300 PRC Budget Build part 2: Barrel and Stock Work, Break-In

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  • @Ultimatereloader
    @Ultimatereloader  2 роки тому +1

    Interested in an Ultimate Reloader custom rifle? Sign up on the list here: ultimatereloader.com/rifles/

    • @hm1-u5f
      @hm1-u5f 2 роки тому +1

      Necking down 300 PRC to
      300 PRC WSM and 7 PRC WSW ?

  • @daveenriquez7790
    @daveenriquez7790 Рік тому

    Love your videos. I am more of the Budget Rifle build rifles and believe your recommendations over others greatly. Thank you for what you do! You are so meticulous in your builds as well as all your reloading. I so appreciate your attention to details. Thank you Gavin for all you do. Your fantastic Sir!

  • @machobunny1
    @machobunny1 3 роки тому +6

    Every time I watch these very "information packed" videos I WISH that you would provide more videos of what you are talking about. I spend all my time trying to visualize what you did. Did I guess correctly? I never can tell without a lot more work. MORE VIDEO coordinated with less and more focused talk would really be an improvement. Tell us what you are doing as you do it on camera. I love your shop...I have the same equipment - learning to use. Great work...great results...just a little hard to follow for a visually oriented person like me.

  • @dantheman7624
    @dantheman7624 4 роки тому +5

    Great job on the budget build. Its awesome seeing students of the trade getting better at what we love. Looking foward to a Mauser 98 build.

  • @racer4ever33
    @racer4ever33 4 роки тому +11

    Outstanding work. About as close to perfection as you can get. And yes, for all the haters, this is a budget long range rifle. Maybe those viewers need to see the price tag on some real custom long range competition rifles.

    • @Ultimatereloader
      @Ultimatereloader  4 роки тому +4

      Thanks for providing your perspective- it's truth! :)

    • @mavericknonconformist69721
      @mavericknonconformist69721 4 роки тому +3

      Oh yeah, not to mention the lead time to build it. They think it is all so easy.

    • @jaydunbar7538
      @jaydunbar7538 3 роки тому +1

      @@mavericknonconformist69721 are you saying I can't buy a long range precision rifle at Walmart for $400?

    • @mavericknonconformist69721
      @mavericknonconformist69721 3 роки тому +1

      @@jaydunbar7538 You get what you pay for.

  • @vernonlarson7016
    @vernonlarson7016 2 роки тому

    Nice video. The 300 prc is really catching on. Originally a 30-375 Ruger. What's cool about the 300 prc is u can use that ammo in a 30 Sherman mag. I got one getting made from Gray Sloan from swift Creek rifles. Batt action. Bartline barrel. 1.35 at shank. 1.25 at the end 30 inches long. Manners stock. Love your videos. Great builds.

  • @stevehowe9677
    @stevehowe9677 4 роки тому +5

    Enjoyed seeing more of the actual machining!

  • @repairfreak
    @repairfreak 4 роки тому +2

    Great video, makes a person realize just how much care and precision is needed to do things correctly. Videos like this bring a whole new level of appreciation into owning and shooting precision rifles.
    ✌️😎👍

  • @misterlewgee8874
    @misterlewgee8874 2 роки тому

    Could not easily find part 3...the comparison targets...
    Thanks for sharing all the details

  • @chandler1390
    @chandler1390 3 роки тому +1

    This series earned you a subscriber my man, much love from Australia

  • @tvh300
    @tvh300 4 роки тому +1

    Your videos keep getting better and better! I really enjoyed the more detailed machining explanations. Thanks for sharing!

  • @Tantrum791
    @Tantrum791 4 роки тому +14

    I love the builds!
    It would be interesting to do an actual budget build, maybe get a used 700 or win 70 action and buy a very budget oriented barrel ($150-250 or even a low round count takeoff barrel for sale on forums) and attempt to put something together for under 'x' amount of money and compare the accuracy of quality components to budget components given the same time, care, and precision involved?
    Would be interesting to see, for me anyway. Keep up the good work!

    • @stevensolinko8807
      @stevensolinko8807 4 роки тому +3

      My gunsmith did this with a slightly used Remington Long Range in 300 win mag. Just did the action/barrel blueprinting, and it shoots sub 3/8 moa. THAT'S a budget build.

    • @BushmasterM4A3
      @BushmasterM4A3 4 роки тому

      @@stevensolinko8807
      How much to blueprint barrel and action in your neck of the woods? Buying a Rem 700 from a guy for cheap so I have something similar in mind

    • @stevensolinko8807
      @stevensolinko8807 4 роки тому +2

      @@BushmasterM4A3 I think around $350.

    • @christiannordin640
      @christiannordin640 3 роки тому

      I still find that, even though you do make a good case for the attempt to be sort of a gamble and a lot of time/effort/cash spent one something that might be, with luck as good as, something that we can rely on being great or even better. I prefere to use nonbudget parts, work/time is far to expensive were I live

  • @karlweiby2307
    @karlweiby2307 4 роки тому +1

    Great info!! Great job showing where you have hiccups and how to recover. Not everything goes perfect. Should be some great comparisons between the two rifles. Wish more people would understand that “budget” doesn’t mean cheap. To help with some recoil management I would look at the limb saver butt pads with the air coils in them. I’ve put them on most of my rifles. They are a game changer

  • @johnsanford3043
    @johnsanford3043 Рік тому +1

    Love the video. I like your attention to detail where others may go meh 🤷‍♂️ messaged you guys about doing one for me!

  • @johnseptien3138
    @johnseptien3138 4 роки тому +2

    Gavin, I know there is a lot of folks that will thumb there nose at a 1/2" rifle and talk about how their guns will shoot in the .2"s or even .1"s but if the truth be known it is very difficult to shoot tight groups with a heavy recoil, sporter style stock. I prefer five shot groups to tell the story of consistency but with factory ammo and the style rifle, I would say that rifle is going to shine with handlaods and good (learned) bench technique.

  • @tjjablonski1066
    @tjjablonski1066 Місяць тому

    You are a great gunsmith

  • @christopherdrekr1078
    @christopherdrekr1078 3 роки тому

    Lips of the magazine ! Here we go another one ☝️

  • @bkworkingman
    @bkworkingman 3 роки тому

    Awesome video and gunsmithing work.Please keep this work up.

  • @alphadogpredators
    @alphadogpredators 3 роки тому +1

    Curious as to why u went with 300 prc over the rum ... you can drive the same high bc bullets faster with the rum ... my 30in barrel rum drives 212 eldx@ a bit over 3200...

  • @robertianbernard2112
    @robertianbernard2112 4 роки тому +2

    Gavin, Have loved your videos from the outset as your are down to earth. I have a greater appreciation for the cost the gunsmiths charge for their work. I like this build but because I am recoil "shy" I would not consider a caliber of this nature. If you ever get the chance in the future to build a 16-17ib "Fly" rifle in say a 260AI I think that would be an interesting build and load development exercise. Have a great day from Australia.

  • @foubert45
    @foubert45 4 роки тому +2

    Great video! Have you ever consider doing a build around the X-Bolt action and how that changes barrel and bottom metal fitting compared to the Remington 700 action?

  • @leefeatherston7014
    @leefeatherston7014 4 роки тому +2

    you're having a lot of fun thanks 👍

  • @pistoblack1091
    @pistoblack1091 4 роки тому

    Ola Gavintoobe, I hope you are very well, I wanted to say that I really like this program, but I would like you to put subtitles on what you are talking about, that there are many who see the program in all parts of the world, but do not understand what is speaking, because they speak another language, thank you very much and a cordial greeting from north cali, thank you very much for such a great contribution for the community and for the world

  • @tonydevich7937
    @tonydevich7937 2 роки тому

    I purchased those also

  • @MrFelix002
    @MrFelix002 2 роки тому

    both nice shooters, although i'll never shot that calibre i'm sticking with 30-06 and 6.5 creedmoor and 223

  • @JacksonMalcolm
    @JacksonMalcolm 4 роки тому +1

    I've thought about having my 7mm rem mag re barreled to a 300 PRC. In my testing the bipod is definitely the weakest link. It may be worth doing some testing/measuring on your end before writing off all bipods (hint Harris is the problem) square your rifle to the wall and measure the offset of the legs. Always bump the legs out one notch to make sure your not riding on the springs. Grab an atlas, why sit your $2000 rifle on a $79 bipod. I get the budget idea but there are some places not to skimp.

    • @H43339
      @H43339 4 роки тому

      I am Sorry, measuring for what ? Square your rifle to a wall and measure for what ?

    • @JacksonMalcolm
      @JacksonMalcolm 4 роки тому

      @@H43339 square the barrel to the wall or other flatserface and measure the distance to each leg, 3/8" difference isn't uncommon. Recoils will exploite this and it's why so many comp guys are moving to the atlas CAL or locking out the pan on their current bipods.

    • @H43339
      @H43339 4 роки тому

      @@JacksonMalcolm so you are saying that 3/8" difference is going to put a uneven torch or cant on the gun ? And be the cause of accuracy loss ?

    • @JacksonMalcolm
      @JacksonMalcolm 4 роки тому

      @@H43339 if you have time, take a look at all three parts of this video series. While bipod construction isn't directly addressed it's very easy to transfer to these mechanics of recoil over. Hope this helps clear this up. I believe part 2 is where bipod bouncing is looked at.
      ua-cam.com/video/whVH-FaZyQs/v-deo.html

    • @nebraskaman8247
      @nebraskaman8247 3 роки тому

      I'm a huge fan of shadow tech for shooting off of tripods. Also nice in tall grass for long shots. That is if you feel like failing it around lol.

  • @kickapoo621
    @kickapoo621 4 роки тому +4

    seeing your most recent content i wonder, are you looking into becoming a rifle manufacturer/gunsmith? It certainly looks like you are ready to produce your own custom rifles for customers to come!

  • @robertblaze5549
    @robertblaze5549 4 роки тому +1

    Budget build around $3000 hell yeah that's a deal. Nice work keep going

  • @jrbullock
    @jrbullock 4 місяці тому

    When truing up the bolt face and taking material off it and other areas, wouldn't that change your headspacing? Or am i completely out of left field on that one? Lol

  • @criticalbo
    @criticalbo 4 роки тому +2

    Have you thought about trying a different muzzle brake on the budget rifle? Like a Terminator or one from LR Customs? I would guess those would knock down the recoil quite a bit more. Awesome video and gunsmithing work. Love your videos

  • @micheleyashita9843
    @micheleyashita9843 2 роки тому

    Complimenti è un artista💪👍

  • @MrShenanigans85
    @MrShenanigans85 2 місяці тому

    @Ultimatereloader Do you have a video showing the range results of your budget Remington 700 .300PRC?

  • @rulonjjj
    @rulonjjj 4 роки тому

    Love the builds and love your content! Excellent work!

  • @magnus5356
    @magnus5356 4 роки тому

    Love the "BUDGET" build !

    • @Ultimatereloader
      @Ultimatereloader  4 роки тому +2

      I have to laugh at myself- should have called it "Kind of a budget high-end build" or something? 🤑

    • @magnus5356
      @magnus5356 4 роки тому +1

      @@Ultimatereloader it is relative as you said, but I really like how this shows that skilled labor isn't cheap for a reason! Will be really interesting to see how/if/ what difference there will be between these two rifles.

    • @IMPACTSHOOTING
      @IMPACTSHOOTING 4 роки тому +1

      gavintoobe 💸🎯

    • @Ultimatereloader
      @Ultimatereloader  4 роки тому +1

      You know it!

  • @RadDadisRad
    @RadDadisRad 4 роки тому

    That budget rifle looks like an awesome elk rifle and coyote rifle.

  • @chrisfisher3900
    @chrisfisher3900 3 роки тому

    Very impressive work. Love the videos

  • @timmcfarland3311
    @timmcfarland3311 4 роки тому +1

    Should’ve kept it 300 rum and chambered it for the 245 grain Berger’s

  • @plumbum6558
    @plumbum6558 4 роки тому

    I really enjoy watching your vids and I no that your choice of chambering is based on what’s new and popular but it seems a little biased based on hornady and what they have promoted. How about some comparisons builds to see if the new is better than the old chamberings might be fun for some new vids ! like 260 rem vs 6.5 creedmoore or something similar 300 ultra build vs 300 prc etc . I personally shoot custom built 6.5 x 284 and a crazy accurate 300 ultra lots of fun ! keep the vids coming !

  • @cwreese345
    @cwreese345 4 роки тому

    I'm asking because I'm just getting into all this also. If you are clocking your barrel with run out at the top, how does this affect your action truing. Doesn't it go against the whole bolt face truing?

  • @robertlunnar8260
    @robertlunnar8260 Рік тому

    Would a break tuner help and group files on this

  • @ForceRecon112
    @ForceRecon112 2 роки тому

    Have you had any desire to do another long range rifle, like maybe a 300 norma?

  • @Bmaier69
    @Bmaier69 3 роки тому

    First off thank you for providing so much epic content!
    I have a request.. can you somehow measure if your receiver in this 300prc build “RR” prefix rem 700 action is symmetrical at the rear scope base? I have heard that the newer actions need the rear portion of the scope base bedded. I also have done this on 4 actions to check.
    Place new never mounted steel base place it on action tighten front base screws finger tight. Now some will have a gap under the rear right side of the base as well as the entire rear section of the base is floating.
    The worst one I saw was the RR prefix I tried this on a C pre fix much older and it was rock solid.
    Also maybe I read the other comments and people don’t are up in arms about it being to expensive I have purchased everything to do this procedure from brownells for under $2000 I have 6 rem 700’s none of which have cost me over $400 buy a remage barrel $300-$700 and last time I checked a custom rifle that’s going to shoot that good will cost you $1500+
    optics are opinions and don’t count in cost of rifle.

  • @cromotocciano
    @cromotocciano 4 роки тому

    Machining is so cool. I want to see him make more stuff. A pistol. A Hi-point made out of metal so that you can plate it golden.

    • @1014p
      @1014p 4 місяці тому

      Maybe if he had a CNC machine.

  • @richardfranklin8811
    @richardfranklin8811 3 роки тому

    I really enjoy your videos, I would like to re-barrel a Winchester model 70. It is in 7 mm Remington mag at this point, but would like to change to .300 Winchester magnum. If you are interested, I will supply whatever you need to accomplish this task. Please let me know.

  • @Bourbon-Canted-Ky-Windage
    @Bourbon-Canted-Ky-Windage 3 роки тому +1

    Budget 300? Use hand tools and a bench top mini-lathe, to true up and accurize a rifle that will give your 300s a hard run for the money. This would be something a lot of us could do. Follow along and paint by the numbers! Keep in mind we don't have sponsors, the odds and ends tools and devices must be cost effective. In other words, do something we can do too!

  • @scottchambers7185
    @scottchambers7185 2 роки тому

    Gavin... what's your opinion on a 300 PRC vs a 300 PRC Sherman Improved (aka, 300 SM)? Just curious. I am wanting to build a custom hunting rifle in a 300 PRC, and am trying to understand whether the Sherman Improved version would be better. Of course it would allow for 2-or-so extra grains of water weight capacity -- but would it also help with the cartridge efficiency?

  • @heinrichstoltz1356
    @heinrichstoltz1356 4 роки тому

    Amazingly interesting build. Love following your projects, particularly the great detail and also seeing the work as you are doing it. The .300PRC is going to be my next rifle, but with limited choices in South Africa, I’m waiting for the Howa 1500 .300PRC to arrive. Custom unfortunately over here is LIMITED. 😔

    • @erick7862
      @erick7862 4 роки тому

      Heinrich Stoltz ha! Another saffer. I literally said the same thing in my comment, limited with options.
      There is a company who is importing the Kelbly Into SA, just a bit of a wait for licensing and building, plus the costs. But would rather do it properly and wait for a proper rifle, than wait 18+ months (incl licensing) for a howa.
      Would be great to stay in touch!

  • @daleksr449
    @daleksr449 3 роки тому

    What's the weight on both rides complete

  • @bradleytyrrell4417
    @bradleytyrrell4417 4 роки тому

    Awesome mate sweet as so jealous keep em coming

  • @alancoughlin4726
    @alancoughlin4726 4 роки тому

    I have a long action magnum bolt sitting in my safe that I want to build on. But don’t know what route to take with it. I have a 300 win mag hunting rifle so I was leaning towards that. It would be a budget build. What’s a good place to start? should I look at 300 prc?

  • @bretthl1
    @bretthl1 4 роки тому

    Gavin why do you pre-drill the chamber before performing the final barrel alignment?

    • @Ultimatereloader
      @Ultimatereloader  4 роки тому

      Because I have to in order to get the 0.0001" indicator far enough into the bore to indicate the throat area! :)

  • @ashmerch2558
    @ashmerch2558 4 роки тому

    $3500, ultra high end budget build... like it alot

    • @Ultimatereloader
      @Ultimatereloader  4 роки тому

      "ultra high end budget build" --> that's actually what I should have called it :)

  • @gregoryshelton1358
    @gregoryshelton1358 3 роки тому

    If you don’t have a home for the old barrel I would be happy to make an offer!

  • @nebraskaman8247
    @nebraskaman8247 3 роки тому

    What barrel contour did you pick for the budget rifle?

  • @dragonflyfab8982
    @dragonflyfab8982 4 роки тому

    How the heck do you indicate both axial a radia a barrel bore when it has lands a grooves

    • @Ultimatereloader
      @Ultimatereloader  4 роки тому +3

      It's not easy! You have to get an indicator tip in there and look for the "low spot" each time. You'll see the needle jump to the left and right, and you have to determine which direction is the groove, and use that as a reference. Perhaps I'll do an in-depth video covering this soon!

  • @porkchopspapi5757
    @porkchopspapi5757 4 роки тому

    Would you give us a rough idea of the cost of blueprinting an action & bolt?

    • @nebraskaman8247
      @nebraskaman8247 3 роки тому

      Few hundred bucks generally on a new build

  • @erick7862
    @erick7862 4 роки тому

    Hey Gavin! Thanks for the great videos!
    I actually watched this 2 part video series on the 300PRC since I have been looking for some options in my country (South Africa) - in sa, we a little behind and we don’t have any stock rifles in 300PRC yet, apparently some are coming though.
    I specifically want to have my build in a MDT chassis, and being struggling to find options. I now see that you using a Kelbly Atlas action in a MDT ACC chassis - I had a call like just 2 days ago with the company who import kelbly into SA -
    can I ask, could I get the model number, or spec sheet for that action? As I would love to have it in the mdt chassis too? I know you mentioned it was a custom action, but not sure if you could tell me which base “model” you used?
    This would really help me. Thanks in advance!

  • @keithmichlig2359
    @keithmichlig2359 3 роки тому

    What kind of recoil r u getting from the 300 prc

    • @Ultimatereloader
      @Ultimatereloader  3 роки тому

      This rifle kicks, the chassis gun we built (26lb) not so much

  • @tuckerjl
    @tuckerjl 4 роки тому

    With all your knowledge think you might do a video on the different styles of barrel crowns?

  • @toddd9182
    @toddd9182 4 роки тому

    What contour is the barrel heavy varmint? Is Rifle kind of top heavy or not to bad?

  • @sepehr8711
    @sepehr8711 4 роки тому

    How many round is the barrel life of .300 PRC ?

  • @saidisaidi647
    @saidisaidi647 2 роки тому

    I want to work with you I love this

  • @lobster8009
    @lobster8009 3 роки тому

    So all this for 0.5MOA now? Is it just me or does this not seem particularly impressive? My factory Mauser M18 can do that with factory hunting ammo when i have a good day. Just probably not for high round counts as it "only" has a 19mm barrel diameter at the muzzle. Something like a factory Blaser R8 can shot sub 0.25MOA with factory ammo if you do your part.

  • @cromotocciano
    @cromotocciano 4 роки тому

    28:04 the bigger the glob the better the job

  • @mapled3135
    @mapled3135 4 роки тому +1

    The “budget” rifle deserves better glass. I would say XTRII and up maybe a T4XI

    • @JacksonMalcolm
      @JacksonMalcolm 4 роки тому

      Couldn't agree more. Used glass is so cheap! "Cheap"

    • @mapled3135
      @mapled3135 4 роки тому

      jackson malcolm that’s right. It’s all subjective.

  • @tikkamarksman
    @tikkamarksman 4 роки тому +2

    Hello , Nice video 👍🏻
    About shooting a sporterrifle with a heavy recoiling caliber...
    I strongly recommend to read Nathan Fosters
    The Practical Guide To
    Long Range Shooting ☝️
    Its about master and controling the rifle rather than the YotTube-ordanary free-recoil-manner that take a tremendous effort from the shooter to accomplish.
    I think you noticed that yourself with the different
    bag setup 💡
    If... you buy the book ...
    Please don't hang up on Nathan's ruff language and jargon, just read the information ☝️
    Greatings from Sweden 😁

    • @Ultimatereloader
      @Ultimatereloader  4 роки тому

      Thanks, I'll check that out!

    • @xxwiejskixx
      @xxwiejskixx 4 роки тому

      Yeaah, Nathan completly change my aproach to bullet selection. He is a wise man.

  • @Mcgoo1515
    @Mcgoo1515 4 роки тому

    Just a thought, have you considered setting the video out so we see you do the work along the way and hear you talking as you work, rather than show us the finished product and hear you explain how you got there? It's very easy for me to suggest, much harder for you to do, I'm sure.

    • @Ultimatereloader
      @Ultimatereloader  4 роки тому

      I'm planning how to do that, but it would be broken down into smaller segments- each machining operation covered in a separate story. Else, the video would be 5 hours long- or longer! :)

  • @tuckerjl
    @tuckerjl 4 роки тому

    What's the advantages of ultra mag vs. win mag? I understand if you are hunting very large game but if you are using it for competition would the win mag be a better choice? That's is what PRC is right? Or am I mistaken and it's a new caliper ranking? Either way you do incredible work!! And your willingness to share your knowledge make you a truly remarkable young man!!

    • @Ultimatereloader
      @Ultimatereloader  4 роки тому

      Ultra Mag ditches the belt, and is all about max velocity for standard long-action rifles. With powder charges up to about 100 grains, it's the kind of standard 30 cal magnums. 300 Win Mag is more of a staple/common 30 cal magnum with less recoil, less heating of the barrel, and longer corresponding barrel life (I presume).

    • @Ultimatereloader
      @Ultimatereloader  4 роки тому +3

      @Reel-Lentless The key thing with 300 PRC (like 6.5 Creedmoor, etc) is that the entire cartridge is optimized for today's longer high-BC bullets.

  • @inthemountainswithmeachum3256
    @inthemountainswithmeachum3256 4 роки тому +3

    Makes no sense why people jump on these fads, 300 prc lol. Nothing special about it It's still a 30 caliber should have just left that ultra mag alone especially the way you had it shooting

  • @AZIROC
    @AZIROC 4 роки тому +2

    Imo, this channel is going the same way 8541 tactical went. (Good or bad, take it how you want). Went from stuff everyone can afford, explaining how things work and why they do what they do and how to improve upon it.... to stuff only people who get a 2nd mortgage or would only dream of owning can afford to make " budget builds" out of...most costing in the 4k+ range *before optic*.

    • @Ultimatereloader
      @Ultimatereloader  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks for the feedback (I appreciate feedback like this, especially when the person commenting is respectful like yourself). I would encourage you to check out my Budget Shooting and Reloading playlist: ua-cam.com/play/PLApPU7t86M4v6F0GuTBeF0-f6ghRR_RlI.html -- I'm hoping to do a lot more budget oriented stories this year... Including loading plated bullets. Stay tuned!

    • @joemiller9314
      @joemiller9314 4 роки тому

      Hi Gavin, have you ever looked into doing a short chamber re-barrel job? Can do a for quite a bit less and don’t have to break the bank with equipment...barrel vise, action wrench, reamer T-handle extension, and reamer and gauges can be rented. Just an idea of what the average Joe can do in their garage.

    • @AZIROC
      @AZIROC 4 роки тому

      @@Ultimatereloader yeah, I remember all those videos and there were great. I just feel if taking a R700, for example, and showing how it shoots then doing stuff to it with basic tool (or inexpensive ones) and show how it can improve the groups. Hell, if we can have 1000s of channels that all they do is "builds" of the same glock, then there should be room for Remington, savage's, rugers, Thompson, ect... even if the content is just how to lap lugs, adding pillars, to a factory stock (or atleast a stock under $400).

  • @dominicdecaro3757
    @dominicdecaro3757 4 роки тому +1

    Good god quit being so damn sensitive, you own a lathe it's not a budget build

  • @pajnrachannel4673
    @pajnrachannel4673 3 роки тому

    Talk too much

  • @7071t6
    @7071t6 Рік тому

    total cost over 25K easy people depending on where and who does it, so in AU its would be around the 15K plus cost of good Extreme long long-range scope so add 5K so around 20K to 30K depending on which caliber, so a .338 or 300nm would be around that or you could buy a mk22 and get it blueprinted and then you will have a totally pro f class shooting platform for sure? 🙌🙌👍👍👌👌✌✌🦘🦘