What Did Medieval People Think Of The Pyramids?

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  • The pyramids of Egypt have fascinated visitors for thousands of years since their creation. They dominate the landscape and are impossible to ignore. But just as long as people have looked upon them, they have also come up with all sorts of ideas as to what they were used for. Medieval Europeans were no different, and although fewer of them were familiar with Egypt's pyramids, those who did see them or heard of them were no less willing to speculate as to their origins.
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    -Demus, Otto. The Mosaics of San Marco in Venice. II: The
    Thirteenth Century (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 1984).
    -Osborne, John L. "Peter's Grain Heap: A medieval view of the 'Meta Romuli.'" Echos du Monde Antique/Classical Views 30 (1986):111-18.
    -Wilkinson, John. Jerusalem Pilgrims before the Crusades (Warminster, Eng.: Aris & Phillips, 1977).
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  • @WaterShowsProd
    @WaterShowsProd 6 місяців тому +27

    Very interesting. I love the idea that they even thought it would have been practical to haul the grain up to the top of the pyramids and pour it in through the top. Also: I never knew about the pyramids of Romulus and Remus before.

    • @studiumhistoriae
      @studiumhistoriae  6 місяців тому +6

      It certainly would have been quite the task!

  • @roundninja
    @roundninja 6 місяців тому +15

    But has anyone ever checked if maybe the pyramids used to be full of grains before it all got eaten by one really hungry guy?

    • @studiumhistoriae
      @studiumhistoriae  6 місяців тому +3

      Shhhh... don't tell anyone... I'm the hungry guy

  • @jaanth314
    @jaanth314 6 місяців тому +21

    Ben Carson confirmed civilization player.

    • @ghostpasha9076
      @ghostpasha9076 6 місяців тому +3

      Specifically, Civ 2

    • @jaanth314
      @jaanth314 6 місяців тому +2

      @@ghostpasha9076 I wish one of the candidates would run on a platform of building a spaceship to Alpha Centauri.

    • @ghostpasha9076
      @ghostpasha9076 6 місяців тому

      LOL hell yes@@jaanth314

  • @kenyonmoon3272
    @kenyonmoon3272 6 місяців тому +20

    This is not a common belief in the church. For doctrinal purposes the story of Israel in Egypt is assumed to be literal, or at least an amalgamation of experiences, but the graineries are not thought to be identified on our end of the timeline - either we simply haven't recognized them or they've been lost to time.
    Carson's position on the matter is not unheard of, but it is not one you should expect to encounter regularly within the denomination.

  • @Jimmylad.
    @Jimmylad. 6 місяців тому +21

    Why was the pyramid in the Vatican dismantled?

    • @studiumhistoriae
      @studiumhistoriae  6 місяців тому +21

      To make way for new constructions. Specifically I believe they were building a new bridge across the Tiber river. This is around the same time that they were building the new (current) Saint Peter's basilica, so there was a lot of new construction projects going on in that area at the time.

    • @studiumhistoriae
      @studiumhistoriae  6 місяців тому +18

      Modern archeologists have actually found the old foundations of the pyramid so they know exactly where it used to be

  • @laserspear22
    @laserspear22 6 місяців тому +5

    Great video! Loved the John Osborne insight and Al Muqaddimah shout out. Subscribed

  • @laurisafine7932
    @laurisafine7932 6 місяців тому +3

    Nicely put together, thanks.

  • @j-mez6956
    @j-mez6956 6 місяців тому +6

    Fantastic video

  • @JaelaOrdo
    @JaelaOrdo 6 місяців тому +2

    Great video 👍🏾

  • @laub847
    @laub847 11 днів тому

    Such an interesting subject

  • @100crisps
    @100crisps Місяць тому

    You ask some wonderful questions in your titles

  • @f23as
    @f23as 6 місяців тому +3

    Governor, the city granary is now empty...

  • @TriBgarage
    @TriBgarage 6 місяців тому +13

    Very interesting, really the scary thing is, how many people blindly assept false truths, just because who said them. You can say actual facts no longer matter in public opinion in some groups. And how each group say it's the other one that is lying, it can't be their side. I like how you say both opinions, and how they come to them, rather then just say your opinion, and that the other guy is wacky.

    • @Dowlphin
      @Dowlphin 6 місяців тому

      This is primitive psychology that has always been a part of humankind. Tribalist mind.

  • @hypokratesthehypocrite3513
    @hypokratesthehypocrite3513 6 місяців тому +1

    Do you ever plan on doing a video about the Moors?

    • @studiumhistoriae
      @studiumhistoriae  6 місяців тому +2

      I will certainly get to talking about them eventually!

  • @jammysmears4077
    @jammysmears4077 2 місяці тому +1

    I reckon the pyramids simply reminded people of piles of grain and the various legends grew up separately from similar ideas.

  • @vickibamman8333
    @vickibamman8333 6 місяців тому +4

    Babylon was the name the ancient Romans had for Old Cairo? First time I heard that - what is your source?

    • @MatthewTheWanderer
      @MatthewTheWanderer 6 місяців тому

      Yeah, no kidding, that makes no sense at all! The Romans knew where Old Babylon in Mesopotamia was! And they ruled all of Egypt, too. It wasn't technically a foreign place that only pilgrims went to.

    • @studiumhistoriae
      @studiumhistoriae  6 місяців тому +9

      For one, that's the name used in the pilgrim's letters that I mentioned in the video, and several of the later sources call it Babylon even after the official foundation of Cairo in the 10th century. The sources I have included in the video's description also mention this if you want to take a look at them.
      The Romans built a fort near Memphis called Babylon (obviously named after Mesopotamian Babylon, with which they were familiar) and over time this fort would become the center for several towns which would eventually become Cairo. Pilgrims often sailed down to Babylon and noted that the pyramids were right across the Nile from it.
      I hope that clears up any confusion. I glossed over it quickly in the video, but maybe I should have said a little more about it.

    • @johnoparinde2682
      @johnoparinde2682 Місяць тому

      I would also recommend “The Great Arab Conquests” by Hugh Kennedy. It’s okay if you’re surprised, I was confused by it at first too.

  • @user-sj4ll7dw8o
    @user-sj4ll7dw8o 2 місяці тому +1

    Building a large pyramid takes decades. People had starved before it is ready. I have been in Giza. Those 3 pyramids are clearly graves. Inside pyramid is suprisingly hot.

    • @burner555
      @burner555 2 місяці тому

      >surprisingly hot
      They're essentially giant rocks in the desert, of course they're hot

    • @controlledsingularity8084
      @controlledsingularity8084 2 місяці тому +1

      Depends. I am willing to bet deep in they are cold af, as any cave is.

    • @chombus2602
      @chombus2602 Місяць тому +1

      But according to Joseph's story, the grain storages were built well in advance

  • @Toksyuryel
    @Toksyuryel Місяць тому

    Would that much grain even remain edible for seven years if stored like that? There are so many holes in this story XD

    • @chombus2602
      @chombus2602 Місяць тому

      Well, logically, 4000 years ago, they were not as they are today. Today, all we have are their "structural skeletons", so to speak

  • @ethanator4051
    @ethanator4051 Місяць тому

    The peasants trying not to die from plagues, wars and poor harvests: I beg your pardon, What on gods green middle-earth is a pyramid?

  • @nevetstrevel4711
    @nevetstrevel4711 2 місяці тому +1

    Duh they got the idea from civilizations 2

  • @SaltyChickenDip
    @SaltyChickenDip Місяць тому +1

    Ben Carson is interesting dude was a genius in neurosurgery. But it seem like he did whst a lot of smsrt hyper specialized people do and assume thier intelligence means they know a lot about everything else.

  • @stephfoxwell4620
    @stephfoxwell4620 3 дні тому

    Not a lot.
    The vast majority never travelled and were not educated.
    There were no books.

  • @veronicatash777
    @veronicatash777 6 місяців тому

    A bit of a correction needs to be made. A claim that the pyramids were granaries is a claim made at least as late as 2015, when Ben Carson claimed such and stood by his claim.

    • @elfarlaur
      @elfarlaur 6 місяців тому +2

      You may want to rewatch the first 30 seconds of the video. I'm not really sure how you missed that

    • @drdca8263
      @drdca8263 2 місяці тому

      @@elfarlaurI think the “correction” comment is a joke?

  • @jasemamen2522
    @jasemamen2522 6 місяців тому +2

    Roman name for old Cairo ⁉️⁉️⁉️
    .
    Cairo wasn’t existed at that time time ⁉️

    • @thiagolourenco4020
      @thiagolourenco4020 6 місяців тому

      en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylon_Fortress

    • @thiagolourenco4020
      @thiagolourenco4020 6 місяців тому

      I think he meant that. It's not a city tho

    • @studiumhistoriae
      @studiumhistoriae  6 місяців тому +8

      Cairo originated out of a Roman fort called Babylon. Over time the fort would become a town and that town would eventually become Cairo, but it continued to be called Babylon for a while

  • @CartoonHero1986
    @CartoonHero1986 6 місяців тому +2

    Rationalist: Modern science shows us the Pyramids at Giza were built around 2500 BCE and the time of Joseph in Egypt is set around 1875 BCE so this claim of them being Joseph's Granaries is something made up by people from a time without the facts, education, and technology to make this connection.
    Literalist: Nuh-uh! Because the Bible says this, and a Biblical Scholar while reading the Bible and attempting to link it to real world events and locations says they HAVE to be the Granaries!
    Rationalist: You do see the flaw in that logic right?
    Literalist: What flaw, I see no flaw!

  • @Angie2343
    @Angie2343 6 місяців тому

    @studiumhistorian Interesting!
    I'm trying to subscribe but it won't let me!