Saw Ministry when this album came out at The Channel in Boston . Met Paul and Al Several times in the years that followed. Paul was always super friendly. He is a great musician and creative force. The best Ministry and Revco albums involved Paul.
Saw you guys, must have been '87, at Exit(?) in Chicago playing Twitch. The relentless, throbbing, propulsive percussion and dark bass was just incredible. Still remember it vividly and still am blown away by Crash and Burn. A song that is 99% percussive. Like a Steven Riech but with programmed percussion.. The coolest thing is that now, what, 30 years later, you and Al are these super thoughtful, decent guys. Feel like there was a thing happening and I was part of it. Now I'm a suburban dad who is heartened that my teens are discovering and appreciating all that great, hard, difficult, challenging, music I experienced. Thanks. Twice.
Land Of Rape And Honey is one of the greatest albums ever recorded. Paul Barker is the man. The real creative force behind Ministry from LORAH onwards. He was the glue that kept that collective going.
Dude are you joking or something? Ministry was always Al's band, Al and Mikey wrote all their best stuff. Those two defined the industrial metal sound. Paul really didn't contribute much at all creatively, or at least most of what he created didn't end up on any records.
Listen to Ministry's side projects. I've met Paul a few times real intelligent and eloquent in conversation. This choppy interview is nothing like conversation.
@@damonkrause3211 another fan boy who believes junkie Als lies. Barker obviously was the cohesive glue, you can hear key ministry sounds in his solo work and other projects. No coincidence that Ministry sucked shit once Barker left. Al was just a toxic junkie ringleader who collated talent around him.
@@damonkrause3211 are you kidding? Paul and Bill had a huge influence.... Al at the center of all of it but I think you're downplaying their significance a lot.
What about Bill Rieflin or Al himself who had major impact? Idk why people jerk off to Paul (no disrespect, love Lead into Gold, hes a great musician too) but some of you guys act like he was the sole force behind ministry...why? Because they were less industrial when he left? Paul even said in here it was all three of them, and that Al was the impetus (meaning driving force) behind it at the end of the day.
@@maxmatson1578 same! was surprised to finally find the sample at the end of the film "the good, the bad, and the ugly" last year. '"YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARRRE". (such a killer song).
It was a transitional record. Mind is a Terrible thing to taste was their first Industrial Metal record. THe Land of Rape and Honey was their transition from the industrial dance material from previous albums and into the heavier material that they would be later know for. The perfect description for it would be "Hard Industrial". Another "Hard Industrial" record is "Slab!" - "Descension" (1987)
The Mind IATTTT is not Industrial-Metal at all! It's got much more of a Post-Punk vibe ala Barker's early band The Blackouts. Psalm 69 was their first real metal album.
Great interview! The Land of Rape and Honey hit me between the eyes and ushered in a much more nuanced appreciation of music for me. It still has a dangerous, dark vibe to it and that is part of why I loved it then and love it now.
I disagree, Rio Grande Blood and Houses of the Mole were great, the newest album is pretty good as well. Also I never understood that logic, Al recruited Paul Raven and Tommy Victor, I think the brains behind Prong and a key member of Killing Joke are pretty damn good musicians, no?
I was a deep-down, post-punk Bauhausian. It is from going to the under-age alt clubs in Philadelphia that my experience with Ministry’s LORAH would take place. Whatever song was played from that album would elevate the whole experience to another, more aggressive level. It had all the darkness and new-ness of the whole scene, but with a far higher level of danceability and oomph that the scene had up to date.
Hearing the land of raping honey when it came out really changed my idea of music. I was familiar with various experimental bands like negativland but this album from ministry really had an impact
IMHO Ministry's masterpiece. It's all over the place from dark militant electro, post punk noise, fucked up funk.. A lot of it is against the grain like more experimental industrial and noise, but somehow very enjoyable.
@@henrychinaski7861 Right, I know Al and him didn't get on for a while. That's not why your statement confused me. It's you saying "he seems like someone that would try and takeover". You got that impression from watching this video? Seriously?
@@radiokevin The Ministry albums after Paul left were repetitive, uninspiring garbage, regardless of whether Paul "took off" or not. The whole is greater than the sum of its parts.
ministry has just never been the same without you paul.
Absolutely! 👏👍
It's become pretty unoriginal. Kinda generic.
Ministry turned into a total clown-show. Seems Paul's most thankless role was keeping Al's cringe at bay.
He seems way happier now though. I'm thankful for what they made when they made it. Nothing lasts forever.
Guess who’s back? :)
Ministry was one of the bands that inspired me to attempt to learn how to play drums and be creative. Thank you for that Paul. RIP Bill Rieflin.
I didn't know Bill Rieflin died that sucks he was a great session drummer as well. I learn something every other day.
Loudest band I ever saw!!!
"You know What You Are" is the song that made me realize you don't need guitar to be heavy AF!
You don't even need a snare drum!
Saw Ministry when this album came out at The Channel in Boston .
Met Paul and Al Several times in the years that followed. Paul was always super friendly. He is a great musician and creative force.
The best Ministry and Revco albums involved Paul.
and now, you get to see him on youtube...aint technology amazing????
Who doesn't like Paul Barker ? One of the best musicians of the late 20th Century and into The Future !
Yet only you and maybe me heard of him
Saw you guys, must have been '87, at Exit(?) in Chicago playing Twitch. The relentless, throbbing, propulsive percussion and dark bass was just incredible. Still remember it vividly and still am blown away by Crash and Burn. A song that is 99% percussive. Like a Steven Riech but with programmed percussion.. The coolest thing is that now, what, 30 years later, you and Al are these super thoughtful, decent guys. Feel like there was a thing happening and I was part of it. Now I'm a suburban dad who is heartened that my teens are discovering and appreciating all that great, hard, difficult, challenging, music I experienced. Thanks. Twice.
The Twitch album is great.
Land Of Rape And Honey is one of the greatest albums ever recorded. Paul Barker is the man. The real creative force behind Ministry from LORAH onwards. He was the glue that kept that collective going.
Dude are you joking or something? Ministry was always Al's band, Al and Mikey wrote all their best stuff. Those two defined the industrial metal sound. Paul really didn't contribute much at all creatively, or at least most of what he created didn't end up on any records.
Listen to Ministry's side projects. I've met Paul a few times real intelligent and eloquent in conversation. This choppy interview is nothing like conversation.
Mike scaccia was a bad influence on the band. Psalm 69 is way overrated, and everything after that is pretty well rated.
@@damonkrause3211 another fan boy who believes junkie Als lies. Barker obviously was the cohesive glue, you can hear key ministry sounds in his solo work and other projects. No coincidence that Ministry sucked shit once Barker left. Al was just a toxic junkie ringleader who collated talent around him.
@@damonkrause3211 are you kidding? Paul and Bill had a huge influence....
Al at the center of all of it but I think you're downplaying their significance a lot.
Aw, Paul . . . You were always my favorite. And you still are ❤️
The real talent behind ministry. Come back please Paul so Ministry can stop sucking.
From what I’ve read, Paul says that will almost surely never happen.
No one wants to deal with Al’s shit
@@MrToddlingfrankly I'm amazed he had the patience to stay as long as he did after reading part way into Al's biography
What about Bill Rieflin or Al himself who had major impact? Idk why people jerk off to Paul (no disrespect, love Lead into Gold, hes a great musician too) but some of you guys act like he was the sole force behind ministry...why? Because they were less industrial when he left? Paul even said in here it was all three of them, and that Al was the impetus (meaning driving force) behind it at the end of the day.
& all of a sudden
YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE IS ONE OF MY ALL TIME FAVES.
mine to took me a a couple years to find where the sample came from ( the good bad and the ugly)
First time I heard the song I thought it's Skinny Puppy.
Brutal vocals.
I love "You know what you are" too!! I love the whole album!
"You know what you are" is my favorite track off that album!
@@maxmatson1578 same! was surprised to finally find the sample at the end of the film "the good, the bad, and the ugly" last year. '"YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARRRE". (such a killer song).
Al likes to shit on Paul, Bill, and Chris, but they were only present on the groundbreaking albums.
Ministry without Paul and Bill was a shit metal band. It's obvious where the talent was.
@@SingularityMedia For sure.
no, Al is down to work with paul
@@ganglabeshNow he is. Only after turning Ministry into a clown show.
gotta love the closing lines, "and i'm not bitter in any way"
It was a transitional record. Mind is a Terrible thing to taste was their first Industrial Metal record. THe Land of Rape and Honey was their transition from the industrial dance material from previous albums and into the heavier material that they would be later know for. The perfect description for it would be "Hard Industrial". Another "Hard Industrial" record is "Slab!" -
"Descension" (1987)
Industrial rock/Hard rock?
The Mind IATTTT is not Industrial-Metal at all! It's got much more of a Post-Punk vibe ala Barker's early band The Blackouts. Psalm 69 was their first real metal album.
I fucking love Slab's Descension! Totally obscure classic.
@@NachtSchreck13 Exactly
omg someone else knows Slab! Undriven Snow is such a strange and cool tune. Really ahead of its time for '87
Please post more Ministry interviews...such an inspirational band and all its side projects. Pailhead, Revco etc
Great interview! The Land of Rape and Honey hit me between the eyes and ushered in a much more nuanced appreciation of music for me. It still has a dangerous, dark vibe to it and that is part of why I loved it then and love it now.
The best albums of Ministry were with Paul Barker. He needs to come back for one final album if Ministry is wrapping up.
Wrong. Best albums are Twitch and With Sympathy
Twitch was great. With Sympathy though? Nah 😂
is the unedited version available anywhere?? Those cuts are super jarring
The albums stopped being great after Paul and Bill were no longer in the band.
It was announced before the release of Filth Pig that Paul would be leaving. Bill left then Paul, two big hits to the magic that made Ministry.
@@jamesf9492 Not true. Paul left after Animositisomina, not Filth Pig.
@@jamesf9492but Bill Rieflin was on the tour post Filth Pig?
I disagree, Rio Grande Blood and Houses of the Mole were great, the newest album is pretty good as well. Also I never understood that logic, Al recruited Paul Raven and Tommy Victor, I think the brains behind Prong and a key member of Killing Joke are pretty damn good musicians, no?
@@Kurgan19XX I’m sure Al had the majority of the input on the albums, and got Tommy and Raven because of their ability to perform.
Al’s best rhythm section, ever
I was a deep-down, post-punk Bauhausian. It is from going to the under-age alt clubs in Philadelphia that my experience with Ministry’s LORAH would take place. Whatever song was played from that album would elevate the whole experience to another, more aggressive level. It had all the darkness and new-ness of the whole scene, but with a far higher level of danceability and oomph that the scene had up to date.
I really love his personality. He's so chill ❤ Everyone who has been in Ministry seems to be that way.
Thats amazing they recorded land at CRASS studio the best anarco punk band ever
you mean "clown" studio....
Fred Armisen plays him in the movie.(if there is one)
Or Paul Dano.
I want to be this cool at 60.
Filth pig was he last album and it was a great album...I'm not sure how he delt with AL all them years but he did and they made great music
Dark Side of the Spoon was the last album featuring Paul.
@@MrAmc1291 Animositisomina was the last last album to feature Paul.
Full interview ?
Hearing the land of raping honey when it came out really changed my idea of music. I was familiar with various experimental bands like negativland but this album from ministry really had an impact
Still a great sharp mind, a new collab with Al please
THIS!
yeah i dont know about that
please return at least one album!!!!
IMHO Ministry's masterpiece. It's all over the place from dark militant electro, post punk noise, fucked up funk.. A lot of it is against the grain like more experimental industrial and noise, but somehow very enjoyable.
I love the description 'dark militant electro' !!
He's lucky to still have all his hair. I don't!
oh god, dont even start...right in the feels man
I love tacos and beating my meat
'You Know What You Are'... harder than God's head man. Fuck I love that song.
Land Of Rape And Honey was the first album I ever bought, think I was 12
Always liked the production, the frequencies, juicy, sizzling psych with perfect engineering, really unique
This and skateboarding. This was it for me. Long live Rape and Honey.
"Oceanside away" is ballad???
He stayed at a hotel i worked at, i even drove hiim and the other dude in his new band to the airport.
Underrated
Such a BADASS!
FUCKING LEGEND!!!
I swear this is my college art teacher Mrs Elliot.
Party on, Garth!
The editing and audio dropouts gives me vertigo.
Al trashed Paul too much for him to come back.
I love The Land of Rape and Honey but the real question is does anyone watch Portlandia? haha
OMG Adam ragusea was in ministry!
Cause they kinda look similar but only to a point. There is a limit but still enough that it made me laugh...
Ministry stopped evolving after Barker left. It's all just thrash metal with hint of industrial keyboards.
Dana Carvey is so multifaceted
"i'm paul barker. i'm yelling. i don't know whooooy"
Great band
nice chat
He must hurt from carrying Ministry on his back
certainly one of the more serious and interesting interviews than pretentious mannequin maggots like manson etc.
i think when fred armisen is trying to b cool he's emulating paul barker
LADIES AND GENTLEMAN....
THE KOOLEST NERD IN THE PLANET ...PERIOD.
👹👹
The LAST great Ministry album.
Shut up, Book Club.
I can see why al didn’t like this guy he seems like someone that would try and takeover
?????
The Drunk Skunk go read als book
The Drunk Skunk dude ripped al off for a shit ton of Money and al hates him
@@henrychinaski7861 Right, I know Al and him didn't get on for a while. That's not why your statement confused me. It's you saying "he seems like someone that would try and takeover". You got that impression from watching this video? Seriously?
The Drunk Skunk yes
this guy sooo wants to portray the "overly intelligent intellectual musician", when al he did was rip Al off.
Right, that’s why Ministry lost the magic after Paul quit… lol
@@unkindestcut that's why Paul never took off after leaving Ministry....."lol"
@@radiokevin The Ministry albums after Paul left were repetitive, uninspiring garbage, regardless of whether Paul "took off" or not. The whole is greater than the sum of its parts.
@@ericneville7382 I agree Paul helped alot, and drugs have gotten the worst of Al, but Paul isn't a genius musician.
@@unkindestcut Tf you mean Paul never took off lol he plays bass in Pucifer rn.