Audiophile Electrician - Interview and Onsite Footage of Consultation
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
- A lot of audiophiles worry about power delivery only when it applies to the last 6 feet via a power cord.
Some may use power conditioners with limited success. Others claim to be off the grid via batteries, but inverters in those devices add noise, can't power amps and often aren't isolating the gear from each other... among many other issues with batteries degrading and inconsistency.
Nevertheless, many find focusing on the last 6 feet worthwhile.
This video deals with power delivery on the other side of the wall where you could argue it's much more important... not just for performance... but for safety and reliability.
Nothing will guarantee an improvement since everybody's situation and gear is different. However there's a great case to be made for exploring things up to your breaker, dedicated lines and proper grounding to ensure optimal performance and safety before you even turn on gear.
In many cases, you can eliminate ground loops and noise that's easily audible and measureable, so I've brought you guys an audiophile electrician who looks at things beyond the minimum standards of electricians.
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It´s unbelievable the difference clean and dirty power makes. WIth dirty power I can´t even stand listening to music, it´s boring and uninvolving. But when the power is right I can listen for hours and hours and be mesmerized at the music.
I live in the middle of a big city btw, with no power conditioning.
Also, make sure your Amp’s circuit breaker and other audio gear circuit breakers are connected to the same leg in your panel, especially source…. 10awg wire and 20A breaker is typically good for most amplifiers.
Very interesting Jason, I'm enjoying this series a lot. There's plenty to learn here, most Audiophiles simply would not consider a lot of this stuff.
Thanks... When I step back and think about it, it makes me wonder why I didn't focus on this more in the past. I did have pretty good test results with my power and the foresight to do the Richard Gray whole house protection, but this is another level of detail that totally makes sense to address.
Most people like the comfort that a fancy/quality power cord provides, but never look at their breaker box to see what the wire and connections look like feeding everything. The ground is also neglected which probably makes the most audible difference of anything if you have a ground loop.
I'll have more good stuff from Rex in the future.
@@AudiophileJunkie awesome Jason looking forward to it. I'm about to do some dedicated lines in my room so this is perfect timing for me. I've got an electrician that was an audio engineer in a former life doing the work. So I'm definitely right into these videos.
Great info and very interesting! I do a little bit of electrical work as a DIYer as necessary. Found it very interesting that he talked about the air conditioning disconnect box as being a potential source of noise. I just changed mine out last year when I realized that it had been arcing. Didn't realize I was potentially helping my audio system at the time though LOL. Would love to see more about electrical. Thanks again!
Yeah... I'll have plenty more, but you picked up on a good tip he shared.
I am having an electrician wire 4 dedicated circuits each with it's own ground to the breaker panel using 10 gage Romex. One for my VAC Master Pre-amp that already has it's own separate power supply, one each for my VAC 452IQ musicbloc in mono, the 4th one for my Niagara 3,000 that has my cd player and my APEX DCS Rossini DAC. I am getting estimates this week. Luckily the breaker panel is directly behind my listening room and attic space above so easy to run the new wiring only about 25 to 30 feet for each circuit. 2 2 plug outlets already there but going to change to 4 outlet each but own circuits. Right now 4- 2 plugs around the room all on one breaker circuit.
Sounds like an excellent plan.
Did you get the new plugs in, how was the improvement in sound? I bet it made a good difference with the gear you are running
As an audio electrician i can say he is pro,i would do the exact same thing ...
If you want to go the extra mile you should Thermo-Weld your grounding rod. My place (code here) has 2 grounding rods approx 6 feet apart
20amp ded line, SR Denali 6000s, Alpha XC power cord, Magnepan 20.7s love current
Wow, I'm a CPA, spent 10 years at Price Waterhouse, before Coopers. So cool. We should form an audiophile Club just for CPAs. Looks to be a great video about - no back to the show.
I was at Arthur Andersen before the downfall...was lots of fun when it was the Big 6
@@AudiophileJunkie Enron was in Texas, did you have a ringside seat? I guess all that off balance sheet stuff got confusing. Price Waterhouse almost got together with Arthur Anderson but could not come to terms on retirement issues. So we're not related. Sorry to hear that it didn't work out not a good situation
I was in New Orleans at the time of Enron, so didn't know any of the players in that disaster, but it was amazing how a few individuals took down the most successful private company in the world at the time. Later, everyone was found not-guilty, but the damage had been done.
Once all is addressed at the breaker box would you still need a power conditioner in your system? Figure is the power is clean to the outlet no need to spend money on conditioner
For amps, I'd agree and say no power conditioner needed. You could argue that digital and other pieces might benefit, but still debatable.
I depend on a PS AUDIO Directstream PowerPlant 12, then l know when l plug in my fancy power cables, they are transferring clean, quiet power to my components.
Yes... Those things can help, but one thing you'll notice in upcoming videos is that the problems often come from other gear plugged into the same power conditioner, and the outlets aren't really isolated like they claim...or at least not to the level of separate dedicated lines which also can supply power to amp demands better than many conditioners.
Also, improving the power to the conditioners also improves their performance as well.
The biggest takeaway for me isn't even the subjective sound benefits. It's in the noise floor of better grounding and safety that is worth more attention in the hobby.
Audio circuit breakers, there's one for eu but can't find one for US.
He offers different levels power panels that are mainly upgraded parts and materials used in standard panels. Will discuss that more in future videos.
Question: would it make sense to run 240V, 8/3 wire to a small sub panel with a few breakers in panel. then 120V 20A breakers for amps (short 12/2 wire to receptacles, 15A breakers for Sources, Preamps….
I learned that US houses has 2-phase 240 V in the panel and it is used for heavy loads like ovens etc.
Why not have a dedicated 240 V outlet for audio as well?
This for equipment that handle 220-240 V, i.e., what we have in EU.
Interesting thought... Much of my gear can switch itself internally between 120 and 240. Perhaps 240v would be a benefit for my amp, which has a 2000 VA transformer. Of course the wiring from the panel to the outlet would have to be upgraded to a heavier gauge, and the panel would have to have room and capacity to make that change. We typically use double pole breakers on 240 volt here. Thanks for sharing.
It's not that important, for what it's worth the terminology would be; two leg, single phase.
I hear that you hen some people install a Generac or permanent power generator that your power isn’t as good anymore.I think a Tesla power wall or inverter could be better
That's a legitimate concern for many and we're actually going to address that in a future video. My friend has a Generac and his audio system will be bypassing that generator.
Which outlets you recommend?
I have a separate video on outlets I use and recommend. Some are on my website linked in the description
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