American Reacts to Royal Marines Corps of Drums VS Top Secret Drum Corps - EPIC Drum Battle!
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In this video I react to The Royal Marines Corps of Drums and Top Secret Drum Corps having an EPIC drum battle at the Mountbatten Festival of Music in 2017. I think this performance may be the most impressive drumming I've ever heard in my life!
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In a nutshell, one is British military, the other are Swiss Civilians. Even though their civilians, their skills are so well regarded, that they are regular participants at military musical events, like this one where they were special guests at a Royal Marine concert, you can see the rest of the RM band sat behind the drummers.
Steve, FYI: 'Corps' is NOT pronounced 'corpse' (like a dead body) - it is pronounced like 'core' (of an apple! The P & S are silent). 👍☺
🤣Yep, I thought it was going to be a repatriation service at Royal Wootton Bassett when he said corpse! But all these fellas are alive and well so it was just a pispomounciation🤣👍
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If the letters are there they will use them, they like to get their monies worth even if it does make them sound uneducated.
Thank you. You saved me from having to comment to correct that particular mispronunciation 😊❤
Technicaly "core" is the american pronounciation and "kawps" is the British, however they are often switched with British going more core and US going more kawps.
Either pronounciation is therefore fine.
One (RM) is composed of full-time active military who play drums in addition to their other military duties, and are from UK. The other (TSC) is made up of regular civilians from Switzerland who play drums as a semi-professional hobby. Btw, neither group is made up of dead people. They are Corps not a corpse. 😂
The RM guys all also play the bugle.
LOL. Yes. Pronounced "Core" but spelt ""Corps," the dead being spelt "Corpse" but pronounced "Korp-se" Don't you just love English?!!
The rm band is it’s own regiment they have to all be able to play two instruments one had to be a bugle. My grandad was a rm bandsman in world war 2 his main duties then was as a stretcher bearer.
TSC is made up of civilians however there is compulsory military service in switzerland for every adult male so not totally unfamiliar with military culture
@@Ollybus :)
The current His Majesty's Royal Marines Band Service was formed in 1903, currently consisting of five bands. However there has been Royal Marines drummers on every ship of the Royal Navy for over 350 years. Top Secret was forrmed in 1991 in Basel, Switzerland. Their style is similar to the American drum corps style, which you see in most high school bands and American military services.
The marines are military the secret drum corps are civilians from Basel Switzerland might explain their precisino😊
They are! Mae nhw’n Gwych bob amser!!!( They are brilliant every time!!!)👌👏👏👏😃🏴❤️🌎🇺🇸
Hi Steve you really need to check out British Army Flash Mobs. In the UK we actually have the Army in full uniform appear on our streets at certain times of year usually leading up to Christmas and they do a flash mob of military bands playing music. It is very entertaining and is a complete surprise when it happens I was witness to this at Waterloo train Station a few yrs ago and it was brilliant
A terrific combination performance , something I'd love to see live . The RM. band is always a great and they are serving soldiers of course . Truly spectacular .
I remember seeing the Top Secret Drum Corps at the Edinburgh Royal Tattoo in 2006, it was certainly memorable!
Steve Thankyou for yet another terrific reaction. This was so cool to watch I’ve never seen anything like it before. I hope you and your family are well? Take care 😘 🏴🇺🇸
Thanks Alison. I agree, these may be the best drummers I've ever seen. As for the family, we've been celebrating my daughters birthday, which has been a lot of fun. I hope you and yours are doing good as well. :)
Hey, that's the one I recommended to you! So happy you played it!
It's amazing.
Oh, and the drummers of the Royal Marines Band are the best military drummers in the world
Thanks for the recommendation and I agree they are amazing.
Top Secret is a volunteer drum unit, they all have regular jobs, but drumming is their passion. You need to look up some of their other performances, with the whole unit performing. It looked like the unit here wasn't the entire membership in Top Secret. They do amazing things during military tattoos.
Yep, including the ones with the pyrotechics on the sticks
That is truly the epitome of human co-ordination, skillset, experience and performance. Displays of this High Quality are so uplifting for the Human Spirit. Thank You to Everyone involved in this precision.
Why are they so good? Practice, practice, and more practice!
I used to be stationed on the same base as one of the RM bands, the drummers used to practice most mornings.
The Royal Marines Band Service is the musical wing of the Royal Navy and an independent element of the Royal Marines. It currently consists of five bands plus a training wing - the Royal Marines School of Music at HMS Nelson - and its headquarters is at HMS Excellent, Whale Island, Portsmouth.
Corps of Drums
The bands are always led by 'buglers', who are trained on both the side drum and the bugle as well as the Herald Fanfare Trumpet (natural trumpet); this section of the band is referred to as "the Corps of Drums", which since 1903 is now situated at the front of the band. Whilst similar to army corps of drums, these are members of the Royal Marines Band Service, although they retain their own rank structure. RM Buglers have a similar history to Army 'drummers' in that they were used to convey orders on a ship on drums and bugles, and would then mass onshore into corps of drums, though they were still expected to work as individual soldiers, also known in slang by the Royal Navy as drummers. These drummer-buglers trace themselves back to the raising of the Royal Marines in 1664 as a maritime foot regiment, with six drummers attached to its battalions, making them the oldest specialisation in the Royal Marines. Today's buglers carry out duties ranging from repatriation services (sounding Last Post bugle call), mess beatings (drum displays), beating retreat (marching displays) and concerts on behalf of the Royal Marines and the entire Royal Navy.
Top Secret Drum Corps is a drum corps based in Basel, Switzerland. With 25 drummers and colour guard section, the corps became famous for its demanding six-minute routine performed at the Royal Edinburgh Military Tattoo in 2003. With its invitation to Edinburgh, Top Secret became one of the first non-military, non-British Commonwealth acts to perform on the Esplanade at Edinburgh Castle.
Since its success in 2003, Top Secret was invited to return to Edinburgh in 2006 with a new routine. They were invited a third time in 2009 and again in 2012, 2015, 2018 and 2022. Under the leadership of Erik Julliard, the band is also responsible for the founding of the Basel Tattoo, a military tattoo show similar to the Royal Edinburgh Military Tattoo, now held annually in Basel.
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I saw the 2006 performance at the Edinburgh Tattoo you mention, it was excellent.
I think that's the Swedish flag not the Swiss
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Thanks, It has the right flag now
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It’s just hypnotic watching them isn’t it!
I must have watched this specific Top Secret / HMRMC video about 200 times now and it just blows my goddamn mind every time
Love how much you loved this, they are amazing.
Need to listen to more of their performances they do a lot of different types the bands of the royal marines they are brilliant
Bands of the Royal Marines are just what they sound like, military bands of the Royal Marines, there are actually 5 bands one at each of 4 Royal Marine bases and one at the bands training academy. Each has a Corps of Drums element along with the rest of the bands. They are the ones with the really fancy drum wraps and white helmets.
Top Secret Drum Corps are civilians from Basel, Switzerland who come together to do this as a hobby. They are the ones wearing black with shite feathers in their hats.
These are 2 of the best drum lines in the world and I've been told the Royal Marines have an open invitations to Top Secret to play together any time.
Edit: should mention for outdoor shows Top Secret like to bring the pyrotechnics too, check out either Edinburgh Tattoo one year they were there (2022 the were) or Bassel Tattoo
Hi Steve. This lot blow me away. You, like me, really appreciate the precision involved in such performances. So I would recommend you check out The Royal Edinburgh Military Tattoo 2022. In it you will see The Top Secret Drum Corps, The United States Army Field Band and The United States Air Force Honor Guard Drill Team. You will get precision overload. The Honor Guard Drill team were stunning. I wouldn't want to be the guy walking through the middle.
Thanks for the recommendation Philip.
🤗These are civilians 🇨🇭who are in Top Secret. 💕The other is a military band!💋They are the Best in the world!💋💋💋💋💋💋💋💋💋💋💋💋💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💋💋💋💋💋💋💋💋💋💋💋💋
The pipes and drums are amazing too x
My granddad was in the Royal Marines Band section after WW1. So proud of that.
My brother showed me the difference between the way the sticks are handled. and why they play the way they do (he's a amateur drummer and BIGGEST fan of Billy Cobham) My eyes crossed. He teaches his 5 grandchildren to drum, so look out for them in the future.. I just know what I like...
It's not just the brilliance, it's also the humour in the performance. I bet there were some memorable evenings after!
Re comment from Martin the magician, the Royals were NOT called Navy Light Infantry, they were raised on 28 Octobere 1664, from the bands of the freemen of the city of London and were called The Duke of York & Albany's Maritime Regiment of Foot. They faught at the battle of bunkers Hill and actually took the hill after other Reiments in York's division failed. Hence the Nursary Rythme, also after this battle was when the US decided to form a Marine Corps. The Btits nickname was Boot Neck & the Spams leather necks. Knowledge gained through " Loning Kindness &a smack on the back of the neck in the old days, during corps history lessons at Deal & Lympstone.
Where on earth do you see a battle ? its two different styles, one by a military band and the other by by part time musicians, who co-ordinate both disciplines into a fantastic combination of skill, precision and adaptability !
If you enjoy drumming, go and check out either Stomp or Taiko drumming. Not military but amazing skills.
...check out The Old Guard (US Army) at the Basil Tattoo 2017 starting at 3:25 (there's a bugler standing in the way but you'll get the idea.). Their center snare has written for Top Secret, who are no slouches...
Steve if this one impressed you, then check out the Mountbatten festival of music, it’s a concert performed by the massed bands of the Royal Marines, the run times for the ones on here range from 1.5 -3 hours.
WOW! Again!
Lots of us Brits see USA as or cousins big majority of Americans are from British ancestors ❤
Awesome reaction brotha! Please react to their, "Top Secret Drum Corps Six Minutes of Pure Art."
The stick tricks are sure to impress 😮💯
Thanks man. I appreciate the recommendation. I'll bookmark it for later.
Bear in mind. The marines are all trained commandos too.
Hi love to watch yyour reactions you are just amazing I'm british but live in New Zealand and you are making me so homesick love watching everything you post 😊
Amazing
Gives me goosebumps everytime I see this
First one gave me goosebumps....and then my hair on my face went up at tge end 😮
Did you also get a green rash in your left armpit like me?
I've commented on your London Underground video, answering your questions on it.
I don’t know how they keep so much in time. But I do love ❤️ the sound of those drums. It , this is going too sound stupid????? 😮 but if fills my soul. That’s the only way I can express those drums to me!!!!!😊😅😮❤❤
Thanks for bringing our attention to this. I was mesmerised .
They really are amazing. :)
@@reactingtomyroots I am irish but i have family in switzerland and have been in that city basel i had heard of the top secret Corps (core not corpse) but i thought they were a military band until today not civilian part timers.Because of job commitments there is a high turnover which means that the talent coming out of a relatively small city must be unreal
Beautiful
A must watch is Top Secret playing at the Endinburgh Military Tattoo,, where they have space to make formations, throwing drum sticks to each other....
I think I've bookmarked that from a past recommendation. I'll have to see if I can find it.
amazing 👍
I’ll tell you what. That takes some flipping hard training for sure!!!!!!😮😮😮😮😮😢😢😢😢❤❤❤
Watching the Swiss you can see why they make the world's finest watches (I've been on Swiss trains: the train departs when the SECOND hand touches twelve).
Corps is pronounced as 'core'. It's French, originally. A corpse is a dead body. 😂
In the US the correct pronunciation is Corps. We do not always accurately pronounce things the US introduced.
Technicaly "core" is the american pronounciation and "kawps" is the British, however they are often switched with British going more core and US going more kawps.
Either pronounciation is therefore fine.
@@EwanMarshallErm… no.
@@Mark-HaddowWhat did the US introduced?
Your watching the two best drum corps in the world, each have different talents, and styles but together there is no one who could beat them for talent and performance imho.
I think you're right. They both are amazing.
Fantastic display!
Come one. The Top Secret Drum Corps have this in the bag. They are playing with the but end of there drum sticks. 😮😢😮😅😊❤❤❤❤❤
Brilliant 😊
My nephew was in the pipe and drums,played for lizzies golden jubilee at the Castle for the royal tattoo
The Royal Scots Dragoon Guards?
The Castle is their HQ.
Also, the most successful military band on Earth. With the most popular music release of 1972, in the UK. But also reaching #1 in other nations.
@@Mark-Haddow i actually can't remember if Kerr was in the Scots Dragoon,i'll have to ask first to make sure 👍
The Top Secret group is composed of males ages 17-40 from all walks of life who have day-time jobs & practice in evening & on weekends. They are not military but civilians
Ohne Trommeln, keine Musik! Moin aus Schleswig-Holstein.
Very evocative of Bear McCreary’s Battlestar Galactica themes…
The Top Secret Drum Corps are based in Basel, Switzerland.
You channel should be called: "The WOW man!" lol
Corpse ?!
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Pronounced “CORE”
In the US it is correctly pronounced Corps.
Technicaly "core" is the american pronounciation and "kawps" is the British, however they are often switched with British going more core and US going more kawps.
Either pronounciation is therefore fine.
The American pronunciation is "core" (as stated by several US-specific dictionaries such as Merriam Webster - where you can hear a recording of the word being said) which is presumably why people say the "Marine Core" and not the "Marine Corpse". The British pronunciation is also "core" (as can be heard on both the Oxford and Cambridge dictionaries).
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I think the other top secret are from Switzerland i could be wrong tho
Top Secret are a civilian troupe whereas the RM drum corps are military.
You need to watch an Edinburgh Military Tatoo, it will blow your mind.
Practice makes perfect
Top Secret are civilians and for entertainment purposes, but the Royal Marines are also full-time serving military and the drums in military was originally for purely military purposes. Drums were used on the battlefield to send messages to the rest of the troops, beating the retreat for instance, and is why the drumming styles of the two are very different. I believe to be even considered as a drummer in the Royal Marines they have to be able to play 3 different instruments. Both greatly respect each other and have performed together before the Queen at a show at Windsor for her jubilee celebrations.
You’ve got to admit the sound of the trumps is actually mesmerising. I LOVE them ❤️🇬🇧🤷♀️🤷♀️🇬🇧❤️
It’s a hell of a lot of practice to get this perfect. Watch the 2022 Edinburgh Tattoo to see them in full action. You will be speechless. It was the best part of the show. Another point the Top Secret band members are part timers, they all have day jobs and this is their hobby.
We are SWITZERLAND we are THE BEST! ET C'EST TOUT! TCHEU!!!!!!!
They are demonstrating strength together along with all free loving democracies Stevo like you in the US and us in Oz (Australia).
The swiss group are often at the Edinburgh tattoo
The p in corps is silent, Top Secret Drum Corps are civilians while The Royal Marines Drum Corps are serving soldiers who work in supporting roles.
They're in synch because the Royal Marines Bands are the world's best!!!
You don’t say anything.
You just enjoy
The difference is the Royal Marines are British working military - the Secret Drum Orchestra are from Switzerland & are civilians -
Oh Come on. That’s not right. Flipping heck😂😂😂❤❤❤
HI Steve, good video again.
Thanks I appreciate it.
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You should take a look at the Scottish pipes and drums
Completely unrelated but I'd enjoy watching you react the the mass pipes and drums from the Edinburgh Tattoo
In the UK when saying the word corps it is pronounced with a soft P
hi you have been playing attention to the royal marines band and poppy day recently i came across this on you tube and thought you would like to see it. It will give you some insight to the UK's stance on poppy day :) The Unknown Warrior Story | The Bands of HM Royal Marines
The rm bands are the best band in the world. And when they are with the mass bands of the armed forces in the uk it’s even better
now you know why swiss watches are so good
Normally they strike sticks to the opposite drummer which is impressive too,I saw them when I was in the forces too many years ago.
The difference being is that the Royal Marines are soldiers who fight in battles.
"Hi Steve" you must watch Pipe dream by the bands of HM Royal Marines.
As you appreciate things like this you should look up The Edinburgh Royal Military Tattoo
Here’s the link of Top Secret and the Royal Marines performing before the Queen at her jubilee celebrations at Windsor. ua-cam.com/video/ngwbVcJSB8g/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared
We don't pronounce the 'P' in the UK mate. It's the Royal Marine Core
Should watch the Edinburgh military tattoo
The difference between the two is this. Hear me out if you're a drummer. The Top Secret Drum Corps are the bench mark of snare drumming World Wide and have been for many years. I did my music degree as a drummer 38 years ago and I was studying their patterns then. However, they are flat drummers. Based on stick technique. Reverse sticking and cross stick patterns with a flat out front drum. This allows for a uniform response in both hands. Brilliant for balancing the hands and development. This is visible in the footage. It applies to kit playing too and will only enhance your playing. However, not militarily based as they have never seen conflict. Which is the real basis of this discipline. The top and bottom skins are very tight allowing high response but little expression in tone. There is little point in playing Crossed Grip with a flat drum as this was introduced only for side drum because of the angle. Matched grip would be their justified choice.
Royal Marines play Side Drum. Balanced on the left thigh and creating an angle requiring Crossed Grip. This is military based due to a history of conflict. Allowing the right side to be free for the carrying of a weapon. As seen in the footage. The drum is also deeper in tuning and size. Top and bottom skin slacker in tension and more distant. This allows for more expression in tone, but is considerably more difficult to play due to a lack of response. Or bounce back.
The sound created by the Royal Marines is based on encouraging troop movement. It has been successful in many theatres. Thus the creation of expression within the drum.
The tonality of The Top Secret Corps is driven more by the movement of the soprano, tenor and bass drums. Not in line with military functionality. So therefor more flat in expression. As heard in the footage.
However, the technique of both groups is quite brilliant. And, the Marines will study the Top Secret Drum Corps rudiments with awe. As I did.
They are really into drumming in the swiss city of Basel.According wikipedia 3000 out a total population of 186000 are involved in drumming.I have been to Basel once to see the zoo but unfortunately don't remember much about the city itself.I did see basel drummers at an ice hockey game in La chaux du Fonds involving the local team and a basel team.When your finnished britain and ireland,switzerland is a country well worth a look because its fascinating.
Check out the Royal Marines Beating Retreat 2014 were the Marines are joined by Bands from the US Marines and the Dutch Marines. Link ua-cam.com/video/kbdHuq8Qne4/v-deo.html
Some 40 years ago a work colleague was retired RM Bandmaster. I suggested he had a fairly easy military life, He explained not only normal Marine training, but band practice too. As Bandmaster he had to be able to play every instrument. I bought him a glass of scotch and we became long term friends.
A glass of scotch will have that kind of effect.
While RM Band do some infantry training, they are not the regular Royal Marines recruits that progress onto commando training. The Royal Marines Band Service is actually completely independent from the Royal Marines.
They do not pass out for active duty from CTCRM but are the band playing at the passing out parade.
As you can see, women are in the RM Band Service but there are none in the Royal Marines Corps.
They do take on some military support roles when needed. For instance, they were in the clinics giving Covid vaccine doses
@@alchristie5112 Thank you for the detail information.
@@alchristie5112I used to be stationed on the same base as one of the RM bands, and their war time role was arctic warfare. They’d train each year in Norway and were highly skilled, they certainly weren’t just support staff.
@@ffotograffydd I’ll ask my son and get back to you. He’s a Royal Marine based at 45 Commando.
I have watched them many times. Every time I get goosebumps. The Marines are brilliant but the Top Secret Drum Corps are the best I’ve ever seen. No way anyone can or ever will match up to them. So very happy you did this video👌Mae’n Gwych!!! ( It’s brilliant.)👌👏👏👏😃🏴❤️🌎🇺🇸
I love Top Secret!! Steve, one difference between the two sets of drummers, The Royal Marines are military but Top Secret are civilians, they all have day jobs!!
Ta Se go hiontach briliant in irish
So proud to be British
I would imagine the swiss should be very proud aswell
What happens when you put the best of the best (civilian) up with the best of the best (military)? - This! This is what happens, pure excellence. ( It's pronounced 'kore', not 'corpse', by the way).
Steve check out crossness pumping Station better than it sounds cheers
Stunning synchronization, I don't understand it either. It seems skills like these are impossible for many of us.😊
I agree. While i think I'm pretty good at keeping time with a beat, I have no idea how they are this good.
@@reactingtomyroots There was a college football game in ireland today Notre dame v Navy 43 0.
The Top Secret Drum Corps are from Switzerland.
Than will never be beaten as far as in concerned ❤❤❤❤😢😮😢😮😅😊❤
Hi. It is not pronounced "corpse" It it Corps pronounced as CORE.