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Believe it or not when I was watching a reaction on it I said "Well why don't we cross-examine the parrot" as a joke but then they actually did I was like "What th- I was kidding"
Objection: In Japan, legal workers are given lapel pins. The pins in game are actually replicas of real life Japanese legal lapel pins. Remember, this series takes place in Japanifornia!
From what I understand, the Japanifornia thing is a joke in the community. The games and show take place in normal Japan, but the American localization of the DS game had it take place in California for reasons similar to Brock saying that onigiri is jelly filled donuts in the pokemon anime.
@@mariotheundying yes. But the American localization team at the time did not think kids would know what Japan is. I dont know who was in charge, but a similar example would be 4Kids changing onigiri into jelly filled donuts in the pokemon anime.
Imagine his surprise when he found out that this case is the most normal case in the entire franchise. I swear this franchise is more adventure-comedy than mystery.
All layers are airbenders, didn't you know that? Did gumfuck not tell you? *Salary cutting noises* You should take a look at this *updated airbending Report*
@@lotusluminance5872 gumfuck is the absolute authority on air bending so he would definitely know, and if he doesn't know I sure hope he remembers he's up for review soon.
real lawyers always react to the first case of ace attorney. fine enough, they make some good points. but I wanna see a lawyer react to that one case in Dual Destinies (5th game) where the defendant is an orca, and the prosecutor is an active death row inmate with a feral hawk as an assistant council, and they cross-examine the orca, and there's a penguin in the courtroom at one point
@@duffman18 The parrot, the serial killer on a radio, and a dead person's spirit called by a medium are in the anime though. Even without the orca, the franchise can be real weird.
It was never about realism It's about that feeling of piecing together all the clues like a detective and putting them to use to solve zany, other the top murders.
You're telling me a witness can't give multiple contradictory testimonies over and over again, withold evidence, and admit openly that the prosecutor specifically told them to lie in their testimony without ANYONE trying to declare it a mistrial? And that's just what only the witnesses do in almost every case in this series
LegalEagle: I would never recommend someone to represent someone they know so well. Phoenix Wright: Has Defended Larry Butz twice, Edgeworth once, and Maya four times.
"The defense, especially in a criminal case, bears no burden whatsoever." LOL you, sir, have no idea of the rabbit hole you just stepped into. In the world of Phoenix Wright, you are not innocent until proven guilty; you are not even guilty until proven innocent; you are guilty until someone else is proven guilty in your place. Yeah, not exactly a fair justice system.
Actually this isn't 100% there are plenty of normal cases in the world of ace attorney where the true criminal isn't found. It just happens that the cases you play in the game are all radical suspense stories of murder. Nick Apollo Athena blackquil Payne and even Edgeworth take normal cases behind the scenes.
Judge:thank you for this evidence that 100% proves that the defendant is not guilty but who could be the culprit Defense:... I dont know Also judge: I DECLARE THAT THE DEFENDANT IS GUILTY 100% NO DOUBT ABOUT IT
Jeremy Wilson she’s his daughter? I thought she was his wife Edit: to everyone seeing this, please note that I thought that Franzika was about 35-40 when I first saw her.
Well depends on which anime because some animes have realistic fight scenes. If you are talking about Naturo, Dragon Ball or Pretty Cure on the other hand than I think any human being would know that this is unrealistic and also you would be dead after like two minutes due to the fact that the characters can punch gigantic craters in the ground.
People always talk about Japan's high conviction rate, but Harvard Law did a study of their system and found that it's high because prosecution only moves forward with "sure thing" cases. They do this because Japan's court system is underfunded and understaffed. You can google the study for more info.
“the prosecutor can’t just magically pull out some record and enter it into evidence, especially in the middle of an examination of a witness” edgeworth, with his updated autopsy report: well ain’t that a damn shame
@@jacen884 yes but in that case It has to be established why the first report is wrong. In this case you have essentially two expert testimonies that are contradicting each other you have to know why.
@@Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoat If a case goes to court it's because they are really certain that they are going to win. But as a consequence a lot of cases never go to court at all.
Considering a 14 year old ‘blind’ and ‘non english speaking’ boy got convicted all because his fingerprints are on a vent which was ‘the only way out’, I’d say this is quite accurate
True. It’s a satire of the Japanese law system where things have been pushed so far into the absurd territory that it makes ones thankful for the constitutional rights that stop the real world from becoming like that.
@@starmada105 phoenix won a trial when he didn't have a single memory AND got the same defendant acquitted after she was accused of murder AGAIN in a retrial that was needed because he didn't have a single memory of the trial (because he was being impersonated the first time)
@@kate_alt Actually, as we can see, there is usually a large gap between the sentence being announced and the execution (just like IRL). We see it in the case of Terry Fawles and... his girlfriend that inmates spend at least several years on death row. It probably means that von Karma died of old age, poor health or broken heart in detention.
@fish cocaine Eh, you are given all the info, somewhat at start, you can re examine and inspect the case more easily, where as this, its going at a pace, now that pace may be good or bad, and at that it can leave out, different options or details.
I know it's an older video, but I wanted to clarify a couple of points. The legal system in Ace Attorney is very loosely based on the Japanese system. It's partially a satire of real elements of their system (like a less consistent pretrial discovery, which used to not be practiced at all in Japanese courts), but mostly a system designed to make each case an interesting uphill battle for the player. The Ace Attorney games are set in a dystopian alternate reality where the murder rate is so high that the government has responded in two ways: by assuming the guilt of the defendant (which is why Phoenix was trying to prove his client's innocence) and by putting a *three day time limit* on trials, giving the attorneys very little time to defend their clients.
Technically speaking these three day trials are a _filtering_ mechanism; anyone found guilty at these trials are held for a more formal hearing at a higher court (the Judge references this in most game over messages).
Yeah,but the downside is the pacing.From what I heard,they compressed Ace Attorney 1 and Justice for All into one season.Which...kinda sucks,actually.If you're making an anime adaptation of a visual novel-type game,i say give us more episodes to focus on all the details of the games,and even include some laughs as well,such as the ladder vs stepladder banter.
Welcome to Japan, where there's no discovery phase and no jury. Being a defense attorney in Japan is HARD, because the deck is stacked so heavily in favor of the prosecution of criminal matters. This game still has a ton of inaccuracies to the Japanese courts, I believe, but it does capture the spirit of how much of an absolute uphill battle it is to get an innocent verdict.
OBJECTION! While Japanese courts do, in fact, have notoriously high conviction rates a large part of this lies in case selection. Typically it's only the most blatantly guilty criminals who are even brought to court in the first place, meaning it's less an issue of the courts finding innocents guilty and more an issue of the courts primarily only dealing with the guilty.
@@spymaster0035 that's not true either, the reason why few cases make it to court is because Japanese police os known for extorting confessions from people who are held without trial for months.
@@truedarklander Last time I checked, a suspect can be held for 23 days ...NOT months....because if the police doesn't have any evidence by then, you can't submit the case to court.
Or the witness who brought a sword to the witness stand. Or Blackquill who is apparently throwing knives or daggers at people, or Godot who throws ceramic mugs full of hot coffee at people. And then there was the one guy who somehow brought a bomb!
@@erikaz1590 and Franziska Von Karma, who is, FOR SOME REASON, allowed to not only bring a whip to court, but to hit people with it, including the judge.
"The defence attorney here isn't trying to show that the witness in particular committed the murder. All he has to do is show that there is a reasonable doubt that his client did." *Laughs in the entire game structure*
Rule number 3, don't go near the judge or jury during the trial; the bailiff will tackle you. Rule number 4, you can't make argument whenever you want, do it during closing arguments. Rule number 5, don't piss off the judge.
Also, it's a way to save money and memory when making the videogame, since it's not that easy to redraw sprites for all characters with different clothes.
OBJECTION! This is just a small thing, and I'm sure you may have heard this before. But in the games Phoenix Wright DOES talk to Larry for a bit before the trial starts. Being honest, the games have more to show and possibly tell than the Anime. A single case story in a game can take up to ten hours, so they had to narrow it down to either twenty minutes or a multi part episode.
The anime also skips over a short scene where Phoenix considers objecting to Larry taking the stand, but decides not to because of his philosophy of "believe in the defendant's innocence".
Okay, seriously. I wish I’d gotten to see him reacting to that one time Phoenix handed Miles his badge, and somehow that meant he could be a defense attorney instead of a prosecutor now.
Well in Japan the court can be boiled down to “guilty until proven innocent” since the general consensus is that if you got as far as being in court you most certainly did it.
I love how many things he's questioning about Ace Attorney in just the first 5 minutes. Like, how do we tell this guy that we'll have a parrot as a witness in a later case? Or the use of mystic arts on trial? We had ghosts too
@@stargazer8g2 Well, that was anime filler, so at least that one can be blamed on the anime studio rather than on the series (not like the actual series is beyond doing that, though)
@HQ I wonder if he's ever channeled Lionel Hutz and said: "How about that! I looked something up! These books behind me don't just make the office look good, they're filled with useful legal tidbits just like that!"
Whips, hot coffee and whatever Blackquill is doing. The wiki says he is using his fingers since he obviously is not allowed to carry any weapons, but I call bs on that
*Objection!* Im pretty sure its 16. The last one that made it 17 was thrown at Mr. Wright. Heres math for you. 16+ 16, So 1+1 is 2. 6+6 is 12. So that makes it 32 coffee cups that armando diego has dranken in the court. So there it is. My Mathematics Objection.
The storyline of Phoenix is actually very good in the games. He goes from believing that all clients are innocent and he needs to save them (taught by Mia, who accepts that her methods are limited and quite blinding at some point) to knowing that what matters is finding the truth so justice can be applied properly even if he is somehow connected to the case. It's really interesting the transition because the first game is basically in Phoenix's favor and every defendant is innocent, but then the second game introduces the idea that it might not be like that and the third throws in the personal factor, a real good story.
@@waldoman7 Hm, no? Being a good defense attorney isn't saving everyone, it's finding the truth and working with it. There's an entire case on the second game that touches exactly that
@@claralima1967 "Being a good defense attorney isn't saving everyone, it's finding the truth and working with it" Wrong. Being a good defense attorney is using every single tool that you have in order to prove in court that your client is innocent. That's it, nothing more and nothing less. It's never about "finding the truth". That's the duty for the judge and jury, not you as the defense attorney.
@@triparadox.c Right. Can't argue with that. It's his job, even if the client is guilty and he knows it. I guess he is a bad defense attorney, after all. I might've gotten swept up by the game's narrative 🤷
Makes me wonder what a defense attorney is supposed to do when during the trial they themselves are being convinced of the defendent's guilt. Would they have to let themselves dismissed due to conflict of interests?
@darren6458 the issue with doing my research is, I could find articles for and against. It is legitimately fine to ask someone to show me what they mean. You don't have to be a dick about it.
"The prosecutor can't pull out evidence during a witness testimony that has nothing to do with that information" Manfred Von Karma objects in the sternest possible yell.
OBJECTION! Wright does say he got the badge a couple months and that this will be his first real trial. It's not his first day but his first real trial.
"The prosecutor can't just magically pull out some record and enter it into a evidence" - Actually, in Japan, they totally can! Japan uses an inquisitorial legal system as opposed to the U.S and U.K's Adversarial Legal system, which means things such as the judge having a much greater hand in not only evidence gathering, but evidence presentation (They can even question and interrogate defendants and witnesses) but also evidence can be entered during a trial, precedent also has much less of an impact there and judges have a wider discretion on giving punishments! It kind of lives up to the moniker of "Inquisitorial" to be honest, the trial itself places an emphasis on "discovery of the truth" as opposed to the adversarial system, where everything is more or less known and entered into the court records beforehand and the key purpose of the trial is "winning versus losing".
Everyone else here: I wanna see him react to Phoenix cross-examining a parrot and Edgeworth's updated autopsy report Me: I wanna see him react to the guy who plead guilty to a robbery charge so he could double-jeopardy his way out of a murder charge
@@bastoshaqq Ace Attorney 3, season 2 of the anime. There's also a guy who straight up impersonates Phoenix so he can frame someone else and give them an intentionally bad defense.
No kinds of counterarguments. I just want to say, as someone who's only played the games and not watched the anime, it's REALLY weird hearing Prosecutor Payne with a normal voice and not his screeching bird-esque voice. XD
Since I haven't seen anyone mention this yet, the keychain at 3:01 signifies the friendship between Phoenix, Larry (the defendant), and Edgeworth (one of the prosecutors in later episodes). As children, they all enjoyed a TV show called Signal Samurai, so as a sign of their friendship, they each hold a keychain depicting one of Signal Samurai's three color-coded protagonists (Phoenix has the blue one, Larry has the yellow one, and Edgeworth has the red one). The keychains make several appearances throughout the series to consistently remind you that their friendship still holds strong, even in adulthood.
"Trials take months, sometimes years, to litigate..." If I recall correctly, the games explicitly addressed this by saying legislation had been passed requiring all trials to conclude in three days (and presumably, they all start the day after someone is arrested, which is generally within hours of the crime being discovered).
I agree with others that I wish he'd reacted to the games and not the anime. The games do a far better job of explaining this combined USA/Japanese legal system. As I remember, trials are only allowed to take 3 days in the games. This was due to the fact the courts were overloaded with various cases and this was their solution to speed things along. I don't agree with it, but yeah, that's how they did it. If I had the lawyer education, I'd happily react to the games, as I quite enjoy them. Then again, Phoenix Wright does go into supernatural territory with one character being a medium, another having some power to read emotions (I think?) and there was even some "memories of the dead" mechanic in the latest iteration. Either way, the games are at least fun, even if not realistic at all.
Objection: the game is lawyering the Japanese legal system as its incredibly archaic and the best lawyer in Japan only successfully defended six clients, because once your trail has reached court in Japan it tends to be that you've basically already been considered guilty as it's almost impossible to actually win a Japanese court case
Camilo Mella Literally all of the prosecutors in the AA series. Exculpatory evidence means nothing in the AA series. The prosecution is basically allowed to just blindside the defense with whatever evidence or witnesses they find at any moment.
Objection! The Japanese bar does actually issue pins to lawyers that must be returned if they are disbarred. They have a sort of attorney id number on the back and everything. I think that's just one of those different national legal system things.
@@DaBeezKneez Objection overruled, the relevance is earlier on the episode when Law Falcon said they don't give badges. No speculation is present, it's a real rule.
@@DEMIxGODxSHADOW OBJECTION all lawyers even new ones get badges www.japantimes.co.jp/community/2015/02/23/issues/badges-honor-japans-legal-lapel-pins-really-mean/#.XmwI8nIo-Uk
@@thatnorwegianguy1986 all trial lawyers. The person posting the same article I was going off of starts by saying he just got his after 2 years of working in law. First trial but he would have been working in law likely for a while unless he is some kind of prodigy which again I think in part calls question to the inexperienced comment at the beginning of the video
@pokedash1221 isn't there one later trial where Lady Von Karma took a picture of either Pearl or Maya as they were channeling Mia to prove that their spiritual ability is substantial? I think it was to refute Phoenix's argument that Maya did not murder the victim because she didn't have a motive.
Yeah, that whole “reasonable doubt” stuff doesn’t really fly in Japanese courts. It’s basically “either the defendant committed the crime, or someone else did. And I don’t *see* anyone else, sooo...” Lol
ReginaldVonSir the biggest reason for that is that prosecutors have a very low budget. Thus, they only take the people with the highest chance of being found guilty to court. It's not because their prosecutors are extremely good, just that they only try the most slam-dunk cases.
Objection! You said that nobody would take an attorney who had never been in a trial before for their homicide case but this can be overlooked considering who the the defendant is: Larry butz, due to Larry's unconditional belief in Wright as soon as he found out he was a lawyer (and got himself in legal trouble) I can say with 100% certainty he would call phoenix
LegalEagle: "And he's apparently wearing the same thing that he was wearing on the day of the murder." Me: It's called anime logic, something you don't question.
@@TLAF923 remember when Phoenix proved Will Powers was innocent in The Turnabout Samurai, but the trial kept going until he proved who the real killer was? It really is guilty until someone else is proven guilty
The dark side of that conviction rate being police who conspire with prosecutors to hide evidence, manipulate witnesses, or even fabricate evidence. And, of course, the fact that if the prosecution cannot 100% guarantee a conviction they simply won't prosecute. Charges get dropped, the incident gets buried, and with civil law in Japan being what it is, you can't even try and pressure them with the news or social media or you'll get sued for libel. Because in Japan, it's still libel, even if it's true. Sometimes especially if it's true.
OBJECTION! An important thing to note about Ace Attorney is that the whole franchise is one big satire on the Japanese justice system, which was way less fair than our own. The prosecutor getting more say on the trial and the defense lawyer getting effectively dissed throughout? That's accurate to Japan, as prosecutors are given much more influence because they served directly under Judges, who were considered royalty at a period of time (that's the gist of the reason at least). And the Japanese very much had a "guilty unless proven innocent" approach to their courts, and there was no benefit of doubt. If you're convicted of a crime in Japan you *will* receive punishment (which, in the case of murder, would most likely be execution, as Japan still practices that) unless there's 100% without doubt that you're innocent, or someone else was proven to be guilty of the crime/outright confessed to it, hence why Phoenix tries so hard to prove Mr. Sahwit was the real murderer; not only was it freaking blatant, but too often it's the only way for a defense lawyer to prove their client innocent Indeed, one of the main creators of Ace Attorney is a Japanese Defense Lawyer, who in the span of 25 years only managed to prove FIVE of his clients innocent! And that's considered exceptionally successful, as most Japanese Defense Lawyers don't ever win a case in their entire careers. As you can imagine, he helped create this franchise to show just how thick-headed the court system in Japan is, which thankfully worked in some aspects as "court jury's" had been implemented after the first three games, to which a fourth game was made to promote the jury system (which people were having doubts of) by being the sole reason the "main villain" gets arrested, as he destroyed a crucial piece of evidence and would've escaped punishment despite being blatantly guilty of the given crime Of course, other legal inaccuracies in Ace Attorney are done in order to make the games more fun and engaging, namely how evidence is utilized. In order to progress and ultimately win the games, you have to present specific evidence that contradicts a given statement in a witnesses testimony (think in terms of a puzzle game: you have to figure out which statement is false and what evidence shows the witness to he lying). That's why the prosecutor and defense are able to just pull out and insert new evidence in the middle of the trial; it's to stay accurate to the games (though I wouldn't be surprised if real Japanese prosecutors did that kind of crap, since they are determined to "win" court cases at all costs, and would get away with it because of the aforementioned privilege) All that said, this was a great watch lol I've always been curious as to how real life lawyers would take to Ace Attorney, and your response did not disappoint XD If you take suggestions, would you make a video on "12 Angry Men"? Although, if you don't mind me asking, why are you "reviewing" certain media involving the legal system when your channel is otherwise all about law school?
The death sentence in Japan is very rare for cases of single murders and usually only applied to multiple murders. That mistake makes me feel like I need to ask for a source on the rest of this.
@@Tali2161Zorah Ooooohhhhh lol I did not know about that 😅 I got the impression that Japan applies the death sentence to any murders, since they already have/had a very one-sided court system. But that's a LOT more reasonable. Thanks for the correction
Me just listening to LegalEagle talking about how long a trial takes to set up and begin and going "oh boy, wait till he finds out that every trial and investigation must be completed in 3 days."
React to the game instead (maybe a playthrough with no commentary) and you’ll have much more understanding of how Pheonix Wright gets his information/evidence.
@@The_Twero It's not a good summary unless you've already played the game. The anime didn't lead with how the court system works in Phoenix's world, and that's like forgetting to explain how the Death Note works in an adaptation. Each of the games gives a spiel on it because it's literally the set up for the reason why court cases happen the way they do in universe.
"Why is the judge asking questions" trust me, man, don't mention it, it's the best thing ever, or else Manfred will own the court and Franziska will whip the hell out of everyone.
Objection, the legal system in Ace Attorney does not operate under the law that states a defendant is innocent until proven guilty. Rather than the defense attorney needing to prove reasonable doubt, the prosecutor simply needs to cast reasonable suspicion.
@@Felixr2 Representing oneself is allowed, even without a law degree. But yes, many of the cases involve Nick representing a defendant he knows or it's a crime he was a direct witness to, which is a big no-no
On the one hand, I love Phoenix Wright. On the other hand, I am fully aware that the Japanese criminal justice system is basically going to come across as Martian law to an American attorney. Let's see where it goes.
The way the game works is even more bizarre from a legal perspective. There are some cases where at a certain point you have proven the innocence of your client, going way beyond a reasonable doubt, but then the judge is basically like "well...then who did it? Guilty!"
Like the case with will powers where you could prove that he was druged and thus slept through the whole murder but edgeworth was like " dur dee dur that doesnt prove the people in the trailer were the killer" while in my mind "obviously it doesnt but it does prove that he didnt do it and thus wont be liable for the murder. My job is to prove he didnt do it not find the one who did it"
Objection! The anime does skip some key parts of the cases, in the game you actually do talk to your client before the trial. Also each case in-game takes place within 3 days cause in-game it used to take too long to get to each case and finish it so it was shortened to 3 days so that's the main reason the cases seem so rushed and unrealistic in the anime while making perfect sense in the game.
Not to mention the whole point of the series is how corrupt and unfair the system is to defendants. Phoenix is looking to help make it fair for them, hence why he (usually) only helps innocent people.
Ho boy, this is only the tip of the ice berg. Cross examined animals, the ku rain trial, having only a drone to testify, von karma and whips, and of course edgeworth famous line “that autopsy report is outdated”
6:58 in the game he actually does, Larry goes on a huge story about how he doesn’t care if he gets the death penalty because he wants to be with his love
The first three were previously Japan-only GBA releases (which is why Grossberg is barely animated). That’s why Case 1-5 goes overboard with the animation: it’s DS-original.
Objection!! The anime really doesnt do the original case justice. If you can watch a playthrough of the game and you'll see how much was actually missing
Hold it!! it would take around 40 minutes to complete the first trial, which means that since he's watching the anime he simply wouldn't have enough time to do so.
Not this case, I would argue to have him review the Next case to give an official review since that brings in evidence documentation, autopsy reports, and witness statements
@@SerrifinWhich is how Phoenix usually wins his cases including case 2 luck lots and lots of dumb luck, along with a good amount of bluffing and either Maya, or Pearl channeling Mia but mostly Phoenix's victories in court are due to sheer dumb luck.
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LegalEagle can we ask legal questions
One of my favorite movies is "Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil." There is some court stuff. But I'm not sure how great for a video it would be.
You should do a video on dressing like a lawyer and suiting-up tips! (I don't know if its already been done, sorry if so!)
@Kandinsky season one, episode 2 is pretty good. I think it was episode 2. Fantastic show, so kudos for suggesting it!
"The prosecutor cant just pull out some evidence"
*laughs in Edgeworth*
“Your autopsy report is... outdated”
@@muneshxge *salary cutting noises*
i really want to see how he reacts to edgeworth hahaha
*LAUGHS IN VON KARMA*
You say it like it would be allowed in Real life
"You can't just pull out some record and enter it in as evidence."
Edgeworth:*Laughs in autopsy update.*
Let's not forget the Wiretap.. That's highly illegal in the US lol
Now say it with me: IN JAPAN...
He lives in california
@@Nexus71c
*_Your autopsy is.... o u t d a t e d_*
Let's not forget about franziska Von karma.
wait til he sees phoenix cross-examining a parrot, a radio, and a spirit.
stopdropandroll don’t forget the orca
@@theorangeguy6704 i havent played past Apollo justice so pls dont spoil
Believe it or not when I was watching a reaction on it I said "Well why don't we cross-examine the parrot" as a joke but then they actually did I was like "What th- I was kidding"
and an Orca...
Thanks for spoiling everything i knew The parrot but... 😂
“Trials take months, or even years, to litigate”
“Three days. Take it or leave it.”
I laughed at the same point XD
@@khamjaninja. True
@@khamjaninja. In that sense it successfully captures the near sisyphean task of actually winning a case as a defense attorney in japan.
@@khamjaninja. japanafornia law system really hates defense attorneys
@@ihavepermissiontospamracia7794 Hey, at least you get a cute girl as an assistant.
"The prosecutor can't just magically pull out some record and enter it into a evidence"
Miles Edgeworth : Hold my updated autopsy report
It’s called Japan apparently
They pull it out of their ass
@@themilkman7664 more like "video game plot twist"
But yeah
@@themilkman7664 *japanofornia*
Actually I think you mean to say
“Edgeworth: “hold my fixed autopsy report”
Judge: *Says "Larry Butts"*
Legal Eagle: *Doesn't laugh*
This man is a professional.
I'd like to thank you... this made me laugh. I needed it
@@ddlcfan5539 No problem. I'm just surprised no-one else mentioned it.
@@PlebNC "okay, that's an... interesting name"
Maybe he would have cracked a smile if the defendant's first name was Seymour...
@@alwrig Now I want to see the scene editted so the faces and voices are editted to look/sound like Moe and Bart from the Simpsons.
7:25 “That’s bad news for Phoenix Wright!”
You just described Phoenix’s entire career as a Lawyer in one sentence.
Phoenix Wright: *exists*
God: "that's bad news for Phoenix Wright!"
LMAO
Also the reason why Phoenix wins a lot of his cases is bluffing, and luck lots of and lots of luck.
@@derrickhaggard And His "Intimidating","Scary" Hair
@@derrickhaggard And Mia appearing every now and then
Objection: In Japan, legal workers are given lapel pins. The pins in game are actually replicas of real life Japanese legal lapel pins. Remember, this series takes place in Japanifornia!
"Eat your hamburgers, Apollo"
Like Yakuza members
From what I understand, the Japanifornia thing is a joke in the community. The games and show take place in normal Japan, but the American localization of the DS game had it take place in California for reasons similar to Brock saying that onigiri is jelly filled donuts in the pokemon anime.
@@bucket9144 I'm pretty sure kids would know what Japan is
@@mariotheundying yes. But the American localization team at the time did not think kids would know what Japan is. I dont know who was in charge, but a similar example would be 4Kids changing onigiri into jelly filled donuts in the pokemon anime.
"You don't want to bring up the autopsy report unless..."
Me, knowing they never shut up about the autopsy report, ever: *stifled laugh*
They do the same in American legal shows. Everybody gets that wrong.
You ever wonder how Gumshoe pays the bills with so many autopsy reports coming in?
why your comment make me think of datz..
Hey guys, I had another autopsy done just two seconds ago, so here’s the updated autopsy.
That autopsy report is *outdated your honour*
lol update
The fact that he didn’t question the airbender scenes is the proof that all advocates have to go through an airbending tutorial.
Hell yeah court is fun
Or so I hear
They have repaired for the fire nation attack
@HQ i’m applying to lawyering school as we speak
@@nicoleonlysometimes824 nice, good luck!
"it can actually be harder if you truly believe someone is innocent" damn no wonder phoenix is so stressed all the time
To be fair, 9 times out of 10 they *are* innocent
Don’t forget the final case of Justice For All, my mans had it bad
O LIVER
holy shite i used to watch your videos all the time
you’re a big inspiration for me dude, keep doing what you’re doing
Well it's a bit easier when the actual killer is sitting 10 meters away eating popcorn
@@therealSunTzu very cool actual Sun Tzu
Imagine his surprise when he found out that this case is the most normal case in the entire franchise. I swear this franchise is more adventure-comedy than mystery.
That's what's makes it more interesting!
It really is. Then in the anime they have an anime original arc that gives you tonal whiplash from how straight laced it feels.
@@Algebruh2407 doesn’t the court room like collapse into this battle ground between phoenix and edgeworth at one point?
We are talking about the parrot are we?
@@JoJo.mp4 the parrot, interrogating a radio, exercising a ghost, holding a retrial on a train,
"You're not trying to prove that the witness did the murder."
Oh. Oh poor LegalEagle. That's literally the WHOLE premise of these games XD
I thought the point was to proof the judge was murderer!
I would like but u have nice likes.
@@maple7093 done it gone
@@maple7093 stfu
also you have to prove the motive of the crime
I love how there was no reaction to Phoenix Wright being knocked down by the sudden gust of wind from the witnesses hand
It's because it also happens in real life
All layers are airbenders, didn't you know that? Did gumfuck not tell you? *Salary cutting noises* You should take a look at this *updated airbending Report*
@@lotusluminance5872 gumfuck is the absolute authority on air bending so he would definitely know, and if he doesn't know I sure hope he remembers he's up for review soon.
that just happens sometimes
It is because that is not illegal in 49 states.
(True fact, I checked).
OBJECTION!
In Japan, attorneys do, in fact, have badges.
Well thats uncalled for😅
Clearly he's speaking from an American judicial point of view.
Seamus Corey
Hold it!
He clearly said he had no knowledge of the japanese systems. He’s speaking from his experiences as an American attorney!
HOLD IT!
Are you just gonna skip past the comic sans title?
Sustained
real lawyers always react to the first case of ace attorney. fine enough, they make some good points. but I wanna see a lawyer react to that one case in Dual Destinies (5th game) where the defendant is an orca, and the prosecutor is an active death row inmate with a feral hawk as an assistant council, and they cross-examine the orca, and there's a penguin in the courtroom at one point
This is reacting to the anime, not the game, though
@@duffman18 The parrot, the serial killer on a radio, and a dead person's spirit called by a medium are in the anime though. Even without the orca, the franchise can be real weird.
I want to see them reacting to Turnabout goodbyes, RFTA & Farewell my Turnabout
Mcscuse me I just played the first game
@@gold_hampter4017 you heard me.
also play the rest, they're REALLY good. (fyi tho the case i described is DLC)
LegalEagle: “He has no idea about the autopsy report”
Edgeworth: “I agree”
*Laughs in tsk tsk*
@@onskrieg did gumfuck not tell you?
@@zacross8504 ah yes gumfuck my favorite video game character.
@@zacross8504 You already left the same reply to another comment on this video...
@@killerbug05 ah yes
"You would never wear a T-shirt, crazy hair and a goatee to court"
Boy oh boy you have no idea how wild it gets lol
Everyone who's seen / played more of this canon just like "mmm, that's gonna be the least of your problems with defendants".
just wait for the literal cowboy who drinks in court, and a lady literally cracking a whip against the desk
Butz is like, by far the most normal defendant PW ever interacts with
@@pixelsilzavon77 and the cowboy has a knife to!
Just wait for a bomb to go off in court and someone getting sniped.
In these games, the basis of court trials is "Guilty until someone else is proven guilty"
"Guilty until at least one witness and/or the prosecutor is proven guilty"
@@Felixr2 *Cough cough* DL-6 *Cough cough HACK-* Great. I'm sick
@@Felixr2
"Guilty because someone has to be guilty but we don't know who so you are guilty until proven otherwise"
That's how the Japanese courts work though
@@Felixr2 yep, its either the witness is the murderer or the prosecutor is the murderer lmao wtf
LegalEagle: Ace Attorney is a terrible example of lawyering
All Ace Attorney fans ever: sounds about right
It was never about realism
It's about that feeling of piecing together all the clues like a detective and putting them to use to solve zany, other the top murders.
You're telling me a witness can't give multiple contradictory testimonies over and over again, withold evidence, and admit openly that the prosecutor specifically told them to lie in their testimony without ANYONE trying to declare it a mistrial? And that's just what only the witnesses do in almost every case in this series
@@astralguardian5930I agree
We’re just here to have a good time 😂
@@astralguardian5930 Yeah, at the end of the day it's a video game with a story to tell, not a job simulator LOL
LegalEagle: I would never recommend someone to represent someone they know so well.
Phoenix Wright: Has Defended Larry Butz twice, Edgeworth once, and Maya four times.
Defended even himself
I think Legal High (Japanese drama) mentioned that in Japan it's possible to go on court on your own.
@@yuciehayashi266 you can do that in America as well its just a really bad idea.
@@aliahmed7287 wow.. So is it actually something common? Like I don't even know whether my country allows it or not.
Objection! He has defended Edgeworth two times
"The defense, especially in a criminal case, bears no burden whatsoever."
LOL you, sir, have no idea of the rabbit hole you just stepped into.
In the world of Phoenix Wright, you are not innocent until proven guilty; you are not even guilty until proven innocent; you are guilty until someone else is proven guilty in your place.
Yeah, not exactly a fair justice system.
*idiot dressed to go rob flashbacks*
Actually this isn't 100% there are plenty of normal cases in the world of ace attorney where the true criminal isn't found.
It just happens that the cases you play in the game are all radical suspense stories of murder.
Nick Apollo Athena blackquil Payne and even Edgeworth take normal cases behind the scenes.
Japan's legal system is also buttfucked. It's a situation where like 99.6% of defendents are proven guilty.
Judge:thank you for this evidence that 100% proves that the defendant is not guilty but who could be the culprit
Defense:... I dont know
Also judge: I DECLARE THAT THE DEFENDANT IS GUILTY 100% NO DOUBT ABOUT IT
@@charlesedwinbooks - I'm referring more to the cases where there's a defendant on trial, the ones you actually see play out.
"Why is the judge asking questions?"
wait till he sees Manfred von Karma
Wait until his daughter starts using that whip on everyone in sight in the courtroom
Jeremy Wilson she’s his daughter? I thought she was his wife
Edit: to everyone seeing this, please note that I thought that Franzika was about 35-40 when I first saw her.
Darkkiller _ Nah, the lovely Franny is his daughter. Going into the lore a little, she and Edgeworth basically grew up together.
Jeremy Wilson ah ok.
Yes
If he thinks Payne is breaking a lot of rules... Payne is one of the cleanest procecutors in the series compared to everyone else.
fr tho hahahah
Franziska: Laughs in whip striking all in the courtroom
@@jadedfire4351 I mean, Gavin isn't too bad.
Being a criminal is one hell of a rule break
(Cough cough) Von Karma (Cough)
@@Chib9 *cough cough Godot*
This is like watching a martial artist reviewing an anime fight scene.
Writing this one down, suggesting it to Buzzfeed.
@@YTDeepshock There's a martial artist called Ramsey that sometimes reviews cartoons, McDojos and self defense videos
Well depends on which anime because some animes have realistic fight scenes. If you are talking about Naturo, Dragon Ball or Pretty Cure on the other hand than I think any human being would know that this is unrealistic and also you would be dead after like two minutes due to the fact that the characters can punch gigantic craters in the ground.
@@Enchantix00Sasori what about JoJo
well damn lol
US: "Innocent" until proven guilty
PW:AA: Guilty until someone else is proven guilty
Japan: Guilty until Proven guilty
Lmfao
XD
People always talk about Japan's high conviction rate, but Harvard Law did a study of their system and found that it's high because prosecution only moves forward with "sure thing" cases. They do this because Japan's court system is underfunded and understaffed. You can google the study for more info.
@@zidbits1528
Well that's even worse than the original problem...
@Tristan Basri
I don't know where you got that particular opinion from, but you do you
“the prosecutor can’t just magically pull out some record and enter it into evidence, especially in the middle of an examination of a witness”
edgeworth, with his updated autopsy report: well ain’t that a damn shame
Damn bro the autopsy report was outdated
Have edgeworth dancing from the video instead
@@jacen884 yes but in that case It has to be established why the first report is wrong. In this case you have essentially two expert testimonies that are contradicting each other you have to know why.
Normal person: This comment is edited
Edgeworth: This comment is *OuTDaTeD*
I HAVE ANOTHER NEW AUTOPSY REPORT!
“Theres no way you can prove theres a bullet in my shoulder!!!”
Wright: laughs in convenient metal detector
Well phoenix wright
I'm sorry but the bullet worked in a chemical factory and has no finger prints
How will you prove it now
@@crystalcarbon OBJECTION!
I am a lawyer!
@@crystalcarbon haha RTGame moment
@@andrearossi6564 Damn I guess the bullet got it's fingerprints back
Judge: *Agrees with Wright and lets him use said detector*
I believe in Judge Supremacy 🛐
"The only time you want to bring up the autopsy report..."
*Miles Edgeworth intensifies*
*OUTDATED INTENSIFIES*
*GUMSHOE INTENSIFIES*
WHIPPING INTENSFIES
MANIPULATING TESTIMONIES INTENSIFIES
-TAKE THAT-
-slamming table intensifies-
Hah, if you think thats bad I can't wait til you meet Miles "Updated Autopsy Report" Edgeworth
Or Manfred "hide evidence I don't want and intimidate the judge" von Karma.
Roberto Azuaje i hate that this is accurate to both manfred and franziska
@@robertoazuaje9279 Manfred "the enlargement doesn't exist, and when it does exist, it isn't relevant" von Karma.
Or Franziska "I'm gonna just whip everyone" von Karma.
@@ryyyysa Oh my God xD
objection: a big part of the original game was to show how one-sided Japanese law is in favor of the prosecution
Which apparently is disturbingly close to reality...
@@Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoat If a case goes to court it's because they are really certain that they are going to win. But as a consequence a lot of cases never go to court at all.
Considering a 14 year old ‘blind’ and ‘non english speaking’ boy got convicted all because his fingerprints are on a vent which was ‘the only way out’, I’d say this is quite accurate
@@jesseanimatess Bruh
True. It’s a satire of the Japanese law system where things have been pushed so far into the absurd territory that it makes ones thankful for the constitutional rights that stop the real world from becoming like that.
“Do you not have any evidence at this point?” Phoenix fought a trial when he didn’t even have a single memory at that point so-
Phoenix *won* a trial when he didn’t even have a single memory at that point so-
@@starmada105 phoenix won a trial when he didn't have a single memory AND got the same defendant acquitted after she was accused of murder AGAIN in a retrial that was needed because he didn't have a single memory of the trial (because he was being impersonated the first time)
10:40
"Why is the judge asking questions?"
Manfred von Karma: Exactly.
Manfred died 1year after final case in aa
@@shourikaen. Yeah probably because he was framed for murder?
@@kate_alt he did admit it tho
@@kate_alt Actually, as we can see, there is usually a large gap between the sentence being announced and the execution (just like IRL). We see it in the case of Terry Fawles and... his girlfriend that inmates spend at least several years on death row. It probably means that von Karma died of old age, poor health or broken heart in detention.
@@Lernos1 people also say that he may have commited suicide
*OBJECTION!*
Anime characters can only wear one outfit!
Unless, of course, they’re going to the beach.
Or to school or Church
Or have some kind of character arc, in which case the clothes/style can change with (hair included).
Nah Phoenix also wears the suit for the beach 😎
*One Piece laughs*
OBJECTION, THEY WEARE 2 OUTFITS AND A BEACH OUTFIT
OBJECTION
In Japan you can pull evidence out of nowhere legally
Really? Wew
I see the intention with it but tbh it sounds like such a serious loophole
L16htW4rr10r most of the time, sadly, yes specially when you are rich and male.
Yep it's part of it's legal system
Wow i thought u where joking
"The prosecutor cant just pull out some evidence"
Edgeworth: Legal Eagle.......... your autopsy is outdated.
I really hope confetti is dropped from the ceiling when the verdict is announced in real court rooms
I think AA Investigations implied it's Gumshoe who cuts up the ticker tape for the confetti
@@l.n.3372 There was an official comic that shows that. I think ProZD did a dub of it
@@penguinmaster1795
It's also dialogue in AAI
Imagine a murderer getting death penalty and suddenly confetti starts dropping, what a mood changer
@@luriv37 omg, or that one trial where the defendant dies on the stand... woo! 🥳
Objection!
By not reacting to the game, this witness is unable to give a reliable testimony. I move for dismissal
Sustained
Seconded.
@fish cocaine Eh, you are given all the info, somewhat at start, you can re examine and inspect the case more easily, where as this, its going at a pace, now that pace may be good or bad, and at that it can leave out, different options or details.
fish cocaine Read the above comment and first half of yours, now i see the second, sorry EDIT about not reacting to the game i mean
@fish cocaine objection!still having diferences,so much of them!
OBJECTION!
*slams table*
There is a clear contradiction in this statement!
*shows attorney badge*
I clicked it on accident on my last sliver of health on the Kidnapping case in Miles Edgeworth.
The classic move
detective gumshoe look this is my attorney's badge
XD
Brandon Driver oh no
I know it's an older video, but I wanted to clarify a couple of points.
The legal system in Ace Attorney is very loosely based on the Japanese system. It's partially a satire of real elements of their system (like a less consistent pretrial discovery, which used to not be practiced at all in Japanese courts), but mostly a system designed to make each case an interesting uphill battle for the player.
The Ace Attorney games are set in a dystopian alternate reality where the murder rate is so high that the government has responded in two ways: by assuming the guilt of the defendant (which is why Phoenix was trying to prove his client's innocence) and by putting a *three day time limit* on trials, giving the attorneys very little time to defend their clients.
Technically speaking these three day trials are a _filtering_ mechanism; anyone found guilty at these trials are held for a more formal hearing at a higher court (the Judge references this in most game over messages).
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Thank you for a detailed, excellent post. Jared.
Was..... kinda hoping he was reacting to the game. Not the anime...
Ikr
TheFrostedfirefly
Same
Ikr, celestial tofu
It's much easier this way though. Besides, the plot is mostly the same.
Yeah,but the downside is the pacing.From what I heard,they compressed Ace Attorney 1 and Justice for All into one season.Which...kinda sucks,actually.If you're making an anime adaptation of a visual novel-type game,i say give us more episodes to focus on all the details of the games,and even include some laughs as well,such as the ladder vs stepladder banter.
Welcome to Japan, where there's no discovery phase and no jury. Being a defense attorney in Japan is HARD, because the deck is stacked so heavily in favor of the prosecution of criminal matters. This game still has a ton of inaccuracies to the Japanese courts, I believe, but it does capture the spirit of how much of an absolute uphill battle it is to get an innocent verdict.
If memory serves Japan's top defense attorney was famous for having like, *5* wins in court. Shit's pretty dire.
OBJECTION! While Japanese courts do, in fact, have notoriously high conviction rates a large part of this lies in case selection. Typically it's only the most blatantly guilty criminals who are even brought to court in the first place, meaning it's less an issue of the courts finding innocents guilty and more an issue of the courts primarily only dealing with the guilty.
@@spymaster0035 that's not true either, the reason why few cases make it to court is because Japanese police os known for extorting confessions from people who are held without trial for months.
@@truedarklander Last time I checked, a suspect can be held for 23 days ...NOT months....because if the police doesn't have any evidence by then, you can't submit the case to court.
@@Miyakolover thats not true even of the US (one word: Guantanamo) 🤣 if a rule doesnt get enforced is it even a rule?
Wait till he sees Phoenix cross examining a parrot and radio, and Fanziska using a whip in court
Or the witness who brought a sword to the witness stand. Or Blackquill who is apparently throwing knives or daggers at people, or Godot who throws ceramic mugs full of hot coffee at people. And then there was the one guy who somehow brought a bomb!
And a whale.
And...The prosecutor...banging his head..to the...yeah..
He would be furious at whoever made the franzisca von karma whip a thing
@@erikaz1590 and Franziska Von Karma, who is, FOR SOME REASON, allowed to not only bring a whip to court, but to hit people with it, including the judge.
"The defence attorney here isn't trying to show that the witness in particular committed the murder. All he has to do is show that there is a reasonable doubt that his client did."
*Laughs in the entire game structure*
Mr Wright if you cant prove this witness is guilty in 10 minutes then your client is no matter how much evidence says they aren't
First Rule of Lawyering: Tell your Client to Shut Up.
Second Rule of Lawyering: If Client continues to speak, repeat rule 1.
Rule number 3, don't go near the judge or jury during the trial; the bailiff will tackle you. Rule number 4, you can't make argument whenever you want, do it during closing arguments. Rule number 5, don't piss off the judge.
Third rule: what are you doing here, go back to rule 1
Third rule: repeat rule 2
And if you think your work is done, than start back at one.
Objection: Anime/manga characters consistently wear the same thing in all scenes. This is a common trope.
William Eldridge you should see Phoenix when he’s a hobo in Apollo justice... dude, I love your camera beanie, where can I get one?
objection sustained... hee
420th like
Does not animated characters in general wear the same clothes most of the time?
Its the same on American and European cartoons.
Also, it's a way to save money and memory when making the videogame, since it's not that easy to redraw sprites for all characters with different clothes.
Woo boy, I wonder how he would've reacted to the prosecution legit withholding an updated autopsy report from the defense
True. When he said the prosecution can't just whip out evidence whenever they please, I was immediately thinking of Miles Edgeworth.
OBJECTION!
This is just a small thing, and I'm sure you may have heard this before. But in the games Phoenix Wright DOES talk to Larry for a bit before the trial starts. Being honest, the games have more to show and possibly tell than the Anime. A single case story in a game can take up to ten hours, so they had to narrow it down to either twenty minutes or a multi part episode.
The anime also skips over a short scene where Phoenix considers objecting to Larry taking the stand, but decides not to because of his philosophy of "believe in the defendant's innocence".
“He shouldn’t be wearing the same clothes he wore on the day of the murder.”
Oh poor LegalEagle. Larry literally always wears that.
I see you like total drama
Except that one time he wore a Santa costume.
To be honest, Larry is the only character that changes his clothes almost every game he appears in
Okay, seriously. I wish I’d gotten to see him reacting to that one time Phoenix handed Miles his badge, and somehow that meant he could be a defense attorney instead of a prosecutor now.
When did that happen?
Wait, do you mean case 5 game 3?
@@larrybutz1391 yes
Larry Butz Wait , what are you doing watching a UA-cam video
Hell, even a cardboard cutout is enough to become a defense attorney, as seen with the third case in the third game (no details due to spoilers).
Well in Japan the court can be boiled down to “guilty until proven innocent” since the general consensus is that if you got as far as being in court you most certainly did it.
yup
*laughs in America*
Sonario648 ︻╦̵̵̿╤── g u n
seems...kind of excessive.
LegendaryMarston there’s a reason the have such a high conviction rate.
I love how many things he's questioning about Ace Attorney in just the first 5 minutes. Like, how do we tell this guy that we'll have a parrot as a witness in a later case? Or the use of mystic arts on trial? We had ghosts too
What about a full blown trial on a fu*king train with Edgeworth via zoom call or whatever that was???
@@stargazer8g2 Well, that was anime filler, so at least that one can be blamed on the anime studio rather than on the series (not like the actual series is beyond doing that, though)
Objection: actually I don’t have one I just wanna say nice tie
@holpy opiniões TAKE THAT! *all of LegalEagle’s earnings*
@HQ I wonder if he's ever channeled Lionel Hutz and said:
"How about that! I looked something up! These books behind me don't just make the office look good, they're filled with useful legal tidbits just like that!"
TAKE THAT!
It’s so long!
@HQ It’s just a visually appealing, classy background. It’s not that deep.
Wait till he meets the physically abusive prosecutors
Whips, hot coffee and whatever Blackquill is doing. The wiki says he is using his fingers since he obviously is not allowed to carry any weapons, but I call bs on that
OneToxicPixel I always thought it would be a feather!
C h I c k e n s a l t
OneToxicPixel 😂 and like necklaces from “sad monk”
@@OneToxicPixel and tasers!
Wait till he sees a man drinking 17 coffees in the court
16. The last one is thrown to the defense
@@user-bj5ki6sr6c 15/5 half a cup goes to the defense
*Objection!* Im pretty sure its 16. The last one that made it 17 was thrown at Mr. Wright.
Heres math for you. 16+ 16, So 1+1 is 2. 6+6 is 12. So that makes it 32 coffee cups that armando diego has dranken in the court.
So there it is. My Mathematics Objection.
@@soyjackz Isn’t that assault
@Shadow Ling he surely didn't get charged for it.
OBJECTION! Not once did I hear anyone say, "if something smells, it's probably the Butz." How can anyone properly react without this critical line?
thats what I am saying
"Your honor, I would like to cross-examine the witness's pet parrot"
- Phoenix Wright
lol i wished he got to that part of the anime
Everyone: ..............
Von Karma: i know i suggested it but wtf
don't forget the Orca too
The irony that IRL a parrot was used to put away his mobster owner
Me: Oh cool, a lawyer playing Ace Attorney
Also me: *Clicks video*
Video: *is anime*
Me: *surprised Pikachu*
Lol the whole game is base off the anime
@kite man really!? Oh oops
Nick Rekieta is not only playing the game.
He also voice dubs it. Peak quality.
@@jamiemations12 the anime is based off the game that came out in the early 2000s I believe 2001 but I could be wrong
@@DrMoonRose You're not. Even this guy (sorry, first video) did state at the beginning of the video that the anime was based on the game.
The storyline of Phoenix is actually very good in the games. He goes from believing that all clients are innocent and he needs to save them (taught by Mia, who accepts that her methods are limited and quite blinding at some point) to knowing that what matters is finding the truth so justice can be applied properly even if he is somehow connected to the case. It's really interesting the transition because the first game is basically in Phoenix's favor and every defendant is innocent, but then the second game introduces the idea that it might not be like that and the third throws in the personal factor, a real good story.
Sooooo he goes from a good defense attorney to the world's worst defense attorney? That's his character arc?
@@waldoman7 Hm, no? Being a good defense attorney isn't saving everyone, it's finding the truth and working with it. There's an entire case on the second game that touches exactly that
@@claralima1967 "Being a good defense attorney isn't saving everyone, it's finding the truth and working with it"
Wrong. Being a good defense attorney is using every single tool that you have in order to prove in court that your client is innocent. That's it, nothing more and nothing less. It's never about "finding the truth". That's the duty for the judge and jury, not you as the defense attorney.
@@triparadox.c Right. Can't argue with that. It's his job, even if the client is guilty and he knows it. I guess he is a bad defense attorney, after all. I might've gotten swept up by the game's narrative 🤷
Makes me wonder what a defense attorney is supposed to do when during the trial they themselves are being convinced of the defendent's guilt. Would they have to let themselves dismissed due to conflict of interests?
Man, he would so disturbed to learn just how much of this is actually accurate to Japanese law.
It is?
@darren6458 the issue with doing my research is, I could find articles for and against. It is legitimately fine to ask someone to show me what they mean. You don't have to be a dick about it.
"The prosecutor can't pull out evidence during a witness testimony that has nothing to do with that information"
Manfred Von Karma objects in the sternest possible yell.
OBJECTION: CALL THE VERDICT NOW. IT'S BEEN 3 MINUTES. GO ON JUDGE, SLAM THAT GAVEL.
Demon voice: OBJECTION
@Huhnet
Don't forget to snap your fingers, either before or after shouting in a demon voice.
11:30 - The prosecutor can't just whip out evidence in the middle of an investigation.
Me: That's all Phoenix Wright does!
Have you met my friend, the updated autopsy report?
Have you met my friend, the updated autopsy report?
"Why whip out evidence, if you can whip the defense?" Franziska von Karma
they can if they say that before the case it didn't seems relevant. they only have to pass on " relevant" evidence.
@@Merlin1908 "Why throw out bad arguments when you can throw coffee at the defense?"
OBJECTION!
Wright does say he got the badge a couple months and that this will be his first real trial. It's not his first day but his first real trial.
What!
Impossible
N-NO WAY!
nani
So it's confirmed now
Ma-MASAKA
"The prosecutor can't just magically pull out some record and enter it into a evidence" - Actually, in Japan, they totally can! Japan uses an inquisitorial legal system as opposed to the U.S and U.K's Adversarial Legal system, which means things such as the judge having a much greater hand in not only evidence gathering, but evidence presentation (They can even question and interrogate defendants and witnesses) but also evidence can be entered during a trial, precedent also has much less of an impact there and judges have a wider discretion on giving punishments! It kind of lives up to the moniker of "Inquisitorial" to be honest, the trial itself places an emphasis on "discovery of the truth" as opposed to the adversarial system, where everything is more or less known and entered into the court records beforehand and the key purpose of the trial is "winning versus losing".
Of course the reality is that they usually just go "guilty" and move on
Can't believe that i understood everything. Finally, law school is playing off after 3 years
Everyone else here: I wanna see him react to Phoenix cross-examining a parrot and Edgeworth's updated autopsy report
Me: I wanna see him react to the guy who plead guilty to a robbery charge so he could double-jeopardy his way out of a murder charge
"the guy who plead guilty to a robbery charge so he could double-jeopardy his way out of a murder charge" - where can I find that? Thanks
@@bastoshaqq Ace Attorney 3, season 2 of the anime. There's also a guy who straight up impersonates Phoenix so he can frame someone else and give them an intentionally bad defense.
I know a lot of people don't understand double-jeopardy, but this is just ridiculous
Didn't Phoenix also illegally wiretap a witness?
Nah, I wanna see him react to Phoenix performing a straight up exorcism in the court during the Trials and Tribulations finale.
"Dress for the job you want, not the prison cell you have."
- Best life advice I've ever heard
No kinds of counterarguments. I just want to say, as someone who's only played the games and not watched the anime, it's REALLY weird hearing Prosecutor Payne with a normal voice and not his screeching bird-esque voice. XD
That Payne's OBJECTION...
*_OBJECTION!!_*
Not really, Von Karma doesn't sound like a Demon either.
Karma: OB JEC TION!
I always imagined payne with a sniviling weasle voice
Since I haven't seen anyone mention this yet, the keychain at 3:01 signifies the friendship between Phoenix, Larry (the defendant), and Edgeworth (one of the prosecutors in later episodes). As children, they all enjoyed a TV show called Signal Samurai, so as a sign of their friendship, they each hold a keychain depicting one of Signal Samurai's three color-coded protagonists (Phoenix has the blue one, Larry has the yellow one, and Edgeworth has the red one). The keychains make several appearances throughout the series to consistently remind you that their friendship still holds strong, even in adulthood.
"Trials take months, sometimes years, to litigate..."
If I recall correctly, the games explicitly addressed this by saying legislation had been passed requiring all trials to conclude in three days (and presumably, they all start the day after someone is arrested, which is generally within hours of the crime being discovered).
He likely knows that and was just informing the average joe watching this of how long it actually takes
*"Who are you, who are so wise in the ways of science?"*
I don’t think that fact was mentioned in the anime, only the games
oh my god thats another reason he should react to the game NOT the anime.
I agree with others that I wish he'd reacted to the games and not the anime. The games do a far better job of explaining this combined USA/Japanese legal system. As I remember, trials are only allowed to take 3 days in the games. This was due to the fact the courts were overloaded with various cases and this was their solution to speed things along. I don't agree with it, but yeah, that's how they did it. If I had the lawyer education, I'd happily react to the games, as I quite enjoy them.
Then again, Phoenix Wright does go into supernatural territory with one character being a medium, another having some power to read emotions (I think?) and there was even some "memories of the dead" mechanic in the latest iteration. Either way, the games are at least fun, even if not realistic at all.
LegalEagle: litigation could take months
Ace Attorney: you have 3 days.
Wellllllllllllllllllll
@Stevie P, you copied a comment.
@@salman_rudro07 it’s an opinion shared by many, plus many people have bought the game and like it better
This makes a little more sense if you knew Japanese court primarily: lack of jury, showing evidence without discovery, and the judge gets the verdict.
Objection: the game is lawyering the Japanese legal system as its incredibly archaic and the best lawyer in Japan only successfully defended six clients, because once your trail has reached court in Japan it tends to be that you've basically already been considered guilty as it's almost impossible to actually win a Japanese court case
Considering this game has literal spirit mediums it’s not exactly going for realism.
Spirit mediums and psychics have been used by American Police before. It was a very controversial thing.
Don't forget cross examining a parrot
@@imraanakollo-arenz1449 animals have been used as witnesses before too.
Are you triggered?
Waiting to hear about someone using an emotion matrix in a court to complete the series tbh
"The Prosecution is obligated to turn over evidence to the defense".
Does this include updated autopsy reports?
lol. Edgeworth is SO guilty of hidden Discovery to the defense that he shouldn't be even working
Camilo Mella Literally all of the prosecutors in the AA series. Exculpatory evidence means nothing in the AA series. The prosecution is basically allowed to just blindside the defense with whatever evidence or witnesses they find at any moment.
Objection!
The Japanese bar does actually issue pins to lawyers that must be returned if they are disbarred. They have a sort of attorney id number on the back and everything. I think that's just one of those different national legal system things.
objection: relevance, cause for speculation
@@DaBeezKneez Objection overruled, the relevance is earlier on the episode when Law Falcon said they don't give badges. No speculation is present, it's a real rule.
Objection? It also takes a while to get a badge so it's not like phoenix is brand new at this.
@@DEMIxGODxSHADOW OBJECTION all lawyers even new ones get badges www.japantimes.co.jp/community/2015/02/23/issues/badges-honor-japans-legal-lapel-pins-really-mean/#.XmwI8nIo-Uk
@@thatnorwegianguy1986 all trial lawyers. The person posting the same article I was going off of starts by saying he just got his after 2 years of working in law. First trial but he would have been working in law likely for a while unless he is some kind of prodigy which again I think in part calls question to the inexperienced comment at the beginning of the video
Objection, this is pure gold compared to episode 2, where they call on the murder victim through the accused murderer as a defence
Well technically no one(except Phoenix) is really aware of that happening in the first place. Also at that point Phoenix was the one being accused.
@pokedash1221 isn't there one later trial where Lady Von Karma took a picture of either Pearl or Maya as they were channeling Mia to prove that their spiritual ability is substantial? I think it was to refute Phoenix's argument that Maya did not murder the victim because she didn't have a motive.
OBJECTION! i demand you play the video game for us... Please
TAKE THAT!
*HOLD IT*
*Loudly pounds hands against desk*
I agree.
*The prosecution has no objections.*
@@horriblekellible OBJECTION! Does he even know that the game came out before the Anime or that there even Is a game?
Yeah, that whole “reasonable doubt” stuff doesn’t really fly in Japanese courts. It’s basically “either the defendant committed the crime, or someone else did. And I don’t *see* anyone else, sooo...” Lol
Are you basing that off AwkwardZombie? Or was Katie's satire actually right on the money?
Once you research it it becomes shocking how accurate Ace Attourney is.
Yeah conviction rates in Japan are insanely high over there
ReginaldVonSir the biggest reason for that is that prosecutors have a very low budget. Thus, they only take the people with the highest chance of being found guilty to court. It's not because their prosecutors are extremely good, just that they only try the most slam-dunk cases.
salutemeorsh00tme what about the unclear cases?
11:26 The prosecution just can't magically pull out a record and enter it as evidence
Edgesworth: Laughs in *updated autopsy report*
QwQ
And he also ballerina dances when that happens
Von Karma: *Tazed the defense attorney and stole evidence*
Stolen
Umm actually...
Objection! You said that nobody would take an attorney who had never been in a trial before for their homicide case but this can be overlooked considering who the the defendant is: Larry butz, due to Larry's unconditional belief in Wright as soon as he found out he was a lawyer (and got himself in legal trouble) I can say with 100% certainty he would call phoenix
LegalEagle: "And he's apparently wearing the same thing that he was wearing on the day of the murder."
Me: It's called anime logic, something you don't question.
Clothes are part of the personality. It doesn't change unless there's a character arc.
Kevin Meeker or you are Rohan kishibe
@@bendystrawz2832 *OBJECTION!* There are other instances when an anime character can change clothes! Such as when they go to the school or the beach!
Also a bunch of other shows have characters using the same clothes all the time.
And luffy and his crew apparently have a whole closet full of clothes
The Japanese legal system has an INSANELY HIGH conviction rate, so I always took this as a satire of that - guilty until proven innocent.
guilty until someone else is guilty
@@TLAF923 remember when Phoenix proved Will Powers was innocent in The Turnabout Samurai, but the trial kept going until he proved who the real killer was? It really is guilty until someone else is proven guilty
Speaking of anime and the Japanese legal system I can’t wait till the lawyer character in jujutsu kaisen gets adapted
@@Jack_Ss aren’t these games like 20 years old? when did the anime start?
The dark side of that conviction rate being police who conspire with prosecutors to hide evidence, manipulate witnesses, or even fabricate evidence. And, of course, the fact that if the prosecution cannot 100% guarantee a conviction they simply won't prosecute. Charges get dropped, the incident gets buried, and with civil law in Japan being what it is, you can't even try and pressure them with the news or social media or you'll get sued for libel. Because in Japan, it's still libel, even if it's true. Sometimes especially if it's true.
Larry: *Say something*
LE: S H U T U P. .
Oh boy, Oldbag are going to be something.
Ratatattatatt
Huff! Puff!
LE is basically edgeworth
Lotta Hart probably gonna be troubled either
"Have you not spoken to your client?" Welcome to Ace Attorney
OBJECTION!
An important thing to note about Ace Attorney is that the whole franchise is one big satire on the Japanese justice system, which was way less fair than our own. The prosecutor getting more say on the trial and the defense lawyer getting effectively dissed throughout? That's accurate to Japan, as prosecutors are given much more influence because they served directly under Judges, who were considered royalty at a period of time (that's the gist of the reason at least). And the Japanese very much had a "guilty unless proven innocent" approach to their courts, and there was no benefit of doubt. If you're convicted of a crime in Japan you *will* receive punishment (which, in the case of murder, would most likely be execution, as Japan still practices that) unless there's 100% without doubt that you're innocent, or someone else was proven to be guilty of the crime/outright confessed to it, hence why Phoenix tries so hard to prove Mr. Sahwit was the real murderer; not only was it freaking blatant, but too often it's the only way for a defense lawyer to prove their client innocent
Indeed, one of the main creators of Ace Attorney is a Japanese Defense Lawyer, who in the span of 25 years only managed to prove FIVE of his clients innocent! And that's considered exceptionally successful, as most Japanese Defense Lawyers don't ever win a case in their entire careers. As you can imagine, he helped create this franchise to show just how thick-headed the court system in Japan is, which thankfully worked in some aspects as "court jury's" had been implemented after the first three games, to which a fourth game was made to promote the jury system (which people were having doubts of) by being the sole reason the "main villain" gets arrested, as he destroyed a crucial piece of evidence and would've escaped punishment despite being blatantly guilty of the given crime
Of course, other legal inaccuracies in Ace Attorney are done in order to make the games more fun and engaging, namely how evidence is utilized. In order to progress and ultimately win the games, you have to present specific evidence that contradicts a given statement in a witnesses testimony (think in terms of a puzzle game: you have to figure out which statement is false and what evidence shows the witness to he lying). That's why the prosecutor and defense are able to just pull out and insert new evidence in the middle of the trial; it's to stay accurate to the games (though I wouldn't be surprised if real Japanese prosecutors did that kind of crap, since they are determined to "win" court cases at all costs, and would get away with it because of the aforementioned privilege)
All that said, this was a great watch lol I've always been curious as to how real life lawyers would take to Ace Attorney, and your response did not disappoint XD If you take suggestions, would you make a video on "12 Angry Men"? Although, if you don't mind me asking, why are you "reviewing" certain media involving the legal system when your channel is otherwise all about law school?
The death sentence in Japan is very rare for cases of single murders and usually only applied to multiple murders. That mistake makes me feel like I need to ask for a source on the rest of this.
@@Tali2161Zorah Ooooohhhhh lol I did not know about that 😅 I got the impression that Japan applies the death sentence to any murders, since they already have/had a very one-sided court system. But that's a LOT more reasonable. Thanks for the correction
Legal Eagle should read this comment
I think he's done 12 angry men in his general movies episode.
@@jevonbatti Didn't he say something about saying "objection" if you'd like to argue back about how he viewed the anime?
Me just listening to LegalEagle talking about how long a trial takes to set up and begin and going "oh boy, wait till he finds out that every trial and investigation must be completed in 3 days."
React to the game instead (maybe a playthrough with no commentary) and you’ll have much more understanding of how Pheonix Wright gets his information/evidence.
The game's pretty long, though
Illegally he gets most of it illegally
@Cynical Succubus yep
Well, as far as I know, the anime summarize pretty well the cases. Indeed the games give more details, but the course of trials still the same
@@The_Twero It's not a good summary unless you've already played the game. The anime didn't lead with how the court system works in Phoenix's world, and that's like forgetting to explain how the Death Note works in an adaptation. Each of the games gives a spiel on it because it's literally the set up for the reason why court cases happen the way they do in universe.
"Why is the judge asking questions"
trust me, man, don't mention it, it's the best thing ever, or else
Manfred will own the court and Franziska will whip the hell out of everyone.
And Godot will toss mugs with hot coffee
@@snowblizzard7623 and let's not even get to the other prosecutors there's a whole list
@@UziMan-Science-Mathok
Objection, the legal system in Ace Attorney does not operate under the law that states a defendant is innocent until proven guilty. Rather than the defense attorney needing to prove reasonable doubt, the prosecutor simply needs to cast reasonable suspicion.
*TAKE THAT!*
Order! Order in the court!
or as they say in a different franchise...
*_SORE WA CHIGAU YO!_*
@Noah Hastings NANI?!?!
øv3r_ mïdñïght
my danganronpa soul loves you tbh
"you'd never wear a t-shirt and crazy hair to court"
Phoenix: Watch this.
*Cross examines a parrot and an Orca*
Tell md what case is the dolphin
@@Swellowing the DLC case in Dual Destines and it’s the 5th game excluding spin-offs
@@Swellowing she’s actually an orca
still an oversize murder dolphin.
* an orca
"You wouldn't want to be defending someone you know, in case you could be a witness" OH BOY
I feel like Phoenix at this point has defended pretty much everyone he knows, including himself.
@@Felixr2 Representing oneself is allowed, even without a law degree. But yes, many of the cases involve Nick representing a defendant he knows or it's a crime he was a direct witness to, which is a big no-no
atleast phoenix only saw the victim after they were murdered, Apollo had a man die on his lap... soooooooooo
@@jesseanimatess "Never goin' back to that strip club again..."
On the one hand, I love Phoenix Wright. On the other hand, I am fully aware that the Japanese criminal justice system is basically going to come across as Martian law to an American attorney. Let's see where it goes.
Martian?!
@@britishaceattorney yes. The law on Mars is quite wacky.
@@Cenentury0941 Something seems out of place here
I like your comment SpectralTime
The way the game works is even more bizarre from a legal perspective. There are some cases where at a certain point you have proven the innocence of your client, going way beyond a reasonable doubt, but then the judge is basically like "well...then who did it? Guilty!"
LMAO so true hermano!
In another you prove the "innocence" of a guilty client, and have a witness arrested more or less for colluding with said client.
Trust me.. judges in japan usually do this. High guilty cases are in japan too.
That's because it ACTUALLY works like that in Japan, where the games are made.
Like the case with will powers where you could prove that he was druged and thus slept through the whole murder but edgeworth was like " dur dee dur that doesnt prove the people in the trailer were the killer" while in my mind "obviously it doesnt but it does prove that he didnt do it and thus wont be liable for the murder. My job is to prove he didnt do it not find the one who did it"
Objection!
The anime does skip some key parts of the cases, in the game you actually do talk to your client before the trial. Also each case in-game takes place within 3 days cause in-game it used to take too long to get to each case and finish it so it was shortened to 3 days so that's the main reason the cases seem so rushed and unrealistic in the anime while making perfect sense in the game.
I'm pretty sure Phoenix doesn't talk to Larry beforehand i the game either.
Nathaniel DarDar you’re right. I played it a few months ago and he didn’t
He does talk to the buttz before the trial.... buuuuuut he just keeps crying about wanting to die
Nathaniel DarDar he doesish
Not to mention the whole point of the series is how corrupt and unfair the system is to defendants. Phoenix is looking to help make it fair for them, hence why he (usually) only helps innocent people.
Ho boy, this is only the tip of the ice berg. Cross examined animals, the ku rain trial, having only a drone to testify, von karma and whips, and of course edgeworth famous line “that autopsy report is outdated”
Austin In America, I suspect Von Karma would be arrested for something very fast. This guy’s going to have a field day with that.
Khura'in*
But how can an autopsy report be outdated, usually when autopsies are done it needs to be recent.
edgeworth changing every autopsy report when you finally got the contradiction
Captain Lagbeard OBJECTION! You’re feeling happy here when you are supposed to be sad! This man is obviously lying!
6:58 in the game he actually does, Larry goes on a huge story about how he doesn’t care if he gets the death penalty because he wants to be with his love
OBJECTION!
The only reason everyone wears the same clothes is because it's an anime!
Actually, it’s a holdover from the memory limitations of the GBA.
The first three were previously Japan-only GBA releases (which is why Grossberg is barely animated). That’s why Case 1-5 goes overboard with the animation: it’s DS-original.
@Sean Flores ikarikid is right, the first game was released in 2001 for the gba in Japan only
@Sean Flores If you waste our time anymore Sean Flores i'm going to have to hold you in contempt of court. DO I make myself clear?
@Sean Flores Apology sustained.
Objection!!
The anime really doesnt do the original case justice. If you can watch a playthrough of the game and you'll see how much was actually missing
It does skip over some details, but as a 22 minutes summary of the first case, it does a good job.
SHIROSAKI_21 agree with U.
Hold it!!
it would take around 40 minutes to complete the first trial, which means that since he's watching the anime he simply wouldn't have enough time to do so.
I disagree for this specific episode. It does the first case justice, but it's the others that it sorta botches in the details.
Not this case, I would argue to have him review the Next case to give an official review since that brings in evidence documentation, autopsy reports, and witness statements
Wait until he sees Phoenix being the attorney and the defendant
Ah yes the ending sequence of Case 2.
You can defend yourself in court though. It’s not a good idea cause you don’t have access to the same materials, so it’s usually dumb luck if you win
@@SerrifinWhich is how Phoenix usually wins his cases including case 2 luck lots and lots of dumb luck, along with a good amount of bluffing and either Maya, or Pearl channeling Mia but mostly Phoenix's victories in court are due to sheer dumb luck.
@@derrickhaggard which is sometimes annoying as you CAN prove it without luck
Paul Atishon-Wimperson says hi.