Ridgid R4513 - Contractors Table Saw, Router Table Insert & Fence
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- Опубліковано 17 жов 2016
- Project to make some custom accessories for my collapsible contractors saw. I love this saw... It's precise, cuts very well, and has plenty of power. The only issue I have, is that I wish it had a "soft start" feature. I'd buy this saw again...
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This is an excellent idea. I’ve seen several types of router table inserts for table saws, but never seen one done this way. I love how it slides into one rail the sets on top of the other. Thank you for the video.
Fantastic idea. I appreciate you taking the time to make this video. Off to make one for my ridgid table saw.
Thanks! You inspired the same thing (well, except mine is a really cheap all wood version) for my R4510 contractor table saw -- "same thing but different" my Gramps used to say.
I just bought the 4514, it's similar but has less orange skirting. I love what you've done to increase the usability.
Great way to utilize that part of the saw! I have the exact same saw and now I think I'll give it a go. I might install some drop down legs to support the router table but I'm not sure yet. Now I can free up space on my portable tool table! Thanks for the idea and video!
Really cool set up, I am going to do similar with the fence spun 180 degrees since you will end of feeding the material from the back of the saw to the front. Thank you for the inspiration
Have this same saw. Did a router insert..different design then yours. Attached an older model incra router fence to ridgid fence. Works awesome. Like your K.I.S.S designed fence. One suggestion....assuming you do 95% of your cutting with fence to right of the blade, flip your router fence to the other side of the table fence. Now you can keep it mounted most of the time, still maintain onboard measuring, and work off the end(rt side) of the table (better cutting posture instead of leaning across the whole table). Great build. Thanks for sharing.
What?! We don't get to see it in action!!?? Teaser! :) Great job man! Totally going to replicate.
I have a brand new Skilsaw worm drive job site saw very similar to your saw and the Dewalt. I am considering doing an update just like you did for my saw. My saw fence is rack and pinion which I love, spot on accurate and it will expand to 30.6" to the right. So I have plenty of room for an insert. Nice job
Beautiful job! Inserts of the brand you have are crazy expensive though - I had to make my own. Thanks for the post!
Got inspired by your build. I was hesitant because I didn't know how to attach the extension and bolt it on to the cast iron table without having a separate frame. I like your solution the best by press fitting the extension in the rail groove. I plan to do this on my Ridgid hybrid R4512. I like your fence too but I plan to use my 4" hose from my table saw and port through the bottom. Thanks!
Like your idea have the same saw as yours and was thinking about building a separate router table, but now watching your video guess I'll be building one like your.
Thanks for the video and the idea.
This has give me inspiration for my future saw but I'm getting the cabinet hybrid by rigid instead. I Absolutely love the idea also great video on instructing how to make the router attachment too.
The thing I like about that saw is the fence. One of the best in the portable saw line.
Made in Canada 🍁 router insert!!! Right on!!!
That little Mishap with the router looks like a good spot for your thumb to split the fence lol good job
Wow, this is awesome! I will do the same thing on mine!
So cool, appreciate you shared this!!
Thanks for sharing your design. I was inspired to make a similar style using12mm baltic birch project cutoffs. 12 mm fit into the fence guide extensions slots and from there i stacked to meet the table height. A laminate finish surface produced a perfect match to the saw table height. It locks in with one fixed tongue and the other end is a slotted sliding tongue wing nutted to secure into the fence guide extensions.
The fence is a torsion box design the same height and width as the saw fence and secured to it with Rockler fence clamps a taller6” face attac
Great video. You look just like a guy I went to AIT with at Ft. Huachuca in the army.
Ha! What year???
PatricksNonsense would have been 1995
Yeah, that was me...
Nice job. Thanks for sharing
Excellent job!
Okay I just made the mod and have some numbers for you. The router base board is 23 3/* in L X 101/4 W in X 1 1/2 in thick./ The thickness comes from glueing two pieces of Melamine together and then cut to size. I would measure your opening on the saw bed just too make sure your's is the same. The Dado on one end was 1.123 in deep this was for the slot on the back side of the saw. I did not have to make a tongue, as the thickness of the insert just fit the slot. On the front side of the saw the dado was 1.058 inches deep. This lays on top of the rail so I just cut the dado to fit.
I would suggest not cutting the dados as deep at first as I know there are some mods that were made to the saw over the years by Ridgid. I have an older model.
I hope this helps
Beast video! Thank you!
I would love to see a video of your router insert.
Have the same saw and will consider the mod. Thanks. How did you set up to get the video image on the iPad? That will really help framing of shots. Thanks
Really nice !!!
Very nice, Thank you...
Great idea! I have the same saw and I was thinking of making a separate router table but this would save space. Question: Why didn't you use the other side of the fence for the router? If I understand correctly, this way you have to lean over the saw blade to do routing work.
your router fence should be on the other side of your table saw fence
Beautiful love it I have the same saw and limited space, How is yours holding up, are you still using the original any upgrades? Please help
Thanks Patrick - how did you get the iPad to serve an a real time monitor? I need that capability. Thanks
The GoPro app for iPad, is what you can use to download videos directly from the camera to the iPad, but also has the capability to view the camera in real time while recording with the GoPro camera. The downside is that it's adhoc, so the wi-fi from the iPad cannot be connected to the internet, while also connected to the GoPro. I actually used imovie on the iPad to edit this video. It's limited, but easy for some quick editing, that I can work on while laying in bed or on the couch. Cool stuff!
Awesome project! technically the router fence should be facing towards the right of saw. also you’d be able to use it without the saw in the way.
as it is in there now i believe you’d have to feed backwards.
No! It's correct in relation to the router rotation. You want to feed the stock opposite the rotation so it doesn't want to "fly away" from you.
Nicely done my man!! By chance did you chamfer your fence slides to account for saw dust accumulation?
thanks great vid
what router lift did you use?
Can you also tell me what Kreg system you have on your table saw? It looks like a sled attachment/
This is awesome. This is exactly the kind of project I am looking to do for my table saw. I have the same saw as yours but wouldn't it have made more sense to have the hose attachment on the other side so it's next the table saws hose?
It is on the same side as the table saws hose attachment.
Your video is terrific. We have this exact table saw. Can you give the measurements of the insert and also name of the router lift?
Damn...if we could work on that mic positioning issue and lose the amateur camera straps banging against the camera....I'd give this video 4.5 stars!
What's an update on this project? Do you still use it or have you made any modifications?
How do you like the fence? I've thought about getting a DeWalt table saw due to its awesome fence system, but I'd have to pony up big money to get the model that handles dados. Also is the tape measure adjustable or is it true to the blade?
I think there is some small adjustment on the tape measure, but I
haven't had to mess with it. My tape measure is definitely true to the
blade, so it's not really functional with the fence. I was building a
table this weekend and made lots of tongue and groove joints with this
new fence. I really like it. It vacuums well, and I don't have any
hangups. I'll post that video up relatively soon, as I need to finish
the project, and edit the video. Probably in a few days.
couple questions : what kind of weight/ stress do you think this is putting on the arms of the saw to support all the extra MDF, insert and router? Ive been tossing between the dewalt 7490, but seeing the rigid appears to have a nicer fence and mitre ga. . both are about 500. .. why did you choose the Rigid ? theres been comment the riding has a beautiful sliding ability for the fence and provisions for bolting items. the dewalt on the other hand does have the adjusting track knob.... hmm what to buy what to buy i want a toy
Fair question about the extra weight/stress, but I haven't seen any adverse effects yet. I'm a little biased about DeWalt products because I used to work in an industry where I saw drill after drill fail. They were all DeWalt branded, and it seems that the bearings would always fail. We switched to Makita and the problem was gone. DeWalt seems to be too proud of their pricing as well. If you compare the Ridgid brand to others, it seems you always get a little extra torq, a longer extension with light indicator, a nice bag, etc... for a cheaper price. I've come to like Ridgid tools, and haven't had any problems with failures either. And they also offer lifetime warranties.
I get that you want to feed your router in the same direction as you saw but the hole thing is backwards so very difficult to get good precision. I might add wear a mask when cutting mdf, that stuff is toxic.
How did you glue the two pieces of melamine together? Melamine glue? Contact cement? Titebond 2?
That is a cool idea Where did you get that piece at
Great mod! I've been looking for a router and table, but after seeing this I'd rather do this to save some space.
Couple questions- How has it been holding up? Where did you get the insert?
It's held up really well. I have NO problems whatsoever. But I'm also a hobbyist wood worker, and not a commercial cabinet maker, so I guess it also depends on how much mileage you intend to put through it.
what's the make and model of that router insert plate ? and cost
Nice job!
On another note, what saw blade are you using? I noticed you replaced your stock blade, I'm looking to do the same.
Dave's Not Here I use Diablo blades... I think they’re made by Freud. The stock blade is junk. Manly used for ripping framing materials. Rough cut stuff. The one in the video is a combination blade. 50 tooth, I think. Cuts smooth as butter...
What are the dimensions of the board and how did you build that? I have the same saw and want to build this.
You mentioned you used a dado blade on this saw, can I ask what dado blade or size did you use? ty
6" Dadonator Jr. from Infinity Tools. $200 I used the 6" to keep torque down on the Universal motor.
Where did you get router insert or how did you make
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have same saw and would like to do the same insert as well as fence. do you sell plans? where can i purchase them?
tony
I don't have any plans... I had an idea and just kind of "winged it" and built it as I went along. Small, small adjustments with a dado blade.
what is the model for the router table insert?
Rigid is actually owned by TTi industries it is made in the USA
Ridgid is actually owned by Emerson and in 2003 TTi got licencing to sell Ridgid products in North America.
Particle board nd really thin rabbets it will sag and break not long after. I dont know if I would take the risk with that awesome lift
Still going strong, and no problems.
How's it holding up
Excellent idea. what are the overall dimensions?
Dimensions for the fence/box are roughly 6" x 6".
Would you be willing to share your router table dimensions? I'm most interested in how you got the router table to sit perfectly flush with the table saw deck. Also, you mentioned a template for JessEm lift. Where did you get that?
The router table insert was done very carefully with multiple passes on a Dado blade. I carefully shaved off a little bit at a time until I got it to sit flush. The template for the router insert came from WoodCraft store. They had it in stock for basically making a homemade router table. It was about $15 (kinda expensive, for a piece of MDF).
Where you get the router insert plat?
I made it from scratch... 2-3/4" pieces of melamine coated wood, glued together with Gorilla glue. I then routed it with a template that I bought from woodcraft.
I can't imagine the weight of the router will do that particleboard tenon any good over time.
Actually... Not shown in the video, I used almost an entire bottle of model grade CA (aka super glue), on that tenon and anywhere else particle wood is exposed. It's as hard as nails. Still going strong, and not a single chip.
@@patman0455 Did you just happen to have that melamine already? Just curious why you didn't go with plywood or even MDF then contact cement laminate to it.
@@FoScoJo I had the melamine already. I used to make speaker stereo boxes with mirrors and plexi-glass and such. Since MDF is the desired material (because of density vs. sound), this melamine has saved me quite a bit of work from having to cover and cut everything manually (gluing, etc...). Just for the sake of curiosity, I was just messing around and it worked out well.
The other reason why I didn't put the router fence on the other side (as others have pointed out), was because I thought it might be too much strain on the rails while working. It's kind of heavy, and I don't want to bend those rails. I had to make a compromise. It feeds the correct direction while facing the saw, so I'm good.
@@patman0455 I figured it was something like that. I ordered that same saw on Cyber Monday, just waiting for it to arrive. So I haven't really had hands on it yet except the floor model. I'll be mounting a router in the wing, too.
@@FoScoJo That's awesome! Try to document and share the project. I haven't seen much on this saw, but I LOVE it... I only wish it had a soft start feature.
Damn you like hearing yourself talk!
Partical board??!
Yeah, unfortunately... I was really after the melamine coating, and didn't want to do the formica, gluing, etc... It has held up well. I used some model glue (CYA) on the edges, and they are hard as a rock.
no safety glasses?
Is this what you added: www.jessemdirect.com/Rout_R_Lift_II_p/02310c.htm?1=1&CartID=0
The saw itself is good... I bought one. The plastic blade adjustment sucks with the lock. Broke it. The amperage is not there for cutting oak even with a brand new fine finish blade.
Dave Gravitt i’ve cut 100s of feet of white oak and 8/4 mahogany also with this saw.
learn to edit
collectorbob810 where is your special youtube channel?
Suck less
@@charlesholland6851 i can't do a you tube channel i fall apart over constructive criticism, like your mean comment took two years for me to get over it enough to respond you big meanie.