Here’s the list of products reviewed. More details in the video description. Thank you! GearWrench: amzn.to/3Oz4mfZ Wera: amzn.to/3KDQqQE Milwaukee: amzn.to/3KG8MAi Stanley: amzn.to/3ORPACa Klein Tools: amzn.to/3KDk0pg MichaelPro: amzn.to/45vw5VL Nocry: amzn.to/3DWfVce SATA: amzn.to/45vwiZ3 Stahlwille: amzn.to/3QBAi5O PB Swiss: LTT: Available at the LTT Website/Store Matco Tools: Available at the Matco Tools Store Snap On: Available at the Snap On Website/Store
Please don’t sell out. Keep to your reputation of being fair. 15:12 “Which is a lot more torque then you’ll probably need for a P.C. build” - Making excuses for it when this could be true for all of them. 15:38 “Definitely not a tool made for rugged use” - A more appropriate comment for the LTT one as well. Then leaving out the first thought of anyone buying a screw driver from the results grid (i.e. is it tough/strong enough). Likely only to get the LTT one up to #3. Really makes this one feel like a LTT Paid promotion.
@@DietBajaBlast Lol, I think you're the one that's not being fair. Negative remark toward LTT: That's a valid opinion. Positive remark toward LTT: That's bias. 🤣🤣They just got 3rd place because that's the spot they earned.
I am continually amazed by this man’s ability to put 25 minutes worth of information into a 17 minute video, all without skipping or missing anything. Thank you for the valuable service you provide to the DIY community!
@@JETHO321Yup, the only creator I am not using my 2x speed up. (but I will use 1.5x when I am in peak condition, and on other content creators I then use browser extension for 3x speed)
No idea what half of this stuff is, but enjoy watching regardless :) you manage to fit around half an hour of info it’s around 15 minutes, without an insane amount of ads!
@@Surms41 Weird channel "about" section. It has "Don't message me asking questions about the channel" but also a "Business inquiries" link and a site link. Seems shady from the start. Just going to assume it's a good idea not to get involved with whatever is going on there.
No nonsense, non biased testing makes this channel one of the best test reviews on here. So happy LTT stumpy got a fair test, it takes a lot to build commercial products these days.
@@TargetSurvival It has something to do with your comment regarding how hard it is to build a product. But hey if you would rather stick your head up your ass and forget things like this go ahead
I don't even care about half of the things tested on this channel but it's just such a joy to watch. I did buy a few things based on these reviews and I am really thankful for all the work you are doing. This kind of honest and unbiased content is hard to find. Not to mention the creativity and the presentation. Love this channel!!
Suggested tool to test: Snap ring pliers. So many ways they fail to get the ring out or hold it without flinging it into your face, across the shop/yard, or off into a different dimension entirely.
LTT screwdrivers are quite consistent it would appear - often in the top of the pack, not expensive compared to better performing tools, but indeed a bit pricey for many people who doesn't need a screwdriver everyday. They definitely have a great "prosumer" niche nailed down. Thank you, Todd, for carrying out all these tests for us to refer to!
I think they are made by megapro. I bought one way before LTT started to rebrand them and I swear to god it's the only tool that I've genuinely been surprised how well it was designed. I probably put 15,000 hours of use on that little red fucker and it's still going strong lol
@griffinmackenzie6364 iirc LTT has been very transparent that they used patented ratchet and bit holder designs from Megapro, but LTT did made lots of changes to achieve their desired ratchet feel, e.g. the low ratchet back drag. Definitely great for low force and more delicate applications like electronics assembly and disassembly (duh), but yeah the original Megapro should be much better for heavy jobs (not to mention the LTT upcharge) - although it looks like the only way to get a Megapro-style ratcheting stubby at the moment is the LTT Stubby.
@griffinmackenzie6364 LTT licensed the Mega pro patent and improved upon it themselves through engineering. It wouldn't have taken them 3 years of development time to simply rebrand a megapro
@@one-six952 The also had it re-engineered to have the selector switch work the opposite of the direction megapro does. As that not only makes sense, it matches the direction of the Snapon Selector switch Linus used before this.
Suggested video: Compare radiator coolant additives, claiming to decrease temperature by 25F degrees: Red Line -Water wetter, Royal Purple - Purple Ice, RISLONE - Super coolant, VP racing - cool down, Mishimoto - Liquid Chill.
As an Engineer I very much appreciate not only the testing, but the recap at the end to allow me to prioritise the aspects that are truly important for my line of work. Keep up the good work!
I dunno, it's weird, we use grams and millimeters but you can get that celsius stuff away from me. 0 is water freezing and 40 is unbearable heat? get some more units there buddy. milimeters though? sexy, I can't quit.
Can we just take a moment to appreciate just how many comments this gentleman takes the time to reply to. Not many channels have this level of content creator involvement. Many thanks from Scotland.
I absolutely love these videos, and you know why? Because they’re not just tests done with stupid music on-screen with very little commentary, but there’s so much love, soul and joy put into them. I’m visually impaired so the amount of dialog really helps, where other channels might just throw Uber-pretty graphs on-screen and call it a day, don’t bother to paint the back side of the fence, go that extra mile but not this channel. I recommend content like this to friends of mine due to the amazing format, which is just so engaging. Thank you for your great work. Please, never change.
Hey Todd, I wanted to shoot you a quick thank you for all the awesome reviews and tests you put together. Your channel's been a solid guide for me, and I'm always stoked to discover your top picks and actually buy stuff based on your recommendations. Now, I've got a little suggestion that I thought could be pretty neat. How about tossing in some timecodes to split your videos into chapters? It'd be super handy for all of us viewers to jump straight to the parts we're most interested in. Plus, this move could give your SEO a boost. So, when someone Googles a review for a specific product, your video's chapter could pop up, matching their search and making them more likely to click. To make things even smoother for you, I've gone ahead and whipped up a sample timecode for this video. You can just copy and paste this baby into your description, and bam! Instant chapters on your progress bar. Just remember, kick off each new chapter with 0:00. Timecodes: 0:00 - Introduction 0:10 - Test 1 - Optimal Performance Evaluation of Arch Swing 0:14 - Test 2 - Assessment of Build Quality Variation 0:16 - Product Overview - Stanley Control-Grip Stubby Ratcheting Screwdriver 0:53 - Product Overview - MichaelPro Stubby Ratchet Screwdriver 1:20 - Product Overview - NoCry Stubby Ratcheting Screwdriver Kit 1:42 - Product Overview - SATA 6-Piece Stubby Ratcheting Screwdriver Set 2:08 - Product Overview - Klein Tools 32593 Multi-bit Ratcheting Screwdriver 2:29 - Product Overview - Milwaukee 48-22-2320 Compact Ratcheting Multi-Bit Driver 2:49 - Product Overview - Stahlwille 18120002 Ratcheting Screwdriver Bit Holder No. 4008 3:13 - Product Overview - Wera Kraftform Stubby Magazin RA 3 Bithold Screwdriver Magazine 3:30 - Product Overview - LTT Stubby Screwdriver 3:57 - Product Overview - Matco Tools 4-piece Stubby Ratcheting Screwdriver Set SRSS04 4:22 - Product Overview - GEARWRENCH 40 Pc. Ratcheting Screwdriver Set - 8940 4:47 - Product Overview - PB Swiss Tools PB 8453 R-30 Insider Stubby Ratchet - Pocket Tool 5:10 - Product Overview - Snap-on SGDMRC11A Ratcheting Soft Grip Stubby Screwdriver (Red) 5:44 - Analysis Chart - Right-Left Passes in 360 Degrees Within 50 Degree Space 5:56 - Test - Comparison of Screwdriver Lengths 6:05 - Analysis Chart - Screwdriver Length Comparison 6:07 - Test - Back Drag Comparison 7:28 - Analysis Chart - Ratchet Back Drag Comparison 7:37 - Test - Magnetism Assessments 8:32 - Analysis Chart - Magnetic Strength Through Factory Bit 8:42 - Test - Side-to-Side Shaft Wobbling Test 9:45 - Analysis Chart - Side-to-Side Shaft Wobble (inches) 9:55 - Test - Bit Retention Strength Analysis 10:57 - Analysis Chart - Bit Retention Strength Assessment 11:07 - Test - Degree of Rotation in Locked Position 12:02 - Analysis Chart - Degree of Rotation in Locked Position 12:12 - Test - No. 2 Bit Failure Experiment 13:48 - Analysis Chart - Bit Tip Failure Load 13:59 - Test - Screwdriver Torque Evaluation 15:51 - Analysis Chart - Total Score and Conclusion
How about trying two remove bits with greasy hands I know that's not very technical but that's a pain in the ass if the magnet is too strong. It's quite frustrating to be honest. What's your opinion.
@@anuragchandra8283 Yeah the bit retention is a balancing act imho. I don't want it falling out all the time, especially when I have my hand deep into a piece of equipment, but I don't value an extremely strong magnetic bit holder, either.
Anytime I'm shopping for a new tool, I always watch this channel first to see if it has been tested. Thank you so much for what you do for the community! 👏
I'm always genuinely impressed by the design focus with the LTT screwdrivers. The backdrag makes them ideal for really fiddly fine threaded fasteners with enough strength to be practical in any reasonable use. If I had to put this much torque on a philips screw I'd probably already have pulled out the drill or an impact driver lol.
Great point! I didn't plan it this way. Testing was finished and editing completed on Monday. I worked through the weekend to finish this review before the planned screwdriver release this past Thursday. Thanks again!
I joined this channel when i saw your awesome video about which Epoxy was better on plastic 5 whole years ago. Since then it's been amazing to watch you grow so much and watch your audience appreciate your style. Thank you again for all your bring to this platform, and thank you above all else for your honesty!
For me it was the drywall anchor test from a few years back. I took his conclusions and have never had a shelf fall in my kitchen, even with incredibly heavy Fiesta Ware plates and bowls.
Honestly, at $14 the No Cry is a great value from a back drag perspective being so close to the $70 GearWrench, and the $30 Stahwille with its fairly strong magnet and still fairly low backdrag is a close second in value in my mind, especially if you have your own bits handy and would otherwise be ok with no onboard storage
@@garymccreath2773 Not sure who the OEM is for that one, but the same tools (with slightly varying styling) are sold by a number of brands. I happen to have a Bahco branded one, but would not recommend it. There‘s nothing particularly wrong with it, but the ratchet isn’t all that precise, mediocre back drag and it has a fair bit of shaft wobble. The toothless ratchets made by Oplast (sold under Hazet, Gedore and some other brands in different configurations) are just better and similarly priced.
Thank you sir. The Husky seems pretty decent for the price. I am really glad to see these different options. A stubby is an occasional tool, but i believe you want a solid one when those times come.
Thanks for the test, Todd! I have both the standard size PB Swiss and LTT ratcheting screwdriver; while both are great, I like the PB Swiss more - the bits are much superior in durability (normal use, not near failure), the handle material is MUCH better as it gives more grip rather than the sleek and slippery design of LTT, and it is more ergonomic. You got to give to the Swiss. They make great tools.
Everything Swiss made I've seen has been quality. I just bought a Swiss designed laptop backpack. They're more expensive but you can see they are very detail oriented and have a 10 year warranty far surpassing most others at around the $100 price point.
This was always one of my son's favorite channels. He introduced me to it quite a while back. I still love to watch it. Really appreciate the attention to detail and the entertainment value. I've made a lot of purchace decisions based off of your videos. So far I've been happy with them all. Thank you for everything you do!
This channel has become a go to for me. I’m always trying out different types of mechanics hand soaps/towels. If you ever test them, that will be the end all be all for me. Keep up the good work!
Can we get a test of the LTT screwdriver with a flathead bit, being used to drive in a Philips screw? I know some people would say "hey that's not fair" but what are you to do? Spend, $100, $200, $300 or even $500 to do the test properly?
Thank you for the work that you do. I always check to see if you've got a video on an item I'm considering. Would be great to see you test knee pads/kneeling mats. Durability, ability to be supportive (not just a squishy mat that doesn't actually help) ability for pad to stay in place, grip with the ground etc.
Hi "Project Farm", old retired Navy Veteran who has his own "project farm" to support. Again, thank you for your honesty, your humility, your integrity, and your dedication to helping fellow DIY's. Your test results are very practical and useful especially for people on a (limited) budget; they reflect issues that most of DIYers face especially the ones dealing with self-employment (like farmers, small shop owners, ...). It means a lot to us (the "little people"). I have subscribed to "Consumer's Reports" for over 40 years and their testing is good/accurate but your reviews are more "practical" and you do not hesitate to "call a cat, a cat" i.e. you actually rate/publish (number-wise) your results (something similar to the "Torque Test Channel"). Thank you for saving your viewers pain, frustration(s) and... money. Ciao, L (Morningside & Starshine Farms Inc.)
A major challenge with Consumer Reports is its bias toward environmentalism. Their reviews for the same products often vary drastically by year. I stopped subscribing for those reasons. I do respect their commitment, however.
@@dad1432 Hi Dad1432, I fully agree with you. CR's methodology is excellent but they have introduced the "greenie" bias in their philosophy of testing which introduces a "government-supported" bias. The other issue I see/read is the lack of actual result numbers on the testing of their products (as opposed to Project Farm, Torque Test Channel, ...). This makes it harder for people like me to be able to reproduce their results or make better "informed" decisions in my product purchases. Ciao, L
@@dad1432 - CR lost me when I noticed that they rarely tested for endurance when doing their ratings. I want things that last, not ones that work for 18 months then need to be replaced.
Therexxx- Yes, in the 70's I had a cheapo set with a loose black vinyl grip over yellow plastic handle. That stubby was useless except as a probe of the screw slot😅
A lot of conditions to test out. With gloves / without gloves the material of the gloves. Oiled or dusty/dirty. I'm curious about how some of these handle being in dusty environments.
@ProjectFarm I think a quick rating on size should have been added into the final value. Some of those are too long and there is nothing you can do if they don't fit. The REAL stubby ones can work in close and you can use an extension if needed. Matko, gearwrench and Snapon seem too long.
I’m just so impressed with how well the Milwaukee screwdriver did considering it’s price. Made me happy about my purchase a few years ago! 😊 Still going strong as well! 👍🏽
Todd, I always enjoy your testing methods. You design them to bring out the worst flaws. I first started watching your videos when you destroyed lawnmowers. It saved me from having to break them myself. Keep up the great videos.
Personal preference comes into play heavily on these for me. I actually prefer ones that don't have bit storage in the handle. Usually when I'm using one of these it is with my finger tips in a tight spot. A smaller profile handle suits me better because of that.
I don't like the rotate-to-change-direction feature, though i own a couple. I think i would strongly prefer the mechanism on the NoCry. It seems like that is much easier to use one handed, with less room for confusion about what it means - push towards the screw to screw it in, pull back to screw out. Thanks for the video. Great work as always.
Once you've used them for a while, you remember which way to turn them. I have the milwaukee, and the rotate is opposite of the full size screwdriver annoyingly. More important is that it's way easier to accidentally move collar while using the stubby. The full size I have no issues, but with the stubby I accidentally turn the collar way too often.
As someone with the larger LTT screwdriver, it’s very easy to switch positions one handed. I’ve been shocked how much I use and love the big ratchet driver.
I'm surprised if all the local tool trucks don't already stop by your house, they're missing out on quite a few sales for this channel! Awesome video as usual!
Thanks for testing all these out. For tool testing, I feel it's important to show all the different categories like this since what a particular user cares about will really depend. For some jobs, back drag is critical. For others jobs it barely matters at all. Similar for if you care about locked position performance. etc
It'd be cool to see on the graph what you consider acceptable values for each/some criteria. For example, with bit retention strength low values are bad but values that are too high are as well, so some form of color coding on the graph to see what you think is the best range would bring those abstract numbers more into context. EDIT: oh, and metric units for those of us that don't speak freedom units :)
I don't know how to explain it, but this channel is the perfect tool review channel. It gets straight to the point, seems non-bias, no unnececary monologues defending brands or poor results on favorites etc. The way the videos are formattet, it gets straight to the point, but still has enough personality and flair to keep both a teenager and grandpa engaged throughout.
Very impressive. Thank you i really needed this comparison right now. Most of these are totally fine. But the PB Swiss suits my needs perfectly since losing screws is always annoying.
Very nice to see the LTT driver doing what it was intended for well. This video helps make the price make sense since the higher ranked ones are also more expensive. The locked position rotation and bit retention were a tad disappointing. Maybe they can fix that up in revisions.
The rotation at the locked position is kind of misleading as the measurements are taken so far away to get a better idea between all of them. Any that did not make it past 1 inch in that test is great in my opinion. I have the original LTT driver along with many other ratcheting tools. The bit storage, magnet, ratchet and ergonomics is what makes it for me. It is expensive yes but no other driver I have tried comes close. All other options I can think of that would be second would have a extremely poor magnet and far worse ratchet.
Another great video! It would be great to see a revisit to your impact driver video. Both dewalt and Milwaukee have come out with several new drivers since then and it would be interesting to see how they work! I’d be really interested to see how the Milwaukee surge would stand up. I particularly like how it starts to impact much earlier with soft impacts that help keep you from caming out in screws.
I would have liked to have seen the Doyle version from harbor freight included. I really like the improvements HF has made to their tools over the last few years.
HF has had a number of 'good' tool reviews on occasion the last couple years. They can spec quality at least up to anyone else, if they want to pay for that level and take the hit on profit. They rarely do, though recently they seem to be pricing a lot of stuff a bit higher with less jankiness looking internals. Gotta watch for the bait and switch where AvE or someone does a teardown and finds its good quality similar to on of the other top names, and then once a run starts on them and their rep get passed by word of mouth, they swap in a different SKU model that looks the same but is value engineered lower for higher profit.
@@ChuckThree, Project Farm actually did get a bunch of criticism for the recent review of equipment for "welding" plastic where many commenters felt that Todd really needed to spend more time learning how to use the devices to their best ability, and also "matching the hatch" with the correct type of plastic welding rods to the type of plastic being repaired. It was the only time I've seen any major criticisms of his product testing.
Project Farm is the kinda guy where if I made a screwdriver, I would trust him with the priceless prototype. That's more than I can say about a certain other UA-cam testing lab.
@PuerRidcully are they though? Complacent maybe.... stuck in what they thought was an echo chamber maybe...... pretentious? Depending on how you slice the categories they are either 2nd or 3rd biggest tech channel.. they are the opposite of pretentious or the reaction wouldn't of been rushed into a forum... don't be stupid. 😂 my dude said pretentious.. get off the band wagon and make up your own mind 😂
If you test ratcheting screwdrivers again I would love to see a drop test get added in! I switched to the milwaukee screwdrivers purely because the bitholder can't break when dropped. Had a dewalt one that exploded apart from a 5 ft drop 😥
Your review videos are just in a league of their own. You most likely help millions with choosing the right tools for their job (and budget) and very likely help to prevent work place accidents, not just choosing the best of the bunch. Your channel is just hidden gold dude. Keep it up! :) I bought the normal ltt driver only after watching your video to see if it was worth as i fix and build computer for friends and family often. I have never been happier with a tool and it really saves my hands from cuts and fatigue that happens during.
Regardless of the current controversy this was another great video and honest review of stuby screwdrivers. A review I’d like to see is on inflatable air wedge/jacks I recently picked up the rhino strong brand to help keep doors open but would like to see the others tested that are Amazon and see if I picked the right one or got caught in the market fluff.
@@mediocreman2 well the door stop I got didn’t work. The door spring was a bit strong and the floor was a bit too slick. so the door stop wouldn’t hold the door open so I used the air bag and it held it open.
Well, I've never used an air wedge as a door stop. I have however used Rhino's to install several upper kitchen cabinets. They are excellent, so don't worry that you may have been scammed. You didn't.
@@ST-0311 good to know. I had bought a wedge-it brand door stop and the rhino to see how they would work. the wedge-it didn't work it the door was either too heavy or the door spring was set too tight so if you looked at it wrong the thing would shut. The rhino worked were that item failed.
Would love to see you do some more tests on kitchen appliances and maybe even venture into cleaning products. I know there's plenty of people who already do those sorts of videos, but I enjoy your content and how thorough your tests are!
I don't think I'm your typical audience member but I've been watching your content for 4 years now and I felt like saying that I appreciate ur work a lot even if I'm not the target audience. I'm disabled and among various joint and lung issues, 4 years ago i started having daily migraines and your videos were the only ones I could watch for months. Still now, when I'm having a bad day or when my pain is flaring up I like to watch your content :) It's a big comfort for me and I appreciate how consistent you've been with your content, i hope you enjoy what you do and that your enjoyment never fades
Love these reviews and how much information you manage to fit into a relatively short video! One suggestion for future comparisons: you might want to consider aggregating the final scores based on relative performance, not rank, e.g., mapping the worst & best value to 0 and 10 respectively: if the highest weight you can lift with the magnet is 1kg and the lowest is 0, then a screwdriver lifting 750g would get a 7.5/10. This should make your overall ratings more fair in the plenty of cases where you might have a few competitors that all do similarly well in some categories
A suggestion on your final scoring: As it currently is, you only take into account the place a tool finished in. However, you don't take into account if the tool in place 1 was 10 times as good as the tool in place 2, or only marginally better. For example, the PB Swiss did almost twice as good as the second place in the bit retention strength, but that doesn't get reflected in the final score. Personally, I really like the spreadsheet that the torque test channel uses in their videos. This takes the actual values a tool scored, and then applies a weighting to get a final score. Personally I don't like the weighting (unless the spreadsheet is publicly available so people can change the weighting to their preferencers), since each person has a different need. One wants a tool with as little backdrag as possible, the other doesn't care one bit about backdrag, but it does provide a nice overview. This is also something that slightly bothers me about your videos. You put a lot of effort into these videos, but then don't make the things you found out readily available. Sure, I get that you want people to watch your entire video, but it would be very nice to have an overview table at the end of the video (again, like the torque test channel), where all the things you tested can be viewed at once. That would probably help people find the tool they need without having to skip through the video looking at the test results individually.
@@dru70292 Not sure if you actually use ratcheting screwdrivers; they're not typically used in applications that require a lot of torque. You will not break it like that in normal use.
@@YouPlagueThe main reason why I never liked bitted screwdrivers is because the bits often get pulled out too easily, remaining on the screw. It's also the reason why I shelled out for the PB Swiss, however I was disappointed with the heavy backdrag. After also not being too impressed by my Wera ratchet, I decided to try the LTT one and for the first time ever I'm actually really satisfied by a ratcheting screwdriver. I just wish it had the magnet strength of the PB Swiss.
Hey Todd, absolutely love your videos! Quick idea for taking out human error at the backdrag test: if you fit a small pipe over the hex-shaft for the part that lays on the middle platform, there will be less inconsistency/more accuracy with overcoming the bumps of the hex-shaft. The positions where you started varied from screwdriver to screwdriver, so the rotational position of the hex-shaft also varied/the horizontal distance to where the sting is attached to the weights. So some seem to have started on one of the 6 bumps, while other seem to have started on one of the flat sides and had to overcome the bump. I hope my attempt at explaining makes sense? I really love your videos and watch every single one! You always seem to find simple and efficient ways to take the human error factor out as much as possible. Kind regards
I think one of the most impressive wins for the LTT is the side to side wobble, less than half the slop of the snap-on, which costs more and is from a long established tool maker. Very impressive.
It's impressive don't get me wrong, coupled with everything else it's brilliant - but when it comes to ratcheting tools I've never found wobble/slop to be a significant indicator of anything straight out the box. They all end up the same way very very quickly. Now if LTT retained that tightness over a long period, I'd be super impressed and would make it my go to. But the larger LTT didn't hold up for me in that regard. My experience is they all end up just as wobbly as each other after a week of use, and if you need an exacting use, it might be best to see if you can use a non ratcheting tool. But it's definitely a very very good indicator of strong build quality in the LTT and its impressive that a company like LTT that doesn't (yet) specialise in tools has such high quality control
@@zakkazz1201 hmm good catch. I can see how it could've been an honest mistake as the shaft on the LTT is so short, but yeah it is the closest to the vice of all the products tested and you cannot see the light coming from behind the screwdriver in that gap as you can with the other products that were close to the vice.
@zakkazz1201 I also noticed that, but then I paid attention to other screwdrivers, some of them were locked similarly. I assume all of them were locked the best way it was possible... so geometry of shaft contributed into this particular test(so far the only test that was influenced by geometry). It is not excuse, just explanation attempt.
Great testing! Suggestion for your methodology: for all videos where you do force testing using a kitchen scale, it would really benefit to be replaced by a strain gauge and data logger. The problem with using the kitchen scale is that you can't measure pulling force, and that you are limited in the resolution of the data based on how frequently the scale updates its display. Using a force/strain gauge, you can invest in a handful of gauges that will be suitable for different ranges. They will be a lot more precise and repeatable, and allow you to use better testing jigs for measuring pull force directly. The data logger will significantly help your accuracy and precision. You can log at a high frequency through the whole test and then analyze the data afterwards to find the peak. You can even superimpose the strain data as a "live" plot when performing the test, as well as recording the screen on the data logger in the shot. A good general purpose data logger that can interface with strain gauges will be a huge addition to your testing toolbox and allow you to bring this channel to the next level. For the backdrag test in this video, using a hex key with a round over-molded handle will also improve your results by providing a much smoother and more uniform pivot surface on the shaft. I don't think it makes a big enough difference to change the results, but it felt odd watching the shafts turn against the flats on the hex. Looking forward to the next video! Best regards.
I thought the same thing in regards to the back drag test, though since they all started in the same position I’m not sure it would have affected anything.
Great testing, as usual. In the years watching your channel it's been cool watching what started as very solid testing mature into very well-considered and executed objective testing for such a wide range of products and capabilities. Kind of makes my think of this channel as being the Mythbusters of UA-cam - a simple concept ("Project Farm") that has grown into something so much more impressive and informative. "Very Impressive!" 😁
I love the sheer overall quality of the PB Swiss, but I think you're right - 'stubby' usecase would typically have you prioritize ergonomics and low backdrag, and the LTT stubby excels in those cathegories. (I'm disregarding the Snap On as an option due to lacking bit storage and a personal dislike of the design. Also, it somehow managed to make the LTT and PB Swiss look like good pricing in comparison. Only one bit included, lol.)
@@ProjectFarm it could be something along the lines of “do you really need to spend 600$ on a blade less fan or is this 15$ one good enough? Let’s find out!”
Fans would be interesting, both window and regular. Some window fans are absolutely atrocious in that they move next to no air and cost 45 bucks, it's crazy!!
Great test! I think some drop tests of the plastic handles would be informative, and the stability of the on board bit storage (open/close cycles) - that are more common hazards when ie. working with computers. :)
Hi Todd, Thanks for unbiased reviews of tools, equipment, and supplies we all use. Please consider testing pump and backpack sprayers. So many of the big box sprayers seem deficient on volume delivery. Let’s find out if that really is the case.
This, having to pull out pliers to change a bit really ruins the workflow, and sometimes you want to use your teeth because the dam thing is so stuck in there, it can be very frustrating
Yea, there is certainly a Goldilocks zone there. Not so weak that the bit falls out at random, but not so strong that you need to get a pair of pliers to remove them. But that, like everything else, is a bit subjective.
Have you considered applying "importance factors" to your charts at the end for scoring? That way, the tests that matter most get weighted more significantly than other nice-to-haves. Just a suggestion!
For this video, I was most interested in shaft wobble and back drag. Nothing else is useful to me, including the efficiency of the ratchet mechanism. What did everyone else find helpful?
He very explicitly does not do that for any test because what is important changes by the consumer. Some people, for some applications, will care about nothing more than back-drag. Other people, in other uses, will care greatly about the overall length. Some others will care about maximum torque, while others doing delicate work won't care at all.
16:00 - he said it though? even highlighted snap-on/ltt after saying the PB swiss is too high on backdrag you can also just make your own ranking by picking categories that you need to most (each person requires different specs). add them all up then divide by number of categories that you have selected.
@ProjectFarm If you have access to Canadian Tire, I'd love to see how the MAXIMUM Screwdriver's compare. (Maximum has a Lifetime Exchange Warranty) Thanks!
@@ProjectFarm It wasn't a compliment my man.. There is currently a huge issue with LTT with allegations of inappropriate business/testing practices and of sexual misconduct inside of LTT google Linus Tech Tips and Madison and limit it to the last week.. LTT at the very least should be held at arms length until the most serious of these charges are answered satisfactorily.
@@ProjectFarmYour reviews are always appreciated. The timing is just something between random and awkward, because of all the stuff going on with LTT. They even moved the launch of the new limited-edition screwdriver, because of what is going on. But honestly, this doesn't affect you, nor your reviews.
Thanks Todd! I remember mentioning this to you before… Always include “Top Name Brands” in your tool test’s, especially Husky, Kobalt & Master Force from ALL three of the nation’s most trusted and purchased “Big Box Store Brand Tools”. Instead, you’re testing unknown brands like… NoCry, Stahlwille, MichaelPro & PB Swiss. Hard to find brands that are usually only available via the internet for purchase. FYI… Husky Tools is the Number #1 most purchased Brand Tool’s in the U.S.A. Therefore, always make certain to add these brands to be tested. We enjoy watching your UA-cam Channel, hopefully this information will help improve your content in future video’s. Thank you… Keep up the great work!
Todd deliberately uses a mix of enthusiast tools that are common among serious tool users (by which I mean those of us who use tools frequently in either a professional setting or similar) in both the US and Europe as he has a large audience in both (and he's mentioned this). He's not necessarily looking at the most popular items but the ones someone who is using these tools everyday and wearing them hard might use. So while sometimes he may miss some of the mass market tools, be aware that most of the brands you haven't heard of - they're likely not aimed at you but another section of the audience who are just as valid and large as the US one.
Seriously it would be quite a good Video. As I've said in my comment I am upgrading all my screwdrivers to Wera (tha ratchetings, stubbies, normal, nuts, etc) except for the VDE and the impact screwdriver. In my opinion i really don't see the point on spending 50-70 euros on a set of impact screwdrivers just to hit them with a hammer. As a chisel my cheap impact set will do, but if there is a really big difference I would upgrade them. Tnx for your videos.
the one issue we had with ratchet arc distance was that wide handles, while more comfortable, resulted in a shorter distance. using a standard stick eliminates that issue. Very Impressive!
A video on mold/mildew shower cleaners would be appreciated. Getting soap scum off ceramic, glass, etc. To this day I can't find any chemical that works as good as a razor blade or magic eraser.
Magic Eraser helps many companies sell their chemical cleaner. Many chemical cleaner companies will "show how good their chemical cleaner is" by showing it being sprayed on, then wiped off. Seemingly, they work "amazing"--what they don't tell you, is that the thing they wipe with, is a Magic Eraser or similar, and THAT is what is working so effectively. Not the chemical.
A subjective criticism on some of the screwdrivers' design; the bit tip is too close to the wide handle (e.g. Wera), would definitely be an issue in some tight electronic spaces. A shame the Klein, Milwaukee, PB Swiss had so much back drag, they seem to be the most useable aside from LTT. Also, the other tools you mentioned where they were made in, LTT you didn't.
I think I'll be getting a Stubby from LTT as well. After really not caring much about the first, I decided to try it regardless, and it has turned into my favourite. So I guess they got me on the next one as well!
@@dgnightwing95 Huh, what allegations? I know nothing about that. I avoid his products because he doesn't respect the UA-cam viewers that earned him his $millions.
Honestly, the ltt stubby screwdriver held up better than I expected. I've been using the regular one since it launched, though mostly for my pc so not really in a very trying environment. Happy to see that their efforts have payed off in a competitive product
yeah but that one low back drag rating sort of defeats the purpose on a ratcheting screw driver. It is good locked though so I still might try it out. I don't have a ratchet screwdriver or a stubby. I use the new Klein 14 in one for most things these days.
The first test may have been a bit skewed due to the longer length of the screwdriver and the tendency for your hand to fall away from the center as can be seen in the video. On your next ratchet swing test, you may want to use a plate with a hole in it as a secondary center point to eliminate more human error. Great video as usual otherwise!
Here’s the list of products reviewed. More details in the video description. Thank you!
GearWrench: amzn.to/3Oz4mfZ
Wera: amzn.to/3KDQqQE
Milwaukee: amzn.to/3KG8MAi
Stanley: amzn.to/3ORPACa
Klein Tools: amzn.to/3KDk0pg
MichaelPro: amzn.to/45vw5VL
Nocry: amzn.to/3DWfVce
SATA: amzn.to/45vwiZ3
Stahlwille: amzn.to/3QBAi5O
PB Swiss:
LTT: Available at the LTT Website/Store
Matco Tools: Available at the Matco Tools Store
Snap On: Available at the Snap On Website/Store
Showed this channel to my cousin who works in construction. Now he treats this channel like the Bible when he buys tools.
Awesome! Thank you
As he should. A must for anyone doing regular, serious work with tools.
Please don’t sell out. Keep to your reputation of being fair.
15:12 “Which is a lot more torque then you’ll probably need for a P.C. build” - Making excuses for it when this could be true for all of them.
15:38 “Definitely not a tool made for rugged use” - A more appropriate comment for the LTT one as well.
Then leaving out the first thought of anyone buying a screw driver from the results grid (i.e. is it tough/strong enough). Likely only to get the LTT one up to #3. Really makes this one feel like a LTT Paid promotion.
Definitely top 5 channels to watch
@@DietBajaBlast Lol, I think you're the one that's not being fair.
Negative remark toward LTT: That's a valid opinion.
Positive remark toward LTT: That's bias.
🤣🤣They just got 3rd place because that's the spot they earned.
I am continually amazed by this man’s ability to put 25 minutes worth of information into a 17 minute video, all without skipping or missing anything. Thank you for the valuable service you provide to the DIY community!
Thanks!
I think he's genetically an auctioneer!
8.5 minutes if you watch at 2x speed as god intended.
probably 25hrs
@@JETHO321Yup, the only creator I am not using my 2x speed up. (but I will use 1.5x when I am in peak condition, and on other content creators I then use browser extension for 3x speed)
No idea what half of this stuff is, but enjoy watching regardless :) you manage to fit around half an hour of info it’s around 15 minutes, without an insane amount of ads!
Stubby screwdrivers
Thanks!
how tf do you have 1.4M subs with only 1 video in the channel ?
@@Shockload They cheated. Put their video on peoples playlists through an exploit I think. Also sub bot probably.
@@Surms41 Weird channel "about" section. It has "Don't message me asking questions about the channel" but also a "Business inquiries" link and a site link. Seems shady from the start. Just going to assume it's a good idea not to get involved with whatever is going on there.
No nonsense, non biased testing makes this channel one of the best test reviews on here.
So happy LTT stumpy got a fair test, it takes a lot to build commercial products these days.
Thanks!
Tell that to Linus who possibly destroyed a small startup by having no idea what he was doing and then 'bagging' the product.
@@bsmith2053 That was SO yesterday dude. Don't care anymore, and has absolutely nothing to be with a screwdriver review.
@@TargetSurvival It has something to do with your comment regarding how hard it is to build a product. But hey if you would rather stick your head up your ass and forget things like this go ahead
@@bsmith2053hes wrong but 800$ for a cooling block is crazy
I don't even care about half of the things tested on this channel but it's just such a joy to watch. I did buy a few things based on these reviews and I am really thankful for all the work you are doing. This kind of honest and unbiased content is hard to find. Not to mention the creativity and the presentation. Love this channel!!
Thank you very much!
That it does… or if you are walking around a store, and find something interesting, and give the channel a quick review
I couldn’t agree more.
@@wobblysauceI have done that several times.
A comprehensive list of only the "Very Impressive" tools would be awesome. That specific rating has become the gold standard anytime I buy tools.
Thanks for the suggestion!
This would be amazing!!! I'd use that as a Christmas purchasing guide
Come on guys, it would obviously be an excel sheet 😂
Like the “as seen on tv” but actually means something. Ha ha
How many Livers does it cost?
Suggested tool to test: Snap ring pliers. So many ways they fail to get the ring out or hold it without flinging it into your face, across the shop/yard, or off into a different dimension entirely.
Great idea
I can totally relate with the different dimensions.. I’m pretty sure that is where 80% of the snap rings I removed live.
Great idea!
I got a set of OTC snap ring pliers and I am very happy with them. I previously had Vise Grip brand snap ring pliers and they were total junk.
Now _That_ is a fantastic suggestion !!!
LTT screwdrivers are quite consistent it would appear - often in the top of the pack, not expensive compared to better performing tools, but indeed a bit pricey for many people who doesn't need a screwdriver everyday. They definitely have a great "prosumer" niche nailed down.
Thank you, Todd, for carrying out all these tests for us to refer to!
You are welcome!
I think they are made by megapro.
I bought one way before LTT started to rebrand them and I swear to god it's the only tool that I've genuinely been surprised how well it was designed. I probably put 15,000 hours of use on that little red fucker and it's still going strong lol
@griffinmackenzie6364 iirc LTT has been very transparent that they used patented ratchet and bit holder designs from Megapro, but LTT did made lots of changes to achieve their desired ratchet feel, e.g. the low ratchet back drag. Definitely great for low force and more delicate applications like electronics assembly and disassembly (duh), but yeah the original Megapro should be much better for heavy jobs (not to mention the LTT upcharge) - although it looks like the only way to get a Megapro-style ratcheting stubby at the moment is the LTT Stubby.
@griffinmackenzie6364 LTT licensed the Mega pro patent and improved upon it themselves through engineering. It wouldn't have taken them 3 years of development time to simply rebrand a megapro
@@one-six952 The also had it re-engineered to have the selector switch work the opposite of the direction megapro does. As that not only makes sense, it matches the direction of the Snapon Selector switch Linus used before this.
Suggested video: Compare radiator coolant additives, claiming to decrease temperature by 25F degrees: Red Line -Water wetter, Royal Purple - Purple Ice, RISLONE - Super coolant, VP racing - cool down, Mishimoto - Liquid Chill.
Thank you for the video idea!
Please!!
Great idea
Good one, man!
I use water wetter in my PC cooling loop and it dropped temps a couple degrees.
As an Engineer I very much appreciate not only the testing, but the recap at the end to allow me to prioritise the aspects that are truly important for my line of work. Keep up the good work!
Thanks, will do!
Linus going through a lot of drama rn, but project farm just doing his tests as always
Respect
Thank you!!
smh@@chaosseat
@@chaosseatrufkm
@@chaosseat and you wrote "GenZ" with "...." at the end. LAZY AF! 😂
Lol
I love the mixture of FreedomUnits and SI units, thus ensuring equitable gnashing of teeth across the world. Kudos! Love the channel!
Thanks!
The equitable gnashing of teeth. I love that line. Need to remember it. 😂
I wouldn't call them freedom units tho since they're Brittish units, its called Imperial units for that reason as in Brittish empire.
I dunno, it's weird, we use grams and millimeters but you can get that celsius stuff away from me. 0 is water freezing and 40 is unbearable heat? get some more units there buddy. milimeters though? sexy, I can't quit.
Love how your videos get straight to the point with no filler. Amazing job like always
Thank you!
Can we just take a moment to appreciate just how many comments this gentleman takes the time to reply to. Not many channels have this level of content creator involvement. Many thanks from Scotland.
Thanks and you are welcome!
I absolutely love these videos, and you know why?
Because they’re not just tests done with stupid music on-screen with very little commentary, but there’s so much love, soul and joy put into them.
I’m visually impaired so the amount of dialog really helps, where other channels might just throw Uber-pretty graphs on-screen and call it a day, don’t bother to paint the back side of the fence, go that extra mile but not this channel.
I recommend content like this to friends of mine due to the amazing format, which is just so engaging.
Thank you for your great work. Please, never change.
Thank you very much!
Hey Todd,
I wanted to shoot you a quick thank you for all the awesome reviews and tests you put together. Your channel's been a solid guide for me, and I'm always stoked to discover your top picks and actually buy stuff based on your recommendations.
Now, I've got a little suggestion that I thought could be pretty neat. How about tossing in some timecodes to split your videos into chapters? It'd be super handy for all of us viewers to jump straight to the parts we're most interested in. Plus, this move could give your SEO a boost. So, when someone Googles a review for a specific product, your video's chapter could pop up, matching their search and making them more likely to click.
To make things even smoother for you, I've gone ahead and whipped up a sample timecode for this video. You can just copy and paste this baby into your description, and bam! Instant chapters on your progress bar. Just remember, kick off each new chapter with 0:00.
Timecodes:
0:00 - Introduction
0:10 - Test 1 - Optimal Performance Evaluation of Arch Swing
0:14 - Test 2 - Assessment of Build Quality Variation
0:16 - Product Overview - Stanley Control-Grip Stubby Ratcheting Screwdriver
0:53 - Product Overview - MichaelPro Stubby Ratchet Screwdriver
1:20 - Product Overview - NoCry Stubby Ratcheting Screwdriver Kit
1:42 - Product Overview - SATA 6-Piece Stubby Ratcheting Screwdriver Set
2:08 - Product Overview - Klein Tools 32593 Multi-bit Ratcheting Screwdriver
2:29 - Product Overview - Milwaukee 48-22-2320 Compact Ratcheting Multi-Bit Driver
2:49 - Product Overview - Stahlwille 18120002 Ratcheting Screwdriver Bit Holder No. 4008
3:13 - Product Overview - Wera Kraftform Stubby Magazin RA 3 Bithold Screwdriver Magazine
3:30 - Product Overview - LTT Stubby Screwdriver
3:57 - Product Overview - Matco Tools 4-piece Stubby Ratcheting Screwdriver Set SRSS04
4:22 - Product Overview - GEARWRENCH 40 Pc. Ratcheting Screwdriver Set - 8940
4:47 - Product Overview - PB Swiss Tools PB 8453 R-30 Insider Stubby Ratchet - Pocket Tool
5:10 - Product Overview - Snap-on SGDMRC11A Ratcheting Soft Grip Stubby Screwdriver (Red)
5:44 - Analysis Chart - Right-Left Passes in 360 Degrees Within 50 Degree Space
5:56 - Test - Comparison of Screwdriver Lengths
6:05 - Analysis Chart - Screwdriver Length Comparison
6:07 - Test - Back Drag Comparison
7:28 - Analysis Chart - Ratchet Back Drag Comparison
7:37 - Test - Magnetism Assessments
8:32 - Analysis Chart - Magnetic Strength Through Factory Bit
8:42 - Test - Side-to-Side Shaft Wobbling Test
9:45 - Analysis Chart - Side-to-Side Shaft Wobble (inches)
9:55 - Test - Bit Retention Strength Analysis
10:57 - Analysis Chart - Bit Retention Strength Assessment
11:07 - Test - Degree of Rotation in Locked Position
12:02 - Analysis Chart - Degree of Rotation in Locked Position
12:12 - Test - No. 2 Bit Failure Experiment
13:48 - Analysis Chart - Bit Tip Failure Load
13:59 - Test - Screwdriver Torque Evaluation
15:51 - Analysis Chart - Total Score and Conclusion
Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.
Pin it so it stays on top.
Backdrag and the 360 test are by far the most important to me. Thanks for another great video!
Glad you like them!
Absolutely. As an electrician I find that low amount of backdrag helps a lot in tight spaces. You also just lose rotation because of it.
How about trying two remove bits with greasy hands I know that's not very technical but that's a pain in the ass if the magnet is too strong. It's quite frustrating to be honest. What's your opinion.
@@anuragchandra8283 Yeah the bit retention is a balancing act imho. I don't want it falling out all the time, especially when I have my hand deep into a piece of equipment, but I don't value an extremely strong magnetic bit holder, either.
Agreed. Great results from PBswiss .. too bad about that backdrag.
My goodness, this channel is a one of a kind. The information gathered and shown here is priceless. Excellent channel.
Thanks!
Anytime I'm shopping for a new tool, I always watch this channel first to see if it has been tested. Thank you so much for what you do for the community! 👏
You are welcome! Thanks for watching!
Same.
I'm always genuinely impressed by the design focus with the LTT screwdrivers. The backdrag makes them ideal for really fiddly fine threaded fasteners with enough strength to be practical in any reasonable use.
If I had to put this much torque on a philips screw I'd probably already have pulled out the drill or an impact driver lol.
Thanks for the feedback.
Project Farm has nothing to do with the recent LTT drama. No need to hate on this video
Great point! I didn't plan it this way. Testing was finished and editing completed on Monday. I worked through the weekend to finish this review before the planned screwdriver release this past Thursday. Thanks again!
Agreed. They may have dropped the ball but that also doesn't mean their products suck either.
I joined this channel when i saw your awesome video about which Epoxy was better on plastic 5 whole years ago. Since then it's been amazing to watch you grow so much and watch your audience appreciate your style. Thank you again for all your bring to this platform, and thank you above all else for your honesty!
You're welcome!
Same, for me it was the JB weld video
Will Rogers used to say that the man who tells the truth doesn’t have to remember what he said
I don’t have a good enough memory to be a politician.
For me it was the drywall anchor test from a few years back. I took his conclusions and have never had a shelf fall in my kitchen, even with incredibly heavy Fiesta Ware plates and bowls.
Honestly, at $14 the No Cry is a great value from a back drag perspective being so close to the $70 GearWrench, and the $30 Stahwille with its fairly strong magnet and still fairly low backdrag is a close second in value in my mind, especially if you have your own bits handy and would otherwise be ok with no onboard storage
Thanks for the feedback.
You can get the stawille one for cheaper under bahco sl25 , exact same stubby with extensions& bits for less money
@@garymccreath2773
Not sure who the OEM is for that one, but the same tools (with slightly varying styling) are sold by a number of brands.
I happen to have a Bahco branded one, but would not recommend it. There‘s nothing particularly wrong with it, but the ratchet isn’t all that precise, mediocre back drag and it has a fair bit of shaft wobble.
The toothless ratchets made by Oplast (sold under Hazet, Gedore and some other brands in different configurations) are just better and similarly priced.
Eh I had a bad experience with my No Cry stubby from 2019. After less than 2 months the mechanism for holding bits fell apart.
Thank you sir. The Husky seems pretty decent for the price. I am really glad to see these different options. A stubby is an occasional tool, but i believe you want a solid one when those times come.
You are welcome!
Husky seems to make a above average quality tools for fair or good prices, plus a lifetime warranty
I just love the way you test, Todd. You do the heavy lifting for us all. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks so much!
Thanks for the test, Todd!
I have both the standard size PB Swiss and LTT ratcheting screwdriver; while both are great, I like the PB Swiss more - the bits are much superior
in durability (normal use, not near failure), the handle material is MUCH better as it gives more grip rather than the sleek and slippery design of LTT, and it is more ergonomic.
You got to give to the Swiss. They make great tools.
You're welcome!
Everything Swiss made I've seen has been quality. I just bought a Swiss designed laptop backpack. They're more expensive but you can see they are very detail oriented and have a 10 year warranty far surpassing most others at around the $100 price point.
This was always one of my son's favorite channels. He introduced me to it quite a while back. I still love to watch it. Really appreciate the attention to detail and the entertainment value. I've made a lot of purchace decisions based off of your videos. So far I've been happy with them all. Thank you for everything you do!
You are welcome! Thanks for sharing.
This channel has become a go to for me. I’m always trying out different types of mechanics hand soaps/towels. If you ever test them, that will be the end all be all for me. Keep up the good work!
Thanks, will do!
lmao the timing of this release 😂😂😂
Thank you and hope you enjoy the video!
I am very disappointed there was no test for using the screwdrivers to hammer nails 🥲
Can we get a test of the LTT screwdriver with a flathead bit, being used to drive in a Philips screw? I know some people would say "hey that's not fair" but what are you to do? Spend, $100, $200, $300 or even $500 to do the test properly?
@MarkDano , I don't know if he knows... What a legend.
The timing is quite perfect IMO 😂😂😂
Phillips electric tooth brush VS Oral B electric tooth brush ...this has been debated for decades 😮
Thank you for the video idea!
I bought oral b 8 years ago still working 😮
Thank you for the work that you do. I always check to see if you've got a video on an item I'm considering.
Would be great to see you test knee pads/kneeling mats. Durability, ability to be supportive (not just a squishy mat that doesn't actually help) ability for pad to stay in place, grip with the ground etc.
I didn't think it possible you guys could be even more thorough and real-world with your tests then you did it anyway! Excellent job!
Thanks!
Hi "Project Farm", old retired Navy Veteran who has his own "project farm" to support. Again, thank you for your honesty, your humility, your integrity, and your dedication to helping fellow DIY's. Your test results are very practical and useful especially for people on a (limited) budget; they reflect issues that most of DIYers face especially the ones dealing with self-employment (like farmers, small shop owners, ...). It means a lot to us (the "little people"). I have subscribed to "Consumer's Reports" for over 40 years and their testing is good/accurate but your reviews are more "practical" and you do not hesitate to "call a cat, a cat" i.e. you actually rate/publish (number-wise) your results (something similar to the "Torque Test Channel"). Thank you for saving your viewers pain, frustration(s) and... money. Ciao, L (Morningside & Starshine Farms Inc.)
A major challenge with Consumer Reports is its bias toward environmentalism. Their reviews for the same products often vary drastically by year. I stopped subscribing for those reasons. I do respect their commitment, however.
Thanks so much!
@@dad1432 Hi Dad1432, I fully agree with you. CR's methodology is excellent but they have introduced the "greenie" bias in their philosophy of testing which introduces a "government-supported" bias. The other issue I see/read is the lack of actual result numbers on the testing of their products (as opposed to Project Farm, Torque Test Channel, ...). This makes it harder for people like me to be able to reproduce their results or make better "informed" decisions in my product purchases. Ciao, L
@@dad1432 - CR lost me when I noticed that they rarely tested for endurance when doing their ratings. I want things that last, not ones that work for 18 months then need to be replaced.
I hope there's a grip test, some of my screwdrivers like this just slips in your hand as the rubber handles aren't stuck to the actual unit very well
Great point. I should have included a grip test!
Therexxx- Yes, in the 70's I had a cheapo set with a loose black vinyl grip over yellow plastic handle. That stubby was useless except as a probe of the screw slot😅
A lot of conditions to test out. With gloves / without gloves the material of the gloves. Oiled or dusty/dirty. I'm curious about how some of these handle being in dusty environments.
also if the grips are rubber, if they are oil/gas resistant or the type that melts.@@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm
I think a quick rating on size should have been added into the final value. Some of those are too long and there is nothing you can do if they don't fit. The REAL stubby ones can work in close and you can use an extension if needed. Matko, gearwrench and Snapon seem too long.
I’m just so impressed with how well the Milwaukee screwdriver did considering it’s price. Made me happy about my purchase a few years ago! 😊 Still going strong as well! 👍🏽
Thanks for the feedback.
If it had better back drag it would be perfect at a steal of a price
@@Darkcruzer23 I have the full size version in my kit, and that is the biggest drawback.
Todd, I always enjoy your testing methods. You design them to bring out the worst flaws.
I first started watching your videos when you destroyed lawnmowers. It saved me from having to break them myself.
Keep up the great videos.
Thanks, will do!
Personal preference comes into play heavily on these for me. I actually prefer ones that don't have bit storage in the handle. Usually when I'm using one of these it is with my finger tips in a tight spot. A smaller profile handle suits me better because of that.
Thanks for the feedback.
I don't like the rotate-to-change-direction feature, though i own a couple. I think i would strongly prefer the mechanism on the NoCry. It seems like that is much easier to use one handed, with less room for confusion about what it means - push towards the screw to screw it in, pull back to screw out.
Thanks for the video. Great work as always.
Thank you!
Once you've used them for a while, you remember which way to turn them. I have the milwaukee, and the rotate is opposite of the full size screwdriver annoyingly. More important is that it's way easier to accidentally move collar while using the stubby. The full size I have no issues, but with the stubby I accidentally turn the collar way too often.
As someone with the larger LTT screwdriver, it’s very easy to switch positions one handed. I’ve been shocked how much I use and love the big ratchet driver.
I'm surprised if all the local tool trucks don't already stop by your house, they're missing out on quite a few sales for this channel! Awesome video as usual!
Thanks!
Thanks for testing all these out. For tool testing, I feel it's important to show all the different categories like this since what a particular user cares about will really depend. For some jobs, back drag is critical. For others jobs it barely matters at all. Similar for if you care about locked position performance. etc
You are welcome! Thanks for the feedback.
I'm not so sure about the accuracy of 9:24 here.
Snap on stubby is awesome because you can swap out to a whole bunch of different shanks. A cool little feature.
Thank you for sharing!
same as Gearwrench
It'd be cool to see on the graph what you consider acceptable values for each/some criteria. For example, with bit retention strength low values are bad but values that are too high are as well, so some form of color coding on the graph to see what you think is the best range would bring those abstract numbers more into context.
EDIT: oh, and metric units for those of us that don't speak freedom units :)
Thanks for the suggestion.
I don't know how to explain it, but this channel is the perfect tool review channel. It gets straight to the point, seems non-bias, no unnececary monologues defending brands or poor results on favorites etc. The way the videos are formattet, it gets straight to the point, but still has enough personality and flair to keep both a teenager and grandpa engaged throughout.
Thanks!
Very impressive. Thank you i really needed this comparison right now. Most of these are totally fine. But the PB Swiss suits my needs perfectly since losing screws is always annoying.
Thanks and you are welcome!
Very nice to see the LTT driver doing what it was intended for well. This video helps make the price make sense since the higher ranked ones are also more expensive. The locked position rotation and bit retention were a tad disappointing. Maybe they can fix that up in revisions.
Thanks for the feedback.
@htr5372 u mad bro?
@htr5372 u indeed mad bro
The rotation at the locked position is kind of misleading as the measurements are taken so far away to get a better idea between all of them. Any that did not make it past 1 inch in that test is great in my opinion. I have the original LTT driver along with many other ratcheting tools. The bit storage, magnet, ratchet and ergonomics is what makes it for me. It is expensive yes but no other driver I have tried comes close. All other options I can think of that would be second would have a extremely poor magnet and far worse ratchet.
@htr5372 Then name one.
Already leaving my thumbs up because Project Farm never fails to deliver the goods
Thank you very much!
Wow, what an excellent video. Straight to the point, objective and very informative. Came here for the LTT review, subbed for the quality of the video
Thanks! Thanks for watching and subscribing!
Love to see how popular your channel has become. You deserve it.
Thanks!
Another great video! It would be great to see a revisit to your impact driver video. Both dewalt and Milwaukee have come out with several new drivers since then and it would be interesting to see how they work! I’d be really interested to see how the Milwaukee surge would stand up. I particularly like how it starts to impact much earlier with soft impacts that help keep you from caming out in screws.
Thank you!
Torque test channel has a lot of great videos on new impacts
I would have liked to have seen the Doyle version from harbor freight included. I really like the improvements HF has made to their tools over the last few years.
Thanks for the suggestion.
I have the doyle stubby. Its *ok*
The Doyle is nearly the same as Kleins
I don’t like the ratchet on mine.
HF has had a number of 'good' tool reviews on occasion the last couple years. They can spec quality at least up to anyone else, if they want to pay for that level and take the hit on profit.
They rarely do, though recently they seem to be pricing a lot of stuff a bit higher with less jankiness looking internals. Gotta watch for the bait and switch where AvE or someone does a teardown and finds its good quality similar to on of the other top names, and then once a run starts on them and their rep get passed by word of mouth, they swap in a different SKU model that looks the same but is value engineered lower for higher profit.
Love the testing I wonder if any other testing labs are taking notes.
LTT is definitely not, considering they decide to trash on anyone who has superior testing methodologies than them
Project Farm ain’t ever apologized for testing errors neither…
cuz he’s never made one 😎
Thank you!
There's at least one channel that's a pretty close clone of PF just with fancy animations for the spreadsheet data
@@ChuckThree, Project Farm actually did get a bunch of criticism for the recent review of equipment for "welding" plastic where many commenters felt that Todd really needed to spend more time learning how to use the devices to their best ability, and also "matching the hatch" with the correct type of plastic welding rods to the type of plastic being repaired. It was the only time I've seen any major criticisms of his product testing.
Project Farm is the kinda guy where if I made a screwdriver, I would trust him with the priceless prototype. That's more than I can say about a certain other UA-cam testing lab.
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Thank you!
if i had a $8000 protoype i would get an actually binding legal contract before trying to get free publicity…
I had a feeling this would be coming because the ltt mini screwdriver just came out.
Great point! I didn't plan it this way. Testing was finished and editing completed on Monday. Thanks again!
@@ProjectFarm I mean it doesn't bother me. This whole controversy is overinflated by Internet trolls. PF and LTT best channels on YT!
@@VacMaster1991support scumbags like LTT. I'm sure they love you
@@VacMaster1991 PF maybe, but ltt are pretentious twats
@PuerRidcully are they though? Complacent maybe.... stuck in what they thought was an echo chamber maybe...... pretentious? Depending on how you slice the categories they are either 2nd or 3rd biggest tech channel.. they are the opposite of pretentious or the reaction wouldn't of been rushed into a forum... don't be stupid. 😂 my dude said pretentious.. get off the band wagon and make up your own mind 😂
Great video as always, but one thing i noticed is that the LTT handle was against the vice reducing backlash in the shaft.
I'm pretty sure his test there is for play between the ratchet and the handle, so it doesn't matter if it's against the vice.
Well at the rate that Linus is going, he could always be a tool manufacturer. Love your vids Project Farm!
Thank you!
he's a tool after all!
@@ameliabuns4058I’m glad someone else said it 😅
Wow, you tested way more products than usual. Really appreciate you constantly improving your content!
Thanks!
If you test ratcheting screwdrivers again I would love to see a drop test get added in! I switched to the milwaukee screwdrivers purely because the bitholder can't break when dropped. Had a dewalt one that exploded apart from a 5 ft drop 😥
Thank you for sharing!
Your review videos are just in a league of their own. You most likely help millions with choosing the right tools for their job (and budget) and very likely help to prevent work place accidents, not just choosing the best of the bunch. Your channel is just hidden gold dude. Keep it up! :)
I bought the normal ltt driver only after watching your video to see if it was worth as i fix and build computer for friends and family often. I have never been happier with a tool and it really saves my hands from cuts and fatigue that happens during.
Thanks, will do! Thanks for the feedback.
Regardless of the current controversy this was another great video and honest review of stuby screwdrivers.
A review I’d like to see is on inflatable air wedge/jacks I recently picked up the rhino strong brand to help keep doors open but would like to see the others tested that are Amazon and see if I picked the right one or got caught in the market fluff.
Thank you for sharing!
Help keep doors open? I love over the top stuff as much as the next guy, but wouldn't a door stop be cheaper?
@@mediocreman2 well the door stop I got didn’t work. The door spring was a bit strong and the floor was a bit too slick. so the door stop wouldn’t hold the door open so I used the air bag and it held it open.
Well, I've never used an air wedge as a door stop. I have however used Rhino's to install several upper kitchen cabinets. They are excellent, so don't worry that you may have been scammed. You didn't.
@@ST-0311 good to know. I had bought a wedge-it brand door stop and the rhino to see how they would work. the wedge-it didn't work it the door was either too heavy or the door spring was set too tight so if you looked at it wrong the thing would shut. The rhino worked were that item failed.
= Screwdriver introductions =
0:17 Stanley Control Grip
0:54 MichaelPro
1:21 NoCry
1:43 SATA
2:08 Klein Tools
2:30 Milwaukee
2:50 Stahlwille
3:13 Wera Kraftform
3:30 LTT Linus Tech
3:57 Matco Tools
4:42 Gear Wrench kit
4:48 PB Swiss
5:11 Snap-on
16:00 Screwdriver summary
Would love to see you do some more tests on kitchen appliances and maybe even venture into cleaning products. I know there's plenty of people who already do those sorts of videos, but I enjoy your content and how thorough your tests are!
Thanks for the suggestion.
Have you done a video on sockets? That would be fun to see. Thanks for all the great content!
I don't think I'm your typical audience member but I've been watching your content for 4 years now and I felt like saying that I appreciate ur work a lot even if I'm not the target audience.
I'm disabled and among various joint and lung issues, 4 years ago i started having daily migraines and your videos were the only ones I could watch for months. Still now, when I'm having a bad day or when my pain is flaring up I like to watch your content :)
It's a big comfort for me and I appreciate how consistent you've been with your content, i hope you enjoy what you do and that your enjoyment never fades
Thanks for sharing! Glad I can be a comfort! I certainly enjoy what I do! It is an encouragement to know others appreciate the videos!
Love these reviews and how much information you manage to fit into a relatively short video!
One suggestion for future comparisons: you might want to consider aggregating the final scores based on relative performance, not rank, e.g., mapping the worst & best value to 0 and 10 respectively: if the highest weight you can lift with the magnet is 1kg and the lowest is 0, then a screwdriver lifting 750g would get a 7.5/10. This should make your overall ratings more fair in the plenty of cases where you might have a few competitors that all do similarly well in some categories
Thanks for the constructive feedback.
A suggestion on your final scoring: As it currently is, you only take into account the place a tool finished in. However, you don't take into account if the tool in place 1 was 10 times as good as the tool in place 2, or only marginally better. For example, the PB Swiss did almost twice as good as the second place in the bit retention strength, but that doesn't get reflected in the final score.
Personally, I really like the spreadsheet that the torque test channel uses in their videos. This takes the actual values a tool scored, and then applies a weighting to get a final score. Personally I don't like the weighting (unless the spreadsheet is publicly available so people can change the weighting to their preferencers), since each person has a different need. One wants a tool with as little backdrag as possible, the other doesn't care one bit about backdrag, but it does provide a nice overview.
This is also something that slightly bothers me about your videos. You put a lot of effort into these videos, but then don't make the things you found out readily available. Sure, I get that you want people to watch your entire video, but it would be very nice to have an overview table at the end of the video (again, like the torque test channel), where all the things you tested can be viewed at once. That would probably help people find the tool they need without having to skip through the video looking at the test results individually.
Thank you for the feedback!
But is that actually better to have to pull like crazy to get the bit out? I would actually not put it at number one for this much pull.
But then people would be able to see that the ltt was one of the least durable tools on this test. It came in last place in the break test.
@@dru70292 Not sure if you actually use ratcheting screwdrivers; they're not typically used in applications that require a lot of torque. You will not break it like that in normal use.
@@YouPlagueThe main reason why I never liked bitted screwdrivers is because the bits often get pulled out too easily, remaining on the screw. It's also the reason why I shelled out for the PB Swiss, however I was disappointed with the heavy backdrag. After also not being too impressed by my Wera ratchet, I decided to try the LTT one and for the first time ever I'm actually really satisfied by a ratcheting screwdriver. I just wish it had the magnet strength of the PB Swiss.
I've been wanting to see you do tests with demolition screwdrivers for a while now would be very interesting since they're made to withstand a lot
Thanks for the suggestion.
Hey Todd, absolutely love your videos! Quick idea for taking out human error at the backdrag test: if you fit a small pipe over the hex-shaft for the part that lays on the middle platform, there will be less inconsistency/more accuracy with overcoming the bumps of the hex-shaft. The positions where you started varied from screwdriver to screwdriver, so the rotational position of the hex-shaft also varied/the horizontal distance to where the sting is attached to the weights. So some seem to have started on one of the 6 bumps, while other seem to have started on one of the flat sides and had to overcome the bump.
I hope my attempt at explaining makes sense?
I really love your videos and watch every single one! You always seem to find simple and efficient ways to take the human error factor out as much as possible.
Kind regards
Thanks! Thanks for the constructive feedback.
I think one of the most impressive wins for the LTT is the side to side wobble, less than half the slop of the snap-on, which costs more and is from a long established tool maker. Very impressive.
Thank you!
It's impressive don't get me wrong, coupled with everything else it's brilliant - but when it comes to ratcheting tools I've never found wobble/slop to be a significant indicator of anything straight out the box. They all end up the same way very very quickly. Now if LTT retained that tightness over a long period, I'd be super impressed and would make it my go to. But the larger LTT didn't hold up for me in that regard. My experience is they all end up just as wobbly as each other after a week of use, and if you need an exacting use, it might be best to see if you can use a non ratcheting tool.
But it's definitely a very very good indicator of strong build quality in the LTT and its impressive that a company like LTT that doesn't (yet) specialise in tools has such high quality control
Remember, the snap-on also has a disadvantage in slop due to the removable shaft…
@@zakkazz1201 hmm good catch. I can see how it could've been an honest mistake as the shaft on the LTT is so short, but yeah it is the closest to the vice of all the products tested and you cannot see the light coming from behind the screwdriver in that gap as you can with the other products that were close to the vice.
@zakkazz1201 I also noticed that, but then I paid attention to other screwdrivers, some of them were locked similarly. I assume all of them were locked the best way it was possible... so geometry of shaft contributed into this particular test(so far the only test that was influenced by geometry).
It is not excuse, just explanation attempt.
Great testing!
Suggestion for your methodology: for all videos where you do force testing using a kitchen scale, it would really benefit to be replaced by a strain gauge and data logger. The problem with using the kitchen scale is that you can't measure pulling force, and that you are limited in the resolution of the data based on how frequently the scale updates its display. Using a force/strain gauge, you can invest in a handful of gauges that will be suitable for different ranges. They will be a lot more precise and repeatable, and allow you to use better testing jigs for measuring pull force directly. The data logger will significantly help your accuracy and precision. You can log at a high frequency through the whole test and then analyze the data afterwards to find the peak. You can even superimpose the strain data as a "live" plot when performing the test, as well as recording the screen on the data logger in the shot.
A good general purpose data logger that can interface with strain gauges will be a huge addition to your testing toolbox and allow you to bring this channel to the next level.
For the backdrag test in this video, using a hex key with a round over-molded handle will also improve your results by providing a much smoother and more uniform pivot surface on the shaft. I don't think it makes a big enough difference to change the results, but it felt odd watching the shafts turn against the flats on the hex.
Looking forward to the next video! Best regards.
I thought the same thing in regards to the back drag test, though since they all started in the same position I’m not sure it would have affected anything.
Great testing, as usual. In the years watching your channel it's been cool watching what started as very solid testing mature into very well-considered and executed objective testing for such a wide range of products and capabilities. Kind of makes my think of this channel as being the Mythbusters of UA-cam - a simple concept ("Project Farm") that has grown into something so much more impressive and informative.
"Very Impressive!"
😁
Thanks!
I think it's very impressive how you come up with some ways to test some of the variables, like back resistance in this case
I love the sheer overall quality of the PB Swiss, but I think you're right - 'stubby' usecase would typically have you prioritize ergonomics and low backdrag, and the LTT stubby excels in those cathegories.
(I'm disregarding the Snap On as an option due to lacking bit storage and a personal dislike of the design. Also, it somehow managed to make the LTT and PB Swiss look like good pricing in comparison. Only one bit included, lol.)
Thank you for sharing!
Yeah. Almost 90 bucks for *one* bit? Screw that lol.
I love your videos! Have you done fans? Doesn’t matter if shop or costumer grad I’m curious in a fan show down! Thanks!
Not yet. Thanks for the suggestion!
@@ProjectFarm it could be something along the lines of “do you really need to spend 600$ on a blade less fan or is this 15$ one good enough? Let’s find out!”
@@matthewburno YOU buy the $600 fan and send it to him.
Fans would be interesting, both window and regular. Some window fans are absolutely atrocious in that they move next to no air and cost 45 bucks, it's crazy!!
@@MaribuStork yeah I’ve had 50$ fans I can barly feel 2ft away max setting then a random 20$ no brand I can feel like 30 ft
Great test! I think some drop tests of the plastic handles would be informative, and the stability of the on board bit storage (open/close cycles) - that are more common hazards when ie. working with computers. :)
Thank you!
You want to know how they handle it ? 😅
Hi Todd,
Thanks for unbiased reviews of tools, equipment, and supplies we all use. Please consider testing pump and backpack sprayers. So many of the big box sprayers seem deficient on volume delivery. Let’s find out if that really is the case.
For bit retention, I think stronger isn't always better. You don't want to be unable to pull the bit out if your hands are greasy.
This, having to pull out pliers to change a bit really ruins the workflow, and sometimes you want to use your teeth because the dam thing is so stuck in there, it can be very frustrating
Thanks for the feedback.
Yea, there is certainly a Goldilocks zone there. Not so weak that the bit falls out at random, but not so strong that you need to get a pair of pliers to remove them. But that, like everything else, is a bit subjective.
@@SierraGolfNiner It's probably useful to measure the holding power but not as useful to rank it beyond him using it and noting if it fell out.
@JimFeig I think its useful because I've got one bit holder I never use because you literally need pliers. I wanna know not to buy that one!
Have you considered applying "importance factors" to your charts at the end for scoring? That way, the tests that matter most get weighted more significantly than other nice-to-haves. Just a suggestion!
Thanks for the suggestion.
For this video, I was most interested in shaft wobble and back drag. Nothing else is useful to me, including the efficiency of the ratchet mechanism.
What did everyone else find helpful?
He very explicitly does not do that for any test because what is important changes by the consumer. Some people, for some applications, will care about nothing more than back-drag. Other people, in other uses, will care greatly about the overall length. Some others will care about maximum torque, while others doing delicate work won't care at all.
16:00 - he said it though? even highlighted snap-on/ltt after saying the PB swiss is too high on backdrag
you can also just make your own ranking by picking categories that you need to most (each person requires different specs). add them all up then divide by number of categories that you have selected.
You should do another screwdriver set like compare the brands bc I like Klein screwdrivers the best but it would be cool to see other brands compared.
Thank you for the video idea!
@@ProjectFarm your welcome I always know what comes on Sunday and I’m glad your so consistent with your videos
@ProjectFarm If you have access to Canadian Tire, I'd love to see how the MAXIMUM Screwdriver's compare.
(Maximum has a Lifetime Exchange Warranty)
Thanks!
He has. Look at the videos he's already made
This is the most ridiculously info dense video I've ever seen. With no repetition. Insane.
Good timing for this review! 😂
Thank you!
@@ProjectFarm It wasn't a compliment my man.. There is currently a huge issue with LTT with allegations of inappropriate business/testing practices and of sexual misconduct inside of LTT google Linus Tech Tips and Madison and limit it to the last week.. LTT at the very least should be held at arms length until the most serious of these charges are answered satisfactorily.
@@ElectionJunkie247The farm ain't about that kinda stuff, and given his release schedule, probably predates all the criticism.
@@ProjectFarmYour reviews are always appreciated. The timing is just something between random and awkward, because of all the stuff going on with LTT. They even moved the launch of the new limited-edition screwdriver, because of what is going on.
But honestly, this doesn't affect you, nor your reviews.
he has no idea wtf you are talking about. he is a normie outside the tech drama land
PF do what PF do. he dont pay no mind
Thanks Todd!
I remember mentioning this to you before…
Always include “Top Name Brands” in your tool test’s, especially Husky, Kobalt & Master Force from ALL three of the nation’s most trusted and purchased “Big Box Store Brand Tools”. Instead, you’re testing unknown brands like… NoCry, Stahlwille, MichaelPro & PB Swiss. Hard to find brands that are usually only available via the internet for purchase.
FYI… Husky Tools is the Number #1 most purchased Brand Tool’s in the U.S.A. Therefore, always make certain to add these brands to be tested. We enjoy watching your UA-cam Channel, hopefully this information will help improve your content in future video’s. Thank you… Keep up the great work!
stahlwille is unknown?
Thank you for sharing!
Todd deliberately uses a mix of enthusiast tools that are common among serious tool users (by which I mean those of us who use tools frequently in either a professional setting or similar) in both the US and Europe as he has a large audience in both (and he's mentioned this). He's not necessarily looking at the most popular items but the ones someone who is using these tools everyday and wearing them hard might use.
So while sometimes he may miss some of the mass market tools, be aware that most of the brands you haven't heard of - they're likely not aimed at you but another section of the audience who are just as valid and large as the US one.
That magnet tip from the LTT saved my ass so many times.
yeah idk how useful it is on the shorty but on the longer shaft one i retrieved some really stuck lost screws.@htr5372
Thanks for the feedback.
This is a crossover I never would have expected.
Thanks for watching.
As always you do an excellent job testing the stuff that you feature on your channel. I always look forward to seeing your new videos.
Thank you very much!
Awesome, idea for a video would be an impact screwdriver! Always wanted to know how useful they are and how much they vary.
Thank you for sharing!
Seriously it would be quite a good Video. As I've said in my comment I am upgrading all my screwdrivers to Wera (tha ratchetings, stubbies, normal, nuts, etc) except for the VDE and the impact screwdriver. In my opinion i really don't see the point on spending 50-70 euros on a set of impact screwdrivers just to hit them with a hammer. As a chisel my cheap impact set will do, but if there is a really big difference I would upgrade them. Tnx for your videos.
@@CountPorcula One of my screwdrivers is called "Spudger" for being so cheap and having lasted over seventy years (grandpa's heritage!)
I love how thorough your testing is. Very well done. Keep up the awesome work!
Thanks, will do!
the one issue we had with ratchet arc distance was that wide handles, while more comfortable, resulted in a shorter distance. using a standard stick eliminates that issue. Very Impressive!
Thanks!
A video on mold/mildew shower cleaners would be appreciated. Getting soap scum off ceramic, glass, etc. To this day I can't find any chemical that works as good as a razor blade or magic eraser.
Thank you for sharing!
Magic Eraser helps many companies sell their chemical cleaner. Many chemical cleaner companies will "show how good their chemical cleaner is" by showing it being sprayed on, then wiped off. Seemingly, they work "amazing"--what they don't tell you, is that the thing they wipe with, is a Magic Eraser or similar, and THAT is what is working so effectively. Not the chemical.
Great timing😂
Came here for this.
Thank you!
@@ProjectFarmI don't think you get what he is trying to say
@@danyuzunovIf you watch the video again, and you pay closer attention, you'll realize he knows what the dude is talking about :)
To me it’s speaks highly of you Project Farm when Torque Test Channel refers to your channel. Love your channel and thank you for your honest testing.
Thanks and you are welcome!
A subjective criticism on some of the screwdrivers' design; the bit tip is too close to the wide handle (e.g. Wera), would definitely be an issue in some tight electronic spaces. A shame the Klein, Milwaukee, PB Swiss had so much back drag, they seem to be the most useable aside from LTT. Also, the other tools you mentioned where they were made in, LTT you didn't.
That’s strange, he didn’t mention where it was made in the full sized test either…
I think I'll be getting a Stubby from LTT as well. After really not caring much about the first, I decided to try it regardless, and it has turned into my favourite. So I guess they got me on the next one as well!
Looks like a good tool, but unfortunately, you'll be supporting Linus Sebastion if you buy it :(
Oh no, anyway. Not going to not buy something based on aligations alone.
@@dgnightwing95 Huh, what allegations? I know nothing about that. I avoid his products because he doesn't respect the UA-cam viewers that earned him his $millions.
Thanks for the feedback.
@@TonyPombohis employees committed sexual assault and he and his wife covered it up
I just think the LTT screwdriver should have a flat side or something to keep it from rolling off the table. Very good review as always from PF!
Thank you for sharing!
It’s subtly three sided. If it’s like the full size one it’ll stay put unless placed on a obviously angled surface.
Honestly, the ltt stubby screwdriver held up better than I expected. I've been using the regular one since it launched, though mostly for my pc so not really in a very trying environment. Happy to see that their efforts have payed off in a competitive product
Thanks for the feedback.
@@ProjectFarm Thanks for the feedback.
The biggest question would be, would the price of the Milwaukee justify it over the higher priced ones?
yeah but that one low back drag rating sort of defeats the purpose on a ratcheting screw driver. It is good locked though so I still might try it out. I don't have a ratchet screwdriver or a stubby. I use the new Klein 14 in one for most things these days.
The first test may have been a bit skewed due to the longer length of the screwdriver and the tendency for your hand to fall away from the center as can be seen in the video. On your next ratchet swing test, you may want to use a plate with a hole in it as a secondary center point to eliminate more human error. Great video as usual otherwise!
lol
Man.. Love your testing methodologies !
So practical So awesome :)
Thanks so much!
Insane that a UA-cam tech channel can design a better screwdriver than many established huge tool companies!
Thanks for the feedback.