Neapolitan Chords: Favorite Examples from Mozart

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  • @DJKLProductions
    @DJKLProductions 3 роки тому +32

    The Neapolitan chord with the rising slow arpeggio in the 2nd movement of 23rd piano concerto by Mozart always let me hold my breath and let time stand still for a moment. Absolutely increadible!

    • @petermerelis
      @petermerelis 2 роки тому +3

      has always been a favorite moment of mine as well. nice to now know how it works.

  •  5 років тому +299

    I just want someone to want me as much as that high note D wants to resolve into C# in 8:59.

    • @citizent6999
      @citizent6999 5 років тому +8

      I played it through on the piano but found that a c# doesn't resolve anything. It was a disappointing effect.

    •  5 років тому +24

      @@citizent6999 If you only played G-B-D, sure, of course it has no tendency to resolve, because you play it like you're in G major. In G major, this note D is perfectly stable and has no desire to resolve into C#. But, remember, in this context here, we are in F# minor. You have to play from the beginning of the movement, not just jump into this measure. It is the context that makes it require resolution.

    • @JonathanDavis7
      @JonathanDavis7 5 років тому +7

      @@citizent6999 a very disappointing D then?

    • @citizent6999
      @citizent6999 5 років тому +2

      @@JonathanDavis7 D will often disappoint

    • @MrAdamNTProtester
      @MrAdamNTProtester 5 років тому +2

      That will NEVER happen...

  • @pinecone8722
    @pinecone8722 5 років тому +95

    These are the kind of videos I have scoured UA-cam for but are hard to find---there are tons of videos analyzing pop and jazz songs, but few that break down classical music in such a great way. For somebody interested in classical music but not deeply classically trained, I benefit so much from your breakdowns of these pieces. I look forward to your future videos on the individual Mozart pieces. I hope you'll take requests some time too!

  • @tobyelms6148
    @tobyelms6148 7 місяців тому +2

    My personal favourite is in Pamina’s lament called “Ach such Fuhl’s” from Die Zauberflote- give it a listen if you don’t know it; it’s so beautiful and difficult to sing!

  • @Joshburger196
    @Joshburger196 4 роки тому +17

    I need a channel like yours. I came for the neopolitan chord, and I stayed for the analysis and (small) history lesson.

  • @sebclax5073
    @sebclax5073 5 років тому +104

    That orchestra entry after the piano neapolitan is so luscious

    • @Richard.Atkinson
      @Richard.Atkinson  5 років тому +25

      One of the most inspired Mozart passages!

    • @thomaspick4123
      @thomaspick4123 5 років тому +4

      Really? What did it taste like?

    • @seoulstn
      @seoulstn 4 роки тому +1

      @@thomaspick4123 😂😂

    • @alexandrugheorghe5610
      @alexandrugheorghe5610 4 роки тому +6

      @@thomaspick4123 in Romanian we do have a word "napolitană" which means "wafer" so, therefore, I did giggle, understandably. 😅🤭😁😜✌🏻🙌🏻😝👌🏻 Tasty. 😂🤣🤔☺️😌🙂😁

    • @DanielFahimi
      @DanielFahimi 2 роки тому +2

      @@thomaspick4123 Neapolitan ice cream

  • @byronrakitzis
    @byronrakitzis 21 день тому +2

    My favorite Neapolitan in Mozart: 40th symphony, last movement, second theme in the recapitulation. A sublime rising Ab major arpeggio in the winds.

    • @Richard.Atkinson
      @Richard.Atkinson  21 день тому +1

      @@byronrakitzis I also love that one! Especially when the woodwinds take over.

    • @byronrakitzis
      @byronrakitzis 20 днів тому +1

      @@Richard.Atkinson there are a lot of treasures in that recap: the rising chromatic scale in the 1st violins, followed by the "sighing" syncopated reply. The chromaticisms in the bassoons, accompanied by a horn pedal which suddenly drops all the way down to the fundamental. It shows he used exceptional care crafting this passage.

  • @alexshih3747
    @alexshih3747 5 років тому +42

    4:46 I've always loved the suspensions in the oboes here. Not many other composers could've thought of something so fitting to this particular moment. It really shows Mozart's gift for idiomatic woodwind writing.

    • @simpletwo4768
      @simpletwo4768 5 років тому +3

      Makes it sound like organ!

    • @elleboman8465
      @elleboman8465 4 роки тому +2

      Mozart sure loved his woodwinds, and the feeling is mutual! /A bassoonist

    • @liangseng7474
      @liangseng7474 4 роки тому +1

      Another part that sounds similar can be found in the Overture to Cosi Fan Tutte

    • @davidbruce7244
      @davidbruce7244 4 роки тому +2

      For me its the most beautiful part of a wonderful concerto.

  • @StevenRogers-mero909
    @StevenRogers-mero909 5 місяців тому +1

    Mozart's 20th Piano Concerto is, imo, the greatest piece of music I have ever heard. I think I listened to only this piece for an entire summer.

  • @MartyMusic777
    @MartyMusic777 4 роки тому +12

    That sounds like the Levin interpretation of the Mozart Piano Concerto in D minor - no other player I know plays along with the orchestra before the written entrance because that's how it was done in Mozart's day.

    • @Sshooter444
      @Sshooter444 3 роки тому +2

      I had the pleasure of hearing Levin play this live

    • @kuraga9147
      @kuraga9147 3 роки тому +1

      But there isn't it in the original manuscript. Although it appears in NMA score for the first time.

  • @sarahm5936
    @sarahm5936 2 роки тому +2

    I love the way Mozart handles the N6.

  • @airpanache
    @airpanache Рік тому +1

    I love when you said almost every Mozart’s piano concerto deserved its own video :) I’m sure he would’ve been proud of his piano concertos.

  • @alexshih3747
    @alexshih3747 5 років тому +107

    1:58 My two biggest criticisms of music pedagogy (at least in the context of common-practice music theory) are that 1) most of the time, students are taught to blindly follow the rules of the period without being given adequate explanations for why the rules exist (in fact, they're often not even told that the rules are mainly relevant in a common-practice context) and 2) the almost exclusive focus on harmony, to the detriment of other important musical features. This is especially problematic because most forms of modern popular music have relatively unsophisticated harmonies and relatively sophisticated timbres and rhythms. If students think music is just harmony, they'll automatically dismiss some of the greatest 21st century music as boring or unsophisticated.

    • @Richard.Atkinson
      @Richard.Atkinson  5 років тому +23

      I agree with both of those. That's why I hardly ever focus on roman numeral analysis, which often just leads to fruitless arguments about the several possible accurate ways of labeling something.

    • @vivvpprof
      @vivvpprof 5 років тому +4

      Like what, Lady Gaga? :D

    • @alexshih3747
      @alexshih3747 5 років тому +5

      @@vivvpprof I don't know much about Lady Gaga, but I'd say that Kendrick Lamar has produced some of the greatest music of the last few decades.

    • @vivvpprof
      @vivvpprof 5 років тому +2

      @@alexshih3747 I listened for a while to his "DNA" and it's basically re-worked folk music, e.g. ua-cam.com/video/epKIGQOkm5c/v-deo.html

    • @rockifythis
      @rockifythis 5 років тому +4

      @@vivvpprof You're technically correct but that's a very reductive and simplistic view of hip-hop. It's like saying Chopin's mazurkas and polonaises are basically reworked Polish folk, that's right but it doesn't even begin to describe it, does it?

  • @brianbernstein3826
    @brianbernstein3826 5 років тому +8

    my favorite Neapolitan chord is used throughout Chopin's F# minor polonaise (you'll know which one I mean ). he puts it in 3rd inversion, which Chopin does a lot, and sounds amazing

  • @yehudaost.7039
    @yehudaost.7039 3 роки тому +1

    you are simply amazing. i listen to your lectures hypnotized!

  • @gideonels
    @gideonels 5 років тому +2

    Thanks for the best description and explanation of the N6 I have ever seen. It is true what you said - textbooks provide the 'theory' but actually listening and seeing the chord in 'action' like you did made so much more sense.

  • @richardyu3591
    @richardyu3591 4 роки тому +4

    Thank you! beautifully explained! now that i see how Mozart used the Neapolitan sixth so masterfully within the context of each example, it has made me appreciate these (some of my personal) favourite Mozart pieces even more :D

  • @brettaspivey
    @brettaspivey 4 роки тому +7

    Actually the last example, the Dies Irae, I think is one of the most iconic uses of Neapolitan in all of music

  • @mcnultyfp
    @mcnultyfp 3 роки тому +2

    I like plenty! As a partially trained musician picking up his lute again, I couldn't be more pleased to find your channel. Both K.466 and K.488 are being recorded this week by Olga Pashchenko and Il Gardinello, using one of my fortepianos. It helps so much to try to get inside these pieces.

  • @christopherphelps7917
    @christopherphelps7917 5 років тому +2

    It's great that we can all look at Mozart's music and, even on as specific a point as the use of Neapolitan 6th chords, there can still be people saying "what about this one that you missed.." My personal favourite is omitted here: it's in the Act II finale of the Magic Flute, in the chorale prelude/fugue section, where Mozart adds an extra phrase to the Lutheran chorale he is quoting, puts a N6 into it, and uses this as a precursor to a modulation to Db that is quite possibly my favourite moment in his entire output, partly because of the audacity of the moment itself but partly because of the way he then resolves this conflict in the most sublime way possible over the next couple of minutes. Genius.

  • @jonathanp935
    @jonathanp935 5 років тому +6

    Can't wait for k. 466 1st movement to be analyzed.

  • @moirbasso7051
    @moirbasso7051 5 років тому +4

    This made theory fun! Love Mozart; all of his music bespeaks genius.

  • @matthiasm4299
    @matthiasm4299 5 років тому +5

    Sweet, I attended a performance of the D minor concerto by Mitsuko Uchida just last week and was listening to the Levin recording earlier today. Seems like Mr. Atkinson has impeccable timing when it comes to his uploads! 😄 Great job as always!

    • @simonsmatthew
      @simonsmatthew 4 роки тому +1

      Try and see and support other performers. A problem is the dominance of a few performers - Uchida, Ashkenazy etc that demand outrageous fees. To understand why this happens you need to understand the industry - which has tendencies towards monopolistic accumulation, like any other. It pays the major labels to have fewer artists and to promote them as 'great'. It allows them to avoid the higher risks and costs of promoting new and different artists. This convenient and self-serving arrangement keeps a certain hierarchy in place. For the health of music (and society) itself, it is a cycle that has to be broken.

  • @flaviocalaon__
    @flaviocalaon__ 5 років тому +1

    You have revolutionary my music life! THANK YOU!!!

  • @MaggaraMarine
    @MaggaraMarine 2 роки тому +2

    Mozart also uses N6/4 and the tonicization of the Neapolitan in Piano Concerto No.24 (last movement).

  • @Martill3
    @Martill3 5 років тому +2

    Thank you so much for this!! Absolutely love the example from the Dies Irae, what a breathtaking moment.

  • @Jose-tl6uy
    @Jose-tl6uy 5 років тому +3

    Just wanted to say that I love your videos and always learn something new! Thanks for taking the time to share you knowledge!

  • @rabbibarrykornblau9877
    @rabbibarrykornblau9877 5 років тому +63

    Mozart didn't notate the 17:14 in flats as would be normal for Neapolitan harmony. He intentionally used sharps. Why? Because in addition to the passage and its C#m chord "simply sounding cool" as commenter above rightly observes (even as its chromatic voice leadings follow "the rules"), his sharps show us his harmonic intent.
    Previously he made an unusual move from Neapolitan (Db 6/4) to V to VI (A minor), messing with listeners' heads by successively using both available versions of the sixth pitch of the scale, Ab and A and their respective corresponding flatted and natural scale pitches.
    Now, he doubles down and uses the Neapolitan and all its implied flatted pitches to *briefly modulate* to plain old A minor with all its natural pitches - except G#.
    So he uses sharps all the way, with G# pedal (the only shared pitch between this Neapolitan and Am). First, C#M (over G#). Then G#7 (over G#). Then E# becomes E natural, leaving C#m (over G#). Then the D# becomes D natural 🤤 so we hear a E7 chord (still over the G#!), which resolves "conventionally" to the A minor chord (the other sharps we've been hearing now go away, too) which has been his destination all along - just as it was 1st time we heard it few measures back.
    In short, the sharps (in place of the expected flats) tell the reader and performers that he plans to redo his earlier highly unusual resolution of VI flat to VI natural (from the perspective of the C major which is the background to this whole paasage) but even more intensely than before (G#/Ab pedal, use of temporary dominant E7, etc).
    Anyway that how this man's ears hear it - and that's how Mozart notated it, too!

    • @Richard.Atkinson
      @Richard.Atkinson  5 років тому +15

      I think you win!

    • @rabbibarrykornblau9877
      @rabbibarrykornblau9877 5 років тому +12

      Master Teacher, @@Richard.Atkinson - your approval made my day!

    • @shirakornblau5911
      @shirakornblau5911 5 років тому +19

      @@rabbibarrykornblau9877 As his daughter, I can attest to the fact that it made his day. He is quite proud of his achievement 🏆🏆😄

    • @pnocella
      @pnocella 5 років тому +2

      Nicely done--both the video and the analysis! So, the 2nd time (17:14) Mozart may have notated initially with flats but with the serendipitous move to the minor Neapolitan(!) saw an opportunity to move directly to VI (Am) by skipping the "middle man" V (G) thus deciding to use sharps, instead?

    • @oneeyemonster3262
      @oneeyemonster3262 5 років тому +1

      There're just Harmonic min b2 or Melodic min b2...or Enigmatic scales.
      Like the Double harmonic min or Harmonic min #4
      or Loc Maj7, ion #6, dor #5, phry#4, lyd #3, mix #2, aeo#1
      Aeo#1 transfer to (loc bb3, b4, bb7)
      oh..if you're familar with different scales..you'll be familar with variations of
      loc...loc bb7.. loc b4..loc maj6.. loc b4, bb7...ect..... Loc bb3, b4, bb7
      or Loc maj7.lol.....why Not?
      Keys are just PITCH of the MAJOR scale ( Reference)
      There's different ways to keep track of the 10-ea scales
      aeo dor
      Harmonic min melodic min
      Harmonic min b2 melodic min b2
      Harmonic min b5 melodic min b5 ( why not? :-P)
      Harmonic min #4 melodic min #4
      Ion #6
      .....
      What if I list it like this?
      aeo maj7 Harmonic min
      dor maj7 melodic min
      phry maj7 Harmonic min b2
      mix maj7 Ionian
      loc maj7 Ion #6
      dor b2 maj7
      dor #4 maj7
      dor b5 maj7
      aeo b2 maj7
      aeo #4 maj7
      aeo b5 maj7
      ......................
      dor b5 is the ii mode of Harmonic MAJOR
      mix b6, maj7 = Harmonic MAJOR
      mix b6 = V of Melodic min
      Aeo b5 is the iv mode of Melodic min
      Harmonic min b5 is the iii mode of HUNGARIAN MAJOR
      aeo#4 is the iv mode of Harmonic min b2
      aeo #4, maj7 is AKA Hungarian minor.
      They had to call them something..
      but I dont have a problem playing A min C dim into C# min
      I could had play A min B7 into E Major or E min
      ( A lydian b3 ( melodic min #4 = E Harmonic MAJOR)
      I could had play G#7 phrygian b4 ( 1, b4, 5, b7) into C# min..
      But hey.. C dim into C# min....works.
      it's the same as playing G7....B dim/G into C Maj..or C min
      but the A lydian b3 is also a possible dim or full dim
      Bb maj or Augment to G min G harmonic , melodic min
      Just incase you wanna play the G Mix #2 (A# note instead of Bb) :-P
      Any ways....back to the C# min/E MAJOR
      C# min....D maj7 E7 F# min /A MAJOR
      C# min D dim E7 A harmonic min or A harmonic MAJOR
      C# min D7 E7 A Melodic min
      C# min D min E dim into F MAJOR or F min....sort like F melodic min
      C# min D maj E Maj F# dim into G MAJOR or G min
      Do you see the D7......F#dim/D into G MAJOR or G min ?
      Notice the D, E or F chords....how they relate back to
      C MAJOR/Amin....if i want to modulated back to A min
      After the E MAJOR
      or I could had easily played F dim into F# min/A MAJOR
      F dim, G# dim into A min.
      or F maj. Fdim#G maj G# dim into A....whatever ..
      it'll be sort of the same movement...if
      I did it between the A Natrual min/C Major
      A min BbMaj, B dim, C maj, C# into D min
      Then the same from Dmin/F Major
      D min, Eb maj E dim F Maj F# dim G Maj G# into A
      or the same from E min/G MAJOR G# dim/aug into A
      or play the G# Maj to D7 ( V of G Major)
      Then play Eb Maj( apply it again)
      to the C min chord. ( as lydian b3 to G Harmonic MAJOR)
      I can play C dim ( B7) D# dim into E min
      or D7 into the G MAJOR..again
      There's all kinds of cool stuff you can do.
      I could had easily play C Maj C# dim into D min, EbMaj to C min
      Then G min, F min, E7 into A min again...
      Notice the Db/C# is a Maj3 stack below the F min DIAD
      G# or Ab is WH or b3 from
      F lydian #2 ( A harmonic min) Lydian b3 ( C Harmonic MAJOR)
      it'll sound sort of like play F min G7 into C Maj...
      You'll see/hear the iv as min....from time to time...
      for Cadence...or flavoring
      I can even play the Bb Maj after the A min...then alter the A to A MAJOR.
      it'll be as if I play A Maj. Bb maj, C Maj D min ( typical spanished guitar
      or using the D Harmonic min..A7 into D min
      or C# augmented into the D min chord ( II V I) back to C MAJOR..again
      if I wanted to...Then alter the C to C7 into F min, E7 into A min again.lmao
      Or play the Db..stack over the F min E min A min...for cadence.lol
      Then Bb dim C# dim into D Min again...hahahaaaa

  • @hanemaung5293
    @hanemaung5293 5 років тому +1

    Thank you for making this excellent video. That quintet is truly sublime. The subtle harmonic complexity and depth are extraordinary, especially given the deceptive simplicity of the thematic material and overall form. The enharmonically altered Neopolitan chord and C# minor chord in the recapitulation are utterly mystifying, yet somehow he know they'd make perfect sense. For me, this exemplifies what sets Mozart's music above everyone else's.

  • @brunogripp
    @brunogripp 5 років тому +4

    Die Zauberflöte has two Neapolitan chords I like a lot. At the end of Pamina's aria Ach ich fühl's, which reinforces the characters pain and in the beginning of the ending sequence in Der, welcher wandert diese Strasse voll beschwerden, which gives a kind of mysterious flavor.

    • @liangseng7474
      @liangseng7474 4 роки тому +1

      And also near the end of the Queen of the Night aria in Act II

  • @HaydenofEverything
    @HaydenofEverything 5 років тому +2

    Tfw the orchestra kicks in after the piano solo in the K. 488 A Major Piano Concerto Movement 2 and you hear that violin arpeggio.

  • @alialloush3579
    @alialloush3579 2 роки тому +1

    Wounderful effort and knowledge ❤️❤️❤️❤️🙏🙏🙏 much appreciated.. i hope to see videos analysing whole peices

  • @CalebCarman
    @CalebCarman 5 років тому +9

    I’ve actually heard some musicologists make the case that tonality in the 18th century was still utilizing extended meantone tuning rather than equal temperament, which essentially means that a diatonic semitone - G#-A- is aurally wider than its cousin, the chromatic semitone - Ab-A. That would mean the section from the C Major Quintet in c-sharp minor is ever so slightly LOWER than the parallel passage in D-flat. Weird.

    • @cindytartt4048
      @cindytartt4048 2 роки тому

      I’ve tried to make the case that in parts of Italy this wasn’t always the situation (for want of a better word).

  • @topquark22
    @topquark22 5 років тому +1

    I learned to compose music kind of like a language, the way I fluently use words, not thinking too much about the details of theory. But when I started to explore, for instance, the exposés of the Bach's WTC by Tim Smith, my musical productivity exploded. Now I know what I was really doing when I used Neapolitan chords in my own works! Thank you very much.

  • @jvenegas8868
    @jvenegas8868 4 роки тому +1

    Finally figured out why I like your videos so much. They remind a lot about my older brother's classes (university professor though in the completely unrelated discipline of physical therapy). I've had the pleasure of attending and helping with a few, and I love your videos as much as I loved those classes :)

  • @jillum89
    @jillum89 4 роки тому +6

    It probably doesn't count. I don't know enough about music theory. But I'm reminded of Mozart's Ach Ich Fuhl's, a death aria which constantly makes you believe that the music is about to modulate back to tonica, and then it takes a turn. (In my opinion, perfecly illustrating the agony and torture of wanting to die, and you feel so close, but you can't.) Half way through the music, it modulates to the dominant, and you're sure it's about to modulate to tonica and wrap up. But the chord rises by a semitone ... and btw, then the soprano explodes in an ff highnote of agony. I know it's not a neapolitan chord because it's over the dominant not the tonica. But I love it. I hope that explanation of a layman made somewhat sense. :'D

    • @Pawel_Malecki
      @Pawel_Malecki 3 роки тому

      "Ach, ich fühl's" is a break up aria, not a death aria.

  • @paulanderson6834
    @paulanderson6834 3 роки тому +2

    My favourite use of the Neapolitan chord is the one at the end of Bach's Passacaglia and Fugue.

  • @orb3796
    @orb3796 5 років тому +2

    I have genuine love for how informative your videos are. Keep up the good work!

  • @eliasss8229
    @eliasss8229 2 роки тому +1

    also the 3rd mov of schubert sonata in a minor d784 uses different Times the neapolitan chord in those arpeggios in contrary motion

  • @Geopholus
    @Geopholus 5 років тому +1

    I love Your examples and analysis,,, VERY INSPIRING ! ! !

  • @pawncube2050
    @pawncube2050 5 років тому +5

    I could pass at least 3 hours without stop watching your videos. Or even the whole day. +1 Subscriber, really good quality content there.

  • @threethrushes
    @threethrushes 5 років тому +5

    As a mere amateur music lover, I envy your command and fluency in the most beautiful language ever created.

  • @cris.cooper
    @cris.cooper 5 років тому +27

    Excelent video! Could you make a video about augmented 6ths? Italian, german and french. It’s a topic that I’ve never understood since school. Thanks!

    • @tangsolaris9533
      @tangsolaris9533 4 роки тому +2

      Awesome suggestion, I'm glad it's now been realized!

  • @juanlamanna2574
    @juanlamanna2574 3 роки тому +7

    K488, 2nd mov, is sublime. I understand it's the only movement he ever composed in the key of f sharp minor. I have struggled for decades to find the right tempo. Traditionally, Siciliani are a bit faster than what is usually played in this movement. Same can be said of Magic Flute's Ach, ich fuhl, which is often sung too slowly. However, it's hard to pull off the amazing depth of both of these masterpieces at a slightly quicker pace. I can't figure it out.

  • @mwong987
    @mwong987 4 роки тому +2

    Awesome! I was analyzing that particular opening in the 2nd movement of the 23rd piano concerto last week and kept wondering why the G major chord felt so right in the key of F# minor. D major certainly has the effect of tonicizing the Neapolitan, and is result of the upward chromatic deceptive cadence at C#7. The effect is tremendous on the listener even if they don't know how it works!

  • @fredrikhiller7238
    @fredrikhiller7238 8 місяців тому

    Lovely! Thank you so much for creating these.

  • @davidmccourt9949
    @davidmccourt9949 5 років тому +1

    Thankyou Richard. Yet another very informative and brilliant work.

  • @liangseng7474
    @liangseng7474 4 роки тому +1

    I also like the use of N6 at the Andante part of the Don Giovanni Overture, with the use of tremolo in the upper strings

  • @ze_rubenator
    @ze_rubenator 5 років тому +62

    Well this sure was an unexpected Christmas present. It's not even Christmas!

  • @michaelbrodsky1221
    @michaelbrodsky1221 5 років тому +1

    Wonderful video. The substance is frequently beyond my competence. But the video has been fashioned with love and that love is contagious.

  • @tomhamilton5707
    @tomhamilton5707 5 років тому +1

    Great to understand this chord in context. Thanks a lot

  • @cosmicsprings8690
    @cosmicsprings8690 5 років тому +5

    Brilliant insight..plus Mozart is 300 years young this year.. you still rock Amadeus..

    • @jbckk8671
      @jbckk8671 5 років тому +3

      Bryan Sturgeon
      He was born in 1756...

    • @cosmicsprings8690
      @cosmicsprings8690 5 років тому +1

      jbckk ok thanks the guys on radio bbc3 did a concert for him last week you better tell them they was wrong

    • @cosmicsprings8690
      @cosmicsprings8690 5 років тому +1

      jbckk nice one for the detail and maybe they played a study of his father so this would be the 300 year of that piece.

    • @ashleythorpe7933
      @ashleythorpe7933 3 роки тому

      265 years

  • @citizent6999
    @citizent6999 5 років тому +2

    There's some lovely examples in the Rondo in A minor, K.511

  • @adrianomeis184
    @adrianomeis184 5 років тому +4

    Super interesting! You have explained in the best and easiest way the N chord :)

  • @francescoperi7810
    @francescoperi7810 5 років тому +2

    Great video, informative and clear (and really spot-on Italian pronunciation!)

  • @misi1979
    @misi1979 3 роки тому +2

    I wish that such a good audio and visual presentation such as this to have in My music school..SO clear and understandable...make Me wonder how it was so hard to understand this? Thank You Richard for this!:)

  • @kevinmoore4237
    @kevinmoore4237 5 років тому +2

    I love your idea of teaching theory using the most insanely great passages. All of these are passages that jumped out at me as timeless hooks when I did a non-scholarly binge listening of all mozart's mature pieces.
    This part (@ 8:45) almost sounds like it's changed key temporarily to G.

  • @mrnnhnz
    @mrnnhnz 2 місяці тому

    I'm a bass, and I can tell you it's very satisfying to sing his Requiem.

  • @AndreaSergon
    @AndreaSergon Рік тому

    Thanks for all this precious work ♥

  • @mikegrossmanmusic
    @mikegrossmanmusic 5 років тому +1

    Thank you for this.

  • @thomasjohn5037
    @thomasjohn5037 3 роки тому +2

    Loved your analysis!! I just take the opportunity to mention one of my favourite neapolitan chord passage which is the codetta of 1st mvt of Beethoven's Waldstein sonata. Its a passage with two repeating phrases which are an octave apart. The Neapolitan doesn't appear in the exposition but only in the recapitulation, and that too only in the 1st phrase which is quite a memorable moment.

  • @silverstonegg2349
    @silverstonegg2349 5 років тому +3

    Great video, Richard! I agree too, that musical education tends to avoid 'adventurous' chords in harmony lessons.
    Edit: for anyone wondering, there is also a Neapolitan chord used in act 1 no 4 of the magic flute.

    • @Richard.Atkinson
      @Richard.Atkinson  5 років тому +3

      Well, three of the four examples in this video are not really that "adventurous." I'm more against using mundane, boring examples than I am against using simple examples.

    • @silverstonegg2349
      @silverstonegg2349 5 років тому +2

      @@Richard.Atkinson I know what you mean. I'm currently studying music in higher education in the UK, and when we learn how harmonise a melody in the style of Bach, its all I IV V, despite diminished 7ths often being used in chorales we've studied.

    • @valentins6279
      @valentins6279 5 років тому +4

      As I study music and therefore also music theory I totally agree with you.
      Speaking of the magic flute: I always loved the unexpected Neapolitan chord in the next-to-last bar of the no.17 Aria - it effects such a sadness truly summing up Pamina's despair.

  • @GianlucaCagnaniJSBGLORY
    @GianlucaCagnaniJSBGLORY 4 роки тому +1

    Osmin's aria 'Trallalera' (Wer ein liebchen hat gefunden) from Mozart's Serail, has an incredibly intense N6 on the second 'Trallalera' ritornello, with a 9th over cellos and Cb!

  •  5 років тому +6

    Trying to analyse and situate that C sharp minor chord harmonically around 17:38 is a bit difficult.
    Still, I would say that the chord belongs to another tonality (hence, it modulates briefly) - to *A Major* - because it is easier to classify the chord and to understand the overall harmony.
    The C# chord and the next chord (E7 dom) don't, however, have a tonic quality in my analysis, hence I would analyse them both as one single chord that changes in quality in the second measure for two reasons:
    1) Because the bass tone is the same and;
    2) Because you can actually read the C# chord as a dominant (despite not sounding like one) and it would be labeled V6 (all in A Major).
    I hope I've been helpful and that my analysis makes perfect sense to you!
    Greetings!

    • @Richard.Atkinson
      @Richard.Atkinson  5 років тому +5

      I agree that it makes most sense to describe the passage in terms of other tonalities, but the only one that makes sense to me is C# itself. I'm not sure how anything in that passage relates to A major at all. Can you explain what you mean?

    •  5 років тому +2

      @@Richard.Atkinson I would label the overall harmony as A Major because I see the C# in that chord not as a tonic, but as a false anticipation to the tonic A. Still, there's no resolution of the tone, so instead it functions as a leading tone to the seventh of the dominant chord (D), that then resolves deceptively to A minor.

  • @alpe3929
    @alpe3929 2 роки тому

    Great job, so clear to understand. thanks.

  • @stevegandy4203
    @stevegandy4203 Рік тому +1

    I love your analyses. They make me gain a deeper appreciation of these well known pieces. I wondered if you will ever analyze a piece by Tsaikovsky?

  • @brucermorgan
    @brucermorgan 5 років тому +1

    You are doing a great service to music studies .

  • @de31.8
    @de31.8 5 років тому +1

    What an amazing, well produced video!
    You better believe that after watching it to the end I liked it and subscribed!

  • @TheMafouin
    @TheMafouin 5 років тому +2

    Great lesson, thank you for it

  • @petergreen1869
    @petergreen1869 5 років тому +1

    Brilliant stuff.
    Many thanks sir.

  • @brechelt1
    @brechelt1 5 років тому +13

    Jazz explains this easier (subjective, I admit). Neopolitan chords = Tritone substitution of the V7. If the N had it's 7th (N7), both the N7 and V7 share the same 3 and 7 (but they're flipped). ie. C: N7 = Db-F-Ab-Cb, and V7 = G-B-D-F. They both have an F and B (Cb for the N7, but it's enharmonically the same note). (That "IF" is big, because in Mozart's writing the N7 wasn't used. However, it was a stepping stone to the modern treatment of the TT sub. One could say)

    • @JuanLucangioli
      @JuanLucangioli 3 роки тому +1

      Interesting point of view. But I would say that the most similar thing to a Tsub at that time was the augmented sixth chord. Not just for its construction but also for its usage. It is a dominant chord and it's resolved half step down exactly like a V/V sub (Ab7 - G7 or Ab7-C/G-V7 if you wanna sound more mozart). In fact, the french augmented six chord has D in the Ab7 chord which is the #11 giving you the famous lydian b7 scale which is also the first scale any jazz musician would play over a Tsub. By the way Richard if you see this comment: a video explaining what scales mozart uses over the augmented sixth chord would be sooo interesting.

    • @ADarkandStormyNight
      @ADarkandStormyNight 3 роки тому

      Well, I usually just avoid getting into it on things like a youtube comment thread, but actually this is an erroneous way to teach the N6. You frequently see it taught as a major triad built on the flat second scale degree, and this is totally wrong. The acoustic root of the N6, is in fact the fourth scale degree, which is why it is usually doubled. The flat second scale degree is functioning as a tendency tone, and is not at all functioning as the root. Much like how a cadential 6/4 is spelled like a I 6/4 but its in fact the V harmony, with two tendency tones, a similar thing is occurring here. Even in Rameau's treatise on Harmony, where,in 1722, the concept of chords having a root was first proposed, he made this distinction. The N6 is very much an alteration of the iv harmony. Having said that, your observation is still of course correct in that if you make it into a Dominant 7 chord it is the same pitch classes as a Tsub for the V. A similar constant misunderstanding related to the deceptive cadence, but that is a rant for another day lol. Anyway, that was my youtube comment quota for the year :)

  • @fe12rrps
    @fe12rrps 5 років тому +1

    thank you. great video!

  • @sockneman
    @sockneman 3 роки тому +1

    Very interesting. Thank you!

  • @taylorpoole1053
    @taylorpoole1053 5 років тому +1

    I love the bit at 16:30. The Neapolitan section sounds to me like a tonicization of the Neapolitan, but the augmented 6th chord-the same exact notes as the dominant of the Neapolitan-sounds like a completely different chord.

  • @guitaraldo
    @guitaraldo 5 років тому +1

    Awesome, thank for this jewel!!

  • @musik350
    @musik350 5 років тому +17

    The neapolitan chord also has a big role in Beethoven's op. 106.

    • @Ivan_1791
      @Ivan_1791 5 років тому +1

      Hello mate. :)

    • @elaineblackhurst1509
      @elaineblackhurst1509 5 років тому

      Noah As does Haydn; this Neapolitan chord is actually quite common and part of the everyday language across all three of these composers.

    • @musik350
      @musik350 5 років тому +1

      @@elaineblackhurst1509 What I meant to say though is that the Neapolitan chord does have a way bigger role in op 106. It acts as the harmonical antagonist to the main key in a fashion that can't be compared to anything that has been composed earlier.

  • @danal81
    @danal81 5 років тому

    Very nice presentation. Carefully thought out. Thank you

  • @mozessiwang7751
    @mozessiwang7751 5 років тому +3

    What a remarkable analysis video!Thanks Richard! And there's a tiny mistake, before the D7 It should be the K64 at the 12:57

  • @composer7325
    @composer7325 5 років тому +1

    Excellent , thank you.

  • @rossini9mozart10
    @rossini9mozart10 5 років тому +2

    I'm addicted to these videos, really love your work !!

  • @lucadenti7219
    @lucadenti7219 5 років тому +2

    Great video! I advise you to make a video about the use of the IV minor chord.

  • @Legomyegoorj
    @Legomyegoorj 5 років тому +1

    One of the reasons why we call it the Neapolitan 6 chord has to do with its other name in the Music Theory Verse: flat II 6 (bII6). In some ways I prefer this other name because it more clearly conveys the idea of this harmony’s function in a phrase-it is a chromatic inflection of the iio6 in the Minor mode (most commonly). The bass note is the same, and the low form of the submediant (diatonic in Minor, of course) is also the same.
    This also helps to illuminate why it most often appears in 1st inversion rather than in root position. The iio triad (not seventh chord, just the triad) is extremely rare in nature since the fifth above the bass is a dissonant tritone. As such, in Minor, we really only see the iio6 triad, hence the chromatic inflection of that-bII6-is way more common than the root position version of that.
    Yes, I’m aware there are notable exceptions, like in that one C Minor Chopin Prelude everyone plays. It’s a great moment, but in that case the reason it works is because earlier in the piece, a root position Db chord occurs functioning as a predominant within a tonicization of VI. Then, when that Db occurs again in the same sequence as before, we are expecting an Eb chord (as the dominant to Ab) but instead get the G7 as the dominant to C Minor. Great piece.
    Also, although I wrote this long comment about one tiny comment you made about the name of the chord, I liked this video. You used very nice musical examples. What I would also have done is shown some ways that bII6 resolves to V. There’s at least three distinct ways I can think of: straight to V(7), having a viio7 of V in between the Neapolitan and the dominant like Mozart does in the Queen of the Night aria (works because contrary chromatic motion in outer voices), and also resolving to the cadential 6/4 to 5/3, as Mozart does in the A Major piano concerto you showed us.
    Cheers from a music theorist and pianist!

  • @pietrotralongo3655
    @pietrotralongo3655 5 років тому

    Complimenti da Palermo! Wonderful video

  • @johnchessant3012
    @johnchessant3012 5 років тому +3

    The K. 488 example is one of my favorites, too! But I have to admit that the first example of a Neapolitan chord that came to mind was the ending of a Waltz in A-flat major (Act I, No. 2) from Swan Lake. In fact, that instance of the Neapolitan was exactly in the form you showed at 1:50.

  • @montanaricello
    @montanaricello 5 років тому +3

    Great video and great Italian pronounce!

  • @donaldgoodell7675
    @donaldgoodell7675 4 роки тому +5

    Speaking of the Mozart Requiem, why not examine all the weird suspensions and otherworldly Harmonies in the Oro Supplex et Acclinis section (which apparently was just about done hen Constanza (they say) took the score away from him after 20th Nov 1791 when he had become bedridden with an apparent streptococcal infection which caused Rheumatic fever recurrences involving severe swelling of arms and legs...at any rate the lead into the Lacrymosa with the fermatas seem to have been a shortcut of what he might have originally intended (Eybler’s fussy handwriting seems to be involved in the last two bars before the Lacrymosa) - another video to put into your stable of Mozart studies !!

  • @matteogenerani5097
    @matteogenerani5097 5 років тому +2

    Please, do “Best moments from each piece of Bach’s WTC I & II”

  • @tonhettema1005
    @tonhettema1005 4 роки тому +1

    Now, what I find really intriguing is the following: last saturday, the 4th of July 2020, I played on the piano, here in the Netherlands, a few harmonic sequences starting with the 6th cord of e flat major, where the g moves on to a in the bass and the octave plus fifth e flat-b flat-e flat turns into f-a-d = e-a-c sharp and ending in the d- minor chord (wherein, minor key, I find Neapolitan most effective).
    So far no surprises, all perfectly normal (though strangely beautiful)
    BUT..
    Today, monday 6th July, I had a telephone conversation with a friend (on smartphone) and he asked me what I was up to nowadays. I told him I was into the Neapolitan chord progressions and their effect in the sensitive experience of the listener, and what (and where -context-) the use of this surprising diversion causes (and is meant to cause) in the audience.
    So?...
    My question is: how did youtube know to put this video in my 'recommendation list'?
    Do they listen to me in my house playing the piano? (smart devices?)
    Do they listen to me having a phone conversation? (listening in?)
    Does some algorithm predict or know from my watch list that I am going to be interested in Neapolitan sixth chords? (I never... well.. hardly ever watch music video's on youtube) (I don't use facebook or any other social media)
    So, apart from enjoying this video, which reminds me of my days of studying on the Conservatory, I am curious to find out who else got this odd and oblique recommendation in their vid list?
    very Strange.. (Did Penny Lane somehow get into our ears and in our eyes?)

    • @MSNYQ
      @MSNYQ 4 роки тому

      Ton Hettema question: are u using android or apple?

    • @tonhettema1005
      @tonhettema1005 4 роки тому

      @@MSNYQ I use android on a Gigaset mobile phone, whatsapp, gmail, twitter is installed but seldom used, youtube obviously, but no further 'social media'. Does that explain or indicate how it happened?

  • @225dagdx
    @225dagdx 5 років тому +1

    Thank you teacher

  • @nelsonjuliangomezgiraldo7852
    @nelsonjuliangomezgiraldo7852 5 років тому

    Excellent work maestro!

  • @rilke1791
    @rilke1791 5 років тому +1

    You should make a video of you explaining how to avoid composing mistakes and how make your writing better.

  • @galenbrubaker5603
    @galenbrubaker5603 5 років тому +1

    Parts of the second Mozart example really reminded me of Chopin with the way Mozart wrote the piano part

  • @sjorsvanhens
    @sjorsvanhens 5 років тому +1

    Very enlightening

  • @giomejia11
    @giomejia11 5 років тому +1

    Bro, I understand everything, great explication!

  • @lorenzmueller2355
    @lorenzmueller2355 5 років тому +1

    Thanks for pointing out those great examples!
    In German music theory, the standard term is "Neapolitanischer Sextakkord". Most music theorist would be extremely hesitant to simply call the string quintet example a "Neapolitan". The standard explanation consists in claiming that it basically is a minor IV with a flat sixth instead of the fifth (usually pointing out to the fact the chord originated in minor tonalities and subsequently spread to major tonalities). Yet there seems to be more to it; you simply cannot deny its link to a flat II.
    As in many other cases (whats a iii actually??) some aspect of mystery remains :)

  • @Pawel_Malecki
    @Pawel_Malecki 2 роки тому +2

    I think omitting the coda of the 24th concerto is a mistake. The Neapolitan is a major harmonic feature in the whole movement and its piercingly unsettling repeated D-flat defines the eerie harmony of the coda so it is in fact the main device used to give the final impression to the whole piece.
    ua-cam.com/video/NkoEkyFPaX0/v-deo.html

  • @TheCaffeinatedOrganist
    @TheCaffeinatedOrganist Рік тому

    Fantastic work. Thanks

  • @tejasnair3399
    @tejasnair3399 5 років тому

    Thank you so much for these videos.

  • @michaelwu7678
    @michaelwu7678 5 років тому +2

    Dear Mr. Atkinson,
    Would you ever consider doing another video on Mozart’s String Quintet no. 3 in C Major K. 515?
    There is an AbMaj7 chord at bar ~192 that is absolutely one of the most achingly beautiful moments I’ve ever experienced in music.
    Thanks for all the work that you do :)

    • @oneeyemonster3262
      @oneeyemonster3262 5 років тому +1

      it's in a wonderful word by Louis Arm.
      It's in F MAJOR/D min......it'll go A7 into D min.
      Then right after that it's Db/Maj then Db maj7 ( it's sort of an inverted F min)
      Then G min C7 into F Major. ( typical ii, V, I)
      I guess so...dark enchanted nights :-P
      That's what makes the song..that transition or turn around.
      The n6 is common in modern music. ( it's in thousands of famous songs)
      such as Baby I love your way...
      It's in G Major/E min.
      but it'll go C Maj to F7
      Angie by the Rolling stones.
      it's in C Maj/Amin..
      it'll actaully go backwards.lol
      A min....to E7
      Then G sus4
      Then F sus 4 to F maj then Fsus4..then pull of the Bb note into A ( 4th of F)
      Then the C chord.
      The songs has lots of different cadence/fills floating in the background.lol
      Wild horse is in G MAJOR/E min
      The F major is the n6 chord.
      Lips f an An Angel by Hinder.
      in D Maj/B min....
      it'll go D Maj, A Maj, C Maj, G Maj

  • @violinhunter2
    @violinhunter2 5 років тому +3

    The Flute Quartet in D and the Sinfonia Concertante would have been nice choices, too - if you had picked them. Nevertheless, you did choose three of my favorite Mozart masterpieces. Thank you.