Quran Talk - Death of Jesus

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  • @surf300
    @surf300 5 років тому +8

    I feel so blessed by God to worship him alone. When i was searching for God I looked into many religions, I used to go to church. Almost become Christian. But many verse made me think again.
    Like John 5:30.
    I can do nothing on my own. As I hear, I judge, and my judgment is just, because I seek not my own will but the will of him who sent me. 31If I alone bear witness about myself, my testimony is not true. 32There is another who bears witness about me, and I know that the testimony that he bears about me is true.
    Same issue i found in Islam and others.
    God guided me to submission to him alone.
    It doesn't matter which religion you follow, all teach worship to God alone.
    People change things.
    Quran
    Unity of All Submitters [2:62] Surely, those who believe, those who are Jewish, the Christians, and the converts; anyone who (1) believes in GOD , and (2) believes in the Last Day, and (3) leads a righteous life, will receive their recompense from their Lord. They have nothing to fear, nor will they grieve

    • @OmarOsman98
      @OmarOsman98 3 роки тому

      The only true path that is accepted from Allah Almighty is Islam( Submission). Jews,Christians and other monotheists are within reach of Paradise. It does not mean that their faiths are accepted by God though.

    • @JESUSANDMEEVANGELISTICNETWORK
      @JESUSANDMEEVANGELISTICNETWORK 5 місяців тому

      Let's reason together.
      The Qur’an teaches that Allah is our Judge:
      Surah 6:57, Surah 7:87, Surah 6:114.
      In fact some of the 99 names of Allah are directly connected to this role of Allah: “Al-‘Adl” which means “The Just,” “Al-Hakam” which means “The Judge,” “Al-Fattah” which means “The Just Ruler,” and “Ad-Dayyan” which means “The Requiter.” Based on all of these assertions it is clear that Allah is the only judge and ruler of mankind, according to the Qur’an. As I have mentioned in my last point only an omniscient being is capable to serve true justice to all mankind, which is an attribute that the Qur’an says belongs to Allah.
      Now, it should shock the Muslim to learn that Jesus also shares this role as a Just Ruler and Judge in both the Qur’an and the Hadith:
      Surah 4:159
      And there is none from the People of the Scripture but that he will surely believe in Jesus before his death. And on the Day of Resurrection he will be against them a witness.
      “By Him in Whose Hands my soul is, surely (Jesus,) the Son of Mary will soon descend amongst you and will judge mankind justly (as a Just Ruler)…” - Excerpt of Sahih Bukhari, Vol. 4, Book 55, No. 657; Fateh-ul Bari, Vol. 7, P. 302
      The most startling thing to take from the verified Hadith above is that it describes Jesus as a Just Ruler which is actually one of the 99 names of Allah, “Al-Fattah.” No doubt an informed Muslim would say, “Jesus will be Judge because Allah will permit Him to.” If such is the case then shouldn’t the judge of all mankind also bear the attribute of omniscience? Oops! Jesus also has that attribute, if you had read my last point on omniscience. You must also note that He claims in the Qur’an that He is all-knowing without the permission of Allah so the ultimate conclusion is that He is also Judge without permission. Keep note in the above Hadith that Muhammad even said that his soul was in the hands of Jesus Christ! Shouldn’t our souls be in the hands of God? Surah 39:42 says that only Allah has our souls, but Muhammad says that Jesus also does too?
      What makes this point even more curious is that both Allah and Jesus are described as returning on the clouds on the Last Day:
      Surah 2:210
      Do they await but that Allah should come to them in covers of clouds and the angels [as well] and the matter is [then] decided? And to Allah [all] matters are returned.
      Acts 1:9-11
      And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
      And while they looked steadfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;
      Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
      Mark 14:62
      And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man (Messiah) sitting on the right hand of power (God), and coming in the clouds of heaven.
      Daniel 7:13, 14
      I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.
      And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.
      Jude 1:14, 15
      And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,
      To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.
      Jesus is LORD. He is the Judge and Just Ruler. Glory to God.

  • @brandynelson4650
    @brandynelson4650 4 місяці тому

    God bless you brother!

  • @zahara6355
    @zahara6355 5 років тому +5

    I rejoiced when I found out the truth about what happened to Jesus, that God answered Jesus's prayers for protection/help (Luke 22:44; Mark portrays Jesus as in deep agony in the face of death, telling his disciples that his soul was sorrowful unto death, falling on his face in prayer and beseeching God 3x to take away the cup of his suffering). Any Christian who truly loved Jesus would rejoice too. God sent His final revelation the Quran to tell Christians especially, the truth about what really happened, because 😈had twisted the truth to stop us from knowing the true love of God. That our Father in heaven is truly loving, He loves His children enough to be able to forgive us, no one innocent needs to die first! After I became a parent myself, it bothered me that since God can do anything, why must God kill his only son in order to forgive mankind that He created.

    • @zahara6355
      @zahara6355 5 років тому

      Decided to upload my testimony pls view and share 😊

    • @mr.knightthedetective7435
      @mr.knightthedetective7435 4 роки тому +1

      Hm, a Muslim calling God a Father? Well that's new. I must inform you that God is not our Father, a Father would never abandoned his children especially to a cruel world we live in. God is our Creator and our Master. 'Father' was a Hebrew way of referring to God back in the day because it was common at the time and people had different mindset to revere God as 'Father.'

    • @zahara6355
      @zahara6355 4 роки тому +2

      @@mr.knightthedetective7435 figure of speech, brother. The Bible is full of metaphors but the church twisted the teachings. To Allah we all belong, to Allah we shall all return.
      Prophet Muhammad taught us how to pray al-Fatiha, do you know it's similar to how Jesus taught us the Lord's Prayer "Our Father In Heaven"

  • @rilum97
    @rilum97 5 років тому +3

    Peace be upon you! Salam

    • @JESUSANDMEEVANGELISTICNETWORK
      @JESUSANDMEEVANGELISTICNETWORK 5 місяців тому

      Let's reason together.
      The Qur’an teaches that Allah is our Judge:
      Surah 6:57, Surah 7:87, Surah 6:114.
      In fact some of the 99 names of Allah are directly connected to this role of Allah: “Al-‘Adl” which means “The Just,” “Al-Hakam” which means “The Judge,” “Al-Fattah” which means “The Just Ruler,” and “Ad-Dayyan” which means “The Requiter.” Based on all of these assertions it is clear that Allah is the only judge and ruler of mankind, according to the Qur’an. As I have mentioned in my last point only an omniscient being is capable to serve true justice to all mankind, which is an attribute that the Qur’an says belongs to Allah.
      Now, it should shock the Muslim to learn that Jesus also shares this role as a Just Ruler and Judge in both the Qur’an and the Hadith:
      Surah 4:159
      And there is none from the People of the Scripture but that he will surely believe in Jesus before his death. And on the Day of Resurrection he will be against them a witness.
      “By Him in Whose Hands my soul is, surely (Jesus,) the Son of Mary will soon descend amongst you and will judge mankind justly (as a Just Ruler)…” - Excerpt of Sahih Bukhari, Vol. 4, Book 55, No. 657; Fateh-ul Bari, Vol. 7, P. 302
      The most startling thing to take from the verified Hadith above is that it describes Jesus as a Just Ruler which is actually one of the 99 names of Allah, “Al-Fattah.” No doubt an informed Muslim would say, “Jesus will be Judge because Allah will permit Him to.” If such is the case then shouldn’t the judge of all mankind also bear the attribute of omniscience? Oops! Jesus also has that attribute, if you had read my last point on omniscience. You must also note that He claims in the Qur’an that He is all-knowing without the permission of Allah so the ultimate conclusion is that He is also Judge without permission. Keep note in the above Hadith that Muhammad even said that his soul was in the hands of Jesus Christ! Shouldn’t our souls be in the hands of God? Surah 39:42 says that only Allah has our souls, but Muhammad says that Jesus also does too?
      What makes this point even more curious is that both Allah and Jesus are described as returning on the clouds on the Last Day:
      Surah 2:210
      Do they await but that Allah should come to them in covers of clouds and the angels [as well] and the matter is [then] decided? And to Allah [all] matters are returned.
      Acts 1:9-11
      And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
      And while they looked steadfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;
      Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
      Mark 14:62
      And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man (Messiah) sitting on the right hand of power (God), and coming in the clouds of heaven.
      Daniel 7:13, 14
      I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.
      And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.
      Jude 1:14, 15
      And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,
      To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.
      Jesus is LORD. He is the Judge and Just Ruler. Glory to God.

  • @fihtah8243
    @fihtah8243 3 роки тому

    but we read in the quran those that receive their record on the right, that they will rejoice and they will be told this is the reward for what you did in the previous life. now if people are going to paradise right after death who're these people given their record on the right and why/what are they rejoicing on the day of judgement?

  • @isa-atm
    @isa-atm День тому

    The narrative doesn't seem to fully explain all the ayāt and events.
    While i agree that Jesus died before being crucified, to posit that his dead body was crucified presents some problems:
    1. At what point did Jesus exactly die?
    a. If Jesus died before reaching golgotha, then did the soldiers drag a dead body to the site? Did the people not see that Jesus was dragged along? But what we know from the Gospels is that Jesus was hushed away to Golgotha and Simon the Cyrene was made to carry the cross.
    b. If Jesus died at Golgotha just before being nailed, then is it fair to accuse the Christians of following "zhann" (conjecture) even though it is almost impossible for them to know that Jesus' spirit was miraculously taken away just before being nailed? People would obviously think that he died bcoz of the shock of being nailed on the cross, or due to the flogging that preceded it at the Roman Court.
    2. Before being crucified, victims are stripped and flogged. The Gospels also concur on this. If this was the case, then there is no meaning in 5:110 where God recounts his favour to Jesus as "I restrained the Children of Israel from you when you came to them with clear proofs", if it was only to let him be flogged humiliatingly before his death.
    3. "walākin shubbiha lahum" (but he/it was made to appear so) -- The verse is not "he appeared so", which would be in active voice. Rather it is "shubbiha" which is passive. Jesus/the event was made to appear so by somebody. Who caused this deception? What exactly is this deception?
    4. Finally, how do we explain the empty tomb? If his body was present in the tomb, there wouldn't have been any need for the early community to go crazy about it. Somebody must have stolen it, and from an islamic perspective, it couldn't be his own disciples as they wouldn't fabricate such a monstrous lie. Who else has an incentive in stealing the body?

    • @isa-atm
      @isa-atm День тому

      For me, the most convincing theory is the JEWISH CONSPIRACY theory:
      • the Jews arrested Jesus,
      • during the sanhedrin trial, God miraculously causes the death of Jesus (Jesus died as indicated by 'tawaffā' in 3:55 and 5:117)
      • since these few Jewish Pharisees feared that people might accuse them of murdering Jesus, they buried away Jesus secretly, got hold of some similar looking guy (Judas?) and flogged him and hastened the fastest court proceedings in history, obviously in order to avoid detection.
      • this also explains why Simon the Cyrene was made to carry the cross while Jesus was hushed away to Golgotha.
      • There were only few female witnesses who witnessed from far away, at least according to the synoptics. It also explains why Mary (one of the witnesses) would leave early Sunday morning to check on the tomb, probably to see who it actually was. So people who witnessed the event, seemed to have doubted the identity of the crucified man. Their conjecture is later exacerbated by the empty tomb.
      • After the person died, a Jewish person (from arimatheus) took the body and buried it in a tomb.
      • During sabbath, the pharisees got the body stolen and buried it in an unknown location to avoid detection of the person's identity.
      • they then blamed the Christians as having stolen the body. They also claimed to have killed Jesus, which is to say, that Jesus was not the Messiah as the Messiah whom they expect cannot be killed let alone humiliated through crucifixion.
      • And since christians knew that they didnt steal the body, they assumed that Jesus rose from the dead. Conjecture upon conjecture.
      If I may add,
      • the claimed appearances are probably legends/hallucinations as Christians were expecting to see the missing Jesus.
      • the ascension of Jesus into heaven has a very weak basis in the Gospels themselves: Matthew (no witnesses), John (no witnesses), Mark (fabricated ascension story). Luke has the words "he withdrew and ascended", but NRSVue has a footnote saying the the word "ascended" does not appear in some ancient manuscripts.
      • The Messiah being raised to heaven and descending from it is a fabricated eschatology, which has no basis in the Old Testament Prophesies. It neither has any basis in the Quran, which clearly mentions Jesus to have died, possibly miraculously, just like his miraculous birth.

    • @isa-atm
      @isa-atm День тому

      For me, the most convincing theory is the JEWISH CONSPIRACY theory:
      • the Jews arrested Jesus,
      • during the sanhedrin trial, God miraculously causes the death of Jesus (Jesus died as indicated by 'tawaffā' in 3:55 and 5:117)
      • since these few Jewish Pharisees feared that people might accuse them of murdering Jesus, they buried away Jesus secretly, got hold of some similar looking guy (Judas?) and flogged him and hastened the fastest court proceedings in history, obviously in order to avoid detection.
      • this also explains why Simon the Cyrene was made to carry the cross while Jesus was hushed away to Golgotha.
      • There were only few female witnesses who witnessed from far away, at least according to the synoptics. It also explains why Mary (one of the witnesses) would leave early Sunday morning to check on the tomb, probably to see who it actually was. So people who witnessed the event, seemed to have doubted the identity of the crucified man. Their conjecture is later exacerbated by the empty tomb.
      • After the person died, a Jewish person (from arimatheus) took the body and buried it in a tomb.
      • During sabbath, the pharisees got the body stolen and buried it in an unknown location to avoid detection of the person's identity.
      • they then blamed the Christians as having stolen the body. They also claimed to have killed Jesus, which is to say, that Jesus was not the Messiah as the Messiah whom they expect cannot be killed let alone humiliated through crucifixion.
      • And since christians knew that they didnt steal the body, they assumed that Jesus rose from the dead. Conjecture upon conjecture.
      If I may add,
      • the claimed appearances are probably legends/hallucinations as Christians were expecting to see the missing Jesus.
      • the ascension of Jesus into heaven has a very weak basis in the Gospels themselves: Matthew (no witnesses), John (no witnesses), Mark (fabricated ascension story). Luke has the words "he withdrew and ascended", but NRSVue has a footnote saying the the word "ascended" does not appear in some ancient manuscripts.
      • The Messiah being raised to heaven and descending from it is a fabricated eschatology, which has no basis in the Old Testament Prophesies. It neither has any basis in the Quran, which clearly mentions Jesus to have died, possibly miraculously, just like his miraculous birth.

    • @isa-atm
      @isa-atm 16 годин тому

      For me, the most convincing theory is the JEWISH CONSPIRACY theory:
      • the Jews arrested Jesus,
      • during the sanhedrin trial, God miraculously causes the death of Jesus (Jesus died as indicated by 'tawaffā' in 3:55 and 5:117)
      • since these few Jewish Pharisees feared that people might accuse them of murdering Jesus, they buried away Jesus secretly, got hold of some similar looking guy (Judas?) and flogged him and hastened the fastest court proceedings in history, obviously in order to avoid detection.
      • this also explains why Simon the Cyrene was made to carry the cross while Jesus was hushed away to Golgotha.
      • There were only few female witnesses who witnessed from far away, at least according to the synoptics. It also explains why Mary (one of the witnesses) would leave early Sunday morning to check on the tomb, probably to see who it actually was. So people who witnessed the event, seemed to have doubted the identity of the crucified man. Their conjecture is later exacerbated by the empty tomb.
      • After the person died, a Jewish person (from arimatheus) took the body and buried it in a tomb.
      • During sabbath, the pharisees got the body stolen and buried it in an unknown location to avoid detection of the person's identity.
      • they then blamed the Christians as having stolen the body. They also claimed to have killed Jesus, which is to say, that Jesus was not the Messiah as the Messiah whom they expect cannot be killed let alone humiliated through crucifixion.
      • And since christians knew that they didnt steal the body, they assumed that Jesus rose from the dead. Conjecture upon conjecture.
      If I may add,
      • the claimed appearances are probably legends/hallucinations as Christians were expecting to see the missing Jesus.
      • the ascension of Jesus into heaven has a very weak basis in the Gospels themselves: Matthew (no witnesses), John (no witnesses), Mark (fabricated ascension story). Luke has the words "he withdrew and ascended", but NRSVue has a footnote saying the the word "ascended" does not appear in some ancient manuscripts.
      • The Messiah being raised to heaven and descending from it is a fabricated eschatology, which has no basis in the Old Testament Prophesies. It neither has any basis in the Quran, which clearly mentions Jesus to have died, possibly miraculously, just like his miraculous birth.

  • @abdo19code
    @abdo19code 4 роки тому +1

    Is the belief that Jesus will return found in the Quran?

    • @djamelzitouni950
      @djamelzitouni950 4 роки тому +2

      No. There is a verse that speak of birth, death and resurrection of Jesus. Scholars tried to point that Jesus did not die, will come back in end times, live and die then be resurrected like all of us. The problem is that the same verse is applied to Yahia, cousin of Jesus.

    • @JESUSANDMEEVANGELISTICNETWORK
      @JESUSANDMEEVANGELISTICNETWORK 5 місяців тому

      Let's reason together.
      The Qur’an teaches that Allah is our Judge:
      Surah 6:57, Surah 7:87, Surah 6:114.
      In fact some of the 99 names of Allah are directly connected to this role of Allah: “Al-‘Adl” which means “The Just,” “Al-Hakam” which means “The Judge,” “Al-Fattah” which means “The Just Ruler,” and “Ad-Dayyan” which means “The Requiter.” Based on all of these assertions it is clear that Allah is the only judge and ruler of mankind, according to the Qur’an. As I have mentioned in my last point only an omniscient being is capable to serve true justice to all mankind, which is an attribute that the Qur’an says belongs to Allah.
      Now, it should shock the Muslim to learn that Jesus also shares this role as a Just Ruler and Judge in both the Qur’an and the Hadith:
      Surah 4:159
      And there is none from the People of the Scripture but that he will surely believe in Jesus before his death. And on the Day of Resurrection he will be against them a witness.
      “By Him in Whose Hands my soul is, surely (Jesus,) the Son of Mary will soon descend amongst you and will judge mankind justly (as a Just Ruler)…” - Excerpt of Sahih Bukhari, Vol. 4, Book 55, No. 657; Fateh-ul Bari, Vol. 7, P. 302
      The most startling thing to take from the verified Hadith above is that it describes Jesus as a Just Ruler which is actually one of the 99 names of Allah, “Al-Fattah.” No doubt an informed Muslim would say, “Jesus will be Judge because Allah will permit Him to.” If such is the case then shouldn’t the judge of all mankind also bear the attribute of omniscience? Oops! Jesus also has that attribute, if you had read my last point on omniscience. You must also note that He claims in the Qur’an that He is all-knowing without the permission of Allah so the ultimate conclusion is that He is also Judge without permission. Keep note in the above Hadith that Muhammad even said that his soul was in the hands of Jesus Christ! Shouldn’t our souls be in the hands of God? Surah 39:42 says that only Allah has our souls, but Muhammad says that Jesus also does too?
      What makes this point even more curious is that both Allah and Jesus are described as returning on the clouds on the Last Day:
      Surah 2:210
      Do they await but that Allah should come to them in covers of clouds and the angels [as well] and the matter is [then] decided? And to Allah [all] matters are returned.
      Acts 1:9-11
      And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
      And while they looked steadfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;
      Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
      Mark 14:62
      And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man (Messiah) sitting on the right hand of power (God), and coming in the clouds of heaven.
      Daniel 7:13, 14
      I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.
      And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.
      Jude 1:14, 15
      And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,
      To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.
      Jesus is LORD. He is the Judge and Just Ruler. Glory to God.

    • @isa-atm
      @isa-atm День тому

      ​@@JESUSANDMEEVANGELISTICNETWORK Whatever hadith you sight is actually evidence that these 3rd century hadiths have a later origin.
      The Quran does not talk about Jesus returning or judging.