IGN are Seriously Bad at Reporting Kingdom Hearts

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  • @c0ya1
    @c0ya1 7 місяців тому +397

    Can't spell ignorant without IGN

  • @SleepingLion72
    @SleepingLion72 7 місяців тому +164

    IGN is IGNorant as always. Never get Kingdom Hearts news from them.

    • @gagejoseph91
      @gagejoseph91 7 місяців тому +9

      Correction: ALWAYS get Kingdom Hearts news from them. Everyone needs a good laugh sometimes. Primo content.

    • @hanakoisbestgirl4752
      @hanakoisbestgirl4752 7 місяців тому +11

      It's ign... you shouldn't really be getting ANY game news from them

    • @SleepingLion72
      @SleepingLion72 7 місяців тому +2

      @@hanakoisbestgirl4752 Fair point.

    • @demp11
      @demp11 7 місяців тому

      They where IGNorted a long time ago

  • @pbg624
    @pbg624 7 місяців тому +142

    I feel like we need to make and sign a petition to permanently ban IGN from talking about kingdom hearts.

    • @brookebear18B
      @brookebear18B 7 місяців тому +9

      Kingdom Hearts? Just stop them period

    • @deatheater6222
      @deatheater6222 7 місяців тому +5

      or anything

    • @kvj1989
      @kvj1989 7 місяців тому +2

      No they can talk about all they want, its garbage anyway.

    • @joshuagoforth1658
      @joshuagoforth1658 7 місяців тому +2

      @@brookebear18Bexactly!

    • @saltyishere9152
      @saltyishere9152 7 місяців тому +1

      Majority of games* lol

  • @thelyokomemelord
    @thelyokomemelord 7 місяців тому +105

    IGN and Kingdom Hearts.
    The feud that will never end.

  • @KalterPakster
    @KalterPakster 7 місяців тому +143

    Us sonic fans know how it feels, brother 😔

    • @raphaelbrown6314
      @raphaelbrown6314 7 місяців тому

      Yeah like them people really love to hate on sonic and keep dick sucking on mario and i love both mario and sonic there ups and downs and also giving cod perfect scores 😑

    • @leonoliveira8652
      @leonoliveira8652 7 місяців тому +13

      As a sonic fan that gets my news either directly from the official sources or from a few fan pages... I'd like to know too.

    • @koga115
      @koga115 7 місяців тому +15

      IGN used to be HORRIBLE with Sonic 😆

    • @EternityVoid_
      @EternityVoid_ 7 місяців тому +6

      At least they're getting roasted for it

    • @femboyroxas
      @femboyroxas 7 місяців тому +3

      I've never played anything other than the original Sonic, but I feel you there. I saw a compilation video of IGN and their Sonic reviews and my god 😭😭😭

  • @Tony-qe3fl
    @Tony-qe3fl 7 місяців тому +24

    When I was about 18 years old I got to make Movie Review articles for an Argentine based page known as Cinéfilos.
    Literally the very first thing they said to me was: In journalism, there’s no “Me, personally, I think…” etc. It’s all about “We”.
    It’s worrying that people at IGN are literally representing the brand, and still making things about themselves. Research is KEY, and nowadays is easier than ever, but they seem to always go from personal knowledge/experience, completely ignoring valuable information from fans, forums, official sites and trustworthy sources.

  • @304Dolo
    @304Dolo 7 місяців тому +44

    Holy moly, that 2014 interview made me face palm so hard I left a red mark

  • @trogkantusraam
    @trogkantusraam 7 місяців тому +20

    are we not gunna talk about the Sora in the one giant shoe picture in the background? 🤣

  • @HemisphereCinema
    @HemisphereCinema 7 місяців тому +42

    ign - lets make a kingdom hearts article post - everything goes all wrong.

  • @auggie4269
    @auggie4269 7 місяців тому +30

    As a Xenoblade fan, we know the same feeling. We will never forget IGN’s story about the adventures of Duncan and Rain

    • @KnightMinson
      @KnightMinson 7 місяців тому +1

      They talked shit about melia. Some things can never be forgiven.

    • @Gloomdrake
      @Gloomdrake 7 місяців тому +1

      Iirc correctly, they even spoiled Seven

  • @fatmanzeitgeist816
    @fatmanzeitgeist816 7 місяців тому +54

    How many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man!!?

  • @SetoShadowVT
    @SetoShadowVT 7 місяців тому +40

    IGN is the same way with Sonic....don't get me STARTED with Sonic Unleashed and that DEBACLE of poor reviewing by IGN....

    • @NicolasMendoula
      @NicolasMendoula 7 місяців тому +6

      Sonic unleashed was quite good actually.

    • @SetoShadowVT
      @SetoShadowVT 7 місяців тому +9

      @NicolasMendoula Oh it really was, but those idiots tried to make it look bad. I swear on purpose.

    • @NicolasMendoula
      @NicolasMendoula 7 місяців тому +2

      @@SetoShadowVT to me it has the best OST. It was very gorgeous even for today's standards, incredible feeling of speed. Perfect balance between seriousness and comedy. And the werehog wasn't that bad. It also has the best introduction scenes of the franchise.

  • @Minochu96
    @Minochu96 7 місяців тому +20

    IGN sometimes be like that
    I remember they even said Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire has "too much water" x3

    • @OmegaChase1002
      @OmegaChase1002 7 місяців тому +1

      wdym "sometimes"?

    • @TheDark4light
      @TheDark4light 7 місяців тому

      I mean... They did cut the surfing speed in gen 3.

  • @windwaker2094
    @windwaker2094 7 місяців тому +17

    It's quite obvious what happened with the Re+Mind review, bro couldn't mash X to win he had to use his brain for once to dodge and block at the right time even tho there's an EZ codes

  • @RyXan5_Gaming
    @RyXan5_Gaming 7 місяців тому +36

    Both Kingdom Hearts and IGN don't mix

  • @digimon654321
    @digimon654321 7 місяців тому +13

    To be fair this isn't the first time IGN as done this given the xenoblade chronicles and the 7.8 to much water meme

    • @NeoVenomStrike
      @NeoVenomStrike 7 місяців тому +1

      Rain and Duncan are my fav xenoblade characters

  • @AndersonTenecela
    @AndersonTenecela 7 місяців тому +17

    The sad thing is that as a fighting game fan, IGN has actually shown improvement when they talk about fighting games and do put in effort in their reviews or topics on the genre. They need to hire and bring actual KH fans when making content about KH instead of people who clearly don’t have a clue about the series series's

    • @bl00dymilitia420
      @bl00dymilitia420 7 місяців тому

      Its all about those COD games to them 😂 They couldnt formulate a proper review about Duck Hunt for example if they tried.

    • @Gloomdrake
      @Gloomdrake 7 місяців тому +2

      They’re hinging these reviews on the assumption that their readers are in the “Kingdom Hearts makes no sense” demographic

  • @gamerred200
    @gamerred200 7 місяців тому +46

    Hey man. Sonic fans knows how this feel.

    • @gabrielgaster3992
      @gabrielgaster3992 7 місяців тому +10

      Dude, the ultimate pain is being a KH, Sonic and Silent Hill fan all at the same time.

    • @inkchariot6147
      @inkchariot6147 7 місяців тому +6

      God Hand fans have it worse, IGN fucking killed it.

    • @Gloomdrake
      @Gloomdrake 7 місяців тому

      @@gabrielgaster3992wow, 2/3rds of your interests are in Smash. That’s pretty cool

    • @gabrielgaster3992
      @gabrielgaster3992 7 місяців тому

      @@Gloomdrake well, it's not like those are the only things I like.

  • @MadrigalNeXus
    @MadrigalNeXus 7 місяців тому +9

    The mispronunciation of Xehanort and Eraqus, reminds me of when they were reviewing Xenoblade Chronicles Definitive Edition a few years back and mispronounced a couple of the main characters (ie, Dunban and Reyn being pronounced as Duncan and Rain). I feel like when it comes to IGN at this point, they're just a joke in the industry.

    • @kalaski734
      @kalaski734 7 місяців тому +2

      gotta love the inscrutable Duncan and lovable meathead Rain

  • @Faceless_time_traveler
    @Faceless_time_traveler 7 місяців тому +4

    Man, watching this made me feel nostalgic about the times before Kingdom hearts 3, I remember how much I laughed at the Erasqueeze and Xenonort.
    As Roxas would've said : man, time flies.

  • @mrsupersonic1671
    @mrsupersonic1671 7 місяців тому +18

    I never liked IGN especially when they gave bad reviews when it comes sonic games

  • @cameron_1509
    @cameron_1509 7 місяців тому +4

    I felt really old when I saw you reviewing the kh3 cutscene in 2015

  • @leonoliveira8652
    @leonoliveira8652 7 місяців тому +3

    11:28 This man just pulled up three Joseph Ducreux paintings for the video XD

  • @rorimeclipse8228
    @rorimeclipse8228 7 місяців тому +12

    Their back at it again!? How many times do we have to teach them this lesson!?

    • @xenosora6412
      @xenosora6412 7 місяців тому

      You can't fix stupid ign is the perfect example of stupid they are the worst it's irritating

  • @Redmushrooms96
    @Redmushrooms96 7 місяців тому +1

    These old clips really put into perspective how long ive been watching these KH youtubers for. Can't believe its been over 10 years.

  • @yourcollegedebt8384
    @yourcollegedebt8384 7 місяців тому +10

    You can't spell ignorance without IGN

  • @Dario-uj6qo
    @Dario-uj6qo 7 місяців тому +3

    Not only you can see kh3 in the screenshot but Sora still uses his kh3 clothes there instead of having the model he will have in kh4

  • @HemisphereCinema
    @HemisphereCinema 7 місяців тому +7

    data bosses must had been a journalism nightmare for them hahaha

  • @oscarbarahona8496
    @oscarbarahona8496 Місяць тому +1

    IGN is also terrible with Sonic. I cant believe this first sonic and now kingdom hearts

  • @FantasticJay3582
    @FantasticJay3582 7 місяців тому +11

    I think this is just a tradition now.

  • @toinejaktheonly6082
    @toinejaktheonly6082 7 місяців тому +3

    I gave up on data fight 2. Granted, I was on Critical and I had been playing only KH3 for about 2 months

  • @TaliesinMyrddin
    @TaliesinMyrddin 7 місяців тому +1

    Honestly, I don't like that important series lore was behind a super hard boss rush challenge. I'm glad they had the one-hit kill modes, but it would've been nice to just have a more "in line with the normal fights" difficulty. I like a bit of challenge, just not a huge one.
    When streaming for a friend I turned one-hit kill on just to show them the Yozora stuff. When playing on my own I cleared, I think, eight of the fights before deciding I'd had enough.

  • @LegoBrick5985
    @LegoBrick5985 7 місяців тому +6

    Its a great day for a TGN video

  • @degenerategamingCi
    @degenerategamingCi 7 місяців тому +2

    I may be crazy, but wasn’t there also a review of the D23 2015(?) trailer where two of the IGN members made a theory that one of the gate things on Olympus’ mountain would act as a portal to the other Disney worlds? Please, I someone confirm whether it was a fever dream or not, because I’ve been thinking about this for a long time.

  • @somekami3375
    @somekami3375 7 місяців тому +1

    Dear god TheGamersJoint 2015 jumpscare-

  • @TheLanydx
    @TheLanydx 7 місяців тому +3

    Sonic fan: First time?

  • @lolbackmountain
    @lolbackmountain 7 місяців тому +1

    KH2 prologue is my personal most beloved intro to a game ever 🥹

  • @PikminandOatchi
    @PikminandOatchi 7 місяців тому

    The problem with the first guy was using words like "nobody" as if he's speaking for everyone.

  • @spyjoe12
    @spyjoe12 7 місяців тому +2

    IGN needs to hire our boy right here & he can do the reporting and explaining instead

  • @MakoTenseii
    @MakoTenseii 7 місяців тому

    This gave me such mad deja vu. I remember you making all those old dunk videos on ign still

  • @Asterisk_VL
    @Asterisk_VL 7 місяців тому +5

    Hi Jared hope ur doing good

  • @gagejoseph91
    @gagejoseph91 7 місяців тому +3

    I would love some "Certified IGNorant Moment" clip of some kind. Do your usual chaotic-neutral schtick, bring out the flashing lights, and baste that turkey on the dance floor.

  • @OneGamer2EnvyThemAll
    @OneGamer2EnvyThemAll 7 місяців тому

    It's genuinely impressive on IGN's part to achieve this during a dry period for KH news.

  • @saberbladefang250
    @saberbladefang250 7 місяців тому +1

    1:14 oh now I remember this IGN reporter guy is anti Roxas.

  • @Chrno34
    @Chrno34 7 місяців тому +6

    IGN and Gamespot are both garbage as journalists and reviewers, so it isn't a surprise.

  • @JP-1990
    @JP-1990 7 місяців тому

    "Why do you send us your shittiest journalists?"
    "Because you are my strongest fan base."

  • @AllThatJazz94
    @AllThatJazz94 7 місяців тому +1

    Bro, what is that on your screen back there?? 😂

  • @somedudewatchintv5297
    @somedudewatchintv5297 7 місяців тому

    There were? I don't think I realized the easy codes were that powerful. Probably because I was going for the trophies and it told me I wasn't allowed to use them or something.

  • @lunarkrueger3341
    @lunarkrueger3341 7 місяців тому +1

    I never really listened to IGN after the Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire. They complained about the game having too much water. Which is weird.
    Most review sites wont agree with the fan base. Its the same with audience scores vs rotten tomatoes. The Mario movie was a great explain. The fans loved it but critics hated it.
    Moral of this story is I ignore sites like IGN.

  • @vanitasxvii
    @vanitasxvii 7 місяців тому +1

    Honestly i never went to ppl that promote a game or ign type of source i would go to twitch and ask streamers what there opinion is abt the game

  • @ZacharyShow
    @ZacharyShow 7 місяців тому

    You mean to tell me that IGN pronounced Xenomorph and Elijah's names wrong.

  • @_SYDGAMING_
    @_SYDGAMING_ 7 місяців тому +1

    Its not just Kingdom hearts. We all remember that sonic frontiers gameplay they showed off. Bro couldn't even playa sonic game let alone a kingdom hearts game

  • @gabrielsantana113
    @gabrielsantana113 7 місяців тому

    Their mispellings also appeared in a Xenoblade review. They can't get any names right.

  • @DigiBrad
    @DigiBrad 7 місяців тому +1

    Ah F*ck the baby face. Man what a throwback. How far you've come and it's a bit reality shattering how long ago that was and how long I've been following this channel😅

  • @luiscamilororera159
    @luiscamilororera159 7 місяців тому +1

    Oh jeez I don't Know Did Happen With Kh4 That For Review Are So Awful.

  • @Reseaux1
    @Reseaux1 7 місяців тому

    How can he just diss Roxas like that?!?

  • @daedricdove6012
    @daedricdove6012 7 місяців тому +2

    To be fair Jared, you don't get EZ codes until after you beat Yozora lmao

    • @hanakoisbestgirl4752
      @hanakoisbestgirl4752 7 місяців тому +1

      I think you also get them for a new game/new game+ do you not?

  • @LeBlonQ
    @LeBlonQ 7 місяців тому

    I laughed every time the donald scream came up to censor the curses

  • @asakurawhyte4320
    @asakurawhyte4320 7 місяців тому

    I finished Yozora on Hard, but couldn't on Critical, still satisfied.

  • @mateusterry
    @mateusterry 7 місяців тому +2

    I never once trusted IGN with KH news and I never will, nothing but horrible takes and nonsense

  • @Anzure
    @Anzure 7 місяців тому

    ahhh yes how much did I miss the twisting my nipples comment, keep saying it I laughed so hard while I was eating LMAO.

  • @b00g3rs21
    @b00g3rs21 7 місяців тому +1

    IGN's weirdness with KH is hilarious to me. It's like they've fostered a toxic, anti-KH culture there but they still have to report on it because it's a huge franchise.

  • @jettthewolf887
    @jettthewolf887 7 місяців тому +1

    IGN has always been a terrible source for gaming news, but they always feel fake as hell when it comes to anything related to Kingdom Hearts, and it really bothers me. And the thing is, I don't care if people have a different opinion about something; it's just when that opinion is based on ignorance vs. understanding. Like obviously, I dont give a shit if someone doesn't like Roxas, but to say he is a trash character that nobody gives a shit about is just.... not true. Hes an insanely popular character and one of the most important ones in the entire series.

  • @danisle4379
    @danisle4379 7 місяців тому

    IGN really just needs to hire you, Prodigy and HMK for KH related reviews.

  • @ironkeysora
    @ironkeysora 7 місяців тому

    I was thinking the same exact thing like hire me ign I'll break the curse

  • @Official_MikeyT
    @Official_MikeyT 7 місяців тому

    The dude who called Roxas a "garbage character" looks like the wish version of NicoB.

  • @Gehrich_
    @Gehrich_ 7 місяців тому

    I had no idea about any of this, but I'm not surprised. Every time I see an IGN review for an action RPG they say the combat system is just like the "mindless button mashing of Dynasty Warriors," leaving me frustrated at both the extraordinarily wrong comparison and the professing their ignorance on the fundamentals of any combat system as fact.

  • @BashxSaiyan
    @BashxSaiyan 7 місяців тому

    We understand even before this that IGN puts ZERO effort in when it comes to the KH series, but how are they with other games that aren't COD??

  • @Icarus975
    @Icarus975 7 місяців тому

    Crazy to think it’s been a full decade / 10 years since Kingdom Hearts 2.5 PS3 came out

  • @RandomShinigami7
    @RandomShinigami7 7 місяців тому

    I think I posted this comment on a previous video of yours, but it's worth repeating.
    I remember back when KH3 was nearing release and their Xbox Podcast brought on someone from their team who was specifically there to talk about Kingdom Hearts and get their audience hyped for the game (remember KH3 was the first in the series to come to Xbox). At one point she says "I didn't even play the spin-off games, I just wanted KH3". So in other words, one of their "experts" skipped most of the series. And that right there told me everything I needed to know about IGN's Kingdom Hearts coverage. Now obviously that's just one individual, I'm sure they actually do have people who could talk in depth about the series. But if you're going to put people forward as an expert on a series, and they admit they skipped most of it, then they're not really an expert are they?

  • @OmegaChase1002
    @OmegaChase1002 7 місяців тому

    remember when they called dream drop distance hd "kh3"?

  • @OmegaChase1002
    @OmegaChase1002 7 місяців тому +1

    they do the same garbage with sonic too.

  • @theycallmemrfig5957
    @theycallmemrfig5957 7 місяців тому +1

    I’ll never really get over “Xenanorn and Eraquise” they… couldn’t look up videos for pronunciation? Or read the names phonetically? Like, yeah, maybe just don’t talk about Kingdom Hearts if you don’t care enough to cover it. 😂

  • @blkalchemist5645
    @blkalchemist5645 7 місяців тому

    I recently finally bought the remixes for a 3rd time on PC now and have been on the KH kick and chatting about it with friends and telling them about how bad IGN is with the series and you happen to post this the same day. It's like it was already written... May your hearts be your guiding key.

  • @saltyishere9152
    @saltyishere9152 7 місяців тому

    It's not even that he didn't finish the game that bothers me it's that he said the hardest part of the game was too hard...THE GAME LITERALLY GIVES YOU CHEATCODES FOR THAT REASON LMAO

  • @yat282
    @yat282 7 місяців тому

    I think it's fair to review the dlc without finishing it, since the reason that he couldn't finish it was that it was exponentially harder than the base game. That's actually really good information for readers/viewers of the review to know.

  • @Stupranos
    @Stupranos 7 місяців тому

    Johnathon is no longer at IGN he’s at Naughty Dog now.

  • @_Chessa_
    @_Chessa_ 7 місяців тому

    2007 child me said the same thing about Roxas in the beginning when playing KH2 when I was wanting to see Sora, who I loved as a kid. I’m like where TF is my boy, Sora?
    I was so confused and had ADHD. I cried in the beginning of KH2. lol then I remember liking Roxas more as the game carried on. But I remember that first hour of crying alone in my room and playing KH2 was so hard for me but I managed after a while. I was so bad at gaming back then.
    Also, didn’t play the other games that I should have and couldn’t purchase the other games as a child because they didn’t advertise them well and I wasn’t even aware of their existence because of this.

  • @wavedmax4136
    @wavedmax4136 7 місяців тому

    Aaah yes, the never ending memefest: Kingdom Hearts x IGN!!!
    Reconnect kIGNdom Hearts!!!

  • @Nix_Abyss
    @Nix_Abyss 7 місяців тому

    What do we expect from a company that accepts money for review scores

  • @kringhetto
    @kringhetto 7 місяців тому +6

    Zenahort

    • @NicolasMendoula
      @NicolasMendoula 7 місяців тому +1

      Zygbar, LarZene,
      SaïZ, Zezion, Zaldin, Azel, VeZen, MarluZia, Zemnas, Lezaeus, Demyz, Luzord, Rozas and Zion. They seek Kingdom Hearts in the OrganiZation ZIII. And Master Zehanorts wants to forge the Z-Blade.

    • @SSlash
      @SSlash 7 місяців тому +2

      That shit still lives rent free

  • @keonharris1934
    @keonharris1934 7 місяців тому +1

    Them data bosses was hard though 😂😂😂😂

  • @CutoverMe
    @CutoverMe 7 місяців тому

    2:49 hearing the names pronounced like that. Has the same effect on me as when i hear people pronounce Ninja Gaiden as Ninja GAYden. Its wrong!!!

  • @PrincessChristine26
    @PrincessChristine26 7 місяців тому +1

    They should hire the kh community to cover kh at this point

    • @Sushipapi.
      @Sushipapi. 7 місяців тому

      Great idea but I could see that being a double edged sword.

  • @stephanieking8299
    @stephanieking8299 7 місяців тому

    Good old Xenonort and Eraqueese, my favorite duo in KH.

  • @dgc1570
    @dgc1570 6 місяців тому

    Wait, do the easy codes actually work for the data battles?

  • @somedudewatchintv5297
    @somedudewatchintv5297 7 місяців тому

    Why do people pay attention to their reviews? I always hear people complain about them but people keep going back for some reason.

  • @rabaaquest5787
    @rabaaquest5787 7 місяців тому +1

    I thought IGN was bad at reporting video games in general.

  • @thatkingdomheartsguy9615
    @thatkingdomheartsguy9615 7 місяців тому

    Not finishing a game is something that Game Reviewers do. They struggle at a slightly difficult fight and instead of getting good they will give up and complain that the game is too hard.

  • @WhoNeedsNormal
    @WhoNeedsNormal 7 місяців тому

    Dornbush isn't with IGN anymore. Hasn't been for a while now.

  • @Redzeths
    @Redzeths 7 місяців тому

    I thought EZ codes only unlocked after Yozora?

  • @Deltabolster
    @Deltabolster 7 місяців тому

    i havent done any data fiights. i consider my playthrough of the DLC beaten

  • @roperaustraman4445
    @roperaustraman4445 7 місяців тому

    I used to really like the IGN podcasts, and still like a few but Brian definitely doesn’t know much about KH and he admits that. What used to drive me crazy is when Dornbush was there and was there “KH expert” there but got a ton of things about it wrong often on podcasts.

  • @dust.runner
    @dust.runner 7 місяців тому

    The "kh 4" image and Eraqeez had me cackling.
    As much as it is like, opinion pieces, mistakes, lack of manpower when it comes to covering everything fully within a marketable timeframe, it does matter.
    Because when you are a gaming news source, the goodwill and trust of the fans of said games you are covering is probably the most important thing you need to have. There are other fanbases they have had this happen with too I think.
    I'm not gonna place all the blame directly on the IGN reporters assigned to articles/reviews/posts, though, I do feel bad, a lot of them probably stepped onto landmines that tanked their credibility because they were assigned to report on things they weren't really familiar with or not being given enough time/resources, stuff outside of their control, yada yada.

  • @otaking3582
    @otaking3582 7 місяців тому

    I continue to question how IGN are still in business

  • @EverythingEverr
    @EverythingEverr 7 місяців тому

    so I can't help but notice the CoM card earring you got on there 👀where'dja get it, if you don't mind my asking?

  • @kvmehaus
    @kvmehaus 7 місяців тому

    Oh my god you were a baby!!!! I forgot that we were all young once lmfao

  • @O_Ciel_Phant0mhive
    @O_Ciel_Phant0mhive 7 місяців тому

    Please hire this dude. You’ve been my KH news source for a while now lol

  • @AEthatsit
    @AEthatsit 7 місяців тому

    I don’t even bother to follow ign on any sites. I’d much rather watch UA-camrs report on game news. You all are actually more credible at this point.

  • @KnowahVibe
    @KnowahVibe 7 місяців тому

    How do I get that wallpaper for your mini tv in the background?