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With Avatar: the Legend of Korra streaming on Netflix, the conversation and criticisms revolving around the series are bound to spark once again, especially when it comes to the BIGGEST issues fans have with the series. But are all of these really issues? Let's run through the biggest gripes fans have with Korra, from Toph joining the police force of Republic City to Aang being labeled as a bad father and of course the most divisive topic: Korra being regarded as the "worst" Avatar! And of course we can't leave out villains like the Red Lotus, Kuvira and Amon!
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There is nothing wrong with the legend of korra. At least in my opinion
You missed why we thought Aang was a bad dad. It wasn't that he favored Tenzin it was that he would go out of his way to spend more time/ go on vacation with Tenzin than his other kids
I wished they would have made a all grown up series
I see Toph being a cop as interesting character development. Not only does she take a 180 on her original belief on authority, but she even takes a 360. She hates authority, becomes a cop to improve it, realizes the system the sucks, hates authority again with a more educated stance. Character development isn't always linear, and isn't always on screen
It’s interesting but it definitely would’ve been more interesting to know why but I think what actually bothers me about it is that when she does appear in LOK’s present she’s now gone back to being a loner and hating authority. So he character did a very weird zig zag zig arc entirely off screen. Not at all the biggest flaw, but worth mentioning.
Kaiser Unique Most old people do that though. As they get older they take a back seat and refrain from taking responsibility.
They explain more in the comics
Yeah like I said not the worst thing ever, it doesn’t really distract me, but I could see why it would be a complaint that not one but two major changes in her character happen off screen
...I don't want to sound like a hater... but... you know...
THIS VIDEO FORGETS A FEW THOUSAND ISSUES!
Holy Minecraft-Creeper, Legend of Korra was so bad!
If you reall analyse it and know your stuff, you realize how bad it was.
Seriously, watch some Analysis. Search for the fact-based, not the opnion-based, then you see!
I love Korra but i've got three problems:
1- The first season finale
2- The love triangle
3- Not enough cabbages
J A Yes, a man of culture.
4- Korra is a marry sue and selfish
SAINT PEPSI she’s not a mary sue she has problems as well, such as ptsd and she isn’t always perfect
@@mia7061 she is spoiled and she gained air ending after loosing all her bending just cause but hey it's whatever.
SAINT PEPSI ill agree i didn’t like that at all and the fact that she lost all connection to her past lives still pissed me off but we can’t compare korra and aang, they’re different people and grew up in different times.
I think everyone can agree...Avatar: The Last Airbender set the bar REALLY high
I think that was the problem.
@FanOf Dueling How were they trying to fail?
But the thing is they made him a bad dad. It’s not part of the canon story imo
Yes atla is the supperier show but that does not make the show bad also anng was raised by the monkes the most peacfull people and Korea was from the water tribe
From what I've heard it sounds like the main problem would be that they only approved one season at a time and were constantly under threat of being canceled
In ATLA Aang consulting with Avatar Roku was a pretty regular thing. I really would have liked to see more of that in Korra - her talking with Aang more.
Yeah, at least one conversation between them before he and all the other avatars get the ax.
thank you. they barely spoke to each other !!!
Exactly i would have loved to see more Korra and Aang conversations and older Aang wisdom he was already wise for a kid and i wished they didn't "kill" him off by taking away all the past avatars i thought that he was going to come back somehow but he never did which is pretty sad
Why tho? Just for fan service, cuz your hook on atla. The show would've be repetitive. New era, new avatar, different barriers. Lok is an awesome show and so is atla.
@@isaachenry6640 you just sound like a korra simp lol
Zuko and Iroh shouldve reunited in the spirit world in LoK
Agreed
*Iroh and his son.
King Denominator we get it.
Just like the "first avatar" story, I personally think that would be inevitably disappointing. Same reason Rose shouldn't have been able to come back in Doctor Who.
Ye at the end of season 4
Your Zuko costume’s pretty good, but your scar’s on the wrong side
THE SCAR IS *NOT* ON THE WRONG SIDE!
Uhhh
Aren't you supposed to be in a coma?
You're gonna be so skinny when you wake up 🙂
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My only problem really was they didn't talk enough about cabbage. Still the show is good but every show has its problems.
I mean, the rival of Future Industries is called Cabbage Corp. The dude from ATLA probably switched careers due to his cabbage stand constantly being destroyed.
lmaoo bruh fr the only thing they had was cabbage corp and I was really hoping there would be more
Lol, seriously though its nice to see that cabbage man's business grew to be so successful in the future.
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They should have a statue of the cabbage man in front of the earth kingdom!!!
I remember when the spirits were a mystical and foggy area in the lore of ATLA. Spirits used to be hard to comprehend in a way. Season 2 just turned all of that into transparent Pokemon and astral projection.
Pokemon lmaooo 🤣🤣🤣🤣
God yes!! i could never get over that
In my opinion season 2 is Lok's Last Jedi moment. Because it basically just served to take a massive dump on the original material and everything that people liked about it.
Mystical spirit lore? Who cares! Just make them all transparent walking vegetables that turn into evil versions of themselves whenever the evil carpet is around.
When humans were first learning to bend, they had to learn their lessons from nature, and the world around them. They could only do it by being humble, keeping an open mind, and forming a deep connection with nature and the world around them. NOPE! Scratch that. Humans actually used to rent bending from lion turtles, until this one guy decided that he didn't want to return his rental. So he kept it.
One of my favourite parts of ATLA was how ambiguous the Avatar is. We don't really know anything about who the Avatar is or where it came from, which made the concept of the Avatar so much more interesting. Wait nevermind guys! Remember that random guy who wouldn't return his rental? That guy can't go home anymore because of the whole rental debacle. So proceeded to go fuck around in the forest for a little while, until he stumbles upon good and evil having a fight. In his infinite wisdom he breaks the fight up the, which apparently puts the world in danger of "*TEN THOUSAND YEARS OF DARKNESS™*". So this guy and the good carpet merge, and then have a fight with the evil carpet. The good carpet+random guy with stolen bending wins, thus creating the first Avatar.
Remember how in ATLA Aang being able to contact Roku and his other past lives for advice was a pretty central theme and quite common place? Forget it! The evil red carpet with the help of Unalaq rebrand themselves as the "*DARK AVATAR™*", then Korra gets the living shit beat out of her so badly it gets rid of all the other Avatars in the cycle. The obvious next move here is to meditate in a tree. Korra meditates so hard she becomes giagantic and blue. Then has a laser fight with Unavatu, and almost gets the shit beamed out of her, but Jinora saves the day. Then, after some contemplation, the writers decide everything has come full circle, so Korra opens the spirit portals so that the walking vegetables and humans can live together.
@@noahdrucker3076 you couldn't have describe it better my guy bravo with the exception of season 1 the rest were pretty terrible and it's a shame since I really liked Korra as a character I heard that originally Korra was supposed to have only one season so that could explain the whole absurdity of the later seasons
@@Dourios_96 To be fair, Korra is pretty hot. I don't blame you for liking her.
Even though it’s logical that Aang would be more invested in Tenzin, I don’t believe that he would neglect his other children the way that is implied in the series. For example, I can’t imagine Aang deciding to take only Tenzin to multiple vacations, doesn’t make any sense considering Aang’s kind heart.
YES
Yeah try telling these people!! I know we only saw Aang when he was twelve but that Orphan part isn't true. They were monks and that's how they lived so I don't think he really though much of it and besides didn't Gyatso practically raise him? And didn't he already know what parents playing favorites could do to their children from what happened to Zuko and Azula?! AND would Katara stand for that shit had it really happened?! The evidence that this doesn't make sence are endless and I could go on forever. I mean in one of the comics some crazy lady started encouraging benders to attack non-benders and through that story Aang protects non-benders until the end. Would you reckon that same person would neglect his non-bender child years later?!
How is to hard to understand.
@@postiveprincess6682 No he wouldn't, not intentionally anyway.
now you have a valid complaint
I just wish she didn’t lose her past lives...that hurt to watch so bad😢
Yaaaa that part was the only part I cried
it was sad she lost the pst lives but i mean you can kinda see it coming when she loses bending and regains it in a stupid way almost every season
Braden Mann ok salty original avatar fan
It was sad, but I didn't hate it. Starting anew isn't a bad thing.
@@samuelsaucedo6093 Well i mean Branden Mann is not wrong, it would be nice if it had a better way to regain her powers in an unexpected way of sorts. Cause in ATLA, we see big twists like: Oh! Zuko's finnaly good now, wich i know they gave some exposition but we really didn't see it coming after he betrayed his uncle. But in korra's case, the way she gets her powers back is kinda lazy, and they couldve done something better. Not like ATLA exactly, but use similar principals to atleast shock the audience. Like how Captain america lifted thors hammer in Endgame, they gave some expocision in AAU, but it was still a surprise and hyped us all. That is the key element that korra is missing
Personally I would say the love triangle was one of the worst things in the LOK. It was like the creators had no idea what relationships are like.😂
They couldn't write a good relationship and that's why korrasami isn't good lol
Like when korra kissed Mako when she forgot they already had broken up in front of Asami, it was just....cringe and the whole time all I was saying was "no,No,NOOOOOO OH MY GOODNESS.😣 Whyyyyyy. Oh my Lord 😫"
And it was just tiresome with them going back and forth and back and forth and then BAM korra and Asami got together in the end and I was left felling sorry for Mako(poor guy😢hope he finds the right one). Like his relationship with Korra was just not it at all and he was the main one suffering. Well I mean as someone who has not dated anyone as yet I can't really say much but still.
But it also happens in real life too
They could've done better with it but I'm fine with it
@@waldinaalcime9652 I'm ngl I felt the same way too. I have always rooted for Korra and Mako, but once I rewatched it again after so many years, their relationship didn't feel right. Both just being best friends seems better than them being together. For the whole korrasami thing, I thought it was cute really, especially since both of them hung out with each other most of the time during book 3 and became even more comfortable with each other in book 4.
The only reason I really liked the show was the fact that it touched more on spirts, brought back the cabbage merchant and had really good villains.
On the subject of Aang's actions as a father, I can buy that he might not be a good father. What I can't buy, however, is that there was never a time when Katara gave him a reality check on favoring Tenzin. That seems like EXACTLY the kind of thing she would do.
I mean, Katara would've understood Aang's necessity to bestow as much airbending knowledge to his cultural successor, hence they having to spend more time together as opposed to the other kids. At the time, you wouldn't see it at favoritism, but as his responsibility.
I can admit Aang want to pass his cultural heritage to Tenzin ... But i won't believe he only took tenzin to all of his tours
Then again consiser Kya and Bumi to be unreliable narrators and maybe if tenzin was the favorite of aang it never reached Zuko and Azula level also even Kya told korra that aang was 100% with when she come out
It was not Katara’s responsibility to change Aang. She could bring it up, but at the end Aang needed to make the decision on his own.
Or sokka
I can imagine the next avatar pullin up with AirPods in a Tesla
Noooo the next avatar would totally have big hair and wear leg warmers....very 80s
i can imagine an avatar just in a flying car
Yeah probably
That would be fun
Ah yes Avatar Elon Musk
“Aang doesn’t have a bad bone in his body”
*remembers that encounter with the sand benders in the desert
That wasn’t Aang that was Kyoshi taking control over him 🤣
fr tho was kinda annoyed about how he snapped at toph and the rest of the team hahah
CHUBBYCAKES yeah well he wasn’t in a good place mentally at the time
@@dripdoriya1707 yahh true
CHUBBYCAKES lol everyone in the show does that at some point. Tbh I’m really worried about these kids mental health
I don't think The Legend of Korra was bad. I just prefer Avatar: The Last Airbender
I like this
Dame
Why not go all the way and say that the live action movie isn't that bad either
@@julianmoreno2922 Because Korra and the live action abomination aren't even in the same realm
Same
Aang literally felt isolated as a kid when everyone found out he was the avatar l, I highly doubt his kind heart would allow him to do the same to his own children.
And even if he did katara would notice and tell anng not to.
He probably wanted good for Tenzin, and becasue he never felt parents' love, he just didn't know he's hurting his kids. Aang just wanted airbenders to grow again.
@@rojczan1399 but katara would notice and tell anng tho
@@Frazier16 i mean we doesn't really know how Aang changed in these years, remember in ATLA we saw him before actually becoming a full-fleshed avatar. He might became stubborn or way more serious.
@@rojczan1399 well he would become more serious with time but he wouldn't become that serious and stern. Katara wasn't any of those things and she was older than anng
In addition to the Aang being a bad father complaint, Aang was literally creating and running a city and dealing with worldwide politics. Even in real life, politicians and generally people in the spotlight have very little time to be a good father.
That's true. It's relative to king T'Chaka saying "you're a good man with a good heart, and it's hard for a good man to be king."
Aang tried to be a good man, a good father, AND a good Avatar. One person just isn't capable of all of that
Yea the video says aang was a bad father when he was a absent one. A bad father wouldn't care when sang saved the world he just couldnt kick back and live his life with katara he his duty is to the world not his family.
🔥 *Hot Take:* 🔥
A lot of people say Mako is terrible to date but they turn a blind eye on how toxic Korra was in their romantic lives also. Even to Asami when they were friends and she kept that fact that her and Mako were having a thing. She didn't care for her in that situation.
Korra (on 3 separate occasions): "You would take his side" "Who's side are you on?" "I can't believe you're on his side"
Mako: "What is it with you and sides?"
Also she used Bolin to try to make Mako jealous. She played with both their hearts and poor Bolin was her biggest casualty.
I say *her* and not them.(Mako and Korra) Because he refused her advances and called her out for using his brother. *SHE* kissed him unconsensually. Mako was innocent there.
Yuki James Um no? I was raised sheltered and if anything it made me the opposite of restrained once I had full control of my life.
Mako is great to date if you ask Wu
Because unlike Mako Korra at least tries to make things right.
If you guys didnt know, Kora's parents weren't going to let her keep her dog until Katara said all Avatars have animal companions. Katara is like the best master in any Avatar series because she 100% supported Kora like no tomorrow.
*Korra
@@imluigi5934 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
because korra is her husband in the past life
I know
My biggest issue was the relationship between Bolin and Eska. It treats female on male relationship abuse as a laughing matter. That was the only thing that made me go "WTF??" and that I can't find any justification for.
Not unlike real life, sadly
I mean Zhu Li and Varrick have a fairly toxic relationship where boss/subordinate abuse is treated as a joke and them getting into a relationship at the end is seen as romantic….this show isn’t really the paragon of healthy, stable relationships let’s be real.
@@TahtahmesDiary Yeah, that is true
@@TahtahmesDiaryyeah but then he starts treating her as an equal. They make sense. Opal and Bolin were hard to watch it was so bad.
My only problem with lok was the second season cz fstly it was so damn boring at the start and it was kinda everywhere their was so many plots in this one plot to many thing happening and also at the I was not a big fan of the BOOMS and BEEMS
Something that bothers about Aang being a "bad father" is how implied it is that Aang was _disappointed_ at the fact Bumi didn't bend at all. I call bullshit.
Aang and Katara. _Aang_ and _Katara._ Two people close to SOKKA _AND_ SUKI. THERE'S NO WAY THEY WOULD'VE ACTUALLY CARED IF THEIR SON DIDN'T BEND.
My headcanon is:
Aang didn't put his attention in Tenzin on purpose,it was the excitement about that small gleam of hope to recover the Air Nomads.
Aang never minded Bumi being a non-bender,he told lots of stories about Sokka and Suki and all the awesome non-benders out there.
It wasn't Aang. It was *society.* Imagine being a kid,imagine hearing tons and tons and TONS of stories about your father the Avatar who saved the world when he was 13 years,on top of that your mother is a healer,Waterbender master _and_ bloodbender. That thing will get to you,that will make you feel bad,cause it isn't your parents's fault but you do live in their shadow,sadly.
_But no. I refuse to believe Aang was a bad father._
Donatelia Sakura
you and I are on the same page.
See, you’re plugging holes in the bad writing. I am so sick of people defending this plot with “it makes Aang human”
Aang was already human. He was very flawed in the original. I’m kind of irked by this video stating otherwise. He flaws presented in korra make him a monster. Just utterly unlikable and changes his ending to a bleak and meaningless one
It is genuinely insulting
You didn’t understand it at all. Aang was flawed from the very first season, I agree. But what they did in Korra actually served to show a lot. From a thematic perspective, it makes sense. Aang has always been afraid since the air nomad culture was lost, but he loved Katara, otherwise he would have married a nonbender and had MANY kids. He wanted kids in order to mainly rebuild the air nation, so to have his FIRSTBORN come out a non-bender must have been disappointing , then Kya comes out a WATERBENDER, right now Aang knows he does not have much time left and still no air bender, and then there’s Tenzin, the one he’d been waiting for. All I’m saying is Aang never hated Bumi nor Kya, it’s just that he never gave them enough attention growing up, something Katara couldn’t mellow out. He was the Avatar, he had many duties, he did not completely ignore his family but he also didn’t make enough time for them, and when there was time, he’d dedicate it on Tenzin because rebuilding that culture was his biggest priority. Probably why Katara chose to be a stay at home mom. Heck, even Aang wrote a book of stories to Tenzin. So it does make sense that he wouldn’t be the perfect Avatar. Many children who grew up with Aang always thought he was the perfect character, or probably that his flaws are passable. I mean, who wouldn’t hide a letter to prevent losing all his friends? Or look for girl’s attention? But as an adult, you have to see the broader picture, he was just a kid then, now he’s an adult with a lot more responsibilities. He stopped the war, yes, but there was still more work to be done. All I’m saying is it makes sense that Aang would do this, given his nature from the previous series. While he was friends with non-benders, he didn’t explicitly hate or dislike his other children, he just didn’t give enough time with them and when told from a kid’s perspective, this can often come out as dislike. Aang just had other priorities. He was an adult, you didn’t expect him to remain a goofy lovable dork to the very end. ThatKs just unrealistic.
Henry Wayne except Katara would have divorced him for this. You’re writing in context the show doesn’t. So basically the hero who lost everything in the original died a bitter sad ending where two of his children hate him. Aang was always the most inclusive member of the team. He had a religious order of non benders dedicated to nomad culture. Nomad culture is not just bending
@@henrywayne5724 the adult thing doesnt work with aang as he was the friendliest person in the entire series and was all about bonding. he hates being excluded why would he exclude HIS ENTIRE FAMILY FROM VACATION except Tenzin. which they said he did this all the time. Aang the most diplomatic and considerate person to the point he doesn't kill any of his villains even as the supposed changed adult aang that doesn't have time to take his whole family on trips.
For me toph hasn't changed at all since she became an adult - she wasn't tolerating any bullshit as a kid, and still doesn't as an adult. Exactly as a cop
More over, she was raised by overprotecting parents, that should leave a mark, which can be evident when she becomes the cop of no random city, but the city of 'Twinkle toes', one of her best friends, a project that was intended to bring understanding between nations after a damn 100 years war.
I guess we could say that is just her personality but we do know that she has change. He accept that friendship is not equal to being protective and to let people into your life is not a bad thing, but a good one. The idea of love=overprotection of course came from her parents which basically locked her in her..... em.. what was it? House, state, mansion?? I dont remember but you get me xD
The thing is thats why toph chose to live freely going to earth bending matches as we see in the first episode that she appears in. Thats her way of freedom. By becoming a cop is the complete opposite, but yes as the video mentions, she was raised buy parents who were privileged, he witnessed the huge differences between social status and she witnessed the corruption of Ba sing se. Plus republic city was her friends city basically and adding all of that up, it makes sense.
However Toph really goes through an "invisible" flat arc in the time between the two series, as she returns living freely however she wants in the wild. He has known the world of order and justice really good as she was the chief. However she still chose to go on the wild. (Which i think is really cool).
But her arc about the meaning of love remains: she started a family, she lets korra hug her, and she hugged Opal when they reunite in book 4.
Yes that *totally* excuses her for being a shit parent. Next thing you'll say is Ozai was just misunderstood.
@@snikerz5886, it’s not an excuse but Toph carries her own trauma from the way her parents abused her so she goes to great lengths to be the opposite of what her parents were towards her.
@@Andyatl2002 Exactly. I hate the "toph bad parent" complaints. She had controlling parents, so became a carefree parent, which unfortunately led to a lot of neglect for Lin. I dont know why ppl get mad that the Gaang weren't amazing parents. They all travelled to world and are victims of a global war that disrupted all their ways of life. Aang's whole people died, Katara saw her mom dead, Sokka and Katara were left to fend for themselves because their dad had to go to war, and Zuko's father... is well pure evil, scorched his sons face, and his family is generally awful besides for Iroh. They never had stable home lives.
I heard a great description of the two series: Avatar is about a person learning to become the avatar. Korra is about the avatar learning to become a person.
What???
Naw Korra is about an idiot trying to not be an idiot but failing
@@kerebharrison459 lok isn't that bad. I don't think it's perfect. Avatar: The Last Airbender isn't perfect either.
@@kerebharrison459 Grow up.
@@kerebharrison459 Facts
I actually liked the idea of korra being a hot headed fist girl that used brut force and really struggled with her spiritual side, and because of that struggled with airbending, however they wet about it all wrong, they shouldn't have just given korra airbending when she lost her powers at the end of season one, they should have had her lose all her bending and in season 2 use seeing her struggling without her bending and through her struggles appreciateing her bending more and grow spiritual and that unclockes her avatar stay where she meets aang and gets her bending back including air since she's started understanding bending and started to appreciate the spiritual side more
That’s what I thought was gonna happen when she lost her bending. Then it just randomly came out and she was like just like huh, guess I’m a master air bender now as well as a spiritual guru... what🤨
Yeah they should have went with that route indeed.
that would’ve made sense. unfortunately, there was a force that was influencing the writers to make decisions that didn’t make sense.
@@thewindupsweetheartp much sums up the entire korra series, still baffling
What makes the Avatar the last Airbender great?
*The story
*Animation
*Fight scenes
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* A life-changing adventure with Zuko.
I feel the fight scenes had more meaning in ATLA like the Crossroads of Destiny it could have gone either way. Instead with Korra you knew she was gonna lose one time then win (except her first fight with Amon that was good) And the villains were like proper antagonists with like a reflection of the protagonist for them to learn from them.
But overall Zuko was such a good character
Don’t forget the characters
But the fighting is better in Korra the Last Airbender
Toph didn't have a life changing trip:"(
My big thing with Aang being a bad dad and favoring Tenzin over his other kids is he hated being treated differently because he was the avatar so why would he single out his kids like he was???
He was an orphan who found his father figure's bones after discovering his people had sufferered a genocide, and he was forced as a child soldier to fight the grandson of the responsible for the genocide, to end 100 years of war, with 9 months to prepare.
Following that, he became a fully realised Avatar age 12 and had to guide the entire world for the next 50 years, all whilst being the only person on the planet that could pass on an entire culture to the next generation.
Not only that, if he does not have an airbending child, and raise that child to become a fantastic airbender, the next Avatar will not have an airbending teacher.
I think it's pretty realistic for his character to favour the airbending child over the others. The sheer stress of all that responsibility might make you slightly more inclined to favour, you know, the future of your entire culture, instead of the other two, from a character perspective.
@@lucasrobin2788 Very true
@@lucasrobin2788 Yes, I think he would have favored Tenzin but to the extent that his other 2 children resented him would not have worked. But that storyline really didn't bother me that much.
@@midori7089 - I saw it more as Bumi and Kya resent Tenzin, because he was repeating the neglect with his own children. Tenzin was too busy with his career, and just viewed his children as Airbenders. He was ignoring their distinct personalities and individual needs, which was pitting them against each other.
@@ChienaAvtzon Exactly. Aang probably did favor Tenzin, but as kids Kya and Bumi never grasped the importance of Tenzin learning and preserving Air Nomad culture. While Aang was spending time with Tenzin for justifiable reasons, his kids probably only saw it as favoritism. They probably don't resent Aang for it, but not only do they still probably not fully grasp his intent, but also see that same problem in Tenzin and his children.
They did Sokka so wrong , he was my favorite character .
what? he was a cool sokka :v
He just died, But I found it interesting how he died. Last time we heard of him was when he fought the red lotus with ten in and probably died a hero but I don’t think they talked about it due to korra feeling like she was the reason he died
Wtf, sokka is barely touched in the legend of korra, the show is not about him, his figure hasn't been ruined in no way
Yeah now the only comedic relief we have is meelo who is more weird than anything
Same he’s the best
My personal three problem of LoK; unnecassary romance; aang bad father troupe, Korra being cooped up in the South Pole while mastering bending instead of journeying and immersing their culture and belief which is the point of maintaining a balance between nations by understanding their point of view
Underrated comment.
Finally, someone who understand me!
why would it matter if she went around the world to train, she could already bend 3 elements when she was 6. extremely mary sue
@@mentallyillfinger Uh... how is she a Mary Sue?
The definition from Wikipedia: "A Mary Sue is a type of fictional character, usually a young woman, who is portrayed as unrealistically free of weaknesses."
How on earth can you look at Korra and say that she is unrealistically free of weaknesses? She has loads!
Korra's character challenges was NEVER about being able to bend Water, Earth, and Fire. In Book 1, it was her Airbending. In Book 2, it was about her Spirituality. In Book 3, it was about her responsibility begin a new Air Nation. In Book 4, it was about her conflict resolution skills. Her Water, Earth, and Firebending abilities don't help her resolve these conflicts at all - she has to grow and overcome different obstacles.
Hmm... sound familiar? Airbending, Spirituality, Air Nomad Culture, and Conflict Resolution. Aren't those... all of Aang's strengths that he began the original show with? And yet I don't see you complaining that Aang was a Mary Sue, because he began with all of these strengths.
Aang's weaknesses were his Water, Earth, and Firebending. Korra's weaknesses are Airbending, Spirituality, and Confict Resolution. An Avatar needs all six of these to be a good Avatar, and for some reason you see Aang beginning with three of them as OK but Korra beginning with three of them as bad.
TLOK has plenty of issues. Korra being a Mary Sue is just flat out not one of them.
@@lucasrobin2788 Yeah, she has weaknesses, BUT SHE NEVER HAS TO ACTUALLY DO ANYTHING TO EARN BACK HER ABILITIES OR GET OVER THOSE OBSTACLES. Literally everything is done for her or given to her, to her bending and the people around her. There is no reason why she is able to go into the spirit world, it's just given to her along with bending. Please give me one reason why she should have been able to go to the spirit world when she had 0 ability to meditate. She's impatient and hot headed, and apparently she doesn't need to change that behavior in any way to get those powers. It really cheapens Aang's journey into the Spirit world and what he nearly sacrificed to get the Avatar State.
Her personality isn't a weakness. It just makes her a terrible person. She constantly does horrible things and people around her give excuses an just allow her behavior to continue because a) shes the avatar and b) they're scared of her.
Bella Swan from Twilight had similar excuses. "she's not a mary sue, bella is clumsy! she's also brooding!" when those things just make her more appealing to the characters. Why do you think Korra fucks her entire friend group? Why do you think Tenzin just ignores Korra destroying 1000 bending equipment given to him by his father, the last of the airbenders? It doesn't matter if she has negative attributes if they don't actually effect how characters see her.
literally the only time I saw any of the characters disliking korra was when Mako was physically scared of her. Remember when they broke up but Korra conveniently lost her memory, and Mako was considering telling her they broke up? He was frightened of her. This gives me serious abuser vibes, her entire personality is toxic, but no one apparently cares. I will agree the last season was the best, because she actually went through some sort of personality change, but it just served to make her an even worse judge of character and incompetent.
I don't hate the whole show. I do like SOME things. But Korra herself is just the worst character they could have chosen to be the Avatar.
I would pay money to erase my memory of Korra. You probably think I'm being overdramatic but I watched TLOK 3 times, I liked it the first time, thought it was okay the second time, then the third I realized I hate Korra. And every time I think of ATLA, I'm always reminded of Korra now. I wish I never watched the show, honestly. I don't enjoy hating a character this much, truly, because I love the world of ATLA.
I feel like Aang wasnt the greatest father because he never really even had proper parents raise him. He grew up in a time when Air Nomad children were not raised by parents but by "mentors" or "teachers"
Aang was a great teacher, but probably didn't know how to actually parent on the emotional level.
That's just my take on it tho.
I've also seen arguments that since Aang WAS his culture at the time, having an airbender child meant he had to impart all his culture to his son. In doing so, he may have alienated Kya and Bumi because he was so intent on preserving Air Nomad culture. It's hard to balance your three children when you have to be a "normal parent" to 2 of them and a cultural instructor (but like, the ENTIRE culture) to another one. Just in explaining the customs he would have to spend more time with Tenzin, and of course their connection through airbending itself would at least tempt Aang to prefer him. It may be that Aang simply isn't the greatest parent, but to those who want Aang to be a good father, there are potential "reasons" why his other two children felt neglected the way they did.
Aang? Unable to connect as a parent on tne emotional level? After seeing how terrible katara felt growing up without her mom, you think he would let his kids have a bad impression of him? You think *katara* would let aang be a bad dad? No, it just doesnt sit right with me. Aang would undoubtedly give tenzin more attention, but to straight up alienate kya and bumi is disrespect to aangs character.
This could also be summed up as bryke, once again, stripping down avatar to boost up TLOK, its happened more than once.
Menkir Dennis No one's saying Aang was the worst father. He just wasn't perfect.
He definitely did
That’s called goku syndrome
They turned The Order of the White Lotus from a badass secret group to the next Avatar's babysitter.
And that's a problem?
@@amazingbro6723 and that's a question?
@@joaquiaquino9529 yes
That is the whole reason the red lotus exist.. zaheer even points in out!
It makes sense since most of the old members are dead at that time but it still was underwhelming
I don’t think he favourited Tenzin in the way we think. I think he loved his children equally but he had the duty of passing what’s left of the air nomad traditions. Had he not done that, a whole culture would’ve been forgotten and Tenzin wouldn’t have been able to teach the new air benders (the ones from harmonic convergence) said culture. So I believe that he had to be with Tenzin and teach him these things the whole time, but unfortunately at the cost of neglecting his other children.
true. aang had to pass down a thousands of years old culture and techniques to his only airbender, and also he had way little time ( he already lived more than a 100 years by the end of atla, he must have understood)
Honestly I'm surprised he only had 3 kids
Exactly, he had to have spent more time with Tenzin to do that or Tenzin would grow up knowing nothing about Airbending.
plus I think he didn't want to force all his children to bear the weight of that responsibility so the best he could do was make it fun for tenzin to be an airbender
@Jaheim care all air nomads are (were) Airbenders.
One of my biggest gripes with the show was the changes made to bending. In TLA mastery of an element seemed genuinely so difficult, in Korra it seems main characters are just naturally gifted or new skills just somehow come to them. Remember how hard it was for Aang to learn fire and especially earth. Meanwhile toddler korra is just casually bending all 4 elements in the first 5 minutes of the show. Fow me it makes the bending way less cool. Instead of an artform that takes mastery and concentration, it's like they are just casting magic spells.
She was hardly bending anything impressive in that scene of her as a child. They also live in peace time, so they can afford to learn each element easier than in Aang's time. Two of the main characters play in competitions so you best bet they are good at their element.
Oh yes, it would have been fun to see Bolin or mako going through what Zuko went through when he lost his bending and would have to go to the original masters to relearn
The fact that every fire bender can lightning bend now after all that zuko went through makes me mad
@@irasac1 ikr
I get your point, but who's to say the avatars before Aang had a difficult time learning to bend? Maybe Roku or any other avatar learned bending quick and easy.
aang and katara would have been such good parents. like even if aang ‘favored’ one of his kids over the other (which is unlikely considering his character) katara would have been so pissed. she would have been so mad. like....HUH????
THIS, they made katara this obedient housewife who doesn't speak up to her husband. This is not who she was in atla!!!!
@@LexaNightcore Exactly
Exactly! The Katara from ATLA wouldn't allow that
How would we know that?
We've never seen them eith kids before. But Katara would be the motherly one, I agree.
She DID help in giving birth to babies in her old tribe, and sometimes acted like a nagging mother to Sokka 🤣
*Aang and Katara
You guys can’t really judge toph for becoming a cop now that cops aren’t liked. It’s a really stupid reason.
Fr
Exactly
*I KNOW RIGHT!?!?*
Couldn't have said it better myself
"Fuck the Police" came out in the 90s, people have always hated Cops. Its just more understood now.
I hated the love triangle between Asami, Korra, and Mako. It was like there was no real connection because every time Korra went away Mako went to Asami, and when she came back she was all over Mako again and he just dropped Asami for her. I thought Korra and Mako breaking up was the best decision but what I don’t understand about it, Asami never got mad. She was dating Mako and Korra kissed him and they never truly acknowledged how badly that would hurt or how angry she should have been. There wasn’t even tension between them despite them being involved with the same guy they were best friends and had no problem with it.
who hurt you
I thought it was weird too.
Melissa Corral it is weird imagine learning ur bf kissed his close girl friend while u guys dated and didn’t tell u and u figure out thru someone else she wasn’t mad at all-
I feel like it’s because Korra and Asami liked each other on the low anyways
EXACTLYY
2:05 Aang didn't exactly grow up an orphan. He was raised by the monks, in a culture where you are raised by the collective rather than a single family. This is how the children of the Southern Air Temple were raised. Not technically an orphan and with no reason to be "more screwed up"
Imagine waking up in a frozen ocean just to find out your whole race got wiped out
Thank you
I don't like the relationship side, one episode they were dating and 5 mins later she cheated on him with his bro and next he went out with another girl
They ( Korra and bolin) were hanging out enjoying not dating
@@Mix2Fix nah man they were dating
yeah. I don't like the relationship at the end. It seams like it only happened because of the fans and came out of nowhere
@@Mix2Fix they were dating but it was nothing serious Korra just broke bolins heart
Getting a new girl after your previous gal cheats on you is normie behavior
Let's not forget that toph is a human lie detector, people would be coming to her to solve crime even if she didn't want to be a cop. It just fits.
But u cant trust her. First off all thats to much power in one persons hand and secondly shes not alwasy right (azula)
@@snoxh2187 Azula’s a ahh... special case
@@okay4902 Agreed
@@okay4902 Exactly. She's too overly confident.
True.
Would her ability hold up in court? Not likely.
Even Aang doesn't have control over the law. He could point and say "That guy is bad."
But without proof, should people blindly follow his claims. Even Aang wouldn't agree to that
I feel like Korra needed more time on-screen facing her PTSD
Aang had his entire culture destroyed, and he gets over it with 2-3 lines from katara, people call that amazing. Korra sufferes for 3 years, spanning half a season, the focus of one episode, I don't feel it needed any more focus to be amazing. Some may never like the show, "you gotta deal with it!"
@@phanboichau8498 oh don't get me wrong I loved korra alot more than avatar but having PTSD myself I felt like they could have done a little more.
@@phanboichau8498 Um my guy I'm gonna have to disagree with you on that. He never truly gets over it just from 3 lines from Katara, it helps him but it also haunts him. He felt as if he was alone and he would always be alone despite Katara and Sokka confronting him, he still feels that way. During the 1st season, he visits a lot of places where he used to hangout 100 years ago like when he went to King Bumi's city because King Bumi was apart of his childhood. I think that's all I have to say but forgive me, it 2am and I'm pretty tired.
@@phanboichau8498 nahh it still haunt him. He still feeling alone and feel he didn't have any place to called it home anymore. Just look when katara reunited with his father friend. Aang sure miss his family and he must deal with it.
I think she needed way less on thay
The fact that she lost contact with her past lives was complete horrible
in my opinion, she has some mental block that she doesn't know how to overcome. maybe raava being visually killed just did her so bad she can't contant raava's past lives because her subconcious still think that they are dead. but they are alive, because the avatar state still works
Agreed.
@@ОлексійКупранець only if that was true😭
@@navin8189 why can’t it be? They always said that she lost the connection, I don’t remember them actually outright saying the others Avatars were completely gone.
@@ОлексійКупранець I like this idea. My new headcanon
I still think their biggest issue was not adding Sokka in the show (flashbacks don't count)
I think that even if they had sokka, people would say they're using nostalgia to much.
Supposedly Sokka died while going on a rescue mission with Zuko to save Korra when she was a baby.
@@FaceUnreality he doesn't die then, that is just the last time (chronologically) we hear of him, my head canon is that he go injured and died some years later due to that injury
they never even mentioned him outside of the one flashback
@@Pokemichael Toph did when Korra encountered her in the swamp
I feel like there’s no down time in the legend of korra. There really isn’t a lot of time where they can just relax and have some character development.
Ok that's a far point the show does feel like it's always dealing with some big threat
Exactly what I was thinking! Every time a season ended, we immediately got introduced to the next threat without really experiencing any recovery time. ATLA had a decent amount of episodes you could watch on their own, kind of like side missions/stories. But Korra had non of that, which made it a little too exhausting to me.
I feel like at least half of Korra's problems could be solved if korra had more episodes every season
@@yusufdurmus1557 true
they really tried too hard with The Legend of Korra
When Korra lost her bending I felt she shouldn't of got her bending back till she fought unalaq and vatu . I feel like her mastering air bending without the other elements would be more interesting.
Micah Matheny there wasn't gonna be the next seasons originally
i blame nick
Book One was a supposed to be a standalone Miniseries. They weren't sure whether or not it would get renewed for another season. So having an overarching plotline like that just wasn't going to happen.
Funfact (though quite dark fact) at the end of season one she went to the edge to kill herself to give the world another chance, but Aang intervened and taught her the bending that he used to take Ozai's bending away. That is why she was so sad walking up to the edge. The world needs an avatar, a person who can bend all elements so if she didn't get it back at that time the second season would have been an earth avatar (:
@@celinefye384 proof? Not trying to be a douche but people tend to just say a bunch of stuff without any sources
LOK was all in all a decent if not a great show, ATLA just raised the bar too high. The problems that held LOK down would be the following:
1.) The lost connection to the past avatars - I hated this part soo much.
2.) Underwhelming ending - Kuvira wasn't as fleshed out.
3.) The giant mecha - They really decided that a Gundam robot would work out.
4.) Season 2's story - We didn't need the dark avatar.
But despite that I would tell people to watch it, I just hated the lost avatar connection. The problem with that as well was it was never talked about again. We lost Aang, Kiyoshi, Roku, etc. for nothing.
Beg your pardon but it wasn't "for nothing." Losing her connection to her past lives was part of Korra's arc of learning to value herself as a person and not just the Avatar.
@@Wright805 Yeah hell nah. Korra spoke like 3 words to Aang in the entire show and then her previous lives got eviscerated. Korra barely talked to any of her previous lives for advice and look how that turned out for her(very badly). LOK was a dumpster fire of a show that had so much potential that was wasted.
The biggest plot hole in all of LOK is the fact that why the hell did Korra leave the Spirit portals open. It was already established that the humans were being terrorized by the spirits in the past and even in a canonical sequel comic the spirits didn't like korra's choice either. Now the Avatar's whole "bridge between the Spirit World and the Human World" is pointless and Korra just made everyone's lives a whole lot worse.
Toph:LET'S BREAK SOME RULES
Years later: LET'S MAKE SOME LAWS
Was it just me who could hear the first sentence in tophs voice
@@becca3445 same
Adult Toph: LETS BREAK MY OWN RULES
I think it was more that she loved breaking faces, and being a cop let you break faces legally
@@becca3445 SAME!!!
Toph: LET’S BREAK SOME RULES!
Also Toph: *becomes a cop*
So...like all cops😂
OpTicFanBoy24 fair enough
I was rather viewing it as
Kid toph: society is a bs so let's break rules
Adult toph: society is a bs let's fix that shit
Honestly for me she hasn't changed at all, she was tolerating no bs as a kid, and as a adult still tolerates none
It’s not like she didn’t break rules as cops
I mean she ripped up a report to save her daughter so even as a cop she broke the rules
I mean, in the first season where they saw the weapons and they literally blamed the cabbage guy had me. It actually made perfect sense. Aang would always destroy his cabbages so i literally could see him going against the avatar 😭 that shit had me rolling.
My biggest problem with 'Korrasami' is, that (for me at least) it feels unearned? I already knew beforehand that they will get together, so I especially paid attention to their relationship before the finale, and I never saw their relationship to be more than platonic. They became really good friends, but they never hinted to more than that.
Aang and Katara on the other hand were teased like that from the beginning, hence why the finale of ATLA felt so much more earned.
I mean if your network excessively censors LGBTQ+ relationships it's hard to elaborate. I respect the atleast had vague hints about it. I guess that's all they were able to do 🤷♀️ Vague platonic hints.
You might want to watch seasons 3 and 4 again.
@@kinkinibhattacharya8183 Actually, Nick was very supportive of the pairing. The issue was Standards & Practices at the time.
On the contrary, their were several hints that Korra and Asami were growing closer than "good friends". Consider that in the final episode of Book 3 it is Asami who cares for Korra after she's paralyzed. Asami is the ONLY person Korra can muster the energy to talk to in the closing scenes. Listen to Asami's tone of voice when she says she's there if Korra needs to talk "or anything." See the way she glances down at her hand on Korra's as she says this.
Then in Book 4, Asami was the ONLY person Korra wrote back to. Asami was the ONLY one who offered to go with Korra to the South Pole. During the Wu rescue mission Korra and Asami are in perfect sync, trusting each other completely.
I suspect that if Asami was replaced with a dude you would not be claiming you "never saw their relationship to be more than platonic."
Yeah it felt really poorly tossed together, mostly because the new gang just didn't really feel like friends
Romance was never Avatar's strong suite but it was just REALLY poorly done in LoK
They never should've done that garbage love triangle
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Korra: * goes through depression*
Old Zuko: that’s rough buddy
Mako*
@@albertluo2293Mako's young Zuko's old
Korra: cuts all connection of the past avatars
Zuko: *thats rough buddy*
@@yes-vs6ux make it kid cuz that's what old people call us
Another issue that LoK has is the fact that they did Katara wrong. She doesn't get her own statue, despite the fact that she was not only a water bending master, but she also helped save the world. Basically everyone in the gaang got their own statue except for Katara. Also I wish they added her in more flashbacks, she wasn't in any. I wanted to see her still fighting with the gaang against that one bloodbender in the flashbacks. And if Aang was actually favoring Tenzin over his other kids, which seems so unlike Aang. Then Katara, being the person she is would have said something. They made her out to be this quiet obedient housewife who doesn't speak up for herself or anyone else, which is unlike Katara. And also the way Aang grew up, and the fact that he seemed so loving and caring in the original series, it's so weird that they made him care abt one person over the others. I get that tenzin was an airbender and aang was probably excited, but it seems so unlike him to choose favorites. But what got me the most mad is the way that they killed off all of Korra's past lives, they destroyed the last piece of the original series we had. Don't call the series a spinoff if we have nothing from the original series. It honestly made me furious the way they made her past lives disappear, and just shatter. I don't even think I need to get started on how messed up and toxic the realationships were in this show, they were so random that it seems like they listened to a bunch of fans on some random website, Korra and Asami had an amazing friendship, but they had to turn it into a relationship, also Mako cheated on both girls twice, what-
Also I wish they gave a little more detail on some original characters, like the fact that we barely know anything abt how Sokka lived his adult life, I wish they at least told us how he died. LoK is fine ig, but atla is wayy better.
I love LOK but the relationships are pretty messy indeed. And you said everything me and other Katara stans think about what they did to Katara! I feel like the writers and the creators had no clue how to write relationships, they absolutely ruined Kataang for me by ruining Aang's development in ATLA and then making him an absent father in LOK and also by taking Katara's agency and strenght as a character through the whole relationship. It had SO much potential and I've seen so many amazing headcanons of how it could've gone, but instead the writers turned her into her grandmother! Even in the comics all she seems to care about is Aang. And yeah, I absolutely love Mako, he's probably one of my fav characters in LOK, but bruh wtf was he on with all that cheating and lack of communication?? And it's SO disrespectful that he was named after Iroh's voice actor and they made him out to act like that! Also I love Korrasami, I think the main issue isn't that they turned their friendship into romance (they do that all the time with M/F ships), but that they didn't properly develop their chemistry the same way they developed Mako and Korra's or Mako and Asami's. You could clearly see there was attraction between the M/F couples in the show, but I imagine that, bc it was Nickelodeon, there was only so much they could do. But considering how terrible they write romance I'm unsure of how much better it could've been.
@@reereereena Exactly, if they were going to make a character named after Iroh's voice actor who sadly passed away. Don't make the character an asshole. 😐
@@reereereena I agree, I honestly would have been fine with korrasami if they developed their realationship a bit more, idk it just felt so random.
EXACTLYYYYY BROOOOO like wtf Kartara is NOT the person to just sit back and take bs. SHE'S A LEADER. It's HELLA outta character for Aang to be a dad who abandons his kids but for Kartara to just sit back and take that without intervening HELLL NAHH that's not like them at all. tf i was so mad at that that's just a horrible plot change like come on that was ella unbelievible and just VERY UNCALLED FOR!!! ughhhh
LOK its still good
Sokka: when did you become so responsible
Aang: oh some time between the genocide of my people and having to defeat the fire lord at age 12
😂
Kinda hate how korra kept on saying "I'm the avatar" and the only characters I love was Lin and Bolin lol
Honestly only lin had some character development
Tenzin was a decent character at times. And I liked Varrick and his role. All the others were so boring, especially Korra and her friends
@@2centsbear638 Nah Bolin does his work good and is very enjoyable, korra is crazy and a threat to world peace, Mako is depressing and Asami is useless, poor girl
Well, she's the avatar. You gotta deal with it!
@@nexusshark nooooooooo
The cutting off from the avatars is my main complaint, it is like a big middle finger to the world and story.
It’s stupid as hell
All those past avatar lives got thrown out the window
@@njbrx ... by Unawatu. Sure it sucks, but at least it’s honest in a way that villians do evil stuff that has consequences and cannot always be undone. Even Korra as recovering from trauma has this notion: She deals with it not by turning back time or erasing her mistakes, but to accept them and herself and move on.
@@Alina_Schmidt sure it’s fine to just accept in the next seasons, but the second season should’ve never happened. That villainous act and Korra rising up was not earned. When that happened all we saw was a dumb dumb failing and ruining our childhood in a terrible season that was hard to watch throughout. It would’ve been much better if the rest of the season was good and Korra was competent and failed despite her best efforts, but that’s not what happened. Just because something is “realistic” is flimsy. Imagine if Star Wars ended with the first movie when Luke tripped on his lightsaber. Done bam, end of story. Realistic? Yes. Good? Fuck no.
this is called >consequences< you hope the hero never lossds anything important during the journey...
Another thing about Aang favoring Tenzin: Once he knew he was an airbender, Aang new Tenzin would have a lot of responsibility.
-Preserving the culture
-Learning the airbending techniques
-Teaching the next Avatar
-Continuing the airbender line, and passing on what he knows
Of course Aang would spend more time with Tenzin. He wanted to prepare him for as much as he could, because who could he go to for help with this when he was gone?
I agree but you gotta feel for Bumi & Kya feeling neglected and all
@@kris5885 Yh but I still find it extremely dumb that the firstborn of the avatar n most powerful water bender itw is a non bender. That was extremely retarted n they thought they could make ppl forget by making him this joker type but showed him to be a useless lonely old man
@@Peter_2504 tho he is just a late, very late bloomer
@An Average Sea Dragon oh yeah forgot about that
@An Average Sea Dragon that’s not how it works buddy. Bumi ain’t related to zuko, it’s that roku n aang share the avatar spirit not flesh. N he was a commander which wasn’t near the rank of a general.
I really like how much LoK feeds into the inverse avatar theory(I don’t know what it’s actually called), the theory that every avatar is the opposite of their previous life. Kuruk was useless because Yangchen was amazing. Kyoshi assembled the earth kingdom because Kuruk didn’t accomplish anything. Roku focused on the world because Kyoshi only helped the Earth kingdom. Aang ran from responsibility because Roku didn’t. And Korra built her identity around being the Avatar because Aang didn’t want to be.
Kuruk wasn’t even useless, he literally sacrificed his life to preserve Yangchen’s legacy and hide her greatest failure, keeping peace between humans and spirits.
However, everything else was accurate, I just wanted to clear up that Kuruk wasn’t terrible and Yangchen wasn’t exactly godly either.
@@eshuansauce4082 Yeah, I feel bad for Kuruk. He had a tough time as an Avatar.
yes! i think that the last’s avatar biggest regret becomes the next avatar’s “mission”
Kuruk is by far the best avatar he saved the whole world and didn't want to tell anyone bc he didn't want them to be in danger and a million more things, he is also the most powerful avatar we have seen maybe on par with szeto bc he literally fought father gloworm when he was at full power, kyoshi couldn't defeat the weakest version of father gloworm
@@arlainecarinugan3703 he was left cleaning up Yangchens mess, and got a bad public image. The “worst” compared to Yangchen, whose almost universally seen as the “best”
It wasnt really the flaws that Korra possessed but more how she treated the people around her. From her outbursts to not even paying attention and being closeminded, and some even ended without her getting any 'lesson'. Thats what bothered me the most.
My only problem with LOK is that I feel like every support character and I mean all of them to the adults to the kids stands out more than the core 4 :/
This. I cared WAY more about "Will Tenzin get a real vacation, even with his siblings there?" than I did about "Who is together in the love pyramid this week!?"
True. That love triangle they all had going on was the worse part of it. And the side characters were more interesting then the main characters
Water Bending taught by Moon & Ocean Spirit.
Earth Bending taught by Badger Moles
Fire Bending taught by Dragons
Air Bending taught by Flying Bison
@@Daisy-bi5zb no they didn’t. The animals and the water spirits TAUGHT the people how to use their bending. The lion turtles GAVE the people the ability to bend.
By the moon itself not the moon and ocean spirits
@@biancataru7235 the lionturtles never actually had elements. The one we met literally says "We bent not the elements but the energy within ourselves"
Energybending is not elemental bending.
@@tanandalynch9441 They basically unlock hidden genes within them
@@tanandalynch9441 then how do you explain that a lot of non-benders don’t have the ability to bend? For example, we saw Sokka being near a flying bison, the ocean and the moon spirit and the badgermoles, yet he couldn’t bend any element.
How do we know she’s the worst we know like 8 of the avatars
the last water tribe Avatar, Kuruk, was implied to be so ineffective as Avatar that his inaction is partially to blame for the constant warring and tension that Kyoshi and Roku had to deal with.
Interrobang Not roku just kyoshi. BUT his issues were with the spirits only and not humans because of yangchens errors. Read the kyoshi novels
@@Dan-kg9no But he only dealt with spirits at night so yangchen wouldn't get hated, instead he would, he was the reason why the spirts were mainly peaceful in those times
Yep Kuruk was saving the world that time
bruh, if Kuruk didnt Saved the Spirits, Those Spirits would have Killed Most of the People
Aang was not a bad father, but he wasn't has good as Tenzin thought. He loved his kids, but he also add a lot of presure on his shoulders. In the end, he was human
Aang is a terrible father he favoured one of his. Children favouring one over onther means your a bad father
@@jadenchamoun6785 what? favouriting one child over the others just happens naturally to parents. they don’t mean to and it shouldn’t, but it happens. that doesn’t make them bad parents.
Some times it douse your perfering and loving one child more than egalist Aang is a bad father
@@jadenchamoun6785 I don't think Aang was a bad father. Of course, we don't know what his parenting style was exactly like as we were never really told or shown what original Avater lives were after Avatar: The Last Airbender series.
No parent is perfect. Parents are individuals who make mistakes. Aang did still had his duties of being the avatar but he also had to be a teacher to Tenzin as at some point Tenzin would he responsible for bringing back an entire culture. Also Aang was the last Airbender. His culture was taken away and had to see the skeleton of his old friend and also father figure Monk Gyatso. Which come one. That will trauamtize you. Also, culture is important to people who grew up with it. I am part of culture and I am sure if someone took it away I would be devastated as well.
Obviously he was probably excited to find Tenzin to be an Airbender because hey your culture now has a chance to come back. But he also had to be teacher and responsible to teaching Tenzin the air nation's culture and bring them back. Which would be a difficult task to do all yourself. It really is not surprising that Aang attention went a lot on Tenzin. But it is not like Tenzin had it easy either. While his siblings may have felt they were being left out. Tenzin felt that he had to be like Aang and fill out his legacy and wishes.
I dont think he neglected his children. Besides, in the end all of Aang's children: Kya, Bumi, and Tenzin understood that Aang loved them all equally.
The amount of attention someone gives you does not equal to the amount of love they have for you. Someone can give you all the attention you want but not love you. And this goes for all kinds of relationships. Family, friendship, romantic.
Besides parents can not give the same attention to each of their children. Some of their children may need it more.
For example, imagine this. Two parents have three kids. One kid however has a disorder that would affect they daily lives. Then those parents would focus a lot of their attention on that child. Because that child needs it. That does not mean the parents do not love their other children who are healthy. But that child who has a disorder needs their attention to ensure they grow up in healthy and safe environment.
Let's think of another situation, two parents have two children. One child gets pneumonia. The parents would put a lot of their attention on the kid who is sick than the kid is healthy and is not sick. That does not mean that at that time the parents love ill child more than the healthy child. They were just making sure that ill child recover safely and able to make a recovery. But to do that they needed to focus a lot of their attention on that child.
I don't need my parent's attention all the time. I am the oldest of my siblings. So I know I do not need the constant attention of my parents to ensure that they love me. I am old enough to understand that. My younger siblings would probably need their attention a lot and more than me. Because they are not yet old enough to understand that parents are humans and individuals that have their own needs and make mistakes. They are also not old enough to understand that when a parent is too busy to give their attention that it does not mean they hate them or don't love them anymore.
Now let's use the real world on Aang. Bumi and Kya are older than Tenzin. their age difference between may not be that big. But there is still a difference between each child. When Tenzin came along and find out he is an air bender. You do have to realize not only the excitement of Aang no longer being the last air bender. But also the responsibility of bringing the air nation back to life. Aang would not only be a parent to Tenzin but also a teacher to Tenzin because Tenzin would grow up to revive their air nation and ensure the culture lives on for future generations. But to ensure that Tenzin needed to learn the culture. Its beliefs, values, views, ideas, etc. And to learn all of that. Aang had to teach Tenzin. Aang had to give more attention to teach him the culture. Because if Aang did not give a little more of his time teaching the air culture. Tenzin would really struggle on reviving an entire culture that he may not understand or know a lot of.
So did Aang give more attention to Tenzin? Yes.
Did the amount of attention Tenzin was getting made Kya and Bumi feel left out? Yes, especially because their age difference was not really that big. And when your kid you essentially need the constant attention of a parent.
Did Aang love Tenzin more than Bumi and Kya? No. As I said the amount of attention someone gives you does not equal to the amount of love they have for you. As you grow older you wouldn't need the constant attention of your parent. Because you know even when they are busy or away for one day. They still love you. Which is what Bumi, Kya, and Tenzin understand. Aang put a lot of attention on Tenzin. But Aang still loved all of them.
Parenting is not an easy job. And there is not an exact correct path of how it is suppose to be. Even if a child does grow up in a healthy, safe environment and emotional support from their parent. Parents would still make mistakes. There is not a sign that says "this is the best path of parenting" but you can come close to it.
I got a lot of issues with LOK, especially when the connection to the past lives got severed for good.
That was basically an escuse for them to retcon everything.
Yeah cuz she started the new cycle. She is now the new Wan. To me its no big deal, she didn't communicate to her past lives much except in Book 1. I thought Korra was strong and brave. :)
At that point, I stopped whatching LOK
@@summer5684 Nope. In the extended comics it is revealed that the Avatar can never recall their past lives, not even the one after Korra, so Korra had to write a bunch of letters to explain everything.
@@timtam3730 I know. They cannot recall their past lives but the future avatars can communicate directly to Raava (the past avatars wasnt able to do that) but Korra managed to talked to Raava I forgot which chapter.. So yeah, same with Wan before he died, he was able to talked to Raava directly. And for the record, Bryan and Michael Dante already said one of their interviews and clarification that Korra started a new cycle. No more past lives connection but they can communicate to Raava directly. Just like Wan, there was no past lives cuz he started the cycle. And now its Korra. The next avatar will use their own wisdom. So...
My biggest problem was that compared to ATLA, the characters of LOK were so much less likeable and less developed, in ATLA we got a whole episode centered around Zuko, Mai, Ty Lee and Azula, essentially humanizing the villains and making them very likeable, hell, Azula was my favorite character in the entire show. But in LOK its like we don’t really care about the characters besides Korra herself. Also another thing is, the show is just all action and no down time. We never really had any comedic or funny moments besides random throw ins in the show. Overall i would say LOK is a very good series but ATLA was generally better, the only part i liked about LOK more than ATLA was that i liked Korra more as an avatar and i liked the concepts more
I agree with most of the things you said. However, Our conclusions are differing. I wouldn't call LOK a very good series because if you consider the character development (just as you have done), execution of the plot and the conflicts, nothing seemed to be eligible to be classified as 'very good to me'.
In ATLA you could literally feel the crux and heat of the conflicts and their growth. Even an issue such as Sokka and Moon spirit (I've forgotten her name) was great, less than three episodes or so but boy was it great. We see him still grieving the lost relationship even when with Suki, which is something we barely see in any of LOK nonetheless looking into the main issues they had. LOK had three seasons and I don't think they were able to create anything feasible.
Then you come to the themes, they were good but they seemed forced like they were trying so hard to recreate what they got from ATLA that they started spiralling into ideologies they were not fully aware of, or they had not really though through. I agree LOK tries to be it's own story and I am aware of that but the fact that they still kept on painfully trying to make strong connections with ATLA just made them a candidate for comparison.
And not just that. Something that bothered me throughout the whole series was how easy Korra got everything she had. Like when Aang comes to give her back her bending at the end of season 1 and told her that she being at her lowest connected her to her past selves, felt so much like a big lie and is a great example to teach people of the dangers of telling only and not showing. We never actually see her learn during her lowest points. Her lowest point at that time, I presume, was her loosing her bending and the only thing we see her learn was that if she got hurt, angry or emotional enough she could unlock a new ability. And if she got sad, reclusive and neglected everyone enough she could could have Aang (or someone else ) to her aid. She never learns what it means to be actually spiritual. She also ends up depreciating herself because she's no longer a bender of more than one element and she never learns how to deal with that.
There are lots of things I believe should have been done differently before I could consider LOK a good series but at least the visuals were good and the world building too were nice.
Oh and this is just on the side but Dante Busco, who originally voiced our sweet kid Zuko in ATLA, voicing his grandson in LOK, who is also named Iroh after our sweet wise general from ATLA, felt weird and it didn't fit to me. But oh well, if he wanted to take part in the second show, then why should he be stopped.
@@rhunan3623 Well said.
To be completely honest the issue with korra is there isn't a single character (other than varrick) who I like more than anyone from ATLA, like my second fav character from LOK (bolin) is less likeable than fucking ozai
@@mitsuri7485 That's more personal preference though.
@@mitsuri7485 okay. Personally I liked the idea of Korra, but the execution was very bad and she just became such an annoying character.
The origin of Bending makes me wonder if the Avatar wasn't just the chosen one being reincarnated, but Raava hopping into a new human hosts.
Technically it is reincarnation since Raava and Wan were permanently fused.
Nah it's reincarnation
That would make sense, the avatar could be a 'fusion' of rava, wan & whoever the avatar is
It is just Raava jumping to a new host, she just carries the past memories and personalities with her to the next host. The Avatar is merely the next host of Raava.
There’s a difference?
Personally, there are still 2 more issues with LOK:
1: Korra’s “My way or the highway” attitude. While this can be helpful for getting things done quickly, it has ended up hurting people like Mako, and that was during a time of conflict. Imagine what kind of damage she could inflict with that attitude in times of peace! She could kill innocent people if she’s not careful, which would make for a interesting plot point in a new series; either the new avatar facing off against someone whose loved ones were unjustly killed by Korra, or someone in the same situation as above trying to learn to let go of their anger while helping out the new avatar! The worst part though, it never feels fully dealt with. Nothing wrong with some confidence, but Korra still feels like she would keep forcing people to go through with her ideas above all else!
2: I don’t mind how little we saw the previous team in LOK, but I do mind how we only found out recently how and why Aang died and to this day all we know about adult Sokka is he was a senator in one of the earlier councils! We all still want to know about Sokka, and maybe some love for the Cabbage man as well (how he went from merchant to tycoon)! I know it’s not their story anymore, but they could at least give a “oh hey, this is what happened to this person,” in some way/shape/form!
Then you need to know about Yancheng, she was head strong and worst than korra if we are calling korra worst!!! Korra redemption arc was after she got poisoned she learned she need to be broken to be the avatar!
@@UR.CristainoR Shes like the second strongest but basically ruined the reputation of her successor Kuruk everyone thinks hes lazy but in truth he was just trying to fix the mess Yangchen created in the spirit world she was careless and favoured humans too much yet Kuruk got hit with the blame a King John situation really.
There’s a difference between “Taught” and “given”
In the start of Korra we see she can already bend Fire, Earth and Water but still needs to be trained and taught how to use them
When in Korra we seen Wan with fire bending we get a scene where a Dragon teaches him how to use it like it’s part of his body
In ATLA we see on multiple occasions of them having bending but not mastering it. It even says that it’s better to train with a master before. It hasn’t changed the lore at all
There is a bit, as its stated that the masters the first human benders learned from were the first benders period and its implied that by learning from the first benders (dragons, bison, the moon/I think fish, and the badger moles) humans were able to gain the ability to bend. Its stated over and over again in The Last Airbender, so having the bending come from the lion turtle is a change in lore because instead of learning to bend from the masters, which is how it originally was, they're just learning the proper way to handle themselves as benders if that makes any sense
Ryss Alsief there is a difference between “Taught” and “Given”
Even in Wan’s section of Korra we see him learning firebending from a dragon but the dragon didn’t give him the bending. The dragon should him how to use it as a part of his body, not as a weapon. Even Aang and Zuko were taught *real* firebending from dragon, but they could firebend before that, they still needed to be taught true firebending but they could firebend before that
@@EnderKL but he doesn't learn it, yes he learns how to master it, but he doesn't learn how to get it.
Yes he had to learn the essentials, but even if he hadn't he still had fire bending, he was given fire bending. As stated above in ATLA we are told on a number of occassions "The original X masters were X thing and they thought humans by moving through earth" Not "When humans got bending from an unknown source they learned to control it from X things that lived on earth".
And besides contradicting it also takes from the plot. Imagine how powerful it could have been if in season 3 Zaheer didn't learn to fly even partially from his given airbending, but rather he gained airbending by learning it like the original benders (clearly not from bisons, but from their techniques and philosophy), and eventually became so in touch with what it means to be an airbender that he can fly. He wasn't facilitated anything, he learnt it all on his own just like air nomads did in the beggining (this could have also helped with the restoring the air nation plot, you don't need to be given airbending by some convoluted unbalance, but from extreme spiritual connection, it gives wider range for the air nation to continue to exist). It also gives a better message: You don't need to be born with or be given certain things to do something great and succeed, you can achieve them on your own through hard work and putting your mind to it.
Yes they had to learn, but there is a great gap between working to get something and simply learning to master it fully.
Reading the arguments from the atla lore, it honestly sounds like ridiculous nitpicking. It sounds like atla left it open ended and korra filled a piece that no one really thought about. Everyone just assumed that humans gained the ability and were taught by the creatures. Which tbh, if that was the case, then any non-bender could still seek out those creatures and learn bending from them, but you don't see that ever happen.
@@ryssalsief2941 and what about a lion turtle who gave aang the power of energy bend? Yes leyend of korra really break the lore
I think Toph grew up and realized that authority does not always have to be strict. She wanted to keep people safe, so she figured she could keep them safe and allow people to live their lives
You've got tp break the rules to make them...or something.
The lion turtles GAVE humans bending, the “original benders” are the ones who TAUGHT them bending, there’s line between learning and receiving the ability to bend. If Wan didn’t learn to fire bend from the Dragon he likely still would’ve just been shooting fire at out his hands or feet aimlessly.
Still better than Zuko searching for his inner fire and doing this unnecessary maneuvers. Like just punch the air dude it worked for Wan on his first try and the dude wasn't even trying.
Maybe
THANK YOU! People really misunderstood the message in this origin story and spewed hate at the creators for changing the origin of bending. Except they did not change it, they just explained how benders got their powers without changing the original story. LOK literally shows that the reason Wan was able to easily fight off the other firebenders guards was because he was taught by a Dragon. The Lion turtles gave the power but they did not teach the bending.
@@thomasmalet2142 Same! It also gives some explanation to Aang learning Energy Bending from the lion turtles. They already could give certain bending to humans, that one chose to give energy bending to Aang, and how he took Ozai’s bending away.
well, the first benders was there to teach them how to use bending. so they wont just destroy a village. for a coin.
My biggest complaint with Korra was that she used the avatar state so much that it felt like she was abusing it. She’s use for many tiny insignificant things that she shouldn’t have used it for, like winning a race, that it just became useless and not a magnificent and powerful as it was originally. It just seemed as if she was using it for show rather than a the last straw when fighting her powerful enemy, like that of some of the previous avatars used it as (minus a few avatars), which to me feels unrealistic that she wouldn’t know to not use the avatar state as a party trick as Katara and the order of the white lotus were guiding her. Especially Katara, as it hurt her to see Aang in the avatar state and she knows how physically and mentally draining it is and all the steps that it takes to fully unlock it. Also the fact the the developers had in the beta version of A:TLA had rewrote it so that instead of Aang over using the state, recovering fast from it and overall acting cocky with it to it being a draining thing and even having an episode that was dedicated to having someone try to push Aang into using it so that they could end the war fast and he, Katara, and Sokka realizing it wasn’t a good idea and instead focusing on continuing the plot of Aang mastering the four elements even after Aang mastered them all he still treated the state as a last resort kinda thing.
No she barely went into the avatar state at all. She never really learnt how to harness it. Aang was shown to struggle with controlling his avatar state, because his emotions were really strong. Korra barely went into the avatar state unless she was losing. Like her friends would be dying and she wouldn’t go into the avatar state (meaning she didn’t feel any strong emotion) so did she actually care about her friends?
I just hate how they literally separated her from her past lives in one episode then never really talk about it again. If they ever do another series, hopefully they go into that more.
They do get into it again, Tenzin & Korra literally have a little heart to heart at the start of season 3. Besides, not everything has to be spoon fed, part of Korra’s arc is having to recover from the events of season 3 on her own because she can’t talk to any of the other Avatars.
What’s their to get into?😂 there’s no more avatars before Korra. Agreed tho, one episode they show the first avatar then he no longer exists....not to mention Aang who we grew up with
Remember its fiction, they can always put a "plot device" card and have her get past lives back
This video should be called “Defending Legend of Korra” instead of “The legend of Korra’s BIGGEST Issues...”
Yeah, I think a lot of people hit the dislike and like button without watching the video!
@@DJ-rd4pj Well, after reading this comment I'm not really interested in watching the video. I've argued about how much Korra SUCKED more than enough.
@@thenerdiestbear5403 so you just won't give this video a chance? yikes 😬
teehee
@@thenerdiestbear5403 Not sure why'd you want to take away from people's enjoyment just because you don't enjoy something. I'm not saying you can't dislike it, but there's no need to be toxic about it.
Only 2 things wrong about lok lack of cabbages and zuko not meeting iroh in the spirit world
oogi might happen if they make
Avatar the old airbender (when aang and friends were adults)
Also atleast the cabbage mans son took over cabbage corp
i think they showed Zuko seeing Iroh in the spirit world.
@@damia.5974 when
@@kyleenguyen9590 at the end of last episode. they hugged.
@@kyleenguyen9590 I saw Zuko going in to see Iroh but idk if my mind mixed it up with a fan art that could’ve been made. It was after Korra told Zuko she saw Iroh and that his tea was horrible still
For me all the things mentioned in this video definitely caught me off guard when I started watching the show, however none of them were the major turn off for me. For me the biggest thing was, I never felt like the new “gang” had any really connection. It didn’t feel like in ATLA where they became like family almost. That was what I missed. It just felt like a bunch of high schoolers messing around and sometimes being friends
Definitely all the stuff he said was just bs like I loved learning the origin story of the avatar not imagining it like what but the feel of this team was definitely not family feeling
To be fair the new gang is a lot more grown up, hence they have their own things to do separately and not much time to travel all around the world together
@@sermonn73 Yes but why they retcon bending with the turtles avatars with the magic carpets and spirits with them too before they felt sentient they own will but now they are evil because the dirty rug made them not their own natures or being wronged I feel like the first bender story could've been cooler but why did they have to retcon/ruin bunch of stuff to do so. I like the avatar being a conduit of a Human and a spirit but I hate the way they did it they ended making this whole good vs evil thing instead Yin and Yang feels like they abandoned eastern culture and chose this more Western style cultural outlook they ruined spirits and made them boring he could;ve been a soldier on the verge of death who made a pact with a spirit who chose to help him because he benefitted from a human host the spirits started become cartoon teddy bears at the end.
@@youcanwriterhymes The new gang had a horrible relationship problem. Like there is a very awkward relationship consistency and almost no time to develop any of the relationships that do exist.
@@youcanwriterhymes The Aang's story also has parts where every Avatar does their stuff, Zuko is not going to hop with Aang around after becoming the Prince. But the story of AtlA isn't set in that moment in time, it's the moment in time where 5 very different people become siblings for life and learn how to live by living together. Odyssey isn't the story set in a boat with decently competent sailors with some minimal amount of luck that return home after 3 weeks like trained militarymen. It's set in the boat that lived through extremely unusual circumstances
Why the heck should you be getting up and arms about Toph being a cop just because of the recent events?! The Avatar world doesn’t face the same problems our world faces. Just because Toph being a cop doesn’t mean she is automatically all the things we dislike about cops in reality!
Ikr! THIS IS A CARTOON!!! God damn, people gotta stop comparing cartoons that didn’t even take place/ air during these current events. LOK aired from 2012-2014 not fucking 2020! Honestly i hate that they judged Toph’s becoming a cop bc of events taking place 6 years AFTER the show ended
Plus not all cops are bad
@@TarboGreatApe true
Too true. Too true. It's probably just people trying to force their own problems into other people's faces. Pathetic really. Shows and entertainment as a whole are supposed to be a form of escapism. Do you really need to bring in real-world issues into the conversation? No. Shut up and enjoy the dang show. It's like saying Batman should be arrested for vigilantism.
@@haztac5973 RIGHT!? This entire Roundtable video is just so bad. They even have the audacity to call Korra the worst Avatar. What poor video content quality.
I don’t think there’s any need to really even mention toph being a cop in comparison to the issues some have with police today. Show was written in a completely different time and it’s literally a different world in the show
It's brought up a lot in articles and critques of the show nowadays.
yea makes no sense at all xD
To be fair I always found toph being a cop a bad thing cause it didn't seem to fit her character. Like, she's someone who thrives in chaos rather than organised institution
@@gothiclolitavideos9818 I think it was in character, and becuase she was young and stupid like all humans at that age: reckless.
She probably matured and thought "I wanna do good shit for the rest of my life" and became a cop
@@gothiclolitavideos9818 nah she was just 12
Here is the difference between Aang and Korra. Aang never wanted to be the Avatar, and he already has his own identity of who he is has a person outside of being the Avatar. He comes to accept the fact that he is the Avatar, and that he must face the Fire Lord to save the world. His character arc is about him over coming struggles to become a fully realized Avatar, and how being the Avatar challenges his own morals and personal believes. Korra on the other hand, is the complete opposite. She already knew that she was that Avatar from a very young age, and she embraced her role as the Avatar as her only place in the world. Korra was eager to be the best Avatar she could be and live up to Aang's Legacy. Unfortunately for her, TLOK is about deconstructing that Legacy. The villains of each season of the show all have their own ideologies that take a piece of Korra away from her, and fundamentally challenge what it means to be the Avatar, and makes you question whether the world really needs it or not. The first fundamental aspect of being the Avatar is the ability to bend all four elements. In the first episode of TLOK, we see Korra bending 3 of the 4 element when she was a toddler. Korra is absolute bending prodigy, and bending is the main aspect of being the Avatar that she embraces the most. After all, mastering all four element is what allowed Aang to defeat the fire lord and save the world, right? So, who is the villain of the first Season? Someone who leads an anti-bending revolution, and says that the world would be better of without it. Then, after losing her bending, she tries to embrace her spiritual side. Another fundamental aspect of being the Avatar is that they are the bridge between the human and spirit worlds. So, the villain of the second season is some who believes that there shouldn't be a bridge, and that humans and spirits should live together. The next fundamental aspect of being the Avatar, is that they are usually put in a position of high statues and athuority. We see Korra take part in political affairs in Republic City. So, the villain of season three is an anarchist who believes that no single person should have that much power and authority over others, and so he tries to end the Avatar cycle. And Finally, the most important thing about being the Avatar, is that they are tasked with the responsibility of bringing balance to the world. In season four, which is literally called balance, Korra runs away from her responsibility of being the Avatar for three years. She thinks that the world needs her, but as Toph says, the world doesn't really need her. The more problems she solves, the more new problems emerge. The world always seems to need fixing, but book four asked the question, why should it be the Avatar's job to fix it? While Korra is gone, Kurvira does a successful job of bringing balance to the Earth Kingdom, and making it a better place to live. Book four shows us that the world shouldn't rely on the Avatar to fix everyones problems. Everyone should do their part in bringing peace and balance to the world. Korra's character arc isn't about her becoming a better Avatar. She is already pretty much a fully realized Avatar from the beginning, having mastered all four element's and having full control over the Avatar State by the end of the first Season. It's about her defining her place in the world, and figuring out who she is as a person outside of being the Avatar.
this comment is perfect
I agree with this^^^
This is like a 95% comment. The 5% was for Aang mastering the elements to beat ozai and some other minor shit
Baby girl 😍😍😍. You just made me fall more in love with the series.
It's why I like Korra. I didn't want a repeat of the same basic crap. New person, new world, new things, so a new show.
I always thought they should have done a series that revolved around the Gaang in their adult years dealing with post-war problems along with marriage and having kids before moving on to the next Avatar.
Seriously, they can’t create amazing and memorable characters like in ATLA and then expect fans to be invested in a series about the next Avatar while making statements that kind-hearted Aang was a bad father and Toph who hated authority decided to become Chief of Police! Also Sokka who was a majorly popular character getting no backstory expect the hint he might be Suyin’s father which just leads to more questions on what happened during the Gaang’s adult life!
My biggest problem with LOK is the avatar connection being destroyed
That was temporarily lol
@@frisk8632 No, all the past avatars are dead for good, because Korra stood there and let a thing slither in her mouth and pull out the stupid "true avatar spirit" and slap it really hard.
I think she or the avatar after her can gain it back kind of like how Aang did. After all, the next avatar makes up for the previous avatar's regrets and mistakes.
Feel bad for the next avatar
Can't ahe just look in there memories in the time tree
ATLA is about Aang’s journey to becoming more self-confident and headstrong, LoK is about Korra becoming more carefree and loving. Their journeys are opposite. The show’s creators even said something along the lines: “I find it sad that people are less willing to forgive Korra for her mistakes when they immediately jump to defend Aang”.
idk, i feel like the show had a more mature approach, seeing that korra was older(is she? im dumb-), it just didnt remind people of ATLA. Also i think the fact that it was the opposite journey made people mad. I feel like maybe people thought that nickelodeon made korra too headstrong and proudy, and that tipped people off. i think aang was more lovable to them, and people like lovable characters. dont get me wrong, headstrong characters are amazing as well- when done right. i guess everybody thought that she was too headstrong, so yeah. i love LOK and ATLA, but I guess people think otherwise.
I think part of her problem is she doesn't just come off as stubborn, but also vindictive and manipulative in places. The relationship stuff was definitely a souring point for her likability.
@@sindrigosa8360 Everybody was honestly headstrong next to Aang, hell Azula gets less hate than Korra when Korra was legit 1 bad day from being her yet an Avatar. It's just something about Korra that some people even I included don't really like. Especially in the shipping that shit was toxic
@@ExeErdna Idk if u remember this but I had to drop the show once I realised korra knew all the other elements but didnt know airbending like what type of uno reverse card shit is this to me it felt like a total dis to ATLA I had to drop then but when she severed her past lives jus made me want to end it all
its so weird seeing people hate korra for being to headstrong, I loved it. don't get me wrong ALTA has my heart but I often find myself hating aang because I feel like he didn't act on his emotions enough, like when he wouldn't fire bend because he hurt katara. I find myself rewatching legends of korra more than I watch avatar the last airbender. Korra was in my opinion the better avatar, however I did find myself hating the side characters like bolin and mako because I feel like their writing couldn't measure up to sokka or zukos character development. I also wish they never exposed how the avatar line was created, but I also loved the antagonist angle of korras uncle.
I’m not too sure why creating a militaristic style police force would be such a bad thing for Toph. Avatar Kyoshi basically did the same thing ... *twice*
One became village protectors rooted on morals and the other is a secret agency that held no accountability to the public.
Oh I guess I see you’re guys’ point. That’s probably why Toph left before it got really bad.
I'd like to bring up two points about Toph that I think go pretty unnoticed when discussing her being a chief:
A) She didn't join the gaang to help them end the war. She even says "It's not my problem" to Katara, when told [by her] that Aang needed to master Earthbending to defeat the Firelord. She [initially] joined both because she thought it sounded fun (cue to "I am not Toph, I am MELON LORD [*insert evil, chaotic laughter XD*]" ) and to be away from her controlling parents - which brings me to my next point:
B) Toph despised rules and responsibilities. By the end of Book 3, she STILL hates both of these things, only she's learned that accepting help from people who care about her is not a sign of weakness (which, imho, relates more to her relationship with her disability, rather than her views on rules). It might not be seen as that important, but here's the thing: the army thrives on and cultivates a very strict you-have-to-obey-your-superiors-without-questioning-them sort of environment and it is common knowledge just about how abundant rules are in the army, not to mention how you have to wear the same uniform (as people of your rank) and are expected to fit in, rather than stand out (in terms of behavior, character and looks, not performance). Even though I can accept Toph going through many character changes, this one hits too close to her core - in my personal opinion - to be a choice that Toph would ever make. Her not being a perfect mom or opening an Earthbending/metalbending academy or even retiring to live in the swamp all seem perfectly fine to me, but not her being a chief police. The writers tried to make it more believable by having her create a special unit of metalbenders (which she totally would, btw), but that's not the problem here. ATLA specifically uses Toph not caring all that much about the war (which makes sense, she was not affected by it nearly as much as any other gaang member) to contrast her with the other members of the group (Aang, Katara, Zuko and Sokka - Hell, even Suki seems more concerned and affected by the war than Toph). She may have decided that she wanted to dedicate herself to a bigger cause later on in life, but her ideals always seemed closer to self-reliability, freedom and identity/self-expression to me than justice and order and even then, there are many many ways she could've dedicated herself to her cause without being so restricted as a result of being part of the police force. So yeah, these are just my two cents on the topic. You might think differently and that's alright. After all, we're not these characters anyway, but nevertheless, I think Toph being a cop was an odd choice on the writers' part.
I agree. I think everyone is more focused on freedom and self expression when they are young, but you also make a good point about her seeing the state of the world and that might have influenced her decision to later dedicate herself to a cause. Again, she's 30 something. She would've had plenty of time to express herself, and as is the case with most adults, that gets old eventually. It's a sign of maturity and that they gained a broader understanding of fulfillment.
Idk why this guy is getting his panties in a wad about her priorities changing.
They didn't give bending new origin.
Lion turtles gave them ability to bend, but animals taught them how to bend properly.
Idk how something so simple goes over everyone's heads even when we see Wan training with a dragon
@@coolgoku810 the fun part is. that it is the same move that aang and zuko did in the sun warrior episode.
That is a new origin, bending was supposed to be learned and earned from the animals and spirits in the environment-not just learned _correctly_ . Bending the elements in any capacity, however, before The Age of The Avatar was not supposed to be. This was supposed to be the era when people bend the energy within their bodies.
This is a new Origin, my dude, the magic system was revamped.
@@bigmoe9856 i think bend the energy in their bodies just meant stamina people really do overthink that. bending was learned and earned by animals just because u gave someone a tool doesnt mean they still dont have to be taught.
@@coolgoku810 And I think the energy in the bodies meant doing the exact thing that happened in the finale of ATLA where Aang clashed his spirit with Ozai. Yk, that actual example of what energy is supposed to be.
Bending, in LOK, was given by Lion Turtles. It was not earned, it was literally given-hell, Wan *accidently* created a huge flame at the first try. In ATLA, bending of similar proportion was something you'd have to practice for a few months-you'd at least have to have an idea of it like Aang did when he burned Katara. Shoe horning in Wan mimicking a dragon does not suddenly excuse that the creators rewrote *how* people learned the elements-that was them playing games with continuity and technicalities and it's lazy. And again, this was during the era where bending the elements did not happen-period. That comes *AFTER* the Avatar, and it looks like people had been doing this well before Wan stumbled across a butchered ying yang symbol.
“TopHs BAD cuS ShES A CoP” suits her better than anything bruh
Acab except for toph😌😏
@Katie Kaffenberger mhm😌
True, toph is literally the kind of person who will think you're an idiot and will knock some sense into you, whether thats with an old fashion beating with a giant rock or some prison time it suits her well
Saying acab is literally the biggest demonstration of smooth brain group think
@@RougeyKenobi huh?
Can’t really blame aang for being a “poor father” yeah he didn’t show much attention to his other two kids but he had no other choice but to take tenzin under his wing, he was the hope for the next generation of airbenders and aang knew that he had to teach tenzin everything he knew so that when he was gone, tenzin could take over and teach his kids everything aang taught him. However aang did show love and affection to his other two kids but no where near how much he showed tenzin, and we can see how much that bothers bumi and there sister ( don’t know her name lmao)
That's very true. I've always thought that too.
Bumi and Tenzen's sister is named Kya, after Katara's mother.
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That isn’t an excuse. Accurate reason but still you could still teach them about airbending. There were air acolytes who couldn’t bend who also lived in the temples. If aang had included all of his kids in these matters then the airbenders getting their bending back would have probably been a lot easier. Bumi literally left because he felt not worthy enough and that regardless of your reason makes him not only a poor father but a bad father.
CaptianUnicorn I think that bending is kind of like a thing that only some people get and it’s specific about what kind of bending it is that you get. In the beginning of TLOK katara said that she sensed a baby being an airbender
@@doggie23100 he did teach them about their history. Kya at some point even jokes about learning the story of the air nomad that never ate. There is only so much you can teach 2 kids that can't airbend. Tenzin on the other hand could understand it all on a deeper level.
I mean I just wished Korra at least EARNED being the avatar.. There was no journey, she didn't find her bending masters, they were assigned to her and she was sheltered. Bending was never an art form to her, it made it seem lie just a cool way to fight...
That's actually the dumbest critique of korra I've ever heard like, that's the entire point of her story is that her being good at the bending doesnt make her the avatar and she consistently struggles to be a competent avatar and live up to aangs legacy.
@@daltontindle545 She wasn't even really as good as she should have been at bending tbh
@@greenman394 she had alot of inconsistencies but I feel we can chuck that up to the amount of times her bending was blocked taken or impeded it's made her really hard to gauge in terms of ability
@@daltontindle545 she could bend 3 elements as a baby. They literally find out she's the avatar and she's already bending 3 of the elements already. Horrible writing
@@daltontindle545 She literally was bending 3 elements at the age of 6. aang only mastered airbending at 11. she's a total mary sue
My biggest issue with TLOK is
WHERE IS KATARA'S STATUE?????? DONT DISRESPECT MY GIRL LIKE THIS
Katara isn't even dead yet Lol
Now THIS I agree with!!!
@@frisk8632 neither is Toph but she has 3
@@frisk8632 zuko and toph are alive and still they have statues 🤔🤔🤔
@@lailaauto33 well one was a fire lord, the other was the chef of police and the inventor of metal bending 😄 even sokka might have a statue as a councilman but katara was just a housewife 😂
Title: “Korra’s biggest issues!”
Video: talks about of the least talked about and criticized problems of the show
THANK YOU I'm tired of people ignoring the bigger issues of this show to focus on the Cinemasins issues
@@imreallyblack4764 ikr everyone points out every one of TLoK’s flaws but nothing about ATLA, no show is perfect but people always point out only TLoK’s flaws when they compare it to ATLA
Omg thank you y’all understand what I be saying. Everyone so quick to judge her like she didn’t bring back a whole ass nation and save the world from dark times with people like the equalist
@@samiyahwilliams4719 yeah but everyone was helping with the equalists. But not only is korra not a good avatar, unlike aang she's kind of a shitty person.
THANK YOU!!! These are all the minor issues. Korra was horrible!
In ATLA every single episode was special. You could jump to a random episode and it would be special on its own. The Legend of Korra isn't like that at all (in my opinion) for me its more like you gotta watch because you don't want to lose the lines..
um that’s pretty much every show. the point of a show is to watch it in order. y’all just nitpicking now.
@@lifeline.6144 yesss 😈
@@favourfavier1735 ok
And if you watch the show as a whole LoK is probably more enjoyable since it has less "filler like" episodes and has more important events in less episodes. It's just different types of shows
You like LoK because it functions like a normal show? 😭
I imagine Aang felt a lot of pressure to ensure Tenzin knew everything about the Air Nomad culture. Maybe his other children didn’t think it as important and didn’t show as much interest and in turn not always being included in Aang’s teaching events. Tenzin was the youngest so maybe the Bumi and Kya were older and had their own lives at that point. (I’m thinking moody teenagers or young adults). Knowing how Aang was written as a very conscientious character, I could see it going down like that.
Actually, Bumi and Kya stated that they wanted to know about their Air Nomad heritage. It was Aang who denied it to them.
My theory too 🤷♀️ Plus, might be a reach, but I feel like the vacations were also part of teaching him their past. Like the koi fish thing sort of how young air nomads grew up.
Exactly. I thought it was more about preserving the air nomad culture than actual favoritism. I know not everyone cares about those sorts of things, but it's important in Avatar and to Aang.
“Korra has never gotten off Scott free”
Lost Fire, Earth, and Water bending, gets it back by being sad
No, she got it back because of Aang and his guidance
@@Yusufal-stalin
So, are you gonna elaborate?
@@Yusufal-stalin after talking to Aang. I would have loved to see her learn them. It would be different because she already knew them. It would still be able to do something different with her past knowledge. Or at least something to give them back with difficulty
@@Starkill3r306 she met aang during her lowest point. aang said this and I quote "when we are at our lowest point we are open to the greatest change"
@@naessintern7179 They keyword there is "open" to the greatest change. The whole point of that phrase is that that change is something you must make for yourself. The quote would have made sense if from that point she build herself back up relearned her bending and made herself a more realized avatar. But instead she just gets everything back instantly
“I think Korra was a pretty great avatar!” *then what’s with the thumbnail?*
A Dark God. Ikr
A Dark God. I didn’t even notice it said Korea thanks for telling me 😅
I think they're just covering the biggest issues people have had with it, not their own issues.
angrodguz the third ah ok
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Don't go acting like Toph being a cop is shit. Toph wanted to help Aang in what ever way she could built republic city. She gets to kick ass daily and get paid for it. I don't know man sounds like something she would enjoy
Exactly
XD but yeah you're right
But toph hated authority and loved freedom to do as she pleases, so it's weird that she would become an enforcer of law which is the exact type of person she disliked.
And I really don't appreciate bringing their race into it just to say they don't like cops. Especially since I have family and friends who are cops and am friendly with quite a few of different races.
@@samhouston9162 I have cops in my family too but that isn’t an excuse not to understand other peoples perspectives. Just because the cops in our lives are good people and use their power justly doesn’t mean there aren’t other groups of people who have experienced the worse of policing and are understandably suspicious of them.
18:58 this is dumb considering that learning the elements is learning to be the avatar. Venturing out and finding there own master to teach them bending and how to be a better person and avatar is what makes the avatar the avatar. Every avatar does this except korra. She was taught by teachers since the beginning and never had that adventure to find her own teachers/team avatar, which was a disappointment.
This is a lie
You only know 2 or 3avatars 😂😂
In kyoshi’s time a mansion was built where masters would come to train the avatar.
It’s different for every avatar, don’t just say every avatar is meant to journey the world just because of Aang’s story.
It would also just be repetitive if she once again had to go around the world to find masters (which is what the writers were trying to avoid)
It would also be completely unrealistic for her to look for masters when there are so many around her 😂😂
Past avatars: “I don’t feel so good”
OOOOOooooooofffffff! Lol
CRYING
"I don't wanna go"
"A dark Avatar" is something that should have only been said in a fan fiction not the main series
Why? It’s a interesting concept, and makes since in a show all about balance, that if there is someone dedicated to maintaining that balance there will be someone trying to ruin it. And it was a well done inclusion by introducing Ravaa and Vataau, and what there roles are in creating Avatars
90% of LOK’s problems were made in season 2
I heard somewhere there were going to do a dark avatar in season 4 of atlas where aang was battling his evil side or sum like that when he took ozai bending away
If there's an embodiment of peace and light why is there's no embodiment of darkness and chaos ?
@@nevermore7285 To keep balance is to keep a certain amount of evil with an equal amount of good. Yin and Yang. That's the entire premise of the show. The Avatar isn't supposed to solve every problem like a Superhero. They're meant to deal with the threats that throw the Physical World and or the Spirit World out of balance. It's like a scale, you shouldn't have one more than the other. Also Evil is subjective, for example: killing the Fire Lord. Everyone said to kill him but Aang just couldn't do it, Aang thought ending a life was evil, while others said it was a necessary evil. So become Evil to end Evil? That's what they wanted him to do. Sokka was a hunter and would kill to eat meat, is that Evil? Its okay to have morals and values, every Avatar has them, every person has them. But all problems balance themselves naturally eventually, and Chaos will always naturally ensue as well. The Avatar, Ravaa and Vataau aren't necessary, and if you feel that they are, why? I get they embody good and evil but its all subjective. Who decides whats good? Ravaa? Yet in Ravaa there is evil too, just like how in Vataau there is good. Yin and Yang. Its too complicated in actuality, but simplified in the show based on the creators obvious bias, so it shouldn't even exist in Avatars lore as it was presented. People think Good and Evil is black and white but its not that simple and will never be.
I heard it explained as the lion turtles gave the humans bending, but the animals/moon taught the humans to use the bending
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So then what are Tui and La. When general Zhao killed Tui water benders couldn't bend so they must be the source of bending. I think there are spirits for every element that make bending possible, but the lion turtles could also give it to someone even if they weren't born with the power. And like you said the animals and moon made it a martial art and gave inspiration for the way of bending.
@@Aang_tha_best_Avatar Tui is the moon. The water benders learned from the moon who became a fish then joined conscience with a lady
Yeah this is how I read that, too.
It's also entirely possible that the animal stories were always intended to be just legends society came up with to explain bending and Beginnings was the actual facts that were lost to history.
@@Aang_tha_best_Avatar they were the moon and ocean spirits who also had animal forms
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Sorry but no. The stories about Oma and Shu in a story like that is lore. You can’t just explain it away by saying it was an in story legend. That’s not how animation story telling works.
They REALLY messed up the spiritual part of the show in LOK
- Raava, apart from being the angriest peace spirit possible, does not fit asian philosophy at all. When ATLA always respected the concepts of balance, of Yin and Yang that are so fundamental to Asian philosophy, LOK is back to good old CHRISTIAN MORALS : GOOD VS EVIL. GOOD must win. Great. That has never been seen before...
- All the spirits in ALTA were very morally neutral. There were like natural forces, neither good or bad, just to be accounted for. Koh was willing to answer questions for a chance to add a new face to his collection. Hei-bai was attacking innocent people because he was angered at the fire nation destroying his forest. Wan-shi-tong was a peaceful spirit but would not tolerate his knowledge being used for war, even if it is to end one, etc.
In LOK we have either nice fluffy flying bunnies or corrupted purple spirits. All spirits are intrinsecly good and humans are the ones corrupting them.
LOK is manichean and lost a lot of the respect ALTA gave to asian culture.
I never noticed, with the Spirits from the Wan Story being just as fleshed out as the spirits from The Last Airbender. The Dark Spirits were based on angry Hei-bai in terms of design. Even Rava & Vatu had this Good & Evil can't exist without the other which is part of Asian Philosophy. I probably need to rewatch Legend of Korra at some point.
1874: Wow, look at that horse carriage with a little motor in it move on its own
1944: *nuclear explosions eradicating and irradiating entire populations*
Literally 70 years
What about mecha suits :/
@@immortalpickle3104 exaxtlyyyy
Its also kimda weird that aang woke up and not much had changed after 100 years, but korras time skipped super far in 70.
@@menkirdennis6686 Not really. China in 1770 was not all that different from China in 1870. But China in 1940 was a completely different place. As for the mecha suits...well OK, that's Rule of Cool. On the other hand, Korra's world never developed guns, tanks, and artillery to the extent that our world did, and their aircraft technology developed more slowly. It's not hugely implausible, in a world where there's magic and visible spirits as everyday reality.
@@immortalpickle3104 in 1940s technology yes they were more than possible but would be sluggish and have to be connected 24/7 to a power source via cable.
More than possible yes but not very efficient or reliable compared to a tank.
And besides they had bending in the avatar universe which could be used to speed up industrial processes.
Tenzin for a time being, was the other last airbender. His children wasn't even born yet and Korra wasn't even an airbender yet until she was around 17 or 18
If we wanna get technical in the original show Aang wasn't even the last Airbender. Appa was an Airbender too. Aang was the last Air Nomad, but not last Airbender. They learned bending from the flying bison.
Melody Garrison 😐
@@melodygarrison8071 So then Tenzin wasn't ever the last one either. By the time Aang and Appa died, Oogi or one of the sky bison kin would have been born.
Fun fact appa wasn’t the last flying bison it was in the comics that he wasn’t the last one that y it so many flying bison in lok
Lee Fransaw well his species of sky bison, he was the last. The one we saw in LOK was sorta like a different variation if I can say that. They visibly have a red tint too them opposed to Appa
Are people seriously attaching RL american cop issues to a fictional cartoon character?
Yea and it's pathetic.
Lol people really like to generalize everything.
It's sad
i also like how OP said just because he's part black means he's not pro cop. Bruh, there are plenty of black cops out there.
@@clarischoi Agreed. Even in real life, it's not good to say "aLL cOPS aRE bAd".