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  • @Minsleif
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    • @NightmareRex6
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    • @ir298presk
      @ir298presk 24 дні тому +1

      Ew gay shipper

    • @Beelzebullying
      @Beelzebullying 23 дні тому

      I love you Minsleif. Please marry me! 🥺

  • @IshimurA99
    @IshimurA99 Місяць тому +155

    Aventurine's story can be said to be the best example of "no matter who you are, whether you are a commoner or a noble, a hero or a villain, you will always be a human being."

    • @ScarletRxses
      @ScarletRxses Місяць тому +9

      "Despite everything, it's still you."

  • @idontspeakjapanese6289
    @idontspeakjapanese6289 Місяць тому +162

    If you think about it Aventurine manage to escape slavery just to end as a slave again for the IPC, but then again Jade gave him a lending hand so in a way Jade was his sugar mommy and kinda his savior.
    And also one thing to point out that a lot of people are speculating the Gaiathra is just another local name for Ena the Order

    • @koothic_j
      @koothic_j Місяць тому +19

      i actually agree with ena the order being gaiathra triclops since ena technically has three eyes (two on THEIR face and the big eye to THEIR left). additionally, the big eye has the same exact color scheme and pattern as the avgin eye.

    • @p1p3B0mber
      @p1p3B0mber Місяць тому +11

      I'm not sure if Jade truly rescued him. Her specialty is credit so Aventurine has to pay her back for everything she gave him (plus she told him he shouldn't resist his master no matter what).

    • @idontspeakjapanese6289
      @idontspeakjapanese6289 Місяць тому +5

      @@p1p3B0mber I mean the only reason why he is still alive in the first place is because of Jade, if it weren't for her bro's head would be rolling on the floor already and will be no longer playable, so in a sense she did saved him from death but with a condition.
      That's what money lenders like Jade do, they will help people but there's always a catch

    • @vadersreign
      @vadersreign Місяць тому

      jade has a savior complex for certain

    • @Blitz_McSticks
      @Blitz_McSticks Місяць тому +5

      Gaiathra Triclops being Ena makes sense since Aventurine says that the Harmony took everything from his people, and apparently The Harmony absorbed The Order which might have caused the people of Sigonia to fall into ruin

  • @kopikomixx
    @kopikomixx Місяць тому +74

    a common misconception ive seen of aventurine when he was first introduced was when people were comparing him to childe, which is really unfair for both aventurine and childe when you understand their motivations beneath the surface of their confident persona

    • @zerotodona1495
      @zerotodona1495 Місяць тому +15

      I think his base is childe but they are extremely two different fellas. They do both love battle but childe enjoys blood shed while aven loves gambling. Both don’t care about their lives though.
      The mask doesn’t help too lol

    • @kao1613
      @kao1613 Місяць тому +5

      Hell no, childe is freaking insane, he's so empty inside he only seeks violence and pointless battling to feel something. How can people even consider comparing Aventurine with that? He might have this mask sometimes but it was all to survive, he has suffered so much you can't even compare their troubles. Also Aventurine showed such a vulnerable and emotional side, something that childe has never done and probably never will (no, acting like a reckless fool to keep a spoiled child away from reality is not it).

    • @nameless1767
      @nameless1767 Місяць тому +17

      @@kao1613 uhhhh I think u don’t understand childe either that’s like… fanon childe than canon childe, childe likes challenges and fighting so he doesn’t like fighting the weak, he also cares a LOT for his siblings and he’s def not empty inside just coz he got no light in his eyes 😭

    • @peachybunOJO97
      @peachybunOJO97 Місяць тому +15

      ​​@@nameless1767 also im sure childe didnt actually had the best of times in thw abyss. So he has went trough some too

    • @Marilynn_1275
      @Marilynn_1275 Місяць тому +2

      Agreed.

  • @ArchonKujo
    @ArchonKujo Місяць тому +214

    I understand on why people would dislike Aventurine at first, but after knowing his backstory, I can definitely understand why you can rearrange your opinion towards him, though I find his demeanor kind of cool tbh.

    • @idontspeakjapanese6289
      @idontspeakjapanese6289 Місяць тому +11

      One of the main reason as well is because he is part of the IPC, which even players really hate because it's the game's version of the IRS

    • @GuyWithAnAmazingHat
      @GuyWithAnAmazingHat Місяць тому +7

      Straight up I don't like anyone related to the IPC, but I like them as characters and is interested in all lore. IPC corrupted the path of Preservation, using their Aeon's influence to form intergalactic super capitalism, everyone involved are corrupted and/or are victims. The one least disliked is probably Asta as she's basically just using her family's IPC old money for better use, supporting scientific study on Herta's station.
      But I also do not like Qlipoth, as they isolate planets and cut them off from the universe, the exact opposite of Trailblazing.

    • @RetroGhost16
      @RetroGhost16 Місяць тому +2

      ​@@GuyWithAnAmazingHat yeah it's interesting that qulipoth even let the IPC work with their power at all considering the IPC does the complete opposite of what the Propagation wants and harms people in the process even destroying worlds like we learned about during Topaz's quest. I honestly think the whole situation that Qulipoth is in sounds like a plot that Aha would employ as a joke towards Qulipoth.

    • @mukhliszharfan
      @mukhliszharfan 26 днів тому

      ​@@idontspeakjapanese6289 I don't know why but I always thought the IPC as the UK, and penacony as Australia. Cause y'know, Australia used to be a place UK's prisoners of war.

  • @architect_avian7329
    @architect_avian7329 Місяць тому +33

    I loved Aventurine when I first met him. He had this air about him that made me want to know more about him because of his flamboyant bravado. He came off as someone who knew more or was hiding something. I'm so happy I wasn't disappointed at all, and he's become one of my favorite characters.

  • @Michelle-kn1nc
    @Michelle-kn1nc Місяць тому +40

    I actually found Aventurine very interesting and I wanted to learn more of him even if I don't play Honkai star rail

  • @hello-lz4xj
    @hello-lz4xj Місяць тому +8

    I only came into hsr bc I saw the final victor ad and was like, "I SHIP IT" so yea aventurine's my wallpaper and I don't even have the game. I needed this, thank you

  • @IshimurA99
    @IshimurA99 Місяць тому +36

    When we first met Aventurine, most people hated him for what he was doing, but after seeing his backstory, it made everyone sympathize and love him more, Aventurine's story was really great from the beginning until it temporarily ended

  • @Zero_TheImaginator
    @Zero_TheImaginator Місяць тому +18

    Daaang, I was wrong about this man, this dude wanted to show these people that dying exists in the Dreamworld, and giving me a different point of view on the family of penacony
    Can you make a video preparing us for what to expect in wuthering waves?

  • @StarlitSiren
    @StarlitSiren Місяць тому +24

    I was 100% an Aventurine defender from day 1 (even to the point of going full yume with my love for him ahah)
    He as a character was something that I really caught onto super fast as it's easy for me to catch onto if there is something underlying in what a person says, so I was definitely like "Oh. Oh dear. There seems to be some self worth issues in here somewhere." And despite the hate I saw I sat quiet and held on to see what 2.1 would bring and wow did I feel vindicated (At a price of a splitting headache post-crying AHAH!). Aventurine as a character was purposefully (and pretty nicely) written to catch people off guard, even his VA said he felt like he was successful in his intent when people told him their initial reaction to the character. He is a character that for some is a character that is written in a way that hits that "love to hate" spot people like for morally ambiguous characters, and without a doubt he won the hearts of SO many. This whole video was edited so nicely and hit the nail on so many great things, nicely edited too, even got me a little teary eyed when the one bgm from 2.1 started playing. Thank you for the amazing content as always Minseif 🥺💙

  • @superherofan9425
    @superherofan9425 Місяць тому +4

    I was one of the Aventurine haters at the very beginning if I am 100% honest: the way he came into the Trailblazer's room and was all weird and calling them 'friend' gave me the heebie jeebies. As the quest continued, I actually started to like Aventurine more and more, and now he is in the top 3 of favourite characters in HSR. It's almost funny how fast I changed my tune haha. Thanks for the video!!

  • @scrappy_horns8139
    @scrappy_horns8139 22 дні тому +2

    Imagine if Aventurine meets Bennett…will their luck cancel eachother? 😂

  • @rippleinkstudios
    @rippleinkstudios Місяць тому +4

    Thank you for putting this up. Honkais recent story was a bit hard for me to keep up. Especially it was a bit wild But this actually helped!! Thank you @Minsleif!!

  • @foxianjade
    @foxianjade Місяць тому +1

    AVENTURINE LORE VIDEO, LETS GOOOO!!! THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS, I love him so much and I wanted a video like this for so long 😭😭🙏🏼 LOVED this video!! I teared up again when I saw the Acheron slicing scene, ty for that 😂

  • @sponge6044
    @sponge6044 3 години тому

    his whole story just sounded like yap to me thank you for this

  • @damb1858
    @damb1858 Місяць тому +7

    Acheron being the emanator of Nihility has somewhat of an indirect influence about Aventurine's portions during 2.1
    Acheron is a variant Raiden Mei whose is equally as powerful I'm sure in HI3rd but is forever haunted by her failure of saving her homeworld
    Aventurine is blessed by the Giathra but is haunted, being the sole survivor of the Avgin clan due to the IPC's failed emergency response
    Aventurine ponders what the meaning of life is if you are a blessed or powerful individual yet if you couldn't do enough to protect those you cared about. His plan to stage his own death via Acheron aka the Emanator of Nihility live for all of Penacony to witness would be his final gambit to at least provide purpose for the IPC before dying, while also repaying the support that Jade gave him. After that, he would be brought to Nihility aka the afterlife to reunite with his family & his clan
    Acheron however does set his mind straight after his questions along with Dr. Ratio's advice to give him a newfound motivation to keep going & get to the real Penacony.
    Aventurine is a certified Honkai GOAT. Shaoji does it again lol

  • @aishas8025
    @aishas8025 8 днів тому

    Hey minsleif I really would love to see your playthrough of the last penacony quest. I realized you don’t have any of your past streams up and would love to watch!

  • @yoshi51555
    @yoshi51555 Місяць тому +2

    I am so in love with this man it ain't even a joke

  • @JothPlays
    @JothPlays Місяць тому +2

    Not me bawling for the recap why his music is playing in the background. 😭😭😭

  • @brogamer_yuri
    @brogamer_yuri Місяць тому +3

    The entire lore in 8 minutes? God.

  • @blep5940
    @blep5940 Місяць тому +1

    thank you, i skipped all the dialogues but i still wanted to know what on earth happened😭😭

  • @kiranananaa
    @kiranananaa Місяць тому +34

    my response to that thumbnail: BASED ‼️‼️
    i just want to comment before watching the video 😂

  • @raikumokun5595
    @raikumokun5595 Місяць тому

    Ty Min, I've been waiting for this🙏

  • @qiningeng5114
    @qiningeng5114 Місяць тому

    First things first
    HAPPY BIRTHDAY AVENTURINEEEEEEEE (technichally May 5th would be more lore accurate in his splash art but we celebrate both days)
    I LOVE the fact you have captions because secret late night video watching so I can watch videos as if I am deaf
    And why... 2 characters that gone through Furina treatmenttt ily them so much

  • @huanglogs
    @huanglogs Місяць тому +15

    another banger from minsleif, and i know bangers

    • @ArchonKujo
      @ArchonKujo Місяць тому

      And this video started nearly a minute ago

    • @huanglogs
      @huanglogs Місяць тому

      @@ArchonKujo yooo follow me for more bangers 🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @Anna-re8kj
    @Anna-re8kj 24 дні тому

    I have loved Aventurine from the very beginning.

  • @triuberit
    @triuberit Місяць тому

    Smooth ad insert

  • @TinkRomero
    @TinkRomero Місяць тому +1

    With there still being so much to know about how Paths work, I wonder if perhaps, Gaiathra Triclops HERSELF is a Path? Kakavasha was born on a very specific day making his mother belief he’s born extraordinarily lucky and blessed by Gaiathra Triclops, and … this appears to be the case! But how? Well, Sigonia doesn’t have the Aeon belief system, instead they believed in their own Goddess. Recently Hoyoverse has made it abundantly clear that Aeons go by They/Them, and have even capitalized on this fact … literally, but they also did the same to Gaiathra Triclops, while addressing Gaiathra Triclops’s identity as HER, perhaps to clue us in that HER existence is as true as other Aeons, but HER existence still isn’t on the level of Aeons, it’s on a different level, the level of a Path. Gaiathra Triclops is the result of a worlds belief, and Kakavasha’s birth is surrounded by the belief of Gaiathra Triclops. Is it possible that Sigonia was able to create some kind of worldwide Path with their beliefs, if so, then there really is a lot more to learn about Paths.
    So, is it possible that Kakavasha/Aventurine is blessed by the Path of Gaiathra Triclops, an Aeonless Path?

  • @kao1613
    @kao1613 Місяць тому +1

    Wait, are we really still waiting for March 7th backstory? I thought it was settled back in the Xianzhou Luofu that she doesn't care about her past that much anymore because she is now a traiblaizer, founds a new family and purpose?
    Anyway, I also loved Aventurine's backstory. There were some bits of the timeline that got me a little confused but i understood watching your video, thank you!

  • @cloudy_rose3115
    @cloudy_rose3115 Місяць тому +3

    I don’t play HSR because of storage (eff u Genshin) but I’m drawn in by the characters and storyline. I can’t wait to watch more of your videos about the lore! 🥰

  • @WAWA-qz9kg
    @WAWA-qz9kg Місяць тому

    LETS GOOOOO MINSLEIF HSR VIDEO

  • @alicesck01
    @alicesck01 Місяць тому +7

    I believe we should let people have their opinions own about the characters as they want, everyone takes as they feel like during their gaming experience. I never hated Aventurine, the only thing i hate about him, it's that he never came home, lost to himeko, but, since his first appearance, I loved his cunning personality, to me he is smart a f, as he did a magistral way to achieve his goals and he keeps his dignity until the end, even if Hoyo will always prefer put the waifus in a better light or show them more "cooler" as they did and always will do with Acheron on the scenes, he still steals the spotlight in my eyes, as his dialogues and monologues got me hooked even more, to me he was the embodiment of majestic ...but well, I'm a sus to talk about husbandos, i love all of them, even Sampo hated as he is by others makes me want to E6 him ... now .. waiting for the cowboy 🤠

  • @lukespetschanel
    @lukespetschanel Місяць тому

    Welp i kinda wonder if archeron literally cut the connection of adventurine with the corner stone because he had the corner stone shatter it to fuse with him and use up all its power and after the cut she deliver the connection between the corner stone and adventurine that he fuse got cut and he was send to the other site with out connection of out side because how the family works they want to conclea it and because of that there is no connection to outside world anyway and only via family can connect to outside world tahts is my theory so far it can be wrong lwts just wait

  • @smallermilk
    @smallermilk Місяць тому

    i'm a proud day 1 aventurine lover

  • @TheLionFireGod
    @TheLionFireGod Місяць тому +1

    I never been wrong before

  • @colllinlo-4652
    @colllinlo-4652 Місяць тому +2

    I actually thought aventurine was funny because he always acted like he was soooo mysterious and it was lowkey cringe, but he wasn’t the only character like that. Majority of the characters of penacony acted like that. I mean I didn’t hate it, but it made me laugh when they kept trying to be all cryptic around trailblazer who had literally no idea what was happening 💀😭

  • @annvu7530
    @annvu7530 Місяць тому

    i've never been this early before, but for aventurine, it is worth it.

  • @Oriacey
    @Oriacey Місяць тому +1

    I'm not wrong for hating him, I hated him because of his boss fight but at least that fight got me to actually build characters.

  • @snapedu9166
    @snapedu9166 Місяць тому

    I loveeee ur summary video's ❤❤❤

  • @sakumarei03
    @sakumarei03 Місяць тому +2

    I fell in love with him since his call with Topaz, long ago before his first appearance at 2.0.
    2.0 for me just introduce him and all penacony charas, so after i knew his backstory will revealed at 2.1, i know i will cry and really cried. He suffering for so long, he need hug. Lots.

  • @elasticdancer
    @elasticdancer Місяць тому +1

    I've actually been obsessed with him since I first heard him talking to Topaz over the phone in that one trailblazer mission. I never could've imagined how complex of a character he was gonna end up being since at the time we literally only had one voice line of his and a lc he was in the bg of. It's great to see the overall consensus about him beginning to change since the story progressed.

  • @mastergamerz5666
    @mastergamerz5666 Місяць тому

    He is very interesting character

  • @Addych
    @Addych Місяць тому

    Can we please have a 2.1 Lore video??

  • @DarkSeraph
    @DarkSeraph 20 днів тому

    You can understand a character without liking them and that's okay.

  • @mafakapachuau
    @mafakapachuau Місяць тому

    Waiting for 2.2 lore racap.

  • @mayavil
    @mayavil Місяць тому +3

    Absolutely BASED thumbnail ✨

  • @luckycharms2431
    @luckycharms2431 Місяць тому +1

    I love his story quest, I think after playing the quest made me understand more of hsr lore

  • @nl1661
    @nl1661 2 дні тому +1

    Please make a video of lore recap 2.2

  • @raraavis5418
    @raraavis5418 Місяць тому

    Beklediğim video teşekkürler 🙏🏻

  • @saigonrider
    @saigonrider 11 днів тому +1

    If you hate him, he probably wants u to

  • @Clutchingmy_pearls
    @Clutchingmy_pearls Місяць тому

    Luckily Aventurine is still alive and well because of the preservation cornerstone, he was being protected by the cornerstone after he walked into that void but it started to break, not to worry tho cause argenti actually helped/saved him from that point onwards, not sure what tf was he doing there but whatever

  • @mastergamerz5666
    @mastergamerz5666 Місяць тому

    What is our backstory? How r we related to kafka?

  • @anshulgowda
    @anshulgowda Місяць тому +26

    If anyone hates aventurine we got beef😡

  • @cErolian
    @cErolian Місяць тому

    For some reasons I myself don't understand, Aventurine feels oddly similar to Childe (of Genshin Impact)

  • @vincikeeper1581
    @vincikeeper1581 Місяць тому

    Hehe never disliked him, I liked that guy since his appearance.

  • @_HTgRL_DvFM
    @_HTgRL_DvFM 11 днів тому +1

    I was loving aventurine until that boss fight came

  • @kammy6340
    @kammy6340 Місяць тому

    Aventurine reminds me of Furina. I started out disliking them but now I love em so much.

  • @Mustache99
    @Mustache99 Місяць тому

    as a bossfight yes since it was a pain in the ass

  • @ebonomicscasual1433
    @ebonomicscasual1433 Місяць тому +3

    Can you explain what makes his backstory good? Nothing you said told us why you think it was good. You just summarized the story quest.

  • @PastelChanWHM
    @PastelChanWHM Місяць тому +2

    Nobody can be wrong for disliking a character , it’s simply preference though I can sympathise with his upbringing and the ordeals he had to go through in life. His general behavior and attitude is not at all the archetype or kind of person I enjoy in games. That sentiment remains after your insightful video ^^, I’m glad each character can have a positive fanbase while maintaining also people who are iffy about them. Good characters are always polarizing to an extent

    • @DarkSeraph
      @DarkSeraph 20 днів тому

      Exactly you can understand a character and not like them.

  • @ryan-tabar
    @ryan-tabar Місяць тому

    Honkai lore. Pog.

  • @chenwingsee
    @chenwingsee Місяць тому +3

    Just because he's traumatized doesn't mean he's also a dick 👍 I don't hate him but even from the start I knew he'd be have a sad backstory, doesn't stop me from thinking he's kind of a prick. He's nowhere near my most disliked character but I don't particularly like the guy either.

    • @dangetscoffee
      @dangetscoffee 28 днів тому +2

      Thank you, someone with a brain. I agree his backstory is tragic and the ending scene with his younger self close to beautiful, but he's still a dip shit character LOL. Too many people think tragic backstory equals good or interesting character.
      I don't hate him either, I just think he's bland personality wise. His drip and animations look great. People liking his "personality" just says to me the bar is low in hsr. To each their own I guess. His boss fight theme is fire though.🔥

    • @chenwingsee
      @chenwingsee 28 днів тому +1

      @@dangetscoffee I think his fit is straight up ugly but I don't think ppl r ready for that lol 🤧

    • @dangetscoffee
      @dangetscoffee 28 днів тому

      @@chenwingsee LOL I don't think people are. I like the honesty though.

    • @Hero_2222
      @Hero_2222 5 днів тому

      I mean, from what I recall, he hasn't done anything particularly wrong. Yeah, he's smug and obnoxious, but he still led the trailblazer where they needed to go.

    • @dangetscoffee
      @dangetscoffee 5 днів тому

      @@Hero_2222 Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong because 2.1-2.2 was so long so I won't remember everything.
      Pompous asshole in our first meeting, he was about to attack us in our room if not for Acheron a lot of people forget that for some reason, Topaz talks bad about him in her voiceline, lies to Sunday, he broadcasts we're a Stellaron (Surprised that had no affect to anyone in game, but you know intent was bad.), attacks us again at the end of the story. Maybe lied to us a few times?
      One of his backstory things he lied to and scammed an IPC department I think?. It's been a while. His race even values trickery and the 2nd line of their chant is "May your journey be forever peaceful and your schemes forever concealed." Also he didn't lead us to help us, we were part of his plans/ploys.

  • @Faiza_Yo.
    @Faiza_Yo. Місяць тому

    If u think i hate Aventurine? wrong!!
    I skipped Aceron just to get him

  • @mariapazgonzalezlesme
    @mariapazgonzalezlesme Місяць тому +1

    To be fair, Aventurine's first cameo give a terrible first impression, but maybe that was the point.
    Acting like a Karen to wait for 10 minutes.
    A member of IPC, that alone showed red flags.
    Trying to manipulate the Trailbazer into rigged coin game to "help" him.
    Entering into the TB's room.
    And lying about Acheron being the one who killed Robin.
    Doesn't really help his case, by allying with Black Swan.

  • @moonwhispers
    @moonwhispers Місяць тому +1

    I get he is a very sympathetic character and is trying to accomplish some big things, ultimately, but being creepy in Stelle's bedroom and not leaving when asked to was wildly sketchy BS, regardless. It's not really something easily forgiven, he'd of had a baseball bat to the cranium in that scene if the game had let me, and he would have deserved it.

  • @joasama9763
    @joasama9763 28 днів тому

    Wow

  • @tokibunsy
    @tokibunsy Місяць тому +1

    What are the chances I just searched up Aventurine lore today of all days and you just uploaded a video on it???

  • @yadakakadu
    @yadakakadu Місяць тому +2

    I still feel more along the lines of 'no matter your past, you can always act like an asshole'.

  • @dragosh3073
    @dragosh3073 Місяць тому +3

    I don't hate him, i just don't care about him. I really don't get why he's so beloved by star rail girlies, but then i realize i behave the same way to Acheron and i understand

  • @ciabox2843
    @ciabox2843 Місяць тому +1

    don't care if im wrong

  • @Qiqimain69
    @Qiqimain69 Місяць тому +2

    I never hated him. First I liked him cause he is so HOT and after knowing his story, I like him even more

  • @highjinx4763
    @highjinx4763 Місяць тому

    What happened to your twitch?

  • @Gjimk
    @Gjimk Місяць тому +1

    Lol your title really seemed to have triggered his haters

  • @Navia-nr9kt
    @Navia-nr9kt Місяць тому +2

    I believe people are looking at Aventurine's character with tinted glasses jsut because of his sad backstory.

  • @aventurinenthusiast
    @aventurinenthusiast Місяць тому

    ahem.

  • @JaneCondeco
    @JaneCondeco Місяць тому +1

    My first impression of Aventurine was just of someone you cannot trust - and to be honest, that applies to everyone we met in penacony! The only difference is that he seemed to have some beef with people we wanted to trust. Aventurine's backstory shows us the human sife of him, but for me the whole 2.1 story goes beyond that. I don't think the backstory would be enough to love them, it would only be enough to respect what he went through and share some sympathy. What makes me really love this character is how brilliantly he pulled out his schemes, even when that meant sacrificing everything.

  • @LittleMissAesthetic.
    @LittleMissAesthetic. Місяць тому

    The only reason I dislike Aventurine, let alone hate him, is bcuz of his eyes. Bro looks like he's been on something, iykyk.

  • @Marilynn_1275
    @Marilynn_1275 Місяць тому

    I don't hate him tho.
    Never did 👍

  • @christophermauro-barias7451
    @christophermauro-barias7451 Місяць тому

    please do 2.2. now

  • @zerotodona1495
    @zerotodona1495 Місяць тому +8

    I only find him a creep with how he approaches Stelle at the start. A lot of dangerous men do that to women in hotels so it personally set off my red flag.
    I like his story and tear me up at the end of his boss fight. But seriously, never approach a woman like that or get the bat.

    • @melatonininin
      @melatonininin Місяць тому +10

      he does the same thing with caelus so it wasn't like he was seeking stelle like that.

    • @jackmanleblanc2518
      @jackmanleblanc2518 Місяць тому +4

      ​@@melatonininin yeah it definitely sounds like they just have personal issues they need to work through. It's obvious that wasn't Aventurine's intentions.

  • @purpled2992
    @purpled2992 Місяць тому +1

    I don't hate/dislike him, nor Ratio, I just don't like what IPC has done/doing with their plans and colonizing.. so I dislike Topaz low-key because she's the most "follow-up" person to IPC standards.

    • @jackmanleblanc2518
      @jackmanleblanc2518 Місяць тому

      Colonizing? You gotta re-read the story. Penacony ORIGINALLY belonged to them. If anything, the current inhabitants of Penacony are colonizers. We're your eyes closed and ears shut during the story?

  • @Lucisev_
    @Lucisev_ Місяць тому +3

    I never hated him. I actually felt bad how most treated him harshly in 2.0, but oh, how I hate Penacony main story's writing with a passion.
    Everyone talked cryptically and annoyingly. The need for a lot of subtitles for the names. Nobody talked like a normal person.
    In comparison, I highly enjoyed Penacony side quests. Some like Cocona or the Actor, even managed to touch my heart quite a bit. The main story I just cringed at the writing, in all honesty.

  • @xertion8567
    @xertion8567 Місяць тому +3

    His personality just don't click with me. His backstory is tragic, ofc but just how he behaves, just ain't for me. Great character in terms of game play tho, bro single handedly got me through the final stretches of Swarm Disaster and Gold and Gears.

  • @Zerohski
    @Zerohski Місяць тому +1

    Aventurine enjoyer since day one

  • @Yigit_Erren
    @Yigit_Erren Місяць тому

    You can hate Topaz tho guys

    • @donnyv4750
      @donnyv4750 Місяць тому +2

      They're both the least bad stonehearts. And I'm definitely not interested in meeting any stonehearts, bc they're all going to be worse than those 2.

  • @hirods9889
    @hirods9889 Місяць тому +3

    I didn't like him in 2.0 and I like him even less in 2.1 xD
    Sorry but the sad backstory don't work on me

  • @Faym99
    @Faym99 Місяць тому +1

    Don't feel bad about feeling that way with Aventurine, the way he is presented at first is sketchy (and with most Penacony characters), and then when we play with him, seeing his perspective, makes him more lovable.
    I hope the same happens with Firefly, at first she's presented like a suspicious person and suddenly she is Sam, maybe today's update finally closes loose ends.

  • @renarchonofstorms1690
    @renarchonofstorms1690 Місяць тому +2

    I can say he's not a character I hate, but even with his backstory, he isn't a character I like. I can empathize with his position to a certain degree, however, i cannot reconcile the fact that he is aiding the IPC in disrupting the operation of another faction simply because they wish to reclaim penacony for themselves. They are already the richest faction in the known universe at this point, they really do not need to take control of penacony, and let's say that they were in need of new worlds to spread their influence to, it would take much less effort to simply colonize or "aid" another less developed planet/system than it would to basically destabilize the government of another faction that wasnt really entering or engaging in an open violent conflict with them. Aventurine, despite his tragic past still chooses to play an active role in this process, I feel the same about Topaz as well. Though I can understand that business is business it kinda makes me view them in a less positive light when their tragic backstories and/or current circumstances really don't give them much of a sense of empathy or awareness towards the factions that they may potentially be ruining by meddling. However, I do have Topaz in higher esteem since in the end, she did relent in allowing Belobog to maintain its independence while also allowing them the possibility of evolving to be able to pay off their debt.

    • @Gjimk
      @Gjimk Місяць тому +1

      I don't think he "actively chooses to" what he can actually do tbh?I don't think he has much of a choice 😅 he basically belongs to the ipc, I'm sure he probably also doesn't like a lot of the stuff he has to do for them but what are his other options?

  • @despare8198
    @despare8198 Місяць тому +2

    The thing about aventurine, is it's not just his backstory that is great. His character in itself stole the entire show in 2.1 (literally in a way). He makes a lot of decisions that are very interesting, we don't really know the entire extent of his plan, and he feels like the most human character yet. I just love his character and really hope to see him again when we go into the "real penacony" in a later version.

  • @Dwerynith
    @Dwerynith Місяць тому +9

    As much as I can sympathize with Him for everything that happened to his people, and him personnally.
    Aventurine just pisses me off, there's nothing i find likeable about this man

    • @user-ex4lb5to8h
      @user-ex4lb5to8h Місяць тому +6

      True! Wish people would understand that you can feel sympathy for a character, because of what happened to him/her while still disliking the actions and demeanor of said character!

    • @Gesfalthe
      @Gesfalthe Місяць тому +2

      I also wish that people understand that you can dislike a character's demeanor at first and not hold it out against them lol.

    • @dangetscoffee
      @dangetscoffee 28 днів тому

      Thank you! His story was tragic and the ending scene animation with his younger self was nice, but people easily forgot that he's still a dip shit, just because they shoved his tragic backstory and him in our face for hours. He literally invaded our room was about to attack us but Acheron saved us, lies to a lot of people, probably more sketchy things. I think his drip and animations are nice, but his personality is trash.

  • @Falsic
    @Falsic Місяць тому +1

    The 'death' of adventurine doesn't give the IPC any leverage, not really. He instigated a potentially fatal, very public conflict against a known eminator... No court or reasonable person would lend the IPC any additional sympathy points. The fact that Ascheron reveals herself as the eminator of nihility, the stark contrast to the harmony, makes the family's inability to protect the idiot even less of a liability. How can you plan for something that was universally agreed to have been impossible, an eminator of nihility?

    • @GuyWithAnAmazingHat
      @GuyWithAnAmazingHat Місяць тому +7

      I don't think you understand the story at all, there's no "sympathy points" involved. Penacony runs on the idea that they are an absolutely safe recreation planet where even death is impossible, Aventurine set out to prove that death is in fact possible to break down Penacony's cover ups of many other deaths before him.
      This allows the public to apply pressure on the Family because of their lies, allowing the IPC to step in to further their own interests. In fact Adventurine was invited by the Watchmaker in the first place alongside other guests because the Watchmaker himself wants to break down the walls of lies built by the Family surrounding Penacony.

    • @SolHati0828
      @SolHati0828 Місяць тому +2

      ❌🟰🧠

    • @Gesfalthe
      @Gesfalthe Місяць тому +6

      Bro did not understand the story.

    • @Falsic
      @Falsic Місяць тому

      @@GuyWithAnAmazingHat but how does it allow the IPC to step in? It’s stated that people don’t care even if there are deaths. It doesn’t really matter. Knowing that an emanator can break the rules doesn’t overturn the family’s claims of security. It’s an emanator, the avatar of an aeon… plus, we haven’t been given any evidence that any of the three people have actually died. Firefly explicitly shows up in the last scene. What part am I not understanding? No amount of public pressure would allow the IPC to take over, especially when the IPC is a known hyena looking for any opportunity. Regardless, the IPC could just declare war. As seen with Topaz, they’re judge, jury, and executioner of any claim they make. Nothing revealed so far can really challenge them… save the Xianxou.

    • @Falsic
      @Falsic Місяць тому +1

      @@Gesfalthe what didn’t I understand? I know what Aventurine is trying to do. I’m just saying it’s nonsense. It only works because Mihoyo wants it to. If that case was presented in front of any court, it’d be dismissed. Aventurine willingly brought that on himself very publicly, while challenging someone he knew was an emanator, the beings closest to gods that people can actually interact with in Honkai. Would you say the family’s security is incompetent for being unable to predict the impact of the only nihilist emanator to ever exist?

  • @spartantraveler7251
    @spartantraveler7251 Місяць тому +1

    I can never hate him. He's my lucky charm. I absolutely love him platonically.

  • @Osaaamaaa
    @Osaaamaaa Місяць тому +3

    Wow imagine telling people they're wrong for having an opinion. Like I can also say "if you like this channel, you're wrong "

  • @Gilgamesh-em6ru
    @Gilgamesh-em6ru Місяць тому +1

    I simply don't like how they just gave him a sad back story to make people not hate him as much as they did with Topaz when her back story was shown. the IPC are suppose to be these big jerks in star rail. every time we've encountered them it was never a good interaction and that was true for both Topaz and Aventurine but they tried to leverage that with their back story.
    like they can't keep getting away with that. I swear if Jade follows this pattern as well it'll just ruin any expectation of decent bad character writing in the game. there are other ways to make bad characters likeable that isn't giving them a sob story. Like with Otto apocolypse in honkai impact 3rd. He would do anything to make the person he cared about the most happy and when they died due to a poor scheme he did. they dedicated their life to trying to bring them back. he was still evil and a 'villain' but it was easy to sympathize with them and be sad when he did eventually die in the story after accomplishing his goal.

  • @nyx8
    @nyx8 Місяць тому +7

    i don't like the way they used anti romani stereotypes to portray his character, added a real life slur used against them in the game and then they based everything about him around slavery. people can love him if they want tho but i've got beef with hoyo for this

    • @jackmanleblanc2518
      @jackmanleblanc2518 Місяць тому +3

      Okay why do you have beef? Because racism/slavery exists? What is there to have beef about? Do you expect only positivity in your stories?

    • @nyx8
      @nyx8 Місяць тому +2

      @@jackmanleblanc2518first of all i'd like you to question why hoyoverse writes stories about characters based on poc cultures always in some way revolving around racism and slavery and never anything else. not to mention the lack of skin diversity in their games. they focused solely on him as a slave and nothing relating to his connection to romani people. why wasn't anything about his people shown? their culture and lifestyle? his sister wasn't even given a name. the only thing they mentioned about these people is the travelling with wagons which is historically correct. mind you chinese people have been enslaved before but they never write such plot lines for their own characters. second of all romani people have expressed that the usage of their history of suffering without proper representation of the character does not sit well with them. they portrayed him as a money obsessed gambler and swindler something that romani people have been saying for years that it's a negative and harmful stereotype in media. i do not like positive stories only but i want at the very least people to research shit when they are portraying real people's history(painful one at that mind you) and culture. the usage of the equivalent of the g*psy slur in Chinese was the cherry on top of this god awful portrayal.

    • @i.3683
      @i.3683 Місяць тому +1

      @@nyx8sis ate him up so bad he’s scared to come up with another comment 😤

    • @youknowwho6748
      @youknowwho6748 Місяць тому +1

      ​@jackmanleblanc2518 I absolutely love Aventurine, but I will say the fact that a *real life* slur was used and not a fictional one is what I see to be the main issue.
      I'm absolutely all for these topics being discussed in the game but hoyo kinda crossed a line between commentating on the issue, and just straight up being racist if that makes sense.
      It's a very sensitive topic obviously and I just think they completely missed the mark on what's okay with this kind of discussion imo.

    • @youknowwho6748
      @youknowwho6748 Місяць тому +1

      And again I LOVE Aventurine. He is easily my favorite character in the game atm, it's just unfortunate how the topic was handled

  • @shihohinomorisbiggestfan
    @shihohinomorisbiggestfan Місяць тому +7

    i still hate him but hes sooo well written

  • @Oblivionknight
    @Oblivionknight Місяць тому +2

    No, I'm in the right to hate him. He has a very sad backstory, but that doesn't change his personality or the way he interacts with other people

  • @jackmanleblanc2518
    @jackmanleblanc2518 Місяць тому +1

    Sadly the fact that Aventurine is obviously a well-written character isn't enough to stop a lot of people from hating him. People tend to hate characters that aren't at least 2 of these things: nice, agreeable, or cool/badass. Aventurine is none of those things. He comes across as a narcissist even though he isnt, but people are generally incapable of looking past the surface level and people HATE narcissists.

  • @MegaRayquaza-yo8is
    @MegaRayquaza-yo8is Місяць тому

    I love him he is so handsome and 🥵