Ep. 111 - Choosing a PRC Cartridge

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  • Опубліковано 24 січ 2024
  • On this episode, Seth is joined by fellow marketeer, Judd Jarzynka, and Assistant Director of Engineering, Joe Thielen. This episode is centered around the “PRC” family of rifle cartridges. Specifically, the topic of “which one should you choose?” The guys break the conversation down by application and share their thoughts on which they would choose in a variety of scenarios. It’s sure tough to play favorites in the PRC line, so you may feel the urge to collect them all!
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  • @joeltucker5488
    @joeltucker5488 4 місяці тому +13

    I had bought both the 300prc and the 6.5prc in anticipation of the 7. The 300 is definitely Thor's hammer! With a little weight and the right muzzle brake, the recoil is very manageable. Im currently working up a load for the Barnes 208gr LRX bullet but would love to try the 190CX. With that being said, the 6.5 is my baby. Its everything I want. In fact I will probably build a 2nd rifle in that caliber. The 147gr ELD-M has been devastating on everything Ive shot. Looking forward to a 7prc build for a friend very soon. Thank you for your continued work and development on these new cartridges and these high BC bullets. Its making long range shooting easier for the average person.

  • @jeffwilliams3436
    @jeffwilliams3436 5 місяців тому +11

    I love 300 PRC! If you don’t own a magnum 30 cal that’s the cartridge to go with!

    • @sinistersilverado965
      @sinistersilverado965 4 місяці тому +2

      yeah, I already have a 300 Weatherby, so I bought the 7mm PRC

  • @scruffyarms
    @scruffyarms 5 місяців тому +9

    I loved my 6.5 PRC, but then the 7 PRC got announced and yup re-barrel my 338 win to 7 PRC and man is that just sweet.

  • @awdam0220
    @awdam0220 5 місяців тому +13

    25 PRC as my number 1, but 338 prc is a dang close second!

    • @predatorhuntingobsession5104
      @predatorhuntingobsession5104 20 днів тому

      I’ve been saying this since I’ve gotten the .300prc. I’m hoping for a .338 prc factory offering and/or a 22 or 6 prc

    • @holl0918
      @holl0918 6 днів тому

      It's called the .338 Norma

  • @offroadsoda
    @offroadsoda 5 місяців тому +6

    Seth, you said it, and I agree. I "HAVE ALL THREE". working on load test/development on the 6.5 this weekend. All my PRCs have two load solutions; one for a CX and one for either the ELDX or Berger VLD.

  • @tomlongbow
    @tomlongbow 5 місяців тому +4

    I shoot a 6,5 PRC as hunting and sporting caliber in a Ruger Precision Rifle here Germany. I dont mind the weight as my hunting is from a high stand for safety reasons (angle toward the ground) only and the walk to that is seldom more than half a Kilometer. I need a minimum of 6,5 mm bullet diameter and the 6,5 PRC compliments my 6,5 Grendel. Great Podcast as always. Greetings from Germany 🍀👋🏻.

  • @garycairnes4957
    @garycairnes4957 4 місяці тому +6

    I still like 280 Ackley Improved....such low recoil and really gets out there

  • @Adamhawk1994
    @Adamhawk1994 5 місяців тому +7

    I have both 6.5 and 300 prc. I love them both, but I always seem to pick up the 6.5 for everything including elk. My max range is 600 yards personally

    • @ChronicalsofAl
      @ChronicalsofAl 5 місяців тому

      The only problem is the 6.5 PRC doesn't need to be limited to 600yds!! Heck, that's where it really starts to shine

  • @holl0918
    @holl0918 6 днів тому

    One advantage of the 7mm PRC when building custom is its shorter COAL than the 300. I built my 7PRC on a CIP length system. In a standard 3.75" max CIP magazine, the 300PRC can't quite get the 230/250A-Tips or 205gr Bulldozer boattails to the neck/shoulder junction and still mag feed. It has the throat for it, but the magazine is the limiting factor. The 7mm PRC feeds just fine from CIP-length magazines and has enough freebore to pull a 195 EOL or 190A-Tip all the way out for optimum seating for a COAL of 3.54" to the lands with the 195gr Berger. My 190 load does 2875fps from a 24" Proof CF and could definately go hotter.

  • @aion1752
    @aion1752 4 місяці тому +5

    I am looking forward to that 338 PRC!

  • @richwc1
    @richwc1 5 місяців тому +12

    I’m most impressed with the 6.5prc. I own a 6.5 and 7. The 7 would be great if it easily did what was claimed (3000fps) but I’m at 2835 with a max load of h1000 with a 175gr bullet. I’m honestly more impressed with my 280ai. 300prc I see zero advantage over a 300wm for hunting. Just my honest opinion.

    • @mattc6015
      @mattc6015 5 місяців тому +4

      I’m interested what length barrel you have on that 7prc?

    •  5 місяців тому +1

      That’s why I’m scared about getting a seven PRC. This is what I constantly hear about is the performance is not 3000 at all. I really want a seven in my arsenal and I was hoping seven PRC was gonna fit the bill. I plan on running a 20 inch or a 22 inch what barrel length are you running buddy I need to know lol.

    • @ronlowney4700
      @ronlowney4700 5 місяців тому +1

      🤠 I Feel the Same Way About the 280 AI (and 270 Winchester)! However, the 6.5 prc and 7mm prc are still very "Sensible" Cartridges! 🥳

    • @richwc1
      @richwc1 5 місяців тому +2

      22” no way I’m ever going to hit 3000fps with a 175. Not with h1000 and hornady brass that for sure.

    • @richwc1
      @richwc1 5 місяців тому

      @@mattc6015 22” seekins element.

  • @joelster2809
    @joelster2809 5 місяців тому +3

    Thanks for this Hornady Podcast. It was interesting to hear the perspectives from each of you. My cartridge proposal would be something along the lines of similar velocity to the 6.5 creedmoor in 7mm option. I have heard people doing a 7-6.5 PRC wildcat, but it would be nice to have a factory option. I also think it would appeal to those who don’t think 6.5 is enough, but also want something with a bit less recoil.

  • @stevenstembridge4864
    @stevenstembridge4864 4 місяці тому +1

    Might not be enough who agree, but for my part I would love to see the RCMs modernized and revived as part of the PRC family. But great job with what you've already done.

  • @tomasdunn4847
    @tomasdunn4847 4 місяці тому +1

    I fell in love with the .300 PRC I got two of them both with brakes the HMR is a factory muzzle break the other has. Salmon River muzzle brake. It's on a wilderness Ridge about 1.5 lb lighter than the other and my grandson loves shooting it as recoil is reduced by +90%.

  • @PTWNSLGR
    @PTWNSLGR 5 місяців тому +3

    Great video, love yalls podcasts. I guess my only question, right now Hornady has a factory hot rod in the 7RM, (that I have) with the 139 gr SST at 3240 MV, any thought to adding that weight to the 7 PRC, then that would truly cover everything from groundhogs to elephants lol in the 7 PRC. Thanks again for doing these podcasts.

  • @MrHuntermikey
    @MrHuntermikey 5 місяців тому +6

    A 338 PRC would be great.

    • @jeffwilliams3436
      @jeffwilliams3436 5 місяців тому

      That would be awesome! Might as well make it a 35 PRC for African safari game 😂

    • @drakeslocum2564
      @drakeslocum2564 4 місяці тому

      @@jeffwilliams3436 anything below 375 is illlegal for African dangerous game

  • @chadillac95
    @chadillac95 5 місяців тому +3

    If you're a one gun kinda hunter, go with the 7 PRC. You might be a little over gunned for some things and maybe a little under gunned for other things, but it'll do the job for most things. If you want 2 things, pick up the 6.5 and the 300

    • @z987k
      @z987k 5 місяців тому

      There is nothing in North America you are under gunned with a 7prc.

  • @rogercarlton4385
    @rogercarlton4385 5 місяців тому +3

    I run short barrels on 5 of my guns. Remington XP-100, in 7mm RSAUM (17.5” bbl; 162 ELDX @ 2850 fps), 30 Nosler (18.5” bbl; 210’s @ 2825 fps).
    The 7mm PRC is the one I’m likely to do next in a rifle with at least a 24”-26” bbl, or the 6.5 PRC in an XP-100 with a 17.5”-18.5” bbl
    As much as I like the 300 PRC, I’ve got a custom 300 RUM that leaves the 300 PRC in the dust, but it’s a custom chamber that basically fixes the issues with the SAAMI chamber.
    Nice podcast. Keep up the good work.
    No need to run faster powders for shorter barrels either (well documented by handgun hunters/shooters over the past decades).

  • @jameswatson4110
    @jameswatson4110 5 місяців тому +1

    I shoot the 6.5 PRC. It groups the ELDX a little better than the 147 match bullet. I hunt with the match bullet-it just works near and far. Thanks Hornady where would we be without y’all!

  • @jonathanwebb4464
    @jonathanwebb4464 4 місяці тому +2

    All the PRCs not just these three lol. I would love to see .338 PRC be the middle ground between 338 win mag and 338 Lapua. Shooting a 250 grain plus CX would be awesome.

  • @flubdreload2818
    @flubdreload2818 4 місяці тому +1

    The performance that people get out of the PRC line in short barrels is impressive as well. A 6.5 PRC in a 16.5 inch is impressive considering the less than ideal barrel length.

  • @georgebarreto6022
    @georgebarreto6022 5 місяців тому +1

    Love your podcast ❤

  • @Airohunter
    @Airohunter 5 місяців тому +1

    I have all three. 300 PRC is just magical, mine and all my buds that have one all shoot lights whether they are factory rifles or customs. The 7PRC has a ton of promise just haven’t shot it much. 300 with a brake is easy recoil but the 7 with a break is very low recoil.

  • @christopherhanes3303
    @christopherhanes3303 4 місяці тому +2

    Per the podcast request. Please neck the 6.5 down to 6mm PRC to create the ultimate Midwest coyote/deer combo. Also neck the 7 PRC down to 25 for a Western Laser Beam and up to 338 for an All Around Alaskan Cartridge (focused on 225 CX and 230 ELD-X). Also I will use this platform to continue to plead for the reintroduction and support of the RCM cartridges 😊

    • @Inveniam22
      @Inveniam22 3 місяці тому

      You don't pay attention to Hornady much if you think they're in the business of just necking down cartridges to be fast and overbore. You can find those already as well.

  • @davidlaroche8928
    @davidlaroche8928 5 місяців тому +5

    Great podcast once again. Its great to listen to other people's experiences , options and for sight . 22inch 7PRC could be the winner for me . .......
    My 25PRC is like lighting with the 134 Hornady Eldm !!!

  • @terrenceb.9860
    @terrenceb.9860 5 місяців тому +4

    Thanks guys for an excellent and entertaining discussion. One thing I would like to have heard you mention would be the optic/reticle choice on your personal rifles.

    • @offroadsoda
      @offroadsoda 5 місяців тому

      such a nuanced decision in the end. Also, what can you afford.

  • @ThatGuy-kf7fo
    @ThatGuy-kf7fo 5 місяців тому +5

    I think the 6.5 is the best all around hunting round of the three. Short action for a light rifle, least recoil, and basically 270 (or better performance. That’s a winning combo.
    I also think a 7mm on the 6.5 case would be cool. And maybe a 338 on the 300 case.

  • @vettepilot427
    @vettepilot427 4 місяці тому +2

    I'd like to suggest barrel contours and dimensions as a topic for a podcast, specifically the question of what barrel contour do you need as you move up in cartridge size? The Remington Varmint/Sendero (Proof Sendero Light) is very popular, but has a very short shank which may not be ideal for large magnum cartridges like the 300 PRC. We've seen issues in testing carbon fiber barrels with these larger and more powerful cartridges. I notice that Proof no longer offers barrels in Sendero Light contour longer than 22" for 7mm and up. What's your recommendation on barrel contours and material for larger, more powerful cartridges like the 300 PRC, 300 NM, etc?

  • @ajdube9967
    @ajdube9967 5 місяців тому +7

    The 6.5 is amazing for hunting deer in the open spaces of Montana!

  • @krodkrod8132
    @krodkrod8132 4 місяці тому +1

    I have a savage tactical desert in 6.5 prc and i love it. I kind of want to build a 300 prc now.

  • @michaelsurratt9593
    @michaelsurratt9593 5 місяців тому +3

    Are there more PRC calibers coming? .338 PRC? A modern .338 would be great.

  • @davecollins6113
    @davecollins6113 5 місяців тому +1

    For my purposes here in Alberta, and I've hunted BC a lot, the 6.5 would do fine, a 7 would too, but, a either would have to be in a carefully built gun with the right stock on it. The stock makes more difference than most people would ever believe, design and material it is built in matter. Can't have suppressors here, no use for a brake, so it'll be a 24" bbl either way. I'm not running out and buying a PRC, don't need it, I have used 7-08 on everything up to moose, had 7RM's and a 338WM and 450-400NE, still have a 300H&H too. The go to now is a 30R Blaser, will test out a 6.5CM,, the 7-08 and the 300 are there, if I want to use them

  • @scottevans9155
    @scottevans9155 5 місяців тому

    Another excellent podcast, thanks fellas. 🇳🇿🇳🇿🇳🇿

    • @scottevans9155
      @scottevans9155 5 місяців тому

      Would love to see a 25 prc

    • @hornady
      @hornady  5 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for listening

  • @42N8_1
    @42N8_1 5 місяців тому +3

    I am a big fan of the 300PRC.

  • @davidt7838
    @davidt7838 5 місяців тому +2

    I already had a 6.5 creedmore and a 300 win mag. Didn't own anything in 7mm so the choice was easy. 7PRC. It is likely I will own all three eventually.

  • @seetownwv
    @seetownwv 5 місяців тому +1

    I love my 300, put a can on it and it is a baby. Just purchased a 7 interested to see how it does always been a 30 cal guy. I shot the 7 through Chrono an at 6.5lbs its got plenty of recoil. Was disappointed in 2810 when its suppose to be 2975, 22 inch barrel so don't think it would have lost that much in 2 inches.

  • @N.C.SSN-777
    @N.C.SSN-777 5 місяців тому

    ❤my 300prc..... VERY VERY accurate when paired with 5-50 '56mm or 4 - 40 thermal ......
    ..!

  • @user-yz2tv3yc8f
    @user-yz2tv3yc8f 5 місяців тому +2

    My vote for the next PRC would be .338. Please!!!!! And I wont ask for anything for Christmas for the next decade…

  • @masone4589
    @masone4589 5 місяців тому +4

    I bought a Fierce 7PRC and it’s shot great so far. Haven’t shot it past 300 yards yet though. I’m starting to have some serious questions about Horbady’s stated box velocities. There are a lot of people out there showing 150-200 fps lower than what Hornady says it should be shooting. Very concerning

    • @ChronicalsofAl
      @ChronicalsofAl 5 місяців тому

      Barrel length

    • @masone4589
      @masone4589 5 місяців тому

      @@ChronicalsofAlI watched a guy shooting 180 ELDM out of a 22” barrel and getting like 2775-2780 fps. 22” should knock off a little but not that much obviously.

    • @ChronicalsofAl
      @ChronicalsofAl 5 місяців тому

      @@masone4589 I don't know man, as I haven't dealt with any of the PRC 's. The only one that has any appeal for me is the 6.5 . I am concerned about the fact that you have a company that has developed the cartridge, who can squash it's competitors (6.8 western), who makes the ammo, who makes (and pretty much controls) reloading equipment and has as many govt. connections as Hornady

    • @gabenelson8508
      @gabenelson8508 Місяць тому

      The federal ammo does produce very near 3k.
      You can also load your own and reach 3k.

  • @davidmercer1246
    @davidmercer1246 3 місяці тому

    Something along the lines of a 22PRC would be great fun.
    Cant wait for my 7PRC to show up at my local gun store.

  • @MrCclimeGo
    @MrCclimeGo 2 місяці тому +1

    Great discussion 👍 I just bought a 6.5 prc barreled action for a precision build. I did about 3 months of arduous due diligence for making the decision. I have a 300 WinMag, 7mm Rem Mag as my "big guns". With the choices in factory loads and especially with developing hand loads, both of them will do anything I want to do, at the cost of recoil. I want to get into the LR target arena and I just didn't feel like my 25.06, 22.250, 7.08, or.308 win were capable of being competitive even with load development. There's just not a selection of really high performance projectiles and with the case limitations, I figured I should get something made for the task. Would it be fun to have a 25cal prc? Sure, but it's basically a 6mm and we've already been there and done that. A 270 also occupies an in between area plus with the 270wsm, what you don't like about the regular 270 can be achieved. It would be cool if better projectiles for some of the existing calibers were developed, that would be fun, but I get it ; for the cost of R&D you probably would never make the money back or they would be cost prohibitive for the consumer. I think you guys did exactly what should have been done, by taking 3 popular and common rounds and working them to the endth degree 🤙 Thanks again!

  • @wyattgraham5711
    @wyattgraham5711 5 місяців тому +5

    225 eldm out of my 300 prc going 3000 fps(26” barrel loaded with max load of lrt off hodgdon 1-8” twist) flatter than the 180 eldm going the same muzzle velocity. Checked with 4dof. With a 7 prc you just need a 30” barrel to hit box posted velocities. It’s sad to see that the 7 prc doesn’t hit advertised velocities. Will you add the 6.8 western, you mentioned the .277 prc as an option, it would just be a remake of it.

    • @seetownwv
      @seetownwv 5 місяців тому +2

      I shot the 180 ELDM factory 2975 22 inch barrel, 2810 avg. Pretty sad. Im gonna handload so think it will do better. I love my 300 but with 26 inch barrel an suppressor its a field gun lol

    • @JosephWilhoit-ef6nl
      @JosephWilhoit-ef6nl 4 місяці тому

      The 7mm prc will hit 3,000 have already got 3,020 with 170 terminal ascent Hornady ammo u gonna get 2,850 I do not like Hornady ammo or bullets

    • @seetownwv
      @seetownwv 4 місяці тому +1

      @JosephWilhoit-ef6nl I figured Federal would do better as it most likely is loaded with RL26 when I get gun back I'm going go try a box. The terminal ascent remind me of the old Interbond bullets which I loved but better BC. I'm still gonna hand load but wanna try out of curiosity. It'll be 18 inches but I bet it'll do better than Hornady with 22 inches

  • @Derekj-gv2cp
    @Derekj-gv2cp 5 місяців тому +3

    I'd like to see a 33 prc.

  • @jwoak0913
    @jwoak0913 4 місяці тому +3

    When are you guys coming out with the 45-70 PRC 👍🏽

    • @glennllewellyn7369
      @glennllewellyn7369 4 місяці тому

      Hah!
      Love it.
      Surely for rats-in-the-shed scenarios only.
      Australia!

  • @coyotiess
    @coyotiess 4 місяці тому +1

    Great video!

    • @hornady
      @hornady  4 місяці тому

      Glad you enjoyed it

  • @toddleff1776
    @toddleff1776 5 місяців тому +3

    7 PRC that will run in a Short Action AICS mag.

  • @mikeberger6664
    @mikeberger6664 5 місяців тому +1

    For me the 300 PRC, as I have all reloading equipment…
    But a 7 would also be nice… maybe when one of those barrels are through.

  • @mikegoodwin2386
    @mikegoodwin2386 5 місяців тому +1

    I went with the 7mm PRC with a 22" barrel. I chose it for versatility. From pronghorn to brown bear, I think this could do it. Are there better choices at those extremes? Sure. But is there a better choice for doing ALL of that? I doubt it. I haven't shot anything but paper with it yet. Shot some of the Precision Hunter but I have a box of Outfitter I want to try.
    I would love to see a 25 PRC! (In a true short action, rather than the almost-short action of the 6.5") Something like that might put my 25-06 out to pasture. And maybe I'll get a 375 Ruger for that brown bear.

  • @weekendwarrior2959
    @weekendwarrior2959 5 місяців тому +2

    Maybe its time for some bookends for the lineup. Id like to see a .50 PRC and a .22 PRFC ( precision rim-fire cartridge) 😂

  • @austinyager6052
    @austinyager6052 5 місяців тому +4

    I think a 25 PRC would be a hit.

    • @michaelbogaski83
      @michaelbogaski83 4 місяці тому +1

      I want a 25-06 but im waiting hoping they make a 25 prc that shoots the heavier 25 caliber bullets

  • @alexmills1329
    @alexmills1329 5 місяців тому +1

    A new PRC in the new army caliber would seem like a good idea, but I think the 338 market deserves love to.

    • @aaronpudlicki7418
      @aaronpudlicki7418 5 місяців тому

      It already exists, 338 Norma

    • @alexmills1329
      @alexmills1329 5 місяців тому +1

      @@aaronpudlicki7418 true, for some reason I forgotten about that new machine gun round lol

  • @roadrunner681
    @roadrunner681 5 місяців тому

    I dont need either for hunting, the 450 bush is ideal in my state but i think the 300 prc is my favorite, i have a couple places you can go out to a mile and that ammo is not that expensive for how large a round it is

  • @TheGunNerd
    @TheGunNerd 5 місяців тому +4

    I know 300 prc is 300 win mag but modernized. Now modernize 50 bmg

  • @RockyMountainThugs
    @RockyMountainThugs 9 днів тому +1

    I want a to buy a 300 prc I’ve been shooting a 7mm mag for the last 5 years and have no complaints but I would love to get a 30. Cal magnum. I hunt Alberta mule deer and Elk in the prairies and some of the mule bucks are easily 300+ pounds and it’s not uncommon to shoot 500+ yards so to have that extra payload of a 30. Sounds really nice

  • @aaronpudlicki7418
    @aaronpudlicki7418 5 місяців тому +1

    Mind blowing how many of yall are pleading for cartridges that already exist.

  • @AaronBleess-yz4cw
    @AaronBleess-yz4cw 3 місяці тому +1

    I’m looking forward to a VT loading for the PRC’s

  • @toddparsons2980
    @toddparsons2980 4 місяці тому +1

    Short action, least recoil, I live in TX, the 6.5 PRC does everything I need and then some.

  • @chrisrojo189
    @chrisrojo189 4 місяці тому +1

    Very curious to hear your guys’ perspective on the future of the WSM family now that the PRC line up is getting so much attention. Have your lab guys ever tried lengthening the throat on the 300WSM to get those longer bullets to work in it? Any chance it could give the benefits of both the 6.5 and 300 in one cartridge?

  • @mr.mr.3301
    @mr.mr.3301 5 місяців тому +4

    I think Judd and I have the same issue. See if you can get a 7 mm with the recoil and ballistic similar to a 280 Ackley improved. Maybe use the 65 PRC case

    • @Royisme
      @Royisme 5 місяців тому

      This is what I want, followed by something that can fit between the 338 win and 338 lapua with a 300 grain bullet.

    • @ronlowney4700
      @ronlowney4700 5 місяців тому

      🤔 It is worth considering! 😎

    • @ronlowney4700
      @ronlowney4700 5 місяців тому +1

      🤔 Maybe, Horneday Can Eventually Support the 7mm PRCW for Target Shooting and the 7mm prc for Hunting? 🤷‍♂️

    • @z987k
      @z987k 5 місяців тому +2

      Why not just go buy a 280ai? Or get a barrel spun up?

    • @ronlowney4700
      @ronlowney4700 5 місяців тому

      🤠 That is the Next Cartridge on My Purchase List, Actually! 🥳

  • @Lee-jn8zu
    @Lee-jn8zu 4 місяці тому

    Have a 7 prc, it is definately the sweet spot. Do it all, everyday, all day long. Love it

  • @pissonchevy1
    @pissonchevy1 5 місяців тому

    It’d be cool if they came out with a 338 PRS or something cause I love the 33 nosler and even love the 338 federal on the low end

  • @Freedompatrol
    @Freedompatrol 3 місяці тому +1

    Thors hammer is the 270 win with a long throat will heavy bullets. That one is already taken boys.

  • @Bushmasterpilot
    @Bushmasterpilot 5 місяців тому +1

    Just select ALL of them, like I did!😁 but if only 1, its the 7PRC all day!

  • @mikebowerman5078
    @mikebowerman5078 5 місяців тому +1

    25 PRC with an C.O.A.L of 2.800. So it will fit in a short action. With a 120 grain ELD X.

  • @zachperrego2362
    @zachperrego2362 4 місяці тому +1

    I absolutely love my 6mm PRC and I would love it if Hornady adopted it and started making some factory ammo for it. In my experience, it can do everything that a 6.5 PRC can do within about 1000 yards (at my high mountain altitude anyway) but has much less recoil which allows for better follow ups and shoots extremely flat which helps with any ranging errors. I've taken coyote and elk with it, nothing has required more than 1 shot with a 110 grain Hornady Atip traveling at 3340 fps or a Cutting Edge MTH 88gr at 3630.

    • @lanejohnson7656
      @lanejohnson7656 3 місяці тому

      You would love if Hornady adopted the 6 PRC? Who do you think developed it?? Lol

    • @zachperrego2362
      @zachperrego2362 3 місяці тому

      @lanejohnson7656 They designed the case yea, but 6mmPRC is still a wildcat and I'd love to see factory ammo for it

    • @lanejohnson7656
      @lanejohnson7656 3 місяці тому +1

      @@zachperrego2362 Even IF they did it would likely be so scarce it would be unattainable.. I don’t know how many comments on 6 ARC I’ve read of people not even being able to get reloading components for a long time. From my understanding not the first time Hornady developed cartridges and the end user got hosed on having an unusable firearm..

    • @zachperrego2362
      @zachperrego2362 3 місяці тому +1

      @lanejohnson7656 Oh I totally agree, but they asked in the video what cartridge I'd like to see support for so I answered, but I know it's most likely not gonna happen

  • @jeffkocsis8250
    @jeffkocsis8250 5 місяців тому +2

    Would love a .277 prc. I've been a huge .270 fan for years.

    • @aaronpudlicki7418
      @aaronpudlicki7418 5 місяців тому +6

      It’s literally a 6.8 western

    • @jeffkocsis8250
      @jeffkocsis8250 5 місяців тому +1

      @aaronpudlicki7418 Yes it is and that's why they will never do it.

  • @FightingTexasAggie
    @FightingTexasAggie 5 місяців тому +1

    Id love to see another short action, preferably a 7. However a 338 in a short action could also be very interesting.

    • @z987k
      @z987k 5 місяців тому +1

      So another 338rcm?

    • @FightingTexasAggie
      @FightingTexasAggie 5 місяців тому

      @z987k I'd never heard of 338rcm, so I appreciate the info.
      I think hornady making a similar cartridge designed around high BC bullets would be an awesome do all hunting rifle.

    • @z987k
      @z987k 5 місяців тому +1

      That's more or less impossible in a 338 caliber. High BC 338 bullets start up at 275-300gr. In order to push those, you need a long action or more. Even a 33 nosler doesn't really have the capacity to shoot high bc 338s. You need to step up to the 100gr+ case capacity to shoot those. So... 338lapua, 338 norma.
      The 338rcm was a ballistic twin to the 338-06. You can still find rifles chambered in both, but 338rcm brass more or less doesn't exist and factory ammo is long gone. It's pretty easy to make 338-06 brass. But high BC bullets it cannot push.

  • @albertlemont5471
    @albertlemont5471 5 місяців тому +1

    I love the 6.5 PRC but struggle with the crap Hornady brass primer pockets. I have taken a break from it for awhile. Load development trying to get good velocity was killing brass in 2nd loading. If i loaded for brass life i was basically shooting my Creedmoor. Also the Hornady 140 OTM is a more accurate bullet than the eldx or m imho.

    • @MrHuntermikey
      @MrHuntermikey 4 місяці тому +1

      Try Lapua if it’s available . I’m on my fourth 6.5 PRC loading running H 1000 Fed 210 primer

  • @BrendonGS
    @BrendonGS 5 місяців тому +1

    338 prc would be a great dangerous game/guide gun cartridge

  • @bjb4493
    @bjb4493 4 місяці тому

    I love my 6.8 spc. The 120 sst absolutely SMACKs under 300 yards. However, it’d be awesome to get more distance with the same bullet diameter. The reason the Grendel and 6arc perform better at distance is that they have the long, high bc bullets. The spc came out right before that took off. So my challenge is this: a high bc 6.8 sst packed into a creedmoor case, as an option for ar10 platform as well as bolt guns. It would essentially be a 6.5 cm necked up to 6.8 but would probably punch harder for any naysayers to the 6.5 effectiveness on deer. The 6.8 western missed the mark by having a larger case diameter, so it isn’t applicable to the ar platform.

  • @readyalready4697
    @readyalready4697 5 місяців тому +1

    You guys pick some great topics. I'm stuck between 7 and 3.
    🤔

  • @davidrobinson-qo7ue
    @davidrobinson-qo7ue 4 місяці тому +1

    I have a question about powder selection for the 6.5 PRC to keep the velocity up in the 2900 to 3000 fps range. What is your choice H1000 or RL26?

    • @keithlabrozzi7176
      @keithlabrozzi7176 4 місяці тому

      My Ruger likes LRT 140gr. My son's CZ likes Magpro 147gr.

  • @matthewhernandez9133
    @matthewhernandez9133 5 місяців тому

    Would definitely love to see a .277 PRC, I’m currently debating on what to do. Get 7mm PRC and keep my .270 or get a 6.5prc but get rid of my .270.

    • @z987k
      @z987k 5 місяців тому +2

      The 6.5prc and 270win are ballistic twins. If your 270 can't shoot the heavies, maybe look at one of the new browning or winchester fast twist 270wins.

    • @ralphyoung9296
      @ralphyoung9296 Місяць тому

      ​@z987k .. we all know that Hornady is the bully of the bullet industry.. if they didn't invent the 6.8 western, they said they will not support the caliber.. you know what this means. If you don't buy our PRC's we will take our ball and go home... if you don't play by our rules and do what we say, we'll extort you. Now take that bloody nose home.

  • @WalterBiernot
    @WalterBiernot 5 місяців тому +1

    the best catrige ever made for everything is the 8x57

  • @michaellaubhan4063
    @michaellaubhan4063 4 місяці тому +2

    300= one ton truck, 7=3/4 ton truck, and the 6.5= a 1/2 ton truck.

    • @nt3523
      @nt3523 4 місяці тому

      From china. The velocities suck.

  • @jeffreywilson690
    @jeffreywilson690 5 місяців тому +3

    Make a 6mm prc 105 grain @ 3300😊

  • @z987k
    @z987k 5 місяців тому

    When you're going over numbers on the paper, a number you should include are hit probability statistics with each. Would probably be more useful than the retained velocity at 800yards where 1% of hunters are capable of shooting an animal at that range.

  • @scottmorita8638
    @scottmorita8638 4 місяці тому

    A little off topic, but what muzzle brakes are you using on your rifles?

  • @woodysworld7339
    @woodysworld7339 5 місяців тому +3

    338 PRC then, 375 PRC

  • @trentsnaza3372
    @trentsnaza3372 5 місяців тому +3

    NA!! No thanks, I'll stick with 375 H and H parent case cartridges and my tried and true 30/06 😂😂

  • @TheIamfrustrated
    @TheIamfrustrated 5 місяців тому

    I’ve been looking long and hard at a 300 PRC to replace my 338 Lapua, it’s just hard to source a turn key rifle as I am left handed.

    • @RebaDerChi
      @RebaDerChi 5 місяців тому +1

      Same problem here. It’s either Savage 110 Elite Precision or AI AXMC for 10k 😂

    • @TheIamfrustrated
      @TheIamfrustrated 5 місяців тому +1

      @@RebaDerChi or a custom build but then I’d imagine you’re into it for the cost of the AI anyways.

  • @ronlowney4700
    @ronlowney4700 5 місяців тому +1

    😏 I Love Your CX Bullets, But I Have To Use Up All My GMX Bullets First! 🤪 And, That May Take A While! 🤣

  • @DrewEdwardBacklas
    @DrewEdwardBacklas 4 місяці тому

    I stopped by your booth at the dsc show and had a question and the gentleman at the booth didn’t have an answer for me. I’m curious what the minimum expansion threshold velocity is on the bore driver eldx projectile.

  • @greg6264
    @greg6264 4 місяці тому

    A lot of folks are voting for a 338 PRC. I'd say you go smaller, not larger. Several have voted for a 25, but that's nearly a 6.5 and we've got that already. My thoughts would be a 22 PRC, but I have no idea how that would compare to the 22 ARC.
    I picked up a 7 PRC, 22" barrel, and can't wait to get to the range. What suppressor should I get for it? My priorities are light weight and compact size. And, I'd hope to have dB of less than 140 for the shooter.

  • @MrJtin69
    @MrJtin69 5 місяців тому +1

    I took a mighty fine elk with the 7mm prc at exactly 507 yards ran ten yards and fell

  • @bradleyseal3844
    @bradleyseal3844 4 місяці тому +1

    What about any thing with a 277 prc cartridge

  • @eggbert191
    @eggbert191 5 місяців тому

    Would love to see you come out with a tipped bonded bullet

  • @keithprinn720
    @keithprinn720 5 місяців тому +2

    most dont use a ten pound rifle when hunting that is heavy so more recoil for most. a decent length with a can yes. half mile is 880 yards not 800. as for tge 300 PRC who needs it or wants the recoil? very very few for most the 6.5 is plenty who gets an elk tag? or needs something for bears or moose/bison? few need more than the 6.5 with that CX bullet. if you have a 7 rem mag maybe tune that. for many a 6.5 with a smaller calibre for varmints and similar will cover most things they do and need. the 6 creed or an old 243 with classic stock or a 222 even.

    • @jeffwilliams3436
      @jeffwilliams3436 5 місяців тому

      Recoil for 300 PRC isn’t that bad. But with a brake it knocks it down to 6.5 creedmoor levels. If my 120 pound wife can get sub 3/4” groups with it with no brake…a grown ass man should be able to do the same.

  • @ChronicalsofAl
    @ChronicalsofAl 5 місяців тому +1

    Cool hat on Judd

  • @Rusty-Brown_
    @Rusty-Brown_ 5 місяців тому +2

    .277 ***P R C********----270***PRC******6.8 WESTERN---IS GOOD--NEED MORE RIFLES

  • @williamsweet7511
    @williamsweet7511 3 місяці тому

    What is the difference between ELD-m and V Match ammo, maybe you can deep dive into the different match grade ammo you sell. Also curious what is the difference between say, Hornady match brass, Lapua, Petersen and Alpha brass. How does Hornady brass compare to those other brands of brass.

  • @michaelkaylor6770
    @michaelkaylor6770 5 місяців тому +1

    375 PRC…. Hahahahahahaha! Just kidding, I actually listened to all the episodes!

  • @TMFShooting
    @TMFShooting 5 місяців тому +1

    7 PRC 💯Great Video 💥💥💥💥💥💥💥

  • @danielstclair8402
    @danielstclair8402 Місяць тому

    You forgot to talk about the wind drift, drop velocity and energy of the 300 PRC. You did for the other two.

  • @richardfitzsimmons5244
    @richardfitzsimmons5244 5 місяців тому

    Yeah Im on the same page with recoil. Between the 6.5 and the 7 would be My druthers. Probably the 6.5. Being that I'm getting older.

  • @glockparaastra
    @glockparaastra 4 місяці тому

    I'm waiting for 7PRC options in my country (come on Howa!!). Still not available. 300PRC is awesome if you really wanna hit hard at long range like for hunting, but if you're just gonna ring steel and hunt at ethical ranges, the 7 PRC makes more sense to me.

  • @gunningforsurvival6568
    @gunningforsurvival6568 5 місяців тому +1

    I’d really like to see a modernized 300 wsm short action 30 cal mag

    • @jrhunt414
      @jrhunt414 5 місяців тому

      300 RCM. It flopped.

  • @jetthreat5000
    @jetthreat5000 5 місяців тому

    Why have yall continued to keep the .532” measurement at the Webb/.200” of the case? This has cause clickers since the 6.5 PRC and had cause many to get modified reamers with the Webb being .535”.

  • @rustyshackleford2723
    @rustyshackleford2723 2 місяці тому +1

    50 prc would be great 😊

  • @Westerner_
    @Westerner_ 5 місяців тому +7

    I really think if you guys re launched 338 rcm as 338 prc it would take off today. Everyone wants a short suppressed rifle that’s plenty of medicine for elk out to 500 yards

    • @sunlifekm41
      @sunlifekm41 5 місяців тому

      Add 300 RCM to that menu too. Designed for shorter barrels which would go great with a suppressor. Both RCMs are interesting cartridges that don’t get the love they deserve.

    • @Westerner_
      @Westerner_ 5 місяців тому +1

      @@sunlifekm41 I agree but the problem I see with 300 rcm is it didn’t really do anything 300 wsm did. Plenty of guys out there running 18-20” wsm’d getting good numbers. Vs 338 rcm is a truly unique cartridge, there’s really no other 338 short mag that I know of. If hornady could pull off bringing both of them back I’m all for it.

    • @sunlifekm41
      @sunlifekm41 5 місяців тому

      @@Westerner_good points on overlap. I just refuse to pay the crazy 300 wsm prices. Maybe a competitor would help drive those down. On another related note. The guys on the vortex podcast were talking about a tikka with a switch barrel setup in 6.5 PRC and 338 RCM. Totally awesome.

    • @johanaxelsson8074
      @johanaxelsson8074 5 місяців тому

      338 RPM from Weatherby thou.

    • @jamesspikes
      @jamesspikes 3 місяці тому

      The 338prc is coming, but all the current prcs will take elk at 500y all day