The jl audio sub outperformed using less power. The Memphis sub used nearly double the amount of power and came up short. So in terms of what I seen was a subwoofer that was loud using a amplifier that's efficient enough to not tax an electrical system. You get what you pay for
This could easily be due to box rise and the jl amp having a regulated power supply. Box design and install will matter vastly more that the base equipment. The enclosure makes the largest difference. That's just hands down fact. Both subs are going to want entirely different enclosures to before optimally.
The JL is $300 more..and a difference of $800 of what he showed us here, so, 2db differences at most is definitely getting what you pay for...lol. I wouldn't spend that much extra for a half db gain ✌️ dude you're smokin' crack
@@MemphisMojo15s if your after DB you are buying the wrong woofers all together these are for actual music to sound good and have an authoritative bottom end not doing big numbers! What you are wanting is DC audio, DD, Incriminator, sundown somebody who builds high power subs and amps! It would be like buying a big burp sub to put into a sound quality system ain’t gonna work to good!
@@tammyforbes2101 I did 145.6db at 40hz with the Memphis VIV while still sounding amazing, the problem with this video is that its done horribly wrong and without the proper information. the meter isn't a real actual meter , no clamp meter to see what power each is actually doing , totally different boxes ... this looks like it was made by someone not actually in car audio and was paid promotion.
Not to mention the 1000/2 class ab. Less efficient, but the dynamic mosfet power supply was new, for the time. A regulated power supply. This when Rockford and other companies were taking advantage of igbt power amplification that while somewhat efficient, held high distortion. People were blinded by the simplified power boost, but had little knowledge of the harmonic distortion. Then, jl came.
That jl has so much more to give. Box isnt near big enough. Just had jl help me design a box for a long time customer at the shop I work for and its 2 13w7 4th order bandpass and it was almost 12 cube after everything was done. It's a monster on 4.5k watts.
40-20 Hz is where I have heard the most difference, and where the W7 shines. It sounds good at higher Hz, and smashes the lows. Kinda disappointed this test didn't cover 40-10 Hz.
1. You get what you pay for. 2. If you want it loud, clean, efficient, and in a relatively compact enclosure, then the W7 is hard to beat. I am stating this for the average Joe that only wants one or two subs in a daily driven vehicle. I am not talking about people who wall off a vehicle for the sole purpose of floating a farmer's coveralls. Someone who has a wide variety of musical preferences. JL has done their homework on the W7. I admit, I have heard the Memphis in person at a local shop and it sounds great in the showroom at low to moderate volume, but I can not speak for it when it comes to in-vehicle and at the limit listening. Bottom line: there is no perfect subwoofer OR enclosure. It all depends on your budget, listening preference, and how much room you can sacrifice for the installation. Remember, bass is a lot like drag racing. The more you want, (the faster you want to go) the more exponential the amount of money you will be paying. I have been doing car audio for 30 years and I speak from experience. I replaced two CHEAP Pioneer 15" subwoofers that were sealed in a 4 cu. ft. enclosure, with a single 12w7 in a 1.75 cu. ft. enclosure. Both setups were getting 1000 watts RMS, yet the 12w7 had half the enclosure size. I had both setups metered (back in 2002) and the 12w7 was 2.5 dB louder. The 15's sounded really awesome for what they were, but the JL W7 was better. The difference between them was on either end of the dB scale, at VERY low levels and at very extreme levels. None of my W7s ever suffered a failure. Honestly, I think most subwoofers have the potential to satisfy, as long as you don't cheap out too hard. I would always rather have some cheap subs in the right box than some high dollar subs in the wrong box. Great video though! I do hope to see some Term Lab results, and I think what Memphis has come up with, as far as cone area VS. excursion was quite clever! Sneaky sonsabitches, LoL!
Thanks for your comment the purpose of this video was show 1. JL Audio makes a great woofer in their W7 and is good for the guy that wants a lot of bass in his trunk not necessarily for the guy that competes or walls is car. 2. That Memphis makes a set up that is much less and sounds very similar to the JL set up. True the test equipment used was inexpensive but with all other things being equal it served its purpose. And yeah as soon as I get the Term pro stuff in and learn how to use it we will test again!! Thanks again for your comment and I hope others read it to see your perspective.
I know I have already commented, but I wanted to point out a few other things. 1. Both drivers should have been given the same amplifier to power them. 2. The Memphis has a slight advantage, since it came in a factory prebuilt enclosure. (factory enclosures most often have had some research & development) The JL13 seemed to have been loaded in a basic "JL Spec" enclosure. 3. The subs' in-car frequency response should have been measured with a calibrated mic while playing PINK NOISE. - this would somewhat reveal the test vehicle's cabin gain, and these drivers will perform much differently in different sized vehicles. I know this video was a couple years ago, but JL has raised the price of the 13W7 to currently $1,799.99. (which is ridiculous) The Memphis is showing a price of $999.95. Even when the JL was $1,449.99 - it wasn't at the same price point as the Memphis, but I get it. It's cool to see a comparison between two flagship drivers. I love my ported 13w7, but I am getting ready to design a custom sealed enclosure and see what it will do!
It's crazy. I got my w7s several years ago and the price has basically doubled since I got it. But the amplifiers are about the same price I paid back then. Why did the sub price jump so much?
@@Jay-pr2kt Two things: inflation and GREED. With just inflation adjusted from 2002, the 13W7 should be sitting at $1,549.99. Unfortunately, people are starting to realize what the W7's are all about and people are willing to pay the extortion fee.
I maybe missed it, but the JL amp you tuned is the RD series, not the HD series. I do not think the RD series plays it's full potential at 1.5ohms. I know the RD is rated for 2ohms minimum so the test may be flawed from the start. Great video anyways. Thank you for posting it.
Memphis makes great woofers but they aren't on par with the W7. The JL has a flatter response, where the Memphis drops sharply as you get into higher frequencies. A 10db increase is what the human ear perceives as twice as loud and the JL is almost at 7, so that's going to be pretty noticeable. At 80hz I'd imagine it would tip even further in JL's favor. Efficiency is another thing to consider, a 13W7 is using half the power to produce the same volume, that's a big difference and plays a big part in system design if you now have to have hardware capable of delivering that extra 1k watts... JL really has bass down, there's not many other woofer's out there that can compete with the sound quality of a JL woofer. A W3 or W6 are even difficult to compete with. They may not be the loudest and they are pretty pricy, but if you want clean, deep, and accurate bass they are the way to go.
That’s a good combo lots of cone area with an amp that matches in power. Very efficient set up. I had (6)12” W1 off (2) 500/1 back in the day and it was super loud.
Nice! I run 4 12" WOs in a huge 4th order with a kicker 1200.1t(1ohm). My sundown and DS-18 buddies who are running multiple amps, 15" subs , extra batteries, all out on upgrades and my van is killing them. Bass is deep and clean. Sundown Dealer is telling me GTFO as his clientele is giving him the old "I want a refund"!
And the mojo pulls more power. having it In the back of your Nissan means nothing just cause you set the gain doesn't stop the 12v system from clipping your woofer
@@pstain1 That's what everyone calls in the car audio space even if you run aftermarket batteries/alternators. So clearly YOU have no idea. In fact, you're exactly the guy we don't like in the community so please go find another hobby.
@@krowwithakay I mean look at this video and tell me with a straight face that this video Belongs in the car audio community at all . its a slap in the face to all the legitimate testers in the community
My 13w7s from a few years ago sounded really good. But they definitely needed to be broken in. They didn’t sound good at high volume low frequency (below 30hz)
Thats wassup i respect this face off. You can save a few bucks with memphis & not really notice the difference in sound. However the memphis system is drawing way more power, JL system is far more efficient, so long term much better performance & efficiency. : Salute
I cant find many comparisons between JL & Memphis. I am trying to decide between a Memphis VIV900.5 and an HD900/5. Can i ask your thoughts or can u do a comparison plz. TIA
My viv 1422 underpowered does 140.6 in a custom enclosure. For all wondering about sq it is very good! Plays everything perfectly and very smoothly been bumping mine for a year trying to see if it would let go as well. Not one issue stays very cool. Mind you im using a custom 2000.1 that does 2500+ at 1ohm but after rise she is under powered
And the JL Audio W713 is under powered by about 200 watts in this video I would assume, but the Memphis Audio VIV1422 has a amp that is putting out at the top of the RMS of the subwoofer at 2,200 watts rms. The JL could go a little more on power but the Memphis Audio 14 is more so at its RMS limit.
I've got the same sub/box combo, but I am running the memphis mojo pro 3000.1 amp. I've heard the jl w7, and with the combo I have, it would match up with that.
Great Video. I would like to hear you opinion on the sound quality of the 2. I know that is so subjective but can be somewhat data driven. The one item in all of this is the power. The JL Audio was louder with almost half the power. Yes it is more expensive but you will have to double the amount of power the car produces to drive the Memphis system which will increase the price. I would like to see 30 and 70 added to this test in the future. The other item I noticed is how consistent the SPL numbers were across the board on the JL compared to the Memphis which could show better sound quality as you don't have to tune the system as much. Maybe showing an average of the SPL readings between to the 2 to see what the average shows. Again very cool test. For all those who didn't see the JL amp it is in the same spot as the Memphis. The camera shot doesn't show it that well but you can make out the amp and notice it is the HD1200.
I've had a jl13 w7 and that thing is amazing , it gives a deep and clean bass. I had it on a bmwx5 and I promise you on some songs I couldn't even turn it up all the way cause it rattled too much hahah
So I have no idea what you are doing there, but I hit 151db with my Memphis 14 with the 2200 running it. My components alone will hit higher than what you did.
Long ago I had the Mojo 15 with a 1000 watt class D in Green Bay I had second place I had a stingray battery that wasn't fully charged so I had to go again after burping over on the DB drag race car shut off. I will build again I'll probably go with Memphis again
He was measuring with A-weighting, absolutely the wrong setting. You are loosing like 30 dB, it filters everything below 1000 Hz! Come on. Learn some basic sound science first.
It’s bit right there when it takes 2x the power to duplicate.. you’ll be spending 3x more in money to power that with electrical upgrades as you start multiplying everything out
would love to see how the earthquake holee 15 inch does up against other leading brands in spl and not least the super low hz bass..i will always remember when the earthquake magma with slaps came out and it broke just about all competition it met until cadence beast master dragrace 15 inch came out in 2002 or somewhere around those years.
those are extremely hard to find nowdays . judging from how this video was done id say they don't have a clue what ur talking about, heck they didn't use a actual spl meter or proper methods for testing even . 20 + years ago when those subs were made they were at the top of the charts , the w7 came out somewhere around the same time and is still here today
I have a first generation 12 Magma ( dual 3 ohm ) bought in 1999, it's 2024. Earthquake still makes the Holee s, the sub zero, and the Magma. And Still made in the USA
ok we know which one is louder,but which sounds better.i bet the jl they are known for sq.id like to have seen a bit different a test.20 30 and 40hz vs 40 50 and 60 dome here.
Very cool. I have the 12w7 in a smaller box, with a Rockford Fosgate R2-1200X1 amp.. trying to get a jlaudio amp. I need to tweak it I think. Maybe the Rockford can still make it sound good.
The problem is that JL woofer is a 3 ohm speaker so it’s hard to find an amp that will work other than the JL Audio. LET ME EXPLAIN: The JL amps output the same power between 1.5-4 ohm. Whereas your Rockford amp is rated at: 400 watts RMS x 1 at 4 ohms 800 watts RMS x 1 at 2 ohms 1,200 watts RMS x 1 at 1 ohm So at 3 ohm(the impedance of your W7) that amp only outputs about 600 watts. Now the W7 is rated between 400-1000 but you want to be at 1000 or close to it. JL was sneaky when they designed this woofer because no amp is optimized to be loaded to 3 ohms. Normally 1 ohm or 2 ohm. And since the JL Amps put out the same power between 1.5-4 ohms their older Slash Series or HD are the best amps to run that woofer. The HD750/1 ($999)will work but the HD1200/1. $1499! But if you don’t want spend so much here’s an alternative: 1600.1 EVOX2 - 2Ω Here are the ratings Power @ 4Ω: 1 X 1056 WRMS Power @ 2Ω: 1 X 1600 WRMS So at 3 ohms that should put you right in the middle 1300 or so. Which is plenty of power! Now those amps are a little over rated in my option so you should be just fine. And only $550
Considering the numbers, and the fact that the difference is either inaudible or almost inaudible, I could do a lot with the extra money I’m saving on the Memphis
I don't understand why they weren't tested at 20 and 30 hz. I'm willing to bet that the Memphis probably would've performed the low range better just based on cone area and power handling.
You did us wrong, first of all, the amp you put on the 13W7 was the RD500/1, rated 500rms at 2 ohms, at 1.5 ohms maybe puts out 600rms, this is about 25% the power you are putting on the Memphis. If you had the 1200HD and even better if you had the 1200/1 V3, the 13W7 would have obliterated the Memphis, and the difference would be very noticeable. THUMBS DOWN 👎🏼 ON THIS VIDEO!
Yea the whole testing process was horrible, he dont even know which sub is seeing more or less power but tells people that... don't matter what he put it on cuz the meter he is using for spl isn't a actual meter , and there was no wattage testing done .
@@alphaone3218 he gained the HD amp. You’ll notice as he turned the gain on the HD amp, the clipping light went on on the SMD. Plus that RD amp isn’t capable of those numbers.
They are both get subs and amp but and great video by the way I just think the comparison it’s exactly evenly matched sub to amp and box is basically what I’m getting to
I was thinking the same thing and from the specs and design it is but he didn’t show any close ups of the sub talk about the design or coil you would of think he would of brought that up they must have done something wrong with it smelling like it was going to blow not even clipping on 2200 watts when it should be able to handle another 1300 watts and the whole design allows for much better cooling of the voice coil and more emphasis on motor force and control...
You also need to calculated the in the fact that the Memphis woofer is 1 inch bigger and you were running almost double the power to it. The JL is more expensive. I’ll take a system built with all JL Audio over Memphis audio any day, all day!
This was more of a consumer video opposed to a Scientific test. Sure it’s not the same power class when It comes to the amps or even the same woofer size. But it shows someone that is considering one of these systems what to expect. We matched them against each other because we believed Memphis made a run at the 13W7 and wanted to see how it did against it. Thanks for your comment.
@Brayden Mitchell if you have an 80 amp alternator upgrading your battery isn't going to do anything you have to upgrade your alternator first.. then put bigger wire connecting all of it together which is known as The Big Three
I now own a jl 13w7 and x 2 hd 1200.1 jl amps and a prefab box from rockford with 2 12 p3s and for the money is still a banging and nice looking box and I know for a fact it can take a belting after 5 years of pounding the shit out of it. And tbh I still rather belt that for loud bass than the 13w7 because I'm actually scared to blow it up due to cost 😂 I think I will keep the jl for a sq build with my inner child has grown up 😝
As a huge JL fan that runs W7s, I feel you didn't give the memphis a fair fight. The memphis has a slight cone area advantage with a big power handling advantage. They have to be in proper boxes and I'm sure the memphis would out perform the W7 in spl. Please use a proper spl meter, that thing is a joke. W7 will win in sound quality.
he didn't give them a fair fight at all , watch my video on this cuz I explain exactly what was done wrong here . I love both subs and this video is a disgrace to both .
@@mazda2284 yea I subscribed to your channel, I've been looking to do something different and the whole memphis 65 line has peaked my interest. I wish I could find more information on this line. I can't believe it's not more popular. The amps put out great power and match up perfect with mojo, m7s and the VIV sub. The VIV component line is nice too. Do you know how long this VIV line has been out?
@@philchristmas4071 around 2 years , the guy that designed the surrounds and much of the drivers came from MTX , he was the guy that did the 95series and other odd shaped mtx surrounds for the round subs , i had the 95 series but it was a flop imo to the old 9500 just due to the massive quality differences . i follow many actual driver designers
Video hasn't finished but I saw a comment making thinking that the jl might have lost on dB, let's be honest the jl is an sq sub not spl even though it's probably the best sounding spl money can buy and is the sub used in their 20k$ home theatre subs too I forget their names they do dual woofer version think that's the 20k dollar model but they also do ported and sealed i think, I haven't seen the jl box yet but feels like it's sealed for the dB metre number Edit listening to results maybe not audible in volume but type of bass would have to be different. I am biased though guys won't lie I'm a fan boy hard and I own the hd 1200 and hd 600 4 channel beautiful amps and so tiny and well made! Although even I admit it didn't have the resolution of a massive old class 150w rms x4 class ab clarion amp (which I think was something else rebranded tbh can't find info anywhere) the highs just sound better on it to my memory sorry jl still love you lol.
@@JMT34237 In the picture it looks sealed, but look up " VIVI 1422 Loaded " and it clearly says in the specs that it's a side ported box. It's made by Memphis themselves.
@@JMT34237 just search it on UA-cam. Its definitely a ported box .I think it's the Inphase car audio channel that has a video showing the ported side of the box.
Why is the DB level so low????? My Sundown SA V3 8"s and those are my smallest Subs I use in my car when I need space do 146 on music... What was your volume at?? That memphis should be doing way way way way more then 117 db.... It's a 14" Sub it should have eaisly done 140 no issues... Something isn't right about this
Hold up so you have the JL in a better box? How is this a fair test AT ALL. Every good technician knows ENCLOSURE IS EVERYTHING. Also what kind of meter is that? Is it even made to take SPL DB readings? It looks like a worksite meter for construction... Also the JL has a lower FS so of course its going to like the lows a little more (testing isnt accurate so thats not very important anyways)
That Memphis needs to be broke in, I have one, it hits alot harder then when I first got it. And its way louder than the w7 I had.. and I got the prefab box Memphis made for the viv , mine is also underpowered , I got it on a prxa1500.1 Memphis amp. The sound quality is the same as the w7.
Which brand has cleaner and softer thumping bass? JL Audio, CT Sounds or DD Audio? I hope someone will reply because i want to buy one of those before christmas'
When comparing subwoofers output for spl you should use a SPL meter to compare output of the bass . No one uses that mic you use to officially test spl levels of subs Might as well use a phone app to check the loudness the way you did it .
This was a very basic db test not SPL. It was apples to apples when I came to the vehicle and other parts of the audio system. It’s more of a consumer video opposed to a Scientific test. We used a phone app too with the same results. But we have been getting a little push Back on the comments so Wayne at TermLab is sending out their Rebel SPL meter and we’ll do another video to compare SPL. Thanks for the comment
@@BreakersStereo can you test them at 30 hz also please? I know the JL won't like it but the memphis is tuned lower than the W7 box and that's the frequencies that my customer want when they are choosing subs.
You must have a battery/ capacitator, no way that alternator is taking it 😂 unless you got an after market alternator, on that note, an OG in the audio game told me "ditch the batteries, get a high output alternator!" Less weight, more gas same power, tunning comes in handy, the frequency on my 10" is so low audio shops don't believe it the sound I'm putting out, might make a video, Every track sounds like it came from the studio but with BASS!!! I love it 😍
Question: The JL Audio Sub was in a ported enclosure. The Memphis sub seemed to be placed in a sealed enclosure (unless the ports are located on the back). A ported enclosure will have an SPL advantage (given the fact that they have similar power handling abilities). Wouldn’t that possibly make the results of this comparison invalid?
@@BreakersStereo why did you delete all the other observations? you might as well stick with deleting comments at this point . the meter isn't a real meter. the boxes are different, no real clamped power .
The Memphis looks like a modified Peerless STW… odd that it’s more expensive and specs lower. Seems like they scaled it down 1”, did a double roll surround, perhaps a few other things but lost 1000wrms of power handling. An odd choice but a great driver.
Nothing was changed. It more than likely is the same sub. A lot of these subs come from the same build house with the same soft parts. They are tested to the limit. A company buys it, then brands it and sets the wattage rating in between.
Right now I’m between buying a JL W7 10, or 2 MOJO 8s for my Honda hatchback. What is your guys opinion. I’m looking for clean sound but I also want it to slam.
Oh…… tough decision.. those 8” are impressive but the 10W7 has been solid for like 20 years without a redesign. Let’s hear what everyone has to say about this⁉️
You made the statement JL is the standard to beat I'd almost bet a month salary that sundown audio would beat JL no problem especially when the JL price is so high
@@jase1911 A w7 will sound cleaner and more accurate than any sundown sub, sundowns top sub is no comparison to a w7 since the sundown would just blow it off this planet but wont wound anywhere near as clean as a w7
We are eager to do that test! We are in the middle of working a deal with Sundown to become an authorize dealer and if they deal works out we will definitely be doing that!
The test that you ran was very biased because JL lamp is regulated power the Memphis amp doesn't make regulated power so you going to get the full 1200 watts no matter what out of the JL audio amp the Memphis amp you might have been getting a good thousand out of it if that and then you using a prefab box as opposed to a custom box the prefab box for Memphis not good and they look like a custom box for the JL sub and no one in the car listens to 40 50 and 60 HZ those are fourth and six dollars soundtracks mostly people who listen to music is 33 Hertz 32 35 tops so that test that you did didn't do anything to say Memphis is not as good as JL it was a very poor test in my opinion
At the time that’s all we had. But since this video people called me out for using it. So we bite the bullet bought a $1000 TermPro SPL meter, the same ones they use in DB Drag competitions. So now we use that in our videos.
I have 2 sixfive amps. 2200.1 And 5chan with the mojo 15..I. All for 2door tahoe. I want custom box. 4 Focal 6.5s but may add 6x9s in the side rear area. I'm looking for recommendations on what else do I need.
Two w6 12s if you have the room. Two 12s will have a lot more cone area than a single 13.5” sub so it’ll be louder. Also they both are good for sound quality.
@@jamal2490able i have the 2 12s already they are good but i just bought the 13w7 in a single ported box......i need that deeper low bass i hope its better than the 2 12s
One of the other categories that Jl Audio dominates is incredible bass at 1K watts or lower! No high output alternators needed and not to mention the W7 has been the at the top for 21 years already!!! That’s freakn crazy!!!
Subwoofer ratings are ridiculous you cant find the best because when you search what's they best they try to tell you the most marketed products are the best and they lie but for a really different beautiful low bass smooth sound and hits hard the best hands down is the jl audio w7s people tell me sundowns are better because there louder but they dont have that different bass sound as the jl audio does
For people that care about quality already know the W7s and W6s are king but it's nice to see memphis subs performing well.
King of what?
The jl audio sub outperformed using less power. The Memphis sub used nearly double the amount of power and came up short. So in terms of what I seen was a subwoofer that was loud using a amplifier that's efficient enough to not tax an electrical system. You get what you pay for
This could easily be due to box rise and the jl amp having a regulated power supply.
Box design and install will matter vastly more that the base equipment.
The enclosure makes the largest difference. That's just hands down fact. Both subs are going to want entirely different enclosures to before optimally.
The JL is $300 more..and a difference of $800 of what he showed us here, so, 2db differences at most is definitely getting what you pay for...lol. I wouldn't spend that much extra for a half db gain ✌️ dude you're smokin' crack
@@MemphisMojo15s if your after DB you are buying the wrong woofers all together these are for actual music to sound good and have an authoritative bottom end not doing big numbers! What you are wanting is DC audio, DD, Incriminator, sundown somebody who builds high power subs and amps! It would be like buying a big burp sub to put into a sound quality system ain’t gonna work to good!
@@tammyforbes2101 apparently you know your stuff. I like that.
@@tammyforbes2101 I did 145.6db at 40hz with the Memphis VIV while still sounding amazing, the problem with this video is that its done horribly wrong and without the proper information. the meter isn't a real actual meter , no clamp meter to see what power each is actually doing , totally different boxes ... this looks like it was made by someone not actually in car audio and was paid promotion.
You should have ran the Memphis on the jl amp to see the numbers. That jl amp is a masterpiece in quality. Far superior to that Memphis amp 10 fold
Not to mention the 1000/2 class ab. Less efficient, but the dynamic mosfet power supply was new, for the time. A regulated power supply. This when Rockford and other companies were taking advantage of igbt power amplification that while somewhat efficient, held high distortion. People were blinded by the simplified power boost, but had little knowledge of the harmonic distortion.
Then, jl came.
Jl is the best in my opinion. Sounds great with less power. I also like Rockford 👍 👌
That jl has so much more to give. Box isnt near big enough. Just had jl help me design a box for a long time customer at the shop I work for and its 2 13w7 4th order bandpass and it was almost 12 cube after everything was done. It's a monster on 4.5k watts.
40-20 Hz is where I have heard the most difference, and where the W7 shines. It sounds good at higher Hz, and smashes the lows. Kinda disappointed this test didn't cover 40-10 Hz.
whats the point to test it at 10hz?
@@BASSstarlet so we can see how it performs at 10hz
@@JesseJames83 what song makes 10hz
@@leviellis9034 Be Happy 10 Hz Binaural Beats Serotonin
1. You get what you pay for. 2. If you want it loud, clean, efficient, and in a relatively compact enclosure, then the W7 is hard to beat. I am stating this for the average Joe that only wants one or two subs in a daily driven vehicle. I am not talking about people who wall off a vehicle for the sole purpose of floating a farmer's coveralls. Someone who has a wide variety of musical preferences. JL has done their homework on the W7. I admit, I have heard the Memphis in person at a local shop and it sounds great in the showroom at low to moderate volume, but I can not speak for it when it comes to in-vehicle and at the limit listening. Bottom line: there is no perfect subwoofer OR enclosure. It all depends on your budget, listening preference, and how much room you can sacrifice for the installation. Remember, bass is a lot like drag racing. The more you want, (the faster you want to go) the more exponential the amount of money you will be paying. I have been doing car audio for 30 years and I speak from experience. I replaced two CHEAP Pioneer 15" subwoofers that were sealed in a 4 cu. ft. enclosure, with a single 12w7 in a 1.75 cu. ft. enclosure. Both setups were getting 1000 watts RMS, yet the 12w7 had half the enclosure size. I had both setups metered (back in 2002) and the 12w7 was 2.5 dB louder. The 15's sounded really awesome for what they were, but the JL W7 was better. The difference between them was on either end of the dB scale, at VERY low levels and at very extreme levels. None of my W7s ever suffered a failure. Honestly, I think most subwoofers have the potential to satisfy, as long as you don't cheap out too hard. I would always rather have some cheap subs in the right box than some high dollar subs in the wrong box. Great video though! I do hope to see some Term Lab results, and I think what Memphis has come up with, as far as cone area VS. excursion was quite clever! Sneaky sonsabitches, LoL!
Thanks for your comment the purpose of this video was show 1. JL Audio makes a great woofer in their W7 and is good for the guy that wants a lot of bass in his trunk not necessarily for the guy that competes or walls is car. 2. That Memphis makes a set up that is much less and sounds very similar to the JL set up. True the test equipment used was inexpensive but with all other things being equal it served its purpose. And yeah as soon as I get the Term pro stuff in and learn how to use it we will test again!! Thanks again for your comment and I hope others read it to see your perspective.
@@BreakersStereoplz test the 15" 2200 rms memphis mojo!!!!! Compare it to a 15 of JL of equal power/or price? 🙏
We need a top 5 of the best subs & mono amps in the game right now! Great comparison
Ds18 hands down
@@snowman251 in a daily driver set up? Or is that more of a competition set up?
W7 still one of the best for SQL
Best at what? There are several categories, and different subs perform better in them.
@@JayRSwan for a daily driver. Need that two blocks away chest pounding slap
JL got their game tight. They always been on top. JL audio is the only brand to make audiophile subs for homes, $4k a piece come on man!! 🤯😂
4k? their 13w7 is 25k for home. 4k is an entry-level home sub.
I know I have already commented, but I wanted to point out a few other things. 1. Both drivers should have been given the same amplifier to power them. 2. The Memphis has a slight advantage, since it came in a factory prebuilt enclosure. (factory enclosures most often have had some research & development) The JL13 seemed to have been loaded in a basic "JL Spec" enclosure. 3. The subs' in-car frequency response should have been measured with a calibrated mic while playing PINK NOISE. - this would somewhat reveal the test vehicle's cabin gain, and these drivers will perform much differently in different sized vehicles. I know this video was a couple years ago, but JL has raised the price of the 13W7 to currently $1,799.99. (which is ridiculous) The Memphis is showing a price of $999.95. Even when the JL was $1,449.99 - it wasn't at the same price point as the Memphis, but I get it. It's cool to see a comparison between two flagship drivers. I love my ported 13w7, but I am getting ready to design a custom sealed enclosure and see what it will do!
It's crazy. I got my w7s several years ago and the price has basically doubled since I got it. But the amplifiers are about the same price I paid back then. Why did the sub price jump so much?
@@Jay-pr2kt Two things: inflation and GREED. With just inflation adjusted from 2002, the 13W7 should be sitting at $1,549.99. Unfortunately, people are starting to realize what the W7's are all about and people are willing to pay the extortion fee.
I maybe missed it, but the JL amp you tuned is the RD series, not the HD series. I do not think the RD series plays it's full potential at 1.5ohms. I know the RD is rated for 2ohms minimum so the test may be flawed from the start. Great video anyways. Thank you for posting it.
The RD was sitting in front of the HD but his hand was tuning on the HD.
I have the RD1500 and it’s the only amp in the rd series to be 1 ohm stable. The 1000w and lower are 2 ohm stable
@@brent7900 i just watched a vid with the RD1000 on a dyno and it did a certified run of like 1800w@1.33Ohm. impressive
@@Cheeseypoofs85
What vid is that?
Williston Audio Labs
Dj magic Mike is what got me into car audio
Memphis makes great woofers but they aren't on par with the W7. The JL has a flatter response, where the Memphis drops sharply as you get into higher frequencies. A 10db increase is what the human ear perceives as twice as loud and the JL is almost at 7, so that's going to be pretty noticeable. At 80hz I'd imagine it would tip even further in JL's favor. Efficiency is another thing to consider, a 13W7 is using half the power to produce the same volume, that's a big difference and plays a big part in system design if you now have to have hardware capable of delivering that extra 1k watts...
JL really has bass down, there's not many other woofer's out there that can compete with the sound quality of a JL woofer. A W3 or W6 are even difficult to compete with. They may not be the loudest and they are pretty pricy, but if you want clean, deep, and accurate bass they are the way to go.
I run 4x15 JL W0s off a single HD 1200/1 and have never heard anybody talk smack about My system.
That’s a good combo lots of cone area with an amp that matches in power. Very efficient set up. I had (6)12” W1 off (2) 500/1 back in the day and it was super loud.
Nice! I run 4 12" WOs in a huge 4th order with a kicker 1200.1t(1ohm). My sundown and DS-18 buddies who are running multiple amps, 15" subs , extra batteries, all out on upgrades and my van is killing them. Bass is deep and clean. Sundown Dealer is telling me GTFO as his clientele is giving him the old "I want a refund"!
And the mojo pulls more power. having it In the back of your Nissan means nothing just cause you set the gain doesn't stop the 12v system from clipping your woofer
12v 😂😂😂😂😂 you know nothing of a cars electrical system.
@@pstain1 That's what everyone calls in the car audio space even if you run aftermarket batteries/alternators. So clearly YOU have no idea. In fact, you're exactly the guy we don't like in the community so please go find another hobby.
@@krowwithakay 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@krowwithakay I mean look at this video and tell me with a straight face that this video Belongs in the car audio community at all . its a slap in the face to all the legitimate testers in the community
Breaking in the woofers make a difference. Box rise, magnet, port length and depth but it was a good sound off.
My 13w7s from a few years ago sounded really good. But they definitely needed to be broken in. They didn’t sound good at high volume low frequency (below 30hz)
Looks like a lot of people missed the whole point of this video🥴🤷♂️. Great video man!!
Thank you!!!
Thats wassup i respect this face off. You can save a few bucks with memphis & not really notice the difference in sound. However the memphis system is drawing way more power, JL system is far more efficient, so long term much better performance & efficiency. :
Salute
I cant find many comparisons between JL & Memphis. I am trying to decide between a Memphis VIV900.5 and an HD900/5. Can i ask your thoughts or can u do a comparison plz. TIA
My viv 1422 underpowered does 140.6 in a custom enclosure. For all wondering about sq it is very good! Plays everything perfectly and very smoothly been bumping mine for a year trying to see if it would let go as well. Not one issue stays very cool. Mind you im using a custom 2000.1 that does 2500+ at 1ohm but after rise she is under powered
The exact content I needed to see!
From where I'm sitting JL won across the board. Yes it was close, but a win is a win. Plus the JL amp was rated at a lot less power.
I would like to see this test using the same amp for both subs in this test.
Didn’t think about that…. That would have been good
And the JL Audio W713 is under powered by about 200 watts in this video I would assume, but the Memphis Audio VIV1422 has a amp that is putting out at the top of the RMS of the subwoofer at 2,200 watts rms. The JL could go a little more on power but the Memphis Audio 14 is more so at its RMS limit.
It's simple to compare what's hot and what's not by secondary market values, just filter eBay sold auctions.
I've got the same sub/box combo, but I am running the memphis mojo pro 3000.1 amp. I've heard the jl w7, and with the combo I have, it would match up with that.
Should’ve kept them both on same amp.
Great Video. I would like to hear you opinion on the sound quality of the 2. I know that is so subjective but can be somewhat data driven. The one item in all of this is the power. The JL Audio was louder with almost half the power. Yes it is more expensive but you will have to double the amount of power the car produces to drive the Memphis system which will increase the price. I would like to see 30 and 70 added to this test in the future. The other item I noticed is how consistent the SPL numbers were across the board on the JL compared to the Memphis which could show better sound quality as you don't have to tune the system as much. Maybe showing an average of the SPL readings between to the 2 to see what the average shows. Again very cool test.
For all those who didn't see the JL amp it is in the same spot as the Memphis. The camera shot doesn't show it that well but you can make out the amp and notice it is the HD1200.
Where did you see what each sub was seeing for wattage? Cuz I've watched this video multiple times and never once seen a clamp
I've had a jl13 w7 and that thing is amazing , it gives a deep and clean bass. I had it on a bmwx5 and I promise you on some songs I couldn't even turn it up all the way cause it rattled too much hahah
Lol saying a w7 is a spl subwoofer is definitely something a JL fan does not want to hear 🤣🤣🤣 laughed way to hard at this comparison
I run 13w7s and can get hairs tricks and make shit float no problem. Love both JL & big SPL 🤙
JL sounds clean.....
It’s not street bass, it’s more musical.....
It’s a 20 year old design and Chinese subs are stills trying to take the W7 out!!!!!
The thing is, he's using more cone area and twice the power to try and beat that JL!! Lmfao get that shit JL
Lol no
@bone-snypa Amen brother!!!!!
If one sub had port holes and the other didnt wouldnt that make a big difference in DBs?
Man.... you went all the way back by playing DJ Magic Mike: Feel the Bass🔊🎵🎶👍🏾👍🏾
Ever checked out the memphis MOJO series?
Yeah not an accurate comparison imo
It’s called clean power not distorted and also what will last longer we alll know the answer JL ALL DAY
So I have no idea what you are doing there, but I hit 151db with my Memphis 14 with the 2200 running it. My components alone will hit higher than what you did.
Long ago I had the Mojo 15 with a 1000 watt class D in Green Bay I had second place I had a stingray battery that wasn't fully charged so I had to go again after burping over on the DB drag race car shut off. I will build again I'll probably go with Memphis again
yea your door speakers probably would outperform the scores posted in this video lol .
He was measuring with A-weighting, absolutely the wrong setting. You are loosing like 30 dB, it filters everything below 1000 Hz! Come on. Learn some basic sound science first.
It’s bit right there when it takes 2x the power to duplicate.. you’ll be spending 3x more in money to power that with electrical upgrades as you start multiplying everything out
would love to see how the earthquake holee 15 inch does up against other leading brands in spl and not least the super low hz bass..i will always remember when the earthquake magma with slaps came out and it broke just about all competition it met until cadence beast master dragrace 15 inch came out in 2002 or somewhere around those years.
those are extremely hard to find nowdays . judging from how this video was done id say they don't have a clue what ur talking about, heck they didn't use a actual spl meter or proper methods for testing even . 20 + years ago when those subs were made they were at the top of the charts , the w7 came out somewhere around the same time and is still here today
I have a first generation 12 Magma ( dual 3 ohm ) bought in 1999, it's 2024. Earthquake still makes the Holee s, the sub zero, and the Magma. And Still made in the USA
Should've did a 3 way competition and threw in the RF T2 13 inch
Adire Subwoofers for the win - Better pricing than JL W6 and W7 and just as good SQ
ok we know which one is louder,but which sounds better.i bet the jl they are known for sq.id like to have seen a bit different a test.20 30 and 40hz vs 40 50 and 60 dome here.
Coming through my JBL speaker 🔊 sounds like that Memphis was 🪘 beating the hardest!
Very cool. I have the 12w7 in a smaller box, with a Rockford Fosgate R2-1200X1 amp.. trying to get a jlaudio amp. I need to tweak it I think. Maybe the Rockford can still make it sound good.
Thanks for the comment!!
The problem is that JL woofer is a 3 ohm speaker so it’s hard to find an amp that will work other than the JL Audio.
LET ME EXPLAIN:
The JL amps output the same power between 1.5-4 ohm. Whereas your Rockford amp is rated at:
400 watts RMS x 1 at 4 ohms
800 watts RMS x 1 at 2 ohms
1,200 watts RMS x 1 at 1 ohm
So at 3 ohm(the impedance of your W7) that amp only outputs about 600 watts. Now the W7 is rated between 400-1000 but you want to be at 1000 or close to it. JL was sneaky when they designed this woofer because no amp is optimized to be loaded to 3 ohms. Normally 1 ohm or 2 ohm.
And since the JL Amps put out the same power between 1.5-4 ohms their older Slash Series or HD are the best amps to run that woofer. The HD750/1 ($999)will work but the HD1200/1. $1499!
But if you don’t want spend so much here’s an alternative:
1600.1 EVOX2 - 2Ω Here are the ratings
Power @ 4Ω: 1 X 1056 WRMS
Power @ 2Ω: 1 X 1600 WRMS
So at 3 ohms that should put you right in the middle 1300 or so. Which is plenty of power! Now those amps are a little over rated in my option so you should be just fine. And only $550
Ive been running my 13.5 on an rockford 1000 for like 8 yrs now. It works pretty good.
Considering the numbers, and the fact that the difference is either inaudible or almost inaudible, I could do a lot with the extra money I’m saving on the Memphis
I don't understand why they weren't tested at 20 and 30 hz. I'm willing to bet that the Memphis probably would've performed the low range better just based on cone area and power handling.
JL audio is definitely expensive but regardless of the music it sounds good!
I just like the fact that DJ Magic Mike was played!!!
Yeah! Old heads rule!
@@BreakersStereo Absolutely
You did us wrong, first of all, the amp you put on the 13W7 was the RD500/1, rated 500rms at 2 ohms, at 1.5 ohms maybe puts out 600rms, this is about 25% the power you are putting on the Memphis. If you had the 1200HD and even better if you had the 1200/1 V3, the 13W7 would have obliterated the Memphis, and the difference would be very noticeable. THUMBS DOWN 👎🏼 ON THIS VIDEO!
Yea the whole testing process was horrible, he dont even know which sub is seeing more or less power but tells people that... don't matter what he put it on cuz the meter he is using for spl isn't a actual meter , and there was no wattage testing done .
@mazda2284 yes, this is even worse than people are stating. Crap meter, set on the wrong filtering for low frequencies.
Fuck that shit. 2700 for JL😶
I like this video. Finally some impartial data!
Thanks we appreciate it!
He showed us the HD 1200 but used the RD version instead. I’m disappointed in this.
@@alphaone3218 he gained the HD amp. You’ll notice as he turned the gain on the HD amp, the clipping light went on on the SMD. Plus that RD amp isn’t capable of those numbers.
They are both get subs and amp but and great video by the way I just think the comparison it’s exactly evenly matched sub to amp and box is basically what I’m getting to
It’s not evenly matched sub to amp to box
The Memphis subwoofer looks a lot like the Peerless STW-350F. I wonder if Peerless is making the subwoofer for Memphis?
I was thinking the same thing and from the specs and design it is but he didn’t show any close ups of the sub talk about the design or coil you would of think he would of brought that up they must have done something wrong with it smelling like it was going to blow not even clipping on 2200 watts when it should be able to handle another 1300 watts and the whole design allows for much better cooling of the voice coil and more emphasis on motor force and control...
Memphis has been around forever. Who is peerless?
You also need to calculated the in the fact that the Memphis woofer is 1 inch bigger and you were running almost double the power to it. The JL is more expensive. I’ll take a system built with all JL Audio over Memphis audio any day, all day!
This was more of a consumer video opposed to a Scientific test. Sure it’s not the same power class when It comes to the amps or even the same woofer size. But it shows someone that is considering one of these systems what to expect. We matched them against each other because we believed Memphis made a run at the 13W7 and wanted to see how it did against it. Thanks for your comment.
The stock battery was holding him back
@Brayden Mitchell definitely & big 3 too 👍
@Brayden Mitchell if you have an 80 amp alternator upgrading your battery isn't going to do anything you have to upgrade your alternator first.. then put bigger wire connecting all of it together which is known as The Big Three
I now own a jl 13w7 and x 2 hd 1200.1 jl amps and a prefab box from rockford with 2 12 p3s and for the money is still a banging and nice looking box and I know for a fact it can take a belting after 5 years of pounding the shit out of it. And tbh I still rather belt that for loud bass than the 13w7 because I'm actually scared to blow it up due to cost 😂
I think I will keep the jl for a sq build with my inner child has grown up 😝
Not even comparing apples to apples. I had 1 10w3 and a 900/5 all jl in a steathbox for a sliverado and was at 130db
You're not using they JL amp you said you would but I'm ok with it because you used it on both subs
it was in there.. they also have an RD for front stage
As a huge JL fan that runs W7s, I feel you didn't give the memphis a fair fight. The memphis has a slight cone area advantage with a big power handling advantage. They have to be in proper boxes and I'm sure the memphis would out perform the W7 in spl. Please use a proper spl meter, that thing is a joke. W7 will win in sound quality.
he didn't give them a fair fight at all , watch my video on this cuz I explain exactly what was done wrong here . I love both subs and this video is a disgrace to both .
@@mazda2284 yea I subscribed to your channel, I've been looking to do something different and the whole memphis 65 line has peaked my interest. I wish I could find more information on this line. I can't believe it's not more popular. The amps put out great power and match up perfect with mojo, m7s and the VIV sub. The VIV component line is nice too. Do you know how long this VIV line has been out?
@@philchristmas4071 around 2 years , the guy that designed the surrounds and much of the drivers came from MTX , he was the guy that did the 95series and other odd shaped mtx surrounds for the round subs , i had the 95 series but it was a flop imo to the old 9500 just due to the massive quality differences . i follow many actual driver designers
If you dont have the money memphis i had the mojo x 2 of them in a custom box tuned to 32 on jl 1000/ in a honda accord it was crazy stinger battery
You need to play that Jeezy "Poppin"
Video hasn't finished but I saw a comment making thinking that the jl might have lost on dB, let's be honest the jl is an sq sub not spl even though it's probably the best sounding spl money can buy and is the sub used in their 20k$ home theatre subs too I forget their names they do dual woofer version think that's the 20k dollar model but they also do ported and sealed i think, I haven't seen the jl box yet but feels like it's sealed for the dB metre number
Edit listening to results maybe not audible in volume but type of bass would have to be different. I am biased though guys won't lie I'm a fan boy hard and I own the hd 1200 and hd 600 4 channel beautiful amps and so tiny and well made! Although even I admit it didn't have the resolution of a massive old class 150w rms x4 class ab clarion amp (which I think was something else rebranded tbh can't find info anywhere) the highs just sound better on it to my memory sorry jl still love you lol.
So your not going to mention that Memphis needed twice the power to not even match the JL !! come on !!
Wish you would have tested on same amplifier
Memphis audio mojo 12 1500rms watts or jl audio w7 1000rms watts ??????
And JL is not an SPL driver. It just also puts out good SPL.
And which have better sound quality? I think jl audio ? Cuz that’s real means😐
I wanna see a Crossfire c5 against the Memphis mojo pro
Is the JL in a slot port box and the Memphis in a sealed box? If so that is def. not an apples to apples comparison.
The Memphis box was a ported box too. Look it up. JL FTW.
@@rudycorraudio9089 1:54 looks sealed to me 1:57 looks ported to me
@@JMT34237 In the picture it looks sealed, but look up " VIVI 1422 Loaded " and it clearly says in the specs that it's a side ported box. It's made by Memphis themselves.
@@rudycorraudio9089 cant find it. I googled it.
@@JMT34237 just search it on UA-cam. Its definitely a ported box .I think it's the Inphase car audio channel that has a video showing the ported side of the box.
Why is the DB level so low????? My Sundown SA V3 8"s and those are my smallest Subs I use in my car when I need space do 146 on music... What was your volume at?? That memphis should be doing way way way way more then 117 db.... It's a 14" Sub it should have eaisly done 140 no issues... Something isn't right about this
This dope doesn't even understand measurement standards. Major fail from the jump.
Hold up so you have the JL in a better box? How is this a fair test AT ALL. Every good technician knows ENCLOSURE IS EVERYTHING.
Also what kind of meter is that? Is it even made to take SPL DB readings? It looks like a worksite meter for construction...
Also the JL has a lower FS so of course its going to like the lows a little more (testing isnt accurate so thats not very important anyways)
Yep. Sketch 35 dollar meter... set wrong for low frequencies.
That Memphis needs to be broke in, I have one, it hits alot harder then when I first got it. And its way louder than the w7 I had.. and I got the prefab box Memphis made for the viv , mine is also underpowered , I got it on a prxa1500.1 Memphis amp. The sound quality is the same as the w7.
Which brand has cleaner and softer thumping bass? JL Audio, CT Sounds or DD Audio? I hope someone will reply because i want to buy one of those before christmas'
When comparing subwoofers output for spl you should use a SPL meter to compare output of the bass . No one uses that mic you use to officially test spl levels of subs
Might as well use a phone app to check the loudness the way you did it .
This was a very basic db test not SPL. It was apples to apples when I came to the vehicle and other parts of the audio system. It’s more of a consumer video opposed to a Scientific test. We used a phone app too with the same results. But we have been getting a little push Back on the comments so Wayne at TermLab is sending out their Rebel SPL meter and we’ll do another video to compare SPL. Thanks for the comment
@@BreakersStereo can you test them at 30 hz also please? I know the JL won't like it but the memphis is tuned lower than the W7 box and that's the frequencies that my customer want when they are choosing subs.
@@BreakersStereo so where's the new test video?
we need w7 jl vs sundown c series 12
Sundown is just SPL monster. But they sound like crap as far as SQ.
Ce n'est qu'un test de puissance ... Qu'en est il de la performance de la qualité du son ?
You must have a battery/ capacitator, no way that alternator is taking it 😂 unless you got an after market alternator, on that note, an OG in the audio game told me "ditch the batteries, get a high output alternator!" Less weight, more gas same power, tunning comes in handy, the frequency on my 10" is so low audio shops don't believe it the sound I'm putting out, might make a video, Every track sounds like it came from the studio but with BASS!!! I love it 😍
Question:
The JL Audio Sub was in a ported enclosure.
The Memphis sub seemed to be placed in a sealed enclosure (unless the ports are located on the back).
A ported enclosure will have an SPL advantage (given the fact that they have similar power handling abilities). Wouldn’t that possibly make the results of this comparison invalid?
Yeah the port is on the side … good observations thou!
@@BreakersStereo why did you delete all the other observations? you might as well stick with deleting comments at this point . the meter isn't a real meter. the boxes are different, no real clamped power .
fixed reviews lol
@@mazda2284
It looks like you’re using the RD not HD JL Audio amp which is a cheaper unit not flagship
you are correct!! Big difference
The rd is a RD 400/4 obviously for the mids and highs,right next to it was the 1200/1
The slash 1200v3 is better yet.
I got that Memphis amp it’s power hungry
Pft... King of what?? DD9500? Rockford t2?? B2 audio? Sundown zv6?? Should i keep on??
The Memphis looks like a modified Peerless STW… odd that it’s more expensive and specs lower. Seems like they scaled it down 1”, did a double roll surround, perhaps a few other things but lost 1000wrms of power handling. An odd choice but a great driver.
Nothing was changed. It more than likely is the same sub. A lot of these subs come from the same build house with the same soft parts. They are tested to the limit. A company buys it, then brands it and sets the wattage rating in between.
@@smackledorfmcsween it's 1" smaller so I'm sure they changed something though.
One box is sealed and the other ported with no specs, so not sure what the point of comparing these two subs was🧐
i think i will keep my zapco c2k 9.0xd amp and my 2 12 idmax v3
Key to this is price
Your comparing jl s best of best and memphis best is the mojo i wana see that speaker vs w7
The Memphis had rumble in the bass.
Just saw the HD amp in the background. My bad.
Right now I’m between buying a JL W7 10, or 2 MOJO 8s for my Honda hatchback. What is your guys opinion. I’m looking for clean sound but I also want it to slam.
Oh…… tough decision.. those 8” are impressive but the 10W7 has been solid for like 20 years without a redesign. Let’s hear what everyone has to say about this⁉️
What about a T1 power rockford fosgate 12inch T1 vs Jl⚖️⚖️⚖️ who Wins????
Jl won don't even have to watch, but still gunner cos dream sub and enjoy your videos lol
You made the statement JL is the standard to beat I'd almost bet a month salary that sundown audio would beat JL no problem especially when the JL price is so high
Ummmm, you get what you pay for and Sundown does not have SQ ......just SPL.
@@blkngwinn wow you are beyond wrong on that
@@jase1911 A w7 will sound cleaner and more accurate than any sundown sub, sundowns top sub is no comparison to a w7 since the sundown would just blow it off this planet but wont wound anywhere near as clean as a w7
Test a sundown zv5 against the W7 please
We are eager to do that test! We are in the middle of working a deal with Sundown to become an authorize dealer and if they deal works out we will definitely be doing that!
Sundown will win hands down
Why? The JL is a SQ sub
Sundown hands down
The test that you ran was very biased because JL lamp is regulated power the Memphis amp doesn't make regulated power so you going to get the full 1200 watts no matter what out of the JL audio amp the Memphis amp you might have been getting a good thousand out of it if that and then you using a prefab box as opposed to a custom box the prefab box for Memphis not good and they look like a custom box for the JL sub and no one in the car listens to 40 50 and 60 HZ those are fourth and six dollars soundtracks mostly people who listen to music is 33 Hertz 32 35 tops so that test that you did didn't do anything to say Memphis is not as good as JL it was a very poor test in my opinion
I had commented similar to this and my comment was removed... I talked about these points in my video on these subs .
Yall don't have a SSA mini meter?
At the time that’s all we had. But since this video people called me out for using it. So we bite the bullet bought a $1000 TermPro SPL meter, the same ones they use in DB Drag competitions. So now we use that in our videos.
@@BreakersStereothis should have been added to video, or a new video put up, or quitting 12-volt all-together.
U should have tried each sub on each amp
I have 2 sixfive amps. 2200.1
And 5chan with the mojo 15..I.
All for 2door tahoe.
I want custom box.
4 Focal 6.5s but may add 6x9s in the side rear area.
I'm looking for recommendations on what else do I need.
Damn!!! Maybe a DSP to tune it all in
can you compre 1 13w7 to 2 12w6 please?......i want to know which is a better hoice with jl 1200/1 v3 amp thanks!
Two w6 12s if you have the room. Two 12s will have a lot more cone area than a single 13.5” sub so it’ll be louder. Also they both are good for sound quality.
@@jamal2490able i have the 2 12s already they are good but i just bought the 13w7 in a single ported box......i need that deeper low bass i hope its better than the 2 12s
@@rizzayification all you needed is a custom box tuned to 30-32 . It’s all in the box I promise
Or save $$ and buy sundown audio subs and be louder than both of your choices
W7 by far or do 2 w6
Do a test with the JL powered with 1500w.
You guys aren’t even testing the HD 1200’amp it was another JL amp
One of the other categories that Jl Audio dominates is incredible bass at 1K watts or lower! No high output alternators needed and not to mention the W7 has been the at the top for 21 years already!!! That’s freakn crazy!!!
Nice vid homie
Subwoofer ratings are ridiculous you cant find the best because when you search what's they best they try to tell you the most marketed products are the best and they lie but for a really different beautiful low bass smooth sound and hits hard the best hands down is the jl audio w7s people tell me sundowns are better because there louder but they dont have that different bass sound as the jl audio does
Great vid