Thanks for the review. I ordered a set for my F800GS Adventure for the same reason you did...I got a flat about 30 miles from home and had to do a roadside repair. That was the second flat I've had with tubes and want to be able to plug and go if it happens again. I'm still waiting on mine, but should arrive in the next few weeks. Good to hear about the redesigned seals and that they stand behind their product. Can't wait to get them!
I went on a trip with my brother this weekend, he picked up a screw with his front tire just before we left. He has a Versys 1000 (so tubeless tires) and plugging that tire took all of 10 minutes. We both always carry our repair kits, and I really enjoy the peace of mind that comes with it. There's a stretch of road of about 200km that only has one gas station in the middle...you don't want to be caught with a flat tire in that area, with no center stand, no cell phone network...tube tires should only exist on dirt bikes and tractors.
Nice review, thank you! I too have Alpina wheels on my 2016 DCT. I loved them at first, but , after 3 years they started leaking through multiple spokes. I thought I was out of luck and on my own, but decided to reach out to Karl at King Wheels. To my surprise, Karl told me that Alpina will send a full set of new updated spokes and nipples free of charge. He said Alpina had problems with that initial design and the updated version should take care of it. All arrived, as promised. All I have to do is spend some time in the garage to return the wheels to their initial greatness:). So, I join you in saying that Alpina stands behind their product and Karl is top notch in communicating and delivering on promises. I was worried at first, but now I feel that I am not on my own even though myself, the dealer, and the manufacturer are all in different countries. Cheers
Not sure of the designation. These are still with just one O-ring, but with a shorter body. They did solve the problem. As I was told, these are the updated version for the old rim. The newer rims are much thicker. The corresponding new nipples have two O-rings. The outer O-ring provides clean zone for the inner.
@@asirrus2 Did you get the new spokes and nipples installed? How was that job? Installing new spokes sounds like a LOT of work, and getting the rim true again sounds very non-trivial. Did it go ok?
One more question are they tubless? or you have to use the kit (not that it matters but worth to know) also are they cush drive? Do they come with all bearing if cush drive will I use stock rear cush or it comes with new one?
They are indeed tubeless, one of the biggest reasons to switch to these rims. If I remember well they do come with bearings, but you need to use the cush drive from the stock rear wheel. All you need is either on the new rims or you just swap them from the OEM ones (like rotors, cush drive).
@MadeiraOnWheels Yep, about 20000km on them and they hold air like any oem wheel. Even the anodized finish held up perfectly and I do a lot of gravel roads.
@@SpeedytripThat's good to know that they have handled well the kms with no leaks. My ATAS for sure would love tubless rims. They look well built and beautiful. Hope to see more videos of your Africa Twin. Meanwhile join my channel. I share some videos of my weekend rides on Madeira Island. Happy New Year.
You’re welcome! The lip helps hold the tire in place if you had a flat and lost pressure for example. The stock rear rim has one, the front doesn’t. Many use the Outex tape without issues, but I ride with my gf on the back regularly and didn’t want to compromise safety, specially on the front wheel.
@@Speedytrip Hi, thanks for the prompt reply. My other question is that if I convert the rear rim into tubeless and in the event of a puncture, it will be a slow leak and the tyre will remain seated in the bead because the rim has a safety bead. How about the front? If converted into tubeless and without the safety bead, in the event of the puncture, will it be a rapid and sudden deflation of the tire potentially causing accident? How about Alpina front & rear? Do they have the "lip" the safety bead.
@@HeartsRain I couldn't tell what would happen if the front OEM wheel deflated all of a sudden...all I know is the rim is not intentionnaly designed to be tubeless. The Alpinas are designed specifically for that purpose. They have a lip front and back and if anything I trust those rims more than the OEM ones. Feel free to contact them directly if you have any questions about their rims (they usually reply very quickly) and there's a 5% discount code in the description if you ever decided to take that route :)
@@HeartsRain About 12000km so far, and I have nothing but good things to say about them, they still look like new (and I ride a lot of gravel roads), they've kept their air pressure and as a bonus, I have less front end bounce (due to combination of suspensions and OEM front wheel that wasn't perfectly round). I think its my favorite upgrade on the bike so far. Now I can just carry a tiny repair kit with CO2 cartridges, and know that if I have a flat tire, I can just fix it on the side of the road in under 5 minutes. Tube tires should really be a thing of the past.
Yep it is expensive, but after having a flat tire on my DR650, I can tell you it's worth every penny to be up and running in under 10 minutes, vs taking wheel off, tire off, finding hole, patching, putting everything back in while hoping you didn't pinch the tube during install :)
I had a front tube let go on my 800XC at 70mph. I don't want to go through that with my new '23 V-Strom 800DE. How are they holding up? Any corrosion or leaks?
I sold the bike a year later but they still looked like new and a year later new owner was still over the moon with the bike so they are probably still like new ;) Tube tires can be super dangerous as theres no safety bead to help keep the tire in place on tube blowouts…
Thanks for the review. I ordered a set for my F800GS Adventure for the same reason you did...I got a flat about 30 miles from home and had to do a roadside repair. That was the second flat I've had with tubes and want to be able to plug and go if it happens again. I'm still waiting on mine, but should arrive in the next few weeks. Good to hear about the redesigned seals and that they stand behind their product. Can't wait to get them!
I went on a trip with my brother this weekend, he picked up a screw with his front tire just before we left. He has a Versys 1000 (so tubeless tires) and plugging that tire took all of 10 minutes. We both always carry our repair kits, and I really enjoy the peace of mind that comes with it. There's a stretch of road of about 200km that only has one gas station in the middle...you don't want to be caught with a flat tire in that area, with no center stand, no cell phone network...tube tires should only exist on dirt bikes and tractors.
Nice review, thank you!
I too have Alpina wheels on my 2016 DCT. I loved them at first, but , after 3 years they started leaking through multiple spokes. I thought I was out of luck and on my own, but decided to reach out to Karl at King Wheels.
To my surprise, Karl told me that Alpina will send a full set of new updated spokes and nipples free of charge. He said Alpina had problems with that initial design and the updated version should take care of it.
All arrived, as promised. All I have to do is spend some time in the garage to return the wheels to their initial greatness:).
So, I join you in saying that Alpina stands behind their product and Karl is top notch in communicating and delivering on promises. I was worried at first, but now I feel that I am not on my own even though myself, the dealer, and the manufacturer are all in different countries.
Cheers
Thanks for sharing your experience, and wishing you can enjoy the wheels many more years! :)
Thanks, and how is it now? Is it the New STS2?
Not sure of the designation. These are still with just one O-ring, but with a shorter body. They did solve the problem. As I was told, these are the updated version for the old rim.
The newer rims are much thicker. The corresponding new nipples have two O-rings. The outer O-ring provides clean zone for the inner.
@@asirrus2 Thanks for sharing the info!
@@asirrus2 Did you get the new spokes and nipples installed? How was that job? Installing new spokes sounds like a LOT of work, and getting the rim true again sounds very non-trivial. Did it go ok?
Good info thanks for the review
One more question are they tubless? or you have to use the kit (not that it matters but worth to know) also are they cush drive? Do they come with all bearing if cush drive will I use stock rear cush or it comes with new one?
They are indeed tubeless, one of the biggest reasons to switch to these rims. If I remember well they do come with bearings, but you need to use the cush drive from the stock rear wheel. All you need is either on the new rims or you just swap them from the OEM ones (like rotors, cush drive).
@@Speedytrip Thank-you for prompt replay 👍
They are on my wishlist for my Honda Africa Twin Adventure Sports DCT 2018.
But Santa Claus couldn't offer me...
Are they holding up well?
@MadeiraOnWheels Yep, about 20000km on them and they hold air like any oem wheel. Even the anodized finish held up perfectly and I do a lot of gravel roads.
@@SpeedytripThat's good to know that they have handled well the kms with no leaks.
My ATAS for sure would love tubless rims.
They look well built and beautiful.
Hope to see more videos of your Africa Twin.
Meanwhile join my channel. I share some videos of my weekend rides on Madeira Island.
Happy New Year.
hi thanks for the video. nicely done. Could you pls explain a little more about the front wheel "lip"? Don't quite understand. Thank you.
You’re welcome! The lip helps hold the tire in place if you had a flat and lost pressure for example. The stock rear rim has one, the front doesn’t. Many use the Outex tape without issues, but I ride with my gf on the back regularly and didn’t want to compromise safety, specially on the front wheel.
@@Speedytrip Hi, thanks for the prompt reply. My other question is that if I convert the rear rim into tubeless and in the event of a puncture, it will be a slow leak and the tyre will remain seated in the bead because the rim has a safety bead. How about the front? If converted into tubeless and without the safety bead, in the event of the puncture, will it be a rapid and sudden deflation of the tire potentially causing accident? How about Alpina front & rear? Do they have the "lip" the safety bead.
@@HeartsRain I couldn't tell what would happen if the front OEM wheel deflated all of a sudden...all I know is the rim is not intentionnaly designed to be tubeless. The Alpinas are designed specifically for that purpose. They have a lip front and back and if anything I trust those rims more than the OEM ones. Feel free to contact them directly if you have any questions about their rims (they usually reply very quickly) and there's a 5% discount code in the description if you ever decided to take that route :)
@@Speedytrip ahh sure thanks for the information. How have your wheels held up? Any issues?
@@HeartsRain About 12000km so far, and I have nothing but good things to say about them, they still look like new (and I ride a lot of gravel roads), they've kept their air pressure and as a bonus, I have less front end bounce (due to combination of suspensions and OEM front wheel that wasn't perfectly round). I think its my favorite upgrade on the bike so far. Now I can just carry a tiny repair kit with CO2 cartridges, and know that if I have a flat tire, I can just fix it on the side of the road in under 5 minutes. Tube tires should really be a thing of the past.
Wow, adding shipping to Canada $2600 CDN
Yep it is expensive, but after having a flat tire on my DR650, I can tell you it's worth every penny to be up and running in under 10 minutes, vs taking wheel off, tire off, finding hole, patching, putting everything back in while hoping you didn't pinch the tube during install :)
nice video gaby!!!!
I had a front tube let go on my 800XC at 70mph. I don't want to go through that with my new '23 V-Strom 800DE.
How are they holding up? Any corrosion or leaks?
I sold the bike a year later but they still looked like new and a year later new owner was still over the moon with the bike so they are probably still like new ;) Tube tires can be super dangerous as theres no safety bead to help keep the tire in place on tube blowouts…
Just tried the code it works
Thanks for watching, glad it helped :)