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MIND BLOWN!!! Use GraXpert directly out of PixInsight (incl. AI!!!)
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- Опубліковано 16 лис 2023
- Graxpert is an amazing Astrophotography Gradient Removal tool - especially since AI was introduced. But now it gets even better! You can use it directly out of PixInsight!!!! MIND BLOWN!!!! In this tutorial I show you exactly how to do it!
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ATTENTION: It gets even better - when you have the newest version of GraXpert installed, it does not even open GraXpert but does all in the background and hands you back the gradient removed pic - THIS IS INSANE!!!!!! Thanks so much to Jürgen for creating this script!
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ATTENTION: It gets even better - when you have the newest version of GraXpert installed, it does not even open GraXpert but does all in the background and hands you back the gradient removed pic - THIS IS INSANE!!!!!! Thanks so much to Jürgen for creating this script!
Link to the newest version of Graxpert: github.com/Steffenhir/GraXpert/releases
Yes, correct. And yes, insanely simple...
Thanks for this very useful video. So I installed the latest versions and it indeed just comes back into Pixinsight. However, this is not necessarily a good thing. While my little test did a very nice job without intervention, I might want to modify the settings, much as I have been doing with GradientXTerminator in Photoshop exchanging the pics via files. Do I have to go back to outputting a file, opening Graxpert then saving and reloading, or can it be set to pull up the command window while still just reloading the image straight into Pixinsight? Whatever the answer to that keep up the good work. I'm very happy with the Mac mini M2 I bought in large measure due to your advice.
@@williamshaw9950 You would need to go the traditional way or even use DBE…
I started using it a couple of days ago and it worked great. To save in FITS is very good too. Thanks for the breaking news !
Perfect job! Thank you so much- this is really helpful
Thanks for informing us about this new option!
Great info. I've been meaning to try GraXpert for a while now, trying this out this evening.
Right to the point in this video, can't ask for better, thank you!
Thanks for keeping us up-to-date to!
Likewise!!!!
It looks like if you install the new update it just does it automatically now and you don't even have to go into Graxpert or save it. The AI method just applies all in Pixinsight with the "Ariel" update@@viewintospace
Hi, I've been watching your videos and I find them very explicit. I would appreciate one about PHD2 new calibration assistant in version 2.6.11 dev6. Thanks for all those vidéos. Ben.
A brilliant tip! Thanks for sharing!
Interestingly, Graxpert doesn't open as a separate application but backgroundcorrects immediately without the need to save and open the file again. The process console indicates that it ignites a Pixelmath operation ...
PS: just read the author's comment below. That's what it does. I have the latest version installed (2.02)
Yes, I has still a beta - it is even cooler that way, isn't it? 😊
And you can apply an instance of Graxpert to an image container to really improve the workfolow
Great idea!
How did you get the Toolbox to work with the Image Container? I cannot drag the Image Container to the Toolbox as you normally would with a process.
NVM I figured it out
Make sure you have recent version of graxpert and run it once outside of PI. Then in PI setup your Image Container. Open Graxpert script from tool box. You have to put an image name in the box (not sure it matters what image). Once you do that choose the correction method and set desired smoothing parameter. Then drag triangle onto workspace to create graxpert icon. Then drop icon onto image container. I've done it this way several times.
Hi Sascha, per your recommendation in November, I purchased a Mac system and now I'm trying to load GraXpert. It's showing up now as an Icon in my Download section and it's showing up as a script in the tools box. But I'm getting error message from Mac. ""GraXpert" can't be opened because Apple cannot check it for malicious software." Can you advise?
Much appreciated! Richard in Michigan.
Congrats on your Mac. I will send your comment to Apple to prove that because of me they sell more Macs. I want AT LEAST an Apple Vision Pro as reward...... 🤣 Now seriously, have a look at this video where I explain some issues when installing GraxPert on the Mac: ua-cam.com/video/KzlsFymRGV0/v-deo.html
@@viewintospace that’s awesome!!
Thanks Sascha !
Hi my dear friend I hope you can help me. I followed your instructions but once I pasted the repository link and searched for updates, I got this message. As if he couldn't find it. The message in question is the following:
"UNABLE TO DOWNLOAD REPOSITORY INFORMATION"
It looks like the server seems not to be too stable. Just keep trying - at one point it should work.
Good news - but looking forward to GraXpert becoming a fully fledged Process!
Well quite honestly, with the latest news that is runs fully automatically and hands the pic back, this is like a process- The only "issue" is that you have to install GraXpert separately, but this is really not a biggy.....
Excellent tutorial - thank you :)
I am wondering if anyone else finds the loading time for the latest GraXpert is at least double compared with previous versions?
Thanks!!! No, I do not find them any longer than before.
This is automatic in my version of Toolbox. GraXpert does NOT open but it does process the image. It then returns to processed image to PI.
Yes, I realised I still have an old version of GraxPert - will make sure everybody knows - this makes it even better!
You must have a wrong version of GraXpert installed. I'm the author of the script and normally it should not open GraXpert. On my Mac GraXpert is processing the image in the background, saves it as a new fits file and the script reopens this fits file and replaces the content of the open image with the content of the fits file. That's how it works or should work. If GraXpert opens this is not the intended behavior of the GraXpert command line.
But you must at least start GraXpert once to allow the program to be started (security restrictions on macOS).
Thanks a lot Jürgen - that makes it even cooler! I will check and yes, still have an AI beta - that might be the issue. As soon as I fixed it on my side I will make sure everybody knows....
@@viewintospace I have latest version and Graxpert still opens. Not sure what to do.
@@jamesdavies3223 First question: Do you really? 😉 Go into Graxpert, About Graxpert, the newest version would be Ariel (v2.0.2)
@@viewintospace yes I have version v2.0.2
Danke für wieder einmal ein kurzes, kompaktes und hilfreiches Video. Du hast aber offenbar eine installierte Version von Graxpert - ich habe lediglich eine Stand-alone-Version. Bei dieser Version scheint das Prozedere, wie von dir beschrieben, nicht zu funktionieren. Wo finde ich die installierbare Version ?
Also es gibt nur die Stand Alone Version - in PixInsight selbst wird nichts installiert - das Script greift dann auf die Stand Alone version zu. Wichtig: Neuste Version von GraXpert runterladen: Repository link: www.ideviceapps.de/PixInsight/Utilities Dann wie beschrieben das Script installieren und dann bei der Zange rechts unten dem Script sagen, wo Dein Graxpert File (.exe) oder App bei Mac liegt. Dann müsste es funktionieren.
Any thoughts about APP versus GraXpert and the quality of their gradient removals?
You do not have an AI version in APP, so the Graxpert function now is definitely superior
Thank you, Sasha. I’ll have to give GraXpert a try. And now I have your video to guide me through the process to do that!
Why can’t I find the toolbox under script?
You first have to install it respectively let PixInsight download it from the repository. Have a look at my dedicated Toolbox video.
Not working for me...At least the outcome. It just creates a new image but is just blank. STF not working, just stays blank and got no errors.
Q: Does it work with drizzled images?
Yes, it works with drizzled pictures. How about you try it in GraXpert itself - will it work there or does in also give you a black pic. If it only gives you a black pic with AI, try it in the manual mode - just to figure out when it issue lies....
Très bonne chose…c’est cool 👍…!
Great video. But after doing all this it made my pi slower. Is any way deinstal the grapexpert integration?
This is only a script which has no effect on Pi at all as long as you do not execute it. So whatever makes Pi slower - it is for sure not this script
@@viewintospace anyway I can deinstal that script?
@@drkumarharaprasadmisra5562 Sure, the same way you added it….
Hello Sascha, do you use this instead of DBE or ABE?
I was still hesitant prior to the script as I was just too lazy to manually switch to another software, but now this is a no-brainer - yes, this is my default now. Still, the AI might not always work perfectly, so it's good with the ABE/DBE we have some alternatives.
Great! Thanks.
Pixinsight repository link no longer seems to work- get a 404 error. So I can't install the toolbox.
Yes, that is normal. Just copy the full URL in the browser, then go to PixInsight -> Resources -> Updates -> Manage Repositories and Add this link. Then go in Updates to "Check for Updates" and it will find it. Exit PixInsight and it will install the script package.
@@viewintospace Hi thanks for replying but I get the same error from within pixinsight too. I'll post a screenshot when I'm back at the pc.
I don't get it.......I follow the instructions exactly, and when I check for updates, there are none.
Strange - please check in Scripts if you have already the Folder "Toolbox".... If not, perhaps the official video which was recently released might help you: ua-cam.com/video/7u6jIlmPZh8/v-deo.htmlsi=FQnGo2UR_lU1lzQL
No Toolbox, and I followed the instructions in that other video exactly.@@viewintospace
Would you use this instead of DBE, and right before BlurX?
I would use it instead of DBE, but if you use SPCC, this would come next before BXT
@viewintospace so process is
GraxP > SPCC > BlurX?
@@michaelclem3339 yes, exactly - have a look at my 10 golden rules video - that might give context
@@michaelclem3339 you might try it, but intuitively that wouldn't be right. I want gradients removed before using spcc to color correct the background and stars. cheers
Which version of PixInsight are you using, I was not able to get this to work in 1.8.9-2 Build 1584 Ripley (X64) 2023-9-18 The message is "Sorry, but this is not supported in current PixInsight versions."
I use the most recent one and it works fine.
Build 1588 here, and the Toolbox item is just not appearing in the Scripts menu. Although the package from the new repo is listed as installed.
@@kskorobogatov Install the newest version and it will work. Sometimes it is also a good idea to reset the updates, but most of the times the problem is the newest version is required.
Last minute thought: Use the OK button (the green checkmark icon). If you use the triangle from the script to directly process the image this is not supported by PixInsight. You can drop the process icon on your workspace in cases where you need to remove more than one gradient - this makes it more easy. Or if you are processing comet images and need to add this to an image container...
@@jurgenterpe4121 I believe what I have is the latest version. 1.8.9-2.
still learning pi but no toolbox installed on mine & i get the error 301 ..so not sure what i am doing wrong
Can you exactly describe when and how you get the error 301?
Sorry, but it doesn't work for me. Removing a large dark nebula portion of an image isn't gradient correction. This should be pretty basic to a gradient removal tool.
It is not that it does not work for you - it is that it still has issues with some pics / objects as it still needs further training. The have a site where you can send pics to them that did not work well and they use them for training.
Hello, I have GaXpert loaded as a seperate program so very interested in your video as to how to directly install this program into Pixinsight. However, I have reached a dead end as I do not have the option of ToolBox in the Script drop down list! How do I proceed furthur ?
Did you follow all the steps as in the video? Did you add the URL, after that click on Update, tell PixInsight to ru the update and then restart PixInsight? After you restated it, it should tell you that it successfully made 1 update.
Peter, for what its worth did you include that final "/" after Utilities in the URL? I had the exact problem you did..added that last / and it worked fine.
@@scottlord6832 I had the same issue as Peter, even though i had checked the spelling lots of times i had missed the last /!!! Thanks scottlord!
Before you can run the script, you must set the path to GraXpert executable before running the script in Pixinsight.
The only Graxpert folder I found on my C;\ after installing was under User\me\AppData\Local\GraXpert\GraxPert\ where I found a preferences.json - a JAVA script file.
Is this the correct executable? I could not find a graxpert.exe anyplace.
No, it should be called graxpert-win64.exe. You might have a look here on how to install Graxpert: ua-cam.com/video/AzDDafSrZ7k/v-deo.htmlsi=ciy-ZY-b_Wna4zZ-
@@viewintospace My system is Windows 11, I downloaded the Windows version of the GraXpert, and clicked on the executable to run the program. I see the splash screen and the program window. I then start Pixinsight and load the repository as usual. When I opened the GraXpert script and clicked on the wrench icon, I could not find a corresponding folder in my C:\Program Files or C:\Program Files (86). I checked this in and outside of Pixinsight. I did copy and paste the executable to C:\Program Files, and the script now runs perfectly. Lukematico alluded to this in his video.
@@robertgrenader858 Happy that it works now. Luke has a Windows PC so he is the expert there - great that he was able to help!
I managed to add the repository and downloaded the scripts, thankfully. but now whenever I start pixinsight i get a connection 404 error from that repository. However the scripts work very well
Given someone else reported this at the same time as you, might be the server was down at this time. Please try again.
@@viewintospace all good it's back up again
Thankyou for the update. However when you type the repository info and attempt to download you get a 404 error error
Given someone else reported this at the same time as you, might be the server was down at this time. Please try again.
…..still getting that 404 error….any new info?@@viewintospace
…resolved….
I'm still having the 404 issue. How did you resolve the problem?@@dambekpapa
@@dambekpapaHow did you resolve this issue? I’m still getting the 404 error today
The repository link responds with 404 not found
If it does it when you use it in a browser, that is normal. You need to add it the repository in PixInsight as described in the video. If the 404 happens in PixInsight then the script server is down. A lot of people had already this issue - just keep trying - eventually it will work....
Actually I am using it as a repository in PI and get the 404 response. I am trying already several times a day for more than a week with the same result. I'll keep trying.
That is strange - perhaps delete the link again, then request update, restart PixInsight and the re-add it again
Server must still be down... error 404
Where do you get this error? In the browser? Because that would be normal! You have to copy/paste the URL into PixInsight as explained in the video.
@@viewintospaceI’m getting an error that the repository cannot be loaded. And I’ve verified the address as well as copying it down and manually typing it in.
@jurgenterpe4121 Would you know anything? I head this now at least 3 times - do you have server issues?
Same here (404 in Repository Manager) - server is up but link not found, maybe it moved?
Update -- I removed the URL, did Resources -> Updates -> Check for Updates, then re-added the URL, ran Check For Updates and it installed.