D-Max BT50 MUX TYRE WEAR FIX? SuperPro Fulcrum Steering Knuckle | BEFORE & AFTER Test
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- Опубліковано 1 чер 2024
- In this 2 part video we look at a TYRE WEAR FIX for the new D-Max BT50 MUX from SuperPro Fulcrum in the form of their new Steering Knuckle. We do a full BEFORE & AFTER Test, showing what the differences are and complete and alignment before and after installation so you can see the difference for youself. Part 2 shows the full DIY install - out shortly!
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0:00 Intro
1:49 BEFORE install overview
3:31 Test #1
5:20 What is happening
8:21 AFTER install overview
8:57 Test #2
9:52 Test #3
12:01 UCA?
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I think as this is a super common issue, you shouldn't have to go fork out extra cash already on top of the 65k that you paid for the ute to get something like this fixed. Isuzu needs to take responsibility and do a recall to fix the issue.
A lot of people think exactly the same way mate
This was the line in the sand that put me off this ute completely. How can they get something so basic so wrong. So glad I switched my purchase. The only downside was not owning a ute that @VideoShowMeHow made content for! 😆
@HDGHOLD what you end up going with mate?
Wait, is this an issue even on stock standard dmax and mux? Or does this only happen after you install a lifted suspension?
Can be yes unfortunately
I was hopping you would do this install, after my first service with Isuzu at 16,000km I drove out and went straight to get a safety certificate as I had just moved interstate, both front tyres (factory tyres still on it) outer side measured 5mm, the inner tyre measured below 2mm which gave me a failed inspection, very thankful there is a solution :)
no lift done on here either
Hi mate, I fitted these myself about 2 months ago and have noticed driver fatigue has improved as a added bonus.
Keep those videos coming.
Love the channel.👍
Wow your timing is incredible. We installed BFGoodrich from a supposed reputable major tyre company start of 2022 and after a trip from WA to Qld and upon arrival noted the uneven wear on the inside front. We took it to the same company in Qld advising of the issue to which they advised it needed an alignment so we did. Twelve months later (this month) one of our front tyres was illegal and unroadworthy due to the inside wear. We have just bought five new tyres and this video popped up so Adam you are a star for bringing this issue to our attention so we’ll be doing the same.
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The best explaination I have seen so far 👍
Thanks for the vid.
Thanks! Hopefully made some sort of sense!
Having the same issue. Talked to the fleet manager of a large company with over 100 Dmax's, all factory standard. He tells me they are having the same issue. So its not just modified vehicles. Im looking into starting a class action to get this expensive problem resolved. If you are interested in joining let me know.
Yeah seems to be a few starting to get off the ground, some of the facebook forums have more details
@@VideoShowMeHow Cheers. I've followed your channel and build my Dmax using nearly all the same products. Did the cape last year and couldn't be happier with the outback armour suspension. Keep up the great work.
Great video, Very informative and dealing in facts! Is this increased by lift? Or even stock height?
I’ve ordered knuckles and ucas for mine keen as to get them fitted
Hi Adam thanks for this info. I’ll see what Isuzu has to say as it’s going for it’s 40k service. I’ll check the tyres…thanks again.
good video - very informative
Great video
So in seeing this being such a common problem. Shouldn’t this be a Isuzu fix.
Ps my front insides have worn out at about 30000kms.
2021 Dmax xt
Would be interesting to see the compression specs! Most the driving everyone does would have more compression then droop. Kind misleading to me not being able to see the compression specifications from the alignment machine. Just my thoughts
My Dmax has done 70000kms, the front suspension is stock and AT tyres are at stock dimensions. I’ve got no visible inside wear on either the Wildpeaks or the now Yokohamas Geolanders.
From your video I could see how a lift and maybe tyre dimension change could make a difference.
Great vid Adam. I've watched fulcrum's video on the subject but this is even more depth to the problem i've been curious about.
Obviously Isuzu won't ever come to admit fault here, as it's probably not a safety concern, they'll never recall it. Curious to know if they'll just silently fix it on the next models though
Cheers mate. Yeah am curious to see as well, seems pretty clear a lot of people have premature wear unfortunately. I was quite surprised just how much movement there was on the laser, and in editing the vid was surprised how much you could see in tyre move in that front on
@@VideoShowMeHowI had my 2021 Dmax serviced recently at Brisbane Isuzu and asked them if there was a recall notice to repair the steering knuckle / tyre wear issue. They advised that there is nothing wrong with the steering, there is no news of any recall and they are more that happy for me to pay for new steering knuckles and upper control arms if I think its required.
Hey Adam
Have Isuzu fixed this issue on the 23 model d max’s
Keep the great content coming 🤙🍻
No I'm afraid
I would love a set of these as my car has bad wear I've only owned it for just over a year now and I've had two wheel alignment Isuzu say there is nothing they can do to help me what a load of bull but there so expensive I mean still cheaper then new tyers every year but just having that kind of money is hard to get can't wait to see the installation on this part 👍
Out soon mate 👍
$2450 fitted for the 2 knuckles. Then the tyres are on sale, you can get 2 set of Falken AT3 for $2500. Assuming the tyre wear is fix, will it make the tyres last x2 longer? Financially it is a bit of toss up unless there are other major benefits other than just uneven tire wear.
you think you only go through 1 set of tyres for lifetime of the car?
imagine 4 sets, at 50k kms each to last 200,000kms which is easily achievable with a Dmax.
Now, with the current wear on the tyres, that could be 8 sets of tyres for same kms.
$2500 for tyres..would you rather do that 4 times, or 8 times at $20,000?
doesn't seem like a toss up
Steering wise especially going through windy corners with bumps do you feel any difference in stability?
A little yes, more 'straight'. At the end is the day with these having epas there's never going to be a lot is feedback through the steering wheel
Finally found something that makes sense, been on ISUZU New Zealand about this. Noticed at the start of this year a little vibration on steering wheel especially turning and reversing on gravel. And six months later excessive tire wear on the left inner front wheel. ISUZU told me it’s normal tire wear 😂 and the vibration could be felt on a straight road now. Will this be the same issue?
Could be unfortunately
Hey mate didnt see your dust/dirt shield covers after the install. Is that because they were too close to the rotor? Had mine installed and they were super close had to pry them back abit. Cheers
Yeah left them out, too many little stones getting stuck in there from hitting the tracks. Have run without on my last 2x 4wd and worked great 👍
Cheers mate
2014 Isuzu D-Max with ARB BP-51 suspension and 16" Cooper STMaxx Tyres fitted and mine wear out on the inner edge and I am luxky to get 40-50K on them. I am looking at installing an adjustable upper control arm or something.
UCA will only allow extra adjustment for castor setup, won't do anything for toe unfortunately. Unsure on pre 21 dmax though, different knuckle I believe
Hey mate, after all the off-roading youve been doing, are you still loving the outback armour suspension?
Yeah mate, survived the cape 👌
Have you got a video on buffing out bush pin stripes on the paint work
No, but could do it enough interest? I need to the same job on mine 😂
@@VideoShowMeHowI wouldn't mind a video
Are they set at the factory alignment settings or changed to different settings?
These are set to factory
Hi Adam where did you get the bonnet radio aerial bracket from?
Is a GMF bracket, can get via APC 👍
Many thanks mate I enjoyed the videos on the trip plan on doing that ourselves soon. Obviously the bonnet struts didn’t ? interfere
I keep thinking about this as I own a 22 Gt Bt50 with this issue,and thinking maybe Fulcrum should head a mass lawsuit against Mazda and Isuzu AUS…….would benefit Fulcrum in the long run👌 I just get so annoyed I have to fork out for this when I spent so much, and especially Mazda just kept hand balling the blame when I’d bring it up😡
So the best way to build these would be to design them so the steering arm is installed from the top & bolted downwards,
But fulcrum did what they did,
I have also been thinking about these as well, as I have the same issue,
Apparently the ute is a totally different ute to drive & steer after the install,
Can you confirm this?
Keep us posted mate.
I wouldn't say it's a totally different ute to drive, these are eps so you simply don't get the same feel being electronic. It does feel a little more 'straight'. The real test is of course in the tyre wear but I'm confident after seeing the data, the fronts moving 30mm less in and out a zillion times a road trip HAS to make a difference
Re arm position, different stresses I'm told
Exactly!
can I use this on a stock suspension set up?
Sure can
I don't know if you've seen it but Isuzu sent a memo to dealers on 31 August that addresses this issue. I'll post it on the FB page tonight but it's a classic case of trying weasel their way out of an engineering mistake and is quite condescending. Btw, they say that 40k km is an acceptable tyre service life.
No haven't seen?? Tag me in the group? Super interested in seeing :)
@@VideoShowMeHow I'll post it soon. Interested in hearing your thoughts.
@longstraightlines6747 - what Facebook page are you referring too? I'm coming up to the end of my 12+ month waiting list for a new MU-X, but with this issue coming to light I would like to better understand how (if at all) ISUZU may be looking to address the problem. Many Thanks 🙂
@@waynefewster6747 ISUZU D-MAX MY20/21 OWNERS GROUP AUSTRALIA
Posted 30 Spetember.
So there is no point in replacing the UCA, is that right?
It won't solve the wear issue no, generally required over ~40-50mm lift to get alignment correct
Hello, Is There ANY 4X4 WITHOUT A TYRE ROD?? OR HOW DO WE FIX THE PROBLEM??
In Off Road Situation, When your Tyre Rod Hit a Big Rock, Your Stuffed!:-(
All ifs cars have a tie rod, is how the steering works :) Good news is they're rarely stuffed off-road and easily replaceable in need
@@VideoShowMeHow thanks for the input!:-)👍👍👍
Damn. ive just had to replace all 4 tyres on my xterrain because of this issue. Definitely sounds like an ACCC contact
Isuzu will now replace all 4 if less than 40k km. If that's you I'd be having a convo about refunding costs
Shouldn't this be fixed by Isuzu under warranty?
A lot of owners are saying just this..
I think you'd get the same effect if you reversed the taper in the original steering knuckle and fitted the tie rod end upside down. It wouldn't be too hard for an engineering mob to accomplish this and it'd be a lot cheaper and easier than replacing the complete knuckles. What is the actual height difference of the tie-rod connections between the standard and modified knuckles??
Checking the amount of toe-in by lifting the front wheels off the ground in this video means absolutely nothing, what this test should have shown is the varying amount of toe-out at different suspension compression loadings all the way down to full compression and guy swinging off the bullbar is also pointless. The tyres toe-out when the wheel or wheels hits a bump or undulation (bump steer) , this is what causes the wear on the inside edges of the tyres. Sometimes adding extra toe-in can reduce the tyre wear but there's always a trade off. Another option is instead of rotating the wheels around the car is to reverse the tyres on the rims so the worn edges are now on the outside of the rims, once a tyre starts to wear unevenly it will keep wearing unevenly but not to the same extent. Isuzu should be fixing this problem on all the "standard" height vehicles imho as once you start fitting lift kits etc. you are altering the original vehicle and the problem then becomes yours.
way to expensive
Isuzu Service Bulletin S2023-05 Uneven Front Tyre Wear 21MY D-MAX and 22MY MUX - Isuzu have increased the bump steer toe out to improve steering stability
They increased the toe in as per the service bulletin which is nothing more than a 'band aid' solution with several trade offs. You will not see front tyres lasting more than 30,000km with this 'fix'. You may probably also notice excessive tyre scrub noticeable on low speed turns and slightly poor handling particularly on wet roads.
Good Video Mate! Please tell me you did this B4 your Trip Up North, or you got a lot of worn out Tooth Brushes? LOL Looks Spotless!!
Haha no after.. think I've got *most* of the red dirt out 😂
@@VideoShowMeHow Great job!
Only on dmax-3 hey.... not dmax-2?
Yep, gen3
Are those rims +30 offset. If not, any higher and you won't be covered by insurance.
??? No they're +18, so long as roadworthy (they are) all good 👍
@VideoShowMeHow It's not legal. I'm a mechanic and I see this all the time. If you're driving around on non compliant rims, you're not insured. +30 is the max in Qld.
Hmm well VSB-14 (LB2) says max of 50mm for 'offroad and light goods vehicles' (MC, NA & NB1) in QLD. Factory rims are +33? Anyway, thanks for the comment mate ;)
why would you just get it fixed under warranty
Because it can't be unfortunately :( Hopefully this may change in the future
@@VideoShowMeHow if the part is faulty it would be replaced under warranty
@@shadowjohn2266 Isuzu/Mazda are denying there is a problem.
Wow i didn't realise how badly engineered isuzus are. Super glad i went with a toyota. You don't get these sort of issues.
Apparently similar with the hiluxes just not as bad
@@VideoShowMeHow had no issues with my hilux, being a toyota it's extremely reliable.
Sometimes it's worth paying that bit extra for quality.
@@VideoShowMeHow just wait till you start having issues with the turbos and aircon, my mate bought a 21 d max and he regrets it always at the dealer trying to get something fixed.
@@AdmissionGaming yup. never seen a single toyota with a problem. They are god's chosen wagons.
@@AdmissionGaming had a friend that due to sheer amount of isses he had with his Hilux, after 2 years Toyota bought it back off him and also paid for the accessories he had fitted.
My tyres are terrible after 18k km
Good fix, just not worth the stupid amount of money to fix this, the problem isn’t that bad. Your wear isn’t that bad, I’ve got the same tyres, 50,000 hard k’s on them and still have life left. If it was reducing tyre life by 50% it might be worth it. But 10 / 20% over the life of the car is negligible
I'm easy 50% the way through mine, I rotate every service (7500). They've only done 20k. Will swap them out soon now this mod is done and am interested to see the difference :)
Keen to see how it goes
10,000kms and my fronts would be lucky to do another 2000s at this rate before they are stuffed. At $300 a tyre it’s an expensive way to maintain a vehicle. Thats about $600 every 10 months and I planned on having this car for 7 years.