WOW thanks for loading this been waiting to hear this for years. Sound great, it sounds more like Spedding than Jones on the lead fills. It actually sounds like Jones learned from Spedding how to get a decent sound after this session. Matlock is a great tight melodic bass player but he is far too busy for the bands sound that became the Ramones type root note bass lines on the NMTB recordings
I'm a big fan of both the Pistols and Spedding and I must say that it REALLY sounds like Spedding on lead - if it's not, Spedding must have REALLY taught Jones some of his tricks.
Always liked Chris Spedding. Been following his career since Motorbiking. Saw him at Knebworth at the Pink Floyd gig in 75. You can tell he's playing on this track because it stands out . He is a solid, rock guitar player and fits in well with this track. I have a few I wish he played on.
Agree with you about the guitar overdubs, Jones had only been playing 18 months by then and nobody playing 18 months would sound like that. I reckon it is Matlock though cos he was miles ahead of the others musically.
Seems like Spedding was one of the few of the "Old Guard" that was willing to give punk bands a listen and appreciate it for the stripped-down, 'less is more' attitude and not write it off in favor or the overblown production that the mainstream was promoting
Glen was extremely melodic bass player, solid and on time too. I'm not sure his style suited to the wall of sound that was Never Mind The Bollocks, but nevertheless a top bass man like you say.
Hmm - I think Steve Jones deserves the benefit of the doubt here. All the lead guitar "licks" on this demo aren't all that long and have clearly been punched in over the top - i.e. the guitarist only has to get them more-or-less right once. I can definitely say that in my early band days when I could barely play for toffee, the engineer on our demo had me do exactly the same thing and made me sound a lot better than I actually was.
Obviously Chris Spedding has been an influence on Steve Jones guitar playing,..for me, the most rock and roll out of all the 70's punk bands,and one of the few who did'nt 'up tempo' after the Ramones played here...brilliant..still my fave band.
That is of course & obviously Chris Spedding playing those little guitar fills Not the actual solo , cool demo indeed ... even more cool that when it came down to to it , Steve Jones' simplified Bass & fantastic Guitar is exactly what was needed & better for it . A killer classic album , obviously ! ... I love & own most of Spedding's albums - very cool that his last 2 albums have Glen then Paul playing with him , a returned favour 35+ years later ! KING MOB // SHARKS Excellent New Music must haves 10/10 !!
this to me is the best version of this song.. the way the electric guitar and the base go together it gives the song a sort of free spirited feel to it.. at least I think it does.. Its to bad they didn't join forces with spedding and played as a group right through the era.. I wonder what would have happened if they stayed together as a group..
Spedding was one of the few 'older' musicians to greet punk with an open mind. He'd been around for years himself and played in different genres,( jazz, r & r , rockabilly.) while his peers dismissed it as junk and beneath them, mostly because it wasn't bloated and overproduced the way 99% of the music in the early '70s was. He recognized the fresh vitality that it promised (and sometimes delivered).
@blastingcaps This is the sound Chris Spedding was going for. He wanted to give them a different sound. So he tried out an R&B style, which came out as he wanted it to. The Pistols nor McLaren didn't like it that much as they wanted a guitar orchestra (As in NMTB). But I love this, and to say the mix is terrible is just being dumb and ignorant.
Despite what Spedding has said, he IS playing all the little riffs on this version that he produced. Jonesy wasn't good enough at this point to play like this. One of my fave versions of No Feelings - a little on the fast side but that's OK.
Glen Matlock made it sound MUCH better (and original). It's not that he's too busy, it's that the bass is too loud on the mix. Matlock should have recorded the Never Mind The Bollocks...
OK, you're probably RIGHT (me wrong about Matlock...and thanks for the listening tips - he's really playing GREAT in the Rich Kids)... but I still think it's Spedding who play the lead guitar runs on this version. :)
Your obviously not a Sex Pistols fan then. Glen Matlock is a excellent bass player. Listen to him in 1976,1977 with the Sex Pistols, then with the Rich Kids. Hes a solid bass player and is spoken highly of, hes always been able to hold his own. Listen to the Sex Pistols No Feeling Instrutmental demo, Glen is mixed very high and you can really hear how great he was. You must be a Sid fanboy..
And FYI Sid learned to play bass: he obviously wasn't as good as Matlock but for someone who had NEVER picked up a bass before and ONLY practiced for a 2 weeks period prior to his live debut with the Sex Pistols he did a decent job! Besides that Sid's bass wasn't always unplugged contrary to widespread common belief: he PLAYED on their gigs as you can distinctively hear in various recordings of the Pistols' live performances!
This version is amazing and glen bass is very good but steve jones can play like this now bearing in mind steve plays a lot hear with some superb chris spedding lead guitar and good it's amazing
This shows you how musically Conservative the Pistols were really. Pretty basic RocknRoll nigh on pub rock. The only real difference was Rottens vocal style, which wasn't so over the top here as it would later become. Of course I love it.
totally agree with prior listeners - lead guitar absolutely is spedding - so the 'rumor' has some truth! amazing but great guitar licks don't make a great song - the album version is the better
hold on what are u talkin about?:L chris spedding has said publicly that he has never recorded any material for the sex pistols, why do people like u keep sayin that?haha steve jones is actually a really gud guitar player..... he wrote black leather, enuf said
This is almost certainly a lame and boring comment, but I really do feel, that, in a very real sense, they should have kept Glen Matlock in the band. Not only was he a much funkier bass player than Sid, he was laddish enough, and Johnny Rotten had enough image to go round anyway, so I think a bit of light and shade within the band would have been better for them.
That's not Jonesy on lead guitar that's Chris Spedding - Jonesy wasn't capable of playing like that at that point of his career. Nevertheless, great song.
What should Spedding say? The Pistols got their first recording contract because of this demo... I think they had an agreement over this - not to tell the real truth.
@gerontodon John hated him from the start and doesn't, in my opinion, give hime enough credit for the songwriting. Steve didn't like him either. Fact is, Glen was a great songwriter and they produced musically very little stuff worthwhile after Glen left. Then again, some of Rotten's lyrics wasn't accepted by Glen so that couldn't continue either.
more like "punk and roll" than straight "punk" (and all the better for it). yes, the track IS better than the version on "bollocks." by the time "bollocks" was mastered, mclaren had decided to take the FUN out of the pistols (along with the matlock). that was the POINT, i guess. (pointing the way toward angry, political british punk.) but something was lost in the process....
Hahaha lol. Brilliant butlins, we've all been there. I went in 1987 and the room looked like a murder scene. Blood everywhere. We got upgraded pretty quick. Must have been a big fight or serious injury 🤔
Anyone who thinks that Steve is playing guitar on this is an idiot. If you play guitar you unerstand th palming technique Chirs does. This is Spedo playing. Period. Bass, guitar, lead... all of it. End of story. chicken john
@VacantPistol I think that's a load of bull. McLaren wanted to make money, he didn't care of anything else. And, of course, he didn't care where it came from. Today he would have been an online seller of sex toys. FFS get a grip and wake up! He didn't give a feck about music!
sounds like a bad backing track ,thank fuck this never ended up the shops back then .crap mate.its thin and has no bollocks!!! realy bad .chris who!!!! spelling mistake o sorry spedding mistake!!! bin it!!
He isn't holding his hand enough, picking his moments. He seems to be ticking too many boxes, being too smart. His playing on I Wanna Be Me is amazing. @@Stigmatix666
Glenn Matlock was a class bass player, his work really lifts this song.
WOW thanks for loading this been waiting to hear this for years. Sound great, it sounds more like Spedding than Jones on the lead fills. It actually sounds like Jones learned from Spedding how to get a decent sound after this session. Matlock is a great tight melodic bass player but he is far too busy for the bands sound that became the Ramones type root note bass lines on the NMTB recordings
This is really a great version! Love John's bored voice here!!
I'm a big fan of both the Pistols and Spedding and I must say that it REALLY sounds like Spedding on lead - if it's not, Spedding must have REALLY taught Jones some of his tricks.
IS THIS THE BEST FRICKIN' BAND OR WHATTT??
Always liked Chris Spedding. Been following his career since Motorbiking. Saw him at Knebworth at the Pink Floyd gig in 75. You can tell he's playing on this track because it stands out . He is a solid, rock guitar player and fits in well with this track. I have a few I wish he played on.
Yeah, fits in so well, everyone knows he dropped the licks in!!
Agree with you about the guitar overdubs, Jones had only been playing 18 months by then and nobody playing 18 months would sound like that. I reckon it is Matlock though cos he was miles ahead of the others musically.
What??? You are joking...simple licks like that you can play within a month.
Seems like Spedding was one of the few of the "Old Guard" that was willing to give punk bands a listen and appreciate it for the stripped-down, 'less is more' attitude and not write it off in favor or the overblown production that the mainstream was promoting
Or perhaps, the truth, his gf fancied John, and he was talked into it because they might be 'the next big thing'.
Glen was extremely melodic bass player, solid and on time too. I'm not sure his style suited to the wall of sound that was Never Mind The Bollocks, but nevertheless a top bass man like you say.
Too melodic. Won't shut up.
Secret to success; "Keep it simple".
thats true most of the time, but since steve jones keeps it catchy and simple, the melodic bass playing lifts up the song, without overloding it
every demo with Glen Matlock playing is far better than the album
very tight and glen bass rocks.
Glen's bass 'rocks' so much, he could have joined ELP!
Perfect version,love that guitar riff!
Been looking for this one forever. Thanks!
Hmm - I think Steve Jones deserves the benefit of the doubt here. All the lead guitar "licks" on this demo aren't all that long and have clearly been punched in over the top - i.e. the guitarist only has to get them more-or-less right once. I can definitely say that in my early band days when I could barely play for toffee, the engineer on our demo had me do exactly the same thing and made me sound a lot better than I actually was.
Obviously Chris Spedding has been an influence on Steve Jones guitar playing,..for me, the most rock and roll out of all the 70's punk bands,and one of the few who did'nt 'up tempo' after the Ramones played here...brilliant..still my fave band.
Much thanks for uploading!
That is of course & obviously Chris Spedding playing those little guitar fills Not the actual solo , cool demo indeed ... even more cool that when it came down to to it , Steve Jones' simplified Bass & fantastic Guitar is exactly what was needed & better for it . A killer classic album , obviously ! ... I love & own most of Spedding's albums - very cool that his last 2 albums have Glen then Paul playing with him , a returned favour 35+ years later ! KING MOB // SHARKS Excellent New Music must haves 10/10 !!
Glen,Chris,Robert Gordon and Slim Jim Phantom are playing (together) tonight (7/13/o9) at BB king's in NY
Very nice bass playing by Matlock.
this to me is the best version of this song..
the way the electric guitar and the base go together it gives the song a sort of free spirited feel to it..
at least I think it does..
Its to bad they didn't join forces with spedding and played as a group right through the era..
I wonder what would have happened if they stayed together as a group..
Spedding was one of the few 'older' musicians to greet punk with an open mind. He'd been around for years himself and played in different genres,( jazz, r & r , rockabilly.) while his peers dismissed it as junk and beneath them, mostly because it wasn't bloated and overproduced the way 99% of the music in the early '70s was. He recognized the fresh vitality that it promised (and sometimes delivered).
Better than the album version!
@blastingcaps This is the sound Chris Spedding was going for. He wanted to give them a different sound. So he tried out an R&B style, which came out as he wanted it to. The Pistols nor McLaren didn't like it that much as they wanted a guitar orchestra (As in NMTB). But I love this, and to say the mix is terrible is just being dumb and ignorant.
Despite what Spedding has said, he IS playing all the little riffs on this version that he produced. Jonesy wasn't good enough at this point to play like this. One of my fave versions of No Feelings - a little on the fast side but that's OK.
The best version??? Yes this is it !! ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
the photo. From Sex Pistols File, Omnibus Press 1980s : "Chris Spedding trying to outpunk the band".
Chris Spedding plays the lead guitar on this demo - Jonesy wasn't capable of it at that point in his career.
Glen Matlock made it sound MUCH better (and original). It's not that he's too busy, it's that the bass is too loud on the mix. Matlock should have recorded the Never Mind The Bollocks...
Ahm, I don't think the solo is done by Steve, but rather by Speeding. But I could be wrong. Opinions?
Its been a while
@VacantPistol oooh your so poetic.
OK, you're probably RIGHT (me wrong about Matlock...and thanks for the listening tips - he's really playing GREAT in the Rich Kids)... but I still think it's Spedding who play the lead guitar runs on this version. :)
@VacantPistol well said...has he/she not heard Chelmsford? ;)
Your obviously not a Sex Pistols fan then. Glen Matlock is a excellent bass player. Listen to him in 1976,1977 with the Sex Pistols, then with the Rich Kids. Hes a solid bass player and is spoken highly of, hes always been able to hold his own. Listen to the Sex Pistols No Feeling Instrutmental demo, Glen is mixed very high and you can really hear how great he was. You must be a Sid fanboy..
Exactly!
Matlock left the Pistols in late January/early February of 1977 Sid joining the band immediately afterwards!
And FYI Sid learned to play bass: he obviously wasn't as good as Matlock but for someone who had NEVER picked up a bass before and ONLY practiced for a 2 weeks period prior to his live debut with the Sex Pistols he did a decent job!
Besides that Sid's bass wasn't always unplugged contrary to widespread common belief: he PLAYED on their gigs as you can distinctively hear in various recordings of the Pistols' live performances!
This is wot i col punk rock!!!!
This version is amazing and glen bass is very good but steve jones can play like this now bearing in mind steve plays a lot hear with some superb chris spedding lead guitar and good it's amazing
interesting!!!!
This shows you how musically Conservative the Pistols were really. Pretty basic RocknRoll nigh on pub rock. The only real difference was Rottens vocal style, which wasn't so over the top here as it would later become. Of course I love it.
totally agree with prior listeners - lead guitar absolutely is spedding - so the 'rumor' has some truth! amazing
but great guitar licks don't make a great song - the album version is the better
+mac timred
The bad parts of the solo sound to me like someone doing a bad imitation of Spedding, the good parts sound like Jones. Go figure.
very true, though.
Thank f🤬 they found John Lydon
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The mid-70s Beatles.
Thats some goddamn good bass
hold on what are u talkin about?:L chris spedding has said publicly that he has never recorded any material for the sex pistols, why do people like u keep sayin that?haha steve jones is actually a really gud guitar player..... he wrote black leather, enuf said
April 1976 compare DMZ to Sex Pistols
This is almost certainly a lame and boring comment, but I really do feel, that, in a very real sense, they should have kept Glen Matlock in the band. Not only was he a much funkier bass player than Sid, he was laddish enough, and Johnny Rotten had enough image to go round anyway, so I think a bit of light and shade within the band would have been better for them.
this is actually really cool!! god b
less the sex pistols
That's not Jonesy on lead guitar that's Chris Spedding - Jonesy wasn't capable of playing like that at that point of his career. Nevertheless, great song.
Smart
Not the finished article but pretty fxcking good..
Damn this rocks,who muted steves guitar on nmtb???
What should Spedding say? The Pistols got their first recording contract because of this demo... I think they had an agreement over this - not to tell the real truth.
@hardyboyzrko Thankfully our paths never crossed.
this is great!
sounds better than the album version,
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the real kids the taxi boys
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Jones wasn't capable of playing the lead on the demo version of No Feelings. Spedding is a joker. Listen to his riffs. : )
VacantPistol I know you are but what am I? : )
@gerontodon John hated him from the start and doesn't, in my opinion, give hime enough credit for the songwriting. Steve didn't like him either. Fact is, Glen was a great songwriter and they produced musically very little stuff worthwhile after Glen left. Then again, some of Rotten's lyrics wasn't accepted by Glen so that couldn't continue either.
@GAREMPOTS I still like it. Thats all i can say...but to not tell the truth as i see it is not my way.
Matlock or Spedidng on bass?
Matlock.
Problems was good too
@DaisyChainMassacre wanna tissue with that tear?
more like "punk and roll" than straight "punk" (and all the better for it). yes, the track IS better than the version on "bollocks." by the time "bollocks" was mastered, mclaren had decided to take the FUN out of the pistols (along with the matlock). that was the POINT, i guess. (pointing the way toward angry, political british punk.) but something was lost in the process....
Thank god matlock had gone by the time they recorded the Bollocks album. The bass line sounds like something from Butlins Holidaycamp
Hahaha lol. Brilliant butlins, we've all been there. I went in 1987 and the room looked like a murder scene. Blood everywhere. We got upgraded pretty quick. Must have been a big fight or serious injury 🤔
Anyone who thinks that Steve is playing guitar on this is an idiot. If you play guitar you unerstand th palming technique Chirs does. This is Spedo playing. Period. Bass, guitar, lead... all of it. End of story.
chicken john
Bass? No way. Matlock was very competent as bassist at that time.
@hardyboyzrko Malcolm's dead.
I think the problem is Lydon is actually trying to sing is going hoarse...drums bass are rather good and yeah that aint Jonesy
I think it's Herbie Flowers on bass... I've NOT EVER heard Glen Matlock playing bass this great ever since!
Steve Jones is much better
@CelticReject You've just wrote a load of bull. Get a grip yourself. Maybe try reading Chris Speddings' website yourself, or are you a bit thick?
@VacantPistol I think that's a load of bull. McLaren wanted to make money, he didn't care of anything else. And, of course, he didn't care where it came from. Today he would have been an online seller of sex toys. FFS get a grip and wake up! He didn't give a feck about music!
sounds like a bad backing track ,thank fuck this never ended up the shops back then .crap mate.its thin and has no bollocks!!! realy bad .chris who!!!! spelling mistake o sorry spedding mistake!!! bin it!!
The bass is annoyingly busy.
miisu - because Glen is a proper Bass player, not a frustrated Guitarist playing Bass!
Sometimes less is more
He isn't holding his hand enough, picking his moments. He seems to be ticking too many boxes, being too smart. His playing on I Wanna Be Me is amazing. @@Stigmatix666
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