Ban her for LIFE!!!! She apparently hit that horse 24 times in the video, she should NEVER work with horses again. :Lounge whips are NOT used like that during training and she knew that.
Those who took the video and did nothing to 2+ years till suddenly before the olympics to get her banned from competition should also never be around or work with horses either. They are just as complicit in the "supposed" abuse also IMO. Why wait to report for 2-4 years of the abuse instead of right away when it happened? There is something else going on, payback, revenge, ???? from someone. I hope that part is investigated just as much as the alleged abuse.
NO NO NO,absolutely disgusting by both trainor and pupil.if anyone did this to my horse even if it was someone I admired i would have withdrawn from the session immediately. BOTH are to blame.
She’s far too comfortable using that whip like that. I don’t believe for a minute she’s not done this before. Thats not schooling. Its abuse. Clear as daylight. She’s only apologised because this video has come out. It’s shocking. The rider should t have allowed this and the person visiting it can be heard laughing. The whole thing from top to bottom is disgraceful! An error in judgement?? More like more than 25 errors in judgement in less than a minute. She’s a glorified animal abuser. I’m disgusted with her.
@@Timekeeper1200 believe me. I am livid and pissed off and I don't think there's anything right about it 😡 I believe it's systemic animal abuse within the sport and many others equestrian sports and it should be banned entirely.
This is absolutely WRONG!!!! She… or anyone that is abusive to horses… or any animal, should be dealing with consequences. There is obviously a problem with those involved with sports, abusing an innocent horse. This is absolutely unexceptable !!!! 😠
Poor, poor horse - how cruel. The control, dominance and abuse of animals in sport by human beings is sickening - humans can choose whether to enter a particular sport or not but we dont give animals the same choice or dignity.
Not at all. There have been a number of whistleblowers lately in the world of Dressage; the Helgstrande footage was appalling. Dressage has become a farce and a disgrace. An overhaul is sorely needed along with zero tolerance regulations. This used to be about partnership, harmony and relaxation. I can’t believe the FEI hasn’t woken up yet.
@@spellywelly It has become all about business. A worldwide billion dollar industry is at stake. Guess that is why. I am pretty sure it is not only dressage, but also showjumping, eventing and anything else under the Olympic umbrella.
You could clearly see the horse was not enjoying that or even tolerating it... AND she literally pursued it in an attempt to hit it, what looked like even harder. Sick.
Yes the horse is kicking out as it's obviously way too hard and hurting/stinging him. Surely if she loved these horses she wouldn't want to hurt them in any way. It's very sad and very wrong to treat them this way.
This poor horse is ruined for life. It learned absolutely nothing in this lesson. And I bet this so-called training lesson cost a fortune for this rider.
@@josephgreen8008 Yes. I train them daily. What do you think was the lesson she taught this horse? What will this horse take away from this session? I'll tell you: don't trust people, don't trust a whip, don't trust a person with a whip approaching you, etc. It will take time to re-gain this animals trust and not fear the whip. Maybe it's not ruined for life, but it's 100% a set-back.
I totally agree ! If this is a clip of her beating this horse I think she has likely done it before and Hidden it. Force her to get mental health help! I am an RN and it needs to be addressed!!! 😢
Having been a dressage rider, and having worked for top dressage riders, I can assure you , that this person would have considered the backlash had they come forward at the time. These people with loads of money and power, and there are books written about them and their power, would have scared this individual, as I am sure that they wanted to come forward. I feel that this if timely, as her legal advice has proven, Dujardin is just another one of these trainers that want early results. They don’t give a damn about the horse. They buy horses for hundred’s of thousands of dollars. Not all are bad, but when they get up there, they want to stay up there. I feel that her previous awards should be revolked, and that she never be able to train, or compete ever again. Her Mentor Carl Hester must be devastated, as I recall attending one of his clinic’s and how he trains young horses. He is patient and has a program where the horses are not over worked and enjoy a lot of time in turn out. This is a complete disgrace, and it should be addressed and she should be ashamed.
What I don't understand though is that Carl Hester (who I like) is apparently someone who treats his horses very well. He must surely have witnessed her unacceptable treatment of horses, she seems very nonchalant about whipping the horse, so I'm pretty sure it's far from the first time she's done this. If he's turned a blind eye to this sort of cruelty, I'm very disappointed that he's not the person I thought he was.
I am a keeper of equines - I have four donkeys - and I have a profound respect for their sensitivity and intelligence. If I treated them as appallingly as this "professional" horsewoman, I would expect to be prosecuted and have my animals removed. She should not be allowed to keep equines again until she has undergone some sort of RSPCA education course about animal suffering. After watching this video - which is utterly sickening - I wouldn't trust this woman to keep a hamster without causing it distress.
@@tessdurberville711 If anyone can teach a hamster dressage, the last person would be Charlotte Dujardin, as the whipped hamster would end up a quivering wreck in the corner of the training hangar. You get the best out of your animals by winning trust, quietly encouraging them, as we all know!
Watching that it is obvious to me that this is normal behaviour for her. Making out that this was a one off is insulting our intelligence. Charges should be brought against her . She went home each night thinking she was a good person. Disgusting
Totally agree far too practised and nonchalant to be anything other than habitual behaviour. The only thing I will say is people are delusional to think that dressage as a sport doesn't rely on this disgusting level of mistreatment as a matter of course. Those horses don't get that precise and disciplined naturally, or from some kindly encouraging words. People have their heads in the sand if it takes a video to make the penny drop.
As long as the FEI doesn't start seriously punishing behaviour like this, it will continue. What did that guy last year get, after it had been proven that he constantly abused the horses under his care? A two year starting ban... Well, how about a life time ban, all trainer licences revoked permanently, any students taking lessons from them facing the same consequences, and any horse in which the abuser had any part in training or breeding never getting a FEI registration. In other words - remove those abusers from any possibility to partake in professionel riding. Even this will probably not prevent horrors like that from happening 100%, but it will at least decrease it significantly. And no, I don't believe that this was a once only incident with Dujardin. Just the only one, so far, that there is proof of.
So tragic!! She is a very cruel human being! I’m so sorry for horses and animals that have no choice but to be subjected to harm. Thank goodness her cruelty has been exposed. Perhaps others will realize their own harmful and cruel treatment..:wishful thinking.
Disgusting! Why would someone of her caliber think that beating the horse was the best way to teach the animal something? Whipping has never, ever a place in horse training. She, of all people, should know better.
The poor girl riding was apparently in tears and even told not to complain because Charlotte is an Olympian and it would upset too many people. I don't think she is to blame at all in this scenario
Do you know, as a huge horse racing fan, for years I've always found myself annoyed by the animal rights protestors etc thinking they are overthinking the treatment of horses........ but having seen Gordon Elliot using a dead horse as an armchair, and now this animal beating a horse in this way, I'm beginning to wonder if there is a whole lot more of this going on in plain sight. I feel like I'm more 50/50 now than I've ever been in listening more to these animals cruelty groups , because those beautiful creatures give these people their living
@@davidpearson6785 this probably means nothing to you (but I am a fellow red) but my issue with race horsing is the fact that yeah they're raised brilliantly, until they're no longer a cash cow, then they're discarded away, like the race dogs! I'm an animal lover, but for example I don't believe in this positive only reinforcement rubbish for dog training, I do believe in corrections, prong and E collars, they have a place and a purpose on the right dog, like my cane Corso X bullmastiff.
@@JustBens thank you. Like I say I love the sport so much, but if the elitest of the elite are doing this, then just how deep is the problem really. It saddens me but it might just be true that this is a lot more commonplace than we would care to admit
@@jhaych again, can't disagree with you either as I know of many ex racing greyhounds for example that are just quite literally thrown away when they no longer serve a purpose. In horse racing, it definitely doesn't apply to everyone there are genuinely some amazing owners, trainers, jockeys etc we have to believe that. But it's making me lose my love of the sport when you see more things like this. I know this is equestrian as opposed to horse racing but it's still linked. What hurts the most there, is if that's our number one Olympian doing that.......then what the hell is really going on in stables up and down the country. I feel bad offending any people out there who really do love and care for their horses as I'm sure a huge percentage will do so I'm in the middle
David I feel the same. Love my racing because of these beautiful animals but I'm 50/50. I also have horses and if I could I would ban whips. It wouldn't stop Ryan Moore Buick Murphy and the horseman jockeys from winning but it would help the younger ones to become better riders. Whatever all horsesports are under the watch of the public and this doesn't help any of them. Great comment David
Charlotte is saying it was 4 years ago, the whistleblower's lawyer is saying 2.5 years ago. This should be easy to confirm. Is Charlotte thinking of another incident when she hit a horse?
There is such a thing as a nervous laughter. People often laugh stupidly when they feel awkward or want to dissipate tension. The laughter makes it feel ok. A stupid he he heee when they don't know any better and in this situation, their hero is doing something they don't know how to react to appropriately. Perhaps they are very young? The rider was said to be 15.
The girl on the horse is 15, the woman filming isn't 15. She laughs a number of times on the full video, the pitch and tone of the laugh is in accordance with the tone and pitch of voice in the conversation she is having whilst filming. No offence intended, but nervous laughter is an involuntary reaction, where as this laughter is coordinated with the action on numerous occasions during the full video, and is from the adult who filmed it, not the 15 year old riding.
Thank you for clarifying. I thought it was CD laughing cause there was some interaction between her and the student and it sort of fitted in between their conversation. Would have like to hear what they said though
@@annemariegutteridge4696 In the full video with audio only, she laughs 3 times and then talks about how this is to help with her riding the outside lane. Some more laughing and more chat of the same subject, it's not an amusing protracted conversation, nor is there any pun. In my opinion, this videos been released due to a personal falling out. If you've ever filmed a video, you know the difference between the voice of the person holding the camera and those they are talking to. CDs voice is loud/but echoed as she's in open room, the person recording has the microphone closest, as you will notice the difference in acoustics. There should be a lifetime ban for CD, but the person filming clearly wants distressed or nervously laughing. Fall outs over money, business, relationships or jealousy are normally when footage gets released, but this behaviour gives a bad look for everyone in the industry and clearly isn't a one off
We have to be grateful to the Dutch lawyer for that fantastic timing unwraping cruel practices considered as normal in Olympic games. In which wicked world are we living! Horses are so sensitive, intelligent and fearful! I cannot imagine the mental agony that poor animal is going trough beaten like that ! No gentle tickling here. The reporter is trying to diminish the cruel impact in admitting that others ... did it too! My eye! Ms. Dujardin is now kaput for life no juicy sponsorships payin' for the manor!
Does not matter when and why only now. Horses shd never be trained like this. It is unacceptable to train like this. It was released now for greater impact. Welfare of horses is paramount at all times
the horse whinces and flinches each time she hits him. I have no experience with horses but this video is very painful to watch. She received accolades, prestige, and monetary benefit from these horses, these horses should have been like her kids. I don't even know how she can do something like this.
What angers me is that people call out blatant abuse like hitting hard with a whip, and yes that is a good thing to call that out but there's more "subtle" forms of cruelty to horses that is far too normalised... Like the use of harsh bits and horses heads being pulled behind the vertical almost rollkur like, the extreme frothiness from the mouth is NOT a good thing. If FEI truly cared they would penalise that, and ALLOW bitless and bridleless to be an OPTION... FEI doesn't really care, they just care about how they look because everyone can see blatant abuse such as what Charlotte has done.
The rider had booked a training week with Charlotte, and as a youngster she believed that the training was normal after all she was being coached by the best rider in the world. It was only when she was grooming said horse that he was averse to having his back legs touched, this had never happened with him before the whipping training lesson. She then realised that something was not right. In the video you can clearly see the horse kicking out and reacting against the whip abuse.
whips today do not hurt, they break very easy just sound loud. they braeak just swinging them. Not condoning fear training but people should actually see how whips are not like whips people imagine.
The fact she's putting a lot of effort into swinging the whip is concerning in it self, she deserves to be banned indefinitely from teaching, training and competitions. 5:59
Timing is not the issue, the whipping is the issue, it's disappointing that the timing is discussed, it is not changing the abuse an tehrefore irrelevant.
This high-profile situation provides an open window to finally address what kind and compassionate partnership with horses -- across all disciplines -- means and is implemented ---Race Horses; Gaited Horses; Hunters and Jumpers; and Rodeo, to name but a few. The abuse of horses Must Stop! 🐎❤
First she says it was an error of judgement and then says she is ashamed. Which is it. If they are taking this seriously why is she not being procescuted. She says it doesn't reflect how she trains her horses when it clearly shows that .
Now I have got to see the actual footage the person doing the whipping on Charlotte Dujardin's behalf was in an invidious position, knowing that what she was doing was wrong but clearly following Dujardin's instructions. In that context Dujardin was not only abusing the horse. She was also abusing her assistant.
no no no. She whips that horse like it's normal and the horse was NOT surprised at being hit. This is a routine for them. She needs to be banned from horses . That poor horse and any others she treated like this have all my sympathy.
Dressage is an amazing training system that lengthens the life and health of a horse when done properly. Unfortunately many career competitive riders and trainers are driven with winning at all cost and do not have the soul of a true horseman. Always thought this women was driven by the "prize" and not the pursuit of good training and horsemanship. Not for nothing she was nicknamed Edwina scissor hands. Sorry for the horse.
It is such a shame, because this puts such a bad light on the sport. It makes people think that everyone in this sport does this. It sets such a bad example to the younger generation of the equestian community, that to get to her level means doing this. In my opinion, to get to this level of aggression requires a serious state of fear of harm from the horse, but even that is too much. Honestly disgraceful.
@bristolguy45 the thing is, the correct way to use it, is as a communication tool. You should use it as gently on a horse as you could on a human. You shouldn't ever be pulling back to get momentum. Think touch rather than hit. A whip like this is a flexible stick with a little bit of string on the end. The whip should be held in such a way the string tickles the horse, or moves around behind them to make a swishing sound. You could use a rope to swing around if you were herding horses (say bringing a bunch in from a field) but you use it to make yourself bigger, you might let it fall on a horse but it's the force of gravity that moves it, so it falls on them rather than strikes them. You have a jumping crop, which is the short one you might have in your mind from... non equestrian activities between consenting adults... that one you might use more firmly in front of your leg when riding, but you don't pull back first, and you could tap your own leg as hard as you'd tap the horse. You hold it along with the reins and only use a slight movement of the wrist.
@@anamazingorange2286 exactly, couldn't have said it better myself. There is such stigmatism of abuse within the industry where much of usage of tools are moderated, it is just the instances of abuse (and I'm not saying they are rare because they do happen and it's awful) that come to the forefront and are seen to represent the sport as a whole
It's obviously she's very comfortable in the practice of abusing her horses. Otherwise, she wouldn't have been so bold to do this in public. The horse has NO idea why he's being randomly whipped. Is it a show of power and control on Charlotte's part? To induce fear in the animal? I think that she forgets she owes these magnificent animals a debt of gratitude as she'd be nothing without them-no gold medals, world championships and a fantastic lifestyle. Think about that, Charlotte. So sorry her horse(s) have had to endure this abusive behaviour❤
The timing is crucial, it's a deliberate act to bring Team GB into disrepute and harm its medal winning chances. How much money changed hands for this ?
Let me add here. This horse abuse will not end until people wake up and except it for what it really is. I mean she even went as far as to use both hands on with this lead whip to beat this horse. To put more force behind hitting this horse. That's not what there used for plain and simple. This shows this is something she does on again a regular basis. And the the other rider , his horse was bleeding from the mouth. That doesn't happen unless your hurting your horse. And that shouldn't have happened. Get real here. It's plain out horse abuse their using on these horses. You can't make excuses and call it anything other than what it is. It's Horse Abuse. Horse's are very intelligent animals. As well they have feelings as as you are I. Please take everything I've said into consideration. Go talk to good horse owners. Get the actual facts from them as to whether or not this is horse abuse. And I'm not talking about these professionals either. Because they'll just take up for one another. It's absolutely horse abuse.
I have started & taught to be ridden many kinds of horses, Thoroughbreds, Belgians feral horses of the BLM, Arabians etc. I have NEVER used whips , spurs or any kind of electric device on them. Our current Thoroughbred farm sire who is of Seattle Slew / Northern Dancer lines we ride with a bit-less bridle. We started him with a halter & lead rope. He is 17 hands of tremendous strength & power. Has some speed too. In our 40+ years of experience he was the most challenging horse to teach to ride. We used natural methods of handling him.
It’s a shame that it takes social media outrage for the FEI to take action!!! It shouldn’t take the public outrage to be so great that you are forced to take action to save face!!!! Do your job!!!
This wasn't a first time thing for her. She's actually far to comfortable using this method on this horse. As a owner of horses. I know actually what I'm looking at. This action actually proves she does this on a regular basis. And the statement she made. Reread it. No its not an apology ! She actually never actually apologized not once in her statement ! Wake up people. This has been going on for a very long time. And not just with her. It's time for everyone to take responsibility in this and own of to the abuse taking place with these horses. No disrespect intended towards this channel.
As a horse trainer, this person belongs nowhere near horses, clearly abuse is NEVER acceptable. However, ignorant and cruel people that do not understand that Dressage is supposed to be an art form in demonstrating the expressive forms of a horse in perfect collection and balance. How appalling that such a parody of ignorant abuse could even reach to Olympian levels... clearly judges are lacking in judgement between a horse being comfortable and well trained/fit in performing and one that is trained through force!!! How many horses had this abject person abused in her 'career'?!!!!
We had a neighbor who trained horses, she never ever used a whip. She had a small flexible pole (kind of like the end of a fishing rod) and she merely touched or tickled the horse with the tip of it. She and her horses won a lot of ribbons and trophies.
I love this news coming out, don’t love that everyone assumes this is how horses are trained and are grounds for banning the sport. The sport should be banned based off of the fact that corruption happens at elite international levels. A prize so great, all depending on the animal. Look at how these elite riders get a slap on the wrist from the FEI. These abusers will get elite competition banned because it’s simply too easy to get away with these abusive tactics. I’m so sick of this.
Lol schooling whip... its used for tickling. I mean come on, who are they trying to kid? Why even entertain that complete BS the fact that it is even a known thing tells you everything you need to know about the whole sport. It's a whip. It is like Ronseal, does what it says on the tin...
Timing doesnt matter. The fact is she did it 2.5 years ago. In front of people. She didnt quit after one episode. And this is not the first time she did it. And many others have witnessed it. Be grateful it came out. Perhaps the videographer is a young girl. Possibly scared.
I agree why did it take so long for this video to come to light. How long has she been abusing horses and what happened to that particular horse. I hate the way these dressage horses are treated anyway. The painful pressure on their mouths and poles is atrocious. Dressage is supposed to be beautiful . This is not.
The footage is too short to tell what's going on. A 3rd person(the rider) has to speak up and tell us what the situation was. There must be a huge misunderstanding about that video. I mean, it could've been the rider had to compete in a few days, and the horse was being stubborn? Or Something........ she is a top-level rider. There is no reason for her to abuse the horses as she will know better that that is not the way to get top results. Unless she tortures for pleasure. That's the only reasonable abusive reason I can imagine for her 😮.
What shocks me the most that this video was only released to stop Charlotte from participating in the Olympics. The person who withheld the video is as bad as the people who beat their horses.
Dujardin said the incident “does not reflect how I train my horses or coach my pupils," What a lie since this the video shows how you actually train your horses and work with your riders. What gets me is the person laughing while they're filming. Who is this person?
Can we please start taking animal abuse more seriously if you abuse an animal you shouldn’t be allowed to have an animal again. She shouldn’t be allowed to compete again let alone ride or keep an animal again. We need to treat animals with respect.
Everybody is forgetting that she was a young girl ,and taken under Carl Hester he tought her everything she knows so she was obviously been taught that , she was young in that video .Carl at the beginning was proud off how she has come along at the start of her career.
This is not the first and singular case of animal abuse in professional equestrianism. There NEED to be stricter restrictions apart from checking the horse at place of competition, it is not helping if the horses get mistreated behind closed doors. There needs to be mandatory tracking of all training sessions
Looks like she is angry. And just whipping the horse..even the horse is kicking back. I believe you just give them a little tick to keep engaged but not that way and I hope other big trainers do not do it..maybe?
@@inoel75 Paris olympics 2024 Brazilian Carlos Parro on camera hyperflexing his horse...just gets a warning. That is a de facto free pass for this 'banned' behavior. If FEI were serious about banning rollkur, he should be expelled. If he did it on camera what does he do off camera.
So the only reason the horse is able to preform is because its scared of a beating. Thats not down to any real skill from her then. All medals should be revoked
If someone is cruel to an animal they are banned from having animals. She shouldn't be allowed to get back on a horse..
What about banned from society? Clearly a power abuser
I agree. It seems like she enjoyed whipping the horse! She’s Cruel.
AMEN!!! Agreed!!!
If the horse won't quit rubbing the wall both the horse and rider can end up mangled.
You people are ignorant..
@@mdfroman2235 then don't ride the horse.... If you have to be cruel to do the sport, get rid of the sport.
Ban her for LIFE!!!! She apparently hit that horse 24 times in the video, she should NEVER work with horses again. :Lounge whips are NOT used like that during training and she knew that.
Those who took the video and did nothing to 2+ years till suddenly before the olympics to get her banned from competition should also never be around or work with horses either. They are just as complicit in the "supposed" abuse also IMO. Why wait to report for 2-4 years of the abuse instead of right away when it happened? There is something else going on, payback, revenge, ???? from someone. I hope that part is investigated just as much as the alleged abuse.
NO NO NO,absolutely disgusting by both trainor and pupil.if anyone did this to my horse even if it was someone I admired i would have withdrawn from the session immediately. BOTH are to blame.
This is definitely NOT a one-off. She's ashamed that she got caught, NOT for mistreating a horse
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I never even touched my horses with a lunge whip. This is grotesque. You never have to hit a horse about anything. They want to please you!
She’s far too comfortable using that whip like that. I don’t believe for a minute she’s not done this before. Thats not schooling. Its abuse. Clear as daylight. She’s only apologised because this video has come out. It’s shocking. The rider should t have allowed this and the person visiting it can be heard laughing. The whole thing from top to bottom is disgraceful! An error in judgement?? More like more than 25 errors in judgement in less than a minute. She’s a glorified animal abuser. I’m disgusted with her.
And laughing awkwardly twice😊
She didn't come up out of the box that way. That is learned behavior. Another abuser taught her how to do it.
@@girlcheckThat doesn't make it ok. People (especially adults) know right from wrong.
@@Timekeeper1200 believe me. I am livid and pissed off and I don't think there's anything right about it 😡 I believe it's systemic animal abuse within the sport and many others equestrian sports and it should be banned entirely.
And the rider and people filming don't seem to care? Makes me think its normal
Abuse in the training of horses is common, especially in dressage. Do you really need to ask my opinion? It’s appalling and sickening.
Very common.
This is absolutely WRONG!!!!
She… or anyone that is abusive to horses… or any animal, should be dealing with consequences. There is obviously a problem with those involved with sports, abusing an innocent horse. This is absolutely unexceptable !!!! 😠
VERY SAD,DISTURBING,and SHOCKING.
Shocking. She should not be allowed near a horse.😡😡😡
She would be cruel to ANY ANIMAL, OR CHILD!
Or in society
Lifetime ban for Charlotte Dujardin from animals. Disgusting and disgraceful.
Exactly and on top of that she should also be prosecuted for sheer Animal Cruelty !!!
This woman should go to prison for animal abuse.
Ban from society?
@@blue_red_screenyou can’t ban someone from society…. They meant banning her from animal ownership
@@VelvetvineEquestrain I commented that without reading the comment about prison. That's what I meant
😢 This woman should never be allowed to have anything to do with a horse, Never
I wouldn’t trust her with any animal 😔
Lifetime ban for Charlotte Dujardin from animals.
Poor, poor horse - how cruel. The control, dominance and abuse of animals in sport by human beings is sickening - humans can choose whether to enter a particular sport or not but we dont give animals the same choice or dignity.
And everyone thinks she’s the only one doing it?
This has exposed horse training.
@@melgrant7404 The wrong kind, yes. Training a horse properly takes time. You have to follow the horse, not the other way around.
@@SandraOrtmann1976agree.
Not at all. There have been a number of whistleblowers lately in the world of Dressage; the Helgstrande footage was appalling. Dressage has become a farce and a disgrace. An overhaul is sorely needed along with zero tolerance regulations.
This used to be about partnership, harmony and relaxation. I can’t believe the FEI hasn’t woken up yet.
@@spellywelly It has become all about business. A worldwide billion dollar industry is at stake. Guess that is why. I am pretty sure it is not only dressage, but also showjumping, eventing and anything else under the Olympic umbrella.
You could clearly see the horse was not enjoying that or even tolerating it... AND she literally pursued it in an attempt to hit it, what looked like even harder. Sick.
Yes I noticed that.such a bully.
Having to incite a fear response in an animal for training by any means is not a sport.
Yes the horse is kicking out as it's obviously way too hard and hurting/stinging him. Surely if she loved these horses she wouldn't want to hurt them in any way. It's very sad and very wrong to treat them this way.
This poor horse is ruined for life. It learned absolutely nothing in this lesson. And I bet this so-called training lesson cost a fortune for this rider.
@@susannesoto3512 Do you know anything at all about horses??
@@josephgreen8008 Yes. I train them daily.
What do you think was the lesson she taught this horse? What will this horse take away from this session?
I'll tell you: don't trust people, don't trust a whip, don't trust a person with a whip approaching you, etc. It will take time to re-gain this animals trust and not fear the whip. Maybe it's not ruined for life, but it's 100% a set-back.
@@josephgreen8008obviously far more than you
I'd love to see what went on when she wasn't being recorded. This is terrible. We all know it's much worse.
Exactly
I totally agree ! If this is a clip of her beating this horse I think she has likely done it before and Hidden it. Force her to get mental health help! I am an RN and it needs to be addressed!!! 😢
I think the person videoing did it secretly, hence the giggle.
😠😡🤬 SHOULD BE BANNED FOR LIFE NOT A MONTH FFS😠😡🤬
Having been a dressage rider, and having worked for top dressage riders, I can assure you , that this person would have considered the backlash had they come forward at the time. These people with loads of money and power, and there are books written about them and their power, would have scared this individual, as I am sure that they wanted to come forward. I feel that this if timely, as her legal advice has proven, Dujardin is just another one of these trainers that want early results. They don’t give a damn about the horse. They buy horses for hundred’s of thousands of dollars. Not all are bad, but when they get up there, they want to stay up there. I feel that her previous awards should be revolked, and that she never be able to train, or compete ever again. Her Mentor Carl Hester must be devastated, as I recall attending one of his clinic’s and how he trains young horses. He is patient and has a program where the horses are not over worked and enjoy a lot of time in turn out. This is a complete disgrace, and it should be addressed and she should be ashamed.
Well said! What a shocker. She went from a Queen to a criminal.
Dressage is just sick. There have been multiple incidents in recent years of animal cruelty by dressage riders. It's meant to be a sport.
What I don't understand though is that Carl Hester (who I like) is apparently someone who treats his horses very well. He must surely have witnessed her unacceptable treatment of horses, she seems very nonchalant about whipping the horse, so I'm pretty sure it's far from the first time she's done this. If he's turned a blind eye to this sort of cruelty, I'm very disappointed that he's not the person I thought he was.
@@nicolamarter8587 Thank you.
I am a keeper of equines - I have four donkeys - and I have a profound respect for their sensitivity and intelligence. If I treated them as appallingly as this "professional" horsewoman, I would expect to be prosecuted and have my animals removed. She should not be allowed to keep equines again until she has undergone some sort of RSPCA education course about animal suffering. After watching this video - which is utterly sickening - I wouldn't trust this woman to keep a hamster without causing it distress.
I think you can be assured that no one is going to try to teach a hamster Dressage.
@@tessdurberville711 If anyone can teach a hamster dressage, the last person would be Charlotte Dujardin, as the whipped hamster would end up a quivering wreck in the corner of the training hangar. You get the best out of your animals by winning trust, quietly encouraging them, as we all know!
Watching that it is obvious to me that this is normal behaviour for her. Making out that this was a one off is insulting our intelligence. Charges should be brought against her . She went home each night thinking she was a good person. Disgusting
Totally agree far too practised and nonchalant to be anything other than habitual behaviour. The only thing I will say is people are delusional to think that dressage as a sport doesn't rely on this disgusting level of mistreatment as a matter of course. Those horses don't get that precise and disciplined naturally, or from some kindly encouraging words. People have their heads in the sand if it takes a video to make the penny drop.
@@codemonkeyalpha9057and so it has to stop.
As long as the FEI doesn't start seriously punishing behaviour like this, it will continue.
What did that guy last year get, after it had been proven that he constantly abused the horses under his care? A two year starting ban...
Well, how about a life time ban, all trainer licences revoked permanently, any students taking lessons from them facing the same consequences, and any horse in which the abuser had any part in training or breeding never getting a FEI registration. In other words - remove those abusers from any possibility to partake in professionel riding.
Even this will probably not prevent horrors like that from happening 100%, but it will at least decrease it significantly.
And no, I don't believe that this was a once only incident with Dujardin. Just the only one, so far, that there is proof of.
What a load of bollocks..this is not the first time she's abused horses..she knows exactly what she's doing and she's comfortable doing it
It doesn't matter to me when this video was made. Clear abuse of a horse. The trainer should be banned for life.
So tragic!! She is a very cruel human being! I’m so sorry for horses and animals that have no choice but to be subjected to harm. Thank goodness her cruelty has been exposed. Perhaps others will realize their own harmful and cruel treatment..:wishful thinking.
Poor horse, they are so beautiful animals. What a cruel way to treat the this lovely creature. 😢
Disgusting! Why would someone of her caliber think that beating the horse was the best way to teach the animal something? Whipping has never, ever a place in horse training. She, of all people, should know better.
Achievements in any field does not necessarily mean that person has good morals
@@blue_red_screen Agreed. She's definitely fooled a lot of people. I never liked her. I saw her live at a clinic once, and I was not impressed.
@susannesoto3512 it's a problem in society all over the world. People look up to accomplished people and ignore any toxic behaviour
Shes clearly not of a high calibre!!
@@rowannestripe2964 It looks that way. 😓
Rider also has a responsibility towards the horse
I ride own and train, but never ever, I'm sick 🐎😭💔😤😫😩 5:29
The poor girl riding was apparently in tears and even told not to complain because Charlotte is an Olympian and it would upset too many people. I don't think she is to blame at all in this scenario
Who was laughing, sounds like the person who was videoing to me.
@@LisaPitchford oh I haven't actually heard the video with sound
@@ragtagrey5920 sounds awful, no respect for this woman at all now.
Do you know, as a huge horse racing fan, for years I've always found myself annoyed by the animal rights protestors etc thinking they are overthinking the treatment of horses........ but having seen Gordon Elliot using a dead horse as an armchair, and now this animal beating a horse in this way, I'm beginning to wonder if there is a whole lot more of this going on in plain sight. I feel like I'm more 50/50 now than I've ever been in listening more to these animals cruelty groups , because those beautiful creatures give these people their living
Nice to see a rational, balanced and open minded comment. Rare thing on the internet these days my friend.
@@davidpearson6785 this probably means nothing to you (but I am a fellow red) but my issue with race horsing is the fact that yeah they're raised brilliantly, until they're no longer a cash cow, then they're discarded away, like the race dogs! I'm an animal lover, but for example I don't believe in this positive only reinforcement rubbish for dog training, I do believe in corrections, prong and E collars, they have a place and a purpose on the right dog, like my cane Corso X bullmastiff.
@@JustBens thank you. Like I say I love the sport so much, but if the elitest of the elite are doing this, then just how deep is the problem really. It saddens me but it might just be true that this is a lot more commonplace than we would care to admit
@@jhaych again, can't disagree with you either as I know of many ex racing greyhounds for example that are just quite literally thrown away when they no longer serve a purpose. In horse racing, it definitely doesn't apply to everyone there are genuinely some amazing owners, trainers, jockeys etc we have to believe that. But it's making me lose my love of the sport when you see more things like this. I know this is equestrian as opposed to horse racing but it's still linked.
What hurts the most there, is if that's our number one Olympian doing that.......then what the hell is really going on in stables up and down the country. I feel bad offending any people out there who really do love and care for their horses as I'm sure a huge percentage will do so I'm in the middle
David I feel the same. Love my racing because of these beautiful animals but I'm 50/50. I also have horses and if I could I would ban whips. It wouldn't stop Ryan Moore Buick Murphy and the horseman jockeys from winning but it would help the younger ones to become better riders. Whatever all horsesports are under the watch of the public and this doesn't help any of them. Great comment David
Charlotte is saying it was 4 years ago, the whistleblower's lawyer is saying 2.5 years ago. This should be easy to confirm. Is Charlotte thinking of another incident when she hit a horse?
😮 disgusting & disgraceful behaviour 😡😠🤬
Obe? What for? This isnt even a sport. Its animal cruelty.
This woman should go to jail for animal abuse.
@@alistairpop1278 different rules for different people
The person filming can be heard laughing? Lovely bunch
There is such a thing as a nervous laughter. People often laugh stupidly when they feel awkward or want to dissipate tension. The laughter makes it feel ok. A stupid he he heee when they don't know any better and in this situation, their hero is doing something they don't know how to react to appropriately. Perhaps they are very young? The rider was said to be 15.
The girl on the horse is 15, the woman filming isn't 15.
She laughs a number of times on the full video, the pitch and tone of the laugh is in accordance with the tone and pitch of voice in the conversation she is having whilst filming.
No offence intended, but nervous laughter is an involuntary reaction, where as this laughter is coordinated with the action on numerous occasions during the full video, and is from the adult who filmed it, not the 15 year old riding.
Thank you for clarifying. I thought it was CD laughing cause there was some interaction between her and the student and it sort of fitted in between their conversation. Would have like to hear what they said though
@@annemariegutteridge4696
In the full video with audio only, she laughs 3 times and then talks about how this is to help with her riding the outside lane. Some more laughing and more chat of the same subject, it's not an amusing protracted conversation, nor is there any pun.
In my opinion, this videos been released due to a personal falling out.
If you've ever filmed a video, you know the difference between the voice of the person holding the camera and those they are talking to.
CDs voice is loud/but echoed as she's in open room, the person recording has the microphone closest, as you will notice the difference in acoustics.
There should be a lifetime ban for CD, but the person filming clearly wants distressed or nervously laughing.
Fall outs over money, business, relationships or jealousy are normally when footage gets released, but this behaviour gives a bad look for everyone in the industry and clearly isn't a one off
@@ConEmBann thank you
We have to be grateful to the Dutch lawyer for that fantastic timing unwraping cruel practices considered as normal in Olympic games. In which wicked world are we living! Horses are so sensitive, intelligent and fearful! I cannot imagine the mental agony that poor animal is going trough beaten like that ! No gentle tickling here. The reporter is trying to diminish the cruel impact in admitting that others ... did it too! My eye! Ms. Dujardin is now kaput for life no juicy sponsorships payin' for the manor!
Does not matter when and why only now. Horses shd never be trained like this. It is unacceptable to train like this. It was released now for greater impact. Welfare of horses is paramount at all times
the horse whinces and flinches each time she hits him. I have no experience with horses but this video is very painful to watch. She received accolades, prestige, and monetary benefit from these horses, these horses should have been like her kids. I don't even know how she can do something like this.
Hopefully that will stop. Apparently she is afraid to leave her house.
What angers me is that people call out blatant abuse like hitting hard with a whip, and yes that is a good thing to call that out but there's more "subtle" forms of cruelty to horses that is far too normalised... Like the use of harsh bits and horses heads being pulled behind the vertical almost rollkur like, the extreme frothiness from the mouth is NOT a good thing. If FEI truly cared they would penalise that, and ALLOW bitless and bridleless to be an OPTION... FEI doesn't really care, they just care about how they look because everyone can see blatant abuse such as what Charlotte has done.
Absolutely disgusting
I have one question why was the rider not saying anything to Charlotte to stop hitting her horse
She may have been scared of her so was going along with her as she secretly filmed the abuse
The rider had booked a training week with Charlotte, and as a youngster she believed that the training was normal after all she was being coached by the best rider in the world. It was only when she was grooming said horse that he was averse to having his back legs touched, this had never happened with him before the whipping training lesson. She then realised that something was not right. In the video you can clearly see the horse kicking out and reacting against the whip abuse.
And the giggling camera person
@@charmainebrown9404 I totally agree…..NOBODY better ever whip my horse! I will not stand for it!!!
@@michellen1125you sound like a very kind and caring person. Unlike Charlotte.
Now let's ban whips in horseracing ...no one talks bout that!!
I suggest that we just ban whips from any kind of equestrian sport! They have no place there.
Agree.
whips today do not hurt, they break very easy just sound loud. they braeak just swinging them. Not condoning fear training but people should actually see how whips are not like whips people imagine.
I agree with you on that one
@@ratherbwithhorsesrubbish!!!
The fact she's putting a lot of effort into swinging the whip is concerning in it self, she deserves to be banned indefinitely from teaching, training and competitions.
5:59
6 months ban, you must be kidding. Cruelty is terrible regardless of the sport
Timing is not the issue, the whipping is the issue, it's disappointing that the timing is discussed, it is not changing the abuse an tehrefore irrelevant.
This high-profile situation provides an open window to finally address what kind and compassionate partnership with horses -- across all disciplines -- means and is implemented ---Race Horses; Gaited Horses; Hunters and Jumpers; and Rodeo, to name but a few. The abuse of horses Must Stop! 🐎❤
First she says it was an error of judgement and then says she is ashamed. Which is it.
If they are taking this seriously why is she not being procescuted.
She says it doesn't reflect how she trains her horses when it clearly shows that .
She`s only sorry because she was caught!
A lifetime ban should be banned from animals
Now I have got to see the actual footage the person doing the whipping on Charlotte Dujardin's behalf was in an invidious position, knowing that what she was doing was wrong but clearly following Dujardin's instructions. In that context Dujardin was not only abusing the horse. She was also abusing her assistant.
no no no. She whips that horse like it's normal and the horse was NOT surprised at being hit. This is a routine for them. She needs to be banned from horses . That poor horse and any others she treated like this have all my sympathy.
What this has done is to lift the lid on the whole aspect of so called horse training.
She should be banned for life. She isn't welcome with that kind of abuse!!
The person who has taken the video is too blame as well
The person who released it now should be fully investigated by the Police.
Physically ill watching this- absolute cruelty.
Just like the horse racing industry....it is Not about the Love of the horses, it is about using them to become rich and famous.
Dressage is an amazing training system that lengthens the life and health of a horse when done properly. Unfortunately many career competitive riders and trainers are driven with winning at all cost and do not have the soul of a true horseman. Always thought this women was driven by the "prize" and not the pursuit of good training and horsemanship. Not for nothing she was nicknamed Edwina scissor hands. Sorry for the horse.
It is such a shame, because this puts such a bad light on the sport. It makes people think that everyone in this sport does this. It sets such a bad example to the younger generation of the equestian community, that to get to her level means doing this. In my opinion, to get to this level of aggression requires a serious state of fear of harm from the horse, but even that is too much. Honestly disgraceful.
Weird that everyone who trains horses have a very well stocked rack of whips
@bristolguy45 the thing is, the correct way to use it, is as a communication tool. You should use it as gently on a horse as you could on a human. You shouldn't ever be pulling back to get momentum. Think touch rather than hit.
A whip like this is a flexible stick with a little bit of string on the end. The whip should be held in such a way the string tickles the horse, or moves around behind them to make a swishing sound.
You could use a rope to swing around if you were herding horses (say bringing a bunch in from a field) but you use it to make yourself bigger, you might let it fall on a horse but it's the force of gravity that moves it, so it falls on them rather than strikes them.
You have a jumping crop, which is the short one you might have in your mind from... non equestrian activities between consenting adults... that one you might use more firmly in front of your leg when riding, but you don't pull back first, and you could tap your own leg as hard as you'd tap the horse. You hold it along with the reins and only use a slight movement of the wrist.
@@anamazingorange2286 exactly, couldn't have said it better myself. There is such stigmatism of abuse within the industry where much of usage of tools are moderated, it is just the instances of abuse (and I'm not saying they are rare because they do happen and it's awful) that come to the forefront and are seen to represent the sport as a whole
I’m shocked the rider was allowing this to go on as well. Pain should never be used to train any animal. It never makes for a true mutual connection.
It's obviously she's very comfortable in the practice of abusing her horses. Otherwise, she wouldn't have been so bold to do this in public. The horse has NO idea why he's being randomly whipped. Is it a show of power and control on Charlotte's part? To induce fear in the animal? I think that she forgets she owes these magnificent animals a debt of gratitude as she'd be nothing without them-no gold medals, world championships and a fantastic lifestyle. Think about that, Charlotte. So sorry her horse(s) have had to endure this abusive behaviour❤
Useless chitchat about timing, the timing is not the issue, the wipping is.
Timing IS AN ISSUE!!!! Had this come out years ago, fewer horses would have been abused!!!
The timing is crucial, it's a deliberate act to bring Team GB into disrepute and harm its medal winning chances.
How much money changed hands for this ?
Let me add here. This horse abuse will not end until people wake up and except it for what it really is. I mean she even went as far as to use both hands on with this lead whip to beat this horse. To put more force behind hitting this horse. That's not what there used for plain and simple. This shows this is something she does on again a regular basis. And the the other rider , his horse was bleeding from the mouth. That doesn't happen unless your hurting your horse. And that shouldn't have happened. Get real here. It's plain out horse abuse their using on these horses. You can't make excuses and call it anything other than what it is. It's Horse Abuse. Horse's are very intelligent animals. As well they have feelings as as you are I. Please take everything I've said into consideration. Go talk to good horse owners. Get the actual facts from them as to whether or not this is horse abuse. And I'm not talking about these professionals either. Because they'll just take up for one another. It's absolutely horse abuse.
I have started & taught to be ridden many kinds of horses, Thoroughbreds, Belgians feral horses of the BLM, Arabians etc. I have NEVER used whips , spurs or any kind of electric device on them. Our current Thoroughbred farm sire who is of Seattle Slew / Northern Dancer lines we ride with a bit-less bridle. We started him with a halter & lead rope. He is 17 hands of tremendous strength & power. Has some speed too. In our 40+ years of experience he was the most challenging horse to teach to ride. We used natural methods of handling him.
And her name has been in kids show bc she’s been such an amazing rider and so friendly to her horse..
As a horse & animal lover in general, I find this kind of behaviour disgusting!
Have you seen racing? How those horses are whipped. Why don't they call that cruelty!
Because anyone involved in horseracing knows what those whips look like, feel like, and we would shake our collective heads at you.
It’s a shame that it takes social media outrage for the FEI to take action!!! It shouldn’t take the public outrage to be so great that you are forced to take action to save face!!!! Do your job!!!
The whipping is horrible. But whipping a horse WITH A RIDER ON THEM IS INSANE!!!😳😱WTF??!! Who does that??
Why are animals used in a human sport?
Can't call it sport more like circus training.
This likely has happened quite a bit!
This wasn't a first time thing for her. She's actually far to comfortable using this method on this horse. As a owner of horses. I know actually what I'm looking at. This action actually proves she does this on a regular basis. And the statement she made. Reread it. No its not an apology ! She actually never actually apologized not once in her statement ! Wake up people. This has been going on for a very long time. And not just with her. It's time for everyone to take responsibility in this and own of to the abuse taking place with these horses. No disrespect intended towards this channel.
As a horse trainer, this person belongs nowhere near horses, clearly abuse is NEVER acceptable. However, ignorant and cruel people that do not understand that Dressage is supposed to be an art form in demonstrating the expressive forms of a horse in perfect collection and balance. How appalling that such a parody of ignorant abuse could even reach to Olympian levels... clearly judges are lacking in judgement between a horse being comfortable and well trained/fit in performing and one that is trained through force!!! How many horses had this abject person abused in her 'career'?!!!!
This woman should go to prison for animal abuse.
Agree
Absolutely disgraceful.🤬🤬🤬
We had a neighbor who trained horses, she never ever used a whip. She had a small flexible pole (kind of like the end of a fishing rod) and she merely touched or tickled the horse with the tip of it. She and her horses won a lot of ribbons and trophies.
Horse racing is a rich person sport and you expect them to have morals. Of course they whip the horse they used to whip humans.
Is this a joke ? After 70+ years on earth my opinion would be the opposite money corrupts and the more money they have the more corruption going on.
This video is about Dressage, not horseracing. Two separate sports that have no connection other than that they both utilize horses.
@@tessdurberville711 still a rich person sport
@@scottbarnard4659 Rich people are bad, they have so much more than you ?????
I love this news coming out, don’t love that everyone assumes this is how horses are trained and are grounds for banning the sport.
The sport should be banned based off of the fact that corruption happens at elite international levels. A prize so great, all depending on the animal. Look at how these elite riders get a slap on the wrist from the FEI. These abusers will get elite competition banned because it’s simply too easy to get away with these abusive tactics. I’m so sick of this.
Lol schooling whip... its used for tickling. I mean come on, who are they trying to kid? Why even entertain that complete BS the fact that it is even a known thing tells you everything you need to know about the whole sport. It's a whip. It is like Ronseal, does what it says on the tin...
Timing doesnt matter. The fact is she did it 2.5 years ago. In front of people. She didnt quit after one episode. And this is not the first time she did it. And many others have witnessed it. Be grateful it came out. Perhaps the videographer is a young girl. Possibly scared.
Hope this horse has a decent and loving home after this abuse !
I agree why did it take so long for this video to come to light. How long has she been abusing horses and what happened to that particular horse. I hate the way these dressage horses are treated anyway. The painful pressure on their mouths and poles is atrocious. Dressage is supposed to be beautiful . This is not.
The footage is too short to tell what's going on. A 3rd person(the rider) has to speak up and tell us what the situation was. There must be a huge misunderstanding about that video. I mean, it could've been the rider had to compete in a few days, and the horse was being stubborn? Or Something........ she is a top-level rider. There is no reason for her to abuse the horses as she will know better that that is not the way to get top results. Unless she tortures for pleasure. That's the only reasonable abusive reason I can imagine for her 😮.
She has to be totally banned from entering any horse in any competition...and charged with animal abuse...
What shocks me the most that this video was only released to stop Charlotte from participating in the Olympics.
The person who withheld the video is as bad as the people who beat their horses.
STOP HORSE ABUSE ⚠️
Dujardin said the incident “does not reflect how I train my horses or coach my pupils," What a lie since this the video shows how you actually train your horses and work with your riders. What gets me is the person laughing while they're filming. Who is this person?
Dressage must be banned, it's so cruel and unnatural
Whats natural about ruby, football, cricket, boxing, martial arts etc ?
Can we please start taking animal abuse more seriously if you abuse an animal you shouldn’t be allowed to have an animal again. She shouldn’t be allowed to compete again let alone ride or keep an animal again. We need to treat animals with respect.
Everybody is forgetting that she was a young girl ,and taken under Carl Hester he tought
her everything she knows so she was obviously been taught that , she was young in that video .Carl at the beginning was proud off how she has come along at the start of her career.
Benefit to the horses ? In what way
Excuse me. That whip should NEVER EVER TOUCH A HORSE! Plain and simple.
Appalling… Strip her of her Olympic medals.. absolutely disgraceful
Not to mention that there was a rider that was on the horse that could have died.
And this is the behaviour of someone who has won medals because of horses! Shocking and disgusting. The horse was too nice to fight back!
Horses are such beautiful sensitive animals. If someone did this to another human being it would be called sadism.
This is not the first and singular case of animal abuse in professional equestrianism. There NEED to be stricter restrictions apart from checking the horse at place of competition, it is not helping if the horses get mistreated behind closed doors. There needs to be mandatory tracking of all training sessions
Looks like she is angry. And just whipping the horse..even the horse is kicking back. I believe you just give them a little tick to keep engaged but not that way and I hope other big trainers do not do it..maybe?
Now let's talk about the abuse encouraged and rewarded by the judges of dressage: rollkur. Visible and sanctioned abuse for the public to see.
Rollkur has been banned for about 10 years already. Does it still happen? Yeah, probably. But it is not rewarded by judges anymore.
@@inoel75 Paris olympics 2024 Brazilian Carlos Parro on camera hyperflexing his horse...just gets a warning. That is a de facto free pass for this 'banned' behavior. If FEI were serious about banning rollkur, he should be expelled. If he did it on camera what does he do off camera.
I truly thought she was ‘one of the good ones’. Shows how wrong a person could be.
Error of judgment .. 24 times darlin’ ?
Im from USA snd I knew many lile this!!!! This has to stop...... All for fame and glory,....... This is Unacceptable......🐎😭💔😤😫😩 7:22
All horse racing and events should be banned, it’s not a sport, it’s glorified animal abuse
Absolutely! If you truly loved animals you wouldn't have anything to do with horse racing.
@@davidgoulden5956
What have you done in racing? Betting does not count.
Who filmed this and was recorded laughing? Disgraceful and disgusting! One of the most disturbing, of the many, videos out there.
So the only reason the horse is able to preform is because its scared of a beating. Thats not down to any real skill from her then. All medals should be revoked