Worst Selling Pickup in America for a Reason | 2020 Nissan Titan Pro-4X Full Tour & Review
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- Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
- Pickup trucks are insanely popular in the United States & Canada, yet one nameplate holds less than 1% marketshare. We're looking at the dead for 2021 Nissan Titan.
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We here on TestDrive have had a run of booking vehicles that end up getting killed off. Recently we've gone out of our way to book a number of those killed off in 2020 but this one came as a bit of a surprise to us since we had it on our schedule before the news broke. Our full tour and review is on this 2020 Nissan Titan PRO-4X Luxury Crew Cab 4x4 pickup truck and we're looking at why this was the worst selling full-size pickup truck in the United States and Canada for 2019, the worst selling pickup truck of any segment for 2019 in both countries, and why it's already off to a terrible start for 2020.
We go over the sales data from Nissan Canada and Nissan USA when it comes to the Titan & Titan XD and compare it to the rest of the pickup truck market. We then go over some of the reasons why this wasn't a popular seller, ultimately leading to Nissan Canada's decision to end sales in Canada after 2021. We also discuss what was axed in 2019, specifically the 5.0L V8 Cummins turbo diesel engine offered on the XD heavy duty trucks, and what changes came for this 2020 model year.
We also discuss some of the features or lack thereof found on this truck compared to the other full size pickups we've driven to date, and why you might be looking at one of these instead. We jump inside the 2020 Nissan Titan to talk about the interior features and layout, along with the updated 8" infotainment system, 12 speaker Fender audio, Intelligent AroundView cameras, panoramic sunroof, Nissan Safety Shield 360, dual zone automatic climate control, and heated and ventilated front seats.
We then take the 2020 Nissan Titan on a real-world road test to talk about the 5.6L Endurance V8 gasoline engine and the issues we have with it, specifically off-the-line latency with the throttle response from a standstill. We go over some of the positives like the Zero-Gravity front seats and simple pricing/trim levels, but we keep coming back to the throttle response issue we experience.
Ultimately it ruins our experience with this truck, making it one of the worst vehicles we've driven to date as the Nissan Titan doesn't do anything better than the Big Three American trucks, nor does it have price on it's side. We can't figure out why anyone is buying the Titan, so we ask you our viewers to chime in with your thoughts, especially if you're a current Titan owner. We report our real-world fuel economy test results with this half tonne pickup truck and wrap up with how we really feel about it.
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This truck is actually not a bad option. Hard to compete with the American pickups because of their brand loyalty and frequency to update and redesign their interiors and exteriors.
You’re right, it’s not a bad option overall, in fact everything else about the truck was really good. If I didn’t have this power delay problem at full stop I’d have been extremely positive about it overall, but this one problem is a major one and ruined the entire experience.
PRN_TestDrive the funny thing is it could be fixed with a software update or throttle body tune. Great review as always!
Hopefully can be! If Nissan fixed that issue then my overall opinion on this truck would change.
Eh it's not a "bad" option like it's not a bad option to pick a all terrain street tire vs a dedicated off road tire... its just a cost benefit equation all must consider....
Dude you have an issue with your specific truck!
It has no turbo crap, no cylinder deactivation crap, and no stop-start crap. It seems like the best truck on the road to me.
Column shifter too!
The fact that you like Fords tells me I cannot trust your “honest” reviews. Ford is almost as unreliable as Chevy.
I’ll take a Honda Ridgeline before buying this.
@@PRNTestDrive at a boy
@@PRNTestDrive That statement makes your entire review invalid.
Ok, I suppose you’re an expert.
For reliability perhaps on the Ridgeline, but I’m not into cock sucking so I won’t own one of those ever.
I had a 2017 Titan Pro 4x and just traded it in for a 2021! I think you get the best out of your money with this. Considered the Rebel but went ahead with the new pro 4x. Was able to get a lot more bang for my money and can’t beat 5 year bumper to bumper warranty. No regrets. My tailgate locks from my key fob and I have zero issues with a lag from stop.
HEY I have the choice to make between a fully loaded 2017 XD Pro X and the exact truck in this video. Having owned a 2017 as well, which one would you recommend? There's a $8k difference but I'd pay it if the 2021 is worth it. I'd love to hear your opinion after 3 years if you read this!
Had a 2014 Pro-4x never had one single issue. Now driving a 2021 Pro-4x, loving it. This guys review is way off base. The lackluster sales I think can be blamed on the total lack of marketing on Nissan's part - they dropped the ball on this gem.
Not sure what you have, but my tailgate locks with the remote. I also don’t have that delay.
The reason folks buy these...because if you walk into a dealer, they will deal....0% interest, $4,000-$8,000 discounts standard before you even put the screws to the dealers...you can get an MSRP $65k truck (in the US) for the low 50s...or even in the 40s.
Then in the US you get a 100,000 mile warranty and our local dealer provides a lifetime power train warranty. Not sure how much that is worth to folks, but that has us sold and trading in our F150. Good luck folks.
FYI, your delay is because of your traction control being on. Turn it off amigo.
Is this really true? I hope you're right, because I just bought a 2023 and have really noticed it. I will try that, thanks.
I bought 2010 Nissan Titan pro4x brand new and still go strong after 10 winters in Illinois
Glad to hear that!
I just got a 2015 pro 4x used i am really excited about it. I have only been hearing good things.
Sick !!! 😎 that’s really good to know !
Absolutely best all around truck on the market, have owned all top 3
I got mine in September 2020 and I live in the LA area and they had none on the lots I had to drive to San Diego to get mine the production had a huge delay because of covid and mine has a tailgate that locks remotely I love my Titan it’s the most underrated truck on the market and test drove Chevy, Ford,gmc hands down blew them out of the water !
Just came from a 2019 RST Silverado to a 2020 Nissan Titan Pro 4X. I test drove every truck including the f150 5.0 V8. I only test drove a titan to cross it off my list. As soon as i drove it i was sold on it. Im not seeing the lag your talking about. Also my tailgate locks with the hit of thr button. The truck is fast, love the V8 and 9 speed. The camera does suck.
Strange about the locking tailgate, I’m wondering if they cheapen it out just for the Canadian market. The throttle issue is only when you come to a complete stop, not a rolling stop through a stop sign like a lot of people up here think is acceptable. I tested it every way I could to cover all the bases. Either way if you’re happy with yours that’s all that matters!
Same here, just purchased 2020 pro4x and it’s the best truck I’ve owned. That’s coming from F150 and Ram Laramie owned in the past
I don’t have a lag as described and my pro-4X luxury in Canada came with a locking tail gate.
Early production runs sometimes don’t have the module.
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I think that we all agree that those who "roll" stop signs are either a**holes or inconsiderate pricks. I'm leaning towards both. Lol
Travelin' Ted you actually come to a complete stop at a stop sign when there isn’t another vehicle in sight?
Went from an f150 to this. Best decision I ever made
I went to test drive this Nissan Titan Pro 4X and I felt in love with it. A very underrated truck.
Glad to hear that it works out for you!
We bought one just like the video, didn't notice a delay on ours. We tow our camper, best truck hands down, we tested all of them. We have had more compliments on this truck, at least once a day!
I've had my truck for 15 years 2006 Nissan Titan I Am very very happy with my truck I would buy it again in a heartbeat The most reliable truck I ever had. . And to have this ignorant person making a video about Nissan Titan boils my blood !!!!!!!!!
@@HectorMartinez-rs5jo Nissan trucks now are not like Nissan trucks back when yours was made.
From 2 Chevys to the 21 Titan Pro-4x in black with all the light kits added... I'm loving it! Beast of a truck and feels good to drive and extremely comfortable..Can't beat the price or warranty too for what you get....Nissan did a solid with this. Sorry your experience wasn't a good one.
Dependability, every other brand of truck (including Ford), I’ve owned has fallen apart or began to rattle after a year or so. Also, my 2020 Pro4 X off the line is snappy and it has integrated tailgate lock. Not sure why the difference, US vs Canadian requirements?
Totally inaccurate. I did a 24 hr test drive in this. Nothing was wrong with the one I drove, I am not a ram, chevy, or ford fan I absolutely loved the comfort, the drive of the truck. The interior is perfect for me. I love this truck and hopefully will have my settlement soon to buy this
I had this for a week, so I guess that’s better? Basically if you roll through stop signs you’ll never experience the throttle delay, and it only occurs within the first 2 seconds of a complete stop, so if you come to a traffic light and wait 20 seconds it’ll be fine. The rest of the truck is ok, but everything is overshadowed by this one critical problem that other Titan owners have confirmed in the comments.
@@PRNTestDrive again to each their own but like i said i love that it's not a high seller that means I'll habe a truck that hardly anyone has. I respect anyone's opinion on it but from the exact truck I drove I had no issues at all, and I took it all day on back roads plus the highway.
Be honest your not a fan of ford or ram or Toyota because your a cheap fuck lol and want the cheapest full size truck that is ass
You are stomping the throttle off a full stop. People don't drive like this on the street. You generally release the gas peddle and let the vehicle roll and than gradually accelerate. There is a software delay in the drive by wire system to maximize fuel consumption. The way you are driving, this thing will probably do 10 MPG.
No, I stomped on the throttle on the third attempt during this video to prove my point. Normal driving with this awful truck had the exact same experience, a serious delay off the line as if the engine went into a cylinder-deactivation mode. This is not a software 'feature' to increase fuel efficiency, this is a mistake on the Manufacturer's part and needs to be fixed.. at least in the US, since this truck is DEAD here in Canada.
@@PRNTestDrive dude the lag is normal for being more fuel efficient and not slamming your head off the back window. This truck has to find middle ground from young to older people
You're correct. I mentioned that. :)
@@PRNTestDrive Just like every thing else... Nissan isn't for everyone.
This delay is for a reason. One: so you dont slam your head thru the head rest, two: as a soft start so the engine isnt ramming 400 pound feet of torque thru the drive train instantly. I will agree it is annoying not having full throttle from dead stop acceleration. My 2017 Titan does this but ONLY during the first few minutes of cold start-warm up period otherwise I dont have this delay once up to operating temps. I test drove a 2020 pro 4x and this delay was every time no matter engine temperature.
My 2020 Titan Pro 4X is the Best pickup I’ve owned after having a GMC Sierra and a Dodge 1500 Ram pickup. This is the second Titan I’ve owned and would have it any other way. Comfort and overall performance puts the FOR SALE sign back on the Dodge and GMC. I’ve been told by people who driven my Titan that it blows away the
Ford 150. I’m not a Nissan backer or employee, I’m a pickup truck fan
I'm glad to hear that you're enjoying yours, that's all that matters!
Couldn’t agree more, just bought one and couldn’t be happier!
what is the payload on your pro 4x? I would be expecting nothing less of 1700lbs for half-ton off-road (same as trail boss). My midsize ZR2 payload is 1260lbs. For the reference, 1 cubic yard of topsoil is 2000lbs, so for a half-ton I would love to see something closer to 2000lbs to be practical, and maybe 1700lbs+ for the off-road version as a tradeoff.
@@npast1 the ram rebel is less than 1000lbs.
@@npast1 1600+lbs!! Get it right, stop hating on a great truck. You better hope you have a good warranty on that Colorado....major reliability issues with that POS
Just bought a 2021 Pro-4x after owning a 2006 for 16 years!! I noticed the lag, installed an air intake and the truck CAME ALIVE!! He created a whole "hate video" about the lag? The rest of the truck is the best I've seen. Power, speed, ride quality, comfort, quiet interior, engine sound, stereo sound. And my tailgate locks with my key fob.
The reliability and low maintenance is the best. American trucks felt cheaply built to me..... oh the sacrilege!!!!
I mean if you buy a fridge but the cooling system doesn't work and your food goes rotten, you aren't going to keep the fridge just because it's stainless steel and has a built-in tablet. The fact this truck had significant issues with throttle response makes it useless. I buy vehicles because I want them to move me around. But that's just me I guess.
This is probably the most underrated pickup on the market. It does everything well, has more towing capacity than most of its competitors ( in the 4 door 4 wheel drive setup) go ahead and check, Ford especially likes to throw those huge towing numbers out there but what they don’t tell you is that those big numbers are for a stripped down, regular cab, 2 wheel drive model. Most of the F150s in this configuration are only rated to tow around 8000 pounds. But the number one thing that the Titan has going for it is it’s RELIABLE.
I own a 2017 Titan 4x4 I've modified quite a bit big lift, fuel rims, big mud tire's, lots of aftermarket lighting, my Titan fly's it always has!
2021 Titan SV has a ton of power and if very comfortable. I’ve always owned GM and I was sold test driving this truck. Most underrated truck on the market.
I believe the late throttle response is done on purpose for 2 reasons: 1. torque management to protect the drivetrain 2. inrush dampening for the catalyst's to keep them from being over fuelled (mostly for emessions)
Very well could be, and I appreciate your input on this as everyone up until now has either been a Nissan apologist and said I'm stupid, or a true Nissan hater and said it's just a dumb engine.
This truck (PRO 4X) performs well offroad and competes with the Chevy Trailboss quite well, and on the used market you can get this with low miles for low $30k American. The acceleration problem can be fixed with a Pedal Commander, as its a delay in the electronic accelerator... at least in my experience.
I bought a pedal commander for my Lexus ES330 (car) which had a similar lag. It defnitely improved it but a) did not eliminaite it 100% and b) why should you have to buy an add-on to (sort of ) fix a clear design flaw?
I watched your full review and honestly its awful. Much better reviewers of this truck on this platform. You never give praises on what it does good just negative . Plus you say its not as modern as an 2020 f150, lol please. My father owns a new ford f150 (hes a ford guy) and it is all plastic in the cabin) lol. I drive a chevy/ford (bother older models) and c'mon you are so bias even reading your reply comments your negative. I test drove this truck and it is a very nice vehicle but dude if your gonna dawg it down atleast show some praise. This will be my first and last view of this channel. Goodluck.
I’d praise it if there was something worth praising. There isn’t. This is the worst selling truck in North America, that’s why Nissan is killing it off. Buy one if you want, I’m no Nissan apologist and I don’t sugarcoat things just because others are too afraid to tell the truth.
You do mean killing it off in Canada right? As a Nissan technician in the US, we have dozens of future training for the remodel in 2022. And to put the debate of the delay on acceleration to rest.. it’s a algorithm in the TCM to improve fuel economy for the US and Canada. As well as not letting 400ft/lbs of torque instantly slam the drivetrain. As a ram rebel owner, it’s probably worse than the stop start feature. But I can’t argue with the negatives you listed in the video. But compared to a tundra it’s miles ahead in tech. Like damn at least it has a locking rear diff where the trd pro doesn’t. And for any titan owners that most likely won’t read this, find ethanol free gas if available. Direct injection always clogs up with ethanol during the winter months.
Did you watch the video? I explained near the start that Nissan is only killing it in Canada.
Completely biased. Plain and simple. His attitude toward a review is garbage. Completely misleading. Ignore this review.
I have no bias. When something is shit I call it out. Worst selling truck for a reason, sales numbers don’t lie.
I have a 2017 Nissan Titan Platinum reserve and I absolutely love it. It drives really smooth, feels big but very manageable at the same time. I don't think from a stop anyone really stomps on the gas like that. I haven't noticed any lag whatsoever in my truck but then again from a stop I just accelerate normally. But to answer your question why anyone would choose this over a Ford F-150 for me, I just don't trust Ford in the long run. I always buy Japanese because they just make better more reliable cars than the domestic brands. Also the seats in the Nissan are a lot more comfortable than that Ford and it just drives better in my opinion. I also got a really insane deal with a great warranty that I couldn't pass up. Really couldn't be happier with my Nissan Titan. For people that are doubting it, just go and take a test drive and see for yourself.
Couldn’t agree more, quality of the “big 3” has gone to shit.
Absolutely love my 2020 P4X. Much better then the 2017 I had in every way.
Glad to hear you're enjoying yours!
Was your 2017 a gasser or cummins?
I drive a 2015 Jeep Renegade. I had to step on the gas last night to leave the driveway this morning!
Definitely not a good sign!
Can’t help but wonder if the “lag” you’re feeling on complete acceleration has to do with emission settings for your country. They’re different between USA and Canada if I’m not mistaken. Again, not sure but it was the first thing that crossed my mind when you mentioned it.
You’re the first to mention that, although we have heard from a few commenters who’ve experienced the same throttle issue on their Titans of varying model years.
First thing I thought of too. I live in Mexico and work in the U.S. and have experienced this with the Jeep Gladiator but with the reverse happening. Since Mexico has more lax emissions the truck drives with so much “umph” and power off the line. Before that I drove a Mini Countryman JCW also from the Mexican market. The Mini’s spec sheet even listed a higher horsepower and torque number (not a whole lot but still) because of the emissions controls or lack thereof.
Anyone who would spend $60+ thousand on a pickup is likely to be motivated by forces other than rational thinking. In many cases its a fashion statement. A pickup is pure profit for the auto manufacturers as it is basically a WWII light military vehicle with some glitter and tinsel added. For most of its history the Toyota Landcruiser was basically a 1938 Chevrolet light truck as used by the US military when they conquered Japan. OK I confess - I drive a little Mazda and live in fear of big pickups.
There’s nothing wrong with driving a ‘little’ truck! Pickups are only profitable if they end up selling. The fact that Nissan in Canada has almost 100 brand-new 2019s at full price shows their problem.
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Ford is coming out with an all new compact truck named the Maverick.
Lol….Ford is typical American car company which will build a model then shit can it in a year or so, the Maverick will be no different; great when brand new and will start falling apart as soon as the warranty is up.
So sorry for where Nissan is today. It all went down hill after the CVT.
I'm genuinely surprised this didn't have a CVT in it considering how little Nissan seems to care about it. The Infiniti QX50 I just drove had one, was the only black mark on an otherwise excellent crossover.
I think Renault is what actually killed them, because pre-renault vehicles and the current frontier are pretty great vehicles. The CVT is a bummer, but vehicles like the sentra with a manual transmission also have terrible reliability ratings.. sadly.. because the 96 SE maxima with a manual was one sharp car..
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Spot on review. My 2020 Pro4x has had this horrible hesitation off the line since day one as well. Countless other owners talking about it too on forums. Nissan has been typically unhelpful. You actually understate the problem by not mentioning the critical danger of the throttle delay when trying to take a left with oncoming traffic approaching. Had a very close call recently in trying to go left with minimal distance from oncoming traffic. I would all but guarantee accidents have taken place because if this. Additionally major, bad clunking and revving issues.
I'm sorry to hear you're having issues with yours, we've heard from some other dissatisfied owners over the years since publishing this video. I hope you're able to get it fixed.
Nissan Titans and Armadas built from Gen 2 2016-2018 have an engine knock issue they put out a technical service bulletin TSB 057 I think to have engine cylinder #7 scoped for scored cylinder wall. If under warranty they do a short block fix, out of warranty they want over 9 grand to fix or you get a crate engine for 18 grand. This is a huge problem and a safety recall should be done if engine seizes on the road. Now they say 2024 is the end of Titans in U.S. and Canton Mississippi plant will focus on ev frontier and some other ev. Nissan makes so many mistakes and they don't support current customers. EV cars were a huge govt boondoggle like CFL light bulbs they partnered with GE to suck in unaware citizens. All in the name of "climate change" but you know someone is making money. Nissan has financial problems, the Chinese will probably own it in 5 years.
It's for lack of promotion and advertising. The Titan is one of the best trucks in its class. It's not over techy. I grabbed one for a deal. ( under 50k, if that's a deal). And dude, no trucks are really selling at the moment. You are wrong.
Well I mean we filmed this 4 years ago, so today's sales data doesn't really apply to what we talked about almost half a decade ago.
Hi I was watching another video and turns out the nissian titan has hill start assist.
So if your on a incline it gives you a second after taking your foot off the brake to press the gas so you dont roll back. I can only guess this is the culprit of your major complaint. Looks like your roads are level so it can either be something wrong with the hill start assist system or maybe you can turn it off the feature.
I do not own a titian or have drove one recently but looking into them currently.
That's a likely issue, and you're the first one to mention that. I wonder if that was the issue with it.
FYI - My P4X Titan has an auto locking tailgate and lumbar support. I'm not sure why you didn't get these options.
The Titan is also the only maker giving a 5 YEAR, 1000,000 mile warranty! I love my Titan!
Someone mentioned a couple days ago that they didn't get the locking tailgate and it was apparently due to the supplier going bankrupt, and Nissan wasn't able to get new mechanisms. Not sure if it's actually the case since I can't verify that.
My 2019 Pro 4x has no lag? and the tailgate locks with the keyfob. I bought it because its a great truck, with a set of features not available on the other trucks.
I have a 2018 titan. The reason it has a hesitation at take off is you do not have your foot completely off the brake pedal. If you have any pressure the pedal it cuts out throttle.
This is true, especially if you pump the breaks 3 or more times…. The less you pump it the more the transmission responds quicker. (I own a 2020 pro4x)
I'm going to buy a Titan in about a month or two and I was wondering...if it's an automatic, wouldn't your foot already be completely off of the brake when you press the gas...unless some people drive automatics with two feet.
I went with the 2020 pro4x because of the interior features, the bed was a big deal for me with the utilitrack, I’m a trim carpenter and all the tile down options are awesome. The dealer let me try the truck out with my rv and it doesn’t squat at all and that was one of my biggest complaints with the f-150 5.0 that I traded in. It would squat too much. The interior with all the stitching, the heated and ventilated seats, the power memory settings, the black headliner and pillars and the sound system, the warranty and the price was still thousands lower than anything comparable with the big three and then I was able to get 0% financing with nmac. Pretty much the best overall package I could get anywhere. Now if I was looking for a base model truck or if I was looking for a higher trim level truck I probably would not have gone for this but I paid $47,981 plus TTL U.S. for a fully loaded Titan with the leather, with the utility package and with the adventure package and mine has every option... the Titan side steps and pro4x mud flaps, two sets of floor mats... just every option and no other brand could compare to those options and that pricing.
My complaint would be the resolution on the camera. The screen is nice and crystal clear so why are the cameras so bad. Other than that the pro4x rides pretty rough and I also had the delay with the stop and go mainly at stop signs but that did go away at about 5-6k miles I’m thinking it had something to do with the truck learning my driving habits, that’s about all the bad I got.
I'm trying to buy this truck now 2020 in PA and that's the price after taxes the dealership wants for it. 35k miles
I agree with all the above . The camera resolution does suck, but that’s not a dealbreaker for me
I am in America and a former owner of an 05 Titan. It lasted for 13 years with no major issues and only got rid of it after a wreck. I am seriously considering a 2020 XD as well. Titan gives you great value and reliability. The only complaint you have is a lag in acceleration after stop?? You are missing out on a great overall truck
I usually but a vehicle because I want it to go when I push the gas, otherwise I’m buying an expensive lawn ornament. It’s true though this was my only serious complaint about it, but it’s a significant one.
I have an XD and no delay at all. That said, a good friend had the Titan PRO-V and experienced the delay issue. He took it to the dealer 3 times to no avail. He finally sold it. He came from a previous gen Titan and was very disappointed. Both of ours were Gasoline powered 2017 models. I’ve had mine 4 years now (bought late ‘16) and have had zero problems.... picked my XD over an F150 6.5’ bed crew cab and I’m still happy I did.
I purchased my 2020 Pro back in May. Drove’em all but as soon as I test drove the Titan it was over. This is a very under rated Truck and I get inquires and compliments about it all the time. Not bullet proof mind you, but no brand is. The more I drive it the more I love it. I’m also averaging around 18.5 mpg. I’m a normal city/country driver. My tailgate locks/unlocks with my key fob. Best bang for the buck truck on the market IMO.
In the market for a knew truck, saw your review, but i went to test drive 2021 Titan Pro4 anyway, and a was pleasantly surprised !!! i love the truck ! The excelleration was excellent ! did not experience any of the issues in your video ? My only complaint is the MPG could be better. I was looking at a Ford F150 ? its a tought choice ? I actually likes the looks of the Titan Pro4 better that the F150, and the price in my area is Titan loaded $45K no sunroof, F150 $58k w/sunroof I think this comment just talked me in to it LOL !!!
If the truck works for you then get it! I wasn't a fan of it, but the truck certainly serves a need for people out there.
I just purchased a 2021 Nissan Titan, no problems. Best truck I've ever owned thus far.
Hope you enjoy it!
I really enjoy my 2019 Titan would like to eventually get another one
I don't understand your review on this titan..my 2021 pro 4x is a reliable beast! Way better than the competition for me. I think people just don't want to admit this truck is a great truck. Only reason sells are low is because people are skeptical about leaving their brand. This truck is a true underdog!
Just when they finally make it good looking, they decide to stop offering it. Probably because they can’t include a CVT with it. Nissan is such a Confused company. It doesn’t sell because of lack of variations and engine offerings I guess. Then again Tundra sells considerably more. I wonder if these vehicles quality is so much worse than Tundra?
The Tundra I think is on its 14th mode year on the same generation, it’s crazy! But people still buy them likely for their reliability and dependability. Nissan had the right formula with this for 2020 but that engine problem is seriously bad. I know I was really negative in the video but this was the first press car I’ve ever had that I just refused to drive outside of what I filmed.
@@PRNTestDrive I respect your honesty. Yes that wait in acceleration from stop was not good. Same reason I also hate start/stop systems. I guess that is one thing electric vehicles don't have to worry about
Very true! I'm in a Volvo XC90 T8 this week with the hybrid system, the seamless transition from gas to electric and the way you never feel the shift coming off a stop is what I love the most about these PHEVs.
@@PRNTestDrive I bought a 2020 Tundra mainly because GM and FORD Suck whale dick. Thanks to GM or gm and FORD for sending me to Toyota in 2004. Best choice I ever made. I know many people who have the 3.5 ECOBUST....It is a rats nest for quality. Timing chains...intercooler...cam phasers...pure unadulterated trash. Ford is a one truck pony. Take away the F series and Ford is not even in existence.
I own a 2019, I too had a problem with the acceleration at a stop. I too would smash my foot to the floor and have the delay. It took me months to realize the truck was quicker. When I pressed the pedal halfway to 3/4. I think possibly the engineers at Nissan developed the engine and transmission for torque, to conserve fuel or the acceleration was programed this way to get the best out of the engine and transmission. - this some of the conclusions I came too. I test drove F150s, Rams, Chevys and Tundra, I choose this vehicle from the list of pros and cons that I thought were important. Oh and if you want a quicker response time....then yes ECO boost (and greater maintenance cost) is the way to go......or a sports car. I didnt need a truck to have a sub 4 second 0-60. Have a great day.
I tried just about every increment of acceleration pedal possible during testing, absolutely nothing changed the delay from a full stop, the only difference was how much tire squeal you'd get after that delay. I'm always light on the pedal as I like to conserve fuel, but no matter what I did I had the same delay. We've heard from a couple other commenters that have the same problem. Either way it's good to hear from a Titan owner and I hope you enjoy yours!
@@PRNTestDrive Yes I have enjoyed the Pickup. There are programs that you can buy and that modify or reconfigure the throttle response and some have posted videos on You tube. I wouldnt modify if it voids the warranty. The Titan 2020 has been redesigned for the better but is it too late - For the Canadian market it is too late. I think the value for the price point is probably the main hook to buy the Titan or atleast test drive the vehicle. It will be interesting how NISSAN responds to the 2020-2021 sales too see what will happen to the Titan.
Put some pedal commander and the truck will fly ....believe me
Yup, pedal commander!
Great review! I bought a 2017 Titan Pro4x w/26k miles and it’s now been declared a lemon and qualified for the buyback program. Truck now has 46k miles and needs a transmission. Nissan USA has tried to lowball us on the buyback and up charging for a 2021 exact spec truck aside the color. We should’ve stuck with our crappy
F-150 lol.
Current gas mileage is 8.5-9.5 mpg!!!
You're one of the few people who's agreed with me on this vehicle. Sorry to hear you had that many problems with yours, hopefully the next vehicle you get won't give you any issues.
@@PRNTestDrive here’s a crazy update, not even 50k miles and the fuel economy has dropped to 8.6mpg and the dealership says the truck needs a transmission now. Lol.
Nissan doesn’t want to get us into a new truck yet only offer a super lowball buyback price. That leads to us losing a lot of money on the truck. 2021 they only sold 12,000 titans in America and Canada has dropped the Titan.
It’s the worst fuel economy I’ve ever seen.
That’s really terrible, I’m sorry to hear that the problems continue on this truck for you. I wish more people would sort through the comments here and find yours, too many Nissan apologists out there saying this is the best vehicle ever.
@@PRNTestDrive here’s the catch 22 on this truck, I love all the features and styling but the fuel economy and all the small issues have added up to an understanding as to why the Titan is the least sold truck in America.
The wheel wells won’t fit a tire size bigger than a 33x12.50
My 35x12.50 required cutting to fit with a 6” RC lift. A bummer.
I will say the truck surprised me when it was buried under three feet of snow and I drove it out while others were digging out. To many cons to ever own another one.
@GlockTard sorry to learn about that. Ours has been at the dealership now for months for a bad transmission. The Nissan USA offered to buy it back, swap it for another truck “like for like”, or give us a cash settlement to release them of responsibility. All three were low balling us and they’ve closed the case without reason once already. Nissan has went to a new low with its customers.
They have us in a rental truck and have forked our ver $10k in fees and they still fight over giving us a new truck to save them money.
I believe the hesitation from stop is due to the fuel saving/direct injection technology. Mo worse than start/stop feature imo. You have a point c brand loyalty. People like their brands.
Very nice trucks i have an 18. Lots in Northern California
That might be the market where they’re selling the most.
because of covid, the company that manufactures the auto tailgate actuator went out of business. Nissan actually had add a credit to window stickers under “ automatic tailgate delete”. I know because I own a 2020 pro 4x and they didn’t adjust my window sticker so I have been fighting back in forth for months to get them to find the part to install since I technically paid for it. Nissan wanted to refund me $150 instead, pass!
Very interesting information, thank you for sharing this! We've clearly had a lot of 'angry' Titan owners come to this video to bitch about my video, this at least can help explain why the one we drove didn't have this feature.
just bought a 2021 Titan, love it. Best warranty on the market. 5yr -100,000mile bumper to bumper. More options for less money than RAM, Ford or Chevy. You're number one complaint does not seem relevant to the 2021, Karen.
Your absolutely right, why would my complaint of the truck not accelerating be any less valid this year. I forgot that all Titans are now meant to be lawn ornaments and parked indefinitely.
The reviews killed this truck, a bunch of people that are not really truck people or are biased to the North American brands. I have owned two of these, both great and very reliable, I actually bought a F150 & Titan on same day and still own both, the Ford had had several recalls and issues that warranty covered, the Nissan has had nothing wrong over the same time period. Yes, it is a little more basic, but a great truck, too bad reviews like yourself don’t know much about vehicles
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I just bought one and love it. I do not have any lag tho perhaps its the way i drive. Probably it is programmed to avoid wot from a stop in order to avoid wheel spin. Bully dog tuners may get rid of it. As far as the locking tailgate, mine was supposed to have it as its on sticker but the factory goofed and didnt have the parts so they deleted it on some stickers but not others. Dealer will install mine shortly. My experience with dodge, gm, ford had been less than happy. Nissan makes a quality product that lasts and this truck is awesome. Its very underated though.
Glad to hear you’re enjoying yours, that was our hope after publishing this episode was to find actual owners to chime in with their experiences. Enjoy!
So I just bought one. ANd I think part of the reason this deserving truck is being discontinued due to lack of popularity is because of crap car reviewers, who lament after features and giant IPad like screens. If a truck doesn't have one, it's "dated" and you don't "get a lot for your money". Here's the kicker...none of those reviewers, because they won't be in business long if they do, talk about truck reliability. This is the last honest truck. V8 with no Start Stop/Cylinder Deactivation. That means it's reliable. All of you people shelling out $10-$20K more for comparable Big 3 pickups can count on a host of problems...and they are all over the Internet. This truck has plenty of luxury, more than enough capability than 90% of you will ever use, and they have really comfortable and high quality interiors, actual buttons to use the features, and it's A LOT of fun to drive. So buy your Chevy or Ram if you want, and buy your Ford if you want to spend more time in the shop than you do on the road. Meanwhile, those of us who drove ALL of those trucks and chose this one will still be driving it 10 years from now if we want.
We hate large tablet style infotainment systems. I also don’t associate Nissan with reliability. Those two words don’t go well together.
@@PRNTestDrive Stop being such a pansy. The Titan is a real truck for a real man.
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@@PRNTestDrive I think you’re a negative person in your personal life. I can tell by your responses on other people’s comments from your four-year-old video! As a content creator it’s not a good look. Do better…
Any documentation on the 9-speed? A lot of reviews saying it was developed in-house by Nissan.
That's because a lot of 'reviewers' are lazy and don't do an ounce of research. Here's an article explaining the Nissan-Daimler relationship and how the two companies will work together on different components, including the MFA2 platform the 2020 Infiniti QX50 we're featuring next Monday uses, and the 9-Speed automatic transmission used in this: www.automotivemanufacturingsolutions.com/daimler-renault-nissan-the-alliance-in-action/6319.article
Here's an article from Daimler's media website discussing the future plans for the two brands including joint development of transmission technology:
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Here's a PDF with details on the 9G-Tronic transmission and Nissan's license from Daimler to manufacture it for their vehicles: www.alliance-2022.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/89933.pdf
Would be pretty silly for them to go through all the hassle of acquiring a license for a 9-Speed automatic transmission and then waste a bunch of their own R&D trying to make their own. Anyway let me know if you need more sources.
Not doubting at all - couldn’t find much info when I was poking around on the web. Wasn’t sure if Nissan was telling the press it was in-house development or where sites were getting the info. Wondering when it’ll make its way to the Armada as well.
They’re definitely trying to keep the partnership out of the press docs. The Infiniti makes no mention of the MFA2 platform or the Mercedes involvement.
the new transmission is the 9g tronic, a Mercedes-Benz product.
I dont think its a secret. You can find it on Wikipedia....
The reason some people don’t buy the f150 is that they’re too expensive that’s why they got the titan even though the Ram if I’m not mistaken is cheaper
Depends on how you configure it ultimately. The Titan has less choice, so if the configuration you want happens to come at a Titan than perhaps it's cheaper. But cheaper usually comes with it's price.
After test driving all the big brands, I loved Titan Pro 4X best! I bought it. Highly underrated. Fantastic off road truck. Great new look and features.
If it works for you that's great, enjoy it!
Terrible review. Fantastic truck.
so did I , 2021 Pro4x. love it.
I drove a 2021 Platinum Reserve today. I really enjoyed it. It feels like the trucks of yesteryear, solid and reliable.
I had two Chevrolet Silverados, a 2014 and then the 2016 Chevrolet provided to me when the 2014 was declared a lemon. The 2014, first year model of a refresh had transmission, steering, and transfer case problems. The truck almost killed me on a boat ramp when the parking pall broke and allowed the truck to roll back…e-brake could not hold on the incline with the boat hooked up. Transfer case locked itself into 4WD at freeway speed cupping the tires. Steering bushing wore out at only 15,000 miles. Tech said GM was sourcing the rubber from China and the quality was inconsistent. Entire steering column rotated 30 degrees to the right after an under-engineered aluminum clamp broke. The seats started moving around and rattling with less than 20,000 miles. GM gave me a 2016…that one got stuck in lane keeping assist after I exited the freewy and caused my tires to screech around in a parking lot until I heard a loud pop and it stopped trying to get me back in my lane! Dealer could not duplicate. And then, of course the AC condenser failed prematurely outside of warranty and bang, there goes $1,000!!!
I will NEVER even look at another Chevrolet. They are industry leading on tech without much engineering thought out into longevity, interiors are drab.
Had a Dodge Durango long ago, of course, the transmission went out.
My Jeep Wrangler Rubicon JLU is on its 3rd Rear axle with #4 on order. It has also had a new driveshaft, steering control box and three steering stabilizers!! NEVER again on a Jeep either.
Fords are overpriced. There are so many of them that your resale value will SUCK. They brake a lot from what I have read.
Was going to buy the new Tundra but I see that Toyota is having to remove the cab and front of from the frame to fix a waste gate valve issue on the v6 Turbo!! Seriously!
So for me, I think I will take my chances on the Titan and feel safe with a 5 year 100,000 mile warranty
You can’t buy a “bad” truck anymore. Big 3 trucks are brand loyal crowds. That’s the only reason this truck hasn’t sold. I have the diesel XD and absolutely love it.
Glad to hear you're enjoying yours. The Diesel XD makes the most sense, it's unfortunate Nissan killed that engine option.
great video ! I don't understand why the Nissan do not sell well they are fairly decent trucks for the money . Is Nissan going to bring a new Titan for 2022 or 2023 you think ? CHEERS >>
If Nissan brings a new Titan I doubt they'll sell it in Canada after killing it off.
I just don't understand how passenger front seat can't adjust its height... Do you think it's possible to upgrade at least its rear backup camera for a better resolution?
I don’t think it would be possible, I haven’t looked into it but I don’t know if people have started modifying cameras on these newer vehicles yet to get better image quality.
first time i ever seen one of your reviews, i like you style and the info you provide. thanks man!!
I appreciate that, thanks!
I've seen ultrasonic sensors on f150s front and side.. and I know it could be used just for blind spot monitoring but I thought it had front parking sensors on the highest trim(s). No?
The current F-150 has rear parking sensors and two on the side of the truck, on the front fenders near the doors. I’m not sure why they don’t offer a full front set from the factory but the 2021 will finally have them.
Got rid of my piece of crap 2018 Dodge Ram. Engine Motor had major problems (5.7L). My dad has 2019 Chevy Silverado 1500 6.2. He also is facing problems with his transmission. I had to downgrade to a 2017 Nissan Titan. I’m liking it so far.
Why I spent 16 minutes and 37 seconds to tell you how much I hate the Nissan Titan Pro4X. Sorry you don't like the Nissan Titan. It's the truck you're driving. Mine will smoke the tires. At least it's built in America just like the Toyota Tundra. Foreign owned yet American built with the best warranty. American trucks being assembled in Mexico and parts being shipped in from other countries.
The Canadians are pretty bent about Titans not being available in canada. Nissan wants to focus in the lower 48.
I don’t know who up here is actually upset about it, only 800 people bought one in 2020 so far.
But then again Nissan seems to invest a ton of money and engineering Into the Titan and not advertise it lol.......i guess the want the people who buy them to do the advertising. I have 2 buddies that now have Titans after driving and taking trips in mine.
Dude - no self deprecating humor, please ;-) You're better than you think.
Haha! You’re the only one to comment on that so far.
My only complaint on my '18 SV....throttle lag. Brought it to the dealer, they told me all is normal
Did some research , I installed a pedal commander.
Problem solved.
Now the truck runs as it should
That was my only major complaint about it also, but it’s a serious one. You shouldn’t have to go out and buy a modification for your truck just so the throttle works. It’s unacceptable for Nissan to ship them this way.
Glad to hear this, I will try the same with my '23 SV. Still liking it?
@@brianh1161 I sold the truck and downsized to a ‘21 Ford Ranger and got a Pedal Commander for this too
@@nebaldeby5369 thanks man
I have a 17 platinum reserve 1/2 ton. I like the " old tech". Actual buttons and knobs!!!!
Glad to hear it!
Side note: I've never ever heard from a truck guy in the market "dude I'm buying a Nissan titan!!!" I think the F150, Ram, Silverado, or Tundra(tho outdated a bit, nothing like this). Sad, because with some r&d and money invested it could've carved a niche in a super, incredibly crowded market. It was a fun run Nissan ☹
That’s a very good point too. I don’t know how big the Titan enthusiast community really is. So far no one from there has chimed in on the comments.
So perception. I test drove every truck brand in the last 30 days Ram Rebel, Chevy Trail Boss, F150, GMC, Tundra TRD Pro, etc. Nissan Pro 4x is what I chose as it beats them all by a long shot. Chevy and Ford don’t even come close in interior for the price, and don’t have the manual rear locket.
Tundra is a gas guzzler and the interior is outdated, no locker.
Nissan won by a long shot in my book. People with an open mind can see it.
Lots of Titan enthusiasts around. Many forums and groups on Facebook. I belong to several of them. I own a 2019 Titan Midnight Edition. Great truck. No "lag" at all. Matter of fact, no issues at all. Been a long time Toyota guy and made the switch to Nissan over a year ago. I work for Ford. Newer F150's are the biggest pieces of shit you can buy right now, not to mention way over priced. All day long i see Sync issues, IWE problems with 4wd (stupidest design ever), cam phaser issues, transmission failures and the list goes on. Hell they have a new recall come out evey day. The engineers cant solve problems fast enough. Big 3 or not, Ford does not make a better product. I can't comment for GM or Ram/Dodge, as i havent owned them, but i would put Nissan and Toyota in a close group.
Im a Ford guy and really like the Titans looks, but the Warrior concept truck was so sharp, what happened to the Warrior?
Like most concepts it was just that, a concept. I doubt they’ll do anything with it, them killing the truck in Canada is just the first step for it dying completely.
PRN_TestDrive yep, I’d guess it gone soon in the US soon too, but sad to see It go after Nissan finally got so close to a real full size truck formula that worked
Late to the party, but you nailed it. Test drove this one today in the U.S. 3yrs later and the throttle reponse is still atrocious. I cant believe a modern pickup truck was actually engineered to be this horrible. No one should even look at these.
Few people seem to agree with me, while I shouldn't say I'm glad you had the same experience at least I know I wasn't the only one who felt this way. We've had about a dozen or so comments with the same thoughts also. Seems like some of the trucks performed better than others. Regardless, it's my understanding the Titan is dead in the US-market moving forward.
Love the new 9 speed on the titan that's made in house by JATCO its super smooth and you can't really feel it shift.
I've had 3 titans since they first came out in 2004. These trucks are badass and everyone hates on them because they aren't the big 3 trucks. Sad but true and it's the main reason why the titan struggles so much.
As long as you're enjoying yours that's what matters!
The Titan is a bad ass truck with that V8 and the sound is incredible. With a lift …tires wheels it’s super bad ass.
i do however disagree with your no1 complaint "stop sign acceleration" that is trivial to me.
And that's his logic on why not to buy🤣.
I guess you roll through stops signs then 🤷🏻♂️
You are hating to much on the Titan for me is the best truck on the market, you are not honest on your video bro
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Vk56 is made in America and has no cylinder deactivation.. makes good power... reliable...titan has plenty of great interior features, XD isn't a 3/4 ton but if you tow with it vs any other 1/2 ton it is obviously more stable to even untrained drivers. dunno what the hate is about.
nice truck, needs a bigger fuel tank.
The tank was pretty small, SUV size basically.
@@PRNTestDrive my SUV had a 44 gallon tank. So I have no idea what you’re talking about. Do you?
I have been heavily researching Titan for awhile now, am in the market for a new 4x4 tow rig in the next yr or so. What I came up with is, its a great truck overall, none of the other reviewers mentioned a lag, But, I found that the 5.6L V8 has a flaw, #7 cylinder goes bad and the engine knocks, Nissan has been replacing quite a few of these on both Titans and Armada's due to engine knock up thru at least 2018 not sure if Nissan has corrected this flaw, and it can occur at low miles. But it is sporadic whether yours will develop this or not. Quite a few have experienced this since I came across one forum thread with quite a few owners stating they are having a new shortblock installed due to engine knock with the 5.6L.
I’ve read about the engine problems also, I’m unsure if it’s still affected in the new engines, but we’ll find out down the road. I don’t imagine a lot of other reviewers notice the throttle lag, you need to come to a proper stop (ie actually stopping). I notice a lot of journalists prefer to roll through stop signs instead of actually stopping.
I've got a 16 xd pro4x diesel with 97k and just wanted to say its the best truck ive owned perfect hybrid truck not to big or small and is far better than any f150 I've driven and alot better features minus cameras. I actually own a 17 f150 with 127k for those people who speak without experience.
If it works for you that’s all that matters!
I respect your opinion but what you are describing with the throttle this is called drive by wire hesitation or also known as inherent propagation delays. This is used by many manufacturers to delay throttle response for your safety at a stand still so when you are in a parking lot you don't run a pedestrian over. It can be more noticeable on certain makes and models. This is what I was taught in auto tech school . Also you can by pass this if you need 100% TP for those that don't need it with a tuner. I did this on my 14 Nissan Xterra (bully dog tuner $400) for off roading purposes and had to do it on my 2005 Toyota Tacoma when I owned it for off roading purposes as well. AGAIN THIS IS NORMAL FOR VEHICLES WITH DRIVE BY WIRE:)
I’ve driven plenty of drive by wire vehicles, this is the first one that’s done this.
@@PRNTestDrive Sounds like Nissan may have gotten aggressive with the WOT restriction for 2020 this should not deter anyone from buying the truck just need to buy a tuner to remove it. Ill go drive one soon and see if I agree with your biased opinion of "worst selling truck" lol
It’s not an opinion that this is the Worst Selling Truck, I literally went over the sales numbers. It’s in last place. Had the worst sales in 2019, and currently is having a terrible 2020 compared to the other full-size trucks.
@@PRNTestDrive I meant that's your opinion on why you think the sales numbers are terrible but its do to bad advertising. most people don't even know the titan exist.
Kinda like the GM trucks did from 2011 to 2013 with that crappy Active Fuel Management?
I test drove the big 3 trucks plus the Titan when I bought my Titan Pro4X in March, 2020. I don’t experience the issues you described with throttle response, so I assume it was an issue with the truck you tested. Comparably equipped, the sticker price for the Loaded Titan Pro 4x was cheaper than Ford and Ram, plus Nissan provided much bigger discounts off sticker. The Chevy and Nissan were close in price, but I liked the Titan interior, overall exterior appearance, and drive better. I liked the Ram a lot, but the out the door price would have been over $10K more for the Ram. Ford is simply overpriced for what you get and reliant on a lot of customer loyalty, in my opinion. I think the Titan is the best value 1/2 ton truck in the higher end models like the loaded Pro4X or Platinum Reserve…. assuming you don’t need a ton of towing or heavier duty capacity.
If u turn off the traction control it will help with the lag.
Hill start assist- holds breaks for up to 2 seconds to prevent roll back. This is explained in the manual as well as how to disable this feature..Dude, R.T.F.M. before trashing the truck for doing what it is supposed to do i.e. keep your Titan hating as* from accidentally backing over one of your precious F-150.
The 2020 F150 v8 (Gen. 3) eating oil problem brought me here. I own a 16" GT Mustang (Gen. 2 v8) NO ISSUES. I need a heavier hauler to replace my 06" Xterra with 186k miles. No ISSUES or problems with it. I think I will buy the Titan. Side note: My 1st car was a grass green 73" Datsun 510 4-dr that we installed 1800SSS engine & 5-sp. I miss him today.
Very glad you expressed clearly your opinion about this outclassed and outdated pickup! It makes absolutely no sense to me that Nissan is trying to sell at same MSRPs at their competition (and without incentives). The only way Nissan could generate any decent sales would be by discounting it like it does with the Frontier and lowering the starting prices by $15k-$20k (Canadian market). The profit margins are huge on pickup trucks and Nissan has literally no complexity costs so it can still make decent returns on them.
It's really hard to compete with the American brands on pickup trucks, I'm always baffled by how deep the discounts are on those trucks. We have a video coming out on Friday on a 2020 F-450 XLT, at the time of filming it Ford was offering $11,000 CAD off the MSRP, a 2019 Nissan Titan is still listed for full MSRP.
Very strange, Ive seen a couple of POV reviews nobody has ever mentioned a delay in power delivery, nor does it look like there is one, never read anything about it
We've had a number of people comment to say they have this same problem. Re-watch those POV videos, do they come to a full, legal stop when they reach a stop sign? Or do they just roll through them like 99% of bad drivers?
You are wrong, this truck is much better than you are saying. Go get a Ford then, and leave it behind…. Many would love to have that truck.
I think the delay may be for traction control. Try with it off.
People from Canada are a different breed. I own this truck and it is excellent. This review is from a Canadian Kevin. It's a shame the Nissan Titan didn't take off. It's not the truck but the marketing and the unstable financial situation that caused the demise of this gem of a truck.
By the way Fords, Chevys, and dodges have the same hesitation when accelerating. It is engineered into the software to protect the drivetrain.
I've driven countless Silverados, Sierras, F-150s, and RAM 1500s, never had this happen until this specific truck.
I like your videos
I appreciate that, thank you!
Titan is so underrated. Not the best at anyone thing but it’s good at everything.
I have a 2020 Titan SV and almost got plowed into because of 3 second throttle response lag as of today. Not to mention there is a factory recall on the rear brakes. Looking to trade this in an cut my loses.
I don’t know why people hate on my experiences so much, you’re not the first owners to report the same issues. I’m currently driving a 2022 Infiniti QX60 and am noticing the same throttle delay as I did with the Titan. It isn’t quite as severe but there is a lag at stop signs or traffic lights.
Did you ever get the throttle delay looked at? Notice the same in my 2023 that I've had for 3 weeks
You say buy a ford? Lol. I had two fords and had nothing but problems and recalls with them. The most annoying being not able to unlock the truck in cold temperatures. My last one also had some clunking noise which sounded like a heat shield being loose, but that wasn’t the case. The dealer never was able to figure that out. I’ve got a 2021 Nissan Titan pro 4x that I love.
Technically I say buy literally anything other than this if we want to get specific.
You have no idea what you are talking about.
14:06 putting it in 4H on dry pavement, turning the wheel and jumping on the throttle told me everything I needed to know about this guy. Everyone is entitled to their opinion of course, but I think that's the first time I've witnessed a 'test' of that sort on any truck review.
I rent a ton of cars, have driven all trims of f150, ram Rebel (which was really nice, my only gripe is the volume-knob transmission control), test drove some sierra 1500 trims, and I drive Ford's for work; I test drove one of these and was sold. It does feel like 1st gear is really low but responsiveness is definitely not an issue with mine. I owned an '05 with no issues, had been shopping Ford and my '14 F150 3.5 eco broke down on me again (3rd throttle body) on my way to the dealership; seemed like a bad omen. The fords feel light from the driver's seat, like a truck-shaped SUV. Titan still has that solid truck feel.
Oh you're right, 100% of the time you need to go from a complete stop your tires are always going to be at 0º, every single time. The previous 2 standstill starts I did were at straight intersections and produced the exact same results.
@@PRNTestDrive Go learn about differentials and the difference between 4x4 and AWD. The previous two weren't in 4H. It's ridiculous to think that I am suggesting you would always start in a straight line; ALMOST as ridiculous as launching in 4x4 with the wheels turned so you bind up the axels expecting it to launch harder.
I also didn't LAUNCH the truck where you claim I did.
The titan is not a bad half ton truck, personally think it competes very well with the american made half tons, and its sad to see it not sell well. Edit: Maybe it doesn't compete as well on the luxury end, but for the doublecab and crewcab base models it competes extremely well (s and sl trims) which is what most would buy anyways. Infiniti makes worse luxury vehicles than chevy does, and GM has two luxury brands above chevy, so if nissan has to make vehicles with even less luxury than their infiniti counterparts, than you really do have rental car quality even in the highest trim.
The titan xd on the other hand is a complete waste of money and resources and nissan needed to kill it off entirely. It just doesn't compete with other 3/4th ton trucks. In its max payload form it has lower payload than an F150, it just barely beats the silverado and ram 1500 in payload. For a gas powered 3/4th ton truck its payload should be 3500lbs. It would be a contractors dream if it could have the same payload as the american 3/4th tons. Doesn't need to tow more than the 11,900lbs its rated for. But in the meantime Nissan is dumping valuable RnD into the XD and the regular titan is suffering for it.
Edit: the transmission at least for american made titans is an inhouse nissan design. Maybe the canadian version is using a mercedes transmission but just figured id throw that out there. Also that is 100% a throttle and ECU programming issue.
Strangely the only Titans I’ve seen on the road here since I picked this one up we’re XDs. I consider the XD to be a 5/8ths tonne truck, it’s not as capable of a proper three quarter tonne, but it’s a bit more capable than a typical half tonne.
@@PRNTestDrive Edited the origional comment right as you responded, rip. Anyways the XD is just a 3/4th ton truck from the mid 2000s. Like engine, payload, towing ratings, all mid 2000s. I mean towing wise it competes with the RAM HD's from 2018 that had the 5.7 under the hood (still destroyed in payload tho) Seriously though, go look at half ton ratings from a 2008 2500 or f250, then look at the ratings on the XD. It is not a 5/8th ton truck, nissan just calls it that because they can't make a truck to compete with the rest. If nissan really wanted to bring the fight in the 3/4th ton, they would need to just steal the 6.7 cummins and throw a 6 speed on it (Since the regular 850lb-ft of torque engine is not ram exclusive), and get the payload to at least 3200lbs with the gas and 2700 with the diesel, and to get the tow rating with the diesel up to like 16-17k. If they did that then the titan xd would deserve to exist, but currently it is just outclassed by american half tons, especially the ford f150, which you can get with a 3.5 ecoboost, crew cab, 3000lbs of payload and 11,000lbs of towing
I have a 2017 Pro4X and my tailgate locks with the fob or keyless entry? Not really sure why you are the only reviewer who hasn’t given this a decent review? Your delay comment....really 4 times? Honestly, you put allot of words in people’s mouths? Sorry, this was t a review but more of a stats update on sales?
I like that I don’t see one on every corner. Fords are rental cars and they feel like it. Ram, maybe? Never a Ford.
Good luck with your channel, but this wasn’t a good bias review but a personal opinion.
You know a review is a personal opinion right? That’s the entire point of it, if not people would just rely on the specs on the manufacturers website and nothing else. Here’s the bottom line, any vehicle you buy is meant to go forward when you push the gas pedal, this one didn’t. That’s a problem, so much so that it completely ruined the experience for me and was the first time I ever drove a press car and purposely left it at home and chose something else to drive, and I’ve driven about 250 cars in the past 5 years.
Everything else about this truck was fine, not great, but average. You bought one, great. It seems like you feel my video was a personal attack against you as we’ve heard from a number of other Titan owners in the comments so far and no one has gotten upset like you. Here’s some personal advice from me to you: go enjoy your Titan. Don’t go looking for reviews of it to try and reaffirm your purchase decision. If you like it, that’s all that should matter to you.
Bought a 2021 pro4x . Nissan family, fit and finish, 5 year warranty, reliability...Only truck on market with a real power steering pump. Not electric steering. Feels like what a truck is sappose to feel like. My opinion can't go wrong. Fords are underpowered. Turbo 6.. heat does wonders to a motor..Chevy is unreliable n is far more known motor issues..
Been there done that .
I’m buying a 2024. Sold on the v8, column shifter and no turbo. Also about $20k less than similar F150.
Good luck. You're gonna need it!