★ *REVIEWING THE 14F: **bit.ly/36hsHBf* ★ *QOTD: Who currently makes the best tower speaker under $2000/pair?* ★ *INFO/LINKS ARE IN THE DESCRIPTION UNDER THE VIDEO* ★ *RULES: Please be respectful. NO OUTSIDE LINKS, URLs, email addresses, etc.*
@@zachariahadams Kinda like reading about new Polk speakers in another online publication this morning and saying to myself, really Sound United? We still doing this BS?
What a day. I just came back from my workshop, building my first DIY hifi loudspeakers, after being sick for a few days. And now a new video from you guys!!!
For even under $1,000, I'm really happy with the Jamo C 97 II that you recommended. The new WFH paradigm meant that I had to incorporate a home office in what was previously my relaxation space. I had to re-arrange the furniture and now the speakers are less than 5 feet away from my chair and the speakers are then about 7 feet away from each other and aren't positioned against a wall (it's a weird space I'm working with). Even with the weird layout, the Jamo's completely disappear and the sound fills my loft wonderfully. Vocals sound as though they're much further back in the loft than right in my face (even though the speakers are within spitting distance) and drums typically manage to come from behind the vocals. "Bubbles" by Yosi Horikawa is just amazing to listen to on the Jamo speakers.
I’m 63 and love your presentations. What speaker today is most like the large Advents I had as a kid. I used a pair on each side run in series with the top one upside down so the tweeters were together. Thanks. Dave
I was in the market a couple of months ago. I was all set to get the Klipsch 8000F towers when I headed to my local audio dealer. I asked the salesman what else I should consider for the budget. He had me listen to the Paradigm Monitor SE 8000f. In the store I had a hard time choosing between the 2. I purchased BOTH and did a side by side in MY HOUSE. I kept the Paradigm and returned the Klipsch. I felt they had more from top to bottom and felt like the mid was too thin with the Klipsch.
Hi, if I hadn't gone to the UA-camr news site, I wouldn't have known that your channel provides reviews on speakers, and I can only say that you are great, you've delivered and justified and professionally done and you match it, Jennifer Wright, if I only lived in the US hopefully soon, but right now I am in the Philippines, and now that I got your channel subscribed, I wouldn't miss all your reviews of terrific speakers of which I pray that they will be available here in the Philippines. anyways, catch up with you on your next review. God bless you.
We just pulled a pair of *brand new speakers* out of the box that sound SO GOOD!! A quick positioning closer to the wall and dude! So good. All this nonsense about needing 100+ hours of break in...I just can't get over the fact that some people really believe this and are willing to WAIT for 100s of hours before they can start enjoying something. Life is too short for that!! Stop making excuses for stuff that you just really don't like (not to mention succumbing to marketing manipulation). It's okay to put it back in the box and try something else. Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.
The capacitors in a speaker's crossover will break in as they 'form' - that's legitimately a thing, to what extent is debatable:) Having said that Dynaudio speakers are the only speakers where I ever experienced a pronounced difference in performance after going through an extended break-in period.
@@decoryder it is one thing to wait a bit for a woofer's surround to become more pliable or the "spider" but to wait for a freaking capacitor to somehow change its electrical value (when it shouldn't ever if it isn't an old style electrolytic one) sounds mostly like snake oil. Sorry, but I work with many electrical engineers and they say they design circuits using components specified to certain values and they DON'T expect those values to change much over the lifetime of the device if it isn't abused electrically or environmentally. Capacitors are simple devices. They build up and hold a charge then release it when asked. If they are using such cheap capacitors that they do change their values and they are relying on that to make their speakers sound better after 400 hours of "burn in", then it begs the question of how much more they might change in value over time? If I'm going to drop $1000 on a speaker it better play the same over at least 10 years. I'm not a "flat Earther", but I'm not buying it...literally....
@@decoryder yes they are...I've never heard any Dynaudio speakers and if they take over 200 hours to "break in" I never will consider such a poorly designed product...Even if they DO require such a thing, the onus on breaking them in (and those energy costs and time) should be on the manufacturer, not the consumer). But I will watch Kristi's and Andrew's review for fun....and with interest...
I'm actually really interested in the F34 version. If the midrange and top end is actually really impressive, I'd be willing to actually brace the cabinet and put the work into fixing. Do you think they are good enough to warrant that extra effort?
@@walrusgumbootable you will not be disappointed, Friend! I have the klipsch 12" sub, center channel, and the 600m for my rears. Thinking of adding atmos speakers after I stop travel nursing. Right now I take Klipch Sixes to each travel assignment
@@OscarSanchez-tk3hx imaging is solid, good midrange, excellent bass response for broad range of music especially rock, hip hop, and electronic. For home theater it's an amazing performer, great value for the money.
I had the elipson prestige facet 6b bt, their active speakers, and i felt exactly what you said, one moment they sound really really good and other moment they sound just horrible. So your review is just spot on! you know what you are talking about that's for sure. After a year i just sold them, they just annoyed me to much.
Andrew knows how to review a product, great details covered with brilliant description of sound. It’s all about his experience of the equipment rather than all about him as a person.
Can't wait to hear what you think of the Heritage XLS 15. It's one of a few speakers on my list to consider. Also heard KLH are bringing out a new, larger "Model 7". Hope this trend of modern innovation, power efficiency & sound quality with 70s vintage good looks continues.
Cabinet resonances is the downside of 95% of tower speakers. So, it is not surprising if some obvious coloration appeared in these 'budget' line. Always a delight to listen to Kristy and you giving an honest review! Maybe Danny at GR research could fix Elipson's problem, that would be interesting! Bye!
Some parts savage... but done in a tasteful way. BTW, Andrew love the Focal Chora 806, really airy, clear separation and sufficient bass. The vocals is the star as you have rightfully stated. Thank YOU.
You are blessed to have a wife, partner, that someone in you're life who is your life's love, ( you get my drift) to also be involved in audio! I haven't met anyone who's an Audiophile, that has that special bond. I mean No One! I think it's fantastic!!
To be honest, I was taking a look at the Airmotiv t1+ as my very first tower speakers to start setting up a home theater, but I'm most likely buying now a receiver for around $500 and wait for black Friday deals to see what I can get then
@@HoracioPz I've had the T1+'s at my house for a month. They are a steal at 700 and amazing with home theater. They sound huge and the highs are good. For me, musically the bass is a bit bloated and so I chose something else. But if your budget is 700 and you are looking more for home theater than music, these can't be beat. I use the B1+'s and E2+'s for my surrounds to great effect as well.
Yup, bang for my buck… Klipsch is still my wheelhouse. Found a pair of 820f towers around Christmas last year at an amazing discount and wow. Its not their higher end line, but still really delivers what i want. My RF7 IIIs are awesome as well. But i was really surprised at the value i got with the 820Fs.
I wish I listened to enough speakers and amps to understand everything you say. Wish someone would do a video where they explain every word they use to describe audio and edit the audio to sound like what they are describing.
I own the Klipsch RP-8000F's in my theater system and love them for both movies and 2-channel. Caught them on sale and paid just under $1000 for the pair. They are hard to beat at a regular price but almost impossible to beat at the price I paid. I run a vintage pair of Klipsch Epic CF-2's (circa '94 to '96) in my 2-channel room that I really enjoy, and Vandersteen Model 1's in my work office. The Vandy's are excellent if you can get past the look.
Another great review. You guys have any tower speaker reviews with 8" or larger drivers on the horizon? A tower speaker shouldn't need a sub, but it seems like most do these days. Elysian 4 looks promising. Maybe Kanta 3. I bet Kristi would second a vote for some Sonus Faber Amati towers :-)
@@KristiWright And i wish they weren't 30k. Just stumbled on the Elipson Prestige 34F with it's 10" drivers and promising response range. Wonder if they would have the same weird crossover issues you guys saw with the 14F.
Outstandingly honest review, it's nice to hear and see that if something doesn't meet your standards or personal preferences - you spell it out without being offensive. Best audio channel on the net. I am just about to pull the trigger on new towers - either the Klipsch RP-8000F or the Paradigm Monitor SE 8000F. Being Canadian, I am leaning the Paradigm direction (built locally) however many reviews (including yours) speak very highly of the Klipsch. And from a price point - I can get either for about $1700CDN a pair...($1350 USD?) Hard to find reviews on the Paradigm's however they have only been to market for 8 months. Opinions? Cheers....
See a lot of french speakers that you're reviewing recently. Love it ! This one was savage - really great adjectives, love the articulation on this video. I can watch this just for your stunning adjectives. Hats off! And.. if your voice goes any deeper, it's going to be reference audio for subwoofers ;) I've heard a bunch recently (from friends) about this rather unknown brand - Davis Acoustics. Maybe review one of their floorstanders - say Vinci ? Would really love to hear a review of one of those. Just a request, in case you can accommodate it. It looks quite poppy with its yellow Kevlar mid-range drivers.
I've got the Klipsch rp8000f and I also love the mid and high on it while listening to acoustic music. Might have something to do with my vintage technics amp. For the price simply great speakers that can do it all.
I love my PSB Imagine X2T towers. Not the best cabinet finish quality, but very solid and great sounding. My dad has a pair of Klipsch R820F towers that are more dynamic and powerful, but pairing my PSB towers with a sub, I will take them hands down over the Klipsch. (both being driven by NAD amplifiers)
So the cabinet is the Achille's heel of the 14F. Please (if you can) review their HERITAGE XLS 15 and see how they compare to the JBL and the KLH Model 5. Thanks for the honest review.
Best tower pair under 2000.00.... Def Tech BP10s. Oldies, but goodies. All around for sonic believability. Identically matched units do work. They make the walls disappear over the full spectrum. Thanks Andrew and Kristi.. very entertaining and informative review... Having potential "is" exciting, but doesn't t cut it , does it? We want that full spectrum package. Cheers
NEVER a good time to ditch Klipsch...but I am biased I suppose, I prefer a horn loaded speaker.And I heard a pair of Klipsch 600 bookshelf speakers recently and I was impressed. Recommended if you are shopping for a bookshelf speaker.
I have both the 8000 and the 600, the 600 are damn good for bookshelf speakers. I use the 600 for the rears, but used them for a week as the front stage to break them in, and I was very impressed with the sound quality
I have ELAC Debut Reference towers ($1200 a pair) as part of a 3.0 setup in my den. I’m not sure if these are the best under $2K but I really do like them. I also have B&W 603’s (not the anniversary series guys! 😂) in my stereo setup and really enjoy them too, especially with my records. Both are pretty neutral imo and let the music come out naturally. Hope this helps anyone in the tower market at $2K or less.
@@rosswarren436 I would say imaging is solid, but not incredible. That’s to be expected though for what you are paying. Since I have the matching center channel I can also enjoy them at low volume levels while still easily hearing dialogue. Not sure if that would still be the case in a two channel situation.
@@rjmoyer2 thanks for the info...I'm trying to find a "Goldilocks" speaker under $1000....great at lower volumes, dynamics, neutral sounding, with micro dynamics and a good sound stage...LOL...I don't think such an animal exists...But I keep watching reviews and trying....=and dreaming...
Great review, for the QOTD I heard a set of Monitor Audio Bronze 500's at a friends house that sounded pretty good, I also agree with you on the the Klipsch. Alot out there to choose from.
Fyne Audio Speakers ex Tannoy dudes from Scotland. Just bought pair of 502SP point soucre floor standers. Bass is awesome big sound and sensitive speakers at around 92DB have alot of models to choose from. I liked them more than the Canta 2's and am driving them with a Naim uniti Nova.
Klipsch rp8000fs with yamaha as801amp sounds amazing:) also for movies i use them with marantz sr8015. I don’t think anything come close in that price range to be honest.
Andrew is truly a master at filming. Watching this video playback just now, even I was like, well these look pretty good in video! Seriously, the number of times I question myself _after_ seeing Andrew's b-roll could help put a down payment on a new house. I just have to go back to my impressions while actually living with them and remind myself that I'm not crazy. 😂
Once Elipson was world famous for creating speakers without resonance and almost complete neutral sound, like the 'concrete' eggs, etc. Anyway, nice to see a review of Elipson, as I have nice memories re. the famous Elipson 1303 (Foster Tweeter). Apparently, it seems this one is far, far away from Elipsons initial goal ;)
Your review makes me think of some Wharfedale Towers I still have from earlier this century.... ooo. You just mentioned Wharfedale towers!!! Great minds... LOL
I'd like to hear you start making comparisons to the Fluance XL8F since you did a product video for them vs a review. A little insight to how you really feel about the XL8Fs.
The XL8F speakers are great, very easy to listen to for long periods of time. A bit bass heavy which makes them more full-bodied than a lot of other speakers. They need careful placement and a good amp with solid bass control. But they're an option, for sure.
Elipson is more known for their globe speakers which nowadays are named Planet. Otherwise they make entry hifi range products which compete more with brands like Jamo. The french have several big loudpeaker brands like Elipson or Davis Acoustique as entry level, Cabasse, Triangle and Focal as middle class to high end level and and high end with Jean-Marie Reynaud, Kelinac, Pierre Etienne Léon or Atohm and plenty of artisan brands like Pier Audio or Supravox. It is not an complete list there are really a lot of them
Towers speakers for two grand or under per pair. Hmmm, I would like to see review of the Polk R700 towers. Throw in some Paradigms, and maybe some Fluence towers. And just sir back and see if the Klipsch 8000's eat them for lunch,or maybe surprise you. Personally I'm really wondering if the new Polk R700's are going to put Polk back in the ring as a contender, in that price range. And let's not forget some Elac's. And they have to do double duty as well. Great video as usual, and keep up the great work.
For many people speakers need to play well at lower volumes as well as loud. Wonder if the new Polks are better in that regard than the ELACs? (Still offer some richness and dynamics)?
I always like testing my speakers with metal because it's difficult music to get right and I was told if the crossover is well made well any music you play should be wonderful
Best $2000 speakers? Klipsch RP 8000F. I bought mine early in 2021 for less than $1500 paired with an old Audio Research d100 separate and SB AE-9 with ESS SABRE-class 9038 DAC soundcard Pure magic with all kinds of music!
I'M LOOKING NOW WITHOUT SOUND BECAUSE IT'S LATE AT NIGHT HERE IN FRANCE 🇫🇷 ... ANYWAY, I HAVE SOME BOOKSHELF SPEAKERS FROM ELIPSON PLANET M AND THEY'RE AWAYSOME !!!! MY DREAM WOULD BE THEIR SPECIAL BS 50 TRIBUTE, INCREDIBLE EXPERIENCE!! ANYWAY, I LIKE VERY MUCH YOUR WEBSITE WICH IS VERY OBJECTIVE AND FROM VERY GOOD TASTE, CHRISTIE AND YOU! THANK YOU SO MUCH FROM NORTHERN FRANCE, FAR AWAY FROM US 🇺🇸, I DO MUCH APPRECIATE YOUR VIDEOS !!
Since you compared them a bit with the set of Jamo speakers costing much less, how would they stack up to the Fluance XL8F that you seemed to have a good experience with? If I remember correctly (without pulling up that video) you didn't have the same issues with the XL8F's that you mention with these Elipson's. I'd like to hear you include the XL8F's into some future speaker reviews if possible.
As far as your question about speakers I'd be very curious to hear the new monitor audio silver seventh generation that just launched. Recently heard the 6th gen silvers and golds and was amazed after hearing many other top brands in the same space. Runners up would be the paradigm founders 40b and would also be interested in your take on the Martin Logan Motion 40i and Polk R600 R700 towers. Thank you very much!
Excellent review Andrew and Kristi, as always. ProAc is a British speaker manufacturer who does not get much love in the U.S. They have a well earned reputation for being warm, and a tad forward. I have owned many pairs over years and still own one (or two but whose counting?). Anyway, I was wondering if you have tried reaching out to them to get in some of their recent offerings like the Tablette 10, Response DB1, or the classic SM-100 remake? I would very much enjoy hearing your opinion on any of their line-up. But those would make great entry points for a serious musical lover.
Andrew, as usual I like your reviews. I believe the accuracy even in the choice of words. You have made me a follower of Klipsch and I own a Klipsch soundbar. No disrespect to any other brand but I would want to deduce from all your reviews that quality and value and the intended application are always key forms when it comes to speakers. thanks for remaining neutral nonetheless.
I love your reviews. I'd love to see you review some towers from Revel (pair the objective with the subjective)! At almost 2K per speaker I think it would be hard to justify these over something like a Focal Aria tower or Focal Sorpa bookshelf.
Perhaps you guy's received a defective speaker or pair. It can happen, sometimes wiring can be assembled incorrectly causing it to be out phase or there's a crossover issue?
@@andrewrobinsonreviews Hi Andrew, thanks for the reply. I trust your experienced ears and knowledge. This brand has never been on my radar, actually I've heard of this company. Love your channel, keep up the good work.
Hi Andrew, Your screen presence reminds me of Alex Trebek. I would love to see you as the new host of Jeopardy! Is there any way you can get that done for the country? (Seriously! No joke)
Its not fair to compare 14F with Klipsch 8000f, compare it with atleast 24F or price wise 34F is also a conteneder. and then see how Klipsch 8000f compares with these.
Infatti quando vuoi ti distruggono le klipsch con le mie elipson prestige facet 34f stessa fascia di prezzo quindi test più attendibile dive le povere klipsh perdono miseramente ..ho avuto l'occasione di provarle io stesso con altri amici appassionati e questo è stato il ridultato
You should do some vintage speaker review content! Pick up some older mid to high end stuff get them re capped and if they need it re foamed then review them using your vintage receiver and something more modern and compare would be interesting!
I am intrigued by the way you reviewed how good/impressive are the elipson's midrange and highs sound, i hope youll get the chance to review their bookshelf someday paired with a sub, though i can picture how they would sound but actual review from them would be more informative. I prefer bookshelves considering my little space.
Excellent review as always. Always enjoy how you express all your thoughts, either good/bad…question: is there something similar to the Naim Atom but without the amp section? (HDMI, usb, ethernet, etc)
If you notice on that video about the Elipson xls 15. When asked compared to the KLH 5. He said oh the bass is better. He did not say it sounds better than the 5. But according to you the Linton was better than the 5. So that means the Linton's are getting close to the La Scala .Mmmmm Maybe you should compare the Linton's and 5 again guys. Cheers!
Why dont you review their prestiage 34F, that would be the one im interested in, also Heco celan. Great review, your honest in your review, some people on here make everything sound good but thats imposible. Lol
Hi sir First thank you for all you do for promoting the hobby of hifi , no easy task with the amount of equipment out there . When it comes to speakers it’s a particularly form of mine field that can be a difficult path to negotiate , especially having reviewed the kef meta stand mount speakers no pun intended . But it is the nature of the job to try and explain the virus components available , be they good bad or indifferent . I wonder from my perspective as a hifi enthusiast dating back to 1970 , weather you might consider concentrating on systems that are a totally packaged . You both by now know what does and does not work together , so why not capitalise on that knowledge and say (right here are our go to setups ) . My humble reasoning is most people never ever get the opportunity to see never mind hear the equipment you have access to , so who better to give informed advice. My journey in hifi has been long and not without its costs , so if you can help people to avoid some of the pitfalls what’s not to like . Best wishes and kind regards to you both 😀👍👍👍
Andrew and Kristi i have a question! :) How long do you usually have with a speaker to evaluate it? Some speakers need up to 500 hours before they sound their best.
My PSB towers paired with NAD C388 sound sweet. Most of my listening are originals or audiophile jazz, they fill the room, never hooked up my sub. And my living room is not small
If I had the funds at the time I would have bought the klipsch rp8000 i think to me they are the best bang for the buck and that is as long as they are paired with a decent receiver.
Kinda makes me wonder if they are wired up wrong internally, as out of phase would cause bad bass and poor stereo imaging and that combined with some cabinet resonance could cause some strange sounds. I've seen people with that issue before as you think you hooked it up right because all the colors match up but the issue is within the speaker. Although I'd expect you to be able to pick up on that considering how long you've been in the business so it probably isn't that. Audioholics had a pretty good roundup a few years back and 8000f, Paradigm 800f and SVS Prime Pinnacle I believe being the standouts but I'd also say Revel f36, and Kef either q750 or q950 would also do well or Wharfedale EVO4.4. Like you guys said a lot of good choices in that range.
Hope you find a place in California, is it more in Southern California or northern or central coast? Klipsch 8000 are the best bang for your buck under 2grand
@@andrewrobinsonreviews we shall welcome you back with open arms Andrew. I’m planning on moving to San Diego in a month or two because I need a change from Los Angeles.
I was watching a video on Just Audio's channel of some KLH headphones up until the guy actually said that you can pay .99 cents per month to watch their videos ad free which is hilarious considering they sell the products that the videos are about so you would be paying to watch their ad, ad free! lol. Guy has some stones for sure.
★ *REVIEWING THE 14F: **bit.ly/36hsHBf*
★ *QOTD: Who currently makes the best tower speaker under $2000/pair?*
★ *INFO/LINKS ARE IN THE DESCRIPTION UNDER THE VIDEO*
★ *RULES: Please be respectful. NO OUTSIDE LINKS, URLs, email addresses, etc.*
The monolith 460t thx. This is a monster speaker 55 inches tall....
@@triplelexxx9407 Going to have to Google that speaker. Thanks for the tip!
@@prabinpaudel5572 They still haven't sent them to us. Anytime that happens I really question people's life choices.
@@zachariahadams Kinda like reading about new Polk speakers in another online publication this morning and saying to myself, really Sound United? We still doing this BS?
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You're a great writer Andrew, and your delivery is super polished.
You guys are quickly becoming my favorite channel.
Have a great day~!
Klipsch rp 8000 is a top contender. Especially if you do just put some cheap Xover work into it. They are truly amazing speakers for the price.
Exalant reveiw. You manage displeasure without being nasty. A rare trait.
What a day. I just came back from my workshop, building my first DIY hifi loudspeakers, after being sick for a few days. And now a new video from you guys!!!
For even under $1,000, I'm really happy with the Jamo C 97 II that you recommended. The new WFH paradigm meant that I had to incorporate a home office in what was previously my relaxation space. I had to re-arrange the furniture and now the speakers are less than 5 feet away from my chair and the speakers are then about 7 feet away from each other and aren't positioned against a wall (it's a weird space I'm working with). Even with the weird layout, the Jamo's completely disappear and the sound fills my loft wonderfully. Vocals sound as though they're much further back in the loft than right in my face (even though the speakers are within spitting distance) and drums typically manage to come from behind the vocals. "Bubbles" by Yosi Horikawa is just amazing to listen to on the Jamo speakers.
I’m 63 and love your presentations. What speaker today is most like the large Advents I had as a kid. I used a pair on each side run in series with the top one upside down so the tweeters were together. Thanks. Dave
I was in the market a couple of months ago. I was all set to get the Klipsch 8000F towers when I headed to my local audio dealer. I asked the salesman what else I should consider for the budget. He had me listen to the Paradigm Monitor SE 8000f. In the store I had a hard time choosing between the 2. I purchased BOTH and did a side by side in MY HOUSE. I kept the Paradigm and returned the Klipsch. I felt they had more from top to bottom and felt like the mid was too thin with the Klipsch.
BTW, not a mistake. Both companies use 8000f as numbers for their speakers.
I love listening to your guys reviews....even if I'm not interested in the product. GREAT JOB!
I appreciate that!
Same here
Hi, if I hadn't gone to the UA-camr news site, I wouldn't have known that your channel provides reviews on speakers, and I can only say that you are great, you've delivered and justified and professionally done and you match it, Jennifer Wright, if I only lived in the US hopefully soon, but right now I am in the Philippines, and now that I got your channel subscribed, I wouldn't miss all your reviews of terrific speakers of which I pray that they will be available here in the Philippines. anyways, catch up with you on your next review. God bless you.
We just pulled a pair of *brand new speakers* out of the box that sound SO GOOD!! A quick positioning closer to the wall and dude! So good. All this nonsense about needing 100+ hours of break in...I just can't get over the fact that some people really believe this and are willing to WAIT for 100s of hours before they can start enjoying something. Life is too short for that!! Stop making excuses for stuff that you just really don't like (not to mention succumbing to marketing manipulation). It's okay to put it back in the box and try something else.
Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.
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The capacitors in a speaker's crossover will break in as they 'form' - that's legitimately a thing, to what extent is debatable:) Having said that Dynaudio speakers are the only speakers where I ever experienced a pronounced difference in performance after going through an extended break-in period.
@@decoryder it is one thing to wait a bit for a woofer's surround to become more pliable or the "spider" but to wait for a freaking capacitor to somehow change its electrical value (when it shouldn't ever if it isn't an old style electrolytic one) sounds mostly like snake oil.
Sorry, but I work with many electrical engineers and they say they design circuits using components specified to certain values and they DON'T expect those values to change much over the lifetime of the device if it isn't abused electrically or environmentally.
Capacitors are simple devices. They build up and hold a charge then release it when asked.
If they are using such cheap capacitors that they do change their values and they are relying on that to make their speakers sound better after 400 hours of "burn in", then it begs the question of how much more they might change in value over time?
If I'm going to drop $1000 on a speaker it better play the same over at least 10 years.
I'm not a "flat Earther", but I'm not buying it...literally....
@@rosswarren436 Please refer to what I actually said, none of which relates to the claims you posted - those are your own.
@@decoryder yes they are...I've never heard any Dynaudio speakers and if they take over 200 hours to "break in" I never will consider such a poorly designed product...Even if they DO require such a thing, the onus on breaking them in (and those energy costs and time) should be on the manufacturer, not the consumer). But I will watch Kristi's and Andrew's review for fun....and with interest...
I'm actually really interested in the F34 version. If the midrange and top end is actually really impressive, I'd be willing to actually brace the cabinet and put the work into fixing.
Do you think they are good enough to warrant that extra effort?
I'm still feeling good about my RP 8000F purchase 3 years ago
I have just saved for and purchased a house full of Klipsch speakers!
@@walrusgumbootable you will not be disappointed, Friend! I have the klipsch 12" sub, center channel, and the 600m for my rears. Thinking of adding atmos speakers after I stop travel nursing. Right now I take Klipch Sixes to each travel assignment
Way to go I have the 8000 Rp and I'm not disappointed
@@OscarSanchez-tk3hx imaging is solid, good midrange, excellent bass response for broad range of music especially rock, hip hop, and electronic. For home theater it's an amazing performer, great value for the money.
I appreciate the honesty here. Too many reviewers just get excited about every speaker that comes their way -or that is the commissions!
I had the elipson prestige facet 6b bt, their active speakers, and i felt exactly what you said, one moment they sound really really good and other moment they sound just horrible. So your review is just spot on! you know what you are talking about that's for sure.
After a year i just sold them, they just annoyed me to much.
Andrew knows how to review a product, great details covered with brilliant description of sound.
It’s all about his experience of the equipment rather than all about him as a person.
Yes, but he also brings his personality to the review process and the taped reviews. How could he not?
@@SeanVedell yeah some reviewers I watch not naming names but he shares my first name, and you have no idea what the product is all about.
Thank you Steven, I appreciate that very much. We try and make these reviews approachable and practical from a real-world standpoint.
Thank you for taking time to reply Andrew,
Can't wait to hear what you think of the Heritage XLS 15. It's one of a few speakers on my list to consider. Also heard KLH are bringing out a new, larger "Model 7". Hope this trend of modern innovation, power efficiency & sound quality with 70s vintage good looks continues.
You said just what I was thinking. That would be an interesting review.
One of the more eloquently put “don’t buy this” reviews.
Indeed....
Cabinet resonances is the downside of 95% of tower speakers. So, it is not surprising if some obvious coloration appeared in these 'budget' line. Always a delight to listen to Kristy and you giving an honest review! Maybe Danny at GR research could fix Elipson's problem, that would be interesting! Bye!
Always good seeing that "Rio" on the end there.
Nice catch.
New album out Oct 22nd. 4 new songs out now on youtube. They are all great.
Some parts savage... but done in a tasteful way. BTW, Andrew love the Focal Chora 806, really airy, clear separation and sufficient bass. The vocals is the star as you have rightfully stated. Thank YOU.
Welcome back! You are a word smith!
Thank you Paul!
@@andrewrobinsonreviews or Kristi is a good editor....LOL..
You are blessed to have a wife, partner, that someone in you're life who is your life's love, ( you get my drift) to also be involved in audio! I haven't met anyone who's an Audiophile, that has that special bond. I mean No One! I think it's fantastic!!
Really enjoy your content. Keep it up from australia 😁
Appreciate you tuning in all the way from Australia!
Well, I'm watching these videos to learn something because I don't see myself buying a $2000 speaker anytime soon 🤷♂️ anyway really enjoyed it!
What are you in the market for, if anything?
To be honest, I was taking a look at the Airmotiv t1+ as my very first tower speakers to start setting up a home theater, but I'm most likely buying now a receiver for around $500 and wait for black Friday deals to see what I can get then
@@HoracioPz You will be pleased with the Emotiva towers. Thoroughly enjoying mine
@@HoracioPz I've had the T1+'s at my house for a month. They are a steal at 700 and amazing with home theater. They sound huge and the highs are good. For me, musically the bass is a bit bloated and so I chose something else. But if your budget is 700 and you are looking more for home theater than music, these can't be beat. I use the B1+'s and E2+'s for my surrounds to great effect as well.
Yup, bang for my buck… Klipsch is still my wheelhouse. Found a pair of 820f towers around Christmas last year at an amazing discount and wow. Its not their higher end line, but still really delivers what i want. My RF7 IIIs are awesome as well. But i was really surprised at the value i got with the 820Fs.
Nice man, when I settle down I want to get those too
I just got a pair of 2-3 year old RP-280F for around $500. A great bargain.
@@mcplutt Those are great speakers, you got a pretty nice deal
@@hwanjung8230 Yes they are a good value.
Good to hear...
I wish I listened to enough speakers and amps to understand everything you say. Wish someone would do a video where they explain every word they use to describe audio and edit the audio to sound like what they are describing.
Grear review, but happy I decided for the 8000fs. Nice plants Andrew, I see you have base plants and midrange plants, but I see no treble plants.
I own the Klipsch RP-8000F's in my theater system and love them for both movies and 2-channel. Caught them on sale and paid just under $1000 for the pair. They are hard to beat at a regular price but almost impossible to beat at the price I paid. I run a vintage pair of Klipsch Epic CF-2's (circa '94 to '96) in my 2-channel room that I really enjoy, and Vandersteen Model 1's in my work office. The Vandy's are excellent if you can get past the look.
Another great review. You guys have any tower speaker reviews with 8" or larger drivers on the horizon? A tower speaker shouldn't need a sub, but it seems like most do these days. Elysian 4 looks promising. Maybe Kanta 3. I bet Kristi would second a vote for some Sonus Faber Amati towers :-)
I bet I'd like the SF towers too. I just wish you could buy their stuff online.
@@KristiWright And i wish they weren't 30k. Just stumbled on the Elipson Prestige 34F with it's 10" drivers and promising response range. Wonder if they would have the same weird crossover issues you guys saw with the 14F.
The Paradigm Monitor SE 8000f have 8" drivers and are under $2K
Outstandingly honest review, it's nice to hear and see that if something doesn't meet your standards or personal preferences - you spell it out without being offensive. Best audio channel on the net. I am just about to pull the trigger on new towers - either the Klipsch RP-8000F or the Paradigm Monitor SE 8000F. Being Canadian, I am leaning the Paradigm direction (built locally) however many reviews (including yours) speak very highly of the Klipsch. And from a price point - I can get either for about $1700CDN a pair...($1350 USD?) Hard to find reviews on the Paradigm's however they have only been to market for 8 months. Opinions? Cheers....
See a lot of french speakers that you're reviewing recently. Love it !
This one was savage - really great adjectives, love the articulation on this video. I can watch this just for your stunning adjectives. Hats off!
And.. if your voice goes any deeper, it's going to be reference audio for subwoofers ;)
I've heard a bunch recently (from friends) about this rather unknown brand - Davis Acoustics. Maybe review one of their floorstanders - say Vinci ? Would really love to hear a review of one of those. Just a request, in case you can accommodate it. It looks quite poppy with its yellow Kevlar mid-range drivers.
I've got the Klipsch rp8000f and I also love the mid and high on it while listening to acoustic music. Might have something to do with my vintage technics amp. For the price simply great speakers that can do it all.
Way to go I also have a vintage technics SE A 100 with meters amazing sound on My Klipsch reference speakers
I love my PSB Imagine X2T towers. Not the best cabinet finish quality, but very solid and great sounding. My dad has a pair of Klipsch R820F towers that are more dynamic and powerful, but pairing my PSB towers with a sub, I will take them hands down over the Klipsch. (both being driven by NAD amplifiers)
I just got the s807, very impressed. I was expecting a very bright speaker but i was pleasantly surprised.
So the cabinet is the Achille's heel of the 14F. Please (if you can) review their HERITAGE XLS 15 and see how they compare to the JBL and the KLH Model 5. Thanks for the honest review.
Good morning guy's. Good job on the review.
Thank you so much Sean.
Best tower pair under 2000.00.... Def Tech BP10s. Oldies, but goodies.
All around for sonic believability. Identically matched units do work. They make the walls disappear over the full spectrum.
Thanks Andrew and Kristi.. very entertaining and informative review... Having potential "is" exciting, but doesn't t cut it , does it? We want that full spectrum package.
Cheers
NEVER a good time to ditch Klipsch...but I am biased I suppose, I prefer a horn loaded speaker.And I heard a pair of Klipsch 600 bookshelf speakers recently and I was impressed. Recommended if you are shopping for a bookshelf speaker.
I have both the 8000 and the 600, the 600 are damn good for bookshelf speakers. I use the 600 for the rears, but used them for a week as the front stage to break them in, and I was very impressed with the sound quality
Great video again guys! Still waiting for the Dyns though 🙂.
Please may we see a review of the Elipson F 34
Have you guys ever ventured to build your own speakers? Something I’ve always wanted to do but never done
I have ELAC Debut Reference towers ($1200 a pair) as part of a 3.0 setup in my den. I’m not sure if these are the best under $2K but I really do like them. I also have B&W 603’s (not the anniversary series guys! 😂) in my stereo setup and really enjoy them too, especially with my records. Both are pretty neutral imo and let the music come out naturally. Hope this helps anyone in the tower market at $2K or less.
Do you think the ELAC Debut Reference towers image OK? Are they OK playing at lower volumes? Thanks! Oh do you mean the first or 2.0 version?
@@rosswarren436 I would say imaging is solid, but not incredible. That’s to be expected though for what you are paying. Since I have the matching center channel I can also enjoy them at low volume levels while still easily hearing dialogue. Not sure if that would still be the case in a two channel situation.
@@rjmoyer2 thanks for the info...I'm trying to find a "Goldilocks" speaker under $1000....great at lower volumes, dynamics, neutral sounding, with micro dynamics and a good sound stage...LOL...I don't think such an animal exists...But I keep watching reviews and trying....=and dreaming...
Great review, for the QOTD I heard a set of Monitor Audio Bronze 500's at a friends house that sounded pretty good, I also agree with you on the the Klipsch. Alot out there to choose from.
Monitor Audio is a GREAT brand churning out exceptional products for the money!
Fyne Audio Speakers ex Tannoy dudes from Scotland. Just bought pair of 502SP point soucre floor standers. Bass is awesome big sound and sensitive speakers at around 92DB have alot of models to choose from. I liked them more than the Canta 2's and am driving them with a Naim uniti Nova.
Klipsch rp8000fs with yamaha as801amp sounds amazing:) also for movies i use them with marantz sr8015. I don’t think anything come close in that price range to be honest.
I think they look great… even their funky surrounds. But a “confounding “ performance is disappointing. Great video, folks. Thanks!
At first blush I agree, they look pretty cool. The surrounds grew on me but I'm with you re: the sound. Appreciate you tuning in!
Andrew is truly a master at filming. Watching this video playback just now, even I was like, well these look pretty good in video! Seriously, the number of times I question myself _after_ seeing Andrew's b-roll could help put a down payment on a new house. I just have to go back to my impressions while actually living with them and remind myself that I'm not crazy. 😂
@@KristiWright movie magic.
Once Elipson was world famous for creating speakers without resonance and almost complete neutral sound, like the 'concrete' eggs, etc.
Anyway, nice to see a review of Elipson, as I have nice memories re. the famous Elipson 1303 (Foster Tweeter).
Apparently, it seems this one is far, far away from Elipsons initial goal ;)
Great review, as alIways. I have The Elipson Heritage XLS 15. They kick some serious ass.
Are the cabinets on them pretty solid with no resonances like the 14F? Thanks! Did you compare them to other speakers before deciding on them? Thanks!
@@rosswarren436 No. There is no resonans in any way. Had Fyne F-502sp and Falcon RAM Studio 30. I use Naim 282 and Nap 250. Cheers.
@@bsoerig85 THANK YOU!
I wonder if the 34f has improved over this one.
Hi Andrew , I have question , klipsch rf-7 or Elipson 34F Thanks
Your review makes me think of some Wharfedale Towers I still have from earlier this century.... ooo. You just mentioned Wharfedale towers!!! Great minds... LOL
Another great review yall
Thank you 🤗
Got our Martin Logan Motion 40i's on sale for less than 2k, would be a great future review?!
I'd like to hear you start making comparisons to the Fluance XL8F since you did a product video for them vs a review. A little insight to how you really feel about the XL8Fs.
The XL8F speakers are great, very easy to listen to for long periods of time. A bit bass heavy which makes them more full-bodied than a lot of other speakers. They need careful placement and a good amp with solid bass control. But they're an option, for sure.
Elipson is more known for their globe speakers which nowadays are named Planet. Otherwise they make entry hifi range products which compete more with brands like Jamo. The french have several big loudpeaker brands like Elipson or Davis Acoustique as entry level, Cabasse, Triangle and Focal as middle class to high end level and and high end with Jean-Marie Reynaud, Kelinac, Pierre Etienne Léon or Atohm and plenty of artisan brands like Pier Audio or Supravox. It is not an complete list there are really a lot of them
Towers speakers for two grand or under per pair. Hmmm, I would like to see review of the Polk R700 towers. Throw in some Paradigms, and maybe some Fluence towers. And just sir back and see if the Klipsch 8000's eat them for lunch,or maybe surprise you.
Personally I'm really wondering if the new Polk R700's are going to put Polk back in the ring as a contender, in that price range.
And let's not forget some Elac's. And they have to do double duty as well. Great video as usual, and keep up the great work.
For many people speakers need to play well at lower volumes as well as loud. Wonder if the new Polks are better in that regard than the ELACs? (Still offer some richness and dynamics)?
Send them to GR Research! As always, an excellent review.
Why, so that guy can stuff foam in it and shove a 10 gauge wire up its ass and call it fixed?
I always like testing my speakers with metal because it's difficult music to get right and I was told if the crossover is well made well any music you play should be wonderful
Best $2000 speakers? Klipsch RP 8000F. I bought mine early in 2021 for less than $1500 paired with an old Audio Research d100 separate and SB AE-9 with ESS SABRE-class 9038 DAC soundcard
Pure magic with all kinds of music!
I'M LOOKING NOW WITHOUT SOUND BECAUSE IT'S LATE AT NIGHT HERE IN FRANCE 🇫🇷 ... ANYWAY, I HAVE SOME BOOKSHELF SPEAKERS FROM ELIPSON PLANET M AND THEY'RE AWAYSOME !!!! MY DREAM WOULD BE THEIR SPECIAL BS 50 TRIBUTE, INCREDIBLE EXPERIENCE!! ANYWAY, I LIKE VERY MUCH YOUR WEBSITE WICH IS VERY OBJECTIVE AND FROM VERY GOOD TASTE, CHRISTIE AND YOU! THANK YOU SO MUCH FROM NORTHERN FRANCE, FAR AWAY FROM US 🇺🇸, I DO MUCH APPRECIATE YOUR VIDEOS !!
Since you compared them a bit with the set of Jamo speakers costing much less, how would they stack up to the Fluance XL8F that you seemed to have a good experience with? If I remember correctly (without pulling up that video) you didn't have the same issues with the XL8F's that you mention with these Elipson's. I'd like to hear you include the XL8F's into some future speaker reviews if possible.
As far as your question about speakers I'd be very curious to hear the new monitor audio silver seventh generation that just launched. Recently heard the 6th gen silvers and golds and was amazed after hearing many other top brands in the same space.
Runners up would be the paradigm founders 40b and would also be interested in your take on the Martin Logan Motion 40i and Polk R600 R700 towers.
Thank you very much!
Excellent review Andrew and Kristi, as always. ProAc is a British speaker manufacturer who does not get much love in the U.S. They have a well earned reputation for being warm, and a tad forward. I have owned many pairs over years and still own one (or two but whose counting?). Anyway, I was wondering if you have tried reaching out to them to get in some of their recent offerings like the Tablette 10, Response DB1, or the classic SM-100 remake? I would very much enjoy hearing your opinion on any of their line-up. But those would make great entry points for a serious musical lover.
Perfect review Andrew!
Andrew, as usual I like your reviews. I believe the accuracy even in the choice of words. You have made me a follower of Klipsch and I own a Klipsch soundbar. No disrespect to any other brand but I would want to deduce from all your reviews that quality and value and the intended application are always key forms when it comes to speakers. thanks for remaining neutral nonetheless.
If you could get your hands on the xls heritage 15…please……
I love your reviews. I'd love to see you review some towers from Revel (pair the objective with the subjective)! At almost 2K per speaker I think it would be hard to justify these over something like a Focal Aria tower or Focal Sorpa bookshelf.
Perhaps you guy's received a defective speaker or pair. It can happen, sometimes wiring can be assembled incorrectly causing it to be out phase or there's a crossover issue?
Or maybe it just didn't sound THAT great, or its design has a few issues relating to the cabinet and bracing?
@@andrewrobinsonreviews Hi Andrew, thanks for the reply. I trust your experienced ears and knowledge. This brand has never been on my radar, actually I've heard of this company. Love your channel, keep up the good work.
I hope you will review the Wharfedale evo 4.3, they are below $2000. I cant wait to hear your thoughts on them.
Hi Andrew,
Your screen presence reminds me of Alex Trebek. I would love to see you as the new host of Jeopardy! Is there any way you can get that done for the country? (Seriously! No joke)
You're right! He actually would make a great replacement. But then we'd have to find another audio reviewer.
Its not fair to compare 14F with Klipsch 8000f, compare it with atleast 24F or price wise 34F is also a conteneder. and then see how Klipsch 8000f compares with these.
Infatti quando vuoi ti distruggono le klipsch con le mie elipson prestige facet 34f stessa fascia di prezzo quindi test più attendibile dive le povere klipsh perdono miseramente ..ho avuto l'occasione di provarle io stesso con altri amici appassionati e questo è stato il ridultato
Hi andrew
Whats your very best soundbar on the market right now? Still sennheiser?
IMO - it's the Ambeo and the Samsung Q950T. Right now the Ambeo is on sale - bit.ly/35yLQO1 and bit.ly/3Do8k4y
@@andrewrobinsonreviews
Freakin love u man 👍
You should do some vintage speaker review content! Pick up some older mid to high end stuff get them re capped and if they need it re foamed then review them using your vintage receiver and something more modern and compare would be interesting!
Trying to set something like that up right now.
André, have you tried these with French musique?
I am intrigued by the way you reviewed how good/impressive are the elipson's midrange and highs sound, i hope youll get the chance to review their bookshelf someday paired with a sub, though i can picture how they would sound but actual review from them would be more informative. I prefer bookshelves considering my little space.
It sounds like they cut cost w/their cabinet construction, which is killing this models overall performance...sad
Anyway, great review guys🍻
Great review.
What do you think of the Elipson speakers? Intrigued or something else?
The look is nice. The asking price is questionable for that performance.
Thanks for watching, Francesco!
Hi Andrew, that's a nice looking watch, what model is it?
amzn.to/3aUBkoQ (I have both the black (mesh) and the brown leather/white face versions - love them both)
@@andrewrobinsonreviews Appreciate it, thanks!
Excellent review as always. Always enjoy how you express all your thoughts, either good/bad…question: is there something similar to the Naim Atom but without the amp section? (HDMI, usb, ethernet, etc)
Yes --> amzn.to/3wrULMG (also available here bit.ly/3qRkAEV and bit.ly/3hnVnyN)
If you notice on that video about the Elipson xls 15. When asked compared to the KLH 5. He said oh the bass is better. He did not say it sounds better than the 5. But according to you the Linton was better than the 5. So that means the Linton's are getting close to the La Scala .Mmmmm Maybe you should compare the Linton's and 5 again guys. Cheers!
Why dont you review their prestiage 34F, that would be the one im interested in, also Heco celan. Great review, your honest in your review, some people on here make everything sound good but thats imposible. Lol
I don't know if they're "the best", but they're what I enjoy on a regular basis: HTD Level III towers in beautiful Macassar Ebony.
Hi sir First thank you for all you do for promoting the hobby of hifi , no easy task with the amount of equipment out there . When it comes to speakers it’s a particularly form of mine field that can be a difficult path to negotiate , especially having reviewed the kef meta stand mount speakers no pun intended . But it is the nature of the job to try and explain the virus components available , be they good bad or indifferent . I wonder from my perspective as a hifi enthusiast dating back to 1970 , weather you might consider concentrating on systems that are a totally packaged . You both by now know what does and does not work together , so why not capitalise on that knowledge and say (right here are our go to setups ) . My humble reasoning is most people never ever get the opportunity to see never mind hear the equipment you have access to , so who better to give informed advice. My journey in hifi has been long and not without its costs , so if you can help people to avoid some of the pitfalls what’s not to like . Best wishes and kind regards to you both 😀👍👍👍
Andrew and Kristi i have a question! :) How long do you usually have with a speaker to evaluate it? Some speakers need up to 500 hours before they sound their best.
We had them 501 hours.
@@KristiWright uh….😆
@@KristiWright bahaahaha
500 hours won’t fix cabinet resonances. You’d be better off spending a couple of those hours improving the cabinets :)
@@RennieAsh I was not talking about this speaker. This was very clear :)
great review. im stil using polk rta 15t towers
I have a pair of Ryan620s , but I don't know the price since I bought them used. I think they are great but they might be more than 2K.
My PSB towers paired with NAD C388 sound sweet. Most of my listening are originals or audiophile jazz, they fill the room, never hooked up my sub. And my living room is not small
If I had the funds at the time I would have bought the klipsch rp8000 i think to me they are the best bang for the buck and that is as long as they are paired with a decent receiver.
In the 2000$ price range, I would say Fyne Audio F-501.
Or the Elipson Heritage :-)
@@mcplutt I have them. They are awesome
@@bsoerig85 Where did you get them? They are not on the Norwegian market yet. But I can wait :-)
@@mcplutt Stereofil
@@Cpk20001 They have Wharfedale Linton Heritage, can't find any Elipsons there.
Say Andrew, did you try a sub woofer with the 14Fs?
Kinda makes me wonder if they are wired up wrong internally, as out of phase would cause bad bass and poor stereo imaging and that combined with some cabinet resonance could cause some strange sounds. I've seen people with that issue before as you think you hooked it up right because all the colors match up but the issue is within the speaker. Although I'd expect you to be able to pick up on that considering how long you've been in the business so it probably isn't that. Audioholics had a pretty good roundup a few years back and 8000f, Paradigm 800f and SVS Prime Pinnacle I believe being the standouts but I'd also say Revel f36, and Kef either q750 or q950 would also do well or Wharfedale EVO4.4. Like you guys said a lot of good choices in that range.
Do you think they were defective?
Defectively designed? Yes. Broken? No.
@@KristiWright LOL
Hope you find a place in California, is it more in Southern California or northern or central coast? Klipsch 8000 are the best bang for your buck under 2grand
Thank you. Looking at Southern Cal.
How do you feel about these compared to the svs ultras
@@andrewrobinsonreviews we shall welcome you back with open arms Andrew. I’m planning on moving to San Diego in a month or two because I need a change from Los Angeles.
Why didn't you compare this speaker to the KLH 5 which you spoke so highly about and is very close in price?
Model 5s are infinitely better.
The 34 are what we all want to see what you think
Hey buddy is Klipsch rp-280f sounds better than Klipsch rp-8000 or vise versa.
I was watching a video on Just Audio's channel of some KLH headphones up until the guy actually said that you can pay .99 cents per month to watch their videos ad free which is hilarious considering they sell the products that the videos are about so you would be paying to watch their ad, ad free! lol. Guy has some stones for sure.
Thanks for the video review
Hello Andrew and Kristi 🇵🇭
Hello Normandy! Enjoy the review!