I'm never selling a graphics card online again 😭
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- Опубліковано 24 бер 2024
- An online buyer recently asked to return a cheap graphics card. Safe to say it wasn't in the same condition as when I sold it :/
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you should report this buyer for fraud.
even if you dont care about losing a fiver, your report might prevent them from ripping off the next seller that does care
Exactly. Some people are tight on money and can't afford to lose 5 pounds. Plus if that guy ripped him off for that little, he will certainly scam for 100, 200, etc. He needs to be held accountable.
Then go to court and pay court fees? Yeah no.
I would simply do no returns.
@@ncg8224 You clearly never sold anything on eBay lol
That wouldn't happen, but yeah not accepting returns is the best way to go imo
If its ebay, its a lost cause, ebay ALWAYS sides with the buyer, no matter how fraudulent he is. Protection is 100% guaranteed for the buyer, seller....kicks rocks.
@@ncg8224not court. review is enough
That is just pathetic.
If the buyer even wanted parts, then he still is not liable for a refund.
The Fan was straight up butchered.
eBay has been very fierce to protect the buyer in order to restore faith in their site and unfortunately this is an example of someone taking advantage of the system
@@inshallah4280 Yeah, eBay has a severe overcorrection problem... At first they weren't doing anything about anything, then they clamped down on everyone, then the softened up on sellers and got hard with buyers, then they flipped the script 180 degrees. I have to wonder what about their internal processes makes it so hard for eBay to strike a fair balance..?
@@inshallah4280 0:30 He didn't sell it on eBay, he sold it on a local site.
@@inshallah4280 He didnt sell it on eBay
@@inshallah4280He should still be able to demand that all parts are returned at least...
I am amazed that a £10 GPU was even returned, never mind missing bits.
Me too! I’d have happily refunded it and let them keep it 😂
@@RandomGaminginHD I never let these crooks off the hook though. I had 2 crooks in the last months alone, one guy advertising his camera as coming with a tripod, but didn't send in the tripod; he only sent it after I filed a complaint with eBay. And another guy advertising a CPU cooler as being never used before and with pre-applied thermal paste; came in WITHOUT anything pre-applied, and with a bunch of scratches on the metal; got a complete refund only after filing a complaint with eBay; again!
@@RandomGaminginHD Will you attempt to fix it or find what causing it atleast, i had exactly this issue on my RX 560, basically at random times, the game just goes into solid color from the majority of colors in the scene, had to force restart my PC whenever it happens, i'm currently on GTX 1660, hasn't decided to sell RX 560 because i don't want others to have this very unknown and strange issue.
Update: So somehow i found a workaround by downclocking the card (albeit having to sacrifice performance) started from 200mhz, all the way to 900mhz (stock was 1196mhz) which is the stablest as i can get, i don't know how long this will last, i might be able to sell it but at extremely cheap price or give it to my younger brother.
@@RandomGaminginHDI don't think it is your card!! I 100% reckon they had a fkd 650ti bought your one and sent there e-waste back to you for a refund! They also striped it's fan and shroud to keep for spares same for the I.O shield theirs was probably all rusty.. takes a low scumbag to care about $10
@@RandomGaminginHDthey are shark shit!! That's very low infact it's as low as it's possible bottom of the ocean low!!
Hi Steve, I'm the guy on the Uni campus who you sold the R7 370 to a while back. It was nice to meet you! Im pleased to report back the card is working perfectly and I have since upgraded to a RTX 4070 Super as that card was intended as a stop-gap. Don't worry, there won't be any returns from me! :)
You still have the card? You might want to keep it as its soon going to be worth milions when the channel hits 20M subs
I like these little stories, thanks for sharing.
Was it worth it for such a minor upgrade? (:
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This truly is a moment in time, RGHD using an emoji in his title.
I think I used the flame one in the gtx 480 video 😁
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Report the scammer. Does not matter it was a cheap card, it is a matter of making them responsible for that kind of bs.
report to who? your mum?
@@funkytransportPolice, this is obviously a fraud.
The idea is that what that buyer did falls under "wire fraud", lol.
If the reporting is done properly , that person will feel the full extent of what they did and get a good burn, to never try it again.
I agree, it's not about money, but about to warn other people about these cheaters. So if it was don one some auction server, don't be afraid and give negative comment. A lot of not honest sellers or buyers are trying to argue and make you to remove your negative feedback, but you should not do that because they deserve that.
@@funkytransportfound the scammer 😂
Damn ... It isn't that much about the money, but the message behind. Quite disrespectful buyer. 💀
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Now that's a proper magic box!
And yeh, @BlackCatRedScarf
I'd go less anime and more like a n i m a l.
That was a low brow move.
Probably a kid did it.
Refund rejected. Not all of the product was sent back. No money back in that case.
"Look how they massacred my boy."
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He may have took off that cooler and fitted onto a compatible GPU, like a 750 Ti or something like that, then hussled you for your money back. What a cheapskate!!!!!
Or more likely an older card that no one would buy. A GT420 or something.
@@MyNameIsBucket I would (already did actually, and a few other 420 computer parts), but that's because my sense of humor stopped developing at 14.
OK but why is the card burnt, then? Why did the buyer run the card without its fan?
@@todorkolev7565Yeh, that's a weird one, I like to customize my card, so perhaps he tried that and goofed it up as well.
@@todorkolev7565 probably to make it faulty to get a refund.
Make sure in future sales you state that all sales are final, no refunds.
Yeah that won't work within the UK , sadly.
ebay forces you to return
@@user-jy8yp3wo6m If this sale wasn't on eBay then you can stand by the no-returns stance. And if it was eBay, the Money Back Guarantee only lasts for 30 days from delivery/collection, anyways.
And on eBay, if a buyer abuses the returns process, you can report the buyer and at the very least you'll get the return postage cost back.
I personally wouldn't sell anything valuable on eBay, that it would be too much of a risk to get ones money back if a buyer abused the process.
@@user-jy8yp3wo6m Obviously, how else are you going to know if sellers tampered with item without inspecting ot yourself and then raising complaint… Within UK you have been able dispute dodgy eBay returns for years, at least here in the UK.
@@user-jy8yp3wo6mIt wasn't on eBay. Nobody wanted it there.
The proper response to "I want to return this $10 used card." is "lol, no."
more like 'I want to return this busted card of the same model as the functioning one you sold me, and then ask for a refund' - 'I have your contact details and address, I will be handing them over to the police'
@@richardhockey8442 Police aren't gonna show up over $10 bro, lmao.
Maybe he was just curious.
Did they swap the card? Does it have the same serial number as when you sent it? I think you’re too nice to them. I’m sorry somebody took advantage of you like this.
Yeah seems to be
The card probably dismantled itself wanting to return home, aw!@@RandomGaminginHD
I'd think to record the serial numbers and other unique identifiers on the part or board, and keep them in case a return is initiated, and compare those to the part received for return.
I have a feeling that card was not *the* one you shipped to the buyer.
Makes one wonder if said card can be revived. Dry thermal paste? Loose solder balls? Capacitor plague?
As long as it's not the GPU chip itself that's busted, everything else is fixable.
@@asakayosapro Its more than likely just thermal expantion, eg something has been wrecked inside the PCB/traces has been "loosend". Most likely this is around or on the Core section of the board, or even the core itself could have popcorned. Repeated hotspot heat cycles is problematic even in boards designed with passive cooling in mind, they just dont last as long as actively cooled boards.
TL:DR Bad thermals can lead to leads/traces getting loose from the PBC internally, which in turn makes them really prone to actually getting signal issues due to thermal expantion/shrinkage
Make unique marks with permanent marker... Like a sharpie.... Take photos of it... Then when you post the item to be sold it will deter these idiots that do things like this ... On the bright side... Your video might help others be warned ✌️😉
Jesus Christ. That installation job must’ve been done in the middle of a warzone or something. No reply from the buyer either? Dude either got shot or was too ashamed he tried assembling a PC by throwing things at the motherboard (or tried jamming it into a low profile PC and was too ashamed to admit they did all that DIY)
Just a trash human with no morals. I had similar problems on ebay back when I regularly sold there. This is why I stopped selling regularly, now it's just small easy to ship high dollar items every once in a while.
100% that guy took the shroud off shoving the card into an optiplex. The only "refund" he would be getting from me would be a ..|.. message with return the rest of it.
That was my guess as well. But can the Dell Optiplex supple the power to the 6 pin, or will the card run just off PCIe?
@@snotspat if the card is low powered enough ,the default dell psu can handle it .have something similar in another pc
The dell would be fine if its a minimum of a 250w PSU with a sata to 6 pin
@@SlyStarling I think so too. OK I thought molex to 6 pin, but my guess is an attempt to adapt.
Holy shit thank you community and RGHD!! I put my 1660 TI on Marketplace a few days ago and it didnt came in my mind to take pictures of the serial numbers. I will take them now. Ty
Nothing prevent them from doing the same thing , removing the fan from your gpu then send it back to you
That person wouldn't have gotten SHYTE back from me, you're a real gentleman.
not from you, from ebay. The seller has no choice but to accept the refund no matter what.
@@todorkolev7565 He said he sold it on a local listing site, so they probably don't have much if any buyer protection features. But yeah, fuck eBay's buyer protection.
Slime ball wanted a free shroud. What a dink.
I think they already had this broken card, got the working one and sent this broken one back.
I had someone return a card saying it didn't work. Problem was, it wasn't the same card. I took a picture of the serial number, which didn't match. Also, mine had a bit of dust in crevices, this one was very clean. Luckily I was able to successfully dispute it on Ebay. This is a known scam people do, so take precautions on anything with a reasonable value.
I once sold a guy an old PC, and he complained i sold him a PC that i "knew" was going faulty.
So i go look at it, and he had ripped the fan off the north bridge for some reason.
People are dumb.
I used a power supply from 2009 for 4 years 6 months powering technology from 2017-2018
@@aksGJOANUIFIFJiufjJU21 And? I'm onna' North Q-flex(whatever) 850W from 2012...You saying - I CAN NOT use it?
@@dallesamllhals9161 I never said you shouldn't use an old power supply
@@aksGJOANUIFIFJiufjJU21 Still using a 750 Watt Thermaltake PSU from 2012 in my current build (5800x3d / Intel Arc A770 ) Gets used like 300 days a year for the last 12 years.
@@dallesamllhals9161 I never said you can't use an old power supply
I gave up on selling hardware online years ago, it's always the same problems:
- People who want to pay a lot lower than what you are asking, even though you are already asking for a bit less than the regular used price.
- People who keep sending you trade offers even though you made it dead clear that you aren't interested in trading.
- People who will come back to piss you off due to their own stupidity.
- Scammers.
- People who would rather keep sending you messages instead of doing a google search to find out if that's actually what they need.
Considering the hassle, I'd rather just stock pile a few parts at home, and sell a few others to close friends, than actually selling anything online, worst case scenario if it's a really cheap component I'll just donate it or repurpose it into something else like a media server.
Same. Too many idiots AND scammers.
Last time when i sold a i5 3570k and r9 290x pc, i got a message 3 YEARS after the sale, that it does not work anymore. Like it is my f-ing problem now... :D
@@ihatelolsHahaha even brand spanking new PCs only get a year of complimentary warranty
This feels like a genuine crime
it is. return fraud.
Its allowed by ebay
mail fraud, crime against the King
@@shirakolee It may be allowed by eBay but eBay has to follow local regulations and I doubt the EU would let this shit fly. The UK still uses 99% of EU regulations.
@@krashd what i mean is that , ebay is allowing ppls to sell things , so they allow this kind of "crime" , cause there's no way to prevent it or even prove it , no matter what law the country is following , if theres no proof of a crime , it should not be possible to do it , if EU allow ebay to be used , they make thoses "crimes" a possibility
Always sold as seen! So many of these scams going round, have to stand your ground!
100%
This is exactly why I DO NOT ACCEPT RETURNS! I include everything about the item in the description and if the buyer can't read, that's their problem. 🤷♂
He probably tried to shove it in a tiny pc and destroyed the card lol
What's a tiny pee-pee? Itx or MICRO-atx?
@@dallesamllhals9161 The card would fit as is even on those. The only thing it wouldnt fit is literally a laptop chassis.
Before accepting a return, I always ask the buyer to take a picture of the card. If you had done this here you could’ve rejected it based off of the user breaking it. You can use their picture against them if they send you something different as the picture will not match.
Always keep a record of the serial numbers as well, and put a picture of the serial number in the listing too. If they send back a different card, then the numbers won’t match
why are people so dumb? I mean you can easily take a picture BEFORE you rip off the fan and then send back without the fan (after the picture)? Do I need to spell it out for you?
@todorkolev7565 If you’d of read the whole comment you’d see I mentioned keeping track of the serial number. It’s not too late to learn how to read
@@milkywaffles5701the serial numbers are not on the fan , they are on the electronic part of the gpu
Its never too late to learn ?
@shirakolee Yes I know. Thank you
@@shirakolee By electronic part you mean the PCB? The bit that is the actual "card", i.e. the bit milkywaffles clearly stated to take a picture of in his OP.
It's never to late to not be a vegetable.
The only explanation I can think of is that they pilfered the cooling parts for another card and overheated the thing with whatever jury-rigged cooling solution they tried to use on it, or they thought they may have been able to passively cool it using case fans or something to get a quiter experience. Regardless, if they'd brought it and destroyed it, they should have to keep it. I think they were just trying their luck for a refund.
You're also forgeting they may have just switched a working card for a broken card.
I’m UK based same as you, and yes sadly eBay can be a pain at times, however it offers better seller protection than most. For example, take a lot of detailed item pictures prior to dispatch with a print out of your transaction invoice within said pictures, include pictures of packaging and how it was wrapped ready for dispatch.
Now if the seller then returns item in shoddy condition, you can forward eBay before/after pictures and they will very likely side with you (At least going by my own experiences over last 15 odd years). Also buy a quality pack of small delaminating warranty stickers and stick one over/across a vital screw head on the back plate etc - so obvious tampering = no refund. This method of self-protection has saved me a lot of trouble every time someone has tried to pull a crafty refund after tampering.
Obviously not worth the hassle on £10 card, but dodgy buyers do tend to swerve any item with delaminating warranty stickers on, and clearly shown within sale advert.
My wild guess is that the buyer wanted to put it in their PC, somehow didn't fit and removed the shroud to make it fit, which "technically" accomplished what they wanted to do, but also fried it in the process.
Either that or it's the ol' switcheroo and sent you a broken card while keeping the good one.
Please confirm that you reported this buyer or that he faced any consequences for this fraud. You absolutely should not tolerate this!
BTW. Like several other people in the comments, I suspect that someone may have bought your card and sent back a damaged one (rather than just keeping the fan). Have you looked at the serial numbers and made sure the stickers haven't been swapped?
Can't imagine why it doesn't work after they pulled it apart and tortured it. The fact they kept the shroud shows they knew what they were doing though. In situations like that I never issue a refund until it arrives in the same condition I sent it out.
i sell on ebay for over 12 years now.
ALWAYS take the 10 minutes and document the functional product in a single video (GPU in PC, running a benchmark and showing GPU-Z + Temps., take it out and put it in the box you'll ship it in. and show the serial numbers on video.)
Nothing is prooving your test were done just before you sell the gpu , could have been years before
Then nothing prevent the buyer from just removing the fan and sending you back the gpu
Just dont sell anything online
@@shirakoleeof course i provide the evidence of showing a news website with date and time (and i google "date" to get the current one with my location)
i do these videos after selling and film from the running PC, the benchmarks, taking it out of the PC, packing and putting the label on the box and weigh it.
i know this sounds almost autistic but i have sold over 650 items in these 12 years. this is necessary.
@@MGK195 it's not autistic , to me it's actualy not enough , the weigh of a fan is usualy around the same than the bubbles or any protections ppls can add inside , so if i had to sell something , i would record both when sending the gpu , but also when geting it back , prooving what's inside when i send it and when i get it back
but if you have no problem for 650 items then i guess you're fine
Since it's also missing the bracket i think the genius who bought it removed the cooler and the bracket to make it fit in some small oem case. As an example if you try to fit in it a SFF Dell computer it won't fit even without the bracked because the cooler would hit the power supply
the only reasonable explanation. No idea how so many other people are so dumb!
Or he had a broken card, bought this one and sent his broken one as a “return” the possibilities are endless
@@yyeezyy630 in another comment he said the serial number of the card is the same as the one he sold as working
Thanks for the video. It's a good reminder of what can go wrong and the comments here make some useful points.
Swapped card... Fam ALWAYS take a photo of your serial numbers before seling stuff (Gpu's, laptops... anything really) There are some absolutely vile POS people that want to take advantage of others unfortunately... Also Thanks for the amazing content as always
Serial numbers are on the card , the card got returned , but some part of it got removed
Mate, you find some real low lifes online. I once sold a faulty PS3 controller for parts and not working a long while ago to only have the buyer open the controller and strip it from its working bits. They then set up a return because they said it wasn't as described, I mentioned the LED worked and they obviously nicked the bits and said the LED didn't work. I rang ebay explaining that this seller is a con and has bits and pieces of PS3 controllers up for sale on their account. Ebay refunded me and that was the last thing I sold on ebay.
As a general rule, you'd be safe selling to someone who been a member for a longer time on ebay than to a newish account with whom I wouldn't bother unless its cash on collection.
Which sucks as that limits actual real New buyers. I have never used eBay but I'm currently looking for a cheap GPU on the site.
@@YTKeepsDeletingAllMyComments I would advise to buy from someone who has sold multiple hundred items to consider them legit. Avoid new accounts as they're far more likely to fob you off because they have nothing to lose. Pay through PayPal as their buyer protection will help in the shortrun beyond ebay's own 30 days money back guarantee. Once you've bought the GPU, stress test it hard for a couple of days and any issues with it should appear straight away thus allowing you to returning it back to the seller as item is defective.
@@YTKeepsDeletingAllMyComments Try buying from a seller who's been on the site for a long time, ideally someone whose sold 100s of items, as they're far less likely to rip you off than someone on a new account. When you do receive the GPU, stress test it hard for a couple of days and if it has any vulnerabilities they will show immediately. If in the event it is faulty, you can return it under item is defective. This all can be done easily under the 30 day money back guarantee so there's no issues buying from ebay. The nature of electronics is that they can die out of the blue but if you do your due diligence you should be ok.
...and this is why I only sell things directly with my buyers as well as selling it all "as is". I got burned too many times by online scammers.
Thank you for sharing the experience
Shame really they have done this your an honest guy and sold them a good product for almost nothing and they ruin the card and returned it completely disrespectful. Keep up the good work though love your content
I'll bet it's not the same card, they probably bought an identical card and returned the bad one. This is why I'm careful selling anything online- only sell to reputable buyers with a reputation, I learned that selling on ebay for a while, I wouldn't sell to anyone without 50+ reviews and 95%+ postive reviews. I had someone do what I just described with a Motherboard. This sort of stuff really hurts small time sellers. I certainly wouldn't have accepted this as a return. One thing I learned, ask for photos of the item before accepting a return. Of course for 10 Dollars i'd have probably just told him to keep it and refund them and just not worry about it. I'm surprised a Person can be this petty. I wouldn't be surprised if it was a Person who follows you and is trolling.
No return 🧐 period.
Honest question.
>I wouldn't sell to anyone without 50+ reviews and 95%+ postive reviews.
How does one buy from ebay if they're buying for the first time?
@@christenlanger Ebay isn't a purely second-hand market and hasn't been for a long time. You can easily rack up 50+ reviews buying from reputable stores for brand new or refurbished goods. My own account wouldn't meet their requirement (score of 45) but I've basically only used it when ebay codes made the purchase cheaper than buying from the actual store website.
@@christenlangerThat's on the buyer to figure that out.
I recently had a guy buy 2 sticks of DDR4 from me. He leaves a positive review "RAM seems to work fine. Ran a quick test in Memtest and it passed. Item arrived on time and I have no complaints."
Then files for a return saying it doesn't work. He pays for shipping back and I test the sticks and they are fine.
Absolute monsters. And evga too. The GPU gods will not forgive this one.
One thing you could try is reflashing the bios, it's possible that it got corrupted to some degree. If that doesn't solve the crashing, I'd try underclocking/undervolting it a bit.
Poor little nice card. This form factor is actually quite a handy card to pop into any case, and just for loading Windows for example.
more likely a classic bait-and-switch. They had a dead card, bought yours, swapped the fan and shroud and sent the dead one back.
This is where creating your own paper trail would help to mitigate this kind of problem in the future. Take note of the serial number(s) of the devices or parts you sell, take photos of the items being boxed with their shipping labels, then put a terms of sale in your listings which states that refunds will only be approved provided the returned hardware / equipment matches the specifications of the item that was shipped. This would allow you to quickly and easily root out these kinds of scams and prevent you getting burned on future sales.
Granted, it's more work post-sale but considering what some buyers are like and how eBay sides with them more than the sellers if the seller can't provide evidence of a scam attempt, it's far better than losing money constantly on scam sales.
I would'nt of accepted a return, sold as seen. But you have the advantage of it coming back in that state, making a video about it and amusing us all and getting the money back anyway :D
Ugh, this sucks :(
Appreciate the constant upload though, Steve!
3:08 gaming journalist moment
I told him before his sensitivity is way too high for him 😂
That is definetly his graphics card not yours lol
There sure are some unusual characters out there! I gave up selling ages ago, so mostly goes to recycling/charity now as its just not worth the grief.
I sympathise for you, RGiHD! At least your loss is small and the scammer is now being shown up online for what they are
Fkn shame. No card deserves to be deliberately destroyed. 650ti would've been amazing in a windows xp retro rig
how poor and tight must one be to return a $10 card and after butchering it.....unbelievable...some people are just pure scum
You are a good guy, you should never have accepted this "return". The seller did not return your card, you just got his old and broken one... what a scumbag. I wish him all the bluescreens in the world
Sad to hear that. I also have similar card, but tall version 'msi gtx 650 ti cyclone ii', still working great with some maintenance from time to time in my second village PC, more like collecting item. Who broke that beautiful lil thing have no conscience...more than sended it back
Most likely he had one just like yours that was broken, he kept your card and send back his broken one. Aka "fixing" his GPU for free.
One of the first but not truly the first. 🙂
This reminds of when I was working at PC World and someone tried to returns their laptop because it wouldn't connect to wifi and the screens resolution was low. The laptop originally came with Vista installed and the customer decided to install Windows XP instead but hadn't installed any of the driver so neither the wifi card or graphics display was installed correctly.
Two and a half years ago I sold my 3080 on Ebay. After two weeks the buyer opened a return request stating the card was defective as games supposedly kept crashing.
The buyer returned the card and what I got in the mail was an old AMD HD 5770 just loose in the parcel box without any protection with half of it's cooling shroud broken off (probably broken during shipping). I immediately opened a dispute, providing pictures and whatnot, but as usual Ebay sided with the buyer and I had to refund all the money including the shipping cost (which was 50$ as I had to ship it overseas), as well as the shipping cost of the returned card.
The cherry on top is that card I got back was completely dead (black screen, fan full speed, no sign of life). Not that it would have mattered much as that card is worth like 10 bucks max.
I'm sad to state... it sucks but that's how it's supposed to work.
There will always be scammers on both sides, sellers and buyers. And the buyer should always be protected. If you protect the buyer, customers stay. You'll discourage small sellers and get a natural selection of the big ones who can face scammers with other profits.
If you protect sellers, customers will leave and you'll naturally select bad sellers.
I've only sold very few things online and it was scary AF.
"the buyer should always be protected."
IDK where this idea comes from, no they should not. They should learn from their mistakes, not be given free passes to spend recklessly.
Not sure where you are from, but here in the US all our money has "Caveat Emptor" on it, which means "buyer beware."
no it's not how it's supposed to be. Ebay started as a hub for people to sell used stuff. With bidding, you get pretty close to what the item is worth but everyone knows that you are buying something online and the price is lower, reflecting damage that you cannot see.
It's the same with bidding in car auctions and abandoned storage rooms - you get a glimpse and make your bid, knowing that some luck is involved.
Ebay was never supposed to be "luxury shop with white glove customer care" - hence why it has changed so much and is now rife with scam for both buyers and sellers.
@@freedustin I read no counterargument for all I said about why it's supposed to be that way here.
@@todorkolev7565 Ebay has been trying to transition from that site with weird stuff for nerds to a regular e-commerce, like it or not, and I can really see why. Today there are social networks, apps and much more for people who just want to buy random stranger's stuff with no protection for anybody.
Of course I'm talking about cases when it just comes down two someone's word against someone else's and there's some protection. I really can't see how a site who defends a potentially scammy reseller could stay afloat.
Yea, welcome to eBay ... Learned my lesson when selling a monitor where the seller then claimed, dead pixels. Was 100% it had zero dead pixels (from my own using), so i asked for pictures. Instantly spotted the issue as just being a bit of dirt on the screen, told the person, clean with a bit of wipes. No no, was the response, dead pixels, you need to take back! Again, responded, please use some product to remove the dirt, ... again, repeat, repeat. I think they took some pictures when the screen arrived, tested it, maybe did not like it, or broke it, or wanted to ship a different screen back. Did not fall for that gag.
From that point on, whenever i ship something, i take dozens of pictures of the item in working condition, it being packaged, shipped etc. Aka, to prevent any such claims and had one person trying to pull a quick one to return claiming it was not the shipped item, but when i pointed out some of my pictures, they vanished. Curious ;)
Ha, your life is never dull... plus it made for a fascinating episode! 🙂
I had this happen before as well, people usually send back the same old item that stopped working before, the really sh!tty people send a completely different item back, and Paypal/Ebay used to have policies in place where the seller always gets the shaft. Since then, EVERYTHING I sell I record serial numbers and include them in the listings so when I get an asshat that pulls the ol here's my old broken item I have some recourse to either get my original item back or money back.
If I was to hazard a guess (and due to the smell you mentioned, which suggests it was used in it's present state), there wasn't enough clearance in their case with the shroud on so they popped it off so that it would fit...
The buyer had the same model card but most likely did not notice that his card's fan failed and kept on using it until it began having issues. Must have tried to DIY some alternate form of cooling so he had to remove the fan and cover but did not fix the problem. He then saw your card on sale and bought it with the intent to swap and return claiming it had problems. Must have thrown the cover and fan of his broken card so he just returned it without them.
This an example why its a good idea to add a (total & close-up) photos off the serial number. For yourself and in the ad. Also add it to the text chat. Handy when you have removed the ad. As text chat is usually saved on every trading platform (edit: typo)
Always add some unique marks to the board with a Sharpie and film yourself doing so. Then film yourself putting that into the addressed envelope and sealing it on camera. Takes 2 mins to do but worth it's weight in gold in a dispute. Also random Sharpie marks are almost impossible for the buyer to notice or replicate if they send back a different card.
There are also tamper evident stickers available - I put them on top of screws when I was selling GPUs. That and photos of the item or a video of it working go a long way.
You should try touching the memory chips when it's running heavy games. Had a GTX 670 that worked like this, fine in older games but crashing in heavier ones. Touched the Vram once and it was burning hot. I put on little heatsinks over it and it suddenly started working fine, with stability going down over the next months though.
might have figures it was a removable part, and they needed to reduce dimensions to get it to fit,
you see all sorts when people build computers for the first time
best vid ! very entertaining 😄 had a laugh
Could possibly have been an attempt to improve cooling (the deshroud anyway removing the fan is just dumb). I have an EVGA 1060SC 6Gb which used to get a bit on the spicy side until I removed the plastic shroud. It did genuinely improve cooling in my scenario. Doesn't explain the fan though.
I have had some close calls with dodgy buyers myself and learned my lesson, luckily at no loss.
Thats why I closely document my hardware on video as it's being used, before I package it.
I also document the packaging process, incase they try to pull some funny moves.
Hasn't happened that way just yet but like I said I had some close calls with some people that made me start to do this
Might make a whole series, unstable "spare tyre" cards tested with various cooling solutions to see if stability or performance improves.
Try it with a GT1030 or something as the fans on them are arguably a placebo.
It’s a pity the buyer wasn’t a nice genuine decent person like yourself, unbelievable behaviour all credit to you for refunding!
Had you photograph the card covering all sides before you ship it (especially the serial number), you might win the case.
I always did this before shipping just incase. But luckily I never had to use it.
Exactly the same reason why I stopped selling on eBay. Had a PC sent back with CPU out of the socket and bent pins.
ive had freezes similiar to that with gpu rescheduling, wouldnt put together a full rig to test that but its a thought. even my current rig needs it off
I would have checked the serial number to make sure wasn't swapped for a broken one, the other thing could be was used to mine on but then found wasn't good enough.
Even if the GPU went bad on it's own & the customer had it apart just to check the thermal paste or something, they still should of returned the fan & shroud with it.
This is why the few times I have sold PC parts I always check over everything first, take a lot of pictures, make sure it is passing stress tests if it's something like a CPU, GPU or memory. Make sure I have the SN in at least one of the pictures. Because you have to assume sadly whoever buys it might try to pull something like that, or they just might be someone who doesn't know what they are doing & damage the part. Of course though if you're selling anything online also make sure you pack it really well, take pictures of the packing & the outside package because there is always the risk of the item getting trashed in shipping.
Tbh for the price of that card, if the customer could so me a video of it freezing up I'd just give the money back & tell them not to bother returning it. Even more so if it's through a site the seller has to pay the return shipping.
Garden is looking great!
Thanks. The plants have certainly had enough water! It’s been raining soooo much here
I've been fixing and selling electronics on ebay for a while. One thing is for sure when you get a return you do have to be ready to repair it or otherwise you will have more losses then gains.
I stopped selling computer stuff long time ago. I didn't have bad experience selling parts, but I still got paranoid. Instead I've used old parts in projects. My media-PC is made from my old parts. I have an back up system made of my old parts. Few years from now I'll have to start to think about another project.
this is a propper video. this is the new meta for content!
My theory is they tried to cram it into an ultra sff that only had a single slot, or one that only had half height bays but they used a riser cable. Probably an ex-corporate dell, lenovo or HP thin client machine.
This is why you take photos of products from all angles before shipping out to your buyer , it protects the seller in the event of such a situation , any serial numbers on the board and stickers will prove all wrongdoing towards the buyer in comparison photos
Even in Malaysia ,where i live , its mandatory to take videos of parcel unboxings to protect yourself as a buyer incase of any wrongdoing from the seller , or any return or refund attempt will be null and void
It's standard practice here in UK too if you want to save yourself a lot of bother, though many still don't do it.
@@jimn7692 sadly many people still haven't accepted the term of "trust no one" on the online marketplace
I remember chatting listening to a mate talking about selling old gaming carts that were in good condition on ebay, and him mentioning that people would buy them, then send back an opened cart that didn't work and say the one they bought didn't work and wanted a refund. A lot of scumbags out there.
I sold two matching Intel Xeon proccessors once. The buyer cracked the die on one of them, kept the other one, filed a claim with ebay that i refuted but ebay still took the whole sum from my credit card and gave it to the buyer. Still annoyed by that. It was like $250. I dont think I've sold anyting on their platform since. And this was like 15 years ago.
Back in the day I purchased a secondary BFG 7800GT off eBay to complete a SLI setup. The second card would have visible graphics glitches and freezing. Thankfully the card was still covered under BFG warranty and I was able to RMA the card for a working one. Be careful when purchasing used cards. Some overclock them beyond their limits and neglect them.
I'm so sorry that happened to you. Sometimes better off not accepting returns lol
Sounds like they had a broken card, bought yours and returned their broken one
I bet I know; the shroud and fan probably did not fit in their case so they took it off and threw it away. Then when it "mysteriously stopped working" they asked for a return.
Always throw warnings in your listings that the serial numbers and "unique hardware IDs" are recorded before shipping. This will in no way actually help you if the buyer returns a different card, but it will scare away most people from trying it.
Should always keep track of the serials in case someone tries to swap it out. Make sure to have picture and video proof too with your seller name, etc.
2:18 pro tip: if you think the pc may crash during recording use .mkv format, as it writes all it's headers etc at the beginning of the session instead of the end, it's a little less likely to get corrupted compared to .mp4
As a Ebay buyer i bought an Amiga CD32 from U.K. I did ask the seller if the unit was ok. When it arrived i find the whole console was glued shut. The value hit bottom at once. Seller had no idea of this he said 🙄
Try upping the voltage a little, most likely it will be fine again. I've seen multiple 650's with random crashes that were fixed with a slightly higher voltage.
This is why I take pictures of both side of the specific card I am shipping to them, and record video that includes that serial number while packing it up. I make damn sure the car matches. I would not have processed a refund and would have presented all of my evidence to the site that I had sold it on if it was disputed.
We have the technology to send pitures, so ask for 1 to check the conditions of the product, if it's damaged, don't accept the return
Holy sh1t, this is exactly my issue, back when i was with my RX 560, basically the games would just freezes into solid color from the majority of colors showing in screen like the brown one in Dust 2 map.
additional note: the RX 560 is almost 6 years old, last time used it was dec 2023
As someone who is getting on in age, I love the history of computing and retro stuff when its been well looked after - so much has been lost to e-waste. I'd be really p**ed off it this ever happended to me!
Someone bought my working GTX 980 ti from eBay years ago. It was in working condition with original box and accessories .I got it returned as non-working 2 weeks later and did not have the original box or accessories. I think there are ppl out there that are stealing things from sellers and repackaging their stuff with it.