Ejections 030-32 - Angel Hernandez Ejects Trio of Royals (Cal Eldred, Mike Matheny & Brady Singer)
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- HP Umpire Angel Hernandez ejected Royals pitching coach Cal Eldred, manager Mike Matheny, and pitcher Brady Singer after a balk call in the top of the 6th inning against Cleveland. Report: www.closecalls...
The top of the 6th in Kansas City featured a series of walks, hit-by-pitch call that was upheld via Replay Review, 2-RBI double, and RBI groundout that turned a 4-0 Kansas City lead into a 4-3 lead, all of which boiled over following the balk call, which, in a vacuum, would be a fairly benign (and correct) ruling, but, given the context of this game, proved controversial. The Indians ultimately won the contest, 5-4.
Teachable (example of a rule [in this case, a balk]): Singer's movements out of Set Position prior to attempting his pickoff of CLE baserunner R2 Rosario constitute a balk pursuant to Official Baseball Rule 6.02(a): "It is a balk when-The pitcher, while touching his plate, makes any motion naturally associated with his pitch and fails to make such delivery."
Your take on the commentators is way off. At 0:21, they were saying 'nope' to hitting his JERSEY.
I don't see why the catcher didn't appeal the swing to the 3rd base ump. Looks like he went around enough to be strike 3
only possible contact was with his hand
This guy sounds like he is pro ump
@@paulkreutzer4385 That’s what he wants you to think.
That’s what I’m saying yo
They're saying if it hits the bat it's an out because there were two strikes and the catcher held on to the ball, so it's a foul tip caught, strike 3.
Yes.
This guy is clueless
@@ptccombatfitness6726 Yes
@Daniel Deering Wait.....are you talking about this comment or the guy who made the video?
The guy in the video is addressing the fact that the commentators say it hit nothing when that benefits their team but then say it hit the bat when they realize it further benefits their team
Your bias towards the umps is thick. The announcers said its didn't hit jersey. Then they said it may have hit the bat. They weren't looking at the hands, though they should have.
"Call stands" doesn't uphold the call. It simply says video replay couldn't see anything to uphold or overturn the call.
I notice you chose not to give an opinion on whether the ball hit anything. What could it have hit and if it did what is the result? I believe the batter did not offer an attempt to hit the ball and Angel believed the ball hit a finger.
Announcers that i know always say "put it behind you". You forget announcers are intentionally biased. You, however, have no reason to be biased.
I like your channel and your analysis. I don't like that your personal opinion affects your take on situations.
Well said
@Jack Tower I see now that Angel H. gestured that the ball hit the batters jersey.
But, after video review it is clear the ball did not hit the players jersey.
Tell me, if the call is that the ball hit the batters jersey, but the video replay shows that the players finger might have been hit. Can they confirm the player was hit if the ball hit the batter but not on the jersey?
I think we can confirm the ball did not hit the jersey. I think the ball clipped the nob of the bat. If the voice on the video approaches this without bias, he would see it the same way.
It is the hbp that starts this spiral into chaos. Fans can see the replay on TVs in the stadium. Their frustration is valid.
There needs to be a mic on the umps so they can communicate exactly what the call is, what video replay decides, and the reason for the final action taken.
@Jack Tower Thank you for your detailed response.
@@ccmalone A hbp was called. Whether it hit his fingers or his jersey is irrelevant. Either way, it is a HBP.
If there's anything I've learned from the MLB, if Angel Hernandez is umpiring, there's either several missed calls, blown calls, or ejections.
And many umpires can't seem to say that he's not good.
The hbp and ball 4 to reyes were both blown
He usually favors the side of Vegas. I’ve noticed when 70-80% public money is on one side or the heavy favorite he will make shit calls to get the underdog to try to win. So all the 70-80% public bets loose.
@@CuteSealYHM I thought the pitch may have hit his fingers. Singer was all over the place, no control at all. When a catcher does not know how to frame a marginal pitch and drags it into the zone, it will be called a ball.
That’s a balk, no doubt about it. But Angel Hernandez has a knack for getting himself into these situations, too.
He did nothing wrong.
@@ccgb92 he twitched
@@emmetm717 I'm referring to Angel Hernandez lol.
Hes literally the worst umpire of all time. Doesnt matter. He shouldnt even be in the MLB.
@@HelloThere-jr6gd How dare you say that? Don't you know that every single MLB umpire is the model of probity, impartiality, and error-free play calling? According to this channel, when you put on an umpire's uniform it makes you more infallible than the pope. Based on the comments from umpires here, I get the feeling that they don't even like baseball, they just like being in charge.
Rex honestly is the best.... He had been our color commentator for a long time now.. even when the team is complete ass, Hud as always been one of the most positive guys in the booth....
While at the K in '15 I literally saw him outside of the stadium doing some sort of event and it was after the event that ended. He obviously saw me just staring at him awestruck from 30 ft away and goes " hey kid! You want to get a picture with me ? " Complimented the Escobar all-star jersey I was wearing.... best trip to a porta potty I've ever taken while tailgating.
That’s awesome!!
im a die hard royals fan. gotta admit it was a balk, but calls from angel hernanndez were legit terrible, ive never seen brady this pissed though
Watched him pitch in college a ton. He's crazy competetive. It's what makes him great.
@@SparkyGarage Brady’s a stud but off the field I bet he’s a great person but kinda like Harper is ultra competitive on the field
Tribe fan here. I agree, the entire series was a mess. Worst officiating crew I've seen in a long time.
Brady is usually so calm and collected but I don’t blame him for being heated
This balk rule needs to be gone completely!
Remember what Joe West did in 2010 when he unfairly ejected 2 White Sox players (Pitcher and Manager)!
This channel is starting to lose me. Your commentary during the video is dripping with superiority and disdain for the announcers and anyone else who doesn’t have the supreme mastery of the rule book like you. This is the MLB. Managers get angry when things don’t go their way. It’s not always logical. Sometimes coaches want to get thrown out to fire up their team. It happens. And umpires are not infallible. They make plenty of mistakes.
Wait so we compliment Rex Hudler and you're upset with us. Did you watch the full video? -tmac
@@CloseCallSports Yeah I saw that. But the overall vibe is just a little too condescending at times. Just my 2 cents. Others may feel differently. :)
You’re not the only one who feels TMac is incredibly condescending.
Angel thinks that the fans are there to see him.
I was at the game and I'll tell you that we were not
Losing teams use umpires as their excuse for bad baseball. Singer should have been pulled because he looked weak. But Matheny stuck with him and lost control. It’s why Cardinals jettisoned him. Singer is a BABY! Grow up dude.
Your criticism of the broadcasters is at best disingenuous, TMac. They say “Nope” early because they’re looking for the ball hitting the jersey, based on Hernandez’s clear sign that he deemed the ball to have grazed the jersey. The fact that they subsequently consider if it hit finger or bat is completely reasonable.
What I don’t understand is, if Hernandez thought it hit the jersey, is he not able to tell the video reviewers, “If it didn’t hit the jersey, I got the call wrong”? Unless he thought he heard something, which he at first assumed to be the jersey, but subsequent replay suggests that, if it hit anything at all, it’s either finger or glove, in which the video review should uphold the original decision.
Anyway, from watching it, I don’t see what Hernandez did wrong.
This is Angel Hernandez we are talking about here, he is never going to admit he got a call wrong. Especially the week he lost his lawsuit against MLB for racial discrimination.
@Jack Tower actually they do, they have to answer reporters questions after the game, usually the crew chief or senior ump, which would be Angel.
Confirmed Rex Hudler is a class act & has a great perspective on life.
Trust me we miss him along with his play by play buddy Steve Psysioc here in so-cal. They made Angel games fun.
I’m still confused on how angel Hernandez still has a job lol
Same!!
He called the MLB racist so now they literally can't for fear of a race retaliation suitm
@@macmac3374 I know he did but the reason he never umps the post season is because he is a garbage ump
@@macmac3374 A judge dismissed his lawsuit on Mar 31 and ruled in favor of MLB. So fear of discrimination lawsuits shouldn't be an excuse to continue allowing him to ump.
@@Michael_W007 oh I didn't know he actually did it. I heard he threatened it. If I did my job as bad as he does, people would die.
When Angel Hernandez is on the field it is no longer about who wins the game it's all about which team has the most ejections lol
How do you not know who Salvador Perez is 🤣 don’t just call him “this catcher”
@Jack Tower ? He’s the best catcher in the league and there’s not even a close second
@Jack Tower 🤣🤣🤣 probably the best besides Molina and who’s your team ?
@@stammeh22 what are you talking about? lmao
@@pxxney2444 are you incapable of reading? 6x all star, 5x gold glove award winner, 3x silver slugger, all MLB first team. He’s the best catcher in the league by a mile
@Jack Tower holy shit you just said Salvador Perez the 5x gold glove winner is a bad catcher😹 he must not know what he’s doing😹
Doesn't matter how bad the frame job was Angel wasn't calling obvious strikes.
Framing is the art of making a marginal pitch look like a strike. Dragging a pitch into the zone IS NOT framing. This catcher cost the pitcher the strike.
The balk call was absolutely the right call, and you assessment at the end is spot on, there is absolutely ZERO consistency across MLB umpires on what is called and isn’t called in regards to balls. The biggest reason this one was so controversial is again exactly what you said, the events before and after, both on the fault of the royals, and what could be deemed as questionable or interesting calls by Angel. Royals played poorly from that point. MLB needs to fix some stuff, and explaining to Angel that he needs to learn to deescelate some situations might play a part.
MLB umpires aren't graded, so there's no consistency on what "the league" wants called.
I don't like this. Angel's original call was that it grazed the jersey. If replay shows this to be irrefutably false, and the replay is not conclusive that it hit anywhere else, the call should over turn because it clearly did not hit where the umpire believed it hit (not even close).
When you umpire at this level you hear things.... Angel heard what we'd say is two sounds. Ball ticking something and ball in glove. Since it's pretty clear the ball didn't hit the bat, in order for a 2nd sound to have had happened it's reasonable to decide it hit the finger. HBP. -tmac
@@CloseCallSports @CloseCallSports Absolutely understand that umpires will make calls based on what they heard. I'm just not sold in this particular case. At the 21 second mark of the clip I actually think there is a strong case to be made that the ball grazed the bat. Either way, I can also understand the video evidence to be inconclusive, but since the ball clearly didn't graze the jersey as per the original call, I don't think the call should be upheld when the video refutes the original call, and is inconclusive on if it hit another area of the body.
Very unique situation either way. Very much enjoy your channel!
He kicked the call, PERIOD. He said it hit the front of the torso and it obviously didn't.
You have call stands because you can't tell? It obviously didn't hit the torso which is what the call was, but because you can't tell if it hit something else you're going to let an incorrect call stand?
Reviews don't work that way in any sport. They are not assessing where the ball hit him and whether it differs from where the on-field umpire believed it hit him. They are only reviewing the call of a HBP itself. Deference is given to the call on the field and only clear and convincing evidence otherwise is going to overturn a call...again this is consistent across replay reviews in all sports these days. In these instances, umpires are listening for a sound. The ball makes a distinct sound when it hits the bat as it does when it hits the catcher's glove. When you hear a different sound, especially when the pitch appears to at least almost hit the batter, you're more than likely to get a HBP called. It is certainly possible to hear phantom sounds or attribute a different sound as a HBP but in this instance, the replay doesn't provide clear evidence one way or the other.
I have no idea what Angel heard but if he thought he heard a part of the batter get knicked, that's a judgement call and it isn't getting overturned with the footage they had.
It wasn't about the balk call. They were pissed still about hit batter call. Duh.
Don’t forget about the strike zone
To be honest they were still mad about the dropped fly ball he called an out the night before 😂
@@danzakuduro1942 True. However Angel Hernandez has been a problem all across baseball for a long time and needs to be held accountable for his mistakes.
@@armageddonsports6196 you spelt relieved of his duties wrong 😜
@@danzakuduro1942 lamo
Two things can be true at the same time: Angel Hernandez is a horrible umpire and that was a balk.
Worth mentioning.....they Royals had the best record in baseball and were on a 4 game slide. Sometimes as a manager you look for opportunities like this to light a fire under your team/redirect the slide they've been on.
He didn't need to find an opportunity. Every game that Angel Hernandez is working creates its own opportunities. I was a little disappointed in Matheny's response to the whole thing. MLB know he's a bad umpire, and they or the union continues to protect him. He has more over turned calls on review than any other umpire. The call was wrong and the review was wrong. The ball did not hit the batter.
Spot on about changing Balk call to something more defined. I have seen so many botched and non calls that rule. It was by definition an easy balk but I wonder if he did that same motion 3 games prior and those umps didn't call it so it was a muscle memory thing. Almost as annoying as intentional grounding in football.
But change it to what? One of the ideas of the balk rule is so baserunners aren’t caught stealing or getting back on a fake throw home, or for batters to see any pitch coming out of the pitcher’s hand in a normal motion.
My guy is tryna tell a professional catcher how to frame a baseball, know your place
Trash frame job on that pitch tho
@3:20 The reason catchers have adopted this style of framing is because it has proven to yield a higher strike call percentage. The logic is; the less time you allow the umpire to think about the pitch the higher probability they will call it a strike if the pitch is near the zone.
Right, but that catcher's framing movement is particularly extreme. It makes it look like he is trying to correct for extremely bad pitches.
Angel Hernandez ranks 2nd among the best umpires employed by MLB , all of the other 69 or so umpires employed by the league rank 1st.
1) It looks like the pitch got him in the fingers....
2) I am not an Angel fan at all. But the blame is on the pitcher for putting the ball in the batter's box instead of over the plate. The pitcher is responsible for this situation.
3) That is an OBVIOUS balk.
Sorry, but I am Angel's side with this situation.
Very fair take!
Here's another wayw to look at it. Why didn't the catcher appeal the checked swing?
It looks like Ramirez went around so even if it hit him it's still strike 3.
Dude, I generally like your content. Seeing things through the eyes of the umpires is refreshing. But... you may have jumped the shark on this one. Call stands? Watch the replay in slow motion. IT DID NOT HIT THE BATTER. You can say it may or may not have hit the bat, but it DID NOT hit the batter. Taking the side of an umpire who clearly made the wrong call does nothing for your credibility.
If it hit the bat, it's a foul tip, and he's out. Amazing that this uploader didn't know that.
"Call stands" was the ruling from New York. Was there clear & convincing visual evidence to overturn the call? Not according to New York. Was New York right? Not according to the Royals, but there may not have been sufficient evidence to overturn the HBP call or a hypothetical foul tip call, either.
@@donaldthomas7070
If anyone has eyes, the ball hit nothing
It didn't start in this game. The night before Fernandez called an out on a fly ball that wasn't caught. It froze the runner on 2nd base and prevented him scoring.
Fernandez has been at the head of the momentum changes in the last 2 Royals loses.
Hernandez.
@@TenPinTrucker yup, you're right.
That wasn’t the night Angel lost the ball in the lighted advertising boards in the outfield walls, calling out when the ball wasn’t caught-and in KC if I remember?
I dunno man. Hernandez fucked this game up badly. The terrible call on the "hit" batter messed everything up. Royals had a right to be pissed. Especially because they got screwed on back to back nights.
Verbal abuse is verbal abuse, no matter the situation.
Somebody needs to explain to these man-children that nobody GAF's about their temper tantrums. They need to act like adults and talk to people like they have some sense. None of that would fly on my field if I was umpire/crew leader.
Fine the announcers were wishy-washy on the HBP but it clearly didn’t hit the jersey which is what Hernandez claimed it did. So you hold the announcers accountable for what they say but not the Umpire?
When you umpire at this level you hear things.... Angel heard what we'd say is two sounds. Ball ticking something and ball in glove. Since it's pretty clear the ball didn't hit the bat, in order for a 2nd sound to have had happened it's reasonable to decide it hit the finger. HBP. -tmac
@@CloseCallSports What IS clear is that it didn't hit the jersey as Angel incorrectly ruled and the announcers stated...not that it didn't hit him, but it didn't hit his jersey. What is NOT clear is if it hit his bat or finger. You'll notice the batter made no inspection of his finger as one would if it got hit by a pitch. The only LOGICAL conclusion is that it more likely hit the bat than it did the finger.
The challenge was that it didn't hit his jersey, which it didn't. Angel THEN decided that it his his finger apparently, which is still not obvious. Nor is it obvious that it hit his bat...other than the fact that the batter never even looked or grabbed his hand.
FOR A SECOND NIGHT IN ROW, ANGEL IS GUESSING CRITICAL CALLS...and they all go against the Royals.
No shit, Sherlock. Throw strikes and we don't need umpires. The comment that preceded mine say's "it's pretty clear it didn't hit the bat." I'm arguing that it's not clear that it didn't. Nor is it clear it hit his finger. HE'S GUESSING.
The only ones who don't have to take responsibility for their actions are umpires. The don't have to answer for shitty calls. Are these the most egregious cases? Not by a long shot. But it certainly doesn't help, and MLB has given zero indication that they care about getting it right.
@Jack Tower My statement was just as asinine as "throw a strike and we're not discussing the play." I know what umps are for. Angel is terrible and escalates situations by sticking to horrible calls. He has had to guess on calls 2 nights in a row (just the latest in a career that's lasted way too long). Someone DOES have to make those decisions. But especially lately, even when they are wrong and replay clearly shows it (perhaps not last night), they have refused to correct it. This is larger than one or two games. It's happening on an almost weekly basis. MLB does not care to correct it, or hold those making the calls accountable to the teams they screw over, or the fans they are losing every day. Just so we are clear, I'm now speaking of MLB umpires in general, the league office, AND the fact that Hernandez should have retired years ago.
Uhhhh, you just went from mischaracterizing the announcer's arguments while failing to include the side view of the HBP which clearly shows the ball trajectory never changed. A quick thank you slould go out to the gods of edit.
The problems are a few fold: 1. Angel has a reputation. 2. The Out signal a couple nights ago on a fly ball to the fence (already reviewed here). 3. He and Joe West seem to be the only ones to actually call balks.
They are not the only two, but it's clear some guys are not always consistent. You're very perceptive!
I get it that this is an umpire friendly channel but if you're going to applaud Angel for rightfully calling a balk then you should also call him out for having rabbit ears and staring at the dugout looking for trouble. I've umpired for over 30 years, I know if you want to find a problem it's not hard. I don't respect Angel or Joe West but for different reasons. Joe for his "don't question me" attitude and Angel for his robotic style of umpiring and inability to understand the flow of a game. I've known many guys like Angel who think knowing the rules is enough as an official. Those type of people will never "get it" and hence players will never respect that style of umpire.
@Jack Tower what I mean by that is that as officials you need to know that where rules are not clearly defined you can impact a game whether it be positively or negatively. If you're in a game such as this one in the video what harm would there be in giving the corners to the pitcher who feels aggrieved? I'm not talking giving them obvious calls but for the coin toss calls it would help the flow of the game to let this happen. Angel's robotic style is not very well received because it comes across as not relatable to the players is how I see it.
This time Hernandez was fine, he did not make any mistake, definitely it was a bulk, everything was right including his attitude.
@@kr2934 definitely he usually has a lot mistakes but this time he didn't make any so we have to be fair about him
Hit by pitch was close. Since it's Angel Hernandez, I'm going to assume he blew it. The 4th pitch on the walk was close, but the framing was terrible. And it was only close, not an egregious call. The balk was just absurdly obvious though. Why would you even argue that?
Hilarious how everyone wants to hate Angel, but forget about the walks, and the following of the actual rules of the game that actually caused all of their problems in this inning. But hey, it’s all Angels fault. Try throwing strikes and not balking and this inning is completely different. I think the pitcher is bubbling over about his performance more than the ump, he didn’t play well.
Angel fucked up several times in this whole series. Yeah this one inning wasn’t great for singer but watch the other games too and you’ll understand their frustration
It hit the batter's fingers, not the bat. These announcers are tools. On the borderline pitch, the catcher framed it so horribly that any umpire would call that a ball. Umpires are trained to incorporate the catcher's mitt position into their ball/strike decision, and the catcher slid that thing an entire foot. It could have been a strike had he "stuck" it, but he slide that mitt all the way up into the middle of the zone. Every umpire will ball that every time. The balk was an obvious balk. Even I, as a high school umpire, would balk that one every time. As much as people hate Angel Hernandez, he did everything RIGHT here.
And he had already blown the "lights" call the other night. Proof Unions save horrible umps.
It's basically like tenure.
The Umpires Union is near - if not at the top of the "Worst Things to Ever Happen to Baseball" list.
@3:13 - catcher pulls the pitch 8 inches! - That tells me as an umpire that he thought something was wrong with it too!
I don't often agree with Angel Hernandez, but the one thing he absolutely understands is the balk rule.
Who made the actual balk call? Was it late? I didn't see the actual call in the video.
Angel Hernandez has a reputation of beong a shitty umpire and I would normally say its Angel's problem. But I have to give him credit here. The player sure looked like he got his fingers mashed by the pitch, the balk was absolutely a balk, as for the called ball, that pitch was SUPER borderline and could have gone either way.
This ejection is part A through D on why Angel is never getting a world series nod. He didn't de-escalate shit, he made some arguably horrendous calls pitch/strike... And Angel has long since EARNED his reputation and has done nothing to FIX it. That lawsuit was him adding more fuel and while this is speculation... Dude doesn't seem interested in doing the responsible thing in trying to fix it. He'll just pout at the lack of world series gigs
@Jack Tower lol okay
I actually think it did hit something but can't tell if it was a finger or the bat. Either way it probably made two sounds and so he called HBP. I can't stand the guy but...I think they got it right.
I am no fan of Angel Hernandez by any means. But the balk was correct. The HBP review, has to be conclusive evidence to overturn. Ball is so close to the bat and the fingers that are extended off the bat, you can’t see what or anything it hit. So the call HAS to stand. I think this is more based on Angels reputation.
He did not rule that it hit his hand. He ruled that it hit his jersey. If the umpires doing the review can't see that, then they are blatantly covering for his bad call.
@@artheriford whether it hit his fingers or his jersey is irrelevant. Either way, it is a HBP.
@@alanhess9306 It didn’t hit his jersey which is what he ruled.
@@artheriford Hernandez was wrong when he said it hit his jersey but he was right to say it was a HBP. It is still a HBP whether it hit his fingers or his jersey.
@@alanhess9306 I don’t think it hit either. I think I saw somewhere a few years ago that Hernandez has more calls reviewed than any other umpire.
I think you can clearly see the ball doesn’t hit anything. Idk what the count was but I have that it’s a ball and that’s it
This guy talking is definitely Angel Hernandez son
@closecallsports why would you change the balk rule? Sometimes you mention rules that might should be adjusted for any given reason. Do you think that flench should not be called a balk and so needing a rule adjustment?
Only thing Angel got wrong might have been the 4th ball, but when the catcher frames the pitch like a 6 year old....
Half the stuff included in this snowball should NEVER have been included. The balk isn't piling anything on. Neither does the balls called as balls.
If it does, you're dealing with a bunch of children who can't control their emotions.
Hmmmm. Sounds spot on. Most of the people that argue and get ticked off so much are exactly that. Like that Royals pitcher. Like Rocco Baldelli. Like sooooooo many guys in MLB.
That's nothing to brag about either.
He balked twice actually! The royals coach Elred should be fired for being a clown!! Dude balked!!
It would be nice to watch this without your biased opinionated commentary defending the worst umpire in the league, ANGEL HERNANDEZ. Casual
How has whoever is in charge of this channel never heard of a foul tip?
I agree about the balk and walks. The catch exaggerating the strike too much but I don't think that ball hit any part of the bat or the batter and I don't think the call should have stood either. I think all of us can tell conclusively.. I think it was close enough they protected him and with everything that happened the night before they weren't trying to give Hernandez any slack (the royals). I mean the mlb knows he's got problems and won't let him in on a world series. The hbp was terrible call from the start...he called jersey not knick of the finger. He just misses too much with his eyes and then tries to guess to get it right that's pretty wrong 🤣
I hear the two sounds but that don't always mean anything. But if it hit that bat yea it's strike three but how the hell did it hit him. I see what I saw. I don't see anything an this isn't the only angle I've seen. I think it's clear and conclusive it didn't hit his hand
@Jack Tower could be an echo for all I know but it wasn't a finger. Sounds like it be a broke finger if it was. No reason not to get the call right with the replay. I think it's clear enough it didn't hit his finger
100% a balk. I'm over knowing his name. I don't want to know Pro umpires names.
I don't know how we can say that hit anything.
An even bigger issue than a consistently poor performing umpire is a broken replay system. “Call stands” is not a tenable outcome because replay clearly proved the pitch did not hit the batter’s jersey, which was the call. To improve replay, baseball needs to move to something akin to the NFL where the call is audibly and emphatically announced on the PA system
Call Stands happens all the time in the NFL. Agree with you on the mic though... we've been on that for over 5 years! -tmac
I have read that MLB has plans to do a trial later this season where an umpire has a NFL-style microphone he can toggle and explain such calls to the stadium, which seems like a great idea for everything from replay to stuff like obstruction/interference calls where a vast majority of both fans and players don't really understand the rules.
@@CloseCallSports However in this instance the ball clearly doesn't touch the batter so can the call stand.
@@CloseCallSports Didn't MLB say they were going to experiment with field mics in 2020? Whatever happened with that? www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/mlb-umpires-will-wear-microphones-to-explain-review-calls-to-fans-in-2020-season-report-says/&ved=2ahUKEwipubTdxbvwAhXbXc0KHcxCCk4QFjACegQIHBAC&usg=AOvVaw12Z-IHminaVF_pLjKX9bnU
@@CloseCallSports call: Ball hit jersey
Replay: It didnt
Outcome should be: Call overruled
The hit by pitch in Ramirez wasn’t a hit by pitch or a foul ball it looked like it didn’t even touch him or the bat
If these managers were smart they'd pull their players off the field in protest over Hernandez's stupid calls.
But he was correct in all but one of the calls. And the one he got wrong was upheld on replay. But hey, it a team wants to forfeit and get huge fines from MLB that’s a great idea. Would be fun to watch.
Kevin Miller, that is a really, really dumb idea.
I like how this video says "Angel Hernandez has a reputation". You mean he fucking sucks at his job and everyone hates him. He has no business in MLB at all.
Nice try Angel, we know this is your account
If anything, the way the Royals were treated in this game, will hopefully light a fire under them to start performing better like they were in April.
If angel can't even wear a proper face covering , how in the fuck can you expect him to make any calls properly
Add to the pile was Hernandez at first the night before getting a call overturned that I called safe while having dinner with the game in the background and him admitting missing a catch in right field that they had to overturn
It's as if every time an Angel Hernandez gets in a sticky situation (from a PR standpoint), he starts calling everything by the book to avoid any further blame. This is exactly what happened here.
We all know that Angel Hernandez is a terrible umpire, but honestly in all the sequence I believe he was good. Probably one ball was close to be a strike but as it is mentioned it all build up. I think he was ok this time.
The pitcher almost started crying! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
There were definitely 2 noises on the HBP. You can go listen again, you hear "dun dun" from hitting something and then hitting the catcher's glove. Angel was 1000% wrong that it hit his jersey (hence him being in that situation - I know the channel is here to generally defend umpires, but Angel was wrong here 100%. It did not hit his jersey, nor was it close).
I personally think it hit the bottom of the bat based on when the ball changed spin, but I can see how a replay official might have thought it hit his left pinky finger as it went through. To me, this is a reversal though. I saw enough video evidence (not to mention the SOUND of the ball was not that of a ball grazing a pinky, but rather hitting the knob of the bat) to turn this to a strike 3.
All in all, Angel made a mistake and cost the Royals a run or two. Everything from there was proper umpiring, but once you make a mistake, everything you do is going to be wrong. That's human nature.
@Jack Tower It's a great channel (hence why I am here and subscribed), but to pretend that umpires don't get defended is a bit naive. I don't think the channel was MADE to defend umpires, sure, but in the realm of pro-umpire content, this is as close as it gets without being Angel Hernandez's personal UA-cam account.
There can be two sounds heard when the ball goes straight into the glove or bat. Because the mics are picking up the batter's foot. I am 100% in understanding the way umpires use sound to determine it had to have hit something, however here I think Angel was going off the batter's reaction and not sound. It doesnt look to hit anything to me and others have stated other angle shows it hit nothing. Meaning the sound was something else. And at 2:00 2:27 and the 2:50 to 3:00 sequence I hear the same double knocks and the ball only hits the glove or bat. And watching it over and over it seems the batters lead foot planting is getting picked up by the mic each time, maybe I'm crazy though
@Jack Tower depending on the swing of the batter but for the most part most guys that bring their leg up are planting their foot just before the ball gets there and they unload in their swing, but given the speed of the pitches its bang bang quick as a tenth of a second or two difference or less but enough to make a distinct separate sound. Even in this video on hits and straight into the glove pitches I am hearing the two thud knocks every time, and I am betting its the lead foot plant being caught by the mic on each swing or non swing. And I cant see any difference in the same sequence of the HBP call, he brings his foot down just as the ball gets there and then hits the glove. Im pretty certain but I could be mistaken, keep in mind there is likely also a minimal difference from the time delay of when the sound happens vs. when it comes through on the audio. I've noticed it before on broadcasts but I can vividly see the sound and step in synch on nearly all the pitches in this video. I think the mic was just sensitive enough to pick it up consistently or my hearing is having a superhuman day. I do not think the umpires are unable to tell the difference in sound of the step vs the ball hitting something and glove at least not in my experience so I'm thinking it's all simply an illusion of the mic here on this video and Angel made his call guessing off the batters reaction perhaps. Maybe he did hear something but it doesnt look to me to hit anything and I am guessing he did not make the call on sound.
@@danzakuduro1942 Good call out on the double sounds on other at bats. What I think that is is a tape delay on the ball hitting the catchers glove, and then the catcher closing his glove to try and frame it. I don't think it's the batter's foot, as the sound is consistent for multiple batters who have different strides.
That said, if you discount the sound, then that means as a replay official I would be VERY confident that the ball did not hit Ramirez. The only evidence I had at all that it hit Ramirez was the noise. The rest was a guess tied to that. I'd reverse it to a ball and play on.
I'm guessing that they said that it hit the finger(s) of his left hand which were hanging down from the bat. It might have indeed brushed the left pinkie finger on the way by and because it was so close on replay there wasn't convincing evidence to overturn it.
I see the balk with the movement after he comes set and doesn't go home with the pitch. But apparently it is ok for a pitcher to establish a "stretch move" (like Singer does every time) that includes 3 or 4 breaks in the knee of his non-pivot leg before finally coming set. I wish someone would explain why these jerky stretch routines are not also called balks -- as if these world class athletes are not capable of a smooth stretch motion before coming set.
Because the balk rule provides for the pitcher's 'Normal delivery', so as long as the jerky stretch routine is the same every time, it's not a balk.
@@mikejunt Yes, you are right; the rules allow the stretch to be any natural motion. The rules also specify that this stretch motion is without interruption and in one continuous motion. These two qualifiers can certainly be in conflict with one another. I guess "without interruption and in one continuous motion" does not have to be smooth and it can be jerky or twitchy. Not obvious to me.
I have to wonder how the word "natural" is defined in this rule. Most people equate natural with consistent in this rule. I think natural and consistent have different meanings. It seems clear to me that pitchers make use of consistent twitchy or jerky movements to stretch the rules to the limits allowed by umpires for the sole purpose of gaining every advantage possible toward deceiving hitters and baserunners. I don't blame them for seeking a competitive edge. But the inevitable result is more controversy over what is or is not a balk.
@Jack Tower the point is to eliminate attempts to deceive the runner. If the pitcher is consistent there is no deception. The rule doesn't exist to make pitching match your preferred aesthetic.
@Jack Tower if it's repeated every time it is not deceptive
@@mikejunt 1:50 3 twitches. 6:34 4 twitches. To be effective, a baserunner need only hesitate an instant longer. If the knee jerking draws attention away from some other key to a good jump, it is effective. Not any different from techniques used by illusionists (magicians) to pull off a trick. These are not movements created for biomechanical advantage or any other natural physical basis other than deception.
I used to ump and if I would see a catcher moving his glove all over I would call a ball. After a while he stopped it.
He shook his leg 3 times. Paused. Twitched. Paused then turned around. Balk
All calls were correct or within the margin of error. I believe the ball hit his finger, the one missed strike was within margin of error on the computer, and it was a balk. The Royals got in their own heads.
The hit batter never should have been called, HE wasn't hit and replay clearly shows that. IF anything it hit the bat and was caught. The funny thing is, he sued MLB for being racists in not promoting him and the JUDGE said your work history doesn't warrant a promotion or special favor. Even the judge knows he was a joke.
Umps should be fined for each overturn they called wrong instead of the players for airing their grievance. Angel would be flat broke by the end of the season!
Wrong. He has only been overturned once this season and is having a great year, statistically speaking
In the other dugout, Terry Francona's sitting there looking at Hernandez and thinking "here we go again".
6:33 just imagine sitting behind those guys ( red and yellow). Front row, wide as a car, 6 feet tall. why do they need to stand, they can see everything sitting down. that would add to the frustration of the inning if I was a Royals fan
It wasn't a balk. The pitcher turned completely around before he threw to second. There is no way that can be construed as a pitch once he turns to 2nd.
His legs flinched before the step to second base. A very obvious balk.
Can't wait for the Jomboy breakdown
Jomboy lost credibility when he showed he’s a hypocrite
@@Hacksaw_HIM_Thuggin Whatever I'm not really into analyzing everything about somebody I just think he does the best breakdowns and he's hilarious that's why his media company is only getting bigger. But you do you man
@@RandyRugarMusic well when you don’t research into yankee sign stealing or try to then yeah he’s kind of a hypocrite, but hey keep supporting someone who isn’t down the middle
@@Hacksaw_HIM_Thuggin well this guys clearly biased when hes defending the worst ump maybe in MLB history...
Close call sports is much better since they know the rules and the game much better than Jomboy.
The broadcasters did not say the pitch hit anything, they said that if contact was made, the only thing possible that could have been hit was the bat or a finger.
Still can't argue a balk call.
It clearly was a balk
I see a lot of times when a pitcher bluffs a throw to second, and 99% of the time, the balk is NOT called. This time he does throw to second, and they call a balk. What gives?
It’s a balk. Can’t start and stop.
Had he raised his leg straight up and spun towards second he would have been ok. Pretty sure the start and stop is what got called.
First of all. This is KC. The worlds most homer fan base. Nothing that KC ever does is their own fault
I’m a Royals fan. And sadly, you aren’t wrong about most of the KC fans.
I'm seeing alot of mlb catchers that over-frame low pitches. When you have a pitch that's close and you yank it up 2 feet higher, your doing a disservice to the pitcher. It makes it appear to the ump that your pulling it from outside the strike zone and hes going to call it a ball. I paused to make this comment and then you said the exact same thing lol.
Angel Hernandez basically makes a fool of himself every game. It’s becoming an issue and MLB needs to get rid of him. It’s actually hurting the reputation of other umpires because he is bringing the perception of umpires down.
Combine Angel Hernandez‘s history with a phantom jersey hit by pitch, and you have reasonable doubt for umpire incompetence (if the ball head hit the hand, why did Hernandez signal to the jersey?) Any game he officiate is going to be starting off as bubbling, no matter what
Experts commenting on framing pitches need to help out this poor Salvador Perez guy whoever he is. He obviously doesnt have any experience or knowledge of the position! 😄
That is a balk, 100% of the time.
Sadly that was the best moment with Mike Matheny as manager
Of course, the real fun part is that both the call referenced and the Nielsen "call" were correct!
Lol thats literally the most obvious balk Ive ever seen. 90% of the time Im squinting my eyes trying to figure out what the hell they're calling. This is a straight up, plain as day balk, literally the example I would use as a training video......but its Angel.....so it just feels wrong haha
They said nope because you can tell it wasn't going to hit his jersey, that's why they said it before the pitch "got there".
Might be the only correct call Angel has made in his career. He is the absolute worst and I disagree with your assessment that pitch did NOT hit the jersey which he called. Bat vs Finger is another story but no way it hit his jersey which was his call. Angel should have been out of umpiring LONG LONG ago
We literally saw the pitch hit the bat in slow mo and he says the call should stand???
Angel Hernandez is a joke to the umpiring profession. That said, I do believe in giving credit where credit is due and he did get two of those calls correct. It did look like the first pitch hit the knob of the bat. He did miss a strike, but with him, that’s a given
Umpires get it wrong again.
And you come to the defense of Angel? He’s no Angel, he’s a demon.
I’m a Royals fan. Also, I’m a baseball fan which means I can’t stand Angel. The hit by pitch was the only call I have an issue with. He regularly doesn’t give the outside corner, and complaining about any umpire’s zone is silly if they are consistent with it. No need to explode like that, but the team is slumping and maybe this will lite a fire.
He was giving the corners to Bieber but not Singer.
Call does not stand. Angel said it hit uniform. Replay shows that didn’t happen.
I watch every Indians game I can get. The Tribe swept all four games but, this entire series was a mess. Both teams had problems with each official. Francona, manager of the Indians, even stated to Angel, "How does this always happen with you and your crews?" MLB needs to do some serious evaluation of this group.
The announcers did not say anything about it hot hit anything until the replays started.
On the balk call the pitchers leg obviously moves which could make it a balk but if you watch all the other pitches he does the same thing before pitching, which makes it part of his normal motion. Could have been call a balk but probably shouldn't have been. The bigger issue is that most MLB games that have issues involving an umpire the umpire is Angel Hernandez. And when the umpires name is more recognizable than some of the players he shouldn't be on the field.
He came set then flinched before throwing to second base. That was a clear balk. It is completely different than replanting his free foot while coming set. Doing something illegal does make it legal if he does it every time.