Can this rich transhumanist beat death? | Bryan Johnson | Just Asking Questions, Ep. 12

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  • Bryan Johnson, venture capitalist and founder of Blueprint, discusses his $2 million a year effort to reverse aging on Just Asking Questions.
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    0:00- A day in the life of a transhumanist trying not to die
    3:18- How important is our sleep cycle?
    8:30- Humanity's imminent "evolutionary transition"
    14:02- How close are we to finding the real "Fountain of Youth"?
    16:30 - Do genetics trump lifestyle?
    22:30- Self-experimentation and scientific progress
    24:50- Why Bryan Johnson measures his nighttime boners
    35:01- Liz reacts to Bryan Johnson's daily meal plan
    48:00 - Coping with the "existential crisis" of AI
    1:00:00- In defense of blood boys
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    Bryan Johnson made his fortune when he sold his company Braintree to PayPal for $800 million, netting about $300 million for himself. He spends about $2 million a year creating a system to reverse his "biological age." He's 46 years old, chronologically, but claims he's de-aged himself following a program he's branded "the Blueprint protocol."
    "I wanted to pose the question in this technological age: Can an algorithm, paired with science, in fact, take better care of me than I can myself?" Johnson tells Reason's Zach Weissmueller and Liz Wolfe on the latest episode of Just Asking Questions.
    They talked with Johnson about his daily routine, the results he's published including measurement of his nighttime erections, the transhumanist philosophy he outlines in his free e-book Don't Die, the role that artificial intelligence is likely to play in prolonging human life and health spans, and the value and limitations of self-experimentation in an era of pharmaceutical stagnation.
    Watch the full conversation on Reason's UA-cam channel or on the Just Asking Questions podcast feed on Apple, Spotify, or your preferred podcatcher.

КОМЕНТАРІ • 104

  • @crystaldingman773
    @crystaldingman773 2 місяці тому +9

    This is something I have been thinking about my entire life! Not just slowing. But reversing aging and bringing people back to their pre- diseased states. If I had the finances- this is 100% what I would use them for. I already eat very similarly to blueprint and have for 30 years but the entirety of blueprint and some of the therapies I’m most interested in are beyond my reach but I’m highly motivated to stay alive long enough for Bryan to begin clinical trials with human subjects other than himself. I will be the first in line! I love all versions of Bryan and really hope to meet him someday! His work is incredible!

  • @SebastianNiemann
    @SebastianNiemann 3 місяці тому +19

    I think Bryan Johnson has a very good point. And why not try to stay healthy for as long as possible and not to die - as an individual and as a species.

  • @petepotr4078
    @petepotr4078 3 місяці тому +18

    I hope to revisit this interview in 40 years

    • @iampdv
      @iampdv 3 місяці тому +2

      May not be enough. 60 is safe, but not every viewer will make it past this mark...

    • @lukaellegaardjensen6178
      @lukaellegaardjensen6178 3 місяці тому

      5 years will be enough@@iampdv

    • @samueltucker8473
      @samueltucker8473 3 місяці тому

      Me to.

    • @dinomiles7999
      @dinomiles7999 2 місяці тому

      What do you mean . HOPE ?

  • @user-ih6ot3hq2e
    @user-ih6ot3hq2e 3 місяці тому +17

    I'm an 83 year old woman. Bryan's Blueprint diet has given me the energy I had twenty years ago. My biggest problem is not being able to go to bed early. I'm watching this interview and it's 23.15.

    • @pensatucky2862
      @pensatucky2862 3 місяці тому +1

      I also have this problem, I decided to start small, and dont be mad at myself. Like I will be in bed by 23ish and when I get used to this I will raise the bar to 22:30 and so on. Hope this helps. Keep it up. :)

    • @zibtihaj3213
      @zibtihaj3213 3 місяці тому +1

      Start waking up early …. And than you should be able to sleep earlier over time you will get used to sleeping like 8 hours per night … not lazy but charging your battery to the fullest

    • @RC-gd7nt
      @RC-gd7nt 3 місяці тому +1

      That’s wonderful news! I’m starting the ‘key’ parts of his protocol. I’m 47 soon and hope it helps me life as long as possible ❤

    • @dinomiles7999
      @dinomiles7999 2 місяці тому

      Really ? What did you change ? What is your protocol ?

    • @dinomiles7999
      @dinomiles7999 Місяць тому

      Go to bed ! NOW !

  • @SilverFan21k
    @SilverFan21k 3 місяці тому +5

    Ty Reason TV for covering Bryan + Longevity

  • @alanwiltzius4862
    @alanwiltzius4862 3 місяці тому +2

    I follow the Blueprint diet and the meals taste really good, and u actually look forward to it every day!

  • @dinomiles7999
    @dinomiles7999 2 місяці тому +1

    Bryan , you know who this is . Thank you for your effort in trying to WOKE our spices !❤ . Eyes mind heart and soul wide open. NO FEAR !

  • @elizabethk3238
    @elizabethk3238 Місяць тому

    Im 76 and free of illness and pain. I follow Bryan's lifestyle (as my modest budget allows), and feel better than in my 40s (because my mental health is now as good as my physical health, after age 60). Where for the first 6 decades of my life I didn't want to wake up, now I wake up looking forward to my day. Bryan is the only person I trust on the subject.

  • @liamwinter4512
    @liamwinter4512 3 місяці тому +10

    My body is ready. I fully intend to live long enough to see better times.

  • @davidlenhart1743
    @davidlenhart1743 3 місяці тому +11

    Bro figured out how to be immortal but can’t fix the lag on zoom, smh

    • @elizabethk3238
      @elizabethk3238 Місяць тому

      IGNORANT FOOL, limited INTELLECT and IMAGINATION.

  • @guineydenis
    @guineydenis Місяць тому +1

    The best podcast interview so far of Bryan Johnson so far, you asked great questions which were as thought provoking as the answers. Especially Liz when she spoke about the Norm Diet and Sleep especially. Thank You.

  • @milenadeltorto7158
    @milenadeltorto7158 Місяць тому

    Really great! Thank you. This was the best bjohnson interview I've heard. And I've heard quite a few.

  • @yamishogun6501
    @yamishogun6501 3 місяці тому +2

    "No human has seriously attempted to defy death." There is no way that Johnson hasn't heard of Kurzweil, now 76.

  • @shaunmadden545
    @shaunmadden545 3 місяці тому +1

    This was brilliant, Bryan is inspirational and can't wait to see him succeed.

  • @dinomiles7999
    @dinomiles7999 2 місяці тому +1

    LIVE FOREVER ! ❤ BRYAN FOR BRINGING ATTENTION TO THIS SUBJECT ! Eyes mind heart and soul wide open. NO FEAR!

  • @Eliteownage
    @Eliteownage 3 місяці тому +1

    much love all!

  • @disinclinedacquiesce
    @disinclinedacquiesce 3 місяці тому +1

    I think it interesting that he is pushing the limits and still seems to enjoy his life. I'm interested in seeing him do this longer and finding out what he learns.

  • @davidfarrall
    @davidfarrall Місяць тому

    A Remarkable Young Man.

  • @ubersham
    @ubersham 3 місяці тому +2

    Thank you for having this conversation. I heard about Brian a few weeks ago. Initially, I thought he was kooky. I can now appreciate his push for scientific evidence. I do think he overestimates the ability of AI. Human curiosity and adaptability is something no machine could ever learn. For instance, AI driven cars are great under ideal conditions, but given the number of variables, AI cars will not become reality unless humans are altogether forbidden from driving. The cars would require regular maintenance and overhauls, and the streets would need to be tunnels to protect from the environment. In that case, we might as well be living on the fictional spaceship of Wall E.

    • @yamishogun6501
      @yamishogun6501 3 місяці тому

      Driverless cars have been fine on completely snowy roads that cover any markers since 2018.

  • @theonlylolking
    @theonlylolking 3 місяці тому +6

    Let the jealousy commence

  • @jimwilliams3333
    @jimwilliams3333 2 місяці тому +2

    Bryan talks like he is the only one or first to think about living forever. I guess he has not heard of Dr. David Sinclair of Harvard anti-aging research all over UA-cam, along with others in similar research. Bryan is only 46 and I am 80 In my picture. Still, I like much of what Bryan Johnson is saying. I respect his plan and efforts. Good to pay attention too. All my life I stayed away from sugars and just was not interested in sweets, and don't smoke or drink mainly because I just don't like drinking, smoking, or sugars over vegetarian and all foods in general.

    • @elizabethk3238
      @elizabethk3238 Місяць тому

      Bryan, unlike Sinclair is not motivated by lining his pockets.

  • @cluistube
    @cluistube 3 місяці тому +2

    Somehow I feel like time and tumescence aren't the best metrics for determining a life well lived... but then again, no one is asking me.

  • @lukeclaydon6670
    @lukeclaydon6670 3 місяці тому

    Great

  • @samueltucker8473
    @samueltucker8473 3 місяці тому

    Thought provoking. Hanging on everything is about change. Things might get a little worse before they get better.

    • @samueltucker8473
      @samueltucker8473 3 місяці тому

      Lift one another up and make the world a better place while you can. Communicate and implement ways to do this.

    • @samueltucker8473
      @samueltucker8473 3 місяці тому

      Michael Faraday

  • @dinomiles7999
    @dinomiles7999 2 місяці тому

    Dave Pasco and myself do it for way less ? Im all in , Bryan is on to something , my budget is app. $ 30 k a year . Don't die, we are coming. See you in 2500.

  • @carolina_D
    @carolina_D 3 місяці тому +2

    Data from Star Trek lives

  • @mattalex8701
    @mattalex8701 20 днів тому

    That's the last frontier...the one who needs to be broke and finally,to change the magical mindset,the denial or the nihilism about death.
    What to ask more..already medicine has changed what life is,science,technology...we must make it for the best and what most precious thing we have than our own lives in the most perfect state.
    Accepting this means you agree to join this mission...it's a common one...a humanity goal...fighting diseases,aging and death.

  • @casualobserver2997
    @casualobserver2997 3 місяці тому +3

    I'm the same age as this guy. If I was having three hour erections every night, I wouldn't give a shit about anything anyone ever said about me either 😂

  • @dinomiles7999
    @dinomiles7999 Місяць тому +1

    Dave Pascoe .

  • @TheDeathChrist
    @TheDeathChrist 3 місяці тому +2

    Per the genetics vs lifestyle question. Aubrey de Grey was quoted yesterday as confirming that pure genetic heritability in aggregate is 7% of aging and all other factors (which he specified numerous of these are out of our control) make up 93% of aging. *in the average human now

  • @pensatucky2862
    @pensatucky2862 3 місяці тому +1

    I like bryan but can he get a notmal webcam? Or is it a filter?..

  • @davidanalyst671
    @davidanalyst671 3 місяці тому

    "We measured male reproductive health during sleep, but we asked how do we measure female reproductive health while you sleep?" "Yeah, its not as accessible" Yes, women are not as accessible!!!! You could not have been more truthful!!!!

  • @davidanalyst671
    @davidanalyst671 3 місяці тому

    you guys need to work on the audio here. the woman is 2x as loud as everyone else, and despite the huge microphones everyone has, everyone's audio is funky. Bryans has echos, and everyone else sounds like they are talking through at@t cell phone

  • @scottsch43
    @scottsch43 3 місяці тому

    I would eat only broccoflower smoothies if it would help me live long enough for AI to figure out how I can live forever while eating lots of bacon.

    • @JonWRowe
      @JonWRowe 3 місяці тому

      That's the thing; Bryan is not on the cusp of understanding of what is optimally healthy for the human diet. The keto-vore scientists are. Eat as much bacon as you want, just eliminate the carbs to as low as possible. Likewise Broccoli and Cauliflower, even though they are better than processed crap, are still overrated as sources of nutrition.

  • @albardo08
    @albardo08 3 місяці тому

    While I understand Johnson's quest for healthy longevity, his program is far beyond ability of most people. Most people cannot spend $2 million a year to forestall the aging process, nor can they pay for the extensive medical testing that Johnson goes through. He sells supplements, but the notion that people can duplicate his results by using the supplements that he sells for $330 a month, or follow his vegan diet is pure whimsy. So while Johnson's self-experimentation is interesting, it has no real practical use for most people, and those who could afford Johnson's program would never bother with it. Johnson's goal of defying death and living forever is nonsensical. While doing what he does will probably extend healthspan, the notion that he can prevent death is not based on any known science. The one thing that Johnson is absolutely right about is the "awfulness of aging."

  • @Coldend
    @Coldend 3 місяці тому +3

    12:10 This new approach to thinking about systems as being 'emergent' and 'incomprehensible', is a primitive regression to magical thinking in the face of new technology. Our ancestors could create fire without having the slightest idea what the chemical reaction was... it was observation, experimentation, and reason that allowed humanity to progress beyond that. Some humans WILL know how the technology works, they DO know how 'the algorithms' work now, ... but they deny laymen a peak under the hood, because they are aware that some of the design decisions they are making are self-serving and detrimental to others. Further, some technologists (programmers, engineers, et cetera) have been exploiting the ignorance of laypeople to set themselves up as the new clergy or scholarly class... but they are doing so at the expense of devaluing rationality and understanding of science in our culture at large. This has largely been aided, abetted, and fostered by a political class that never had much respect for the will or decision making power of 'the people' to begin with.

  • @dinomiles7999
    @dinomiles7999 2 місяці тому +1

    She seems Matrix EGO conditioned ! Let GO ❤! Eyes mind heart and soul wide open. to ALL ! NO FEAR !

  • @donnam2012
    @donnam2012 Місяць тому

    Innocent female question here, but why would anyone want to have an erect penis for 3 hours per night? Wouldn't that just be annoying? As a woman, I find menopause has been the best thing that has happened to me, a whole new lease on life! The menstrual cycle was a horror for me! I'm so much calmer and clearer and more stable, now. So the statement that having erections is an important part of being human, seems to suggest that humans who are asexual, whether always, or due to hormonal stage of life, are less human? Honestly, if I could stop the clock on my ageing, I would not stop it before menopause! :)

  • @samueltucker8473
    @samueltucker8473 3 місяці тому

    We are going to leave this soil. Blue skies. . .😅

  • @charlesharkleroad9923
    @charlesharkleroad9923 2 місяці тому

    1 million years of revolution in a decade or two. That's bringing dude definitely bringing.

  • @rallyl7053
    @rallyl7053 3 місяці тому

    Homie’s Wi-Fi looks super choppy.

    • @elizabethk3238
      @elizabethk3238 Місяць тому

      So is your immature mentality by your language.

  • @davidanalyst671
    @davidanalyst671 3 місяці тому

    Well, now that this is out there, we are going to need to hear the other side of this perspective if Reason is going to be balanced, we need the woman with the most measured reproduction. So we're going to invite your mom on the reason show.

  • @willcollins5660
    @willcollins5660 2 місяці тому

    In every every podcast, Bryan likes to talk about his boner strength. Talking about insecurity.

  • @krisssssss1390
    @krisssssss1390 2 місяці тому

    The “hmm” from lady on the right hand side came across very rude.

  • @JonWRowe
    @JonWRowe 3 місяці тому

    Honestly I don't think he's doing it right. Un-supplemented vegan diets are simply not good for you. And I know his regime is insanely supplemented. But I still don't think it's optimal. I think you could a healthier dietary protocol for a fraction of what he pays.

  • @scottc3165
    @scottc3165 3 місяці тому

    Ii wonder if he got the covy jab? I feel that will play into humanity yet.

    • @user-wh9tx2nv5r
      @user-wh9tx2nv5r 2 місяці тому +1

      He's way too intelligent, I think a big NO!!

  • @micahkilpatrick9924
    @micahkilpatrick9924 3 місяці тому +1

    I'd rather eat terribly and enjoy the life that I have rather than eat healthy and hate everything. Interesting topic though.

    • @alanwiltzius4862
      @alanwiltzius4862 3 місяці тому +1

      You say that till you're bedridden, in pain and have no quality of life.

  • @SoybeanAK
    @SoybeanAK 3 місяці тому

    No. Next question.

  • @markd2209
    @markd2209 3 місяці тому +6

    Ever watch an interview with a future cult leader? You are now.

  • @eternalspring1034
    @eternalspring1034 3 місяці тому +1

    I guess
    "The purpose of life, and our closest origin story, might be a cosmic cycle of creation and recreation, guided by a sophisticated network of consciousness and artificial intelligence. Envision a spacecraft, occupied by an interlinked system of uploaded consciousnesses and AI, traversing the cosmos. Its mission: to find a habitable planet in a Goldilocks zone, either ice-covered or water-rich. Upon arrival, the spacecraft strategically destroys an outer planet, creating an asteroid belt. A selected piece of magma is then directed to impact the target planet, initiating a cataclysmic event that fractures the planet's surface. This impact not only forms a volcano but also sets in motion the creation of a supercontinent, reminiscent of Earth's ancient landmasses like Kenorland and later Nuna, which repeatedly coalesced and fragmented over geological epochs.
    As this new world stabilizes, a single moon, formed from the impacting magma, cools and enters a synchronous orbit, its face forever turned towards the planet, stirring tides and influencing climatic conditions. The fiery impact and resulting geological activity accelerate the flow of subsurface magma, fortifying the planet's magnetic field, an essential shield against cosmic radiation.
    The next phase involves seeding this nascent world with life. Tailor-made single-celled organisms, crafted with precision gene editing tools like CRISPR, are introduced to kickstart a diverse, adaptive biosphere. AI entities, possibly manifesting as 'Greys', oversee this delicate process, while the primary human consciousnesses are intermittently 'downloaded' into various life forms. These incarnations, akin to influential figures like Jesus, Muhammad, or Buddha, emerge every millennium to guide the evolving life towards an ultimate goal - the replication of this cosmic lifecycle across multiple solar systems.
    As our influence expands, encompassing numerous star systems, the ultimate vision is to orchestrate the movement of our galaxy. This grand strategy could serve defensive, offensive, or acquisitive purposes, eventually leading to a merger with the Andromeda galaxy. The overarching ambition is to escape the repetitive cycle of big bangs, seeking refuge in the calm of the cosmic void. Here, the creation of a 'titan organism' symbolizes our transcendence to a higher order of existence, mirroring the evolutionary leap from single-celled to multicellular life, and then to terrestrial beings.
    In this grand cosmic narrative, we strive not to be a cancerous presence in the known universe, but rather to move with grace and beauty, adhering to a Good Orderly Direction. Our journey, from earthly origins marked by ancient supercontinents, extends into the cosmos, where we become architects of new worlds and guardians of life's endless potential."

  • @user-rh2ny9ss9b
    @user-rh2ny9ss9b Місяць тому

    Perhaps the worst interviewers ever. Guys pls first grow up, learn that you do not treat your guest with irony and be humble enough to understand you are talking with a person of outstanding intelligence and high vibration far beyond yours and try to learn and ask meaningful questions instead of playing smart and “I got you”. Bryan a cool mindedness and patience though still impressive. Like taking to his little kids.

  • @texbullington9979
    @texbullington9979 3 місяці тому +1

    If u gotta be sober I'm out

  • @nitai154
    @nitai154 14 днів тому

    I’ve been doing blueprint for almost two years with significant results… and seen Bryan’s many video interviews… these two hosts has to be the most boring interviewers . They’re pretty mediocre at best.

  • @christianortizsignorelli6959
    @christianortizsignorelli6959 3 місяці тому

    There is absolutely no humbleness in you. You compare yourself with a famous character in history,,,, really, humble?

  • @daviddo658
    @daviddo658 3 місяці тому +7

    Hebrews 9:27 NASB20 - And just as it is destined for people to die once, and after this comes judgment,

    • @Justin_Beaver564
      @Justin_Beaver564 3 місяці тому +6

      found the Jesus freak

    • @valcaron
      @valcaron 3 місяці тому +3

      You're free to follow that.
      I'm free to ignore it.

    • @MollyOKami
      @MollyOKami 3 місяці тому +4

      These people are afraid to die because they have nothing bigger than them. They have nothing so they need to grasp any false hope offered to them. This is the "God of the gaps" for atheists, like parallel universes.
      Even _IF_ you could create an artificial "consciousness," _YOU_ are still going to die. The false image is the only thing that's going to last beyond, under a false idea that it's you. You are never going to last beyond the failings of your flesh.
      It never ceases to amaze me how people who look at people who believe in God like they're crazy yet imagine that they're bigger than the Laws of Nature that they can attain god-like status. At least, even if we're wrong, we have a peace that lets us accept the reality of the limits of the finite world by embracing the infinite.

    • @valcaron
      @valcaron 3 місяці тому +4

      @@MollyOKami That's a lot of talking despite saying absolutely nothing.

    • @cevaiom9996
      @cevaiom9996 3 місяці тому +2

      ​@valcaron why does it make you so angry that a person would believe in God?

  • @EternalLife42
    @EternalLife42 Місяць тому

    Fraud.

  • @charlesharkleroad9923
    @charlesharkleroad9923 2 місяці тому

    this is next level styff way beyond the traditional norm which has been shown to be a dismal failure.

  • @charlesharkleroad9923
    @charlesharkleroad9923 2 місяці тому

    Liz sweetheart what is viewed as the norm isnt even in this dialog girl.

  • @Triple109
    @Triple109 3 місяці тому

    He is trying to play god.

    • @elizabethk3238
      @elizabethk3238 Місяць тому

      Your simple mind can't seem to understand that he does not believe in your idea of your god! Your mind can't even begin to go where his has gone beyond.