Destiny 2 Frontiers: New Raids, Destinations and Campaigns!
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- A new article from Paul Tassi details the content coming to Destiny 2 in Frontiers and beyond! New destinations, raids and campaigns, but on a smaller scale compared to the games normal “Expansions”. Today we break this down and discuss the other projects that were in the works at Bungie, including a third person Destiny adventure game and Project Gummybears (a MOBA/Smash Bro’s Fighting game! Let’s take a look.
Paul’s Article: www.forbes.com...
“Destiny 2 Frontiers”
“Destiny 2 Content Packs”
“Destiny 2 Future”
“Destiny 2 News”
Thanks for watching!
I remember even after forsaken came out months later people still complained that there was nothing to do. The real issue is not the amount of content, It's the quality of the content and the replayability. The core playlist activities have been neglected for so long, that even when you have a really good expansion, things get old real fast, because once you do all the new content, you're going back to core playlist activities, and if those aren't maintained refreshed an innovated, upon. More content will always just be a bandaid.
Exactly the reason I log in almost every week until the story’s done, get my red border weapons and then log off and don’t touch it until next week.
That’s the live service model issue. Just go back to dropping the DLC’s and leave it at that. Also, destiny players need to stop devouring content and living on the game hard-core.
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That's a W take. But also, we got battlegrounds joining the strike list and we got revised strikes and champs and it still wasn't good enough. Ppl just like to complain
thats what made me mad about the lightfall backlash, people tore into microtransactions and the story being terrible, and while it was completely deserved. The fact that people completely ignored the other issues of destiny pissed me off so much. They acted like another witch queen level of quality expansion wouldve made everything fine, well looking at final shape proved that so very wrong. Thats why IMO i dont think WQ or TFS could ever live up to forsaken or ttk, because the quality might be somewhat comparable but they at least overhauled the game, these past 4 expansions havent done anything that actually left a mark. Even 2 new elements werent enough to save the dlcs they came with.
This could be okay for a year, maybe 2 years but that’s pushing it. In 2026 a proper expansion would be great, but behind the scenes something needs to be done to renovate Destiny 2 into a rebranding of just Destiny
I agree if we can get a new big expansion at least every two years this could work really well, it’s similar to what FFXIV does rn actually
@@moe2057 maybe but the series needs a major overhaul. The game is old, I don’t agree with a new game but if it’s possible then a relaunch like what FF14 did could be it.
Get rid 9f the woke losers
Nobody cares weirdo
this is copium and im not falling for it bungie isn't going to do any of that sh!t they are milking your expectation and can't deliver
It takes a special kind of ignorance to be untrusted by your entire workforce of 850 people and not even realize it.
Also the workers will non longer be motivated to work on quality content as there is no point to do that.
@@AntonioCruz-uq3wb good, bungie deserves to fail
For those that are still there and trying, that still love this game, thank you.
These devs deserve our love and support and i hope things make a turn around.
You too, I've been depressed these past few days, but feel a little better today after hearing raids still gonna be a thing
Thank you, good to see not everyone is on the doom gloom train.
Destiny had a solid fan base even if people talk alot of crap about it, it's one of the very few games that lasted so long
We've been through worse as a community. While this certainly isn't great, it isn't as bad as sunsetting. If we can get through sunsetting d2 launch, Curse of Osiris, and the previous layoffs with lightfall and still get a dlc like final shape, we can get through this
Best to look at it like this: Destiny’s main overall story is finished, we’ve defeated a seemingly unstoppable enemy like the Witness, this ensures our future, but there will always be threats, so future stories are smaller in scope, the Episodes for example, new content too, but right now Destiny 2 is honestly at a good basic point. I just hope they make all this new stuff just stick around. I don’t want anything else getting vaulted.
The discussion around Destiny 2 and it’s potential is just hard because of the understanding that there were so many incubating projects that siphoned resources from D2. In my mind, D2 could have had even better expansions had there not been so many other projects simultaneously developing. They could have even updated gambit.
Destiny’s world has ripe potential for a tv series: a short anthology series covering the legends of the Sol system like Saint, Osiris, Cayde, Eris, etc. Or a show where we follow a New Light from D1 to Final Shape. Or a New Light from Red War to Final Shape, with flash backs to past events sprinkled in.
If Bungie needs a year or two to restructure, then I think players would understand that, but without major expansions, I don't know if Destiny can survive for longer than that.
I really want a new darkness subclass, but I don't know if that's in the cards right now.
Not to mention greedy corporate pigs would rather fire half the studio and force game devs to push out half baked content. Honestly bungie should just unionise
That is not possible due to the poor management and staff associated cost. the $3.5Bil injected by SONY was already burned within 2 years of acquisition whichi all we need to know about the state of the studio.
If I were a the new one in charge:
1- I will try to reduce the salaries of all employees to industry standard levels and include generous bonuses proportional to yearly renenue/profits: Some Devs will leave but this will enable the the sustainability of 1000Devs team spread across 3 projects
2- have several titles in Dev: Destiny2, Marathon, Destiny 3 and acquire a company already sustaining a live service complementing Bungie portfolie such as GGG/Path of Exile etc. This enabley Bungie to have diversified revenue stream and not put high pressure on Marathon and Destiny
3- Develop Single player titles and Mobile games to complement the Destiny experience and make a movies or series that will serve as entry point to introduce people to the franchise
With the way things are going, destiny isn’t gonna last 2 years
i personally think they shouldve done that years before ramping up to the final dlc. Because public opinion for the dlc may be good but the player counts say otherwise, it just hasnt been enough. The community is partly to blame for overpraising bungie at times, bungie will drop 1 gem in a pile of shit and the community will rummage through it and hold it up. The witch queen was a great example. The dlc had about 2 positives out of 30 negatives and the community ate it tf up, just like final shape
I want to puke
Destiny books. We have been asking for years at this point to get a book series
is any of the orginial team left to create lore?
or even singplayer story driven spin offs, give me a dark age story we can play
Don't they literally have books on the bungie store?
Have you not heard of the Grimore Anthology? they may be just the lore cards from the game but they are printed books.
@@TimTams_64 nope
I can see much smaller content. If they do like raids or dungerons. It will be much smaller then what we are use to. Or it could be 6 man match activities. Its just tieing up the final ends of destiny 2. I really hope they bring back old content that was vaulted. We will see what the future brings.
we wanted to veer away from pay walling that content this pushes pay walls more thats a problem not a good thing yall put too much faith behind sony blindly
@@fallnplays agree 100 percent. I have zero faith in sony. Just curious what they do. I just hope that they can give us something back considering how bad shape this game was in before going to forsaken. Im like you. Dont have high hopes but trying to remain positive.
@@fallnplaysnon of this is even Sonys fault? This all stems from upper management and just bad handling from bungie
I’m sticking around till they shut down the servers! I’m still hopeful, truly love this game and enjoy running with my squad.
I just hope they add some narrative content. Story is what keeps me coming back, and if they start leaning into Dungeons and Raids almost exclusively, I'll be done, much as that will hurt.
The dlcs should still have a story, according to these same rumors. Schreier also confirmed that the game will still have a story, with new characters and locations.
Why can't we have rise of iron, witch queen, forsaken types of dlc those were great stories and had plenty of content to keep us going
I think 2 things need to happen
1) The CEO and managment need to be either fired or have their pay be re-evlauated to reflect their contributions.
2) destiny needs to take a year or two to fully rework and add in the vaulted stuff. Maby have the vaulted stuff added back in slowly through the 2 years and at the end of that they fully relese an updated version of d2 that is completly reworked and made to be better then before. then take a year with that version and fine tuning before a new dlc gets past the idea stage
Get rid of the woke losers
We need our reclaimed vaulted content and campaigns
@@reggielacey2235 you can't even define woke anymore stfu
@@reggielacey2235weirdo spotted
@@reggielacey2235 shut up dude
This is the first video I’ve seen that gives me a little hope. I’ve always loved Destiny, and hearing about everything made me really sad. I don’t even know what to think. All of my friends have given up on the game, so I’m a solo player now. Thank you for this video.
I'm sticking with it, until I have done all that can be done in the Final Shape campaign and I have discovered (much to my surprise) that I might not have finished properly the previous two campaigns!! So there are things for me to finish and things to discover.
Not gonna like, it doesn’t sound that bad, as long the price is right im in
I'd say maybe like 30$-35$
Yeah honestly, as long as they don’t try to charge the same amount for less content, I’m kinda okay with this. That said, they really, really need to fix the new player onboarding.
Probably around 30? Like Shadowkeep or Rise of Iron.
What i am worry is about the music. Salvatori is no more. I mean, i know there is a lot of talent out there, but Salvatori gave "the escence". On the other Hand, Bungie needs to focus in one Project at time. They doesnt have the same amount of employees and resources like Square-Enix, for ex (That they can develop multiple games, and other projects at the same time)
I'm ok with Bungie having to vault content due to technical limitations, what annoys me is when they do it and provide no compensation for the paid content they just took away from us. Not even so much as a shader or emblem, just nothing.
You know what would fix that so they wouldn't have to vault what you paid for?
Destiny 3
Guys to be honest I'm so scared for bungie with Marathon right now when I first saw the trailer I thought this is going to be the game of all games but when I read that the play testers were not thrilled about and that the new game director did away with customizable character creation my heart sank Idk whats going on behind the scenes right now but I pray they're not making another Apex Clone I want an extraction shooter that's going to blow my mind and make me want to keep coming back something that's not being saturated with thousands of the same thing 😢😢😢😢
I think you already kinda know... I think a TON of Bungie faithful consumers will flock there, but tbh it's not sounding nearly as profitable as Halo or Destiny have been under Bungie. And given recent news, got a feeling Bungie will fall a bit further from grace in the gaming market/industry so to speak.
How are they exactly going to make money (the root of the problem)? More content diverted to eververse? Dungeon passes and/or Raid passes separate from the Season Pass? Upgrades? Or will it be more like Hitman?
It makes so much sense that Verity was a last minute add on. That encounter is so out of left field introducing mechanics unseen in the raid up to that point (ghost revival, combining shapes). Not to mention that the visual design of that encounter is so different. Personally, I love that encounter and I would prefer more like it.
If you look at the concept art for the witness/raid you can clearly see that they cut a bunch of things from the raid. For example: in the 3 encounter we were supposed to fight the witness
...maybe get rid of the dcv and bring back all our strikes too? 👀 Doubtful but I can kinda be hopeful
Sounds like PSO2 style with the hub destinations with just loot and big bosses. I can dig it
60 people made Halo why is it hard to believe over a 1000 can’t make something in a years time
I love when I hear people say we need a D3. One month after a D3 those same people will say there is not enough loot, almost everyone left, not enough activities, and the same dedicated players are playing this game.
And I love when people say we don’t need a D3 then whine and cry that there’s nothing to do in the game and all the content they’ve bought has been sunset but hey, don’t wanna lose all those guns that never come out of your vault, do you? Lmao
@Hazy18 I personally don't use alot of weapons. I 95% of the time play crucible with 50k pvp kills on just 1 gun so I don't complain there's nothing to do either.
This should not be spun as something that can be good. Like come on. They will be giving us less and yet charge the same and I 100% think they are going to increase the cost for the season pass. Being given less and we pay the same can never be seen as “ohh it’s good.” It’s allowing Shitifaction we all lost if that is the case.
the issue is that bungie's mismanagement and didn't create a cohesive budget for all their projects and blew their money and didn't push destiny into a massive multimedia franchise they said they would, wheres the Destiny movie or TV shows they said that Sony opened up to, where's the destiny comics? they are not persuing multiple avenues for making money
I remember the ability to replay old adventure missions from the story if you went to Ikora.
100% this is gonna start good but quickly fall into the cod format i promise you this was sonys plan the entire time
I just want the old planets back :(
I hope frontiers is good
The story is the main reason I play video games get to know characters go on adventures with them fight enemies collect loot and the cutscenes are REALLY AWESOME TO WATCH!!!!!
Marathon better be a banger. They shelved their money maker for a game nobody asked for.
Ok. I'm fine with the free updates that Bungie might be planning for Destiny as a whole. It's what most Free-to-play games, such as Warframe and a few others, do to keep their games alive. However, this is a big one. We need those big DLCs to make sure the game stays afloat. I don't advocate for paying for something that could just have easily been free. But unlike some more popular Free to plays destiny isnt fair free to play and it never will be it's good that we might be getting free updates but the problems is the size and quantity and quality of these updates that are into the light size. That's a bit small and might help the game out for about a single year. The game needs bigger updates
Warframe releases big updates, know what your talking about destiny fanboy now go spend $100 on eververse. LOL
I’ve been playing this game since d1 launch and it’s been a love hate relationship at times but I love this universe and would hate to see it fade away with nothing but negative feedback one day hopefully it will comeback stronger and more powerful than ever
So sad to see the state of this game man
Its not even in a bad state bother! lol dont buy into the hype. dont let the internet tell you how to feel. still funnest shit out.
@@Lambossin Yeah its not even the state of the game its just the state of the company making it. I dont know if the future is bright for bungie
@@Lambossin It's been in a bad state ever since the changes to pvp last season that made it inaccessible to casual players. It also doesnt help that every gun, perk, and exotic armor piece in Destiny is balanced around the idea that it can be used in crucible.
@RicardoGarcia-rp9pw PVP is my main motivation to obtain new loot. So I can use sed loot to beat down other real people
@@Lambossin If you enjoy crucible as it stands then more power to you, but it just feels like a constant de-escalation from the original power fantasy Destiny's pvp used to provide.
Management at Bungie is the real issue. I appreciate the more positive tone in the video. After all, how many times has it been “doom & gloom” for Destiny and the game finds a way back. Personally, I think Destiny 3 would’ve been the smart move from a technical standpoint alone. D2’s build is ancient in technology years & therefore, everything added & updated in that game takes forever for them to do.
It probably knew type of battle passes and a new was to nickel and dime players from cosmetics and content.
We need the 3rd darkness power
Seriously we do. I’m worried we might not get it now…however…*dons tin cap* my money is on the third darkness subclass coming out during the “vampire hunters” episode…since the theme for that one seems to be a little red…I mean I may be entirely off but vampires and darkness nightmare powers do have a few things in common 🤷♂️
what does this fix, lmao?
@@JerrysCousinn Nothing, thats the stuff😎
I’m sick of all the fear mongering from UA-camrs on Bungie so I’m glad someone finally shed some positive light on the subject.
But in short, in the article from Steve himself, he confirmed they are putting all their resources into Destiny and marathon. Which is a good thing. So Destiny isn’t going anywhere and it’s not the end for it. I’m really crossing my fingers and toes that the quality of the story and content remains on point!
Keeping my glass half full on what’s to come! 🤞🏻
Ngl, I still can’t believe how hard they cooked with lightfall. It made me so happy to see my favorite game for literally half of my life get such a good and satisfying ending
Honestly, if all they did for the next two years was raids/dungeons, as well as the occasional seasonal questline with some kind of activity, I'd be fine with that. The only content in Destiny 2 that sets it apart from any other game are the raids/dungeons, so if that's still a main focus then I'm set.
So your telling me No more Winnower And Gardener Story?
Dang. I was hoping that the next saga was going to be about us finally meeting with the Winnower due to the Witness proving the Winnower is real
They essentially stated that due to resources and focuses on Destiny, they're tightly condensing the narrative aspect of things and severely lowering content output. Imagine someone told an epic story, then cut off halfway and said "okay, for the second half of the story, I'm only gonna give you summaries, generalities, and speak in monotone."
So nope. Xivu Arath, whoever "The Second Knife" in the Winnower's hands is, The Winnower, and the evil/darkness allied 5 members of The Nine, the Vex (most boring enemy type imo), and anything threatening outside Sol System.
We aren't getting to most if any of that for sure unless Destiny gets a continuation or soft reboot I'd say at earliest maybe 2027-2028 with everything going on and the incoming sour news.
I appreciate the optimism from these creators, but it's simply not honest or realistic enough and acceptance is a part of learning growing and moving on.
It's been 10 years...That's a huge run for anything in the real world in entertainment and video games. They're not gonna completely nuke Destiny due to its income/profits I think.
But it's effectively done and over.
I'm playing to get my money's worth for the remainder of the TFS year from the deluxe edition annual expansion + season pass.
The drip fed cadence blows severely already, and allowing everyone to blow through each act as each act is released starting in Episode 2 is like going back to a D1 expansion release format and were used to quicker and meatier content releases than The Dark Below now... Player engagement and population will never recover... Just wait for the Paul Tassi video in about a year covering my claims... It's coming, just watch.
I love Destiny! In part, I want it to continue thriving, but the realist in me wants to let it go and accept the more factual business aspect of this product were addicted to.
It's on its way out and that's okay.
I hate to strip hope away and seem like a cynic, but I don't think the optimism is nearly as founded or based as what we know more concretely about player population and the state of the company and the game. The next episodes will be fun but players will drop more than ever. Not enough to do, and this news KILLED player population. I've been solo queuing in strikes alot lately... Good run. Time to end the addiction and look back on fond memories and listen to the soundtrack over the coming years.
I’d be so down if the Dreadnought, Titan, Mars, etc got added back as permanent locations, but changed to fit the current state of the story
I can imagine that this layout could be better, because of the fact that it isn't overloading. Similar to Elder Scrolls Online without the 2 dungeons, maybe the free packs may add old locations and campaign. Hopefully they don't cost too much, and hopefully they don't vault anything now, or make it so that old verisons of the game is playable, maybe a purely single player setup (I doubt it tho).
Paul "The Acolyte Shiill" Tassi...lmao
I know everyone wants the content up front and not weekly but can you imagine doing all the content in a day or two then have 5 weeks to wait minimum? That won’t be good at all
Bring back Calus and let him operate the Leviathan as a ghost in the machine! I'd play those raids over and over again! No complaints...
I think they should go forward with just adding more secret missions and those sort of stuff and that’s exactly they seem to be focusing on
Going all in on roguelike element activities is something I hope they do.
Top the Final Shape? No it would not have made sense to do another large expansion to the game.
I don’t think we needed the next expansion to top the final shape. Only to continue the quality of it. As far as larger content packs I agree it will be on a small scale of something maybe twice as large as into the light, including whatever new raids they say they will do. Which imo I believe it sounds like we will get less quality mechanic raids like root of nightmares. It’s hard to ignore that dark days are here. We have been here before with the beginning of D2’s structure. Hopefully it’s just for now to allow restructure for an eventual overhaul. As for Marathon. I can not in all good faith or heart support that game because of the higher ups ambition to deliver and work their devs to the bone and place blame on their devs for deadlines and not delivering. There’s a whole bunch of should’ve, would’ve, could’ve here that could be stated. For now only time will tell because the backlash from fans and veterans from devs, ex devs, etc. is showing heavy since this second wave of layoffs
Reclaim the Io, Mercury and Mars and Titan planets ?
Bring back past expansions as Legendary Campaigns!!!!!!
I just want to play the red war again
According to leaks, Red War may be returning in Frontiers and other content from the DCV like Curse of Osiris, Warmind and Forsaken. But I would take this with a grain of salt because it’s still going to be a while until Frontiers actually does release
why? it was shit
As someone who has played since d1 day 1 I can honestly say hanging up my hunter cloak was the best choice for me, i no longer enjoy the game and all my friends have moved on its time.
Weird I hate the game and want to play less just because I heard someone on the internet say the CEO is trash.... Do people/ should people act like that at their own wok place too?
Is it kinda meritocracy-ish?
Look I completely disagree with the final shape being some kind of huge Dlc. It isnt even on the level of Witch Queen as far as amount of activites and quests. The Witch Queen was small compared to Foresaken which was near the level of Rise of Iron and Taken King. The Taken King had tons of post campaign content that took place all over the destinations of destiny 1. It brought strike specific loot subclass exclusive weapons and several exotic quests. Bungie was so much smaller back then but pulled of twice the content.
I don’t know anyone that’s going to play Marathon
Definitely disappointed gat there's not already a destiny 3 in the works. Also disappointing that bungie aren't putting priority behind their bread and butter game. They should put the bulk of their efforts in to destiny and then a little into their side projects
once new content has been ran and i reach power cap all i do is repeat GM, Van OP's and anything for pinnacle, ignore for a few days, rinse repeat, apart from occasional farming of raids or dungeons (for gear i already have but want better rolls) there is nothing new to keep me engaged just the desire to power up for a day or two.
I feel like marathon will be a failure and loss for the company to which they realize destiny would’ve been safer to expand upon.
And the teams and people that made Destiny magical have left on their own accord or been fired/laid off.
So even if it makes a comeback it won't be the same.
i would be happy if they bring back the good old Mars.. that was my favourite map
You know I'll take heat for saying this but I'm irritated with the devs saying final shape has to make it or break it and feel like they've been lied to when it still wasn't enough. That is most definitely a management shortfall that needs to be addressed ASAP, however, If you need to be threatened to make great content then I start asking whether you're more committed to the idea of working at Bungie rather than the product you're working on.
Sony : Fine. I'll do it myself.....
The issue was destiny 2 went on too long it should have ended before beyond light then beyond light would be the start of Destiny 3
This is a good 2 year roadmap. Once Concord fails, Sony will pull the plug on Marathon and then D3 will be the main goal for a 2-2.5 year turn around. HYPE!
Concord and Marathon are not related by any means but sure, that’s totally what’s going to happen lol
So does this mean no third darkness subclass?
Yes I'd assume. That would take loads of play testing, development, balancing, weapons attuned to the subclass to be developed, etc.
Not happening.
Finally, a video and an opinion thats mature and measured and not a spiralling whirlpool of negative hyperbolic gamer speak. Thank you for being a voice of calm and rationale. I've been thinking and saying similar stuff to this but everyone wants to insist that the game is dead. Bracing for comment impact.
At least you're optimistic.
We all do various things to cope and tell ourselves everything will be okay.
You might be right. But denial and delusion won't save anyone from the reality about business.
Ever had a job for years, then suddenly see all the top workers and assistant managers up and quit and leave around the same time?
I've seen that with a couple jobs and it's what's happening with Bungie... In addition to layoffs. You see that happening in ANY job and it's a fantastic time to bail bc it means the company is toast. As addicted consumers and gamers, we're quick to defend this hobby where nothing actually is ever truly gained except a refreshing escape for hours on end.
You may be right.
But do you really believe this is far from over? Or do you cling to hope bc alternatives don't seem feasible?
Not trying to sound like The Witness here, but everything reported doesn't bode well for invested fans or the franchise.
Feels like telling an all star football player that broke their spine and shattered their knees that they'll win the superbowl single-handedly within a year of the initial debilitating injuries.
It'll take too much money, time, and a LOT more people on board.
The next couple Episodes will have high points, but we don't even really know how well developed they are or is they're really completely finished. They kinda have to release or Bungie might be sued or have to issue refunds though. And Destiny Frontiers doesn't reality seem entirely guaranteed at this point. Especially after all the recent announcements.
I DON'T WANNA BE RIGHT. But c'mon now... You gotta admit there's just no way it's truly guaranteed at this point as most of the people working on the episodes and Frontiers probably had even a little idea they'd be let go.
Unless Episodes are all always developed, Frontiers ain't happening.
My suggestion? Enjoy the rest of this year's content and give yourself a reassessment on this.
I suspect you'll leave too.
I have been playing this game from red war up till now, it’s really sad to see how management treat this game with so much potential.. If this game comes to and end I’m going to stop playing video games overall, I know there is others out there that I can play but I have invest so much into this. I’m getting older not younger…
if theyre basing everything on the coil i'll probably never play it again.
(Haven’t started this video but i have seen the last video)
I know no man sky isn’t free but just take a moment and look at it. Free updates and story and yet it’s thriving. Every payed season or whatever doesn’t mean it’s gonna be great? Free shit can be great too. Maybe shit to? But who knows? It hasn’t got to that point yet?
Maybe i am saying something different and im dumb but stop thinking shit is gonna be bad if it’s free and small content is gonna be garbage. It’s not always 100% true and guaranteed.
Think positive not negative.
Sony may be the underlying culprit but they aren't about to let this game die. There's too much money to be made and too many dedicated faithful to the series.
I’m taking a break. As an alpha d1 player Pete parsons has me so disheartened with how he manages the company and what he’s done to the makers of our beloved game that I have been playing for 11 years. I lost all motivation to play at the moment. I will most likely pick it up in September. But I just can’t right now.
I haven't trusted Bungie as an entity since Lightfall and was questioning the rationale of all the incubation projects that they announced even before that. Personally, I'm not comfortable with giving another penny to Bungie unless Pete Parsons and Justin Truman are no longer in leadership. I don't want to further enrich people who play games with the livelihoods of the passionate employees who actually break their backs to make Destiny.
To be honest it doesn’t really make sense what they’re trying to do. Annual dlcs have sold less and less each year. Why would they think smaller DLCs that are similar to shadowkeep will bring the game back to life? They’re basically saying that DLCs are going to be smaller and less than what we are used to, and they will follow these small DLCs with updates like into the light. that doesn’t really seem good enough to warrant massive change given where the game is at now
It's hilarious that the one thing Bungie just said "nope" to was Destiny 3 which was the one thing fans wanted the most. Destiny 2 will inevitably die a painful death because the game was fundamentally not built to host a MMO, it was built to be shelved after 2-3 years. They amount of content they can release will be limited, people will lose interest, they'll "vault" more content and new players will never touch D2 because over half the content has been deleted forever.
This is basically the dark below and the house of wolves style content packs. Destiny and bungie is a sinking ship and hopefully those that are smart will get off instead of going down with it.
If it's true that the higher ups really thought "strike team" is what got players excited they are so unplugged. It was the crucible part, that the game finally had at least a known dedicated team to PVP. They are looking worse and worse by the day, and this is getting into I don't know how Sony trusts them to run a business territory
I have friends at bungie, they are doing good and excited for what’s to come. Though this is bad, I think this is the best thing that could have happen to the company. A complete restructure.
Add matching to all activities and allow everyone to play everything and watch your player numbers skyrocket. Y’all act like it is rock science…If I could watch a video to understand the new dungeon Mechanics then log in and click “matchmake and play” I would spend the next few months playing all of the content that I have not been able to touch for the last 3+ years and I am sure there are a huge chunk of people they feel the same🤷🏾♂️
Tell me why I am wrong👇🏾
Good luck trying to find competent people who haven't even stepped foot on endgame stuff
Because no raid or dungeons would be done. Most people who join will look for a carry/sherpa to not do any work meaning the people who put in the work to learn the raid will get frustrated and go back to lfg because matchmaking is full of blueberries with the worst loadouts in an endgame activity. Besides we already have fireteam finder that is all we really need.
Damm people are losing hope because every time I join the tower someone is saying R.I.P destiny shit sad me…
Honestly it doesn’t sound terrible but how is it gonna work if they are free? I doubt eververse will keep them afloat
Just remake all old raids campaigns dungeons . But make them harder while waiting for new content please 🙏
So we are going back to D1 expansion packs to then get DLC's and then we repeat the WHOLE timeline of events and seasonal content returns....This is the Final Shape. SMH bungie
"less than players are used to"
We already get basically nothing
You aren’t obligated to like what we get but this is objectively untrue. Compare what gets added to this game every year to what gets added to literally any other first-person shooter game in existence. Like, seriously dude.
Valorant gets like 1-2 maps and 2-3 agents per year, like 1 gamemode irregularly when riot feels like it, and that’s literally it other than their $60 weapon skins or whatever.
Apex legends gets like 2-3 weapons and 2-3 legends a year and a map like every other year.
Halo infinite gets… like basically nothing lmao. But to be fair, that one gets blasted for its lack of content all the time.
Overwatch gets the occasional new characters and maps, and also they tried that PvE mode thing for a bit? Idk.
Now like, seriously, compare that to just what D2 has gotten in the past 3 months with ITL, TFS, and Echoes. We got dozens of new weapons, a new gamemode in Onslought, 3 new PvP maps, a new open world location, reworks to old secret missions (Whisper and Zero Hour) as well as a new one (Dual Destiny) with possibly another one on the way in a few weeks, a pretty damn good campaign, a really big raid, a 12-player activity, a huge amount of added variety in subclass customization, and way more. Most first person shooters nowadays would be lucky to even launch with that much content, much less add all of it in live-service updates years after launch over the course of 4 months.
@@yourewrong9028 "Compare what gets added to this game every year to what gets added to literally any other first-person shooter game in existence." That's great now compare each DESTINY expansion to each DESTINY expansion. Every year gets far and far less content, and they literally confirmed we're getting less even now, but as always this community will bend over to defend it. I am getting completely tired of these people that I can almost guarantee started in the last 4 years defending the pathetic content we get because they never lived through this series golden years
@@endborg90 I reject the idea that you can’t compare this game to other shooters. You said we get basically nothing; that is objectively not the case. No other FPS dev pumps out a volume of content even remotely comparable to that of Bungie’s.
And either way, you’re STILL wrong. It’s just not the case that each year gets less and less content. Every year since year 2 (Forsaken) has had less content than year 2, but that’s about it tbh and I’m not going to blame Bungie for not being able to make another Forsaken every year. Year 4 had significantly more content than year 3 and years 5 and 6 had about the same amount of content as year 4 if not slightly more. This year looks to have slightly more content even than those, though that hinges largely on whether or not they decide to reprise another old raid for me and a lot of people.
@@yourewrong9028 I never compared it to another shooter beforehand, YOU DID to try and astroturf the point being made, you are entirely disingenuous.
@@endborg90 And you didn’t compare to prior years in your original comment either, you just said we get “basically nothing”. My point was that in the current climate of fps gaming, Destiny does not get “basically nothing”. If you think that’s being disingenuous I have no idea what to tell you.
Also, if your argument is that we get way less currently than we did back in 2018, then like, yeah, damn, you aren’t getting an argument from me there. Forsaken had 2 whole ass destinations, a like 12 mission campaign, and a 6 encounter raid, and then 2 of the following 3 seasons ALSO had new raids. Obviously it’s way more content than we’re likely to ever get again.
But you’re also delusional if you think we got significantly less content in Lightfall’s year than Beyond Light’s or Shadowkeep’s. If you want me to flat out do that comparison, then fine:
In Shadowkeep’s year (year 3), we got:
Armor 2.0 system and finishers
A returning destination (the moon)
A super small and short campaign with a decent sized post campaign involving nightmare hunts and Eris’s Nightmares
1 special event on-destination (altars of sorrow)
2 New strikes (Scarlet Keep and Festering Core)
1 New Raid (Garden of Salvation)
2 Dungeons (Pit of Heresy and Prophecy)
5(?) returning crucible maps and 1 new one.
15 exotic weapons, 4 exotic armor per class
A spattering of seasonal activities (Vex Offensive, moon vex invasions, Sundial, Seraph Towers, Seraph Bunkers, Contact public event, Interference weekly mission)
The only thing this year really has on other years is the number of community and live events. It had Corridors of Time, Empyrean Foundation, The Lie quest, the Almighty event, and the Traveler healing event as BL launched. That was cool, I guess, but that’s pretty much it.
Next let’s look at Beyond Light’s year:
Stasis subclasses.
A new destination (Europa) and parts of a returning destination (Cosmodrome).
A mid sized campaign and actually quite a lot of post-campaign content involving stasis, empire hunts, the bray family, and Exos.
Rotating Eclipsed zone and Exo Challenge on destination
2 new strikes and 3 reprised ones
1 new raid (deep stone crypt) and one returning raid (VoG).
No dungeons.
No crucible maps (ouch, that’s where the dry spell started).
13 exotic weapons and 4 exotic armor per class.
A spattering of seasonal activities (Wrathborn hunts, Cabal Battlegrounds, Override, Expunge, Astral Alignment, Shattered Realm)
2 exotic quests (Presage, Harbinger)
If you count the 30th pack as part of this year then add a dungeon, dares of eternity, and 2 exotic weapons.
What really hurt about this year was that they vaulted more than they added. But all in all it was roughly the same amount of content as the prior year if not more, though the lack of crucible content was definitely terrible for that side of the community.
Now let’s look at Lightfall’s year here:
Strand subclasses
1 new destination (Neptune)
A pretty long (though narratively bad) campaign along with significant post campaign content (winterbite, final warning, and deterministic chaos quests)
Rotating vex incursion zone and partition mission
Terminal overload special public event
1 new strike (hypernet) and 2 reworked ones (the EDZ ones)
1 new raid (root) and 1 returning raid (crota)
2 new dungeons (ghosts of the deep and warlord’s ruin)
1 new crucible map and 2(?) returning ones
15 exotic weapons (including either quicksilver storm or tesselation) and 4 exotic armor pieces per class
A spattering of seasonal activities (Defiant Battlegrounds, Salvage, Deep Dives, Altars of Summoning, Savathûn’s spire, Imbaru Engine, The Coil, Riven’s Lair)
2 exotic missions (Avalon and Starcrossed)
If Into the Light is included here, add Onslaught, Pantheon, the exotic mission reworks, and 3 crucible maps.
I would do Witch Queen but this has already taken more than long enough.
Regardless of what you choose to include in each of these years, I do not see this supposed pattern of decline year after year. There was a significant drop off after Forsaken, granted, but if anything it seems to me that there has been a slight increase in the overall rate of content delivery since 2020.
Make every gun in the game craftable and watch people spend the rest of their lives grinding red borders across all the games content.
I really hope there will be mobile version soon that would be the only game on my phone
The only way to keep the rest of the studio employed is to keep playing. Pete will always be ok and he'll just move to another company but not the rest of Bungie...the people that actually care and are trying to take care of their families
Hey man how you been?
I KNEW the dread were last minute additions. I could fucking feel it. Honestly, the devs don't deserve anything, but the people captaining the ship definitely made this fucking happen. It was always going to happen. Destiny has been a disappointment for so long, they did it to themselves.
I heard there were no new campaigns just an intro mission and that’s about it
That’s apparently for the free seasons, not the dlc.
i think menagerie is coming back tho
we need a destiny manga fr
I needed this vid, thx
I can only see further layoffs and destiny 2 as we know it gone. I don't see myself personally investing much time let alone $$$ into a failing franchise. So sad to see. I never thought I would see this happen but I definitely was more mind changing after the first layoffs and even moreso now. Business is business and investing in a failing business is not too smart.
If the CEO didn’t have 368 something cars then they’d have assets to spare but noooo Pete is like “I NEED VROOM VROOM! HAHA BYE BYE!! 👶👶”
If Destiny continues to generate revenue and Sony's other ventures into live service under perform, I can see them approving Destiny 3.
it seems like bungie doesn’t like to commit to one thing for too long. the abandoned halo now destiny
I mean, “too long” it was 10 years. Seems like a decent chunk of time at the end of the day lol
@@davida1229 that can’t go on forever
@@namedcrawdad that's the truth about live service games
Get rid of the ceo, Sony take over100%= everything is going to be okay
oh please don't
I know i saying this because it a common, but have they always have plans to big releases. My question is when there going to bring destiny to a whole new legacy or a new era. I know im being a hater right now, but i getting a bit tired.