Toyota Fortuner vs Ford Endeavour | Offroading comparison | India | 2018

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  • @girishbehera999
    @girishbehera999 6 років тому +54

    Offroading ka diploma , degree main isi channel se seekh rha hu . All the videos are awsum , but this particular video is purely educational , great explanations , thankyou sir and team 👍

  • @AutoMatriX11
    @AutoMatriX11 6 років тому +103

    Ill put my money on gypsy 😂thug life...

  • @dr.gri5
    @dr.gri5 6 років тому +23

    This is by far the most satisfying off-roading video review. Truly made for the cars in a way to pump out every drop of features they all possess. Unlike other reviews where a 4WDs r being driven on highways ONLY !!! But sadly, most owners just prefer sitting at the back. Very few owners like in this video who do justice and take their cars for such an exam. One small suggestion sir.
    In every case, Toyota was kept last to attend the hurdle. So I felt, after multiple attempts in different cars on the same surface, they dig out everything and make a harder track for the fortuner to attend. So maybe next time you might wanna randomise the cars. 😊

  • @pramit7745
    @pramit7745 6 років тому +106

    I feel the Endeavour is little bit better..💓 But i love the design of Fortuner

  • @robin4046
    @robin4046 6 років тому +14

    I am very impressed by the endeavour's performance. great improvement over the last generation, looks and off-road capability both have improved.

  • @ayusharya7193
    @ayusharya7193 6 років тому +9

    The main concern for the Ford Endeavour is the extra 200kg weight upon its rival Fortuner.

  • @SahilShaikh-nd1qr
    @SahilShaikh-nd1qr 6 років тому +14

    7:12 if u r driving endeavour on 4 × 4 mode...and giving full throttle...why arent those two front wheel spinning?????

    • @Anshyuman
      @Anshyuman  4 роки тому +3

      Ford Endeavour comes with an Active Centre differential, the car choses when to engage 4wd, and how much power goes to front diff. Driver has no way to lock 4wd.

    • @shockwave2477
      @shockwave2477 4 роки тому

      @@Anshyuman Isn't that similar to an AWD system?

  • @RahulSharma-tt3eg
    @RahulSharma-tt3eg 5 років тому +18

    I love❤feautures of endeavour and design of fortuner👍

  • @1mackaus
    @1mackaus 4 роки тому

    Video and expert comments have helped in deciding the car out of fortuner and endeavour. I bought fortuner automatic because of low maintenance and value for money. Thanks Anshuman and friends !!

  • @nitinrathi4528
    @nitinrathi4528 6 років тому +21

    Now thats an amazing video. Is Endy’s TC even working at least i dont feel so. Another observation here is most of the the obstacles were forst attempted by endy which made it more difficult for the fort. None the less both cars are evenly matched in AT variants. But i will still put my money on a manual Fortuner whenever its time to make the next move.

  • @praveenkp07
    @praveenkp07 4 роки тому +1

    Hey Anshuman, is it possible to review the new endeavour bs6. Wanted to check how it runs with the 2.0 engine and TMS checks..

  • @saurabhsaini992
    @saurabhsaini992 6 років тому +2

    Very clear point .
    If u want an SUV with more on road drive, simply choose an endeavour 2.2 titanium automatic as 3.2 seems an overkill with difference on the 2 engines is visible only past 130 kmph and 3.2 costs a bomb over the 2.2.
    Maintenance of a 3.2 4x4 will also be more and fuel economy also takes a toll.
    In my opinion, manual cars r better then automatic cars when pure off roading is concerned as shown in this video .
    If off road consists of more than 30% of the total driver than a fortuner 4x4 manual will be the best bet.

    • @Anshyuman
      @Anshyuman  6 років тому +4

      For you information- Endeavour 2.2 is no longer available in 4x4 version, neither in Automatic nor in Manual.

    • @saurabhsaini992
      @saurabhsaini992 6 років тому

      @@Anshyuman that's why I prefer 2.2 endy for onroad purposes .
      Suspension tuning is also more biased for highway purposes.

  • @Ghotra121
    @Ghotra121 6 років тому +3

    Most awaited Video....😍 👌👌👌👌👍👍 Thank you Bishnoi ji

  • @prithvikanchan9781
    @prithvikanchan9781 6 років тому +3

    And what about the central diff lock in fortuner??
    Is it discontinued in the new model??

    • @Anshyuman
      @Anshyuman  4 роки тому +1

      There is no center diff because its a part time 4wd now, proper 4x4 when offroading, 2wd when not offroading.
      Endeavour on the other end has an active center diff, electronics decide when and how much power the front diff will get, works great mostly, but sometimes misjudges . Driver has no control over center diff.

  • @PatilsNinad
    @PatilsNinad 6 років тому +9

    What about the build quality and long term reliability ?

    • @bikrammann2749
      @bikrammann2749 6 років тому +22

      Ninad Patil build quality and toughness it’s ford , for long run or reliability it’s Toyota . What I believe and experienced.

    • @abhishektripathi6031
      @abhishektripathi6031 6 років тому +2

      Bikram Mann right

  • @dr.anuragchaudhary504
    @dr.anuragchaudhary504 6 років тому +19

    What a video sir really loved it.... Sometimes it's the car which takes the driver but everytime it's the driver who takes the car.. And you are the best of all sir hat's off to u.....

  • @vishoo69
    @vishoo69 6 років тому +1

    I also very confused between these two suv which one should buy.People do not face like these type of obstacles in daily life .so,sir please suggest me which one should better to buy which have a more comfort drive.

  • @hafsal_hfl
    @hafsal_hfl 6 років тому +4

    It's amazing comparison. A big clap for ur effort.

  • @sahiljain5892
    @sahiljain5892 6 років тому +7

    Most awaited video for me

  • @ajcajc5318
    @ajcajc5318 6 років тому +4

    Hi Anshuman and team, another great video. Though I like endeavour a lot and specs sound better, atleast to me it looks like fortuner struggles a bit less than the endy. And vcross is doing its best i suppose with open diff, will share it in the vcross group..

  • @johannskaria
    @johannskaria 6 років тому +24

    Good to see SuZie, the MH Endy back in action.
    What a thorough comparison. At the end of the day it comes down to a heart brain fight. The brain says TFort while the heart longs for Endy :).
    It feels damn good to see SUV owners putting their machines to full use.
    A great video Anshyuman sir.

  • @anavkapoorrr
    @anavkapoorrr 6 років тому +1

    Hi, could you please do an off-roading comparison between the Pajero sport and the new endeavour? Thanks :)

  • @yashvardhansinghsolanki6391
    @yashvardhansinghsolanki6391 6 років тому +4

    Loved the video, but the biggest bottleneck with endy 3.2 is that it is a guzzler. While my uncle new fortuner gives fuel efficiency of around 10 in the city and highway is around 13. 1 thing is ASSURED if you are a more logical pragmatic buyer and looking for peace of mind fortuner is the one for you, while if you re the one who goes with your heart and emotions its the endy that TAKES the lead.

  • @Shubhankar648
    @Shubhankar648 6 років тому +2

    Well nice work anshuman sir i m a big fan of ur videos...I found endeavour more better buy because basically people don't do much off roading and it offers a 3.2 litre engine which is better than Fortuner but I found that Fortuner looked better in terms of off roading...Well anshuman sir thanks for posting this interesting video.

  • @EngMecanica-wd9ed
    @EngMecanica-wd9ed 6 років тому +2

    HI guys dou you have any Amarok to compare to your other vehicles? I think it has the best traction control of them all.

  • @praveensharma4211
    @praveensharma4211 6 років тому +1

    Very nice comparison, and is actually meaningful that not anybody with a phone and Internet can generate such a class leading comparison. I guess It is the only video of true offloading comparison of these two cars on you tube which I have seen so far. Worth watching. Thanks for this

  • @sohanidevi1345
    @sohanidevi1345 4 роки тому +1

    Endeavour 3.2 manual me aati h kya

  • @josem6929
    @josem6929 6 років тому +3

    Awesome comparison! Keep up the amazing job. Question. Please confirm if traction control in the endeavour is not cancelled when 4 low and rear diff lock is activated?

    • @Anshyuman
      @Anshyuman  6 років тому +5

      There are two levels of traction control in these cars, engine tcs and brake tcs. Engine tcs has to be off else it cuts down all the power, brake tcs has to be on as it brakes the free spinning wheel. I personally ensured both cars were in right modes and correct technique was adhered to. I drove on some of the trickier obstacles.

    • @josem6929
      @josem6929 6 років тому

      Thanks for your reply. Once again awesome job!

  • @77bond
    @77bond 6 років тому +4

    Endy ruined the 3rd obstacle and the fortuner was kept last.. or else the ATRAC would’ve made it easily.. that’s what i feel..
    Anyway superb video as always👍🏼

  • @AzharAlvisPercepts
    @AzharAlvisPercepts 6 років тому +7

    in a country of the blind (open diffs), the one eyed men (partial diff locks/uneven traction control) rule the roost.
    Its ironic that in a nation plagued with roads where you actually might need TCs and DLs to get you out of ditches, the only vehicle that actually offers them is the Force Gurkha. And we all know what kind of power there is under the hood.
    The important argument though is that traction control is the way of the future. Differential locks are great but they limit steering movement. On the other hand, just apply the brake on the wheel with least traction and route the power to the others. Thats what TC does, and its brilliant.

    • @Anshyuman
      @Anshyuman  6 років тому +5

      Gurkha is a Dinosaur, makes no sense in today's age and time.
      I agree Diff locks require advanced driving skills, else one can end up with a repair bills running into lakhs in no time. However for people who know their stuff nothing like Diff locks, our group is slowly moving towards aftermarker diff locks, 2 of the cars have already got Airlockers(testing this weekend) and other like me are next in queue.
      It is amazing how much difference a well tuned traction control can make, and it requires no extra hardware, any ESP/TCS equipped car can use the same hardware for active traction control. And top of it all, it requires no special skills to operate traction control.

    • @deepjyotilahkar6866
      @deepjyotilahkar6866 6 років тому +3

      Lmao even a beggar will spit on Gurkha . Ugly , dated , ancient , no tech , only skeleton

    • @AzharAlvisPercepts
      @AzharAlvisPercepts 6 років тому +2

      For that same reason TC is the way of the future, just like automatic transmissions are getting better and better. In fact, hard core 4x4 enthusiasts now prefer automatics over manual, and the same would eventually go to diff locks.
      However, for a purist, the classic age of the automobile is where he'll go. Even I love the mechanical wonders of the diff locks and those two levers that activate them. Some things should never change

  • @ricoburnett4706
    @ricoburnett4706 4 роки тому

    Excellent video guys - really enjoyed watching you putting the vehicles through their paces!

  • @biswadeep12
    @biswadeep12 6 років тому +2

    Loved watching it...please post some more comparison videos of both the beasts.

  • @maheshreddy4046
    @maheshreddy4046 5 років тому +3

    Endeavour was 😎 cool man

  • @kartikkumarverma3976
    @kartikkumarverma3976 6 років тому +2

    Can you make a offroading comparison between ISUZU MUX and Fortuner ??

    • @Anshyuman
      @Anshyuman  6 років тому +2

      Sorry, we don't have MUX with anyone we know.

    • @kartikkumarverma3976
      @kartikkumarverma3976 6 років тому +1

      No problem Thanks for reply👍👍

  • @JashandeepSingh739
    @JashandeepSingh739 5 років тому +6

    This is the true comparison between two real SUV. Amazing video sir and I guess fortuner is quite overpriced and lack some features. Endeavour performed every task quite beautifully.

  • @vishalganatra7719
    @vishalganatra7719 6 років тому +2

    even i perefer the endeavour over the fortunner . but the only thing that gets me double minded is the below average traction control system . at many instances i have seen one the front wheels spinning endlessly without tranfering any torque to the other coz of which i have seen the Endy struggling even with rear diff locks on ( i have also seen same thing happening to Everests in australia )
    so my question is , isnt installing an Arb locker in the front diff the solution to this one flaw that Endy has . i think with front diffs installed and factory fitted rear diffs Endy will be an unstoppable Suv along with all the other off roading features it comes with .
    so is it advisable to install a front diff lock ??

    • @Anshyuman
      @Anshyuman  6 років тому

      Almost all cars here come with IFS(Independent front suspension), which is relatively much less robust and has less abuse taking ability compared to front Solid Axle equipped 4x4's. Now with IFS, using locker on front axle will require high levels of expertise, even then the risk of damage will too high. The CV Joints, Tie end joints, the diff assembly rupture in no time....the damage can run into lakhs in no time.
      Even usage of rear diff lock requires a lot of precautions, the reason no manufacturer is interested in giving it as OE option in India(Endy OE rear diff lock has electronic overrides to prevent damage, this kind of override can also result in unpredictable behaviour, diff lock not available when you need it the most).
      Both the Fortuner and Endeavour are very capable in stock form, to outperform the capability of the cars requires good skills or foolishness. I wouldn't recommend modifications on Endeavour anyways, the electronics are just too complex.

  • @kartikjain754
    @kartikjain754 6 років тому +2

    As Expected amazing comparison by Anshuman sir.🙂🙂

  • @rohitdhanda2061
    @rohitdhanda2061 6 років тому +21

    Very nice video. They seem neck to neck in Auto-Transmission variants. Like we have said earlier as well, as a product, Endy is a superior package, but on some trails Billi has upper hand, primarily due to superior tuning of TC and slight advantage of weight (remember in offroad, every single kilo counts).

  • @LooseGravel
    @LooseGravel 5 років тому +1

    Perfect and honest work. Really thanks for making this

  • @saranshjolly8574
    @saranshjolly8574 6 років тому +6

    Amazing video!!
    I don't think there is a better comparison available, whether on-line or off-line, of these cars capabilities!
    Hats off Mr. Moderator

  • @nedalsharah2656
    @nedalsharah2656 6 років тому

    Which better for offroad : Toyota Fortuner 4 cylinder 2018 vs Toyota RAV4 2019 adventure model ?

    • @Anshyuman
      @Anshyuman  6 років тому +3

      Fortuner is better offroad

  • @sandeeproy3120
    @sandeeproy3120 6 років тому +4

    Really amazing of you to have a fair comparison :-) kudos

  • @kool2cool
    @kool2cool 6 років тому

    Hey Anshuman sir, can we put aftermarket diff locker is vcross?

  • @yashwantkarol1153
    @yashwantkarol1153 6 років тому +20

    Impressed by fortuner's active traction control.It would have been a mean machine with diff locks on both differentials.

  • @mohithellscream
    @mohithellscream 6 років тому

    Where can i get some nice quality tow rope and jumper cables ?

  • @manishsandhu248
    @manishsandhu248 6 років тому +13

    Another awsome video, now this is answer to most of on going queries on off-road capabilities of New Endy vs New Fort. IMHO Endy as a overall package, T Fort for reliability and peace of mind

  • @ameyparkar960
    @ameyparkar960 3 роки тому +2

    Fortuner is best❤😍😍

  • @Meena_r2h
    @Meena_r2h 6 років тому +11

    Wow !! Nice video , Fortu is better than Endy for offroading . even without rear diff lock it did obstacles easily while endy were struggling alot .

    • @pranavsharma934
      @pranavsharma934 6 років тому +5

      Bro see others video of off-roading between these two cars in this channel you will come to know endeavour is a lot better than fortuner

  • @rajasharma331
    @rajasharma331 6 років тому +3

    You deserve 30x more subscribers sir

  • @sanitsrivastava1519
    @sanitsrivastava1519 6 років тому +2

    great video sir, Endeavour is from Panvel Maharastra

  • @yuyutsuchinaria50
    @yuyutsuchinaria50 6 років тому +5

    Try some compact SUVs too😊😊

  • @shreevardhan8322
    @shreevardhan8322 6 років тому +3

    Loved it !!!!!!!

  • @bajrangkulriya7740
    @bajrangkulriya7740 6 років тому

    sir toyota fortuner aur ford everest dono me se
    off road me sahi konsi he

    • @Anshyuman
      @Anshyuman  6 років тому

      Watch the Fortuner vs Endeavour video from last week

  • @DIEIPAK
    @DIEIPAK 6 років тому +5

    Very impressive off roading video 👍🏽 ... very much satisfy with this comparison...
    thnkew buddy

  • @nishaantrajendran1955
    @nishaantrajendran1955 6 років тому

    How about the pajero sport plz compare it too ...

  • @mohammedasif4236
    @mohammedasif4236 5 років тому +1

    Real off road test... Thanks to this team work..

  • @abdulhakeem3845
    @abdulhakeem3845 6 років тому +1

    awesome vedio ...thank u for this amazing vedio...

  • @sumitjames9775
    @sumitjames9775 5 років тому

    hey anshuman. great video.. i am eagerly waiting for you guys to take the new jeep compass trailhawk offroad. and preferably for mud plugging

    • @Anshyuman
      @Anshyuman  5 років тому

      Checkout the latest video. Although its short clip only.

  • @premminocha1665
    @premminocha1665 6 років тому +1

    I have seen all your videos and I think in some previous videos endeavour's traction control was doing good, it was a white endeavour, I think there is some issue with this endeavour's traction system

    • @Anshyuman
      @Anshyuman  6 років тому +3

      There is no issue with the car

  • @navineshsharma1029
    @navineshsharma1029 4 роки тому

    Bahut mza hai vishnoi bhai

  • @kishansinghkishansingh5154
    @kishansinghkishansingh5154 3 роки тому +1

    Very nice

  • @tomasbueno6261
    @tomasbueno6261 6 років тому

    The fortuner is 2.8 diesel?

  • @manpreetmann3095
    @manpreetmann3095 6 років тому +1

    I wanna see pajero sport with superselect 4wd 2.

  • @Jyu_voile_grace
    @Jyu_voile_grace 6 років тому

    Props to you for doing this!

  • @prathamkinjavadekar8096
    @prathamkinjavadekar8096 6 років тому +1

    Does endeavour comes with rear Locking Differential or some electronics ?

    • @Anshyuman
      @Anshyuman  6 років тому +6

      Rear diff lock, terrain modes, Active traction control...all of them

    • @prathamkinjavadekar8096
      @prathamkinjavadekar8096 6 років тому +1

      Anshuman Bishnoi...I knew about the terrain modes and Active Traction control but was not sure about DIFF LOCKS anyways thank you sir

  • @rakshitkhairnar
    @rakshitkhairnar 6 років тому

    GREAT VIDEO !!!!!!

  • @thenikhilkukreja
    @thenikhilkukreja 4 роки тому +1

    What do you think of new endeavour engine bs 6🤣🤣

    • @Anshyuman
      @Anshyuman  4 роки тому +2

      Underpowered and narrow powerband

    • @sarthaktrivedi3785
      @sarthaktrivedi3785 4 роки тому

      @@Anshyuman sir, is the next generation version of ford Endeavour Completely different in looks than the current generation Endeavour??

    • @deerghayuphukan1215
      @deerghayuphukan1215 4 роки тому

      @@sarthaktrivedi3785 yes totally different

  • @rakishansh
    @rakishansh 6 років тому +1

    Thankyou for the much awaited comparison

  • @aashishmittal2375
    @aashishmittal2375 6 років тому +1

    Thanks a lot

  • @ShimlaGamer
    @ShimlaGamer 4 роки тому +2

    Haha Fortuner have alot better electronic setup, active traction control of fortuner works like differential .. it just be low on features than endeavour but on offroading front fortuner is always a better machine than endeavour and talk about Toyota reliability.. it's not a joke that ford have really poor and expensive after sales service!

  • @prakashtej7020
    @prakashtej7020 6 років тому

    Have received UA-cam silver play button??????

  • @arshdeepsingh5966
    @arshdeepsingh5966 6 років тому +6

    Both cars were eqaul

  • @mitulpatel509
    @mitulpatel509 6 років тому

    Nice and informative video banaya hai

  • @psnelsonseban
    @psnelsonseban 6 років тому +3

    Hey great review guys!

  • @hariharansubramanian
    @hariharansubramanian 6 років тому +3

    Great 🔥

  • @robin4046
    @robin4046 6 років тому

    didn't knew endeavour and fortuner were this capable!!!!

  • @anishriv
    @anishriv 6 років тому +1

    Simply Superb 👍👍👍

  • @adrianw3985
    @adrianw3985 6 років тому

    These vehicles need some Off-road worthy tires. Greetings from Arizona.

  • @adilmulla4234
    @adilmulla4234 6 років тому +3

    It's cool

  • @ritikambawat927
    @ritikambawat927 4 роки тому

    Video is best

  • @JackSparrow-tx2sw
    @JackSparrow-tx2sw 6 років тому +1

    Nice video sir

  • @cydjunaid3324
    @cydjunaid3324 6 років тому +1

    mai aap kii sub vedios dektah hun but sir kya ye cars Snow mai chal sakthi haii

    • @nitinnanda2471
      @nitinnanda2471 6 років тому

      C YD JUNAID Any car but use snow chains....

  • @prateekjoyphukan2116
    @prateekjoyphukan2116 6 років тому +1

    What made u say that the endeavour is a better value for money

  • @AshokKumar-hn2qt
    @AshokKumar-hn2qt 6 років тому

    Both cars are very good but apart from india the endeavour is the only car for off road abilities, ergonomic look, and not at all cheap cost comparing to others in this segment.. In indian market they reduce the price slightly.. Fortuner is reliable only in India apart from that doesn't come with features what we spend.. And the build quality is poor at this price range.. Comparing to new fortuner old is bold and good..

  • @hemantdangi
    @hemantdangi 6 років тому +2

    Niceee

  • @shailovchauhan958
    @shailovchauhan958 4 роки тому

    Such a shame that Ford stopped the 3.2 lt model.
    What a beast!

  • @anveshsharma2378
    @anveshsharma2378 6 років тому +2

    Nice.

  • @pratik66480
    @pratik66480 6 років тому +2

    Hello sir you should also explain that on different terrains how should we drive,engaged gears and momentum etc. that will be helpful to us novices. Thank you 😊 🙏

  • @rakshitrohit1187
    @rakshitrohit1187 6 років тому +3

    I see fortuner in karnal

  • @gopalk5457
    @gopalk5457 5 років тому

    good channel bro

  • @divrohit9486
    @divrohit9486 6 років тому +1

    Hi Anshuman you have become off road messiah man !!! you sound like walking encyclopedia on off roading. So much to learn from you.The only thing which I would suggest is to change the terrain. Now this sandy off roads seems repetitive.

    • @Anshyuman
      @Anshyuman  6 років тому +3

      Haha, We have videos on almost all kind of terrains, for local weekend offroading we have no choice but to stick to whatever terrain we have.

    • @divrohit9486
      @divrohit9486 6 років тому

      Yup bro I can understand that

  • @masudalishaikh
    @masudalishaikh 6 років тому +2

    Yes the tyres a very cheap I, just put a mail @ford for better tyre, yokohama is good

  • @VanshChugh888
    @VanshChugh888 6 років тому +1

    Fortuner manual vs endeavour

  • @Azaaaddd
    @Azaaaddd 5 років тому

    👍for isuzu

  • @hariharansubramanian
    @hariharansubramanian 6 років тому +1

    08:36 😂😂😂😂😂 Ouch! But even though it went through
    11:20 also.

  • @jayasankersyam7022
    @jayasankersyam7022 4 роки тому

    I truly appreciate the honest review of yours 👏❤️.All those fancy pancy big-B reviews are paid and sponsored thus is shit

  • @keetu147
    @keetu147 6 років тому +4

    This might be different if endeavour had a manual transmission..

  • @SanketHange
    @SanketHange 6 років тому +3

    Well I could clearly make from the Video that you people were more biased towards Fortuner and finding reasons to better off the fortuner where as in real Life scenarios Endeavour is a way better off roader than Fortuner ....
    Ohh and I aint blabbering Crap ...
    I have a Fortuner standing in the Garage and a 3.2 Endeavour in my Friends ... SO YEAH ... !!!
    Ohh and also the driver being a newbie I dont think he really used the Terrain Management System of Endeavour !! THAT CONTROLS THE TRACTION BTW!!
    MISLEADING

    • @Anshyuman
      @Anshyuman  6 років тому +3

      I can help your perception! Everyone derives a different conclusion even if they are watching the same video. Let me give you some food for thought. We don't care if Fortuner performs better or Endeavour, we have all these cars with us and we do offroading for fun not for comparison or for the sake of glorifying something. We spend hundreds of hours every year in the field offroading, in a variety of terrains, all this on our own money. We have an opinion because we have spent time offroading, not because my Uncle owns xxx car or my neighbour owns yyyy or I read something on CarFeku.com
      TYPING IN CAPITAL DOES NOT ADD ANY WEIGHT TO THE POINT. Sorry if I sounded rude, your post ain't any polite either.

  • @rohitmeena4071
    @rohitmeena4071 6 років тому

    Nice

  • @ChinmayKashid
    @ChinmayKashid 6 років тому

    Someone said that it is off-roading ka diploma.. It's not a diploma dude, It's a fucking PhD...
    As far as both cars concerned, I would definately prefer Mechanical superiority over fancy electronics.
    Toyota does get their basics Mechanics right and sturdy. In the long run, that's definately something I want in my car. Plus the Looks are dashing, particularly the front of fortuner..