Dragon's Dogma 2 Lore Primer - How Does This World Work?
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- Опубліковано 12 чер 2024
- Dragon's Dogma 2 Lore Primer
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GAME: Baldur's Gate 3 PC / Ps5 / GeForce Now / Mac Hopefully Xbox
CHAPTERS
00:00 Intro
01:00 The Universe / The Senechal (God)
02:05 The Dragon
03:07 Arisen's Quest
04:58 Pawns
06:37 What Happens When the Dragon is Defeated?
TAGS: dragons dogma 2, dragons dogma 2 gameplay, lore, story, dd1, dd2 lore, wolfheartfps, wolfheart fps, capcom - Ігри
I wish Capcom would just tell us if playing DD1 is at all a spoiler for the over-arching story of DD2. Regardless, I am certain that the new stories within this new world are going to be a huge focus for this game.
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I'm sure the story is different because the geopolotics from DD2 is not in DD1. The myth and cycle seems to be the same because that is the theme of Dragon's Dogma's story , if I'm not mistaken.
It's not. Itsuno said you don't need to play the first game. Itsuno said that there are parallel worlds going on at once, that's where the pawns come from. Each world has an Arisen which is just us the players. So the story is DD2 is from the world in DD2, not from DD1.
s EN - ih - k aa l = Senechal is the only good pronunciation. Thanks
Thank you for that beautiful lore video! I myself never digged deep in the lore even if i played the game a countless time.
@@ItApproaches I explained that already in the video... we already know that this world will offer its own stories through new characters and nations erc. What we don't know is how important the over-arching story of the arisen slaying the dragon will be and how much of that is meant to be a mystery for new players. The entirety of DD1 is you the player not understanding what is going on in this regards.
It was honestly such a nice detail that they let you meet each arisen that chose a different path at the end of their quest, seeing the arisen who decided to take power become a king, seeing the arisen, who decided to just live out their life end up living in a cave giving advice to other arisen, and the one who chose neither and ended up curse on bittetblack isle!
There's so many cool reveals / mechanics in this game that don't show up until end game. I'm so sad for players who didn't get that far and missed out!!!
@@WolfheartFPS it only took me 4 playthroughs to finally see it through
LOL@@shyviolet2161
Wolves hunt in packs Arisen!
Goblins are weak to fire!
One cool thing about dragons dogma lore too is that with every new playthrough the cycle of eternal return is reflected as each new character you make will have to fight the previous character if he/she won against the seneschal.
The game has so many cool mechanics that so many players never even see!
@@WolfheartFPS This so true, i have played since release, but that made me realize that a lot of people wuld not have seen a lot it took me 12 playthorughs to get all the facts and thing correctly because the game has many endings and many meanigs in each, loosing winning and what that means is so deep, each reveal connected to the rest made the game so rich, I most say I was surprised when I realized that the game was "unfinished" in regards to what they wanted to create, and after 12 years I am so excited to go back in the lore be an arisen again and figure out info that I wasnt expecting all over again, having such a feel is difficult to explain as it is actually rare to have the chance to experience that, the fisrt game means a lot to me, I just hope people will ejoy this and even better go back to dd1 and experience at least a little bit. friday cant come any sooner
wolfheart this video was absolutely on point and excellent, it cuts completely to the core story and is very well made, thank you for recapping it
Thanks for the comment!
I don't know if you knew this, but if you do NG+, the arisen you used to defeat the Seneschal takes the place of the prologue Arisen. I thought that was a really cool touch of the first game.
So cool
Wolf Reading Lore ....and All is Calm before the Hype!
Dude, I played like 150 hours of DD and had no idea about any of this. Thanks so much.
Didn't notice before but the dragon for DD2 has what looks like a crown on its head. This would explain why the title card for the game itself has a crown-like symbol above the dragon's head.
Yeah.
This was a nice, succinct refresher.
Appreciate the lore, looking forward to tying that in with what we're going to find out.
Nice addition to a lot of stuff we're being flooded with right now.
Thank you
Thanks Mike
The Seneschal tests us in several ways. We wouldn't be fit to lead if we weren't:
1. Brave
2. Pure of heart
3. Selfless.
And when I thought that no one would convince me to play a game other than Baldur's Gate, you appear. Wolf, you clearly have a gift for persuasion
An interesting note about pawns becoming human via bestowal of spirit- you can see thousands of selves flit from nowhere and coalesce around the former pawn.
Considering your pawn can canonically be in another world and your world at the same time, it stands to reason that they lose this power by way of their newfound human nature!
I love the lore videos! Super interesting. Thank you for another amazing video Wolf! ❤
Your lore videos are my favourite part of your channel! I got to know you years ago because of the BG3 ones, and now I can't wait to enjoy this one of DD2. Thank you for your sharing your knowledge with us :)
Thanks for the long time support George. Glad you found the channel & glad I found your art work!
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It would really be cool for them to explore defeating the dragon as a main quest but also work in your pawn becoming human with yourself choosing to sacrifice yourself for your pawns ability to become human or not throughout the story.
would be so cool if just go to the mission where the witch in the woods told me that the little girl was a pawn so cool to see
Your pawn does become human at the end of the story, though.
Literally was looking to see if you had posted and I just got out of class to see this! Love the lore
Enjoy
i watched the anime, there are some hints of the curse of the pawns that the developers announced
Short! But very solid lore :) Thanks!!
Hey, thanks for your response on Steam! Cant wait to fight side by side with you (your pawn). Cheers.
I look forward to slaying beasts at your side! You have my bow
Spoiler warning for DD1 DLC:
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In BBI the main bad guy is a "fallen" arisen named Ashe. Without getting too longwinded he found himself in a very unique predicament with regards to slaying the dragon. His mother figure/mentor was the previous arisen who failed and became the dragon who antagonizes him as the next arisen. His most important person is his mentors pawn whom he fell in love with after she gained the bestowal of the spirit. In light of this, Daimon unwilling to slay the dragon (his mentor) or give up his beloved... choses to "curse the whole world" and "reject everything." Unfortunately this "wish" can and is granted... albeit in a twisted manor. The dragon slays his beloved and morphs him into the final boss "Daimon" doomed to corrupt the Isle that "exists in a plane outside the common world." I really enjoy this as it provides an alternate path, unfortunately, not one we can choose and also adds to the intrigue and depth of the story,
So interesting, very Wheel of Time
I missed these wolf lore episodes
This was a fantastic lore video. The visuals you picked were gorgeous, captivating, and inspiring.
Appreciate you watching as always!
Thanks for the catch up ❤ i hope the lore is suitably lengthy and interesting in the new game.
Same! Thanks
Great lore video, Wolf! I love hearing lore about games. It makes them come alive!
Skal 🍻
Thank you!!! I love this world and I’ve been waiting for new lore in this game!
Yes! Love the lore videos. Thank you!
Thank you!
You find really interesting and beautiful visuals to put into your videos
I wasn’t going to have time to give the first game a proper run before the second releases so this video is very appreciated. Great work Wolf! Cheers 🍻
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One fun detail is that if you become the Seneschal, then when you do a New Game +, that previous playthrough's Arisen will be the Seneschal you encounter at the end.
So cool that they did this
tnx for the effort!
Thank you for this video, Wolfheart! I had no idea about the Seneschal. 😅
Thanks for watching!
Hopefully they flesh out the lore and tell the story better in DD2 because for the majority of the game when I first played DD1 I was like “wtf is going on” and by the end I didn’t really feel anything. Still don’t know wtf is up with some of the characters like the Dragonforged.
Would also be nice if they gave us a reason to want our heart back. Because it seems like just a boon tbh. Maybe make it to wear the raisin displays fading emotions, lack of feeling, and uncontrollable power. Idk
The Dragonforged is an Arisen who failed to kill the Dragon, but escaped with his life. He's called the Dragonforged because his weapons broke and he was just left with his bare hands to fight the Dragon, hence his scorched forearms, forged by dragonfire.
He's been sitting alone in his cave ever since his failure. Probably at least for hundreds or thousands of years, considering he turns to literal dust when his age catches up with him.
It's an interesting backstory for the lore. I wonder how DD2 will expand upon this. Maybe each nation will have their own arisen vying for the spot as the next new god. looking forward to watching you play through the game.
What happens to the dragon if the raisin excepts it’s deal?
Grigori says he’ll “leave” but I’m pretty sure his boss wouldn’t like that and I’m also pretty sure that makes no sense given that Duke Edmond made the deal and then the dragon is born at the start of the game……
The dragon will leave but only for some years and come back to choose another arisen that could potentially defeat it
The Duke from dd1 recognised Gregori and that's why he was so afraid throughout the game thinking Gregori coming back would mean his doom
If the Arisen accepts the deal, it would mean the Arisen never had the willpower to be Seneschal in the first place. As for the Dragon, I imagine he just.. Goes back to wherever he came from. Maybe he's just in The Rift until the time comes to test a new Arisen.
Since DD2 is what Itsuno's original vision was, I do wonder if we will get a Dragons Dogma 3 down the road...
Omg i finally found this channel again!!
Welcome back!!!
Me before watching: I know nothing about the lore and it doesn't make sense.
Me after watching: I know everything about the lore and it doesn't make sense.
😂😂😂
Replace Dragon's Dogma with Kingdom Hearts and you got me. 😅
Thank you for the video, Wolf! 🐺 This video got me very hyped! 😁 I have never played Dragon's Dogma before 😅
Exciting times!
Was hoping DD3 can be about the worlds outside the eternal cycle as now it is broken, hinted at by the seneschal in the first game's ending. Maybe it will be thematically like bloodborne, making contacts with eldritch forces outside reality and explore beyond the rift, now that there is no seneschal or pathfinder the safeguard the world.
Noice, ty Sir!
DD1 is such a great game! Can recommend!
How cool would it be if you die at the end fight (and dont use a wake stone) then you get turned in to the dragon and have to fly to a spot where you fight solders and choose the next Arisen, effectively starting the game over.
Some Story Relevant Ruins look very similar to Gran Soren
Damit I got too distracted with the mist and the effects on the rift stone had to go back twice and look at my wall to focus and hear 😂
My biggest challenge on the gaming side this week is that Horizon Forbidden West and DD2 are both releasing on the same weekend on PC.
So far it looks pretty good!
Elvn what's up! Hope you are doing well
I’m hanging in! Slowly rejoining society 😂
Lore Hype 🎉!!!!
if their different worlds then how come the castle that comes out of the sea, if you run around in end game in the unmoor area it looks like gran soran or how ever ya spell it from the first one? i seen a side by side video earlier comparing the two and im pretty sure it is
We didn't know this until dd2 came out! It was quite the twist
Considering we literally see what is clearly the well at the fishing town of Cassardis and the beach itself when fighting the dragon in the flashback of this game when you go to the site of the aftermath..... This location of this whole island is clearly Gransys just with a different history and path taken to lead the land to be called Vermund instead and the beastren finding their way to this area as well. They literally keep saying it's a parallel world and parallel worlds are the same but different and these differences are either small or grand and in this case the difference is grand but it is the same world and location as Gransys!
The Netflix game also takes place in Cassardis at the start
And we don't count that since it should have never been made in the first place! .-.
Does this mean Dragon’s Dogma games can take place in a more modern era or post-apocalypse of a futuristic era?
Nice, Thanks :)
Cheers
I guess DD2 confirms that canonically the Arison in DD1 did not decide to “end the cycle”. Since the cycle is still going…
Unless even the Senischel is exclusive to each world so there’s actually multiple of them and when one decides to end the cycle it doesn’t end then all. Ugh.
So many questions still to be answered!
Each universe (world) most likely has it's own Seneschal to govern over it.
Savan has been the Seneschal for thousands of years. If there was 1 Seneschal for the entire multiverse, it's almost impossible that he would be able to hold on for thousands of years, in the face of an infinite amount of Arisen knocking down his doors. The most likely explanation is that a Seneschal rules over one universe.
There's probably an even higher power than the Seneschal, given that they are just mortals that have been granted godly power. Who was the first Seneschal? Who created them? If the cycle is infinite, does it have a beginning? All questions I don't imagine we'll get an answer for, but I'm hoping.
Hold on hold on hold on, more explanation for why the main pawn in DD1 takes your place in your body.......
3:38 this is crazy dawg, looks soo realistic
I actually used a lot of real footage in this video.
@@WolfheartFPS It was a bad joke 🤣good video, never knew this stuff back when I played DD1
@@lildgamedev6885lol! I never know when I'm on the Internet 😂
Thanks for the Lore vid Wolf, seems to me DD lore is far more shallow than most RPG, not a major downer though considering its an action rpg.
It's definitely a bit shallow and unexplained. it's cool though and I hope DD2 greatly expands on it.
It's a little confusing as to what exactly incentivizes the Dragon to go around choosing Arisen, he's basically choosing his killer. If I'm the dragon, I'm just chillin' in a cave somewhere, if I don't choose anybody, I guess I'm good, according to the lore.
The Dragon isn't a free being. It's created by the Seneschal to do it's duty. The incentive is "You get to not be erased from existence if you do as I say".
The dragon can't just stop lol
Yaaaaaaaay
Sounds exactly like Sasuke and Itachi plot story
Am more interested how big the map is if it is small no money for them
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Do you reckon I'd have to play DD1 before going into DD2? I sadly missed the opportunity to play it when it was current and now I feel like that DD1 looks too dated for me to enjoy, even though the story if probably amazing.
Nope don't need to play DD1
Cool so you can pick a pawn and at the end you can take your life and your pawn becomes human.
We're not exactly sure how that will play out in DD2 but possibly
Loved the peaceful background music Wolf.
Love to hear it! Nice songs for sure
Wait, if you end the cycle and there is no seneschal, what happens to the world(s)?
This all comes down to theory crafting lol
If u choose the quiet life, can you start New Game+? Same as if u killed uself?
Nah. you get a game over after the cutscene plays, implying you lived the rest of your life and died as a fisherman. You can then reload to the autosave before the choice.
So we get to learn about some one who rizzed a dragon and won her heart.
Great so if i want the good ending for my self i miss the final boss? Better hope not
A Seneschal is a steward for a lord. The fact that the godly beings is called The Seneschal implies that they are acting as steward of the world on behalf of a creator deity. This “Maker” seems to be absent.
This is from the game "The Seneschal is steward to the world... The world you traveled now rests in your care. Just as the Arisen calls pawns into being and sets them to motion, the Seneschal holds dominion over all living things. There are those who would call such a being Maker, or God. I cannot deny the claim, any more than affirm it. In the end, they are but words. Call it what you will, such is the office I have served, just as those before me and you beyond, unto eternity..."
@@WolfheartFPS Yes well, that basically confirms that there is a Seneschal in every world that acts as a guardian of sorts for primordial beings. The fact that they have an office I believe encourages this idea and who knows what happens, when one such Seneschal decides to retire. Perhaps a new race is born or a Dragon appears.
I can't wait to get more of the bigger picture and find out what has happened to this new world and what mysteries it might hold in relation to the overall arching plot.
@@WolfheartFPS Yes, but the Seneschal didn't create the eternal ring. I think there's enough subtext to infer that someone put the whole thing into place and over time the Seneschal became associated with the idea of the creator of the world. There's been so many Seneschals by now that not even they know the origin of it all.
@@evanhughes9899 It's my headcanon that when a Seneschal quits like we do at the end of the game, the world that they are steward over decays and collapses and all the inhabitants are drawn into the rift where they become pawns for the Arisen of other worlds.
@@SylentmanaI think that's fair! I was just explaining to you why I said The Maker is the Senechal in the video.
Honestly I never played DD1 and literally know nothing about it. I’m not sure if I should watch this video or just go on blind.
Doesn’t DD have the most awesome lore? That’s a rhetorical question, btw 😊
Here is 2 What ifs, What if you and your pawns are Twins? Your pawn becomes yourself being the same as yourself. Would that not be the same person in the end?
And What If, You find the truth about this whole thing and decided to drop your weapon and say "No. No I will not do this anymore, I will not be baited into this ridiculous fight. I want no part in this whatsoever, You can take my life if you must but this is all pointless in the end. Either we stop fighting and work something out or we accept our fate and be doomed forever. But I will NOT part take in these silly games I may be strong but I am no fool. It's not cowardness but a realization that someone or some thing is playing games with us and I don't find it funny. "
Meh time travel or multiple whatever world/universe stuff i always found cheap to excuse easy story writing or reasons why.
I'd probably agree but considering that this lines up perfectly with the pawn system and why it exists, I think it works here.
Please...
Lmao gran soren is there so it's the same world
But what about the ladders? ❤🪜 ❤