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This was what was so good about this show, sometimes the evidence was inconclusive, and sometimes you could just flat disagree with the jury's verdict.
Odysseus Rex wasn’t even the jury’s fault in this case. The jury made the right call with the evidence given. The killer was who we thought. They just didn’t have any way to prove it was a hired killing and by the time they even had a clue it was a possibility the charges were dropped.
I really love the writing at the end of this one: the new evidence is enough to cast further doubt on the alleged innocence, yet still not enough to meet the burden of proof required of the state. I think most shows would have gone over the top there, bit L&O really did it right, just an absolute classic.
My favorite lineup. Logan, Briscoe, McCoy and Kincaid. Dobson was such a creep. He reappears later after he killed wife #2, but by then Logan was in Staten Island.
I don't know. I like Logan but I think Briscoe and Green were the best detective duo on the show. Probably second best in the whole franchise behind Stabler and Benson on SVU.
@@skael1258 if you watched the episode they tried everything they could have. the evidence linking dobson to the shooter turned up after the trial and due to double jeopardy they couldn't do another attempt.
Of all the 20 years of L&O, Logan & Briscoe were my all-time favorite detective duo, and Stone & Robinette and McCoy & Kincaid were my favorite legal duos.
I agree. I don't know why but many people seem to sleep on Stone & Robinette. They started it all. If they were not great, the others would not have made it.
Yep, sounds about right. Stone is just incredible, I loved all of his performances. You could tell he worked very hard to remain authentic to the real profession.
@@LordBairoth The early seasons of law and order weren't highly seeded on any of the public trackers lately. Lot of fuckery with shutdowns happening recently too. I'm sure it's out there but my time is more valuable than my money at this stage of my life.
The attorneys sometimes make provacative statements knowing the judges will dis-allow them, and knowing the bell can't be un-rung. The seed is planted for the jurors, it's an old trick, and both sides do it. It's like showing someone a photo then telling them forget you ever saw this
Technically the jury does have to explain their verdict, no? Not to the public but at least recorded right? If you reference something off limits then surely the judge and attorneys would send it back to deliberation.
@@zachkh Jury deliberations are confidential. While jurors do sometimes talk about it afterwards they aren't required to justify their verdict (which is why jury nullification is a thing).
Dobson got away scott free with the murder of Wife #1... then he flew too close to the sun and killed Wife #2 which had a much less... favorable... outcome.
@@kevaninthe4135 He was the scary doorman on Seinfeld. Also, Jerry Seinfeld's best friend. When the were looking for a bald actor for the role of George Costanza, everyone including Jason Alexander, thought Larry Miller would get the part. But Jerry and Larry David were such professionals, they cast Jason, because they thought he was better for the part.
These videos are awesome, in no small part because they are remastered and of such high quality. I've been watching Law & Order since the first season, and I thoroughly enjoy your UA-cam channel.
If it makes anybody feel better there's a later episode where a woman gets murdered and it's discovered that she was Dobsons second wife. Exactly the same as his first wife except this time he's already got a new fiance lined up while they're in court. McCoy tells her "how long do you think you'll last before you're his third dead wife?" and she helps him get evidence that finally convicts the guy.
That "or innocent" really hits when you watch how quickly McCoy laid out the thread from the defendant to the killer. Just once single connection had him convinced that they let a guilty man walk
I love the body language the guy was leaning forward when the prosecution was asking questions, but the moment his lawyer stood up, he sat back up as if he was sitting on a throne.
I love this show! Probably watched every episode at least 5x. Man, I remember when they used to have marathons on tv and I would be glued to the couch. Btw I just found out about a podcast called These Are Their Stories. Great stuff!
Man, I love this show! First time I ever saw it I was 12, traveling across the country moving from the East coast to the West. I saw it in the motel room with my twin brother, and in the just the opening minutes, I was HOOKED. But... what kept me as a fan forever was about halfway through the episode, when the whole show's focus switched over to the prosecutors! I'd never seen a show broken down like that; I grew up on Perry Mason reruns and Matlock, or cop shows. This was the first show I saw that did both, and did them both amazingly well! And I have to admit... I loved this show because they didn't always win at the end; sometimes you were just left wondering, like this.
I like every one of Jack McCoy’s neckties: mainly the striped ones, and the knitted burgundy or dark red one. The red tie with the navy blue and yellow stripes is my most favorite.
The actor who played ADA Robinette had ONE look, always Pensive about EVERYTHING🤣. I only got to see his range as an actor while he was on BOSCH. Btw anyone else remember Det. Max Greevy? Also loved Paul Sorvino on the show👍🏽
This was a great episode. Especially at the end when they uncover the connection between the victim’s husband and the killer. The worst part is that the husband cannot be retried because the charges against him was dismissed mid-trial. Double jeopardy is attached.
The problem isn't Double Jeopardy, the problem is that he just doesn't have enough evidence to convict. Double Jeopardy only protects you from being convicted of the same crime twice, you can still be tried for the same crime after being found innocent. He just can't prove that the Husband had truly conspired to kill his wife off hear say and the killer having met him once.
@@TheKillbot555 "you can still be tried for the same crime after being found innocent." No, you can't, That is literally the definition of double jeopardy. You can however if the charges were dismissed.
The first time I ever heard "Alphabet City" I seriously thought it was slang for "any town USA" or of an unidentified origin lol... Then you go there and you're like, "holy sh@t it's a REAL place?!" And then you feel stupid.
Larry Miller as Michael Dobson, who happened to have the best line in this episode: "You know something? I don't need you to tell me I'm a sonuvabitch. Been one for a long time. I like it. The hours are good and there's no heavy lifting. But I happen to be a sonuvabitch whose wife was shot by some other sonuvabitch."
Coma was the second episode in McCoy's very first season (Season 5). I love that it ends with ambiguity as to whether or not Dobson actually did it-though in Encore a season later, that ambiguity flies right out the window and Dobson's revealed as the serial killer he is. I also love that while he didn't play Dobson again after that, Larry Miller did return as himself in the Season 13 finale Smoke.
Like the prosecutor said, Could retrial, but no way for conviction. Just because both men appear at night club together doesn't mean hired guy to kill his wife. Where's solid evidence?
This is one of my favourite episodes, it puts reality back into the show, also DA cannot recommend sisters relative to go ahead with operation because he is not medical expert
They were too afraid to say anything. He wasnt even supposed to be in that episode, he just wandered on set coked up and everyone just went along with it.
Only thing about the early episodes is often they aren’t wearing gloves to keep their prints off of things. Overall it’s really good but just little things like that.
IN the British police series, the Sweeney (aka the Flying Squad), they hunt down two Australian armed robbers, only in the end to find out they had already left England. Very unusual ending. But it resolved itself in a later episode, when the two, to the astonishment of the police, reappeared in England. Again, they were hunted down, and this time they were caught. lol
Ah, if only that video had been found before the charges were dismissed...had this episode been done today, they might have called/texted one of the lawyers right before and maybe stopped the dismissal.
Netflix needs to snatch these series and I will be a very loyal customer. This show is a gold mine.
ER she come back this year on TV 100,000 likes the song to come back this year on USA and Netflix 100 more episodes
they should be at CSI this year Bring it back this year on USA and Netflix 100,000 likes on UA-camPG
Facts
Not going to happen as it belongs to the Peacock network but only on the paid account
Steaming became TV in that you have to subscribe to 20 different things in order to get access to what you want.
Amen!
This was what was so good about this show, sometimes the evidence was inconclusive, and sometimes you could just flat disagree with the jury's verdict.
Odysseus Rex wasn’t even the jury’s fault in this case. The jury made the right call with the evidence given. The killer was who we thought. They just didn’t have any way to prove it was a hired killing and by the time they even had a clue it was a possibility the charges were dropped.
@@georgehoyle8797 Agreed.
That one of the great things about Law & Order: The "Good Guys" don't _always_ *Win*
@@ReadmanJ Indeed, sometimes the good guys were even wrong.
@@odysseusrex5908 True indeed.
I really love the writing at the end of this one: the new evidence is enough to cast further doubt on the alleged innocence, yet still not enough to meet the burden of proof required of the state. I think most shows would have gone over the top there, bit L&O really did it right, just an absolute classic.
My favorite lineup. Logan, Briscoe, McCoy and Kincaid. Dobson was such a creep. He reappears later after he killed wife #2, but by then Logan was in Staten Island.
That's so sad. The lawyers should be ashamed for letting him go so easily.
I don't know. I like Logan but I think Briscoe and Green were the best detective duo on the show. Probably second best in the whole franchise behind Stabler and Benson on SVU.
Dan Gurney For me Briscoe and Green were second to Briscoe and Logan, even though I liked Green very much.
@@skael1258 if you watched the episode they tried everything they could have. the evidence linking dobson to the shooter turned up after the trial and due to double jeopardy they couldn't do another attempt.
Detective Rey Curtis came in, and that time, the cops and prosecutors double checked everything and nailed dobson to the wall.
Of all the 20 years of L&O, Logan & Briscoe were my all-time favorite detective duo, and Stone & Robinette and McCoy & Kincaid were my favorite legal duos.
Yeah, Logan and Briscoe were the best cop duo and it's a damn shame that Jerry Orbach died from prostate-cancer because he was dedicated to the role.
I totally agree, a fantastic cast and chemistry amongst them.
Briscoe was good no matter who!! He has the best lines
I agree. I don't know why but many people seem to sleep on Stone & Robinette. They started it all. If they were not great, the others would not have made it.
Yep, sounds about right. Stone is just incredible, I loved all of his performances. You could tell he worked very hard to remain authentic to the real profession.
He gets found not guilty in this episode but found guilty in a later episodes. He was so good they brought him back. Great character.
I knew he looked familiar!
The sequel was better that the original. It's one of my favorites.
@@jeffreymeehan3116 What episode is the sequel?
@@seriascannain6675 6.15, "Encore"
I hated that they brought him back to put him away. It would have been so much better if he simply "got away with it", as some people do in real life.
I would love to see these earlier series in full they were brilliant.
jean ross, you can buy them on ITunes
@@gawainethefirst You can buy them on UA-cam.
@@BlueButtonFly You can pirate them like a real pirate
@@LordBairoth The early seasons of law and order weren't highly seeded on any of the public trackers lately. Lot of fuckery with shutdowns happening recently too. I'm sure it's out there but my time is more valuable than my money at this stage of my life.
They are on WETV and Sundance!
One of my favorite crime shows. I can watch Law and Order all day.
Me too 😁
Me three
always loved the L&O marathons during holidays
Love how they say "jury will disregard" but as someone who's never been on jury duty... Do they ever "disregard"?
The attorneys sometimes make provacative statements knowing the judges will dis-allow them, and knowing the bell can't be un-rung. The seed is planted for the jurors, it's an old trick, and both sides do it. It's like showing someone a photo then telling them forget you ever saw this
As someone who has been on a jury... you try, but no. It's like trying to unsee naked grandma.
No.
Technically the jury does have to explain their verdict, no? Not to the public but at least recorded right? If you reference something off limits then surely the judge and attorneys would send it back to deliberation.
@@zachkh Jury deliberations are confidential. While jurors do sometimes talk about it afterwards they aren't required to justify their verdict (which is why jury nullification is a thing).
Dobson got away scott free with the murder of Wife #1... then he flew too close to the sun and killed Wife #2 which had a much less... favorable... outcome.
"Women"... :p
Halo I love you so much are my boyfriend how such very pretty good looking forward two time push
That's what was so good about this show, sometimes, not always, just often enough, there was genuinely reasonable doubt.
"Ya gotta see this." That guy is one hell of a ventriloquist.
The series need to come back to streaming services like Netflix, Amazon Prime, Hulu
Peacock!
I checked they don’t have the older seasons up.
@@hedgeman they only have a few seasons, so worthless
Netflix needs to snatch these series and l will be a very loyal customer. This show is a gold mine.
I have been getting the DVDs.
7:17 “McCoy you have to see this” as he hands him the tape. cuts back to him with the tape playing it 😂
This show was brilliant in it's day, and even today
The ending was such a punch in the gut... brilliant
Larry Miller...another comedic genius that holds more than his own in this dramatic presentation!
Wasn't he in Pretty Woman? The sales clerk?
@@pland3845yes
@@pland3845yea he was in Pretty Woman and The Nutty Professor
This was a great episode. Had enough to wonder if he was guilty or not.
Next season they get Dobson though.
This actor almost always plays someone sleazy, scetchy, or creepy
@@shevahauser1780 Larry Miller. He's great in those roles.
in a later episode they found evidence that proved he did it and convicted him on a separate murder charger
How they got him in the end was awesome. It was a nail biter till the end. Fantastic episode! (S06 - Ep15 "Encore")
@@kevaninthe4135 He was the scary doorman on Seinfeld. Also, Jerry Seinfeld's best friend. When the were looking for a bald actor for the role of George Costanza, everyone including Jason Alexander, thought Larry Miller would get the part. But Jerry and Larry David were such professionals, they cast Jason, because they thought he was better for the part.
These videos are awesome, in no small part because they are remastered and of such high quality. I've been watching Law & Order since the first season, and I thoroughly enjoy your UA-cam channel.
If it makes anybody feel better there's a later episode where a woman gets murdered and it's discovered that she was Dobsons second wife. Exactly the same as his first wife except this time he's already got a new fiance lined up while they're in court. McCoy tells her "how long do you think you'll last before you're his third dead wife?" and she helps him get evidence that finally convicts the guy.
That "or innocent" really hits when you watch how quickly McCoy laid out the thread from the defendant to the killer. Just once single connection had him convinced that they let a guilty man walk
I love the body language the guy was leaning forward when the prosecution was asking questions, but the moment his lawyer stood up, he sat back up as if he was sitting on a throne.
I love this show! Probably watched every episode at least 5x. Man, I remember when they used to have marathons on tv and I would be glued to the couch. Btw I just found out about a podcast called These Are Their Stories. Great stuff!
Still waiting on Netflix and/or Hulu to gift us with ALL seasons of the original Law and Order.
Man, I love this show! First time I ever saw it I was 12, traveling across the country moving from the East coast to the West. I saw it in the motel room with my twin brother, and in the just the opening minutes, I was HOOKED. But... what kept me as a fan forever was about halfway through the episode, when the whole show's focus switched over to the prosecutors! I'd never seen a show broken down like that; I grew up on Perry Mason reruns and Matlock, or cop shows. This was the first show I saw that did both, and did them both amazingly well! And I have to admit... I loved this show because they didn't always win at the end; sometimes you were just left wondering, like this.
Wonderful story....
I love these two, one of best duo:
Logan n Briscoe
McCoy n Kinkaid
Robinette n stone
Kincaid*
I like every one of Jack McCoy’s neckties: mainly the striped ones, and the knitted burgundy or dark red one. The red tie with the navy blue and yellow stripes is my most favorite.
The actor who played ADA Robinette had ONE look, always Pensive about EVERYTHING🤣. I only got to see his range as an actor while he was on BOSCH. Btw anyone else remember Det. Max Greevy? Also loved Paul Sorvino on the show👍🏽
Yes the seasons 1-3, good stuff
Serreta and Logan were underrated
Possibly the #1 episode of all 400+ L&O stories. Magnificent writing, directing and acting. A Gold / Platinum episode.
This was a great episode. Especially at the end when they uncover the connection between the victim’s husband and the killer.
The worst part is that the husband cannot be retried because the charges against him was dismissed mid-trial. Double jeopardy is attached.
The problem isn't Double Jeopardy, the problem is that he just doesn't have enough evidence to convict. Double Jeopardy only protects you from being convicted of the same crime twice, you can still be tried for the same crime after being found innocent. He just can't prove that the Husband had truly conspired to kill his wife off hear say and the killer having met him once.
@@TheKillbot555 "you can still be tried for the same crime after being found innocent." No, you can't, That is literally the definition of double jeopardy. You can however if the charges were dismissed.
It’s the DA fault for going in gun-ho they should’ve got their ducks in a row and played the long game.
@Owen - depends on if the charges were dismissed with our without prejudice. Without prejudice means they can be refiled. With prejudice, they cannot.
@Anonymous Haha When was he found innocent? The charges were dropped. Period. The jury never reached a verdict.
The jury should know right off the bat that Larry Miller is guilty because he never plays a good or innocent guy on TV or in the movies🤣🤣🤣🤣
I saw the defendant and immediately said, Dobson. I remember this one
The music in the last 40 seconds or so always haunted me.
I doubt the 3rd choice is accurate. Dobson almost certainly hired the killer. They just couldn't prove it. Sigh! A shame.
They got him next season though. He pressed his luck.
@@kevaninthe4135 what episode was that called?
@@NightBrEedzZ123 "Encore"
@@LSSYLondon thank you
At least Max Keeble took this guy to the cleaners
I need more clips of Jack McCoy
The first time I ever heard "Alphabet City" I seriously thought it was slang for "any town USA" or of an unidentified origin lol... Then you go there and you're like, "holy sh@t it's a REAL place?!" And then you feel stupid.
Well, you do.
There's a shock.
Larry Miller as Michael Dobson, who happened to have the best line in this episode: "You know something? I don't need you to tell me I'm a sonuvabitch. Been one for a long time. I like it. The hours are good and there's no heavy lifting. But I happen to be a sonuvabitch whose wife was shot by some other sonuvabitch."
Even from the early days McCoy knew how to get what he wanted. Also swear I’ve seen that defendant in SVU
They do that some times they get actors they’ve cast before for other roles
He played 2 different characters in L&O, 2 as this one Michael Dobson, and once as Larry Miller (which is his actual name in real life)
@@VC-Toronto oh, yes! I remember that episode!!
Love all of these shows was close to auditioning once
I've always adored Law & Order, especially the earlier series.
But that ADR @7:18 hahahaha damn.
The best crime drama bar none
Larry Miller was so good in L&O. And he's in two episodes!
Larry Miller - he can do anything!
"Hope Hallmark makes the right card". - Lennie Briscoe
"jury will disregard"
sure, we'll all just delete it from our files lol
Coma was the second episode in McCoy's very first season (Season 5). I love that it ends with ambiguity as to whether or not Dobson actually did it-though in Encore a season later, that ambiguity flies right out the window and Dobson's revealed as the serial killer he is. I also love that while he didn't play Dobson again after that, Larry Miller did return as himself in the Season 13 finale Smoke.
I wish these were on prime video
Larry Miller was BRILLIANT on L&O...
The killer Dobson was also the doorman in the famous Seinfeld episode.
Yeah his name is Larry Miller. He's been in a lot of stuff.
Was also in a Wesley's snipes movie called passenger 57!
He was also in Pretty Woman.
He was the villain in The Nutty Professor!
This was one of the good ones. Also one of the few episodes with an unofficial part two.
He was a Real Bang Up Guy... Pillar of the Community!
I've seen these shows so many times that right after Adam said "Smart" I thought to myself "Lucky"
What I love about this episode is it's ambiguous ending. It's heavily implied but never proven that Dobson killed his wife.
Smart, Lucky Innocent?
I agree that was brilliant.
It got blunted a bit when, in a later season, the character came back when his second wife was murdered.
Like the prosecutor said, Could retrial, but no way for conviction. Just because both men appear at night club together doesn't mean hired guy to kill his wife. Where's solid evidence?
“- Smart.
- Lucky.
- Or innocent.”
Last words of the episode. Writing like this is what made the old classic.
This is horrific. They let him go too easily cuz they THOUGHT be might be innocent for a second.
No, they let him go because they had zero evidence against him.
@@alcoholandfun243exactly
“Ah, but a very pretty suspect. Makes all the other suspects go, ‘Whaaaaaaaaah’” -Mr Dobson aka Pablo
This is one of my favourite episodes, it puts reality back into the show, also DA cannot recommend sisters relative to go ahead with operation because he is not medical expert
Larry Miller was great as dobson a slimy snarky sob with no redeeming qualities it was really satisfying when he was finally caught
This ending wouldn't let me sleep, and follow up Episode, flipped me out.
"Even if I could retrial him, I couldn't convict him." I'm sorry - I didn't get that! Why can't he re-trial him??
Evidence wasn't solid enough. Could fall under sheer coincidence.
double jeopardy, you cant try someone for the same crime twice.
This was one of the great episodes of LAO!!!!
I would like to see these early Law & Order they are the best
its sad seeing these older clips when jack just retired this week
😂😂😂😂 funny going through that filthy apartment with no gloves.
It seems odd they are just wandering gloveless around that apartment.
It's the 90s. How common was forensic evidence back then?
Gotta say, that defense was actually really good.
Takes a true genius to get away with a perfect crime.
Someone make shows like this , the practice, and other classics available on Amazon prime video or something
Good taste! I love this one and the practice, specially the season with Alan Shore
Cops touching weapons without gloves?!
Larry Miller best villain in law and order
At :05 you can see that the wall behind the judge is a part of a TV show studio set.
This is such an old episode. Sam Waterston looks so young.
This is back when they had to write and act. Now everything just blows up every 10 minutes.
This is the first time I’ve ever heard seen Larry Miller. Never knew he was a comic.
Same thing with Robert Klein.
Both so convincing.
Sam fucking Waters... brilliant actor.
Double jeopardy they shouldn't be able to charge him
Double jeopardy is only if you’re found innocent, not if the case is dismissed isn’t it?
Wait, Robin Williams is cannon in a universe he guest starred in?! Didn't anyone in the SVU recognize him?
They were too afraid to say anything. He wasnt even supposed to be in that episode, he just wandered on set coked up and everyone just went along with it.
H.P Lovecat For reals?
@@Optimaloptimus It was a joke
Only thing about the early episodes is often they aren’t wearing gloves to keep their prints off of things. Overall it’s really good but just little things like that.
Wasn’t this lady on another episode as a therapist that used an unconventional therapy treatment that ended up killing a girl
love it when mccoy loses
The man is found guilt in a later episode. McCoy rarely loses 😂
Adam Schiff reminds me of a modern Schopenhauer.
The Actor who played Dobson did the voice of the Pointy Haired Boss in Dilbert.
You are right!
Love that show too.
He also played Pablo, the stylist, in The Princess Diaries movies
Add this one to the Big Mouth Billy Bass hanging on McCoy's office wall: "the one that got away".
Right, show the entire episode please
IN the British police series, the Sweeney (aka the Flying Squad), they hunt down two Australian armed robbers, only in the end to find out they had already left England. Very unusual ending. But it resolved itself in a later episode, when the two, to the astonishment of the police, reappeared in England. Again, they were hunted down, and this time they were caught. lol
Convenient last minute evidence that exonerates such a smug defendant is always a big red flag
"Jury will disregard"
oh right, let me just quickly forget what I just heard and completely ignore it when deliberating for a veredict.
"Smart. Lucky. Or innocent."
The ending was sweet
Kinda hill street blues ish
Now you convict him on hiring a killer rather than being killer different charges
Larry Miller is one of those actors you’ve seen a million times, but you can never remember what you’ve seen him in.
Ah, if only that video had been found before the charges were dismissed...had this episode been done today, they might have called/texted one of the lawyers right before and maybe stopped the dismissal.
Debra Monk does a great job here. AKA Andy Sipowitz’s first wife.
She never misses.
Anyone who wants to watch early season of L&O go to 123movies and search for law and order. All 20+ seasons are on there
There were only 20 seasons of the original law and order, svu is 20+
"Hello Josef"😆😂🤣😆😂🤣😆😂🤣😆😂🤣😆😂
Two over the air stations run it here where I live in OK.
Lucky!!
I always say that if your sure enough that this person killed a loved one then you should hire a hitman to seek justice for them when the law fails
That guy was one Law and Order murderer who would have been good enough for an old Columbo episode.
What I love about this show is it stimulate the mind. Unlike Kardashian garbage.