ooooo I was at that tournament! I did some free play with him before the tourney and he's really nice, taught me a lot about little mac :3 also the crowd was really biased towards him lmao, we yelled at every ko punch and stocks he took, it was awesome! love from France
I’ve been a Mac main for four or so years and so I joined my collegiate esports team and am consistently placing top seven at the collegiate tourneys, I’ve pulled games in a set against our Steve/rob (third ranked in my state), and have pulled some crazy games off and have convinced my team captain and the aforementioned Steve player that little Mac has serious potential
@@casonbuzzard1933 ayo you in any of the NA LeagueOS circuits? I’m collegiate too, rusted from a few years worth of inactivity but I made semi-finals of playoffs this season.
The thing about a meta.. is that it is absolutely silly to ever think it's complete. If this game lasts like Melee there is NO telling who might actually beat Steve......
Oryon has a falco secondary that he mostly plays for steve (he thinks falco has a better matchup than wolf). Then he plays him against "bad" opponents to train, or if he believes falco has a significantly better matchup
I remember 2 years ago Peanut was spamming up B's in games and it was always so sad to watch. He then eventually got out of the habit and became this unstoppable force. I think A8Z is in that zone
@@matteobailly537 nope he told me that it was for the infinite symbol, and like A and Z are the 1st and last letter of the alphabet. So yea it's like he knows everything (8) from start (A) to the end (Z)
@@GrixisElite Up angled FSmash seems to be one of Mac's best move to capitalize the zoom, which you can follow up with another Up angled FSmash or KO Punch.
iirc it’s what determines if your attack clanks or is overpowered by another, if your attack is within the 9% bracket then it cancels eachother out, any higher and your attack is overwhelmed and bypassed basically example: an attack that deals 7% will clank and cancel out with an attack that deals 10% but if the attack deals lets say 18% then the larger attack will just go through and hit you
I really don't think he's bottom 2 still, no recency bias He has some of the best frame data, frame traps, priority, armor, KO potential/setups, damage racking, etc in the game and a move that KOs sub 20, is unblockable, and has armor with many routes and broken setups into it like jab. First minute into the video Oryon goes down at ~27% and takes a free 60+% 😂
@phengmoua2389 Most of the low-bottom tiers don't even have that while they also have most of Mac's "flaws" which I do think get pretty exaggerated tbh Super heavies, etc get pretty destroyed I feel like in contrast while also having exploitable recoveries imo, and need to land like raw unsafe moves to cheese overall
@@lguy8476 But even with all of that, he’s still bottom two. His recovery is so bad that it keeps him down there. The other bottom tiers can at least get back to the stage with relative ease. Having a good offensive kit doesn’t mean much when you can’t get back on stage.
@phengmoua2389 Cap 🧢🥸 The playerbase was gaslit into believing that to make him seem unusable or something from the beginning of the game unfortunately imo. I honestly think most of the low-mid tiers have worse or comparable recoveries like Chrom, superheavies, etc without nearly as many boons and don't think he's at all relative or comparable to Ganon. A lot of the top-high tiers have trash recoveries as well but have very high boons and advanced metagames to make up for it
I seriously have no idea why these projectile characters don't utilize their projectile when he has KO punch. When KO punch pops up they are like.. "Let met really close to little mac, that'll show 'em."
They just don't play defensively or even remotely respect it, like at all. I guess that's what's frustrating, trying to throw hands on the ground vs little mac while he has KO punch is just stupid@Creepo_J
@@phengmoua2389 yeah the recovery seriously is terrible. His disadvantage is really trash but if you're hitting people, then you win real quick. A lot of little mac gameplay is avoiding getting hit and punishing
@Yela_indi He doesn't I promise you brother. Character has giga broken frame data, frame traps, move priority and armor, KO potential/setups, and a move that KOs sub 20 that's a unblockable and has armor. Most other characters need to land like raw unsafe moves to cheese like smash attacks Imo people were gaslighted into believing he's comparable to Ganon, but highkey his flaws are super exaggerated and I honestly think most super heavies, Chrom, etc have worse or more exploitable recoveries with way less mixups and way worse disadvantage where he has frame 1-4 combo breaking tools.
ooooo I was at that tournament!
I did some free play with him before the tourney and he's really nice, taught me a lot about little mac :3
also the crowd was really biased towards him lmao, we yelled at every ko punch and stocks he took, it was awesome!
love from France
Little mac and Krool have been getting better results than chrom
Low-key, Mac's recovery might be better than Chrom's
I like ホール KRool
@@bluskies3554 ha! Chrom laughs at your 4 winds …
@dogyX3 I been saying that for a while and was treated like a madman
Who?
That's certainly a tournament name of all time
10:23 The KO Punch not even blue screening is so funny ngl
I’ve been a Mac main for four or so years and so I joined my collegiate esports team and am consistently placing top seven at the collegiate tourneys, I’ve pulled games in a set against our Steve/rob (third ranked in my state), and have pulled some crazy games off and have convinced my team captain and the aforementioned Steve player that little Mac has serious potential
@@casonbuzzard1933 ayo you in any of the NA LeagueOS circuits? I’m collegiate too, rusted from a few years worth of inactivity but I made semi-finals of playoffs this season.
Finally, we got 3 different best little Mac players in three regions, we are now missing one from Australia. A8Z (EU) Tarakatori (JP) and Peanut (AM)
Bussy Esports Vibes? Aint no way 😭
AYYYOOOO😂
That name is entirely out of pocket!
The thing about a meta.. is that it is absolutely silly to ever think it's complete. If this game lasts like Melee there is NO telling who might actually beat Steve......
My local mac main recently took a set off Goblin (CFL Roy main) at one of our local tournaments
Oryon has a falco secondary that he mostly plays for steve (he thinks falco has a better matchup than wolf). Then he plays him against "bad" opponents to train, or if he believes falco has a significantly better matchup
I remember 2 years ago Peanut was spamming up B's in games and it was always so sad to watch. He then eventually got out of the habit and became this unstoppable force. I think A8Z is in that zone
1:33 Jamiroquai traveling without moving plays in the distance
The 8 in A8Z represents the infinity symbol btw iirc
Salut frérot
Coucou les gars
Another Little Mac video? Love it!!
I think the 8 in the pseudo stands for B, so his name would be ABS probably because little mac has a 6 pack
you're french
@@matteobailly537 nope he told me that it was for the infinite symbol, and like A and Z are the 1st and last letter of the alphabet. So yea it's like he knows everything (8) from start (A) to the end (Z)
One day people will accept what I've known since the dawn of man
Keep waiting ✋️
10:25 holy crap that would not connect had it not for the zoom from the armor
Zoom got the frame advantage boost, it’s hilarious when it works
@@GrixisElite Up angled FSmash seems to be one of Mac's best move to capitalize the zoom, which you can follow up with another Up angled FSmash or KO Punch.
That outro is so good. 🤤
very nice "magnifique" pronunciation
He cant keep getting awag with this!
what is 9% rule ?
iirc it’s what determines if your attack clanks or is overpowered by another, if your attack is within the 9% bracket then it cancels eachother out, any higher and your attack is overwhelmed and bypassed basically
example: an attack that deals 7% will clank and cancel out with an attack that deals 10% but if the attack deals lets say 18% then the larger attack will just go through and hit you
I really don't think he's bottom 2 still, no recency bias
He has some of the best frame data, frame traps, priority, armor, KO potential/setups, damage racking, etc in the game and a move that KOs sub 20, is unblockable, and has armor with many routes and broken setups into it like jab. First minute into the video Oryon goes down at ~27% and takes a free 60+% 😂
Little Mac has power and speed. That’s a threat to any character lol
Yeh there are worse characters
@phengmoua2389 Most of the low-bottom tiers don't even have that while they also have most of Mac's "flaws" which I do think get pretty exaggerated tbh
Super heavies, etc get pretty destroyed I feel like in contrast while also having exploitable recoveries imo, and need to land like raw unsafe moves to cheese overall
@@lguy8476 But even with all of that, he’s still bottom two. His recovery is so bad that it keeps him down there. The other bottom tiers can at least get back to the stage with relative ease. Having a good offensive kit doesn’t mean much when you can’t get back on stage.
@phengmoua2389 Cap 🧢🥸
The playerbase was gaslit into believing that to make him seem unusable or something from the beginning of the game unfortunately imo. I honestly think most of the low-mid tiers have worse or comparable recoveries like Chrom, superheavies, etc without nearly as many boons and don't think he's at all relative or comparable to Ganon. A lot of the top-high tiers have trash recoveries as well but have very high boons and advanced metagames to make up for it
MORE MAC!!!!
I seriously have no idea why these projectile characters don't utilize their projectile when he has KO punch. When KO punch pops up they are like..
"Let met really close to little mac, that'll show 'em."
You underestimate shorthop nairdodge
Even worse if mac parries it
They just don't play defensively or even remotely respect it, like at all. I guess that's what's frustrating, trying to throw hands on the ground vs little mac while he has KO punch is just stupid@Creepo_J
@@jebus067
Tell em
i would be happy but he got my boy naetoru
Id say your goats washed but your boys *been* showering since summit
Is mac a secret top tier like maybe his recovery isn't dragging him down that much
Oh the recovery drags him down. The players who are using him are just that good. Plus, Little Mac can be kinda hard to edge guard sometimes lol
@@phengmoua2389 yeah the recovery seriously is terrible. His disadvantage is really trash but if you're hitting people, then you win real quick. A lot of little mac gameplay is avoiding getting hit and punishing
@@adityakhanna113 Exactly. When you’re hitting people, you feel invincible. But when they catch your jump, down you go lol
@@adityakhanna113 it's terrible but there's still somehow worse recovery out there..
@@phengmoua2389 Who would win, Little Mac vs Minecart command grab at 0%?
Rohhhhhhh Lileuuuullll
ill join your stream again, theyre so quiet man
I think little Mac sucks but I’m gonna stop thinking that as soon as I lose to one in bracket
@Yela_indi He doesn't I promise you brother. Character has giga broken frame data, frame traps, move priority and armor, KO potential/setups, and a move that KOs sub 20 that's a unblockable and has armor. Most other characters need to land like raw unsafe moves to cheese like smash attacks
Imo people were gaslighted into believing he's comparable to Ganon, but highkey his flaws are super exaggerated and I honestly think most super heavies, Chrom, etc have worse or more exploitable recoveries with way less mixups and way worse disadvantage where he has frame 1-4 combo breaking tools.
He's just better
Rivals of Aether 2 content soon? ;)