November 9: A Day of Destiny?
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- Опубліковано 7 лис 2023
- Why is November 9th such a significant date in Germany and what does it have to do with German democracy? In this History Story we explore the questions: Why did the Nazis choose November 9th, of all days, for marches, festivities - and for their first major violent attack on Jews, known internationally as "Kristallnacht" or "The Night of Broken Glass"? How did the date come to symbolize new beginnings, and freedom? And why is November 9th a day of mourning for so many people? The date, known in Germany as “Schicksalstag” or “Day of Destiny”, has been instrumentalized to overwrite history and decide the fates of German citizens.
We talk to historian and author Wolfgang Niess, who in his book "Der 9. November - Die Deutschen und ihr Schicksalstag", explains the background and historical context of this day. Israeli filmmaker Yael Reuveny shares the feelings and associations that November 9th evokes and how Jewish people feel living in Germany. For many years, Berlin was a refuge for Israelis dissatisfied with their home country's politics. However, since the October 7th multi-front terror attacks on Israel by the militant group Hamas and the ensuing Israeli bombardment of Gaza, Germany is experiencing a wave of antisemitic crimes. Although state policy upholds the protection of Jewish life, antisemitism is nonetheless deeply rooted, and on the rise.
German democracy - a fragile achievement. It's been fought for time and again in Germany. On November 9th, we are reminded of the need to remain vigilant in its defence.
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That was the most informative 13 minutes about German history ever. Danke DW!
It is good for students when major events take place on a single date. It makes it easy to remember them historically!
Love your narration.
Thank you very much!
I was born on November the 9th in Wales U K in 1940 I remember being in the shelters. My parents sheltered us from all the horrors that were published in later years. I now live in Israel. Never Again
Thanks for sharing!
and it is not just in Germany that democracy needs to be defended...
it is everywhere.
an international defence of democracy day?
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Germany history is much more than those 10 years, they should move on and celebrate their beautiful history and culture
Thank you for your comment. While you are right that Nazi rule did not last long compared to German history in general, the atrocieties committed were so large that they still revebrate today. "Moving on" is therefore only possible through remembrance.
Edit: typo
Well, it has. A visit to West Germany in the 1970s and 80s would have seen British and American rock and pop acts entertaining the young denim-clad German youth. No doubt the Stones and Pink Floyd toured West Germany back then. Lead singer Mick Jagger’s father I think was in the first wave of British troops to hit the Normandy beaches on D-day, 6th June 1944, and was injured.
And one of the Pink Floyd band members’ father was killed at Salerno when he was just a baby. Sure, the Beatles played Hamburg in 1961-2, as a resident club band. There’s a story that they stopped off at the British war memorial at Arnhem at that time, in Holland, where a large British military operation came a cropper in September of 1944. The band was on its way to or returning from Hamburg. A lot of just moving on at that time, before the internet and tiny, tyrannical screens in the palm of the hand telescoped the grim visuals of war, touched up in colour now, to make it all appear as if it were yesterday. The unfortunate result of WW2 in the palm of your hand, of the Nazis in colour, is that people forget those easy, breezier days of the 1960s, 70s, and 80s. There were in-depth documentaries on television back then, notably the landmark tv series The World At War - and is still the greatest documentary ever made in my opinion (even though it could never be as comprehensive as a book). And people did increasingly both in Britain and Germany begin to question the war. And Nazi war criminals were being hunted down forty and fifty and sixty years ago. But it seems strange how digitised, miniaturised technology and the mass of stuff on it to do with WW2 can either lead to a dangerous and fanciful obsession with the Nazis on their rise to power, aided by colour, or that a teenager today can type in two seconds into his phone “Nazi WW2” and then up pops the colour visuals of Wehrmacht troops marching very martially indeed, and said teenager then shoves said phone into the face of a German exchange student, say, and shouts “Look at your county! Look at what became of you!” As if it was all just earlier in the week!!
Back in 1973, you could not shove a heavy cathode ray tube TV set like that into another person’s face whom you wanted to hurt. The only TV in the house would have had the family watching, and war veteran father counselling his teenage son about the fact that there the Germans were (are) a good people, who perhaps should have known better but were led up the garden path by a significant number of Nazis.
The 1966 World Cup Final staged at Wembley, London between West Germany and England I think was proof that no hard feelings remained: the anthems and German players were all very kindly treated and entertained. When Merkel was Chancellor, I bet not many young people outside Germany could have named a prior Chancellor anytime after 1945. We live in the hyper-present and it’s good to study the 1950s, 60s, 70s, 80s: a very interesting time as it was the Cold War. Also, when the Soviets blockaded West Berlin during the harsh winter of 1947, the great Berlin Airlift by American DC-3s, and by perhaps the British and French too, kept Berliners fed and warm. That action along with the Marshall Aid plan did encourage Germans all over West Germany to know that they were disdained. And knowing that, many let their hair down and lived, enjoyably.
My big gripe now is that in our digital age, the airwaves are dominated by misery. As if we all ought to be guilty or apologetic. What is more important is acknowledgment of the truth of the past. In the old analogue age, light entertainment dominated the airwaves. I wish it still did.
@@DWHistoryandCulture yes, they still reverberate today. I don’t know how you cannot mention the events of Oct 7th in southern Israel: a Kristallnacht moment for Jewish people around the world in our visual, imagery-laden world today.
Well, you can celebrate the good and still acknowledge and learn from the bad, can't you?
We all should study history more, not less. Not to beat ourselves up, but to always keep in mind, just how bad things can get very, very quickly, if good people don't speak up and defend freedom and democracy.
True, centuries of culture that most have overlooked because of more current events.
All history must be passed on and not modified to fit any point of view or narrative.
When I was in school they barely taught us anything.
Remember!
Remember !!
The ninth of November !!!
Democracy or dictatorship? If you still can choose, like vote, you are in democracy already. People can’t vote in China 🇨🇳, North Korea 🇰🇵, Cuba 🇨🇺, Gaza. Do you want your children to live there? Freedom is not free, no?
Well, Hitler wasn't voted to become a dictator. He made himself dictator right after been voted as Chancelor. By blackmailing the parliament to give his party all the power.
It's frightening how nowadays, people all over the world are once more wishing the worst on the Jewish people - even here in the comments section!!!
I stand with Israel ✡
None of you (Israel /Palestinians) deserved to live in the holi land …Israel killed & is thirsty for more land …Hamas also killed & spread terror ….
None of this groups have a moral ground ! .
We taught you then....we'll teach you again zionist.
People only see Hitler’s atrocities no doubt it was, but it was one individuals and his groups not normal average Germans who suffered equally and what about English and their numerous cruelties in so called their colonies, gone for trade then want to take over ,horrific massacres, families losing everything for no fault of theirs,what got done in partition and looting of India from its vast treasures to other nations also.
Thank you for your comment. This is a video about Nazi Germany's treatment of Jews. DW has also covered colonialism and the partition of India in different on this channel and on DW Documentary.
8, November 1989 may birthday 🎉day before Berlin wall, what symbolic day 🙏 ,thanks dw for details
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We are in the late stages of social antisemitism in many countries. The following progression would be authoritarian or political antisemitism that transitions from authoritarian to totalitarian when the most extreme voices rise to the top. The issue I see is that this fascism is not a black and white issue in places like America, which to some degree anchors it’s forward momentum. While also providing cover so that the masses can not see or choose to not see the current and growing problem. In places like Germany I fear it would progress much more quickly, due to ethnic origins and a claim to the land Americans don’t have. America will be a melting pot Christian nationalist fascism that allows for the former tokens to be elevated to privilege on the understanding of common tropes. People like Candace Owens are as dangerous or more than Trump. Not to negate the inherent danger of another Trump admin. We are much closer than many understand, the next ten years won’t be fun.
This happened almost 100 years ago it’s time to move on
Thanks for commenting. 100 years is not a long time, and the effects of the events are still felt today. So moving on is not really an option.
12:37 Sums up the video
Thanks for commenting. At 12:37 starts indeed the conclusion of the video. So, thanks for pointing that out again.
Rip dad if still alive today would be 82…I knew about the fall of the Berlin Wall since I was born in 1989 and my father’s birthday was November 9 th I always thought that was cool.. I had no idea about the nazi pogrom and beer hall push remberernce on nov 9 or the fall of the German empire und der Kaiser on nov 9th very interesting date for both good and bad, the best of humanity and also the worst of humanity such a complex relationship like Mein Vater lol 🎉❤
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If you could blame someone for all the oppression in the world. How far would you go to defeat them?
Germans are very efficient, so they found out
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119 or 911
Celebrates Abaddon the destroyers day. Not a day of destiny but a day and time for destruction.
So 9/11?
11/9
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DBG Neunkirchen lässt grüßen
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Amazed me that Israel didn’t learn anything from its history…
They did learn. They learned from their history that when Jews suffer and are slaughtered much of the world is indifferent, and so they learned that they must do what they need to do to - even in the face of hysterical condemnation by people who turn a blind eye to the threats and atrocities committed against them - to protect the safety of their people and protect their country - their one and only refuge - from the prejudice and bigotry of a hostile world, which they have long had to endure.
@@chrstopherblighton-sande2981we will teach you again
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@@chrstopherblighton-sande2981 exactly …! ..remember the Warsaw uprising? They were considered terrorist by the Nazis ..because Jews were killed .& force to lived in ghettos under human living conditions ..
…get it ? ..the narrative is the same w Palestine …75 year of the same
@@chrstopherblighton-sande2981if europe stop oppressing jews, the country of israel wouldnt even need to exist. its all failure of europe society.
Germany has failed history . Its back to 1938
Free Palestine 🇯🇴
Free Palestine 🇵🇸.
Pray for Palestine🇵🇸.
Stand with Palestine🇵🇸.
Support Palestine🇵🇸.
Allah bless Palestine🇵🇸.
Love Palestine🇵🇸❤️🩹.
Free from Hamas and Antisemitism.
Free Palestine from Hamas
free Humanity from religious Fanatics & their drive to abuse believes for Atrocitys 🖖
This is not your moment. This day is about the Jews in Germany who were persecuted and killed.
@@brazendesigns remember the Warsaw ghetto uprising by the Jews ? they fought so well against the Nazi …for better living conditions & stop killing them …the Nazis considered them terrorist.