The ULTIMATE Earth Defense Force 5 Review
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- Опубліковано 24 чер 2024
- THE ULTIMATE EARTH DEFENSE FORCE 5 REVIEW. You can tell that it's the best one by the way that it is, and also how long it is. Longer is always better, right?
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0:00:00 Oh~ we are the valiant infantry
0:00:58 Enemies/Buildings
0:25:27 Levels/Environments/Early Game
0:35:30 Sound Design
0:44:31 Items/Weapons/Upgrading
0:54:12 Ranger Class
1:01:03 Wing Diver Class
1:12:50 Fencer Class
1:18:03 Air Raider Class
1:27:41 Story
1:39:12 HUD and % Completion/Offline mode
1:42:01 DLC1, Mission Length, and Inferno Difficulty
1:52:41 DLC2 and Unskippable filler
2:06:56 Conclusion
#earthdefenseforce5 #edf #earthdefenseforce - Ігри
I swear, whoever came up with the idea of the humanoid enemies and how they work deserves a huge raise because they are so fun to fight.
Glad to see more EDF 5 content. I hope EDF 6 isn't too far off. I wish my friends would appreciate the greatness of this series.
Spring 2024 baby
Looks pretty boring to me, ps2 era game with no depth just shoot things.
@@Wierie_ looks can be deceiving my friend
@@Wierie_ This is the game series that actually listened when everyone wonders why games have these super realistic graphics if they play exactly the same. Why not cram more enemies on screen. The game has a ton of depth. If you play wing diver, you have to manage your power for the jetpack AND your weapons and each weapon (there are around 1000 different weapons to get) pulls from your power a different amount. Finding the perfect loadout for the mission is the depth.
@@uberculex maybe i was too quick to judge
i think a decent compromise for the loss of items would be that you lose weapon drops, but not armor drops when you lose. that way you can still make gains in hp when playing inferno (arguably the most important aspect when picking things up).
as far as the dlc packs, they were free on release for a while, which was nice, but also, the missions were meant almost exclusively for the "chaos" junkies.
If I recall correctly, one of the dialogue lines alluded to some powerful people who saw ancient descriptions of the aliens and thought it enough to be a threat and created the EDF. The aliens noticed that the native species(humans) were prepping so started their invasion early.
They actually found Primer tech, not just ancient descriptions
The line was something like "I was doing some digging and this isn't the first time the Primers have been to Earth. A wreckage was discovered 17 years ago, and world leaders responded by creating the EDF"
That also explains why Wing Divers are here before the first invasion when previous games in the series justified the Wing Divers being based off of the Invader/Ravager tech after the first war.
@@NamekianG Ah yes, it explains why the primers targetted edf anyway.
I just ended up moving the rangers sprint input to Y which made the whole ability much nicer to use. Also you can press the dodge button while mid sprint to lunge forward and negate the deceleration animation.
Ah very nice! Thanks for the info, I might take your advice when I'm ranger.
For me, I just use the keyboard, so that's always bound to shift, which works perfectly for me.
I also, rather hilariously, found out about the dodge roll to break out of the printing animation by accident, and that's far more of an accidental hindrance to me than accidentally letting go of shift, cause I tend to be a bit twitchy, and end up pushing space by accident.
I've been made aware of the Fencer dash+booster mechanic, and now see that it's a pretty important little trick for the guy. Not sure how I never saw anyone use that when online, but yeah, it's really good and makes him incredibly fast on the battlefield. It would have been nice to include it in the video.
also a quick kind-of correction: 2:06:08 it appears, as I'm seeing on screen, that the mothership bits are dropping items, maybe? Not sure if only certain cannons drop them, but either way my main point remains the same, every time we died we never had anything to show for it, I suppose the reason being they don't drop much and are so spread across the giant map you can't collect all of it very easily.
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It's nice to have a review on this game, giving it more visibility.
But keep in mind playing on inferno and on normal are almost different games, you don't pick the same loadout and approach fights the same way.
If you fail or struggle at a mission in edf5, it's either a loadout issue or mission knowledge issue, rarely hp or skill issue.
For the mission defend base 236 you explained it as poor executed, but this mission ushes you to play with long range terminating methods, for wing diver this usually means big core/big bang core + plasma great cannon spam to obliterate packs at spawn.
About the dlc missions, they are usually more difficult below inferno level because they were designed with ennemies and mechanics inferno level weapon can handle, so doing it in hard can be actually more difficult sometime because you have bad weapons (bad range/damage/rate of fire).
Glad you've been made aware, it's what elevates Fencer over even Wing Divers mobility. A good Fencer can just drive-by resurrect teammates in MP with incredible speed. It was necessary for me to solo clear the game as fencer.
@@Meta_Mage Yea I can totally see that. It's pretty nuts. I'm not sure I would have unambiguously loved it, however, given that it makes a certain type of build that much more optimal, pushing aside some of the other fun-but-not-as-helpful equipment.
I'm glad you found out about the Dash+Boost, fencer gameplay gets really exciting when you can zoom around the battlefield.
@@gungancrab I'm like doom guy on skates, and with friends I can easily just skate across and pick them up or be as bait and draw attention
Very nice video, glad to see more ppl out there enjoying the edf series, as to the story part you mentioned about the primers targeting the base and why, this is answered in EDF6 which is by far the most story heavy and largest of the game series.
There is no EDF 6 yet...is there
In the words of Ssethzeentach, "This series is in a constant battle to upstage itself, and somehow, it's still working"
I enjoyed seeing more content of in-game stuff.
I think that's what it's all about really, honest critiques in the moment, silly shenanigans. Playing the game! I look forward to the 6th one coming out and starting the grind at the same time as you and Scorne.
As always an amazing job diving into so much for every game you review! (You're good!) xD
I liked the additions to your "live session" clips you put in of you and your friends playing. It felt like you were letting us behind the curtain vs more "sterile" finished clips :)
My death scream: "UGHaahhhahahHAHAAAHHHhhuhhhhghhhhh... gurgle.... lol
So cool that you continue to do this series and looking forward to the next addition! :)
Great video, and fully agree with your conclusions. I am also really looking forward to the western release of EDF 6!
This was a lot of fun. I think the funny clips of you and your buddy playing the game kept the pacing up, and really, listening to you talk about a game you love makes for a much better critique in my opinion, even if hating on something is where the big money is. 😁
I swear I'm so glad EDF 6 has closed captions. You miss so much great stuff in these games.
Thanks for the vid. I got into the series with this one but remember playing the one on the ps2 at a friend's house as a kid. I will see you all online when 6 drops in 1 month!
11:18 the way I dealt with it as AR was using the 105mm or Lapis to take down buildings that obstruct my line of sight to enemies, so I can hit them with a marker or a laser lock on.
Love your videos man keep up the great work I really hope you get some more people coming into your Chanel
Thanks, I appreciate the kind words!
This is an excellent review :D
6:08
The Humanoid landing ships approaching..
A city leveled to the ground..
Me the Air Raider responsible..
There’s no cover..
Humanoid alien ship opening up to drop
Me, an air raider, and my orbital laser waifu: Cowabunga time it is
What a healthy friendship. Great videos. I'm enjoying EDF5 at the moment, and I'm looking forward to EDF6.
Cant wait for July 25th and to see your review of EDF6!
It’s Friday and there is a new Dorkaxe video to watch?! Oh happy day! 🎉 lol
Liked the video after hearing Anakin joke. Thak you sir for having human humor!
This has been my most Anticipated vid these past 2 months!
Not trying to rush you here bud but i am still waiting for that Iron Rain video
Me too
1:31:32 This will make sense in 6. 1:33:18 same as before but the Intel lady does explain it in one of the later missions, basically all of this started when a Primer scout ship crash-landed several years before the start of 5 and it led to the creation of the EDF and subsequent reverse engineering of what was Primer technology.
great review
Yooooooooooooo still didn't watch the vid but I already know it's gonna be good, also I hope you cover 6 because it's highly connected to 5 in terms of story
I'm hyped for EDF 6 for the West. I've had my JP copy for the longest time just impatient to wait for the West version.
My EDF death scream: ITS ACID! ITS *BLOODY* ACID! ghaaaaah!
THE GOGGLES. THEY DO NOTHING!
In regards to instructor Doofus.
There’s something nice in 6 for that.
Well this got me very excited, thank you!
I think a good way to get as close to that "new profile smell" experience you talked about is to start in Hard from level 0 weapons, since 5's hard mode starts at level 0 as well, but is double Normal's level by the end. And then you only use equipment and weapons up to the highest level you get dropped in a mission on that playthrough.
Also, I always change the Ranger's sprint to the R1 button because R3 was a HORRIBLE choice for default.
Don't worry, in 6 you only have to press it once and never gotta hold it the whole time.
The music in EDF 5 is just so damn awesome
He chose not to include any of the many instances of me singing along to the menu music
@@Scorne9000 can we get the singalong cut?
Liked, saved to playlist, downloaded and commenting. Always support EDF content!
Im an air raider main. And yeah, the weapon variety is overwhelming. Especially when you have two weapons you use in every mission that isnt a cave (i use a spritefall and an autocannon every outdoor mission)
The spritefall lady is my favorite character
Its impossible to main Air Raider and not bring Spritefall for every mission you can. The weapon is just so versatile(quick reload, near instant effect, shoots though objects like the mothership, really long range at higher upgrades, and powerful enough to wipe out or at the very least maim frogs and kill tele-anchors in one salvo.) and the announcer has, bar none, the BEST lines in the game.
@@gunmunz Nope, wrong. On Inferno Spritefall seldom works, as its power is not enough. Also is a chance weapon,, like most AR's weapons no guaranteed results. It has some good uses though, particularly against enemies being dropped from transports (on pylons it's more difficult to work reliably)
bit of a gamble to ask on a 3 month old vid, but do you plan on giving Iron Rain a try?, I really like its take on EDF gameplay would be eager to see how you feel about its changes and additions, I personally am curious how you will feel about the Exosuits
The water stuff was very blatantly a reference to "signs". I always wondered if the "frogs like human" thing referred to some other movie. There is plenty of references in this game.
1:40:32. I have only ever played EDF offline and as of now I have cleared every mission at every difficulty for every class except air raider. I also got all the achievements for completing up to 75% of the story. Maybe I am misinterpreting your point since englisch isnt my first language, but you can DEFINITELY get all the story achievemts during offline play. Watching this video reminded my why I loved EDF 5 so much and I cant wait to play EDF 6, thank you for covering this beatiful mess of a game
Yea someone else had a similar story. My main annoyance still remains: you'd have to essentially redo everything you've already done if you want to unlock more achievements than you currently have when in the other mode. If you have 30% completion in online but want to do stuff in offline, you'd have to play enough to go from 0% all the way to 35%, which is so silly.
3:16 - Behold! The Man!
Sooner then I expected, looking forward to the next 2 hours (maybe tomorrow instead cause I am sleep deprived but we will see).
The only changes i need is having off and online count as unlocking the same mission so I dont have to replay missions solo and that completing a mission on hardest or inferno completes all lower difficultys.
EDF 6 around the corner. i do hope they condense weapons by name. the "level up" mechanic actually get you you the higher tier weapon once maxed out allowing weapons to be just one name and one combat style and shows how it gets better.
Genuinely peak game, can’t wait to see what you have to say about it
Love edf content😊
EDF6 knocks 5 out of the park: A noticeable trend with mainline edf os that each new one is better than the last. 6 also has an absurd amount of missions, if you include both of 6’s dlc it is over 200 missions of content. Dlc 1 is more story focused dlc, whereas dlc 2 is RIDICULOUSLY tough stuff, minimal story
I think the dlc missions are fine, they are meant to be stupidly hard and if you want something easier you have 100+ story missions. Ranger and Fencer can be mobile enough and it is only really the Air Raider that is screwed without teammates (keeping ai alive or using certain mechs are an option on some maps). For the cave mission you had trouble with you could simply shoot around the corner with lightning weapons (those stupid special weapons that blasst of in all directions would work too) it may take a while but you can kill them while outside of sight.
air raiders and wing divers are straight up busted in caves. air raiders can literally control entire tunnel networks with turret setups, and the depth crawlers summons being instant means you can stack them like nobody's business. Meanwhile the wing divers' lighting weapons are literally the strongest usable weapons in caves period, with their plasma weapons can clear whole tunnels when you need more crowd control. sadly they nerfed the lightning bow capacities this game, but it's still insane in tunnels..
@@vla1ne Thunder Bows work very well in 5 and 6 on tunnels, as they did on 4.1, just Idunn was better at the time.
@@cris3f I know they're still good, but they feel less powerful overall in 5 due to the way they reworked bow charge.
@@vla1ne Weapons charge before using was a way to lower playing with WD to brain dead levels. This way everyone can use super powerful weapons and never be in trouble. In 4.1 that wasn't possible. All you could do was find a safe place or time to recharge weapons while not using the last shot or bit of charge. That was why using something like Gungnir was almost always out of the question, and even Monster-S needed some care.
Stupid decision from Sandlot.
@@cris3f imo, the 4.1 formula is better by far, having to charge it up before every use makes the weapon feel so much worse. In top of that, I haven't used the class as much in 5, but from what I can tell, it gets weaker the lower the charge, and that just disgusts me on a personal level.
Just got this entry on Steam yesterday since I enjoyed this entry on PS4, and can't wait to play it. And I have EDF6 on Steam wishlisted and will put it on preorder when I can put it on pre-order. And my most favorite class thanks to 4.1 is the Wing Diver.
WING DIVER MAINS UNITE!!
@@Dorkaxe WING DIVER MAINS UNTIE!!!
I've always liked EDF ever since I played EDF 2 on the vita (you should check it out). I picked EDF 5 back up recently and finally beat the game on hardest (the games pretty sadistic). I dunno, it feels like I finally "get it" now. It's just a great shooter. Thanks for making this series.
The one part of 4.1 I really liked and missed in 5 was when those tiles slowly came down and just blocked out the sky. If you had long range weapons you could shoot parts of them off or destroy them.
The humanoid dialogue: those voice actors did not have a clue what they were describing 😂
I noticed it in an earlier game, the way all of the bugs are just referred to as 'GIANT INSECTS' gave me that realisation.
For me it all lends itself to the surreal experience that this game series provides.
thanks for the big box of 'DANGER'
1:19:55 Give my fencer the ability to give someone a piggyback ride like a friendly Titan from Titanfall 2 and I’d go nuts.
The Bulge Laser sounds like a “Hammer of Dawn” copy 48:00
Good news for EDF6, on/offline progress is shared finally.
Supposedly edf 6 is coming in 2024. Spring i think maybe? But yeah cant wait for that. Watching these two reviews for edf 4.1and 5 even after literally playing them right now just makes me want to play more and maybe get my friend involved to play too as ive never done the online game yet
The completion achievements can be earned offline but the online percentage seems to be more for the measure of experience
Yeah I saw that from another commenter. Wild, but I guess it makes sense, just seems incredibly odd to structure it that way. At least with 4.1, you could do all of one difficulty on offline, but here, you'd have to do MORE than what you did online to start getting the achievements you don't have, so it's like...? Weird AF imo.
Ive always wondered about this game series but never saw any content about it, thank you so much i downloaded this on my ps5 and holy hell have i missed this kinda video game, a game desgined for just fun
This is fantastic to hear! Thanks for letting me know, it makes it all worth it!
You're good!
You're Good!
This game is really awesome, probably my top5 ,and i can't wait to play the EDF6 but my laptop barely staying alive while I'm playing EDF5 and I'm worried AF that EDF6 is going to finish it off.
For me, my laptop can't play edf 5, but my desktop could.
Making it so painful when my desktop broke after having it for only a few months, as it was put together using older parts.
I got this game on your recommendation. Love it so far perfect stoner game.
Love to hear it! Best thing to hear, glad you're digging it.
currently at 1:14:41 and its unfortunate you haven't found out you can side dash then immediately side boost to inherit the dash speed into the boost horizontal speed and travel a very long distance (about 6x a regular boost). if you do mention it later i will reply to this comment apologizing for commenting before finishing the video. but otherwise i will be very smug
i see you have commented about this topic. however it was not mentioned in the video, so i can still save my ego
Yeah that, and me not explaining the completion %/online/offline problems well are my only two big gripes with this video. Super bummed about the fencer strat specifically, though. If I ever did a combo video like I did with L4D, where I mash all the EDF videos into 1, I'd add something in about that for sure.
If you kill humans and aliens in the head - they drop more loot. Dash and boost are there to reinforce one another together.
I miss the Hectors. I NEVER NOTICED THAT DEROY HEADS ARE THOSE DRONE SHIPS!!
I'm glad they brought back some robots for EDF 6 although they look just as ridiculous as the frogs and cosmonauts.
I started air raider on hard as my first classin single player i loved it so much i CANT STAND wing diver or fencers
25:16 thats real life warfare now
I am sure that you are wrong about the completion percentage. I only play offline solo and I have these achievements. They are seperate for online and offline, but offline works perfectly find to unlock achievements.
If that's true, that's fucking wild. The fact that they put the percentage on the lobby page of online but not for offline is nuts. Either way, they should definitely sync up.
@@Dorkaxe fully agree. And what is infuriating for me, is that I had 70% offline, with achievements and everything, but that didn't unlock the option ro remove the online limits. =_=
@@MrChocodemon dude of course, right? Ugh such a frustrating problem with these games.
if you dash then boost jump as fencer you go much further then normal
Man I am so fking excited for EDF6's global release.
Have you heard about the voice acting change of sarge and his squad in edf 6? I heard it and it hurts me.
is there a way for us to co-op EDF5?
EDF 5 is so hard to me. 4.1 is my favorite followed by 2017 but I'm still grinding EDF 5 I just constantly feel underpowered
I totally get that. Especially if you start on Hard, the weapon RPG stats can really feel like they make your character weaker at the start. My friend said it took forever to kill red ants with his lesser leveled up gear.
@@Dorkaxe update. I've finished 5 and dlc as wing diver on PS5 replaying as ranger with my brother in law on PC and I love it. I think I have to say I like because of all the quality of life improvements
@@kaedeshirtoto very cool! Thanks so much for the update, I love hearing it.
I’m not sure why people would complain about weapon upgrades. If the argument is “the base sucks and RNG may mean you never get a good one0 then one can say “yes but in the old games, RNG could prevent you ever getting one”
Personally I got screwed by RNG in 6 as an air raider, first playthrough with my brother. Got no upgraded spider tank the whole game making cave levels a meme. I wouldn’t have even reached the first chamber before my brother had ended the mission. I didn’t really understand how the loot worked, and so the one spider tank I had for free was basically useless and we never went and grinded for more loot
However in 4 we both got slapped with multiple weapons literally never showing up, ever. We don’t even know if we are missing something. At least with 5 the fact you have a base version lets you know you’re missing upgrades. In 4 unless you look it up you’d have no idea.
i find it funny that the second drones being flying deroy torsos is quite literally a unversal thing
I believe the frog mission was supposed to have the humanoid aliens we see later on in the game. But perhaps due to time constraints, already recorded dialogue, changes to make the aliens to be armored mid development, or some combination of those, caused the aliens to be replaced with frogs. But they didn't update the dialogue.... so it ends up being silly instead. 😂
Frogs also have commentary later of being enslaved by the aliens as clone soldiers.
Its unfortunate because this probably would be less of a meme if the alien human models and frogs were swapped.
Even the rain joke makes more sense since it refers to the alien movie, Signs, where water is toxic to humananoid aliens.
True, but it's too perfect as it is now, though lmao. I wouldn't want it any other way. Plus the "they have mouths, too! It looks like they're talking" line makes more sense with the unarmored frogs than armored aliens, and the very first time we see the grey aliens the strategic command lady says the armor isn't armor, but a spacesuit, as oxygen is toxic to them or something, so I'd be VERY surprised if the aliens were to be naked initially.
Also, wait, I just realized. The English version came out a year later. Do they near one-to-one translate from Japanese or do the English dub people take their own liberties? If the latter, then surely it wasn't a mistake.
Having played through the Asian release of EDF6 in the last few days, I'll say that I can't wait for you to make a video on that game (as well as its two DLC's once they release) because EDF5 doesn't even compare to 6.
I think mine would be:
HURGGHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
wtf bro !? Been playing edf since IA, just found out now that you can actualy parry and send attacks back with the fencer shield
didn't devs felt that the players don't need weapon and armor limits mechanic in offline because players can manually increase/decrease their armors and equip any low level weapons with their choice that felt balance?
What I specifically say in the video is "how on earth would I know what missions are balanced around without checking online mode or referencing Google" and "I'd imagine medals in offline don't matter because of the lack of weapons and armor limits, but I want weapon and armor limits". Nothing you said negates my points. Changing my own armor or weapons to be worse is not what I'm talking about. That's expected.
I discovered edf because they added hololive decoys so i am kinda curious
Best Helldivers
Um excuse me. you mentioned in the beginning of the video that we are fighting frog enemies.....sur they are HUMANS! Also Iron Rain review when?
The weapon drop rate is simple. On all difficulties except Inferno, the Weapon Lvl Limit - 10 is the drop range. Inferno is same but - 50 iirc.
I wonder if the frog and grey voice lines got mixed up somehow.
43:36 you left out the satellite laser lady's voice?
MAN I LOVE EDF its si bad its good
My EDF death scream is the AA AAA AAAA battery vine (cuz I made it)
I'm glad you added subs for the ridiculous side-chatter :P
Shouting out the writer's strike was based 🙌
I'm surprised that you didn't use fencer's 'dash and jump' skill (almost everybody use that skill a lot), you didn't know about it?
I really don't get how there are apparently like a hundred things I didn't talk about in this 2 hour video that everyone expected. I've used the dash and jump at the same time, yes. Sorry for not throwing in one or two sentences about it.
its what you get for putting "Ultimate" In your review without knowing the even the more esoteric info about the game lol
@@theyouhacked1 I've since gone back and used the trick linkersjacken mentioned and I...definitely didn't use it before? I thought I did, but clearly not, you can fucking zoom around the playspace. Kinda nuts, and kinda lame I didn't see that before making the video. What I get for being a wing diver main I guess.
Small nick pick but why doesn't it let u create ur own character?
It really sucks they don’t put these games out on Xbox anymore.
Inferno is where this game shines. Spoken by another Wing Diver main.
I really like Hard and Hardest, but everyone keeps saying Inferno is best, but I'm not sure if I see it. Maybe I'll come around next game.
@@Dorkaxe Inferno is tough. Inferno is pain. But it's countered with how weapons progress. You get insane odds. But you get more and more insane tools. And you keep changing tactics with said tools against said odds. It changes game a lot. Which gave me and my crew a lot of good entertainment.
I cannot believe you didn't mention "strike my ass"
ah no mention of npcs storm team members 😩
I'm pretty sure there's some back Banter that happens with EDF 5 NPC soldiers.
that talks about a lone hero taking out a massive invasion force, single-handedly.
I think it's meant to imply that EDF 5 takes place several years in the future.
and that the edf 5 hero is a descendant of the previous hero or is the same hero.
Which kind of explains the conversation the soldiers have about the EDF having weapons specifically designed for this alien attack.
I think the reason why the radio operator is so surprised about your ability to shoot down ships, is the first few hundred times it was the military shooting the ship down.
now it's closer towards the end of the game most of the edf military have been depleted. and you basically just pulled a Goblin Slayer opening sequence ua-cam.com/video/vQlCHom6Qlo/v-deo.html
To save our mother earth from any alien attack!
Es que EDF carajos !!!🤚😭✋
Ugh uuuuuggghhhhh aahhhhhhhh!!!!!!!! 😵
Holy hell the EDF dialogue is killing me.
Too based™ overload?