The TRAGIC DOWNFALL of Will Muschamp
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- Will Muschamp was one of the brightest coaches in college football and was supposed to be the Mack Brown successor at Texas, but he left for Florida and eventually South Carolina and got fired this evening, so why did he fail? We will talk about his rise & fall in today’s video, enjoy!
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I would love to get fired and essentially win the lottery.
Same..I would just retire tbh live a stress free life
Nice...
Absolutely! yeah being terminated as a coach at this level.. a little different than most of us here :-)
I mean isn't he still going to get paid anyways by SC because of his contract???? I'm only asking
Quite a nice consolation gift, for sure.
He's a magician. Can instantly turn a team into bullshit.
But that's a talent!
Well AU could snap him up first if they was smart.
That's hilarious
Beat Auburn this year for the first time since 1933.
@@lukeshaw4287 Sometimes weird things happen quite by accident.
I wish I could fail the way Coach Muschamp has failed. He is RAKING in the $$$.
Amen
Yeah, but we'll see how far he falls back this time. He certainly won't end up with a prime HC spot. He'll either end up as a DC in a Power 5 conference or an HC down a few notches. He's had 2 shots as an SEC head coach and petered out after a few years. I just don't think he's got the right personality to lead a program. He's way too hot headed.
But, yeah, I'd like to fail get get paid what he'll get.
@@summerallthetime2616 A mansion indeed, with a 360 degree view of Lake Murray.
Well u gotta be white to pull that off in America 😂
He would have been a very good coach in the seventies. He just never embraced scoring.
haha "never embraced scoring" i love that quote my man
Correct. He approaches offense like it's 1998.
U of SC defense was non existent
That is a VERY interesting point. I've actually never thought about that before.
I’m gonna use that when people ask me about Jeremy Pruitt
Huge Gamecock fan, great guy but couldn’t do anything with the talent he recruited
I thought the problem was poor recruiting.
He always has great defenses but he just loses games somehow. He is still one of the best defensive coordinators you can get. Great guy.
@@lyndonyoung6756 Beamer WON'T be any better. He'll end up being the next Brad Scott. SMH.
You know there's a Muschamp story that keeps interrupting your ads?
If you're watching this on a computer do yourself a favor and download an ad blocker.
As a gamecock fan, I never liked him. I thought it was bad hire from the beginning.
@Patrick MacBride He never was. I think Mack Brown was glad Boom left Texas for UF even though Mack had literally given the Texas job to Boom on a platinum platter.
The real question is why would the bozo's at SC hire this man after what he did at Florida????
Never been to Columbia huh?
It was our idiot AD! We all hated the idea!
@@tedder1931 That man is a baseball coach. Calsen needs to get rid of him soon or were going to end up with mediocrity for years.
@@tedder1931 exactly. We need to fire tanner and t rob
I have asked that same question several hundred times. AND why the huge buy out? Ridiculous.
This content says it all, at the beginning. He was a walk on at UGA. That’s it. Most players, almost every one of his teammates, have been out of football for decades. Will is a multi-millionaire and is still involved in football. He may have failed as an SEC Head Coach in some eyes but he is HUGE success at life. I’m a Gator and I love the guy. Wish he was still our ball coach.
Bet he ends up at Alabama as a “defensive analyst”
U already know lol
Please don’t talk down to people cj
Damn right at Coach Sabans coaching rehab.RTR
Back to LSU as DC
Nah Charlie Strong is
The norv turner and wade phillips of college coaches where he needs to stick to coordinating and is a hell of a recruiter
And dont forget Chan Gailley LOL LOL
At Florida we knew he would fail before even coaching his first game when he announced that he was bringing Charlie Weis in as his OC. Was downhill from the beginning.
Especially when he sat on a cooler while coaching.
@@gordongekko5159 Eating hot dogs!
The Gamecocks have an incredibly supportive fan base, a generous alumni following, some of the best facilities in college football and plenty of money, but we can't seem to find a head coach that can put together consistent winning seasons. This has always been amazingly sad to me.
Spurrier was pretty good lol
That’s what SC deserves for leaving the ACC.
He got paid by South Carolina. He has zero offensive mindset. It shows everywhere he goes. I mean collin hill started for us, really. We have 3 Qb’s that are 4 star or better and we use a guy who’s had 4 knee surgeries.
I still think Hilinsky should be the starter.
not qbs fault you need to get the snap before being rushed.
This is the peter principle at work. Hey, no shame in being good at what your good at even if it's not what you think you should be good at. This guy is a good DC, but not a HC. He needs to know that being DC is his strength and that he's not gifted to be a HC. No shame at all in that. Most D-1 football coaches are not head coaching material in D-1 college football. You see the peter principle play itself out in the business world all the time. The point is that all of us should try to excel at what we are good at and not try to be good at something we were not meant to be good at.
Good defensive coordinator??? Since when ??? 10 yrs ago at Florida with 4 first round draft picks??? Carolina just gave 700 yards, and his recruiting classes have been a joke...
Even when Spurrier was there they couldn’t recruit a QB to save their lives...there’s not a QB on the current roster that could be a winning SEC Quarterback. MusChamp set Carolina football back 10 yrs
@@yabowfarmz5283 Spurrier had some good quarterbacks there, didn't he? Connor Shaw and Stephen Garcia come to mind
@@yabowfarmz5283 Spurrier had some good quarterbacks there, didn't he? Connor Shaw and Stephen Garcia come to mind
@@patrickmcdaniel2048 Connor Shaw was it !!! Garcia was a gifted frat boy who couldn’t get his shit together
@@yabowfarmz5283 when Garcia was focused he was as good as any other college quarterback. He didn't win as many games as he should have. I remember watching the game when they beat Alabama that one year. He definitely had the talent, but yeah... couldn't get his shit together. Too busy get wasted and pulling fire alarms
Will Muschamp never knew how to run an offense. There's been countless OCs under him saying he'd get his hands on the offense and it just didn't work. That's apparent this year. From 2016 to 2020, we had 3 OCs and we always ran run-run-pass-punt, pass-run-run-punt, run-pass-pass-punt, or pass-pass-run-punt. You cannot tell me that he didn't have a hand in calling offensive plays when we had 3 different OCs calling the same plays.
As a clemson fan, THANK god that never happened 😂
I remembered when they hired Muschamp, and I was highly upset because he couldn't win at Florida so how the fuck could he lead the Gamecocks to victory?!?!? But I have a great vibe that Shane Beamer will recruit and have us compete within the SEC!! We need to get back to our winning ways and have our Gamecocks back in the Championship running!!!
He was the Coach in waiting for Mack Brown at Texas!! He’s had opportunities with some great programs where failure shouldn’t have been an option 🏈
His biggest problem? You showed it right at the beginning. All of those clips of him in an Auburn shirt yelling at the refs? Yeah, that was him...as a DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR!!!! You don't get to yell at the officials when you're an ASSISTANT COACH!!!! Head coaches get leeway from the refs. Assistant coaches do not!
He's an egomaniac with a bad temper. He might be a heck of a recruiter and may HAVE BEEN a heck of a DC, but he lacks leadership skills. He's most likely to be one of those coaches that is an excellent DC (most of the time) but just doesn't cut it as an HC. And if he doesn't start to figure out how to control his emotions during the game, he's not going to last very long in any position.
good point!
Yelling at the referees is always a good thing. They deserve all the abuse they get.
@@dibslin985 Maybe that's the case in NASCAR and wrasslin, but not when you're an assistant coach and not when it costs your team an upset win over your in-state rival.
@@craigphillips3154 Which is why yelling at the referee shouldn't be a penalty. The refs have too much power as it is
56-51 all time record and fired twice as a head coach. Better as a coordinator than running the show but he's a good ol' boy so I'm sure he'll get another chance to screw up somewhere else.
There's a chance he could be the Georgia DC as his son is a walk on QB there.
That 56-51 record includes all of his wins over OOC cream puffs like Georgia Southern and Appalachian State. Oh wait...
@Patrick MacBride Muschamp has regressed at the DC level, too. His defense at Auburn between the Florida and South Carolina gigs stunk.
Mans was also quite unlucky to follow two amazing coaches in Urban Meyer and Steve Spurrier, who had given their respective universities high expectations
Great point!
We loved him here at Texas. He's a heck of a DC. His fiery demeanor worked as a DC. I'm sure you Florida and SC people would know better but it didn't seem to work there. When he was DC at Texas, he brought an edge to the team that helped us go 25-2 between 2008-2009. Having Colt McCoy helped. But that fiery edge Muschamp brought was balanced out by a seasoned HC in Mack Brown. Mack was clearly in charge so Muschamp could go psycho to his hearts content. But when you're the head coach, you have to be more in control and that's just not Muschamp.
Good video overall. I want to offer a correction that Rich Rod was never offered the South Carolina job. The confusion is understandable because for some reason Rich Rod himself claimed this, but everyone in the know has come out and said that he was not offered and essentially lied. The Muschamp hire was a disaster. He's a nice guy and I wish him the best but hopefully the coaching search goes better this time.
“The coach in waiting at Texas”
I did not like Will Muschamp from the first game I saw him coach with the Gators. And then the embarrassing loss to Georgia Southern was the last straw for me and that was early in his tenure. He tried to blame that loss on not preparing properly to defend the triple option. We all said ,"but I thought he's a defensive minded guy. How can that be?" I never liked him and I was glad he was gone. I might have not said that had I known who our next coach would be, the disastrous Jim Mcelwaine. I'm really excited to have an Urban Myer alum, Dan Mullen, now coaching us. But no, I never liked Will Mischamp. #GoGators
After the 2014 season, Jeremy Fool-ey could have eased the pain of us Gators by hiring Dan Mullen as MusDumps replacement. But no, he goes all the way to Colorado to find a Butter teeth coach named McElwain. If Mullen was hired for the 2015 season, he would have inherited Will Grier(without the roids or whatever it was he bought "off the counter") and a bad ass defense. We all saw how Will Grier and Treon Harris were poorly coached by Butter McElwain and Doug Nussmeier. About the only thing Butters and Nuss did right was find a well ignored QB in Texas named Kyle Trask.
I guess having Dan Mullen is better late than never. I also hear the Miami fans haven't forgiven Donna Shalalalalalalalala for whiffing out on hiring Dan Mullen back in 2014, if I remember correctly.
I still give him a a pass. We were so injured in 2013.
I walked out of that Mizz game that year. It was ridiculous.
I tried to like him, but couldn’t. Always rooted for the Gators to win, but still...
@@gordongekko5159
JF doesn’t like Mullen, and he believes himself to be a hiring genius. He should have been forced to pay the coaches their buyouts. But, he wasn’t playing with his own money, but our money.
I am a FL Gator and the main down fall of a Muschamp team is lack of discipline and lack of attention to detail.
Should've stayed at Texas
Well, he's been fired and made a multimillionaire by not one but two teams. I doubt he regrets it.
Glad that he didn't coach at Texas -UT grad
He was given golden opportunities, especially at Florida. He failed miserably.
He's a decent recruiter, very nice guy, love him as a person, extraordinary defensive coordinator but cannot recruit or use offensive players for squat, and clearly cant lead and inspire teams to want to win, most likely bc he's horrible at offense. He needs to stick to defense. Hes pretty damn good at it. As a South Carolina fan, it's night and day difference in terms of the energy and morale of the Gamecocks from Muschamp to Beamer, although essentially being the exact same team. And you can see the aftermath of Muschamp in the 2021 season- Killer defense, absolutely no offense. When you have to start 4 different QBs all year to try and get something going, youve got a serious problem.
Will Muschamp: Great D Coordinator, nothing more than that.
He's not a great coordinator either; he just worked under Saban and Mac Brown.
@@andrewr4792 He had top 10 defenses with Texas, LSU, & Auburn. His defenses ranked high in total defense, passing & scoring defense. I’ll give him the credit.
He has a reputation as a recruiter but that is overshadowed by his ability to hire agents! This guy is a freaking genius!
As a Gator fan I’d love for him to come back as DC
Can't be worse then TG
Yes, get rid of grantham. He sucks
Did you see how terrible SC was on D the last few years?
As a Bama fan, I would love to see Muschamp at Florida.
Some coaches are an will be a great assistant coach that`s all,an some assistant coach become a head coach an win! Muschamp is an example of this.Great DC,but fired as head coach at two division 1 schools,at Fla. an S.C. two good years an then down hill. Hey FLA.St. you need a DC!!!
How could he possibly have the most wins through 3 years and the most losses through 4 years....that is insane.
Great recruiter, especially on defense. Gators were loaded with 4 and 5 star talent on defense, but he ran a Bo Schembechler offense which cost him. At least he opened it up at SC, but Georgia, Florida and Clemson became an automatic 3 losses. No room for error beyond those 3 games.
Muschamp: I've got a great idea! Let's run a play over and over again successfully until we get a slight lead and then never run the play that works again! We can just depend on my brilliance as a defensive-minded coach to keep the other team from scoring.
Under no circumstances should SC hire Chad Morris......I wouldn't wish that on ANY team.....except maybe Auburn.
He would be perfect coaching the South Central Louisiana State University Mud Dogs. High quality H2O
With any kind of investment portfolio I would guess he's sitting on a minimum of 20-30 million with SC on the hook to pay him an additional $12 million. He seems to fail upward.
you are not wrong
2 things a South Carolina fan hopes for
A win against clemson
And a clemson loss
Hell I think everybody Hope's for a Clemson loss. I'm a Bama fan and I can't stand the cheating bastards. Showed up for the N.C. game vs Bama a couple years back with most of the team jacked up on steroids. Dabo said it was something in the tooth paste!! Lol that cheating POS
@@paulalexander2176 Please, Bama is the best team best team money can buy, everyone knows it. Who goes 6-7 in there first year, then proceed to sign 9 straight #1 recruiting classes? A cheating Bama that's who. BTW why don't you ask the players about Deer Antler spray and Testosterone injections while your'e at it. You sound like a fool!
THANK GOD
Some coaches can coach but can't recruit... Muschamp is a D-cordinator I wouldn't be surprised if LSU doesn't try to offer him alot to be that right now...💯💯💯
Examine Derrick Mason and why he hasn't been fired
At least I can give Derrick Mason a pass. Vandy is not in the Football business.
He just got fired
@@sanforddennis9793 James Franklins record there before mason? Also, I wouldn't consider them a basketball school. Mason has turned them into a joke.
@@sanforddennis9793 Plus he put a female to play for them, enough said
May want to update your statement.
He got fired at SC because they gave up 159 points in 3 games and he is supposed to be some defensive guru
His defenses are legitimately great. His game management and influence on the offense are some of the worst. His recruiting is also problematic.... landing some great guys but not being able to get the right number of guys for each position. baffling.
I had to go through this (as a kid) for 7 years I'm now 12 and I'm overjoyed that we have the future Heisman trophy winner #11eisman
#Trask4Heisman
If he changed his offense at Florida gators it would have been different.
He will be at Bama this week talking with Saban about a DC position
Kentucky
Lilbuck: nope him and Saban don't get along. I would be shocked if Saban hired him and even more shocked if Muschamp applied for a DC position at Bama.
The Florida QBs under Mushchamp were average, the running backs near elite The OL could block, WR could not catch the deep ball and Defense was good just could not beat Bama. I think if they changed the offense from a pro style offense and had a more disciplined team and QB the results would been different. All I remember during the time was many QB changes and undisciplined offenses even after Mushchamp at Florida. I think that 2011 squad might have been better with the pistol or option offense since they like to run the ball more and the OL was another level.
Carolina is a tough job in a tough conference and MUSSCHAMP simply wasn’t up to it.
Great episode. I am a UVA fan. Al Groh and Mike London would be great spots to do.
London would be cool. Did u see my latest video about Olamide Zaccheus. I know you are a UVA fan
When he was at Florida he pissed away Lamar Jackson,Derrick Henry,dalvin cook
none of those people played at UF...?
They were talent that Muschump whiffed on.
@@derekdrayer4999 no because will wanted Lamar to play HB he want Derrick to play LB and he wanted dalvin to play WR
No reason why Lamar wasn't a Gator
@R. Guardia yup we had the lead on but will fucked that up
Huge Gator fan. Will Muschamp might be the best defense coach out there but he could never get the offense going. Good recruiter too except for QBs. Love his passion though and wish him the best.
So many great coaches go through Valdosta St University
USC's in-state rival is a perennial national championship contender and USC has average to below average facilities and tradition and fans just go to games to get drunk. Its a tough gig for anyone.
Huge Gator Fan. It seemed Muschamp was hired at Florida to clean up the mess (thugs) Urban recruited. South Carolina hired him to recruit talent after Spurrier resigned. The Gators and the Gamecocks were playing as if Ray Goff was coaching them. Both teams had strong defenses and boring offenses. I knew when Kirby Smart hired him at UGA they would defeat Bama and become National Champs. Will can coach defense and recruit!
Granted he did bring in some of the best talent the university of South Carolina has seen (i.e Javon Kinlaw, Jaycee Horn, Deebo Samuel, Skai Moore, Bryan Edwards) he has to be the worst at the actual coaching part. Constantly lets the defense get shredded apart without making changes, has a qb battle just to turn around and rename the starting qb who is doing less than a true freshman was last year, brought in a oc that is deciding to have half of the playbook be I-form or other 21/22 personnel sets in 2020. And he took our best corner and just stuck him in the slot vs ole miss when they don’t have an amazing big body receiver that he match well against. He shouldn’t have been in the slot guarding Elijah Moore, and the worst part was when ever Elijah beat them deep, it wasn’t even Jaycee Horns fault because they were running a weird ass cover 3 that looked more like cover 1 zone.
He is a really good defensive coordinator who's ceiling is being a headcoach. He will probably end up getting a defensive end coordinator job for a bit then get a head coaching job at a school that nobody really wants. South Carolina isn't a job everyone wanted and I don't know who they go out and get at this point
Fitness - This may be like Tennessee recently where they couldn't get their first few choices to come there.
@@christhornton1785 Exactly. Especially in this current season, keeping him on for one more year isn't the end of the world. And then go out and look for new replacement
Barry Odom was a good defensive coordinator for us at Mizzou
yeahhh not a good HC tho
He won at Georgia last season! and promptly went 4-8 while eSECpn continued to praise Georgia and continually consider them top 5 when they clearly arent............
I want Muschamp back at Florida as DC, if he is willing to take a 1M salary I will welcome him back with open arms
Oh and why do you give a crap what his salary is? Are you going to pay him? If not why should you give a shit what they pay the dude?
listening to this as a die hard born and raised carolina fan it’s refreshing to hear someone from the outside show some common sense about this clown.. thank god he’s gone
I hated to see Will Muschamp get fired from both Florida and South Carolina. He had his ups and downs at Florida and South Carolina but he was an okay head coach but couldn't have success at Florida and South Carolina!!!
I am a big fan of South Carolina and I have stuck by Muschamp since he has been at usc since the beginning when everyone else did not like him, but it was time to fire him. I saw that I was wrong and if a coach can’t a least be ranked top 25 every year with a top 15 recruiting class every year he is a bad coach.
horrible news! thank you for sharing!
Maybe time to enter the "Nick Saban School for coach rehabilitation"?
Isn't Sarkisian ready to check out of the 12 Step Program?
Some guys are just not meant to be head coaches. He will once again be a defensive coordinator for somebody.
Will Muschamp inherited a horrible state of a program. We had barley any modern facilities and recruits were going down with spurrier’s departure inevitable. He did lots of great things for this program off the field and that should be recognized.
Why does anyone think USC can compete in the SEC. The two coaches before Muschamp were among the best college coaches of all time and they could not win!
Get ready to do the rise and fall of Justin fuente
Yep, you can see that coming a mile away. Va Tech has neatly placed itself into the middle of the pack in the Coastal. That won't cut it
Still waiting on "The Rise And Fall Of Chris Ash" video.
I would love to get paid every year millions to do literally less than nothing and not be called a thief.
💡💡💡
Mans looks like coach Taylor if he put on some extra weight 😂
South Carolina definitely needs to up there recruiting game, I do see why it’s hard for them, they aren’t exactly talented enough as a state for in state recruiting to work like UNC is doing right now, but they aren’t good enough as a program to draw big names from other states, not to mention, they also run their recruits off, I have 2 friends and teammates that seemed like they were both definitely going to South Carolina together, but one of them told me a few months ago that South Carolina basically cut him off and stopped recruiting him even tho he was a 4 star
Howard Schnellenberger would be a good coach story !! National Title winner to getting fired at OU. And starting a new program from Scratch.
The word "Great" and Will Muschamp should not be used in the same sentence. A "great" defensive coach does not give up over 150 points in 3 games.
I had a lot of fun with this one, what coach should i do next?
James Franklin or Jim Harbaugh
Les miles
Les miles
why Les miles failed at lsu
Looks like Les will be the next one!
At least he won two nattys as an assiatant coach since this video came out
Best example of great coordinator that couldn’t translate into a great Head Coach.
Although I wish we could’ve had him after Mack left. Texas just got soft once coach boom went to Florida
I'm a Florida fan. My homeboy is a Gamecock fan. I told him... it was a bad hire. I didnt like him when Florida hired him. He wasn't an offensive minded coach and thats what Florida is about. Muschamp can recruit talent except QB. Also HE CAN NOT COACH THOSE TALENT. He can not hire assistant coaches. He's not a great HC. If some lower tier school like Group 5 or FCS hire him..... good but Power 5. Nope./
Do rise and fall of les miles
As an Oklahoma State fan I would love that!
Muschamp is a good coach just not for southcarolina plus you got to have the players to execute the game plan do honestly he is a great mentor and guy coaching is harder than most think
I’m late to the party, but I honestly remember telling a friend that he would bring my beloved Gators to “several national titles.” Whoops. I’d like to retract that one, your honor.
Muschamp had one of the best QB rosters in the nation his first year at UF, Jeff Driskel and Jacoby Brissette are currently both on NFL rosters and have been starters in the NFL, both left UF, John Brantley was a 5-star recruit coming out of HS, and finally Tyler Murphy made an NFL roster as an athlete, if you look at the offensive roster at UF his first two years it contained numerous NFL players at every position, RB, OL, WR, TE, all had NFL players.....the fact that his offense was terrible is one of the most colossal coaching blunders of all time....
wow. I did not realize there was that much talent. I knew Brissett and Driskel but not about Brantley or Murphy
@@ScottFisherCFB that's is just the start, I went back and looked at the 2011 roster his first year at UF, 26-27 players on that roster made NFL rosters, 16 of them on offense...including all 3 RBs on the team..yet the team went 7-6, he wasted more offensive talent than any coach in modern college football history IMO...
From 2010-2016 (-ish) I thought Mack Brown had screwed Texas by not retiring and handing the reins over to WM after grooming him for the gig. Now I see they dodged a bullet... oh , except they took another bullet. ferk.
Great defensive coordinator, and a great recruiter, but not a great head coach. Some team that picks him up as their DC is gonna have a great asset there
As a Dawg fan I can see a video like this about Kirby Smart soon...
Kirby Dumb Dumb says says kiss his ass, and rub his tum tum.
I’m a lifelong Gamecock fan and I really love Muschamp as a man. He’s an awesome recruiter, he’s a very strong mentor to his players and he’s a hell of a nice guy. I would love to keep him as a defensive coordinator and recruiter. I wish him all the best. He deserves it.
Great DC. He’s like many of Saban’s defensive assistants. They all share the mindset that great defense wins Championships. They don’t want an aggressive, risk taking offense.to ruin their season.
Jake Bentley was a good quarterback, he just didn’t fit their system
Nah he was trash
Love this guy defensively if he could get someone like sark as a offensive coordinator he really could win a chip. I really do think that’s why coach o won with LSU he had joe Brady and he is a great defensive coach.
As a Gamecocks fan I wasn't thrilled with the hire but I was willing to see what he could do. Now I know. Very disappointing.
Muschamp needs to go back to Florida as a Defensive coordinator
Too much of a meathead. Head Coaches who are meatheads fail miserably. See Mike Dubose, Ray Goff etc.
Don't much care about the SEC though I will say I'm no fan of Dan Mullen at UF. My main concern is wondering if Bill Snyder is the only person capable of winning at K-State.
Time will tell on Muschamp. When he was a Head Coach he was too defensive minded, he didn't put in enough care for his offense. When he had his one year stint with Auburn as a DC his defense was ranked very low in the conference. He may have been at the top of his field at one point, but it seems, to a degree, the game has passed him by, especially in the offense heavy SEC. Perhaps he should steer clear of the SEC and look elsewhere.
Just because someone is a great coordinator doesn't mean they'll be a great coach. Way too much pressure is put on great coordinators that try to be coaches. Going from leading the defense to leading the whole team is a very difficult.
He and Kirby smart are alike. No offense, good defense, and good recruiting. Didn’t they play together???? Lol
There is absolutely nothing tragic about this. No one died. He just lost his job.