesley was everything awful about a token teenager in a show spinning naff conservative goo values: The dutiful obedient cadet patronised smiled at + head patted. Abominable unwarchable exploitative sugary, naff, insulting to teenagers too. All showing up ST itself as the dismal military obedience machine setting it is , in contrast to DW.. Until his ending, where he turns against all that, surprisingly redeemed him. But during Wesley's run his place + use were totally unlike Adric.
@@conscienceaginBlackadder TNG was conservative? Considering Roddenberry's own politics, the moneyless "economy", and various other aspects I kind of doubt that...as a conservative myself that somehow still likes classic Trek. On my site I'm reviewing one of the novels a chapter at a time right now.
The two shows had different ways of doing a poor job with their teen genius, and Wesley was admittedly worse because the writers had him forced on them (they really didn't like him...Doctor Who at least tried with Adric) but generally it's the same issue.
Poor Adders, I suppose these days they would write him as a Sheldon? With his maths badge, lack of social awareness and obsessive fixations played strictly as comic relief? He could, as the Tenth Doctor would say, teeth clenched, have been "so much more."
I was a young teen myself at the time. Yes, he embarrassed me as a fan, but truthfully they failed to write him as likeable in any way. But young Waterhouse also seems woefully miscast. If you look at his lines, you can imagine the exact same words being said any number of different ways which don't trigger an immediate dislike. So that's on him and whoever allowed him to express Adric that way. Now older, wiser, and with frankly better writing, on Big Finish, Adders is nowhere near as annoying as he was on TV. His pompous little "let ME do the math" moments come across almost as endearing, and of course, because we know what happens to him, he's borderline sympathetic. Yet, still very much not so, on rewatch of his tv appearances. There's a reason for that.
Plus one of the backroom staff said he refused to wear deodorant and wouldn't let them wash his costume. So he stank and no one wanted to be around him. It's arguable if this qualifies as a fun fact. But I will say, that moment in The Five-ish Doctors, as he orbits Peter Davisons head in a pastiche of his regeneration visions, and says, "it's me, isn't it?" made me lol. So that's a win for Adric, I suppose? Maybe?
@@hgwells1899 Stink stories about teenagers are an emotionally abusing and stereotypically character-bashing worst part of our era's mob psychology structure of fashionability to oppress teens. That story unless it can be evidenced, is exactly the type of malice towards teenage that is street-cred fashionable to smear around. For a start they should have had at least 3 copies of the costume for changing, it's implausible not to and that story makes it more so
I’ve rewatched your doctor who series of videos about 10x now, can’t get enough. The way you poke fun at it is genuinely hilarious and classic who is always best when not taken too seriously. It’s clear you have a lot of love for the show… we have that in common. Keep up the great work, you deserve a lot more subscribers
thanks. glad you're enjoying the reviews.
I wasn't quite born yet (1983, my first Dr Who memories are of Sylvester McCoy) but Aussies I've known told me Seasons 18 and 19 were shown on ABC-TV back to back as one single, 44 episode epic season after what had been a couple years of repeats. I can only imagine how amazing that must have felt.
That Dalek Xanadu cover was completely unexpected but very welcome. Great video, love season 19, minus Time Flight of course.
"Black Orchid" was the first story since The Second Doctor's Scottish story in which he acquires Jamie MacCrimmon to be a period piece with no science fantasy elements except The Doctor and his associates.
With this four-person TARDIS team, I view them as a group of siblings traveling together. With the Doctor being the oldest sibling, who is responsible for the younger ones, but just as vulnerable as they are.
Stam you're such a dag....daleks singing our livy's xanadu cheered me up no end....great stuff!!
5th was always my favorite doctor of the classic era, more approachable but you can still tell he’s a Time Lord with hundreds of years under his belt.
Also enjoyed his companions too, even Adric, who I honestly feel people are way too unfair to.
Using Adric's death for humor seems to be helping give people catharsis!
I agree with your comments , a decent & experimental 1st sesson for Peter's Dr.
That car alarm... LMFAO! Also, Stam Fine never fails to deliver some quality 'Dalek Karaoke'.
I was in a band called, "Jailbait Romana".
So there I was, watching calmly. Then the "Adric Tales" for Kinda literally caused me to spill my coffee.
Peter Davison was the most likeable, relatable and vulnerable of the Doctors, though he didn't convey the strangeness of the character as well as the previous actors had done. I always loved his sparring with Tegan.
Can we talk about how there's finally handheld shots with the video cameras and how great they look?
I bloody love these videos, and it's a Friday evening too, what a treat thanks!!
Been binge-watching your Who synopses today, enjoying the comedic asides the whole while. But "Dutch artist and rapper M.C. Escher" made me laugh a lot more than it should have.
Your videos are simply the best. You put so much thought and care and effort and (truly wonderful) humour into them that they can be watched over and over.
I find this season gets harsh criticisms sometimes but I positively love it. I think the dynamic between the four stars is a lot of fun, with The Doctor is a sort of school teacher with students of varying personalities on a field trip across the cosmos with him. I find the season works best if you just skip the rather unfortunate Time-Flight, in my opinion Adric's death is the true finale, setting up the darker direction the Fifth Doctor would eventually end up down. Besides that, all the stories save for the last one range from good to great, leaning on great, and I constantly revisit this season. It's one of my favorites.
>I think the dynamic between the four stars is a lot of fun, with The Doctor is a sort of school teacher with students of varying personalities on a field trip across the cosmos with him.
Funny how that was how the show was initially supposed to be...
@@parlinmains Basically, yeah. I know everyone hates the new Doctor Who seasons but at the very least I actually learned about the Indian Partition of 1947. Similar to the Fifth Doctor I think the Jodie Whittaker also feels like a teacher and I think Doctor Who should teach kids things as well as entertain. Both of them did a good job breaking down historical and scientific facts for the audience, I can really see kids who don't know about Rosa Parks learning something from the episode about her, and yeah there were some corny parts but I didn't mind. I think Davison did it the best though, I really love any scene of him explaining science or history, right off the bat with the first story he's teaching you about recursion.
Poor Matthew Waterhouse has had to suffer 40 years of mockery because he took a job he wasn't cut out for in his youth.
Adric was a better actor than Peter Calaldi
@dazzle1933 welcome to watchmojo, here are the top 10 worst takes in history, no 1...
I always thought that the "Got it!" elbow slam by Adric was a subtle nod to Tom's Doctor.
As soon as I saw this video in my recommended list I sprung out of bed and went to get myself some greens. Good work, as always.
Kinda is probably my favourite story of all 80's Dr Who
Never be able to watch genesis of the daleks again without hearing xanadu somewhere in the background!
All of the Starbucks in close distance to his house. 😂😂😂👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
"And wouldn't you know it? It's the God-damn Cybermen."
And that's when I died! LOL
Ah Richard Todd; survived D Day and the defence of Pegasus Bridge, rewarded with a co-starring role opposite Nerys Hughes. As if it wasn't bad enough that he lost his dog because he daren't call out its name in public.
3:46 I could swear that Peter Davison was giving the bird on camera.
You remind me that I should probably go re-watch the Tomorrow People. A little nostalgic masochism is good for the soul.
Also I had never realized how much Daleks look like they're roller-skating before.
I've never laughed out loud so many times during one video before! Can't wait for the next one!
The first episode of Castrovalva was shown in Scotland at 3.15 pm for some strange reason
I love this channel. Thank you for making me feel like I’m 7 years old again. This was very much my era of Doctor Who 😊 by the way your voice sounds much better through headphones 👍🏻
Same here I really enjoy the witty comments and not too serious approach combined with facts that we may not otherwise know.
His other movie and tv series playlists are all worth watching too
Best version of Xanado-oo-oo.
Monkey: Journey to the West... I saw a Gorillaz production of that tale a little while back. It was neat.
Additional: Gosh, Nyssa sure was pretty. Those eyes of hers get me every time.
Sarah Sutton was attractive, but have you not seen Nicola Bryant's Peri Brown?
Best dr who review vids on YT imho. Facts, fun & laughs! Keep it up!
And who voiced the title role for the English dub of Monkey? David 'Silver' Collings, the best Doctor we never had.
I'm convinced the writers personally despised both Matthew Waterhouse and Janet Fielding. They went out of their way to give Adric and Tegan whiny unlikable personalities that annoyed the audience. Also, they made sure Adric's death was neither heroic nor sacrificial in any way; he stayed behind, not specifically to save anyone, but rather to give himself one more try at regaining control of the ship, which he then failed at, dying a meaningless death that changed absolutely nothing
I need that Dalek Xanadu cover as a video.
'Jailbait Romana' loooooool. Great video.
It crowd reference. Lovely.
3:47 Is that a middle finger I see? Wow, the Doctor was _really_ annoyed with Tegan...
22:40 What's with Fifth Doctor companions having doppelgangers? Nyssa here, then Peri in _The Church and the Crown_...
I lost it at the car alarm going off @ 23:40 🤣🤣🤣
Tom Baker did NOT have a 'perm'. HIs hair was naturally curly.
Fifth doctor was my first doctor.
When are you doing more seasons. I am living for these!!!!
The nature of Monkey was irrepressible….♥️🍀☮️
Among some of us at school at the time Monkey became a highlight of tv. The show was so different and so much fun with humour we could enjoy as teenage boys.
A classic and unique show
This is awesome! GO back to the first and second doctors. They were pretty great and love to hear ur reviews even if there’s not much vids.. well till they complete the animations
The Xanadu thing... it is Friday night, but I a not drunk enough for this.
Never realised til now it was P.C Reg Hollis playing the part of Dukkha in Kinda before now!
The anachronism in the "story without anachronisms" was 👌 😆
Honestly, I never understood the decision by the writers to have *two* super intelligent companions (Nyssa and Adric). It made for quite a unique companion mishmash but ultimately even the writers couldn't figure out how to juggle the two characters properly so they got rid of one.
These are the same people who didn’t think to just write Kamelion in his human disguises after King’s Demons to avoid using the prop until Planet of Fire.
I had such a good laugh watching this. It’s my favourite ‘classic’ series - simply because it’s the first one I ever watched. Ironically, you’re barely more scathing about the costumes, writing and ‘special’ effects than the actors themselves in the audio commentary on the DVDs of these stories. And when I say ‘the actors’, I mean Janet Fielding. Fun fact: in the scene where they watch Adric getting blown up on-screen in the Tardis, they were struggling to keep a straight face. Watch it again and you can clearly see Sarah Sutton desperately trying not to laugh and quickly hiding her face.
ALL THOSE YEARS AGO
My Mom: Doctor Who is floating in space?
Me: He's wearing a helmet!
Another superb review!
Ok well, now I henceforth have no choice but to think of Nyssa as Jailbait Romana.
I love this take on Doctor Who
1:27 After hearing the "Own up, aunty..." line I liked and subscribed.
Earthshock is a classic. I love Eric Saward's gritty sci-fi action style. And Adric died for a good cause - making the Cybermen scary again; a formidable adversary that the Doctor cannot always defeat without major sacrifices.
They started off with three companions, two female and one male, as William Hartnell did.
I was 8 when this series was broadcast on the BBC, so up to this point I'd only known Tom Baker as the doctor. I never thought of the Five Faces repeats as a way to remind viewers that there were other doctors before Tom, so to me Jon Pertwee was Worzel Gummidge and Frazer Hines was that bloke from Emmerdale Farm. Earthshock was the first time I saw Cybermen on TV rather than just in Target novelisations.
Nyssa and Tegan are so cute.
Just a few months from the release of the zx spectrum the 5th Doctor was perfect for those waiting to have a spectrum for Christmas. Thought out this time until his departure, we’d watch this doctor and enjoy whitest taking a break for the zx as we practiced for those spectrum competitions. Nothing negative to say about this doctor as we enjoyed the changed made in the 1980’s.
Darlek singing bowie.... one day chart toppers
Yay! Another Aussie Dr who fan like me!!
As a kid watching "THE Doctor" falling to his death before regenerating into Peter Davidson is a TV moment that left a lasting impression on me, and that was the beginning of the end of my love affair of this sci-fi series. I did try to watch Peter's season but only half heartedly, my heart was never really in it. And the less said about the new series, the better. I have my favourite episodes from the golden era (on dvd)....I'M GOOD
24:34 - Oh my god. "After binging on old episodes of Doctor Who".. I laughed WAY too hard at that.
Heavy irony? 😁
Love that show
Great video, very funny :)
"The Celery" was _never_ real. It was always a figment of someone's imagination.
The first from Adric's "holodeck" *Castrovalva* , which wasn't a real place. The next time he changed it was the Eternal's sailing ship in *Enlightenment* , which wasn't real either, only given form by The Eternals.
It was inspired by MC Esscher's paintings of impossible places and mazes, one of which was titled "Castrovalva". The Easter Egg was that this was the first time since The First Doctor was trapped inside the Tardis in a blind inescapable trap.
"Jailbait Romana" LOL
That 'Nyssa' 'Romana' line tho hahahaha
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PLEASE do a full length version of the Dalek Xanadu
"Jailbait Romana" just got you a sub.
I'll be damned. I never realized he was on the Tomorrow People. I'll have to check that out
Time-Flight has an ambition sorely lacking from most Doctor Who; I think it's great!
"jailbait Romana" LOL
I lost it at the car alarm joke
When I saw Castrovalva I kept thinking where is Adric. The writing on the wall was they were going to focus on Mindless Impatient and bossy Tegan, who was no Sarah Jane or Liz Shaw
Adric was smarter than Zoe and more streetwise than Ace, but they changed that to build up Nyssa
Adric was the first real companion to be killed: Katrina and Sara Kingdom don't meet the criteria
Loved the Starbucks gag
"he wouldnt want us to mourn him .... neccasarily... "
The presentation of the Indigenous Australian characters in this was very shocking, but when I learnt that they were going to go with "plausible gibberish" for the Aboriginal language before Janet Fielding objected, I was glad at what we got. Even if the idea of a white Brisbanite in 1982 speaking any indigenous language at all is a big stretch.
1:11 🎼 Come and get it come and get it with Peter Russel Clarke... 🎵
I want a complete remake of Xanadu, with the Daleks. Davros can be Gene Kelly.
Surprised no-one commented on Yoda's mum being in the kinder story, haha
All that’s missing from the companions is copious amount of wine bottles🍷 🍷 🍷
I am pretty sure Kinda was made after a party with heavy drugs, it was the 80s after all.
The Daleks should make an album (I just dated myself) I would so buy it!
"EX-TER-MINATE!", "EX-TER-MINATE!", "EX-TER-MINATE!"